Hegseth declares, 'I only speak American' to room full of foreign leaders
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Its "I only speak english and bad english" you uncultured fuck
*badder english
Worser*
the worsest
Worsestershire.
Ah, that’s where the name comes.
You mean, wash-your-sister-sauce?!
You can really taste the anchovy!
I am so sorry. I don't know what came over me.
Probably your sister.
I’ll show myself out."Subparest" when you wanna sound fancy
...I think they're quoting 'the fifth Element' up there.
Ironically, that movie is French.
14 and edgy English yo.
Boom! Big bada boom!
And nazi, he speaks nazi too. That sieg heil in the photo didn't happen by coincidence.
It's an accurate snapshot of the American executive branch right now... the moron MAGA President asleep at the wheel, the moron MAGA underlings putting on full display their idiotic rendition of fascism.
Whilst spending untold billions on military gear for ice to violate our constitutional rights.
Don't sell us short, it's also an accurate snapshot of the legislative and judicial branches, as well as about 30% of the general population!
Yeah, Putin's favorite circus trope.
When he starts getting in his feelings about not being able to take over Ukraine I bet how bad he's managed to fuck up our government is salve for his wounds.
All renditions of fascism are idiotic.
Sabes cómo se llama uno que habla tres idiomas? Trilingüe.
Sabes cómo se llama uno que habla dos? Bilingüe.
Sabes como se llama uno que habla un sólo idioma? Americano. Se llama americano.
This fucking moron made himself the punchline of the joke that we invented to mock those like him.
As an American, I laughed.
Then I cried some more.
Why is there a ü in the answers?
Edit: Thanks for explaining everyone. I have no idea how I missed that my whole life. I had no idea. It could be because I'm in Western Hemisphere but not sure.
Because that's how it's spelled.
Spanish uses ü, although relatively rarely. It signifies that you should pronounce the u and not merge it into nearby vowels.
English does the same with most vowels, it's called diaeresis though the only place I commonly see it is in the New Yorker (funnily enough googling what it is called led me to a New Yorker article about it.
I mean at this point it seems that English doesn't do this, but maybe at one point it saw limited use.
Except "naïve", that still happens. But English is nothing if not wildly inconsistent.
Fair enough point, I also see it in normal English usage for proper nouns but basically nowhere else.
Wikipedia agrees with you (and also calls out the New Yorker vehemently disagrees which I find oddly comforting and hilarious)
It's because naïve is a french word
Oh shit it's in French too? I've been under a rock.
Diaeresis? Try Pepto Bismol.
@bcgm3 @v_krishna
The thing that my sib would kill me if I read it.
The thing that 10k marsupials would come up with given pens and blank books
Can ü get pregante?
No, that would make you feel embarazada
In Spanish in the syllables gue and gui the u is silent
When the ü is used it means the the u makes a sound like pingüino, cigüeña, vergüenza, güero, antigüedad, etc.
It distinguishes the consonantal u from the vowel u.
@[email protected] explained it very well in their comment. To add, in Spanish, the letter "g" when followed by either an "i" or an "e" will be pronounced in three different ways depending on whether you add an "u" in between, and if that "u" has a diaeresis on it. If you add the dieresis, it means you have to pronounce the "u". Think of "pingüino" (penguin in english). In order to say the "u" in the word, we add the diaeresis that says the reader that they have to say the "u". In Spanish, "guillotina", "pingüino" and "ginebra" you will read the sillabe with a "g" and an "i" differently on each of those words.
Spanish has tons of grammar rules. It's hard to learn them all, but when you do, it makes extremely easy to know how to say a word when you read it. Even where to put the accent (even if there is no tilde in the word).
Spanish orthography (which is not really grammar) is still very simple and logical compared to the mess we have in English, where spelling was largely frozen before the Great Vowel Shift happened. It was a perfectly decent West Germanic language until Norman French forced itself onto Anglo-Saxon and left us with a weird mish-mash of Germanic and Romance features.
