What's the most petty/pointless/pedantic hill you're willing to die on?
For me, it may be that the toilet paper roll needs to have the open end away from the wall. I don't want to reach under the roll to take a piece! That's ludicrous!
That or my recent addiction to correcting people when they use "less" when they should use "fewer"
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A simple one I think, I refuse to call twitter by other names.
If it were supposed to be pronounced "jif" it would have been spelled that way, I don't give two fucks what Stephen Wilhite said about it either.
Discord is not a good replacement for support forums. Discord isn’t searchable by search engines.
Historically, if I had an issue with a product and I googled “[product] [issue]” I’d be met with a support forum post, with someone describing the same issue. I could read the thread to find how they resolved it. I don’t actually have to interact with the post at all, and I don’t need to ask the same question again. For most (decent) forums I don’t even need to make an account just to read the post.
Discord throws that all out the window. Now I’m met with a “JoiN OUr dIScoRd SerVEr to GEt suPPorT” page. Nothing is searchable via a search engine. And Discord’s server searchability (even in the app) has always been, at best, absolute dogshit. You already need to know exactly which text thread things were posted in, (because you can’t search the entire server at once), and you need to know exactly what was said, (because there’s no fuzzed search terms).
So 99% of the time, you just end up asking the same question that has already been asked a hundred times in the past, and now you need to wait for someone to respond. It also puts a lot more strain on the support staff, because they’re answering the same question a hundred times instead of just the once in a forum.
And don’t come at me with the “but Discord recently added a support forum feature where people can start threads and save the conversation for later” bullshit. That’s a band-aid, at best. It still isn’t searchable via search engines, so it means the above issues with Discord’s search function still apply, and the forum function is essentially useless as support forums.
Lastly, why the fuck should I be forced to join another server just to get support? What if I don’t have a discord account? What if I live in a region that Discord doesn’t support? What if I just plain don’t want to clog up my server sidebar with dozens of servers that I have only visited once? What if I just really hate the fact that your server has been configured to push notifications for every single message by default? What if I just fucking want to google my issue, and get an answer without any further effort?
"white chocolate" doesn't exist. It's just sugar and a little bit of cocoa butter. It's edible wax. It's not chocolate and it doesn't belong in any assortment of sweets, ever. Cocoa butter is skin moisturizer and that's it.
It provably does exist. And it's delicious. I could go to the supermarket and buy some right now. Except I'm fat and trying to lose weight.
It does exist in the way that chocolate ‘solids’ exist as an element of chocolate. A typical chocolate bar consists of both chocolate solids and cocoa butter. It’s still an element of what you’re eating,
So just cuz you eat ‘chocolate’ because you think you only favor the solids, you’re still eating the butter too in what makes chocolate. It’s like drinking milk products and then getting pedantic over people who use butter as a food even though milk contains some the same elements.
But again this is about stupid hills to die on. And you picked an intolerant and ignorant stance so I guess you technically win in this particular topic.
TIL I like eating wax
Have you tried ruby chocolate yet? I'm guessing you won't be impressed.
I'm allergic to chocolate solids but can eat cocoa butter. So, in a society that is unreasonably obsessed with chocolate, it is nice that there is occasionally a "white chocolate" option on things that for some reason come in 15 flavors of chocolate and little else.
I'm fine with changing the name for it, but you sir can fuck right off if you want me to stop eating it instead of your "real" chocolate
You have my sword.
And my bow.
And my axe!
Oh crap, I zoned out. What are we doing?
The invocation is complete.
I would argue it’s actually congealed demon jizz but it’s definitely not fucking chocolate.
I agree with your feeling for the most part. White chocolate is not chocolate and does not belong in chocolate assortments or in the lofty company of actual chocolate. It's a byproduct of chocolate making more than a chocolate itself. That being said, candy and sweets that are made with cocoa butter can be nice. I'm just not going to eat it when I want chocolate.
The most delicious edible wax I've ever had.
Psycholinguisitics understands this effect. The "wrong" word is increasing cognitive load and slowing down the listener's comprehension. The exact same thing happens when pronoun use is unclear and a person has to parse the most likely referent from context.
Language, especially English, is not computer code but leveraging the existing "libraries" of meaning and declaring variables carefully is usually very useful.
I wish we had a dialect or subset of English that was intended to be more like computer code, and would be used for precisely specifying things. I have no idea how we'd do such a thing, and it'd never be adopted (and probably it's been tried!). But trying to write English in a way that can't be misinterpreted can be a real chore.
This does exist in professional disciplines as jargon. I work in Orthopaedics and we do not say the “over here, inside part of my knee in the front. “. We say, “inferior, medial pole of the patella”
That's true and a great example of what my industry needs.
To make an analogy, in the software industry we call 7 different knee-like things "knees". Not to be confused with the product, Knee, which is also knee-like, but due to its name either pollutes the search results for other knees OR can literally not be searched, and is only a very specific case of knee anyway!
Relevant XKCD
We do have that; it's called "legalese."
On a tenuously-related note, I really wish politicians would use Git (or at least some form of real version control) instead of relying on redlined drafts in Word.
I completely agree that Git has some great use cases outside software, and I like the one you suggested. If git is a bidet, random untracked edits (by anyone with access!) to documents are the TP we should have left behind as a society by now.
git is the bidet of information.
Natural human languages always have ambiguity. There are plenty of conlangs (constructed languages) specifically designed to avoid ambiguity though if you wanted to use one of those.
If such a version of English were ever made, it would immediately gain ambiguity as soon as people began speaking it fluently (and same for the conlang if a community of speakers began using it fluently as well).
Yeah that's fair, and it was clear to me from the jump that it's an unrealistic desire.
I think "legalese" might be close to what you're describing. It can still be ambiguous, but it seems to be our best attempt at avoiding that. Some forms of technical writing may also meet your definition.
