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sh.itjust.works

Money can absolutely buy happiness, but you have to be capable of feeling it. A trillion bucks would let anyone do amazing things that could make you incredibly happy.

However, the process of getting a trillion dollars requires that you're an evil psychopath incapable of experiencing pleasure.

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OwOarchistreply
pawb.social

Just think about how much happiness you'd get from:

  • Completely solving world hunger, single-handedly.

  • Massive vaccine roll-outs to eradicate or nearly eradicate some of the worst diseases.

  • Giving every single homeless person in the US a free house to live in.

  • So much hookers and blow.

And after all that, you'd still be a billionaire. Just getting started.

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lemmy.world

The world would also celebrate your existence, not despise you.

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sh.itjust.works

I think about this all the time. If he just built electrified trains everywhere in the world and ended world hunger, I wouldn't even bat an eye if he also wanted to start a weird sex cult (with consenting adults). Chute dude, i'd probably sign up to incubate one of his sons.

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Tbf if he just built electrified trains everywhere in the world, he'd run out of money before finishing a single continent.

Think about it: He doesn't have a trillion dollars (or even a few hundred billions) in liquid cash. It's all in the perceived value of Tesla, which is about 30x overvalued (price/earnings being around 300, 10 is considered a normal healthy value). The more electrified trains everywhere, the fewer cars needed.

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Dude could be universally loved and become a living saint if he spent his money for good. Instead he'll just be remembered as just another greedy pathetic rich asshole.

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daanniireply
lemmy.world

Solving world hunger would get you an endless parade of pussy.

You wouldn't need hookers.

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shweddyreply
lemmy.world

No one would need hookers everyone would be so well fed and happy and stress free that everyone would want to reproduce.

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Fuck that. If I'm well fed and happy I'm going to want to keep rolling, not deal with some shitty screaming brat for years.

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several billion more mouths to feed would start more problems

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You think anyone would feel any happiness for that if they are already a trillionare? he probably would be more worried about wasting his money.

If those people cared at all they would at least donate 1% of their income and donate more percentage as they get more money.

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lemmy.today

Thinking hookers are connected to happiness says no good things about you as a person, and I in no way mean that as a negative to sex workers.

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He cant solve world hunger, money isnt the problem, and liquidating the stocks to do that would wipe out the value of what his stocks are worth leaving not enough money anyway.

Its an incredibly complex problem.

He could likely do something about it in specific isolated western countries though.

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lemmy.world

Yeah I agree, if I was a billionaire I’d be spending a lot of money on things that don’t just benefit myself, and I’d hope that’d make me happy at least a little bit. I think the not having happiness part comes from the hoarding part of it.

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feddit.org

But you wouldn't be a billionaire. There are people in the world that do good, they just don't get as rich because they care about people

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Exactly. I believe that becoming a billionaire is necessarily a symptom of some kind of mental illness because of what it takes to do so. Most people would be unwilling to do it.

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You’re probably right. I do wonder though if you could become a billionaire and outweigh the harm you have to do to become one once you achieve that marker but it’s certainly a tough question. Especially with no guarantee you’ll even make it to that height then you could become essentially evil for nothing. Plus who’s to say you don’t lose yourself in the process. The difference between a multimillionaire and a billionaire is certainly quite vast.

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Except he doesn’t have a trillion dollars. He’s got assets he can borrow against that he claims are worth that much and people believe him.

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While true, he's easily worth half that in accessible funds/loans.

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There have been studies done that suggested money can buy happiness but only to a certain extent. I think the cap was somewhere north of the upper middle class. Enough money where you didn't ever really have to worry about bills or ever going broke, while also being able to travel and vacation several times a year.

Past that point increasing the amount of money didn't increase the overall happiness of the person.

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Money doesn’t buy happiness, at least not in a healthy long-term way. What it does do however is eliminate sources of unhappiness.

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quokk.au

Science says the money turns you into that, as well as them being more likely to get the money in the first place.

It literally destroys your brain. The alienation from real life, from friction, from thinking.

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Crashumbcreply
lemmy.world

I can see that but, I'd rather have my brain destroyed by money than poverty. The constant hunt for your next meal or just a roof over your head. The constant anxiety for any kind of security at all.

Yeah I'll take the money path thanks.

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lemmy.ca

Never forget that Elon is such a colossal looser, that even Epstein, the most despicable piece of shit on earth, wanted absolutely nothing to do with him.

This is the type of special that Elon brings to the world.

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It is not true that he wanted nothing to do with him. The mails shows that Musk did attend Epstein parties. He just had to beg one time for it though.

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I've seen this repeated a few times, and it never sits right with me, because it sounds like Epstein's opinion on somebody suddenly matters.

There's plenty evidence to make the case against Mee-lon without resorting to a systematic pedophile's opinion.

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Even grok knew better than to burn tokens generating some friends in those pictures.

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mander.xyz

Is there a particular reason to think this is not really his mother? Or is the joke to simply assume that?

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One time Elon posted about how he can't be out of touch because his grandmother was poor, and his "mom" immediately replied and agreed with him, but it sounded like she was confusing his dad's mom with her own mom, so everybody assumes Elon was posting as her and fucked it up.