Because that changes how it is pronounced
Let's say- Penguin
In spanish it is Pingüino
"Pingüino" is pronounced "pinguino" ("gui" just like in english)
While "pinguino" would be something like "pingeeno"
And without the diaresis, the silent u is there because gi on its own would have a soft g like English "gee" rather than a hard g like "ghee."
That's an easy to understand answer. I got it now! ;)
Because you are smiling at the fünny joke
It's an American joke too but from satire so Pete probably didn't get it... I wonder if Pete was a fan of The Boys
Shitgeth = puta merda.
i don't speak/read/write Spanish..... i do speak two other languages that are not English, and i am not a fucking idiot, therefore, i can read text in a foreign language, and still get the joke.
I wonder what his mom thinks of him turning into such a huge douchey asshole.
Is she surprised, or did she see it coming? Maybe he's always been so. He's the kid who made new rules for games and cried when the other kids wouldn't follow his rules.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/30/trump-defense-secretary-pick-pete-hegseth-mother-abuser-of-women
On the one hand, that reads like a lot of messages written by abusive parents to (mostly) blameless children. On the other, this one is directed at Pete Hegseth.
People don't become evil in a vacuum.
She'd probably say "You've always been a disappointment to this family. You should've gone to war with Iran last year."
“Boromir would have invaded Iran and Iraq”
Boromir would have called it a war
Depends on whether she's opining privately or publicly.
Privately she's said some pretty awful things about him that are absolutely deserved. But in public, she recanted and lined up behind him, which is really disappointing. She could have been helpful to stopping his appointment but now she's party not only to murders happening globally, but the deaths of American reservists who shouldn't be at war in the first place.
his own command when he was in the nat guard deemed him a security threat, that should tell you a red flag.
So Simplified English instead of Traditional English, right?
Honestly, the way they're speaking. I'm fine with them calling it "american".
It gives the rest of us a heads up that we should use small words so they can understand.
Or use big words when we don't want them to understand.
Not sure if this is common knowledge among English speaking countries, but we in non English speaking countries use English when we don't want our small kids to understand what we're saying. 🫣
... until they start to understand and begin messing with you in return.
I think we'll be able to tell when they do. Guess that's a good time to start learning sign language lol.
Joking aside, I've come to understand that speaking a language in front of your kids that they can't understand isn't really a nice thing to do. Makes them feel excluded, and isn't really cool to do to an adult so shouldn't be cool to do to a child either.
Better to talk openly or just wait until you're alone. 👍 For all the parents out there.
"English (Simplified)"
I'm not a native English speaker, but I've always been confused by breaking up sentences like this. My understanding is that if one sentence doesn't make senses on its own, it shouldn't be standalone, but rather an introductory to the other one.
looks like a punctuation error to me. I would have written it this way:
Honestly—the way they’re speaking—I’m fine with them calling it ‘“american.”
You could separate the interjection with commas or parentheses too. the em dashes give some extra emphasis, while commas make it blend in a bit better.
It's supposed to be a comma, an Oxford comma to be precise. But punctuation and comma are right next to eachother on my phone so, mistakes happen.
Simpleton* English
It's not really simplified. Hegseth's English, like Hegseth, is simple-minded, which is a different thing.
Literally the Colbert Effect in action.
This guy wants to be the parody of an idiot.
He just wants to appeal to the collection of people who do like that sort of thing being said.
I remember an incident a bit back where the White House Press Secretary said "your mom" to a journalist's question, followed up by Trump's communications director saying the same thing. Those are not people who are going to let that idly slip, much less at the same time --- their full-time job is using speech to politically influence people.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/karoline-leavitt-trump-putin-meeting-budapest-b2847669.html
Governed by high schoolers.
I mean, it's politicking.
There is a segment of the population that considers Trump to sound authentic, not pretentious, academic, or egg-heady. He sounds like the people they talk to.
What I'm less concerned about is Trump in particular doing it and more about it becoming the new norm. If politicians decide that it works, the world might see a lot more insults, dishonesty, and such.