I do plenty of technical writing just documenting software I write, and that's definitely what has me pining for something a little more prescriptive. Even just reordering some words can suggest different meanings and it's very difficult to step outside my own understanding of what I'm writing about to see it with "fresh eyes", how someone else may interpret it.
I have to acknowledge that legalese does meet the criteria! Someone else mentioned that too. It feels very far off from what I had in mind though. Maybe just because I don't speak it fluently!
I use this example to introduce formal and functional approaches to topics in the social sciences. Any argument you try to make within the debate ends up including a variant of “…because sandwiches [abstraction about what formally defines a sandwich]”, which itself presumes that the “right” way to carve up the world is in categories of form. You could also conceive of sandwiches functionally, where something isn’t a sandwich if we (some cultural or linguistic group) just don’t think of them that way.
From a functional view, the very fact the debate exists at all means hot dogs aren’t sandwiches, cereal isn’t soup, pop tarts aren’t ravioli, etc.
Then I make them think about it in contexts like language, Durkheim, and policy making and watch their little minds explode.
My reasoning is that a hotdog is a sausage. When you say you want a sandwich, you don't say "pass me a ham" you say "pass me a ham sandwich." When ordering a named sandwich, "I'll have a Ruben" it's widely understood that a Ruben is a sandwich so the modifier is already packaged in the name. A sandwich has "Sandwich" as a defining modifier.
When you ask for a hotdog you don't say, "give me a hotdog sandwich" you say, "give me a hotdog." The same situation works with bratwurst, you don't order a brat sandwich. To further reinforce this, if you're in the south and central US and order a Hotlink it comes on it's own or in a hotdog bun but if you order a "hotlink sandwich" you get two hotlinks cut length wise and placed on a hamburger bun or bread.
A sausage can have a bun as a condiment and still be just a sausage. A sandwich can have sausage, but is still refered to as a sandwich. So a hotdog is a sausage served with bread, not a sandwich.
Are pepperoni and salami sausages?
It doesn't change your sandwich example since they still fit if they are sausages, but sausage is another example of a name that is consistent except for all the times it isn't.
Yes.
It does unless you're putting an entire pepperoni or salami in one piece on your bread and still call it a sandwich. I would call bread with a number of thin hotdog-slices still a sandwich, too.
Nobody calls papperoni sausage when it is on pizza though. That is consistent with your example that a sausage is generally called a sausage only if it has not been sliced.
Except for summer sausage.
Honestly the biggest takeway from the whole discussion is that what we call food is completely arbitrary and just people going along with what the most vocal people are saying. Which is true about any informal communication.
Maybe this is a language thing, but on Dutch we very much call slices sausage “sausage” (well “worst” but that means “sausage” in Dutch). So I'm used to salami on pizza being gesneden worst / sliced sausage.
Uh
Hot dog is obviously a taco
If you go to France and order a taco, you're in for an unpleasant surprise.
Those abominations are not tacos and as a native Texan that's my hill to die on.
I suppose you feel the same way on the "soup is cereal" too?
I'd like to argue the fruit/vegetables dilemma is just arbitrary nonsense. All fruits come from vegetation, they're as much vegetable as the stim, leaves, or flowers. The only reason we separate them is because some idiot got too carried away with taxonamy.
The correct definition of vegetable is "a part of a plant that kids won't eat"
And "almond milk is almond juice"
There’s no such thing as almond milk. You know how I know ? Because there’s no almond tiddies.
With apologies to Lewis Black.
I use a similar example.
If I went to a restaurant and ordered a 3 meat sandwich, and they gave me a hotdog, I'd be fucking pissed. Likewise if I ordered a hotdog and they gave me a taco with solidified beef and relish, I'd be confused, and concerned that I got somebody else's weird special taco order.
Categories aren't limited only to the forms and functions, but expectations. You can redefine or consolidate terms all you like but all you're doing is causing confusion. If that's what people are after then good troll I guess.
If you think of sandwich as a verb, then any food that is "sandwiched" can be a sandwich. Hamburgers, hoagies, hotdogs, tacos, quesadillas, etc. However, by convention, when there is a more common, dedicated word for foodstuff you should use that instead. Tacos are sandwiches but it is weird to call them that when we can just call them tacos.
Umm acktually a tomato is a fruit and strawberries aren’t berries. 🤓
But if, instead of a hot dog, there are sliced deli meats on the table and you ask me to pass the sandwich, I'm still going to pause and be confused because component parts are never the final product. I'm not sure what this proves.
https://www.history.com/news/sandwich-inventor-john-montagu-earl-of-sandwich
I have a different issue.
A hot dog is a Frankfurt sausage or frankfurter in the United States. Frankfurters were notorious in the sausage scene for having the Frankfurt bend. You've probably seen this bend on fancier sausages like Louisiana Hot Links, or Chicken Pineapple. But US hot dogs, whether Ball Park or Oscar Meyer or whatever are these straight things.
Hot dogs are no longer hot dogs.
shit
Is that the right word
I've been using "ontology" when talking about item classification to sound smart
I guess it worked bc no one said "You mean taxonomy, right?" yet. My illusion of pretending I'm not a dumbass to people IRL isn't broken yet I hope.
But hot dogs aren’t sandwiches they’re tacos. It perfectly logical to describe a hot dog as an American taco. If there were no taco items on the table and you asked for a taco I’d think you were being funny, but I’d pass you the hot dog.
Pause long enough to go “that’s different”, then hand you the hot dog, because only one of those items is a taco, even if it’s not commonly called a taco.
So if there were scrambled eggs and caviar on the table. You say pass the eggs and someone without hesitation hands over the caviar are they wrong?
Out of the two, does one look at caviar and truly think "eggs" first? Before eggs ?
They are a tie for me, because I think of them as salty fish eggs.