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mander.xyz

Yes, i wondered the same. I don't want to assume this is correct just because it fits into my worldview.

I did a bit of digging. This post is bullshit. There are multiple photos from the event and the cake around. And the account, as far as is can tell, is run by his mother.

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Plenty of real stuff we can still hate him for though: the video game cheating, transphobia, epstein stuff, transphobia, doge, list goes on

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wulrusreply
lemmy.world

The left and the right are NOT the same. Only one of them works at least in the general direction of a future that can work, for everyone.

But the level of lies, propaganda, deception, gaslighting absolutely is. Every single time I read something implausible, like this, and dig deeper, it turns out to be complete and utter BS, like some left mirror version of Trump. ALL of it.

Again, the lies are on the same level, not the policies.

This photo shows the exact opposite: A heartfelt congratulations post from a mother, a wonderful cake. Note how they decided to lie about this, even though they could easily have talked about the family relation that is NOT intact, his daughter. But no, they don't want to talk about his daughter and how he treats her. They want to smear the mother-son relationship with lies.

And I would also point out that criminals who have not yet been convicted by a court (and never may be in this case, different problem) have the same right to a great birthday party with loving family as everybody else.

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have the same right to a great birthday party with loving family as everybody else.

Of course they have the "right". That doesn't mean anyone has to support it.

But, yes, there are plenty of true reasons to hate and mock this asshole without making shit up.

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lemmy.world

Ngl fam. She looks like she's about to skin 101 dalmatian puppies to make her coat.

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Nah, just some indigenous workers who are under their emerald quota for the day. Dalmatians are so blasé.

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piefed.zip

Not too far from the truth, except she wouldn't do that herself of course.

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piefed.social

She looks evil enough to skin a toddler alive because she needs a dinner napkin

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lemmy.world

Well yeah, there’s only so much you can do to fix mental and personality issues. The things wrong with Elon cannot be fixed by money alone.

For us normal folks though? You just TRY to be unhappy while getting your dick sucked by a supermodel in your million dollar Ferrari parked in front of your mansion the size of a French palace. Physically impossible.

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I disagree - I could easily be unhappy in that scenario and I think I'm pretty normal*. I get that normal is subjective, but I'm not like on medication, or in treatment for anything.

I think I would immediately be really insecure about having to buy sex and how the only reason people love me is my money and I'm incapable of intimacy from a genuine place. I think I would immediately feel shame at having purchased a Ferrari while not knowing anything about cars. I think I would feel guilty having a big house to live in all by myself, and probably would never buy it to begin with.

That isn't to say I couldn't make myself happy with money -I could give a fuckton of it away to worthy causes and basically feel good about myself immediately despite not really working very hard or personally accomplishing much. That feels like a cheat code to me. "Yeah, I didn't lose twenty pounds this year like I wanted or write my novel despite having tons of free time, but I gave away a Billion Dollars to cancer research and another Billion to RAICES and another Billion to the ACLU and another Billion to the Trevor Project. So basically, I'm fucking awesome." But even then, I think over like a decade or similar, the lack of personal involvement would eventually make me embarrassed.

I think that's why hiring sycophants (or now building them from AI) is such a popular remedy for the obscenely wealthy. A chorus of voices to drown out your own insecurity about how you didn't earn it, didn't use to better yourself, didn't find real happiness. And why reality checks drive these people nuts.

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Money doesn't buy happiness, but it's comfier to cry in a Mercedes than a Lada

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lemmy.world

He is only 55! Thats a rough 55 for having all the money in the world. I don't mean go get plastic surgery, but you would think he would be able to take better care of himself. Man, imagine what he would look like if he was never rich? For starters no hair.

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lemmy.world

Rumor has it he tries all the anti-aging experimental stuff, and of course that would take a toll.

Ironic.

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lightnsfwreply
reddthat.com

I heard jumping in a swimming pool with a toaster stops you from aging.

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Too much water. Has to be a bathtub to really get the anti aging working. Also, need to make sure it's not one of those woke GFCI plugs.

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I love watching the anti aging grift the billionaires spend their money on. You can't fight age but you can age healithily. That requires a healthy diet, exercise and stretching which is the one thing they won't try.

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M'twenties

https://public.bnbstatic.com/image-proxy/rs_lg_webp/static/content/square/images/e633bf55be854700a8fd94c26b338640.jpg

The present muskrat is the "good looking, money muskrat". Without the money he would look like a goblin, as his skinsuit tries to match his soul. "Taking better care of himself" could have only been fixing that soul of his.

I know other billionaires are super duper evil too, with fettid insides. I'm saying that's just how much worse his is. The things he wants to do to humanity are top tier, once-every-few-generation horrors. They are so bad, other rich people, thiel not included, just can't keep up.

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aussie.zone

I see no friends and family in those pictures. Even his a.i. generated fantasies make him look like a loser.

(edit: fixed typo. Thanks, hperrin)

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I live in a so-called progressive blue state that has a lot of Democrats. I see more and more of them driving new Teslas around. To me, all Tesla owners—especially those who purchased their vehicle in the last couple years—are just authoritarian Trump supporters. Prove me wrong.

