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I dunno, my interest in this subject has been very high for years and years.

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Not so fun but interesting fact. The folks peddling this thing also desecrated human corpses, can't remember if this is one of them or if this one just used animal remains. If it's just the animal it's neet if not then it's from a pillaged native site.

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sh.itjust.works

I pray he doesn't. I pray he suffers a debilitating stroke, that he wastes away in a chair, refusing to step down or stop taking press conferences. I pray he suffers tremors, and delirium, slurred and broken speech, visibly decaying.

I want his followers to see him as the pathetic husk that he is. I want him to live decades in that chair, I want him to have endless trials in that chair. Death is the easy way out.

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sh.itjust.works

Charlie Kirk is absolutely still talked about by the right, and it absolutely has undertones of martyrdom.

It's not about justice, it's about breaking the spell. It's about destroying the ridiculous, yet widespread, picture of him as a charismatic strongman. If he just dies, his devotees can hold onto that image, and carry the enthusiasm to the next one. If he withers away pathetically over years, the magic of the movement leaks away, and the cult may awkwardly wither with him.

But more importantly, the people behind him pulling the strings will be able to get away with much worse if obedient JD fills his seat. The saving grace of Trump's incompetence is his tendency to screw up the plan given by his puppeteers. His buffoonery is currently the most effective factor in slowing Project 2025.

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it absolutely has undertones of martyrdom

Some, such as his grifter wife, are pushing that narrative hard, but mainly he's just not being discussed as much. For many others on the right, his znti-zionism runs against their desired narrative (even if it was coming from antisemitism rather than from basic human decency).

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I think the consequences of Trump dying are worse than the consequences of him living. As I said, the next in line would likely make fewer mistakes in implementing terrible policy. His administration has control for the next 2+ years either way, he does more damage to their platform through his incompetence than his replacement would.

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inarireply
piefed.zip

Folks are saying it's going to be the best party. I think it's going to be beautiful.

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You probably wouldn't expect someone to read this pronounced like "Biggel yeast," but I did exactly that!

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discuss.online

I had guessed by Christmas. He looks terrible. Cankles like that happen when your heart and/or kidneys are in failure. He also acts like a man with stroke defecits. In addition to all the signs of Alzheimer’s, which, unlike dementia, is an additional physical degradation of the brain that can kill you.

If he’s on dialysis, skipping dialysis can easily kill you. Potassium alone can do it. Skip, potassium rises, maybe to 6+, heart attack. The meds that remove that fluid and reduce the size of cankles rely on the kidneys and can damage the kidneys.

Even so. Do not believe for a single second that any of this improves under President Theil, er, Vance.

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lemmy.world

Exactly.

As weird as it is to say, Trumps unpredictability, irrationality, and penchant for reacting without thinking, have probably mitigated more damage than its caused.

When you get Vance in there, Who is capable of self control, who has the pressure of the money masters on him to do X.. I think things would genuinely get much worse under him. Especially since he'd also be struggling to reign in control of the cult of trump and direct them usefully.. Possibly by declaring that liberals were responsible for Trumps death, and inciting extreme violence as a result to distract from his own weakness.

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lemmy.world

I do think it will improve under vance. He is far more likely to listen to advisors. And far less likely to start a war to distract from him being in the Epstien files.

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lemmy.world

Van would be wholly submissive to his masters. The same masters that try to control trump, but often fail due to Trumps own inbuilt idiocy.

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P00ptartreply
lemmy.world

But they don't have the support that Trump does. That blind cult loyalty.

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Mulligrubsreply
lemmy.world

Trump can be replaced immediately by any hack TV personality. That Hercules guy, for example...

Or anyone with solid name recognition, like Bezos. It's a really big deal for the stupid, and the stupid are most of the registered voters, after all.

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or they can just say the liberals did it, and the cult wont care whose in charge, because blood and vengeance will be on their minds instead.

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No, bezos is too smart for that crowd. They want to feel equal to. They want someone as stupid as them, so that when he calls someone stupid with no basis, they feel validated calling anyone left of them stupid as well.

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People are going to be worshipping Trump like a god after he dies. There's no replacing that.

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phxreply
lemmy.world

I think JD is still likely to be puppeted by a consortium of evil, but he may also be beholden to a smaller subset of evil masters than DT. Not sure if that's a good thing or not

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Eh. They can’t tell Trump what to do, only nudge and manipulate. Trump has to think it’s his idea.

Vance will do as he’s told.

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lemmy.zip

Don't bet on it. Thiel's a madman, and he owns Vance.

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If there is a civil war, I hope Trump lives long enough to prosecute it. I want my enemies to be wholly incompetent, it would save many innocent lives.

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What it does is fragment their base. Hopefully beyond repair. Vance is not well liked by literally anyone right now. Only the billionaire class.