A sushi place had an egg roll (sushi, not egg rolls) and I thought it was the little fish eggs thing but was actually scrambled egg in a rectangle. My disappointment was immense.
I think it is a great example of expectations.
The hotdog and sandwich thing is silly because tacos are commonly thought of as a Mexican/Hispanic food and hot dogs are a US thing. Like how a chicken wrap and a chicken soft taco are different things even though both can have the same tortilla and chicken, with different vegetables and spices/flavorings. Chicken wraps are often cold, but can be served warm without becoming a taco!
It is a convoluted, arbitrary mess that only works because most people just go with the flow and don't really think about things beyond the surface level.
Tacos are sandwiches...
i don't record or watch vertical videos
The medical symbol of the staff with the snake is only supposed to have 1 (one) snake on it. A staff with 1 snake is the Rod of Asclepius (the son of Apollo and Greek demigod of medicine), a staff with 2 snakes is a Caduceus which is carried by Hermes as a messenger or herald.
Physicians get 1 snake. Couriers and heralds get 2 snakes. Any medical professional or organization that uses 2 snakes is wrong and needs to go study the humanities and classics for a bit.
its "I could not care less" and not "I could care less". This one drives me nuts
It’s concrete, not cement. (Sidewalks for example, or foundations of buildings, etc)
Cement is an ingredient in concrete.
No ticket, no support.
Even if it is for batteries for your wireless keyboard and mouse. Ticket please.
I love telling whiny users who claim they've always had "this" problem that I cannot fix what I do not know is broken. If there's no ticket, then nothing is broken, so quit your whining.
Don't you just love when a user submits a ticket that's "super urgent, this is preventing me from doing my job!" and when you ask how long it's been happening: "Oh, about a month"
My personal favorite is the people that say it is a hair on fire emergency but then you can never get a hold of them to fix the problem.
Submits ticket at 4:50p that it’s an emergency. Ping them at 4:55p for clarification but they’re gone, get pinged at 8:02a with “why isn’t this fixed?”
That’s because nobody helped when their hair was on fire, and now they’re dead.
It wasn’t critical till now and they were hoping it’d fix itself before then. “But sir, these aren’t rechargeable batteries, nor do we have one of our interns go around and check all the batteries every day”
"I have to track the batteries as well as the time spent, and a ticket is the way to do that."
Stupid KPI and accounts not knowing that consumables are not just food.
Bah, undocumented is my modus operandi. Uncredited is unforgivable. Ill absolutely throw together a ticket and add it to the sprint after I've fixed an interesting problem that kept me from working on the boring ticket that's been in my backlog for three sprints. ^_^
To streamers, YouTubers, etc. Your Patreon supporters are called Patrons. Not fucking "Patreons."
Things happen by accident or on purpose. No one over the age of 3 should be using "on accident".
The Oxford comma.
YYYY/MM/DD
I think fewer of people when they misuse words. Their not that hard too tail a part.
The reverse toilet paper thing is useful when you have pet that's like to mess with it.
But either way is ok for me, I guess.
I mean, I couldn't care fewer about it.
CEREAL FIRST, THEN MILK!!! COLD MILK! I DON'T CARE HOW YOUR MOM USED TO FIX IT, THIS IS THE ONLY CORRECT WAY!!!
If something's rate of hype is too fast for my internal meter, I will become immediately skeptical of the trend/show/etc. and not care about it, solely because everyone is caring about it too much and too fast.
"Spectacle Fighter".
In the late aughts, game critic Ben "Yathzee" Croshaw came up with that term to describe games like Bayonetta and Devil May Cry, beat-em-up type games where the point is less "can you get through" and more "how high can you get that combo meter? How COOL can you make yourself look while beating up all these fodder enemies?"
A few years later the industry coalesced on an agreed-upon term for this subgenre -- And called it "Character Action".
Yathzee has just accepted defeat and uses the term everyone uses, he has to, he works in games media.
I refuse. Character Action is a dumb, DUMB term because every action game is a character action game, because there is ACTION and CHARACTERS in all of them.
Whereas "Spectacle Fighter" was perfectly descriptive of just WHAT made those games special. You are FIGHTING, and the objective is to LOOK SPECTACULAR.
Fewer efforts.
Wait, aren't these adjectives meant the be used the other way around or did I woosh the joke?
People should respect the intent of top level domains. e.g. videos at youtu.be should be related to Belgium, and podcasts with a .fm domain should only be podcasts related to the Federated States of Micronesia. Users at lemm.ee should be from Estonia.
using "he/she" to refer to an ambiguous party. just use they for fucks sake
The word "literally" has been forever ruined by people who use it to mean "figuratively." Worse, there is now literally no way to actually convey the original meaning of the word "literally" in a concise, clear way.
You have to say something like, "A is literally 10 times bigger than B...and I mean that ACTUALLY literally." And then people will STILL assume that you're speaking figuratively.
Oxford comma
Pluto is a MOTHER FUCKING PLANET
It has enough mass to deform into a spheroid, it orbits on the major plane of every other planet.
"Clearing their orbit" is utter bullshit, Earth hasn't even cleared its orbit that's why we get the Perseid and The Leonid meteor showers.
Fuck you NDT, I know you didn't start it but you SURE as FUCK popularized it.
And I will literally fistfight any of you who disagree idgaf where or when.
When people say 'I could care less'. I know what they mean, but it is absolutely not what they said. I hate it even more when I hear it in a song or a TV show/movie. That tells me it made its way past a whole slew of writers and editors. I hate it. It's 'I couldn't care less'. COULDN'T!!! Like you care so little that you couldn't care any less.
Stick to the side of the path your country drives on or at least move to that side if someones comming the otherway. I don't get how this isn't common knowledge but it also doesn't matter all that much.
Trucks should be used for working and not hauling groceries. Get a fucking car or a van. Roads are safer with more crash compatibe vehicles that also weigh less. Large trucks should need a special licence to drive/own Driving should also be taught in school
TP roll end goes over, not under.
