The Lemmy userbase isn't much better than that of Reddit.
A little maybe, but not much.
I've seen people say they left reddit to join Lemmy because of the toxic users. To each their own, but I personally think Lemmings aren't much better. Some people over here can't understand that sensitive questions can be asked without bad intent. People are way too defensive about their opinions.
It is disappointing, but it's the better option.
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The Lemmy userbase is human, which is more than I can say of Reddit's.
The bots are showing up heavy in the last few days. It annoys me greatly since it dilutes the quality posts in my feed that generate discussion. It's a bunch of shitty memes and cartoons and it's awful.
Good thing we can just block it and get our feed back.
Yeah I have noticed a ton of posting here that reads like it's an edgelording 12 year old, that is either really stupid and then attacks anyone who replies to their stupid post with facts and reasonable replies. Often with a extremist/insane take or a really inane and stupid one.
That wasn't happening in '25 that I really noticed.
Always has been.jpg
I had to block a bunch of meme communities when I first joined to make lemmy usable for me.
No offence to anyone who enjoys memes or the below, just I prefer lemmy with less lols
HTH
Blocked Communities
I guess I'll save this post so I can go through the list and block the Ines I don't want. Looks like I got a few.
lemmy world that you are on is full of influence agents, many of which are bots/chatbots, I noticed them pumping up support for the Iran war.
There's a dozen or so that post constant propaganda against countries that don't conform to US interests. Their approach is so similar that it's hard to believe there isn't something that links the accounts.
This type of behaviour is discoverable. There are probably much more subtle campaigns ongoing too. I'm undecided as to whether it is just the efforts of some 'centrist' zealots or there are some actual spooks in here.
There's also a certain type of person that just... posts that shit. I'm not saying they're bots or not bots or any damn thing, because there's tons of bot spam anyway, but I think you're underestimating how intensely shit some people's meme game is
I feel like the "hilarious chaos" instance was (is? iirc .world defederated from them so idk if they're still around) like that. They were already starting from behind with such a try-hard name, and then most of their posts were Facebook-level crap. I ran into them a lot browsing all top-hour, and my impression was that the posters were trying but had a... less refined palate than the average Lemmy user.
It's both. The government pays for this type of thing. It's not just me that noticed it either. With chatbots it's never been cheaper to run these either, and apparently they do bother with little old lemmy, although it's nothing like reddit which is owned by them and corporate influence ops.
Yea, I'm grateful for that. But the humans are pretty awful too sometimes.
I just blocked one of those right in this post. Idk if you can see his comment anymore. His username was something like fisting lover.
FYI, when you block someone on the Fediverse you simply stop being able to see their comments and posts. They can still see and interact with anything you post.
Ok. Did you misspell FYI, or is this something new?
Oh you're right I did.
Alr
While reddit does have a not problem there are loads of people, people who LARP being some minority, and people posting thinly veiled fetish content on e.g. AITA. But bots certainly make up a higher percentage over there.
Here we got tankies, blind hate for anything done by america and lack of nuance. But the latter is just common.
snort.
I don't even disagree that that exists, but that was funny.
There's nothing blind about it, the US deserves every bit of hate it gets
Blind.hate.ml
I don't know why one would expect Lemmy to be different when it's entire userbase consists of ex-redditors.
I don't think there's much difference between platforms. Everyone is performing to either get pats on the back or to stirr up something. The moment everyone around you seems nice is when you've entered the echo chamber.
I just want headpats
attaboy
it can be if you're using your block list effectively. There's a bubble of really chill people that have seperated themselves off from all the debate lords and with a platform this small you'll find them pretty easy.
Just block any 3 instances of your choice, 20 of the most active accounts that specifically annoy you, and maybe all the porn comms (it's mid anyway). You'll be left with a feed that's to your liking and nice comment sections
Because people who decide to leave something shitty are predisposed to wanting something better?
I don't know that there's any decisive proof of that. There's no reason people haven't come from other social networks as well.
I accidentally posted a link to some right wing borderline racist article which sounded sensible on first skim reading it. Commentators noted this. I apologized for not reading it carefully or noticing the other associated articles and the other Lemmy users were understanding. Just my experience but I think a nicer atmosphere prevails.
I dont know. Not that Lemmy users are necessarily great all the time, but Reddit has decayed to the point that its barely better than a generic Facebook feed.
Yeah, my feed was pretty awful when I left reddit. Too many reposts.
Lemmy is better on that aspect.
But I feel that it should be possible for me to ask questions I couldn't ask anywhere else without people jumping on me with their accusations
Like what question do people jump on you for on lemmy here?
Personally I don't take that much offense, if someone is rude to me I give it back to them, or ignore them. It's anonymous online communication so you have to expect getting flak.
Well, I asked the question : 'Do you think strict 2 child policy be a thing?' Mind you, I didn't even say it should be. The only reason I asked that is because I wonder if it would become necessary in the future. And some guy accused me of wanting to control women and all that.
I hope you can see where, in the current political climate, questions like "Should 2-child policy be a thing?" "Should transgenders use the gender assigned at birth?" or "Should immigrants be immediately returned to their country of origin?" might seem disingenuous to the populations affected by those very real policy proposals.
Immediately proving their point with incendiary questions that aren't really comparable
You asked if people should be forced to live a certain way and were surprised that you got a vitriolic response??? In this political climate????? Maybe know your audience a little better.
I was online a decade before "Eternal September" started and having to check the "political climate" before making a post wasn't a thing until sometime in the last 8 years or so.
This kind gatekeeping has had horrible consequences for the culture of the internet.
I grew up with lesbian parents in the south in the 90s. Checking the political climate is all I have ever done my entire life, internet or not. I don’t agree that there has ever been a time when that wasn’t a requirement online or offline.
Like for real? Obama’s tan suit happened 12 years ago and you think the Internet has only been politicized for 8? You must have managed to avoid pretty much all social media before Facebook, which is weird because Eternal September happened in the 90s and came from Usenet which has been political since the 80s.
I didn't say the internet wasn't politicized. I said that having to "check the political climate" before making a post, i.e. self censoring, is new(ish). You gonna tell me that you never posted online that having lesbian parents is okay before it became accepted to do so? I'll bet you did and I'll bet you did it more than once.
This idea that posts running counter to the current cultural / political climate shouldn't be made is pure horseshit. Usenet was stuffed to the gills with counter culture of all kinds, it was expected and accepted. Yes there were epic flame wars but that's because people didn't self censor an unpopular opinion because of the "current political climate". I was there.
Online discourse is a pale shadow of what it once was and I put the blame squarely on the rise of this idea that people should self-censor in order to avoid giving offense. Fuck that and fuck people who believe that's how it should be.
Edit: One Usenet if a user really REALLY couldn't stomach what another user was spouting then they put 'em in the kill file. That's what "plonk" meant.