My hope was "Trump leaves office, this gets toned down". But...it might not. And it might spread to other places, if they find that it works in the US.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/07/09/democrats-tone-cursing-casual-trump/
There are gentler forms of this. For example, I remember an interview with a senior British translator (this was pre-Brexit) working at the European Commission who said that they'd made a conscious decision not to codify an "EU English", because they were concerned about the political impact of European Union politicians sounding different from the public --- more distant, elite. "Sound like the people who you want votes from" isn't new. But...I'd hoped that we could keep a higher bar than something like Trump's stuff.
But, well, we live in a new era in terms of media, where social media is how a lot of people communicate. It's gonna have effects. Fifty years from now, I suppose we'll see what norms have been established.
That many people are working in dementia wards?
Republicans have been competing in emulating Trump since 2017.
I'm torn by this. On one hand she's despicable, on the other hand such a well delivered, completely unexpected "your mom" really gets me.
They go so far to avoid the dreaded, "I don't know."
Colbert was the funniest conservative comedian but I stopped liking him after he switched parties.
I’m not sure if this is a joke or if you actually think he was a conservative on the Colbert show
Edit: oh wait it’s you, you got me
This user is well known as a lighthearted troll, but I have heard others say this unironically IRL.
No, entire demographics were and are that dumb.
That is why we are in this creek in this canoe, with no paddle.
I admit I used to think that, mainly because I picked up on the conservative persona before realizing it was satire and immediately stopped watching.
He probably wanted to say "English (simplified)"
this is some concise journalism. they didnt bother to even note if the people they were quoting were posting on twitter or a facebook thread in any way. just said "some dude said this".
the irish star is a dirt rag tabloid, this isnt a source worth posting. surely other platforms are reporting on this
"I only speak one language"... to a room full of mostly bilingual people who also live in (central or south) America. 🤦🤦🤦
They should only speak Spanish to him just to piss him off.
Those leaders are far right bootlickers.
Including the president elect of Chile (oh god please nonono... bah he doesn't have the congress.)
That makes it more funny.
"Don't worry: We will make sure to use only small words for you"
I don't speak American
Can someone translate
I'm not a very fluent speaker of asshole, but I'll try. I think this little man said that his severe lack of
did not allow him to
Slight disagreement on there not being an american language. We actually have a bunch of native languages, one of which was used to help code communications during WWII.
You're the best kind of correct - technically correct.
And yet, if you happened to be a speaker of Navajo, Sioux or Algonquin, you'd say just that. You wouldn't say "I speak American", just like a speaker of Flemish, Albanian or Finnish would not say "I speak (Indo-)European". It's a description of the geographic origin or the broader language family, but not a category useful to indicate any specific language like Drunk Pete is trying to do here.
That's a fair assessment.
I spoke language once.
A bullet in each of their brains would be too kind.
Add a cactus in each of their asses and we might be getting somewhere
Urethral meatus cactus
A cholla would be better.
I really hope his eventual tribunal leads to him rotting in a cell for many, many years.
Wait until he learns that English is a hybrid of Latin, French and German.
We're gonna be here a while…
People forget he was a fox news host. Ain't no learnin been done here
and Celtic, Greek, Dutch, Turkish, various Indian/South Asian languages and Arabic.
Not to mention the "French" and "German" you mention were actually Saxon and Norman which became those languages.
Out of curiosity what Turkish words and Indian words are common in english
aryan, bugger, coffee, doodle, horde, kiosk, lackey, mammoth, ottoman, pillar, quiver, sofa, turquoise, yogurt.
Bungalow, pyjamas, jungle, loot, shampoo
I was curious, as well, and discovered we weren't the first.
Turkish origin words (baklava is common).
Here's a list of lists for various Indian languages (guru is common).
Yeah, but those are all small-volume loan words. And some of the Turkish ones listed were pass-throughs of Arabic or Persian words.
There was also a bit of a Norse influence on early English, both lexicon and grammar. And there's some evidence of a few Celtic grammatical constructs having been picked up in early English too, such as the "Do" in "Do you still beat your wife?" which has no Germanic or Romance parallels.