It's even shown like this in the patent
I live in a high altitude area. It gets very hot. People will say that it's because we're "closer to the sun" as if the ~6000ft/~1800m difference is what matters vs the 93,000,000mi/150,000,000km distance to the sun is affected by something so small.
The difference is the lack of atmosphere to soften the various types of light from the sun.
You've been Affected by something, not Effected, you enimal.
The seventh planet from the sun should be called Caelus not Uranus. All the other planets get named after the Roman equivalent of their respective god, why should that one get special treatment just so people can make puerile jokes.
EDIT: spelling
I don't care what Big Dictionary has to say about it, "literally" does NOT mean "figuratively."
If "literally" means "figuratively," then we literally have no word for "literally."
Dampening
And
Damping
One is literally making things wet.
One is reducing movement or oscillations in something.
And so many people get it wrong, then right, then wrong in the same damn paragraph. My god.
envy and jealousy are supposed to have different meanings, but idiots always use jealous when they mean envious. Annoys the fuck out of me.
If you keep correcting very minor grammatical mistakes when I am speaking, such as “you mean fewer, not less”, I will just stop talking to you entirely
Technically, I wait until you're done speaking to strike
Turns out language is pretty damn flexible. Even if I made an obvious mistake, you meant what I knew.
It's simple though. If you can count it, it's fewer. If not, it's less.
Fewer people. Less noise.
That isn't a grammatic rule. Some guy in the recent past was like "I think it sounds better that way." It was his personal preference.
That's all.
They've always been used interchangeably, for as long as English has been a written language.
People who love to "correct" this are just showing ass to anyone who knows any better haha.
This is a way in which you can discredit any attempt at proposing correct or logical language use. Yes, language changes. Your assertions are still debatable. English is ambiguous enough as is. It's not 'showing ads' to propose some form of consistent or logical usage of words. I'm happy to count that as a petty hill I'm willing to die on.
And since we're being petty, it's either 'grammatical rule', or 'Grammar rule'.
It absolutely is not. You're just talking out of your ass.
The same one that you are, in fact, showing when you demand that the personal preference of some random stranger is the way that everyone has to talk from now on. Ludicrous.
You need some salsa for that chip on your shoulder, or is there another reason why you're getting so personal?
Don't answer. I don't actually care.
I can't stand when people are violently opposed to words because they sound bad somewhere else. Like "moist". If you think I'm being lewd when talking about how much I liked the stupid cake, that's on you and your perverted mind.
I hate hate hate when people try to discredit a theory because "it's a theory not a fact" as if the label of "fact" exists on some kind of science ladder for an idea. "Facts" is a colloquial word like any other, it's not some special category above theories.
Moreover, the most tried and tested theories are facts. Science rarely just disproves an established theory outright. Einstein's General Relatively equations reduces into Newton's Laws of Motion in most situations. Newton's Laws of Motion weren't "wrong", it's just General Relatively is more specific and accurate.
The Scientific Method usually just builds on what already exists without claiming we were all unfactual for working with what we had.
Begging the Question is a logical fallacy, a circular argument. So when a position brings a question to mind that is other than a challenge to its validity, it raises the question.
a couple always means two.
every time anyone says “a couple”, i ask them if they mean two. it’s not pleasant exchange for either of us, but it must be done
Load the goddamn plane by column, window seats to aisle seats, grouped by odd/even seat numbers and make people line up largest seat number to smallest. It takes an extra five minutes before you board the plane and saves you twenty or thirty. It wouldn't even cost you the five if it was the standard.
Horizontal video > vertical video.
It's pronounced niche, not niche, damn it.
If someone offers you something you don't want, simply say no thank you. Don't say "no I don't like that" as if you are 4.
Canon is important to science fiction and comic book adaptations because the rules of those universes operate so wildly different from our own that it is important to put more work in keeping things consistent.
This thread has now accrued over 1100 comments in only 2 days. That makes it the most commented thread in Lemmy history, so far. How did this gain so much traction in such a short time?
If you regularly use 3rd party food delivery services and you're not disabled you're the reason restaurant food quality has gone to shit and I will call you out on it.
You've made it clear you're willing to pay twice as much for a shittier product and these businesses have heard you loud and clear.
Standard wedding photography is set up to make photos look “old”. And it’s so hideous and awful. Most filters used for wedding photography look atrocious.
Let major moments in time look like they were experienced at that time! I’m looking at you, black and white photograph from 2016. Artificially making something old, when at one time they were the present, gives so much incongruity to the experience.
Let something as important as a wedding day look like it’s a product of that time. Not from decades previously.
'Porn' is plural, with 'porno' being the singular.
It better not be touching any part of my food till I'm ready though. I don't want my bun getting soggy from it.
When I'm packing sandwiches I'll keep the tomato and pickle separate for just this reason
Preach it. The pickles just turn to mush from the heat of the sandwich and that ain't right.
Using the wrong pickles, then. Get the deli style thicker versions, and they never go mushy.
A pallet cleanser also implies that you wait to eat your fries/chips after your done with your sandwich. Those things are getting eaten at the same time. Hell, sometimes the fries are going on the sandwich
A proper Reuben features pickles, sauerkraut, corned beef, Swiss cheese and Russian dressing. Most restaurants will replace the pickles and Russian dressing with Thousand Island dressing. Blasphemers.
Life arises from beautiful choas, where in the random but rhythmic dance of chance evolution gives rise to incomprehensible and beautiful complexity made possible by rafts of soul crushing failures buoying the statistical miracle of success.
I am sorry your genes are of bad stock and you've been deprived of enjoying the best of this world.
The use of apostrophe's to denote plural's need's to stop. I will dispatch a syphilitic spidermonkey to fuck your face in your sleep if you do that shit when talking to me.