You poor little baby. Maybe you can pay someone for a hug or something
Hey that was a good idea. I swung by your house and got a few hugs from your mom. Thanks!
Religious people were apeshit about china's two child policy. They hated it. I don't doubt you got some flak bringing it up, but it's also an issue of the government telling people what they can and can't do, which may be where more of these people are coming from.
One thing is certain, there is zero chance of it happening in the US anytime soon, because of the religious people.
There's a strong segment of Lemmy, perhaps even a majority, who have absolutely no problem with a government telling people what they can and can't do. The only thing these people disagree on is the details.
Given the decline in birth rates, I don't know why you'd think it'd be necessary tbh.
You should check out one or two talks by Hans Rosling, the Scandinavian statistics prof/king. Very interesting correlations between quality of life/healthcare and family size, and he makes the info digestible for a wide audience.
Also, I would advise you generously block anyone who proves to you that they are not interested in discussing, but only in... let's say shouting.
I know what you mean...
those reposts are by AI bots, or spammers looking to warm up thier accounts. i see alot of people complain on those subs, but it usually fall on deaf ears most of the time, by mods, and certainly admins dont do anything about it, because its more advertisement potential for them. but they are quick to target accounts that arnt benefiting them.
I sometimes go to it on a computer with shitty privacy settings. It's terrible now. There is no quality content and it seems state-owned. After not using it for a while I was shocked by how bad it got since I left.
reddits is dead internet theory come true, mostly run by propaganda bots(russia, israel, and PALINTIR). OF spammers, link/url.ad spammers. FACEBOOK is what reddit will become eventually.
That is certainly not the case for a well-curated personal feed.
My feeling is that if your feed is shitty, you can look in the mirror at the one who curated it.
Reddit has a perverse incentive to keep the user base frothing for engagement
There is no such incentive on Lemmy. We are toxic because we choose to be. All natural, free range, grassroots haters
I think you're missing the point.
People are people everywhere you go. Nowhere is free of people unless you want to be by yourself.
Lemmy and the Fediverse is not about only being around people that are exactly perfect for you to associate with.
It's about not giving your thoughts, your mental energy, and your time to build an empire for someone else to profit off of.
I have often wondered about it. I mean people are people. So why should it be? That you and I should get along so awfully?
Speak for yourself, you paragraph-writing Dingo! /jk
Okay, so we're different colors and we're different creeds and different people have different needs.
It's obvious you hate me though I've done nothing wrong. I've never even met you, so what could I have done?
I can't understand. What makes a man.
the point is lemmy is ours, not some psycho billionaire's.
It depends on the server. But the nice thing is, you can pack up, walk away and move to another instance.
You are not tied to your first choice. And that is better than reddit. Go where you want to be.
Yup. People are people, and the worst of them seem to be very loud about being awful. Any community is going to feel more toxic as it grows, but federation (theoretically) lets you keep your community as small as you like.
That kind of mobility has limitations - I've personally gotten a supposed mainline instance rugpulled with no upfront way of knowing - tons of blocklist (because, y'know) and what few communities seemed worth following, all down the drain.
Federation is supposed to solve that problem but just doesn't: it works inconsistently and with a bunch of arbitrary politicking involved: why's this instance block that one, why doesn't everyone block you-know-which-ones, etc. The idea of a "community" being instance level means that malicious instances have a lot of room to fuck around and make things awkward and unpleasant, as we've seen. It also makes discoverability and searchability doodoo.
Like, it's technically true, it's just not as practical and rose colored as it seems when people want federation to be a general cure-all for Reddit shittiness, instead of the one overhyped random implementation detail it actually is in all this.
Most instances don't block other instances of note though. The biggest decision you'll have to make here realistically is "Do I want to access hexbear and/or lemmygrad" and that's it.
And Dbzer0 in their current block of feddit.org.
It doesn't depend on your server. since lemmy is federated, you're gonna see the same content and people no matter what server you're on (subject to maybe defederation and things like that). There's still a general Lemmy "community" that spans across every instance.
Not if you browse local, that's your server only, right?
Local is just communities from your server. You'll see comments and posts from other servers, just not communities from other servers
ffs, Lemmy's strength is in it's decentralised non corpo design, not that we users are a better quality of human. It went from Usenet, to the centralised shitiness of Reddit back to a decentralised system in Lemmy/Piefed more akin to Usenet
but, I'd also argue just by being here you're a better person.
So far I'm having a lovely experience
It's much calmer
Idk I kinda like it here. Everybody uses linux in this place.
I'm doing my part!
PSA: you can block users. Don't be afraid to do it. There's nothing you can say that will convince flat earthers or similar stupid people.
I blocked myself so if I make any spelling misteaks I can’t see the comment.
*speling
*beef
yup. people need to use block. I swear some people have this thing against it but they have no problem people subscribing to things and only viewing subscrived. Thats like blocking every community your not subscribed to. Its two sides of the same coin.
Haven’t been there meaningfully in years, but when I was there regularly if I logged in and saw I had a bunch of new comments I’d have a mini panic attack. Did I say something clever or something stupid and get eviscerated?
I rarely get the number of comments here that I got there, but when I do get them they’re almost never toxic like the ones I got at reddit were, even when they are critical or disagreeing.
…I do still get a mini panic attack when I see I have a bunch of unread comments though. It’s less intense though as Lemmy seems to be slowly curing me of that reaction.
Same! Seeing replies on Reddit was always a coin flip. Are people happy or angry? Do I even want to click and find out?
Lemmy doesn't dogpile the way Reddit did. I'm not anxious about people disagreeing with me on here, because even if they do, they're more civil about it. They'll bring up points to disagree on, which is fair and adds to discussion. Meanwhile on Reddit, you'll more likely get ad hominem attacks that contribute nothing meaningful and seemingly only serve to make people feel bad for posting/commenting in the first place.
It does. A bunch of us just happen to agree a lot more and the entire place is much smaller, so it doesn't come up as often. It's human psychology, people do this by default. Call me a cynic but there's no place or case on Earth where that doesn't happen in one way or another and it damn sure does here.
The coin flip was the reason I left Reddit more than anything else. I started noticing some irate comments for simple opinion stuff. Then one comment I made got a huge reaction of 'that never happened, you fucking suck, kill yourself,' in a much longer form. I was so flabbergasted that I finally gave up on Reddit in that moment. Twelve years of happily using that site slowly fell apart over the course of a few months.
If there's a dogpile here, it usually just earns the user a -25 score on the comment and many blocks, usually just one or two comments push back, which can spiral out into a chain of dozens of replies, and a ban only if the user keeps being obnoxious or clearly breaks rules.
As an example, look at this political comment I made the other day, the first level replies were of sound quality, then in the second level someone decides to be the grammar police and immediately the nested conversation turns to a squabble that's irrelevant, stupid, and not worth reading. Only the first level replies reach my inbox. My point is that good quality contributions get mostly decent quality comments back (including both praise and constructive criticism), while ragebait and flamebait begets a flame war.