Trumps base thinks vance is a poser.

He will try to do some evil theil shit, but he will have little to no support.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

There’s way too much hidden plumbing for that. I wouldn’t trust that the piss is actually staying at the grave. It should just be a gravel pit with PVC pipe that goes straight down into the ground, with a funnel on the end for people to piss into. Could even have two different height funnels (one near the ground for the squatters, and one raised a few feet for the standers) so it is fully inclusive. Anything more elaborate would be a waste of taxpayer money.

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discuss.tchncs.de

So he'll be replaced with Vance? Not exactly something to look forward to, either.

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Ariselasreply
piefed.ca

will anyone follow Vance though? That's a chance I'd be willing to take

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lemmy.wtf

I've never really understood the attraction Pedolf has, he's always been a vapid moron to me. Vance though? There's no way he can hold this coalition of the worst of humanity together.

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Lemminaryreply
lemmy.world

I hope you're right, but I also don't want to underestimate him.

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lemmy.wtf

The people in that orbit are greedy sociopaths who can only be kept in line through fear. Once he dies, the fear vanishes and they'll turn on each other so fucking quickly.

I can't wait for it.

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lemmylommyreply
lemmy.world

Once Kim Il Sung dies the fear vanishes and they’ll turn on each other so fucking quickly.

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lemmy.zip

That system was well set up for power passing to a hereditary successor. The U.S., not so much. Trump has no interest in laying the groundwork for a smooth transition for an eventual successor, because he cares too much about himself.

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I'd argue that Trump has actively worked to make sure there's no heir apparent to the magat throne, because an heir is a potential threat.

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The fear didn’t vanish with Kim Il Sung - he was followed by Kim Jong Il and Kim Jong Un.

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I think its more likely they've already got plans in place to turn that horde against the left by trying to blame the "evil woke communist liberal socialists" for his death, to avoid the Oroborus..if at least temporarily.

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Yeah, I don't see Vance having the same pull, but then I thought it was a joke when Trump announced his bid for the presidency, so I don't trust myself to understand what these people are thinking.

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dhorkreply
lemmy.world

Until Vance appoints a VP, and it gets approved by the House and Senate.

If Donald has eaten his last cheeseburger, he's better off to have done it now, because if it happened after the Midterms and Democrats manage to get a majority in the House, I bet they sit on the nomination and Vance just sits there, with the knowledge that he is all that is standing between us and President Hakeem Jeffries....

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I have a feeling if Dems win in Nov the lame fuck shenanigans are going to destroy the nation.

Please please PLEASE prove me wrong.

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The cure is the same regardless of the name of the Nazi.

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lemmy.zip

God I hate these comments.

Do people really not understand the power Trump has over the narcissists that believe in him? You folks really think he's "just a symptom" and not an engine? Goddamn...No one thinks everything will magically be fine when he dies, he's made evident that the country is in need of fundamental repair, but for fuck's sakes.... How do some of you still not understand the singular force for evil that he's been for decades?

Vance wouldn't be much better, but he would certainly be less chaotic and ffs can you not let us be happy if Trump is dead? Let us have this one fucking thing after 10 years without pissing all over it. Fuck.

"Sure Hitler's dead, but" shut the fuck up

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lol sorry

I def went too hard. I just get so frustrated with how some people seem to think character is a secondary consideration when it's the difference between monsters and men, and this sentiment that Trump dying wouldn't make a difference just sums it all up for me.

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So should we not be hoping for his downfall? This statement seems pointless. If 2 evil men exist and one of them goes away to leave us just with 1 that’s still a positive thing isn’t it?

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After what that J.D. Hamel guy did to the last pope I’d imagine he’s a person of interest. Hell, CK’s wife even called him an assassin.

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Well, on one upside, if Vance steps in before the midterms, he'd only be eligible for one presidential term afterward, instead of two.

Admittedly, it's not a reason why he should take over now, but an added silver lining is always welcome.

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Stevereply
startrek.website

Vance is soft and lucid. I wouldn't be surprised if he resigned and disappeared right quick.

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So then we'd have President Mike Johnson? Fucking great.

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Mursereply
slrpnk.net

The cure is the same for that disease, too. Preserving one Nazi from fear of the next is not the approach we need. Kill enough of them and they'll eventually get the message.

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Fuck that, Vance has the charisma of someone who fucks couches. The Nazi party can barely keep their shit together. Lets let have Vance give it a go.

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TransNekoreply
lemmy.world

I think that killing them all still wont get the message across.

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As soon as trumps heart stops someone will shoot JD Vance immediately. Then they will all scatter like rats. "what maga? Never heard of it"

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lennybirdreply
lemmy.world

Can we have him live and ship him off to The Hague? I'd much rather see him in cuffs and also avoid Vance becoming president automatically

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Sternreply
lemmy.world

Vance doesn't have the cult behind him and certainly wouldn't be daily headlines like Donald.

