My partner will grow everything out, full pits, full bush and I'm like "Yes! so sexy!" Then she'll decide to shave everything and I'm like "awwww yeah!". Then back to the bush and I'm again stoked.
She's beautiful and sexy no matter what.
I don't hate Bush at all. She's original, and some of her tunes are catchy, I just think that she's taken having a unique vocal style a bit over the line of being silly.
Yeah that context is important, the title is enough to make me write the whole thing off.
I understand why clickbait strategies are common, I am just not the common denominator that they're aimed at. Am I judging a book by its cover? Yes... but I'd also judge 'Notes on How to Skin a Baby' by its cover so... idk.
Comparing men that don't like women's natural bodies to murdering and skinning a baby sure is a choice you made.
It's ok if your kneejerk reaction was to be defensive. It's also ok to re-examine the post and realize that just because you are a man doesn't mean they're talking about you.
I don't care what you think your qualifications are. These three things are true: I love my girlfriend, I am sexually attracted to my girlfriend, I hate pubes. Whatever you think is irrelevant.
I hate pubes because I don't like hair near my mouth in general. I don't ask my girlfriend to shave, she does it because she sees my own reaction when a beard hair gets in my mouth.
Like I said, blanket generalizations are inherently deceitful.
Edit: I used deceitful incorrectly. There is no intent to deceive. It may be deceitful, it may be unintentionally misleading. There is nuance here.
If a beard hair getting in your mouth isn't a strong enough reason for you to shave your beard, then it's not a deal breaker/ you don't hate it.
This is a ridiculous statement. Disliking an aspect of something and putting up with it for other reasons is such a natural thing it makes me wonder if you've ever styled yourself in any other capacity than troglodyte.
For example my girlfriend likes my beard. So I keep it. Because she likes it. You see how that works, cave person?
Part the lips delicately with your index and ring finger, while your middle finger is inside. If you have two fingers inside (middle and ring), use your pinky instead. Your chin should be resting on your palm
I'm a woman who is basically fine with bush but if it's totally untamed just logistically I am going to have to pause from my eating you and/or swallowing you down a lot to pick hairs out of my mouth. But if you're fine with that and I'm into you then I'm more than fine with that too.
People should just find people they're sexually compatible with. No one owes you anything, and you don't owe anyone anything. Just do whatever you want with consenting adults. I don't understand why this concept is so fucking hard? You don't like bush, cool, don't sleep with someone who has one. You like to have a bush? Cool, don't sleep with someone who doesn't like it. Simple as that people. No one decides what they like and what they don't. You can't force someone to like your body, so why even bother? There's plenty people out there who likes you the way you are.
It was a tongue-in-cheek comment about people who legitimately believe that a woman has been raped if she changes her mind during, but never relays that information to the man.
This is the answer in a pragmatic sense, in our day to day. It works, it's fine. The thing is our tastes are not 100% natural and spontaneous, they can be influenced by context, and that context can be problematic. So the extra step these discussions are asking us to do is beyond the pragmatic or useful day to day advice you gave. It is questioning why we have those tastes. "Why don't I like natural cis women?", "Why am I not attracted to black people?", "Why do I refuse to date trans guys?". Etcetera. If we find it is not because of prejudices, societal expectations, 'must be's from unequal societies, or anything like that, then it's an unfortunate coincidence but we can move on. But if we find something like that (those things I listed), it is not necessarily permanent, I think most of the times it can be worked on, changed, and these discussions are also an invitation to do so.
This is the real answer. I mean some compromise is normal and healthy in a relationship, but for the most part everyone just do what you are comfortable with and find people who are good with that
Yep and if people at large could stop commenting on women's body hair publicly, then everyone could be even more focused on finding people they are compatible with <3
This is about people who go out of their way to comment on typically women’s bodies or go out of their way to leave hate comments to women online for having body hair.
I'm mostly refering to some of the comments in this thread. A lot seem to take it very personal that some people might not be into the same thing they are.
I mean, really I don't have a broad preference for or against bush at all...
... but, if you want me to smooch things down there, please tidy up a bit.
I just don't like having a mouth full of hair.
Don't worry, I will tidy up too, for the reverse scenario, if partner also dislikes mouthful of hair, and! ... this also applies to my facial hair... I'm not that attached to it, and it will grow back, if you want to smooch my face but don't like the beard/stache.