I love it when I have a bunch of notifications, dopamine hit!
There’s always going to be sad people who thrive on messing with others. I don’t think any social platform can avoid this problem, but it’s good that you’re finding a way to moderate your reaction.
The difference is that you can curate the people you associate with. Find an instance whose values represent your own, or run your own, and you can avoid the people who you find the worst. You can't do this in reddit as anyone can join and you have no chance to prevent yourself from interacting with chuds.
I disagree, Karl. Zionists are out of effing control on reddit today, and they pollute threads with denials of whats clearly shown in the news, or else make wild claims without evidence.
You are of course, wle come to your opinion, but what you are saying makes no sense to me.
How do we know you aren't a Zionist?
you can read my comment stream and its pretty obvious.
sounds like something a zionist would say.
I just had a guy here tell me that shooting civilians in Israel was OK, because there are no Israeli civilians.
The anti-semitism here is effing out of control.
Do you count people that served in the IOF and are part of the reserve as civilians? That's the thing most talk about. And again with the anitsemitism 🙄 people have a lot better reasons to hate israelis than "zomg jews"
Nope, it was explicitly every single Israeli. Explicitly stated. A mod has removed the comment now, so I can't link to it - but that kinda proves my point (unless you think I am making up everything).
I do get the impression that lots of people here believe the sentiment in that comment. While being too self aware to actually state it in writing.
No you didn't lol
I mean there are a few of them trying real hard but they get downvoted to oblivion.
The prevailing theory here is violence is good as long as it's down to the 'bad' people and it's wrong if it's done against the 'good' people.
With total ignorance of the fact... this is the same rationale that is causing the genocide in Gaza.
Then people scream about human rights or whatever, and fail to realize that they apply to everyone, not just who they think is good.
"By fighting Nazis you are just as bad are the Nazis, because violent bad"
Yes, you are. Especialy since you want to exterminate anything remotely that looks like a Nazi.
You have no interest in actually defeating nazism or real nazis. You just want an excuse to bash heads
Just like the Nazis do. It's almost as if you, just like the nazis you hate so much, cosplay as a tough guy on the internet to make yourself feel good... you are not a hero fighting evil in the world, you're just another hateful douche bag looking to blame someone for your problems in life.
Why do you talk like such a fucking dork?
Yeah it's called self defense and it's a good thing
Whereas on Lemmy antisemitism is widespread.
Your calling anti zionist stuff "antisemitic" is the real lie here, you just wont admit it because you're a propogandist liar.
Antizionism and antisemitism aren’t the same but one masks as the other all the time.
Cut the shit.
I hate the government of Israel and those in it that are fine with their warmongering, genocidal ways. If you don't fall under that camp, you're generally alright. Just like with Russia, China, even the USA. It's not anti-semitism, that's what the neo-nazis do.
Antisemitism exists across the political spectrum.
I'm agreeing more with this every day. Just yesterday some guy made fun of a genuine and reasonable concern I had then made of me again sandwiching in an "apology", and when I told them it still seemed they were making light of it, they flipped the fuck out and told me I would die alone among other completely unnecessary and inappropriate insults.
I mean, I get overreacting sometimes, but it kinda feels like some days half the people you interact with are either actively shit humans or are having the worst day of their lives. I wish you could feel at least safe enough to challenge a viewpoint without some dickhead coming for your jugular. It's pretty pathetic and I've gone through several rounds of wondering if I want to be here or not. I've definitely had to block a lot of people in order to stay.
I have been called a Nazi and zionist for literally no reason. Once I responded to a comment from someone saying Nazis aren't human to say "I hate the things they believe and do, and I think they should be punished harshly for their crimes, but they are still indeed human". You would've thought I said "Nazis just have an opinion and do nothing wrong," which of course I was not even slightly hinting at or thinking. I was told I was a Nazi sympathizer who should kill himself. Then the zionist accusations will come at the drop of a hat. I literally think Israel is evil yet if I say something as innocuous as "trump is hurting Gaza even more than any Democrat" that makes me a "sHiTlIb zIoNiSt". I'm probably in the left-most 15% in the US. And yeah I know that's not saying much globally but how about we understand that people live in a context and you cannot scream them into being on the exact same page as your own personal politics? People can be so self righteous it's painful to think about. It's really taxing to my mental health when I think "this space where I relate to people more than anywhere else on the Internet is also full of people who will wish death or suffering on me if I mention one thing they don't like."
Yeah just block em dude. I enjoy your comments. Including this one.
There's a fair percentage of people I'd say are mentally ill or at least like you say.. Seem to be constantly experiencing the worst day of their lives here. I just block them and move on with life - I'm not their therapist.
My experience of Lemmy after blocking just 40 or so users, (and shit communities that I don't want to see posts from) has changed greatly for the positive. Don't let them drag you down, there's plenty of room here for reasonable opinions.
Thank you for this, good to know people enjoy my input on occasion! I have increased my quickness to block. Which sucks in a way because I do want to see even bad opinions (as long as they aren't heinous), but I cannot be raged at by these kinds of users so often.
I’m beginning to think half of these people are foreign bad actors, come across from Reddit et al ironically enough.
They’re my only complaint with this place. They’re so irrational you have to wonder how they get by daily and the conversations are always pushed the same way; once the accusations of Zionism and genocide supporter run out of steam, they move to attempting quotes you never made or deliberate attempts to confuse the conversation.
For the genuine ones among them, I think there’s a bit of cope because they’ve realised they’ve been played at the top political level and used, now their ego won’t let them admit that.
They’re not worth engaging with. These are at an honest level, pedophile and genocide enablers and at the dishonest one, bad actors working for the interests they project. I think that’s a lesson a few of us need to learn here.
I feel much the same way. In the past 48 hours I have been called a pro-genocide fascist and Blue MAGA, amongst other similar things, for 1. making a comment about the aggressive behavior of Grad users and how similar it can be to 4chan users aka those who fell into the MAGA pipeline, and 2. explaining to somebody why somebody else asked them who they voted for when they made a comment to the extent of "both sides support genocide."
I came here to find a new egg_irl and traaaa, and what I've gotten is politics and leftist infighting.
Some people just need the first stupid loser saying stupid shit to be verbose and pompous. They wouldn't mind if he was wrong, they'd join in to attack you
Yeah, I have thought that too. Often I will get several downvotes on something I think is pretty benign, and many of them tend to show up after some asshole is rude/insulting about that benign viewpoint.
You're a decent reasonable person.
A lot of lemmy users, especially the .ml nutjobs, think that makes you a horrible person. They are extremists and only support other people who support their extremist views, including the use of violence towards those who don't agree with their political opinions.
Is there a reason why an instance with so many people has the most dikheads?