✅ “What it looks like”
✅ “How it looks”
🚫 “How it looks like”
If you can't scan your groceries at self check out under 3 minutes go to a register when it's busy. You're people are holding the rest of us up. I can scan a full cart faster than some can scan their 10 items.
Remember, kids, "less" is for uncountable things, like liquids, whereas "fewer" is for countable things (like apples).
It's one of many weird rules that English, as a language, has.
The reason I won't get a Tesla has nothing to do with Musk or the car's sketchy reliability.
It has everything to do with the simple fact that I don't like having my basic instruments over in the center console instead of in front of me.
E-sports should be hyphenated, or at the very least stylized as eSports.
Brioche is an inferior burger bun.
"Roguelike" has become overused to the point that it's basically meaningless. Nobody's even played Rogue so it just means "a game that's like other games that are described as roguelike," which is like, any game. There's a set of games where the term originated where it actually made sense, games like Angband, ADOM, Castle of the Winds, etc, that are all closely related where the term makes sense. Cogmind and Pixel Dungeon are more recent examples.
Some of it gets resolved by describing those as "traditional roguelikes," and using other descriptors like "action rougelike" for Hades or "rougelike deckbuilder" for Slay the Spire, but like at that point why not just use "Hadeslike" or "Spirelike" instead of constantly harking back to this 40 year old game?
It's a water heater, not a hot water heater, why would anyone want to heat water that's already hot?
Toilet paper over the top
Don’t use the term impacted when you mean affected. Use impacted only for when physical bodies collide. Never use bastardized variants of impact such as impacts, impactfullness, impactedly, etc.
Don’t use the term concept when you mean idea.
I've heard effect and affect so many times but never this one.
This post really left an impact on my thought process.
I have no concept of why any of the above matters
Oh, so you really hate scientific writing...join the club.
If Shakespeare can change the meaning of words, so can I
A modest comparison to offer, for sure. 🙄
Get bent. Impacted is absolutely acceptable usage to describe a direct or follow on affect from an action or initiative. It's useful precisely because it's an intensifier that conveys not just that there is a detectable change in an indicator, but there is a major change that directly attributable to the manipulated variable.
ETA: I think I have this figured out. That 70s Show use the phrase "get bent" as a synonym for "fuck off". That's not how I learned the meaning in the actual 70s. It was closer in meaning to "get real" and in line with the reported etymology of "go have a drink".
Now, Bob, let's keep it civil here
I thought that was a civil statement. I may be miscalibrated but I thought it was among the mildest of four letter words. I'd be happy to extend my vocabulary in the gentle art of dismissal.
You're right. Funny how language can evolve, like if a phrase from an obscure German sociologist takes on a colloquial meaning not quite in line with its academic definition in the original treatise. 🤣
This is probably the best thread in a while for all of us Lemmings to display our true selves to each other. I love it.
Lol.
I agree but you can be less offensive saying it
You got it Mr. Carlin.
This statement has impacted my grumpiness level this morning.
Like when referring to impacted bowels!
Exactly
Simple words are more effective.
How about if I use “slammed” instead. Seems to be all the rage with headline writers these days.
Slackware is still an important and useful distro.
It doesn't make any assumptions about how you want to use your computer.
Do you want a system that's more stable than Debian or as bleeding edge as Arch?
Do you want a minimal system that runs on an old 486 or a full-featured KDE desktop?
Do you want to compile from source, download tarballs from Github, install .deb packages, .rpm packages or FlatPaks?
Are you running a web server or a laptop?
Slackware don't care. There's no "Don't break Debian", no "Partial upgrades are unsupported", no "Don't mix in other repos", no "Don't edit this file, it will be overwritten". Do whatever the fuck you want, it's your PC.
Games with kernel level anti-cheat.
Black and White Checkered Vans High Tops are not good shoes.
I can't take people who say "your guyses" seriously.
I will always choose to read stupidly spelled product or brand names exactly as written.
The paperclip character from Microsoft Office is called Clippit, not Clippy.
Chicago style pizza is not a style of pizza
People trying to stop an industrial war machine built on religious differences and racism by saying "I'm not voting for ______ until _____ happens" are ineffective idiots too stupid to understand the blatant bullshit they're peddling or the power they have in their vote.
If you want to change a politician's mind, you don't do it by dangling your vote on a carrot.
I’ve always wanted to write a bot that replies to comments that say „I have no words” with a list of random words
Romeo and Juliet is a comedy, not a tragedy.
Two teenagers thinking their first crush is worth literally killing themselves in the dumbest scenario imaginable, I mean come on!
The way too common misuse of the personal pronoun in the objective case. There are legitimate grammatical uses for "me" and the objective case is one of them. Learn it, kids.
I have given up on "steep learning curve". A learning curve is proficiency on the Y axis against time on the X. A steep learning curve indicates something that is learned very quickly. A shallow learning curve is something that takes a long time to master. See Ebbinghaus 1885.
Aluminum
Over cooking beef is sad, I'll make a medium or well steak if you ask me, but it hurts to do so
The miss use of the term "billet". As in "Made from Billet Aluminum to military specs" I have literally sourced metals from all over the world. Ain't no one ever tried to sell me "billet" anything.
A billet is an old term that was used when iron and steels were smelted and then poured in to either kind of a bread loaf mold or a round shape called a bloom. It would then be reheated at a later time and then formed into the final shape. No one would use "billet" or a "bloom" to make anything from it. It would have been "sponge" like and to soft to be useful for anything.
Fecking sales trying to market to ignorant people with a term that doesn't mean what anyone thinks it means.
I don't care what they say, a single space after a period at the end of a sentence is NOT enough. Now get offa my lawn!
It's pronounced Herb not Erb
Commas don't belong in numbers, not as a thousands separator and definitely not as a decimal point.