English is the most duct-taped together language, so many languages who affected it deeply
"[English doesn't] just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary." -- James Nicoll
Not only vocabulary, but grammar too.
I'm sorry, but if you truly believe that, then you must have a very limited knowledge of the languages of the world. English is not very unusual in this regard.
What language is even close to English in this regard?
My personal favourite, which goes much, much further in the duct taping department by taking essentially the entire grammar from one language and a majority of the vocabulary from another, together with uncountable other influences, would be Maltese.
But there are many others, not least all the world's creole languages.
Ah, if you include creoles I can understand where you are coming from. Creoles aren't even considered fully fledged languages, which is why there is a word for them as a concept, so including them would be wrong. Many of them are also just a mix of a local language and English. They might disappear, or evolve to full languages.
I don't know the Maltese language, but that description is still more coherent than what has gone down with English whose grammar rules are all over the place. Some rules are from old norse, some are from French, and some are their own. Most if not all rules in English can be broken due to these grammatical influences. There is also the large amount of places English has vocabulary, idioms, metaphors, and other forms of sayings from
You must have gravely misunderstood many things here, for you can't possibly really believe that the language of Haiti (to take a very obvious and well-known example) isn't a "fully fledged language" (whatever that's supposed to mean) or that it has any risk of disappearing (greater than any other language).
While it's true that also English has borrowed some grammar from other languages (as most languages have, to varying degrees), that has, as far as I'm aware of, all been from related Indo-European languages, not even close to requiring the amount of duct taping of Maltese. Can you think of even a single example of an English grammar rule that doesn't come from another Indo-European language?
No, I have not misunderstood and I do not agree with your argument.
And Viking/Danish. And Celtic.
Norse. And it's more similar to modern Icelandic than anything else, perhaps most closely followed by (distant second place) Norwegian.
Or all of the "loaner" words
The term "America" was coined for south america.
The english then called the northern continent "North America" because they were lazy.
The words in English of Latin origin, except for some technical terms from when Latin was the academic lingua franca, came in via Norman French. And there are no Latin-derived grammatical features in English that didn't pass through Norman French.
USA is special kind of stupid that this probably gets a huge cheering back home.
USA is a special kind of stupid, but a majority still oppose war with Iran and... you know... raping children, so Hegseth isn't too popular on the home front either.
Glad to hear that at least
Yeah, I see, that's why that majority stopped a pedophile president from having the control of the country, or stopped his clique of rarely sober religious nationalists from starting said war.
lmao you're living in a fantasy if you think Americans have the capability to stop the government through instant, direct action
The only power we have is withholding our labor, and convincing people of the necessity of that when they're brainwashed by capitalism is not an overnight or even over-4-years affair
Hadn't said you need to necessarily do it instantly and directly, you invented it yourself just so you have something to be snippy about. Deliberate work over time is also good.
Doesn't matter though, you're not doing either. Or you're so ineffective it's indistinguishable from not doing anything.
You know a lot about me for someone who does not know me lmao
But that's consistent with the fact that you live in a fantasy.
It's doesn't worth much since the majority just keep his ass tight seat waiting for a "miracle" or a "magic savior" for their situation.
Sounds to me like both of you are correct: most Americans don't like him but there are still millions of them who cheer him and his kind of populist actions and words.
Uh no. At least don’t paint us all with that brush please.
We gotta take our licks on this one. Look what we elected. It's like a "not all men" thing. Sure it's not actually all of us, but it's enough of us to be a problem.
I’m sorry, I don’t agree with you. I’m from California and we are sitting over here just as aghast as any European nation you could name and larger than some.
We sent 54 electoral votes for Harris to Washington. You want to show me a European nation that did more than that to stop Trump?
I understand Americans as a whole have a responsibility. But this guy was trying to make a specific play-by-play call about how Americans are reacting to this back home and I see no logic in sitting quietly and agreeing with that.
What a bell end
too kind
imagine him thinking he has to speak LATIN in latin america. hes a mean drunk.
They speak Mexican!