Yes, because the instance(s) themselves are there to promote their beliefs and serve as safe havens for them. Just like the one you are on is about promoting books and writers. But they come into generalist instances and act like dickheads because they can't help themselves, and/or unsuspecting folks post in their instances and they lose their minds.
Thanks. Yeah, that's what I gather too.
Not true for me.
I made a joke, and someone got upset. I explained that I didn’t mean it seriously and apologized. Then they told me they were in a bad mood and apologized for their reaction.
I don't use Lemmy much anymore nowadays because of this. While it's important an alternative to Reddit exists, so I try to support it, it ironically feels more like a hivemind than Reddit does (ironic because you'd expect the opposite for federated services). I think it's because switching to Lemmy from Reddit requires either idealism or a Reddit ban, both of which disproportionately attract people who feel good when they verbally attack internet strangers for disagreeing with them on 1% of the implicitly agreed upon joint viewpoints. It also strangely reminds me of the feeling I got being part of an old gaming community that was slowly dying out, where eventually only the unpleasant ones who defined their identity based on it were left.
I'm always happy to see there are also people here who dislike this attitude, though, or even to see neutral posts. There is still hope!
Lemmy is hostile to nazis. Reddit coddles them.
There is way more "I'm 14 and very edgy and very badass" vibe here.
Yeah Lemmy has fewer layers of irony than Reddit does. I feel like reddit was more like that in the old days, but years of mockery buried that energy.
I miss ironic weird reddit communities. Like all those super weird spacedick types of random nonsense.
It sucks that you can't be random and weird anymore, without someone trying to get you banned because they have no sense of irony or human and take everything as a literal truth.
Like I'd love to make random community that is about what sandwiches you'd like to have sex with, but sadly you can't do that in 2026, because people would take it as a real legit thing, and then probably argue it's sandwich abuse because sandwiches have feelings or something.
Unfortunately a few too many "online jokes" became real-world nightmares, so now people have been primed to stamp anything questionable out early
yeah i noticed how a lot of "4chan jokes" became mainstream jokes and now are right wing policies
I just wanted to help keep people safe from the AIDS in the pool D:
Ah, SPACEDICKS.
Rest in Power, I_RAPE_CATS. D:
There is waaaaaay less of that here than Reddit or ANY other even remotely popular online community I’ve ever been on, and I’ve been online since the mid-90s. I don’t know what places on Lemmy YOU go to, but I’m not seeing it.
It's everywhere. Even in your reply with the capitalized "YOU".
Aha, you’re the kind of person OP is talking about! Makes more sense now.
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It's kinda like the founding of Australia - we get a ton of exiles who were wrongfully prosecuted by the Reddit government, but we also get a fair share of degenerates and murderers who also got banned and ended up here. There's even a native Lemmy group who was here before Reddit shed users and they really don't appreciate it to say the least.
Hahaha what’s this? Come on bust open the story
The short of it is that the creator of Lemmy and the earliest users are Marxist-Leninists, and certain blocks of them are so actively hostile to anyone who doesn't immediately agree with them that their instances are on the auto defederation list if you were to spin up your own instance.
We're talking like the communist version of 4chan levels of users amongst the worst of the group, but plenty of the other actually reasonable communities are bitter about liberals et al being on here. You'll occasionally see posts about how the new users are diluting the quality of the user base like when Reddit started to become popular.
Yeah I think I got my first DM from one earlier
Cheers for that. Too bad for them. They’re a minority and pretty stupid at that. Most of us aren’t even what they’d call ‘liberal’
Fucking sick of this American tribal politics bullshit I give you the drum
This just screams mott and bailey fallacy. It is very reminiscent, for example, of transphobes complaining that they get attacked for having the gall of claiming "sex is real". And that's basically what happened here. You said some upsetting shitty things in the thread about the two child policy, and now you're whining about people getting upset about it. Go touch some grass.
The userbase is largely overlapping as most Lemmy users are current or former Reddit users. The difference is largely in the communities and moderation, not users...
Hell is other people.
A priest explained us that hell is like a huge dinner party, lots of great food, but people have only long spoons, so they can't eat the food no matter how much they try. Heaven, well, it's the same stuff because God loves everyone, but people care and feed others with their spoon. Not really buying into the whole church business, but I always liked this picture.
Most every community has some assholes, or at least people that rub each other the wrong way. There's a lot to be said for clicking off shitty responses and not picking up the hate.
I have you tagged as "will block you when you've become cooked". You're my personal barometer for when I've gone too far off the rails or when I'm becoming too much of a redditor again
Honestly I agree. In a way, lemmy has even more in the way of edgy teenage hot takes on certain issues.
People are people, wherever you go. People are flawed. There are many good reasons to leave reddit for lemmy.
The Lemmy user base id wager has a higher percentage of folks who are less socialized. Be that for a multitude of reasons.
Ich IEL
Lemmy is filled with people who are too principled and too adamant about their stance to use Reddit because of the enshittification. If you put a bunch of highly opinionated and stubborn people in one place, you get this.
That's a lot of words to say lifetime ban
Excellent unpopular opinion that I disagree with! Good post for here :3
On Reddit, I was CONSTANTLY annoyed in every thread.
Award edits: annoying.
Talking about awards and upvotes: annoying.
Spamming subreddits as hashtags: annoying. Rehashing the same phrase/joke over and over again: annoying.
Fake stories in all top subreddits in /all/ used as creative writing before LLMs made even being CREATIVE obsolete yet the site was clogged with bullshit and hundreds (if not thousands) of people responding as if the stories are real: annoying.
(More recently, as of when I left Reddit when the API change was made) Majority of people bots or astroturfers/shills/etc: annoying.
I constantly was shitting in comments and people on Reddit because so many comments were just… so… horribly… stupid! Asinine! Coming from a history of communities of folks that, while being overtly overwhelmingly dumb/offensive, were at least original or creative (IRC/Usenet/LUE/SA/b/specific forums) in their commenting and posts, near the end of Reddit’s life I felt like I had to dig through more oceans of shit to find a tiny gold nugget than I did when I was heavy into /b/ in the early-to-mid 2000s.
I find that Lemmy threads have an expectantly smaller quantity of idiots, rehashed ‘clever’ one-liners in every thread, ‘creative’ writing that isn’t creative in the slightest, and overall garbage commenters. Better shitposters, more furries, better grammar, and more organic stuff overall.
That’s my opinion, anyway. Your post has a lot of downvotes for a “popular” “unpopular opinion” post here which tells me you’ve posted a good one hahaha. I do agree with some of what you’ve said—I’d like some places I can post and read some more crunchy-ass shit. Not stuff like being racist “as a joke”, but with the way the fediverse is, I’d like some NSFL stuff and places where people can be free to be more crude or whatnot. Lemmy is very “safe”, which is healthy for a lot of folks. Overall though, I’ll take “safe” over “enragingly annoying everywhere” hahaha
No, they’re not. The hivemind isn’t as bad. But there’s brigading of sorts, plenty of trolls, circlejerking, bad mods, and bad faith arguing.