Also ISO8601 and that dark theme should be the default
We should all be using the 12 numeral system instead of 10 numerals and we should use tau instead of pi.
The little separator bars on the conveyor belts thingies at the cashier in a super market should always be placed for the person behind you. If the bozo in front of me wants to pay for my shit he can go right ahead.
My pedantic hill to die on is the word "jealous". For example:
"I'm going on vacation!" "Ugh, I'm so jealous!"
No, that's envy. Jealousy is a weird way of behaving about things you already have, it's not wishing you had what someone else does! Weirdly, explaining this does not cause people to use the correct word. At this point the battle is probably lost and the meaning has officially shifted.
Crunchy peanut butter shouldn't exist. It's lazy, unfinished peanut butter. At the very least, it should cost less. Why are we paying the same price for a job half finished?
Abolishing the word "automobile" since it mixes Greek and latin.
It's addictive, not addicting.
People should stop purchasing things from Nintendo. The literal worst company I've ever been a fan of.
Businesses keeping bankers hours, especially banks, should stop immediately. How could it possibly be a good idea to only be open during the main times that no one has free time to run errands? Why do I have to use PTO to go to the mechanic, or the doctor? Why can't these places, which require you to visit them in person, be open during the days and hours during the week that people actually have time to visit them in person?
Skydive terminology. Its not a chute, dammit, it’s a canopy or a wing.
The toilet paper roll has to be placed so the tear off sheet faces the shitting person, and not the wall.
Buying products from (known) Chinese companies and buying products manufactured / assembled / resources acquired in China isn't the same and the former should be condemned.
Having general AI on games makes me skip them, I'll be skipping Mecha Break after I saw that NPC that you can literally talk to, just a giant waste of time and a reason to not pay voice actors, I really don't want to go back to the time where you had to type what you wanted to do in an interpreter in King's Field.
The word "utilize".
Stoplights at a junction should be done in phases and not in straight on green and turn on green only if it's clear.
If you have a 4 way junction then each way should green for you to go straight or turn off for a period of time.
Iced tea is just dirty leaf water.
If you’ve ever had a cat sit in front of a toilet paper roll and spin it, you will appreciate having the open end toward the wall so it doesn't fully unravel
Nuts only make sense in something that's already hard, like a cookie. It complements it by going from something hard-ish to another hard-ish texture.
Nuts in cake DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. I hate having to chew something smooth and spongy and suddenly - CRONCH. It's repulsive. 99% of the time it also tastes worse than the cake itself. If you actually want to put nuts on your damn cake, put it on the top so I can slide it off and eat it separately. Thank you.
The phrase "design language" is overstated and pretentious. Anywhere design language is used the word design, by itself works. Design encompasses all the elements that unite an object into a cohesive work.
The phrase design language started with internet articles needing to pad their word count.
(not a designer myself btw)
Isn't design language mainly used to describe general things about how a design should work?
Take Material for example. Material itself is a design language, telling you how far apart certain click targets should be, how big text should be, stuff like that, to make a generally useable UI. It doesn't tell you what shape or what colour your button should be, that's up to the implementation, like Material UI, to decide, which is what I would call the general design.
"Material is a design, telling you how far apart certain click targets should be."
See, the sentence works without "language". Its addition makes it overstated and pretentious.
If you follow a design, you are following the guidelines of how something should look.
But it's a design for designs - it tells you how to design your own UIs, it doesn't dictate what for example a calculator app should look like. You can follow Material Design and still end up with a terrible UI design.
Surely that's enough for some distinction, right?
Sure the sentence works, but now you've lost the distinction between more of an abstract concept and a concrete implementation. It wouldn't be wrong to call both material and mui a design, but in conversation it can just be useful to have a little more distinction between the two without having to go into the details explaining it.
(also damn i should have chosen a better example than material, their naming is pretty confusing)
No, design and design language are two different things. A design language is a set of design rules that define a common look and feel across a product line. There’s usually a manual put together by a designer and their team defining what these commonalities are.
Look up “Apple Snow White design language“ for example.
They’re trying to solve one of the hardest problems in Computer Science: Naming things.
What do you call the framework, or design system—that thing that’s not quite a glossary of the terms—we’re going to use to describe the meta conversations around design?
“Design language” encompasses the colors, spacing, tokens, typography ramps, general rules, and all the other fiddly bits to unify on so that the more interesting parts of design and user experience can happen.
Naming things is hard :/
Oxford comma.
As I've said before, the distinction between countable and uncountable quantities is lost on most people nowadays. In my opinion, the rampant overuse of the word "amount" (instead of "number") is the clearest indicator of this problem.
Two spaces after periods.
That my wife HAS to dust off her feet before getting in bed. Dirty bed? Go fudge yourself!
US newspaper headlines.
"Polilitician lies, world ignores, carries on."
I get the idea is to abbreviate to fit as much in, but it hurts my mind every time! There has to be some retention of language!
Anyway not anyways. I don’t care what the dictionary says. Anyways sounds backwoods, plural, and the “s” is pointless.
Why not just always use fewer. It's really effortfewer to do so.
When saying "Next" in reference to a time "Next" means the soonest occurrence of that. Don't skip one. If today is friday and I say "Next Saturday", that is tomorrow, not 8 days from now.
Funny: Mine is correcting people who try to enforce a prescriptive distinction between “less” and “fewer” when “less” is often used with count nouns. They can be interchangeable, and it’s been this way for hundreds of years.
You can be a duck and a banana at the same time.
The kilometre—with the accent on the ki and the re ending—is a unit of distance. A kilometer—with the accent on the lo and the er ending—would be a device that measures kilos, like perhaps a bathroom scale? centimetre, millimetre, speedometer, altimeter.
I'm actually fairly forgiving about people saying it the wrong way, but when Siri gives me GPS directions, it really grinds my gears. She should know better!