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lennybirdreply
lemmy.world

He's way smarter though, at least rhetorically to the median electorate as a psychopath anyway. We all thought the same of Trump back in 2015 too.

When the billionaires make their pivot, and you can tell they're already setting up the chess pieces for a post-Trump era, watch how suddenly they promote Vance or some other shithead

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JcbAzPxreply
lemmy.world

Smarter than Trump isn't exactly a high bar. Without the threat of the redhats behind him, he'll be toothless. If just billionaire backing was enough the republicans would have been god emperors of the earth forty years ago.

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lennybirdreply
lemmy.world

I think red hats will follow whatever bait billionaires dangle in front of them. It only takes a little meeting among the puppeteers to decide whom to start promoting, and then they'll all fall in line like good little pawns. They fall for it every single time, this much I know. If they can fall for Bush Jr., for Trump, then the next person will be no different. In fact, they'll just go, "You guys said Trump was a clown with the bronzer! Look how refined and sophisticated JD Vance is! He's even a pretty good debater and just speaks facts that you don't like!"

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You vastly underestimate the hold Trump has over them. No one could take his place for them. They're the ones voting only Trump the last election.

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When the billionaires make their pivot, and you can tell they're already setting up the chess pieces for a post-Trump era

Vance is already Theil's puppet. Has been since before he was nominated to run with Trump.

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lemmy.world

No. I hope he lives until 2027 and J. D. Vance's vice presidential pick has to be confirmed by a Democratic Senate.

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No. It'd be better to have him die before the midterms and have vance replace him just before Vance is tossed. The sooner he's dead, the better.

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Mursereply
slrpnk.net

Shouldn't there be two guys behind Mitch's corpse, too?

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Been like this most of the last year. Trump has moderate dementia.

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Dear Lord Jesus, it's been many years since I prayed. Give me this one thing and we can work something out. Over and out.

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TheEntityreply
lemmy.world

Huge Kratos energy over here. "ARES!!! Destroy my enemies and my life is yours!"

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cmbabulreply
lemmy.world

Honestly outside of being tricking into killing your wife and child it could be a worse deal

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Crom, I have never prayed to you before. I have no tongue for it. No one, not even you, will remember if we were good men or bad. Why we fought, or why we died. All that matters is that two stood against many. That's what's important. Valor pleases you, Crom, so grant me one request. Grant me revenge! And if you do not listen, then to HELL with you!

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lemmy.world

"What if Trump dies on my birthday?" -literally my girlfriend this morning

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programming.dev

Given the quality of this timeline I expect something superficially exciting will happen, and then President Vance will call for a time of unification and healing, and of respect for the separation of powers. After ending the war he disbands ICE and starts rolling back some of the most bigoted trump shit while keeping his "race: political" wife front and center. He does all that opportunistic shit to build his wholesome public image, and it works with many people who barely pay attention or just want things to look normal.

And then in the background the transfer of wealth continues to accelerate in the wrong direction while the surveillance state grows unchecked and the Supreme Court helps it along as planned.

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Vance isn't clever enough to manage that level of subterfuge.

But he is slimy enough to try.

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I'm surprised they didn't start the rumor yesterday , then when he came back tomorrow it would feed in to his Messiah complex

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I'm amazed the fat cunt has survived this long. He's literally been rotting for months but like a really stubborn nugget of shit in my bum hairs, he still managed to cling on.

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The turd that hangs on and continually sexually assaults you.

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lemmus.org

The White House also issued what is known as a 'lid' on Saturday, a notification to the press pool indicating the president would not be making any public appearances for the remainder of the day. Krassenstein noted that a lid at 11 am was unusual for Trump, adding that the president had not travelled to Mar-a-Lago as he typically does at weekends. A separate, unverified post on Bluesky from an anonymous user claimed that a major road near the hospital had been blocked off and that an emergency meeting was underway at the White House. Neither claim has been independently verified.

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I hope I’m wrong, but what I’ve read it’s not happening today. Sounds like Walter reed had roads shut down around it and around the same time the White House shut down media access. I think he’s been at the White House surrounded by military all day. I hope I’m wrong. I really do

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Hippocratic oath and all that.
Doctors and nurses. Remember your oath. The lives of many or one?

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Just another bruise on the hand for his infusion of essence of youth distilled from Epstein island victims. People are saying.

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lemmy.world

So studies on mice have shown that transfusing young blood into old mice has a rejuvenating effect. You may not be far off.

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OwOarchistreply
pawb.social

Eh, he's (supposedly) at a fancy hospital. So he'll be surrounded by doctors and nurses, and probably on really good pain drugs.