I mean, that’s pretty much the internet in general, just reddit’s got much more of it by the numbers.
I'm sure it's already been said a few times, but with few exceptions Lemmy/mbin/etc. users ARE redditors, or recently former redditors who, for historical and practical reasons, are more likely to be interested in
While that applies to me to varying degrees, I must acknowledge that it means we're probably sometimes going to be difficult and slow to assume good faith. I try not to be that way, it's the only thing I can do. I think the left wing politics/parapolitics is better than the usual right wing variety that was common on other reddit alternatives, but that's my bias.
Lemmy is still social media that's full of anonymous posters with no consequences to their posts so of course discourse is going to be absolute shit with trolls and disingenuous people vying for imaginary points and wearing that negative points as a badge of honor.
That said, with a smaller user base, while there are still complete contrarian, disingenuous users, I do find that the discussion on average are at least better than reddit and the one key to better conversations and debates I found after moving from reddit is I'm much, much more judicious about using that block user button and block communities button.
Sure. I regularly get social media vibes as well. Everyone needs to subscribe to one of two sides. Simple truths are way better than long and nuanced texts...
We're doing better with bot activity and some Reddit-isms like commenting "This." underneath another comment. But we're not too far from the vibe on Reddit.
Not sure if roatsing people for their opinions is bad?! I mean this is the internet after all. And if you don't like backlash, don't publish your opinion on a discussion platform.
Backlash and roasting is something that's alright. But I can't stand the blatant false accusations. Post a controversial question , and people will be jumping all over you.
Hmmh, yeah. I didn't look up your case. But from my own experience we have quite some diversity going on here. There's idiots and a*holes around. Some people with weird personalities or who are not overly clever. We also have intelligent, helpful and overall nice people here. Sometimes it's obvious "it takes two to tango" situations.
I think to some degree this is unavoidable. And to some degree we should try to do more to foster good behaviour and disincentive bad behaviour. It's tricky. And we don't want a balance that's just a thick filter bubble either. Unless we're talking protected safe-space communities.
I have seen it. There are some who preach tolerance with absolute intolerance. There is no talking to them. Block them and move on.
It's just another bubble. Choose the bubble that fits you.
Not just users. Mods/admins too.
Lemmy/Piefed is more resistant to out-of-control and deranged mods and admins though.
I left reddit because of them imposing their cronenbergian UX on me.
Reading comprehension seems to have dropped significantly in the last few years. Not sure if it's site specific or just the pandemic remote learning/AI essay generation joining the Internet at large...
I see what you mean.
Going off track... the best feature here is that you can block users. Catch about 10 "big fish" and you'll find that it's much more normal around here. 0.1% of users create 90% of the drama and squabbling.
I left Reddit because of Reddit, personally. I expect better if this community, it you may be interested night.
Also, I do wonder what protections Lemmy provides against bots. How do we know the people were taking to are actually people?
I can see the "if = of" typo, but I can't parse what the second half of this sentence is supposed to mean?
Hmm, maybe I need to give it 10 minutes after waking up to comment on the internet…
I think I meant to say “I expect better from this community, so you may be right”
But I must have clicked the suggested phrase from my keyboard.
I think I would be able to tell pretty easily if I were to encounter one lol
Unless they're way better at it than I think they are.
You're absolutely right, it would be pretty easy to tell, unless it was harder to tell than you think it is.
This is an insightful relevation that highlights the fundamental problem with one's ability to gauge the comparative skill level of one's own abilities.
You've phrased the dunning-krueger effect in your own words, and I think that's awesome!
This is great trolling
uh, em dash em dash em dash, why can't i find the seahorse emoji ohgodnotthisagain
Wut?
How can you know if the bot is using chat gpt? I think it’s at an out where you couldn’t tell.
Well, why would it be? People are people and a lot of us came from reddit in the first place.
Reddit's problem is not the userbase, nor is Lemmy's problem tankies -- even though those are the memes we like to spread here. Reddit's problem is its design, that is meant to keep you occupied in their site forever.
Unfortunately, Lemmy has inherited a part of that design, in a cargo cult way. It has patterns that were designed for companies that need to make a profit.
I find that people like and dislike different things about Reddit. Me, I really didn't like the average politics of Reddit: basically Nazis, conservatives and liberals. And so much advertising! Here there are a lot of anarchist and communist users that would be censored on Reddit (though plenty of Lemmy users would like to censor them here too).
Why should it be better? It's not like reddit admins made reddit community what it is, the users did. And Lemmy is mostly former(and quite a bit even current) reddit users who left not because they thought it was a bad place but because reddit admins forced them to either by banning their preferred app or by banning them.
I've only encountered the occasional RWNJ that gets banned quickly on Lemmy's various communities. There's still a strong contingent of neo-liberals here because Reddit is hostile to anyone not far right enough. I usually label them if I think they might have a modicum to discuss or label then mute them so I know what for.
I question what sensitive inquiries you make exactly.
The caveat if you run into nothing but assholes rule also applies. I only show hostility if someone does first or they're evident arguing in bad faith or keep pushing a flawed opinion. On Reddit, you could say "I like pancakes" and get even the pancake lovers mad at you for not liking waffles enough.
Lemmy is about 10000% less facebook normie. I don't care if it's the same amount of toxic, that's already a massive improvement.
I have not yet seen that bad userbase.
Maybe it's about how one preceives commenting or so.
I think it's way nicer here and will never render to that of reddit or any mainstream social platforms as their existense will remain as traps for bad actors.
Of course some will find their way here but for most, it's way too complicated.
Yeah, not that bad. But some aholes still found their way over.
I see much more toxic behavior here than on reddit. Explicit calls for political murders, and when I criticize them (naively believing these to be open conversations about political or democratic strategies) I get banned from communities.
Neither is the "better option." I will continue using both. I'm not allergic to "toxic" behavior.
Reading all the comments here venting about bad expereince and here I am just having a blast on Lemmy with a the nice interactions! :D
The idea that contrarianism is somehow interaction is similar.
I've frequently had people start replies with "I strongly disagree" and then proceed to say the same thing as my comment back at me.
Some people are just fighting a war in their own head.
Yep, they can get awfully histrionic, prematurely judgmental, self-indulgent with the recreational outrage, vainly uncritical in their ideological thinking, and generally unchill. Nonetheless, it beats dealing with Reddit's opaque & hostile moderator system.
Less bots, more tankies.
I'm not sure which is worse.
I'm with you. Try having anything with "religion can be good" or "vegan has its flaws" and you're guaranteed to be downvoted to oblivion.
Ikrr! I'm not even religious and I've just seen too much hate for religion over here. Not as much as reddit, but plenty
Offering a different viewpoint here: a LOT of people have been directly harmed by religious institutions, which is why there's such a viciously negative reaction at times.