I know this is unpopular. Have had several long winded discussions on this with friends and folks alike. "All religions are cults", doesn't matter the person is alive, dead or imaginary, you're just following a charismatic leader(s).
the right way to play dungeons and dragons
People say "I'm just gonna go try and do it"
No.
Say "I'm just gonna go try to do it."
really stupid, really pointless, I've never corrected anyone on it, but oh, how I want to
TP rolls here always have the open end siding the wall. Otherwise my cats shred them.
I mentioned this in another thread, but IMO people who distinguish ⟨v u⟩ in Latin are as annoying as someone hypothetically replacing English ⟨a⟩ with ⟨æ ɑ ə⟩ depending on the sound.
Maybe Chapultepec in Mexico, or Ayers Rock. Is that technically a hill?
Good lord that less/fewer shit is nit picky and annoying.
People who only work with money are not doing work. They're leeches.
replace 'I purchased ...' with 'I bought ...'. Just something about the p word grates my nerves.. Suspect it's something like using the word 'moist' for some people. probably some forgotten trauma over something I bought.
An entire fandom has been pronouncing "Evangelion" wrong for the past quarter-century.
It's supposed to be pronounced with a hard G, like hair gel.
I can recline my seat. And you can recline yours.
On the toilet paper debate, as far as I can tell it largely has to do with whether people stand up or sit down to wipe. People who stand up want the paper unrolling on the front (because they can't easily reach under the roll), while people who sit down and wipe can go either way.
For my petty hill, "Duck" brand tape is awful and should never be bought. It's just slightly above generic dollar brand tape in quality, and should absolutely never be bought if you have any other options. Go with Scotch or anything else really.
For under it's because they have cats. If it's over cats can pull it down and unroll it entirely.
I'm going to blow your mind - bathroom doors can be closed 🤯
Not when the cat box is in the bathroom.
You want to close up the wet room where you shit? I guess you could leave the fan running 24/7.
Well, it's better than letting the tiny particles of shit float through your home until the smell disperses
Better to trap them in the same humid area so they can form colonies along with the various fungi?
Exactly. Then when you clean your bathroom, you clean up all the shit particles along with whatever else is in there.
I never considered the cat aspect. My grip on reality has been undone.
I sit down to wipe, I have a cat, and I have the toilet paper over. Neither the above comment nor yours explains my situation. Over is just easier to use, and subjectively more aesthetically pleasing.
Having lost a few rolls, many years ago, to a Sheltie puppy with cat-like tendencies, I understand how annoying that would be to live with for the animal's entire lifetime, and I'm willing to make an exception for cat owners. Otherwise it's just making things harder for no good reason.
Or children. It stops them from using 1/2 a roll per visit
I've somehow lost rolls to cats rolling in either direction, so my TP roll is now often found in the cabinet above the toilet.
Roughly 1 in 3 people stand while wiping.
Not the best source, but there was a reddit survey with about 1000 people, and it was roughly 1:2 for standing vs wiping.
Interestingly enough there wasn't much difference between men and women when it came to standing vs sitting.
People stand up to wipe? Doesn't that just smoosh poop between you butt cheeks?
Ductape is the strong, grey stuff; and scotch tape is the white, papery stuff, yes?
Yes, but Duck and Scotch are both brands here. So you can buy Duck brand duct-tape or Scotch brand Duct-tape. They're priced about the same but the Duck brand is much worse than Scotch.
I'm mostly complaining about their clear packaging tapes though, that's where the Duck brand tape is truly awful.
Gaffer's tape or Gorilla brand are the only ones I like
Standardize plurals!
Never playing games online unless it's something like an MMORPG like Dofus or Wakfu where interacting with others is completely optional, or unless with a friend. Rule applies to almost every single game I play besides Krosmaga.
By the time I become somewhat decent at a game, I can already guarantee I'll be consistently paired up with either hackers or people way above my skill grade. Then it'll drain all the fun. Same reason why back in highschool I only ever really played games like CS:GO with my friend and haven't touched them pretty much at all in my free time.
The use of "whenever" in place of "when" has been on the rise and it drives me insane. It makes you sound fucking stupid.
As an English major and history buff, Anti-Stratfordians live in my head rent-free. I hate their stupid, classist arguments that utterly depend on misunderstanding the context of Elizabethan theatre, Shakepeare's story, his work, that of his peers, and how truly well documented he is for a 16th-century commoner.
You Or Ell
Ess Queue Ell
Gee You Eye
The most pointless hill I will die on is the whole regardless, irregardless thing.
They mean the same thing, but irregardless is redundant. My friend uses that word purely because he knows it pisses me off.
There's a Wikipedia link and a hundred others if you bother to search even a little.
Besides, doesn't matter if it's real. It's a story. It's entertainment. And it's just as real as any other opinion here.
Minecraft water buckets dont have infinite mass, they only hold 920 kg worth of water
Using 12 AM or 12 PM is useless. Midnight is both and noon is neither.
The saying "hindsight is 20/20" is stupid. 20/20 is average. As someone with better than 20/20, my hindsight would be worse than normal.
It's "an historical," not "a historical." I don't care if that's outdated, that's proper.
I visit lemmy pretty often so I probably pick a few new ones every week.
I frequent a bakery that sells the Swedish treat called a semla. No one who works there speaks Swedish, so when I ask for ”two semlor” (pl.), they repeat it right back to me ”two semlas”. Sigh. They have a very finite number of foreign language menu items—they can learn the plurals. (Don’t get me wrong, if ”semlas” is the price of semlor I don’t have to make, I am willing to pay it, but boy does it annoy me.)
Jokes on you, I'm polydextris
JRPG
For as much as I see the TP thing online, I’d say I’m in the minority by not caring one bit about which way it faces. But I can see why people care.