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I live in the south and just spent a week in the PNW. While the lack of lifted trucks was nice, there wereso many damn Cybertucks and model Ys. I rarely see a CT here but they were everywhere out there. It was wild. Beautiful place though.

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Sometimes I feel kinda sorry for him for how alone he is, I can't imagine it, although it's pretty much his own fault for being so terrible.

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lemmy.ml

Don't ever feel bad for a Nazi. It's ok. You're a human and want to think that there is some good or humanity in everyone. It's natural. This is the exact thing that he and Nazis lack though. Don't feel bad.

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sopuli.xyz

No. Do feel bad for them, but do not let that affect your actions against them; let it pass over like a wave. Keeping our humanity intact is important, even if it hurts.

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lemmy.ml

Getting angry when you should get angry is healthy. Punch a Nazi. It keeps your humanity intact.

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sopuli.xyz

Getting angry is only one possible response, people are different, and there is nothing wrong with it. But I agree, we should still punch nazis. But also, it does not have to feel good. No one should force themselves, to become something, they are not.

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lemmy.ml

When met with the crimes of empire, Gaza, Iran, Cuba, and countless more. When met with the crimes of power and wealth, Epstein, Musk, Trump, and countless more. Those that abhorre these acts and those that enact them must make sure that their hate is pure. It is a flaw of the compassionate to extend that same compassion to those that are responsible for the crimes they claim to detest.

It's entirely reasonable to criticize "how people feel". Because their feelings do not remain only their heads. They interact with the world through those feelings. And if their hatred and anger is not pure, if it has doubt, they will advocate to prevent justice.

People can "feel" how ever they want. But when those feelings bring them to telling others to "not punch a Nazi" (symbolically here), in that moment, they are just defending a Nazi from the consequences of their actions and denying justice to victims.

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People can “feel” how ever they want. But when those feelings bring them to telling others to “not punch a Nazi” (symbolically here), in that moment, they are just defending a Nazi from the consequences of their actions and denying justice to victims.

I agree with this fully, though. But nobody here has said not to punch nazis, just told they feel bad about it (figuratively).

My pont is: if you are a soldier on a war front, you do not have to hate the enemy, or their leader, or anyone, to shoot them. You just have to know they will kill you, your family, and destroy your culture, if you do not. Telling people they should feel only pure hatred towards monstrous people seems reasonable, since you are correct they do not share the compassion nor deserve it - but it is not a requirement for fighting against evil. If you cannot hold a steady hand, even knowing faltering will kill your loved ones, kids in gaza, countless other victims or cause some other horrendous thing, you have to find the resolve in you, to do it anyway. But that resolve does not require hatred, it can be even just the love for someone else. If you punch a nazi, the emotion driving your resolve does not matter. What matters is doing it, even if you feel that empathy, because you believe what you are defending, is worth it.

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Hadriscusreply
jlai.lu

For real I may be too sensitive but this post had me feel genuine pity

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If only Elon had a smidgeon of the empathy that you have, he would be a much better person.

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it's like 90% AI generated fondant, the worst possible taste and texture

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I thought themoon base was an ornate bong lol

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lemmy.world

If you read her post with a female evil laughter after the read, it all makes sense.

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I'm 99.9% sure you are right on this. Just to be sure, would anyone mind giving me a few billion dollars for a Brewster's Millions type of experiment?

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lemmy.myserv.one

That cringe is what probably why Epstein and Company didn't want Elon Musky on the island, no matter how bad Elon Musky wanted join.

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can't make fun of him like trump, just slightly too self-aware.

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elon musk must be too Pedo-helialy or wierd to be one with the "normies". he would be like the ones that walmart and amazon wont hire as employees, and they hire anybody.

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his shit rockets have barely made it off the fucking launchpad let alone even getting into space or near the moon. fucking loser.

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sh.itjust.works

FYI, this pic was blocked on voyager. Have no idea why, but it might be a setting?

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Surureply
mander.xyz

I'm also using voyager, and the picture is perfectly visible to me.

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Surureply
mander.xyz

I haven't the faintest. I don't think I've changed any settings since I downloaded the app.

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So Voyager blocks Nazis?

I'll have to check it out.

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lemmy.world

I am mentally retarded and I can tell when I see a fellow retard. He is definitely mentally retarded, but I think a bit more than me, I thank Allah for that.

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JoeBigelowreply
lemmy.ca

Why is removed censored but retard isn't? What about fire retardant? It makes the fire removed, by retardation.

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What do you mean by "removed being censored?

Remove is not a bad word!?

I don't get your comment.

Fire retardant don't stop fires, they retard it, meaning slows it, so in warehouses you have ceiling with fire retardant which slows the spread of fire but doesn't stop it.

A cool tidbit, until recently, I used to think I am intellectually disabled, but I am not, I am just have mental retardation. So I am intelligent and smart just have a slow processing speed

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If you've ever called someone an idiot or moron, that's just as wrong (arguably more wrong) as calling someone a retard. Look up the "euphemism treadmill".

All of these terms were used to describe the same people and fell out of favor when people started using them as pejorative terms.

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