"Reddit Athiest"-type Sky Daddy isn't real, cultist freak stuff isn't helpful, obviously, but a lot of it is knee-jerk hate responses to the concept of spirituality because they or someone they know was genuinely harmed by a church or a religious person at some point, and when this happens it frequently goes unaddressed. I would suggest blocking instead of engaging if it really offends you, as this kind of person usually isn't evil, and getting into arguments won't change any minds.
Oh my, did someone not take your skyfairy story seriously? why didnt your god strike them down with lightning? Maybe you should follow your gods good example and be quiet about your skyfairy legends and how you want to apply them to everyone elses lives. If you want to bow to a fictional story in your own home fine, but dont expect the rest of us listen to your tedious prattling about it.
This just makes you look stupid.
It’s possible to be an atheist without acting like a 12 year old.
ok and its possible to follow a religion yourself and not bother other people about it ...like you did.
If the entire world would just learn to mind their own effing business unless it directly affects you, we'd be in such a better place. Why exactly are you against this?
What religion do I follow that I am bothering people about?
This proves the exact point that was made earlier - that for some reason, Lemmings are unable to access any critical thinking skills when it comes to religion. You turn your brain off, and just reflexively post r/atheism slogans.
Like, you get there’s a difference between people proselytizing and people talking about religion? Or am I to believe that the professor for the graduate class in religious historiography I took assigned me books about Muslims because he wanted me to convert to Islam?
If you arent advocating for more tolerance of religion broadly, why comment at all?
Religion exists, is followed by many people, and impacts our lives. If you want an understanding of history to you have to have basic background on religious beliefs.
“Hurr durr skydaddy” is a deliberate refusal to think. It is lazy, it is stupid, it is embarrassing, and it does nothing to help you better understand why things are happening in the world.
The inability to distinguish proselytizing from any other discussion of religion does not imply good things about your logical reasoning skills.
Yeah see this is exactly what I was talking about. So much about "don't expect the rest of us to listen to your tedious BS about it".
and whats wrong with that? Do we owe you our ears and attention?
Why? Because religion is such a righteous dignified force in the world?
Why should anyone listen to your bullshit then? Because you're such a righteous dignified force in the world?
buddy, a ham sandwich is a better force for good in the world than most religions. Any piece of excrement on the ground has more purpose and goodness than religion.
I'd like to think my never mass murdering self beats religion hands down-- we're not talking about a high bar, and thats just an unfortunate fact of history.
I'll pray for you :)
Definitely felt smaller and somewhat colder when initially switching. Normally smaller communities are nicer? Educated guess suggests a lot of autism going on in our core membership, it's a high tech early-adopter crowd, not always known to be the warmest and fuzziest of individuals. Personally I decided, fuck it, I'll just be my weird self and people can cope. Ignore it when you occasionally get downvoted to shit, it's just a feature of Lemmy.
It’s really cool how you can get downvoted here for saying genocide is bad.
Most people are here because we were perma-banned from reddit. So basically all the worst people from Reddit come here 😄
Lemmy.ml admins and mods should have long convinced of that.
I left reddit because they had an IPO, not because of the people.
Lemmy was never going to be a better community than reddit, because it's still redditors leaving reddit to come here. People were the problem with reddit, people are the problem with Lemmy.
That was always a given.
I like using Lemmy over Reddit which I don't have anymore because it is much slower pace and I tend to open the app maybe once a week instead of scrolling Reddit an hour a day. Since Lemmy is less active it is also less bombarded with doom scrolling, hopefully more AI slop prone and less toxic overall because I don't use the comments section that often anymore.
A sizable chunk of lemmings are people banned from Reddit for one reason or another.
Because of the federated way lemmy works it's incredibly easy for toxic users to migrate and continue being a nuisance.
Well I don’t think we’re on here to appease you so shrug.
My experience has been that the more people there are, the more difficult it is to be "seen" in a conversation, the shittier everyone starts behaving. So Lemmy is better off if for no other reason than it is a much smaller userbase. The nice thing about Federation that I could see happening is if the whole gets big enough, a few instances could cordon themselves off into a smaller subset and recreate this small-userbase-experience if it came to that.
It's all kinds of people so naturally there will be all kinds of views, even those you disagree with. The alternatives are niche communities, in which you will no doubt also find people you disagree with, or corpo propaganda slop or echo chambers.
Ofcourse. I'm all for diversity.
But in a post I made, I didn't even state an opinion, I just asked people's opinion and I had an annoying guy accuse me of shit I didn't do.
Unfortunately "I'm just asking questions" got co-opted by some awful people, and now the rest of us are stuck on the defensive, having to overanalyze "innocent questions" for underlying motive and potential "gotcha"s
I am going to push back a bit here, I've never been banned on Lemmy.... Reddit permabanned me 3 or 4 years ago, then lost so many users they unbanned my account randomly.
The internet is and always has been toxic. At least on lemmy, there's some people who remember what trolling is and recognize it. On reddit and the other platforms, the traditional internetisms are non-existent. People seem to be born yesterday. They have no concept of trolling or flamebait and the like. They take everything at face value and respond to bait with naivety.
I think they are on average better no doubt. They tend to lean more left due to Lemmy's beginnings and less general karma farming. (Less, not none)
But since Lemmy users are 99% ex-redditors yeah they share a lot of the same issues too.
Which should surprise absolutely nobody - the user base is redditors and... people who used to be redditors. "Used to be" for various reasons, including being too shrill, insufferable, spammy or malicious... for Reddit. Not exclusively, though, of course.
Either way, whatever annoys you about Reddit, you'll more than likely find it here. Y'know, to the degree you find anything on here between the ghost town factor and incredibly stupid architecture.
I don't get you?
On which count?
That sentence I quoted
I feel like you didn't actually explain what you mean, so I'm kind of guessing at what you're pointing at. But what many people object to is when they get strong replies and sometimes when they get replies that they didn't ask for. They feel attacked or they feel like the comment section is being unnecessarily aggressive or unreasonable. If that's what you're feeling, then yes, you will find it here.
And I'm not trying to minimize your feelings because they're legitimate. And also this same exact phenomenon has been happening for the last 30 years, if not longer. There are various reasons why, and those can be fun to discuss, because many people in the comments section actually have reasonable positions, but there are some trolls out there and sometimes it's hard to distinguish them.
I find it way nicer, personally.
I like it here. You must go to some weird instances.
It was [email protected]
.ML is one of the worst instance in the fediverse, brother.
Also stay away from Hexbear, Lemmygrad, and HilariousChaos.
big mistake
blocking lemmy.ml will make your experience a lot less hostile.
the majority of crazy people on lemmy come from there and a few other extremist instances.
Zamn! I was unaware!!
This is just the same oft repeated toxic nonsense. .ml is no worse than any of the other subs. There has been a fairly steady rachet campaign since I joined to either get leftwing instances banned or encourageing folks to block them.