Because something that I do care about that’s kinda the same, I will remake the bed if the top sheet is on the wrong way. Seems a lot of people think the nicer side with the good stitching faces up. But no, you want to make a nice sheet samich, with the nice sides facing each other so you are feeling the good side when you’re in the sheets.
My ex could never figure that out and would get mad at me when I said that was wrong. Or she just did that so I made the bed and she never had to.
Not sure what counts as "petty", but there's one that is relevant to a recent discussion I had. If you say something considered "offensive", it is arguably equally so no matter who says it and/or who it is towards. I run a few groups and people have a hard enough time here that it almost seems like it's a matter of a vote now.
Further/Farther... Just because everyone I know knows the difference, but still mixes it up (myself included) and having it pointed out is like a fun game. Maybe not if someone is really laying out their feelings though, then that's tacky.
I hate when people stick there shaft in my mouth before dipping it in peanut butter!!! I mean really! 🤷♂️
Bilbo says he feels like butter spread over too much bread.
Just don’t eat all the bread! If I have too much bread, I freeze it. I don’t butter it with a tragically small amount of butter.
The line should be like “too little butter spread over bread” or something.
Preach brotha.
Funny; probably the opposite of yours.
Facing the toilet paper outward increases the chance that the paper rips with the roll being in such a position that the loose portion of the roll is lying exactly against the roll: I don't want to have to spin the roll to be able to get to the loose bit. Having the loose bit closer to the wall – probably by virtue of being further away from the user – more often results in it being ripped such that a bit is hanging below the roll, making it easier to grab more often. It's, in total, a much more consistently enjoyable user experience.
Also, less being constrained only to countable objects is an artificial and unintuitive definition. It's not like
furthervs.farther, describing two distinct concepts which never overlap.Feweris in reference to counting by individual elements so it wouldn't make sense to apply to things which aren't inherently segmented but it's entirely possibly to measure less of the total of a segmented collection. To say less milk is to take a reduction of the total amount of milk available; this is perfectly feasible with a segmented collection, like cookies. To say less cookies is to take a reduction of the total amount of cookies, something fully measurable and actionable. It is merely thatfeweris applicable to a subset of the things whichlessis applicable.To argue otherwise is to try and create an artificial construction against the intuitive logic inherent in the natural construction.
I had not realized the latter was a hill I'd die on but, boy, will I, now.
assuming we're allowed to get political, the israel/palestine shit, there are people on the left that care way too fucking much, it's the one issue they complain about and if it took them dissolving the entire US government structure and forced us to all starve they would do that, and then be really fucking bored when they realize they have nothing to be mad about anymore.
Little advice from me to you, doesn't matter what your opinion is, or what it's about. You probably care too much about it if you're getting mad on the internet about it. Stop being mad on the internet about it, it quite literally has almost no effect on your life. You're allowed to protest, and be unhappy about things, you're allowed to challenge things in court, that's all fine, but please stop calling people genocidal zionists, and aggressively insulting them, you've created a vile echo chamber not dissimilar to COD and league lobbies, and nobody wants to be compared to a league player.
assuming we're not allowed to talk about politics, all of web dev, the entire field was a mistake and we should fucking start over, the web browser is literally turning into it's own OS that runs on top of an OS. Why? I don't know, great question. Have you ever wanted to run a bare metal operating system, and then run a virtual machine on it, and then run a software container inside that virtual machine, and then launch software inside that container on that virtual machine on that hardware? And then felt like you needed that software to have it's own containerization and entire OS stack running inside of it? Yeah me neither. Why is that a thing we can do?
aside from that, every web app i have ever used is fucking awful, the networking fucking sucks, it's all based on subscribing to the modern DNS and reverse proxy meta, which is fucking annoying for testing. And even more annoying if you don't feel like paying for a fucking domain name if you want to host something privately. It's super fucking restricted and just doesn't work half the time? Like firefox and chrome webrtc don't work together in my experience? It's so insanely bloated that it's a fucking nightmare to troubleshoot anything, and fixing certain problems sucks because the web doesn't fucking want to use http anymore? Like fuck you it's a static HTML page eat shit.
Mumble is quite literally one of my favorite pieces of software i have used, and it's client is broken and has a memory leak. It just fucking works, it has it's own security and cert handling, it runs natively on IPs which means it can also work over proxy networking trivially by just, setting that up separately, like a normal person. Or you could even just, not do that. It's incredibly flexible and does basically everything you want from a voip app. The server is minimal and quick, bots are trivial to deal with. It's all around a great platform.
The phrase "I could care less" makes more sense than "I couldn't care less." They're both idioms and therefore are both considered correct linguistically speaking.
But "I could care less" indicates you would prefer to not have to care about a subject so is expressing that you'd prefer to stop talking about it.
"I couldn't care less" doesn't indicate the current level of caring so you might say "there isn't anything in the world that will make me stop caring about my children; I couldn't care less about my children." Without the idiom those aren't contradictory. It's only because of the idiom there's an assumption the reason the person can't care less is because they don't care at all. But nothing about the phrase indicates this.
The level of concern for something with the phrase "I could care less" is indicated by context and the phrase indicates whatever someone may have assumed about one's concern from the context is actually more than the person actual concern for it.
But people will often say "I couldn't care less" is better than "I could care less". They're wrong and I could care less about their wrong opinions on idioms.
Beans don't belong in chili.
TP goes off the back
Absolute nonsense
Why are your knuckles on your ass
This is no question on inventor's intent.
911 was an inside job
If a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear it does it make a sound?
The answer is unequivocally "NO".
A sound is not a sound until it vibrates the listeners eardrums. Before that it's just a pressure wave. Ergo, if no eardrums are around, there is no sound...
Fruit does not belong on a non dessert Pizza, and unless you are a horticulturalist or other form of plant scientist, a tomato is not a fruit (Do you put tomatoes in fruit salad?)
Fahrenheit is a better measurement for ancient human temperature.