So you can forget about the 'in pain and all alone' part. But we can still hope...

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"...oh, the order was for morphine? I misread it as a 1L IV bolus of bleach. My bad, won't happen again."

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lemmy.ml

He is definitely NOT fine.

Either he's dead and he did NOT write this or he's completely lost his mind.

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Hux
lemmy.world

America may have to tap into its emergency Champagne reserves…

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feddit.org

Chances on them wanting to further the "Trump as the second coming of Christ" lore and resurrect him in three days?

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lemmy.world

For this reason alone i am SO glad he didn’t die on Good Friday.

Any other time is fine with me, though. The sooner, the better.

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It's cool, MAGAs. Dear Leader has gone to live on a big farm, where he can run and play with a lot of other fascist despots.

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lemmy.ca

I mean...it's only a matter of time. The clock runs out on everyone sooner or later...even trump.

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Dettweilerreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

The only sadness over him dropping dead will be the lack of justice for his many sexual assault victims.

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The lack of justice seems to be a given, so I'll be fine with a rotting corpse that got away with it sooner rather than later.

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Sure but think of lives that may be saved from him stopping from causing or continuing more wars. Neither thing is good and neither compare to each other. Just takes this from taking time for justice to a matter of urgency.

And I've been a previous victim of sexual assault, it pains me to realize that the victims won't be given the light they deserve. It pisses me off that he's never going to see the result of it. Putting an urgent stop to death requires this guy needs to be stopped. Now. Less lives lost the better. Given the complete lack of remorse of the party that empowered the creep I can only see death as the only way he's going to be stopped. Cuz No one is going to step up.

I'd hope the victims should still get some compensation. I hope it comes in the form of yoinking any inheritance trump's spawn were hoping to recieve and that his victims recieve it instead.

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Maybe that was the butterfly fart that pushed the fates towards a brighter tomorrow... If so, many thanks!

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Bet on him surviving.

A) He lives, and you collect a bunch of money.

B) He dies, and you lose money.

Either way, though, it's still cause to celebrate! A true win/win scenario.

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SnarkoPoloreply
lemmy.world

It's been several hours, and none of the major outlets have picked it up.

Another distraction.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

If he dies facing no consequences for his actions that would be sad...

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Right, although it would create problems for the cult. Either way, it would be a good thing.

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He will sadly not face any consequences either way (unless hell is real). So hoping that MAGAts will tear themselves apart after his death is our only option.

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If it's a choice between the two, sure.

But let's play the odds here.

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lemmy.world

I mean it will happen one day. But until I see it on a more mainstream and reputable news source like the BBC I refuse to get my hopes up. When it is real that news will spread fast.

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It's upsetting that you have to go all the way to Britain to find a reputable news source about the American President.

I mean, that's 100% the world we live in...it's just...cray.

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Fuck, I haven't bought fireworks yet.... That was my plan for this 4th, keep a bunch of fireworks for exactly this, when it happens.

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Maybe part of this Iran thing was to disguise his personal health visits as meetings with wounded troops but it went as well as his other plans so we found out anyway.

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BigFigreply
lemmy.world

BS we all know he doesn't visit wounded troops because they're "losers"

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lemmy.world

Ok, I might be off base here, but I'm a bit concerned that him dying now would be much worse in the long run, just because without him being so visibly awful in the lead up to the election people are going to forget how awful everything around him was and decide to vote back in the people enabling him.

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people are going to forget how awful everything around him was

Nah, JD will still be there making everything awful. And without the cult of personality around him that inexplicably makes people forget about the awfulness.

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Don't worry, we'll still have high gas prices and the Epstein files to remind us.

Also, Vance will continue the traditions, and probably make the Iran war worse.

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lemmy.world

They'll just replace him with an AI fake powered by Grok and gaslight us into believing it is the real Trump. Everyone will go along with it because of course they will.

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lemmy.wtf

I'm suspicious about people that die with Easter. They might come back.

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Oh man, that would be some solid proof God is a huge dick

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As long as you tie his shoelaces together when buried, there won't be any risk of zombie trump.......

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Well, I will agree with Trump on one issue, and that is saying he is going straight to hell.

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discuss.online

Judging by that grotesque selfie, he's not in for an orange-ectomy.

Edit: on second glance his eyes look bloodshot AF.

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Wait that post can't be real, right? He looks like he already croaked an hour ago.

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lemmy.world

Draft dodgers shouldn't even be admitted. Should transferred his ass to a more expensive place

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sh.itjust.works

I'm curious too because he looks so sweaty that I can't believe he'd post that himself.

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He doesn't use Twitter anymore, even though they unbanned him. He pretty much exclusively posts on his own private social media network.

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