People going into a Marxist-Leninist instance trolling with long debunked US-hegemon propaganda are not going to give an honest account of the place.
On a wider point, there are probably a number of topics that are triggering for some folks in ways that catch people off guard. For instance people both-sidesing issues that if you only follow main stream media might seem a reasonable and popular position but the actual history of the issue can go back many decades and be obscenely unjust. Folks that have been paying attention or, worse, have been personally effected, may have a hair trigger on that issue. It's very easy for bad faith actors to tone police folks like that. Especially when a majority of people are uninformed on the issue.
that user is just mad that they can't say racists slurs without getting banned
Frame shift:
So then how would you attempt to make things better?
Lemmy isn't a monolith, you can start your own instance if you wanted to, make your own comm, even propose design changes to the codebase, if you take the time to understand how it actually currently works.
Instances can federate or defederate, you as a user can block other users or comms... you can even block mods or instance admins.
Instances themselves often have different baseline rules, entry/joining processes/requirements, different levels of discussion about what rules and policies should be.
The whole point is that the fragmentation is the strength of the system. You have more power and can more easily manage your own experience, but this requires a bit more active engagement on your part.
I'm not trying to say that you shouldn't be able to complain about problems that you see, but I am suggesting that you should then take the next step beyond that, and try to be proactive.
Be warned though: Any suggested changes are likely to be much more complex than you probably think they will be, and will likely be much more controversial than simply noticing that things could be better.
Have you asked yourself why you asking sensitive questions? Like what is even an example of this situation you are talking about?
Have you considered the wording of the question might show intent.
Long time Lemmy user and ngl I'm not a fan of this broad generalization nor do I quite understand what you are talking about, and I don't often see stuff like this on Lemmy that often.
https://youtu.be/PJIgw9hWaTg
You can check my post history if you want to :)
And you're not worth it. Blocked ya :3
lol blocked for asking questions
Aren't the answers for those questions obvious? People ask questions they can't ask IRL online all the time. He's just acting oblivious to make my post look weird. Also he can check those things for himself. 😽
the lack of self reflection is strong on you, saying all that and wondering why people could be angry with your questions is amazing
As far as I know, I haven't said anything wrong or rude.
I have a right to block a person if he replies with the link of a song like that. He's openly being rude and doesn't want answers. (I did answer, told him to check my post history) I'm confused as to why you would try to defend him, honestly. Unless you're the type of person I talked about in my post, it doesn't make sense.
So, if you have any self-respect at all, stop bothering me.
Imagine how a trans person feels when reading transphobe a talking point or a Chinese person reading if the two child policy should be a thing? I get that you were just asking questions but any person affected by these issues may not react in a way you like.
You can check those things for yourself as you said previously.
I'm not defending anyone, I'm just stating what I see. If that bothers you it's ok.
And guess what? I received none of your hostility on that post. I was talking about another post. In that post, I was given in detail answers. They were understanding. Stop using trans people for your pettifoggery, they didn't mind. And in the two child policy question, I was asking an opinion which is different from stating it. They read 'do you think strict two child policy should be a thing? 'Which could be replied with 'No'.
Well, have you? Since you seem to be convinced my post offended trans people... You definitely haven't read it.
You saw that I blocked someone for being rude and stated that I blocked them for asking questions. So, no. You're not stating what you see. And yes, lying bothers people. Stop that.
That's because most of them are redditers
meh, I've seen some shit here, but overall I'm happy with the communities on Lemmy. it's been too long since I've been on Reddit for me to remember.
downvoting because I agree. Brigading happens here as much or more than reddit
I mean yeah there's gonna be toxic people everywhere. I thought that was a given?
People remain people, but in my experience it's much better for discussion simply because there are far less of them.
It's just people. The more of them you get in one place, the more shitheads crop up.
Yeah, someone calls me a retard, I call them a retard, and then mod turns out to be a triggered Karen foaming over made up problem related to people with mental disabilities.
I'd say its worse, because a lot of the chill niches have not migrated over.
Imo it's quite alright if you avoid certain instances and comms where a lot of infighting happens. There's a lot less karma whoring/raging compared to what I've seen back in the reddit days, and plenty of people who can have a reasonable conversation if you're not too confrontational. Bad interactions happen but that's something you'll always see when many people with vastly different opinions are involved.
I joined because federation keeps it from being corpo controlled. Also a little bit is a lot in a lot of things nowadays. Part of it I think is its still a general place. Like when I went on reddit it was where the mmo communities I was playing hung out. I only came for that. So yeah people were great. Go to general communities though and it got way worse.
No it doesn't? It makes it mildly difficult by making sure any corpo, if it cared to, would need to control a significant-ish amount of the instances. There's no clear reason to do that, which is nice, because it would be pretty hard to defend against.
"Federation" is used on here as a magical buzzword that fixes shit, it doesn't do that. It's an implementation detail that's meant to make certain things better but mostly only makes them more complicated. It just means that you have a bunch of minireddits that vaguely and inconsistently interact with each other and have a lot of overlapping stuff, communities and such.
How do you propose they could do that? Genuinely curious.
A corpo-instance would be defederated by everyone else.
On one hand I'm not sure elaborating would be a good idea, on the other the broad strokes are "spin up a few instances and be a dick in various ways". People are already blatantly doing that anyway, so it's not really a secret. Federation is limited - who even federates, who defederates, any other limitations, community rules and whatever else, a bunch of stuff influences the actual content you see. Random fediverse happenings (good reasons, bad reasons, outright technical failure) have already caused a bit of headache on their own, let alone what a motivated malicious actor could do.
Most overtly deliberately inflammatory instances get federated.
Well, yes. I'm not sure what your point is here. I'm focusing on your claim that someone malicious (a corpo) could somehow subvert the Threadiverse.
I don't see what a malicious actor could do just by spinning up an instance.
it does because you can go to what you want and they can defederate from what they want. blue sky is defederated quite commonly and has made no inroads at all.
In theory. In practice I don't think it works at all. Discoverability on this thing is pretty awful (bluesky has that issue too) and you would need that to be better and the actual experience of "moving around" to suck a lot less, for that to actually work.
moving around is easy. I have done it twice. started on kbin, then an mbin instance, and now piefed. discourberability has been fine for me but right now it lacks the niche communities. Its enough to create them but to have folks actually going to them. I kinda get annoyed people make communities in the hopes of it becoming something. Most communities should not be created until several people start chatting with each other and plan out making one so it should have several mods to start and members who start populating wikis and the sidebar and such. minimum of 3 but half dozen would be better.
Moving around is not easy if you want to actually preserve any of your preferences. The blocklist alone tends to add up really quick. But I agree mostly on the communities: pure "if you build it, they will come" thinking, while it doesn't really work that way.
the upload/download seems to work from my experience. not so much at the start but its come a long way. piefed/lemmy seem plenty compatible but im not sure about mbin.