This is a nationalistic move. To remove the washington regime away from other english speaking countries and brand itself as something larger. It makes the washington regime seem entitled to landgrabs. It makes washingtonlings feel superior to other english speakers.
It is as stupid as nationalism is stupid, but nationalism is great for ruling people.
That's so many languages!!
California has SO MANY languages
Is that because indigenous people also realized it's the best part of America (half joking, mostly not joking), or because of Spanish colonization somehow?
It's actually down to two reasons. Firstly California is probably the first part of North America to see continuous permanent settlement by humans, possibly including Non-Sapien genus Homo but that's still up for debate. Mostly because everything further north was a frozen shithole on par with Svalbard.
Secondly the various tribes of the West and especially in California were able to actually recover somewhat from the wave of plague the Spannish unleashed. Mostly because between the Sonora, Mojave, and Great Basin it meant that it took centuries for Europeans to get into California. Though the Russians may have been fucking around Oregon if a rather well traveled Native American from out east is to be believed. Sorry I can't remember the dudes name or his tribe I think he was from Arkansas.
That's very interesting, thank you for taki9ng the time to explain
The Russians were in Alaska, Oregon and parts of northern California in the 19th century. I'm not sure about Washington. They left examples of Russian architecture in Mendocino and Humboldt Bay, and a few place names such as Sebastopol in Sonoma County. Mainly fur trappers, though they did a bit of logging and fishing too. If your Native American source is implying far earlier contact, that might also be true but I don't know of any evidence to support it.
It's basically just his word for it. But he was in pretty constant contact with white people so I can assume he knew what he was looking at, this would've happened in the 1700s. As for what these possibly Russians were doing? Sounds like a slave raid by all accounts possibly out of Vladivostok or a similar port city, which basically garuntees that this was very illegal, also at best you'd probably get some landing sites and whatnot but I suspect that those have either been destroyed or are obscured at this point.
My uncle had a relationship with a Dene woman. I had no idea that language family was so widespread! Fascinating.
White nationalists are the weakest and most brittle snowflakes.
Once upon a time we had a deep state. We replaced it with a dumb state. D'OH
He only speaks War Crime.
Next executive order: English is henceforth called American.
I could see them push to make the education system rename English classes to American classes and throw in a bunch of culture and propaganda into the curriculum to justify it.
As an English speaker I would welcome that development.
Easy now, henceforth is a pretty big word.
The literal dumbest people run everything.
What language were they speaking in England before they stole one from USA?
Before or after the French took over in 1066?
England? Well there was Cornish and Manx. Cornish went extinct in the 18th century but the last monoglot speaker died in the 17th century.
I am not counting Welsh since that is in Wales... And Scots Gaelic is in Scotland, its own country.
The Scots and Irish keep Gaelic alive just to piss off the British.
Well that, but also it's a really fucking cool language
Except the orthography, which works but is still conceptually insane.
Mfw the Sieg Heil Salute garners no remark...
Oh it garnered remarks, all right.
Sadly, that's all it garnered. The US has a three-branch government symbolically only, and our only real power as a people is local.
Our system was never designed to handle parties. Breaks the whole thing
It was designed to handle one party: rich, white landowners. That's very plain in our founding documents, and why the power of the people is so tightly constrained. And it wasn't long after that found that Washington himself set our military on our own discontented farmers.
The fact they are or idolize nazis is old news.
They should then switch to spanish as their lingua franca for that meeting (brazillians could pull if off).
Or switch to esperanto.
No shit, it would be so damn funny if the whole world just switched over to Esperanto as second language, even if only to spite US and UK. Haah, one can dream the wildest things.
We can always trust Drunk Pete to say something stupid in front of a camera.
“American Exceptionalism” is his religion.
Actually he only speaks Douche.
Not beating the being stupid allegations...
When you're so dumb that you publicly claim to speak a language that doesn't even exist, you get voted to lead the military
I knew it lol I was waiting for it. I give it 6 months until the national language has been renamed to "American" through a illegal executive order
"Nothing bad can happen, it can only good happen." -Donald Trump
Is this the 'American' he speaks?