I argue that many communities fail because most community owners don't know about federation (using tools like lemmy-federate) and don't advertise it, and don't maintain it.
all the same I think if someone cannot find a few like minded people to start a community they should not. Its like making a club alone that meets at the library. Might work and might not but if you have two friends who want to hang out and do the thing anyway then who cares because you will be there anyway.
Agreed. And as this platform becomes more popular I'm getting more and more unnecessarily snotty comments and responses and posts being pulled down. Reddit - rinse and repeat
I recently replied to someone agreeing with them and they blocked me,
Kinda childish to announce it in a comment that way like if they blocked me without telling me I wouldn't have known and still wouldn't care
My favorite is if you fight back them they just tell you that you're lying and wrong and they know the TRUTH. And you are an ignorant fool who supports fascism and pedophilia if you disagree with their stupid and awful takes.
It's like arguing with a toddler equipped with buzzwords they think make them win by default.
It’s crazy how I immediately knew you were the problem here just by how you wrote that screed out.
It's ok. I block people from dbzer0 frequently, because all your users are massive hypocrites who see the world through a weirdly exaggerated and distorted lens. Someone explained to me awhile ago that you're all wannabe fascists who cosplay as anarchists so you can feel 'not like the other fascists' and it made total sense given the takes that come from your users.
like calling three sentences a 'screed'.
Yeesh! Lmao.
When you say shit like "I can't walk down the street without being bombarded by trans flags or talk to people without them mentioning trans rights" and "LGBTQ+ people are 100% pro harassment" you will rightfully be called out and shouted down for the hateful shit you spew on Lemmy.
I'm anti being a hateful asshole. But that makes me a hateful asshole in the views of LGBT extremists online, and IRL sometimes, because you think the world is a binary of 'for me, or against me'. And what you fail to get is that most folks, simple don't give a fuck about it, and that's fine.
Lots of LGBT+ people are assholes dude. If you think they aren't you are just deluding yourself and you're probably one of the LGBT+ assholes who thinks their 'views' mean they are justified in being hateful and harassing others, because you know, some people do it against you. And if you think anyone who calls out LGBT+ activists for their extremist and zealotry, is anti-LGBT, yes you are one of those same hateful LGBT+ assholes.
I've been over to blahj. Huge amount of their comment is just rage bait and hate bait. It's not activism, it's an echo chamber.
Ironically, if you said "I can't wait down the street without being bombarded by Trump flags" I don't think you'd consider that a hateful comment, right? It's almost as if... having grandstanding political nonsense being shoved in your face is fucking weird and off-putting to people who don't spend every waking moment agonizing about it.
But yes, please continue to lecture me how awful I am for not being on your side. Just like people on Trump's side think I'm a pro-trans homo queerio for not being on theirs. It's almost as if I want nothing to do with either of your extremist camps that are largely populated by people with massive victim complexes who only find joy by being miserable sacks of shit because they refuse to take responsibility for their own lives... who only see the world in binaries.
me when I am "harassed" by people talking about their right to live like any other citizen
this is you, this is how you sound to any queer person, I hope you have a beautiful day!
I’m doing my best to class this joint up! I’m polite as fuck and I’m bringing an immaculate aura to the conversation
But you're saying it's better. :P
I would go so far as to say it may be worse.
For example, there are certain people on Lemmy who hold very strong opinions on subjects and try to shoehorn in that opinion even where it is not appreciated. There are even more of those sorts of people on Reddit, but they are diluted by a much larger user base that knows how to act right.
Used to better
I'm starting to conclude that social-media is addictive precisely because the people we interact with trigger us and piss us off.
If I want a rational, polite, and balanced discussion and conversation, I use AI. It's not perfect, but it's clearly a superior communication compared to people on any social media platform.
So why am I here? Complex emotional reasons that make unpleasant interactions compelling (and addictive) and a deep-seated desire to have my worst views about humanity confirmed.
I've used this platform for 24 hours and I'm already thoroughly pissed-off by its users and the abusive way they communicate: Lemmy delivers.
Social media use is masochistic.
If you want to have a really bad opinion on people in general, engage with them on social media.
To be homest, it’s even worse here, at least in my experience.
Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.
Just the fact that your comments and posts aren't nuked by mods and admins for existing is what puts lemmy well above any popular social media platform.
I think the average user is still wayyyyyy better than reddit because you will actually get a decent chunk of normal responses here, as opposed to an entire thread being filled with completely useless text or karma farming addicts.
And thanks to federation, if you ever do find yourself in a dumb instance like hexbear or feddit (lol), you can just swap to a new instance with no problem, and often users will naturally follow to the better instances where you don't have content censorship .
tankies, and conservatives, especially anything support russia, israel and the CCP. i block these accounts, and any account that calls out people for erroneous anti-semitism, when its not. PLUS people who make judgy comments, or "actually" responses followed by a personal attack too, my favorite is almost always things involving christianity. still significantly better than reddit, since you will be bombarded by bots, or propaganda accounts to. or they have people brigading you.
I came to lemmy thinking it would be a space for old school pre corporate internet users. A place where people wanted to create something that was primarily leftist who wanted to work towards what we once had. Instead it was the opposite of that.
Lemmy seems like a place where people just want to recreate corporate spaces. People here don't want to change anything instead they want to solidify the stuff that already doesn't work. As long as you can sell these communities to advertisers then they're happy as can be.
I got banned from another lemmy fed news group because I had the nerve to question communism. I guess the reddit mods have migrated here.
So you don't like the social part of social media. And its Lemmy join an instance that agrees with you 100%, start your own, block instances you don't like.
depends on what instance you use and what comunitys/instances u block.
The only anoying user cluster i came about here was this iranian bot farm cluster that basically cryes "muh Zionism" at everything and everyone, but blocking the .ml instance helped a lot ignoring those
Also blocking every politics related comunity is a good step to keep your sanity
Are you upset because your stupid question about trans women got you roasted?
You were a fucking dickhead and you can't accept that people held you to account
As I mentioned so many times in the post itself, I didn't mean any mockery towards anyone. Read the entire post
I asked it because I saw it in a debate and wanted to dig deeper. If I'm being supportive of something I want to make sure I absolutely know what I'm talking about.
A lot of people even provided me with some really good answers. I wasn't roasted. Idk what you're talking about man.
you can't talk politely about trans things on here because of trans rights extremists will come out and harass you, and try to get you banned.
they think even asking questions or trying to understand trans issues is VERBOTEN.
there is also several instances of blahjzone, which is where a lot of the trans extremists hang out and come from.
But you can tho. And I did. I was given in detail answers. My post was about an A-hole encounter from another post.
fucking lol
Then what are you bitching about?
Bruh, Stop being aggressive. I didn't say anything to hurt you?
Imma just block ya, bcz Ik how you're gonna be if I continue to talk wth ya.
Have a nice day ~~ 🥰