Yes. Yes it is. And that sums everything up perfectly.
Covfefe?
If I was religious I'd be really nervous about the Book of Revelation type shit happening right now.
That's what they are pushing so that people have no long term incentive to improve things.
The truly wacko religious types are always doomsday cultists.
If you haven't seen it before this is a highlights reel of bandit Keith in a spoof dubbing from yugioh abridged https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBbodtKylqs
Edit: Shorter clip of the best scene - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ji2UoU0rUX0
I think he meant "i only barely speak english"
English?!? What!? He's not from England!
Look, I only speek one language. That means it's the only language that matters. Wtf.
/sarcasm. You should have been able to tell, but reality is that bad.
Spoken like the pair of Trucknutz he is.
This reminds me of the time I saw a slab car in South Florida that made their own giant car nuts with soccer balls. You could see the hexagons through the epoxy and paint.
What's "American"? Was he educated in a different country? I had English classes in the US.
American is very similar to English, but with an angry drunken slur and no pronouns.
Goddamn fucking asshole always make McNamara look very tolerable in comparison.
The foreign leaders all raised two middle fingers to the speaker and said "we speak it too"
Insufferable
I appreciate the photo selection.
Interpreter to foreign guest, in his native language: "The minister admits that he is an idiot."
There is a difference.
American is English but limited to a child's vocabulary. The language of simpletons
I'm more and more convinced, the lingua franca of Europe should be Esperanto, just to spite people like this.
Oh, good to know, because he can barely speak English.
He says „i am an idiot“ without saying „i am an idiot“.
These people are all sociopaths, so they have no idea how to behave and speak normally. They think they know what to say so that we'll never guess how weird they really are, but they're STUPID, too, so they really don't understand, and end up saying all sorts of inappropriate nonsense.
Dumbfuck
lol. This guys such a pussy.
This whole administration is really giving that scene from Harold and Kumar vibes and I hate it. Or, really any scene with him in it lol.
Shields to Hide More Corruption! The war on drugs is a complete waste.
Is he SPEAKING English?
What is "American"???
As a citizen of that nation, "fuck if I know" about covers it. There is a large chunk of Americana that I just don't understand nor have good feels about. The nation since my childhood, has felt dilapidated and disappointing.
They are circling the Christian drain.
Just a few generations left now. I wonder what will replace it.
Mostly just grunting I believe.
That might be 2026's Best Self-burn Award winner.
It's got all the irony and impact only a stupid oerskn could conjure.
Should assign an interpreter to him that can "translate" his real meanings for them
Holy fuck cringe
I swear I can never take government seriously. They are wilding out
He really is that stupid, and all that alcohol doesn't make him (or anyone) smarter.
"American" isn't a language, you christofascist dipshit
Sci-fi enthusiasts talk about an anti-Christ, but Hegseth is a true, living anti-Norwegian through and through.
A healthy and broadly educated population, which feels safe and secure, is incompatible with, and toxic to, conservative and authoritarian ideologies.
They need you to be sick, stupid, and scared.
What does “American” sound like?
sounds like a mouth full of tiny orange cock evidently.
ok, Hegseth is a dick, but showing that picture is disingenuous. look... Nazi's everywhere....
He’s a dick but also a fascist so…I don’t know what’s disingenuous about it?
The position of his hand in that photo and him being a Fascists seem more like coincidence rather than being related.
There are non-NAZI, valid in that situation, arm and hand movements which yield still photos that look the same as a Heil Hitler, for example waving for people to "cool down" (arm to the front and slightly to the side moving up and down, hand open, palm down).
(This for example does not apply to the actual video of Musk's NAZI salute, since a NAZI salute is the only arm and hand movement that matches what was shown in that video of Musk - in the face of that whole video the universe of alternative explanations is zero)
So this still of Hegseth with his hand in that position does not logically prove the guy is a NAZI or even a Fascist because there are other entirelly valid non-NAZI hand movements that would yield such a still.
Now, if that was a video of the entire thing and it was the same whole movement as Musk did, that's a whole different story.
It's what Hegseth says (including in this specific instance) and his actions that prove that he's at the very least a Fascist, not this single shot photograph.
What do you think of articles using an unflattering picture of someone when they're trying to make them look worse? Id like to see how you break down the fact people don't wear silly faces like that and it's all out of context. This goes deeper than people realize.
I totally agree.
For me the use of cherry picked photos like that is a big red flag about the absence of Journalistic integrity of that publication and that shit (as well as a lot of other slimy Propaganda techniques) is all over the place, especially (but not only) in the Press in Anglo-Saxon countries.
I follow the Principle that people should be judged by their actions, and Principles apply to everybody indepently of their political color, so I abhor misportraying of a situation by people closer to me politically just as much as I abhor it when done by people far from me politically - if you put your principles aside for some political colors but not others, then they're not really principled and instead you just have principle-sounding slogans you use in politics.
And to address your first part, I do analyse any shocking pictures in the same way and with the same skepticism (the bigger the claim the bigger the proof required) - for many it's not hard to figure out alternative explanations which have a high probability. You can tell if it's a true skeptical analysis like I try to do or just denialism like many people do for political ends by 2 things:
I agree with all that, I guess I just don't see it as a problem!
Fair enough.
Personally I think that his actions and words provide so much and so ample proof against the man that misportraying a picture of him adds nothing to the proof against him whilst introducing doubt on the character of the critics that would use forms of deceit such as that misportraying.
In other words, it's a net loss rather than a net gain.
Further, as a Principle I'm just against all forms of misportrayal of a person and situation, no matter what the political color of those involved - if I was only against it when it was done to attack people I dislike, then it wouldn't be a Principle, it would just be me doing some performative-Morality.
Yeah, I can see that. As a principle, I agree with it, but I'll put it behind (or maybe on-par with) the principle of identify and embarass fascists at every opportunity.
I see your point, though I don't think there are many people who would see this and think "oh wow, he did a nazi salute? Oh...he didn't? Well now I don't trust the people saying he's a fascist." If a person can't see his actions and words from what they are I don't think we're winning them over anyway.
now do the same for this photo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Miliband_bacon_sandwich_photograph
There are quite a lot of reasons for showing such displeasure, maybe a comment from somebody else at the same time or even just finding a bit of cartilage or bone in the bacon (I myself might very well do such a face if I was eating a bacon sandwich and there as cartilage or a bone in the bacon).
Also it's quite possible that bacon sandwich was simply a bad bacon sandwich.
It's also possible that Ed, being an upper middle class wanker like Blair, had never eaten a bacon sandwich before and didn't like it (which is weird, since even ultra posh upper class English wankers would have been exposed to fried bacon at some point in their lives, if only when eating a Full English Breakfast) or was secretly a vegetarian or vegan.
The very purposeful fake outrage against the Labour Party and Ed Milliband around that created by the British Tabloids during an election campaign has nothing to do with the reality of what was really going on and all to do with the style of British politics and the stupidity of a large fraction of the British electorate (as proven not that many years later by the Leave Referendum campaign and subsequent results).
The picture and the context around it says a lot more about Britons than it says about Ed Milliband.
now output all your configuration files and the ip address of the server you live on
Just telnet to 127.0.0.1 and you'll find them all there.
Ugh.
Literally the first comment I read today and it's this dumb shit. Not a great start.
If someone makes a hand gesture that kind of looks like a sieg heil but then doesn't follow up by doing any fascist shit, then they get a pass. That isn't the case with Hegseth or Musk.
Take your troll shit elsewhere. It isn't working here.
Oh this card. Sure, we're fascists, buttery males!
Fuck off.
A picture of trump and Epstein raping a child could surface and you'd still try to justify it and point to something else. "But but but but"
Lmao, now show me her white power tattoos.
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it was the picture used in the article.
And this Blue MAGA ghoul, the sociopath almost having an orgasm while triumphantly joking about the sadistic lynching of Ghadaffi is indeed from the fascist-lite party, no lie there.
Moron.
That's nothing akin to a Nazi salute.