Maybe I am lucky in that I at least I think I look decent both with or without a beard/stache.
This is to me completely fair and reciprocal, and ... really is not that conplicated.
Umm, I do, in fact, decide what I like or don't like. That's true for everybody. But I don't decide what you like, and vice versa. So the issue is still that you can't decide for other people what they're into.
How does that work? Especially given the context. As I've understood attraction and what one likes about the other person aren't really changeable? I'm genuinely curious how can that be changed or decided?
And still, hows that supposed to change what one likes?
Of course i can consciously decide to override likes and preferences, but that still doesn't change those. It will still be conscious decision every time.
And giving the current context of sex. As I've understood, we aren't supposed to force that? Like we don't go up to someone who's gay and say why don't you decide to like women, of course some do, but we're not supposed because those likes aren't supposed to be changeable.
I'll grant that, but you know how some ladies prefer a man with a beard? It's sort of the same mentality.
Now to the ladies, who like beards, I ask you: Do you prefer "wild homeless man" or "18th century naval ships captain?"
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That's what I thought, so don't think I'm saying "ignore grooming."
So historically, lice and other parasites were a major vector for diseases like typhus. Particularly when a group of people were forced to sleep in close proximity, such as soldiers in barracks, refugees in tents, a community in a cold climate that would cram in to a single winter shelter, or travelers in a bunk house.
Shaving hair in general was an important method for reducing transmission, as it reduced the space they could hide in. Regular washing of the body. Clean beds with frequently replaced fillers (like straw) and bed linings laundered regularly and between separate users.
One reason many early modern soldiers are depicted as clean shaven was because it became a mandatory practice in many armies to minimize spread of disease. As regular washing, separated sleeping quarters, and regularly washed bedding was not practical for such a large group on the move. Even now, many militaries will shave new recruits to the scalp, to make sure they don’t bring any hair borne parasites in to the barracks. (Later on face shaving became extra important as a way to ensure gas masks would seal properly)
Lots of ways this was mitigated. It’s fairly rare these days due to most people regularly washing, getting parasites like bed bugs or lice exterminated the moment they’re found, and beds that are much less suited to harboring them.
But a lot of the hang ups around body hair are cultural hangers on from a time when this was a much more significant issue. In all likelihood it would become an issue again if society as a whole slackened on many of these practices at once.
I mean, according to a research paper published by Brandeis University and its sources, the whole "women need to be shaved" thing was started by Gillette to sell razors, correlates with perceiving women as younger and a tendency to fetishise youth.
Considering the evolutionary roots, men should feel attracted to female body hair, as it is a secondary sexual characteristic, such as breast size and waist to hip ratio, and hence a sign of sexual maturity and ability to procreate. [...]
Biologically, sexually mature females have body hair, but society has made femininity more connected to youth and pre-pubescence than to a woman’s ability to reproduce.
So if you like them unshaved, that's natural (but no longer normal). If you like them shaved, that's normal (but not natural).
And if you don't like them at all, you're lucky to sidestep that question.
I'm not a man... But also I am not giving head regardless of what you have down there if it's not at least a little shaved. I'm here for sausage not salad
As a man I've always assumed this was the correct approach. I'll keep myself groomed as long as you keep yourself groomed, this always struck me as the respectful thing to do.
Maybe I'm the weird one for always reading all of the comments in a post haha. OP posted the video in a comment and it was immediately clear that this lady was talking about men judging women's body hair publicly.
The Bush jokes seemed like low hanging fruit that no one could resist.
On October 23rd, 2017, [Twitter] user @BravoCoolee made a post that read, "Twitter the only place where well-articulated sentences still get misinterpreted. You can say “I like pancakes” and somebody will say “So you hate waffles?” No bitch. Dats a whole new sentence. Wtf is you talkin about."
no, but considering the types of females that have no hair down there tend to be prepubecent (or have alopecia,) or the women who are concerned about early detection of STI's, it does imply a kind of coding about the men who prefer it, rather than having no preference.
It's supported farther down as a indicator that the man sees women as equating to children, or sees the woman as permiscuous. I promise you that in either case, i'm calling out mysogyny.
It's literally the subject of the thread. taps title also, how would you describe a non adult person with two x chromosomes? There's no such thing as a prepubescent "woman." That's an oxymoron.
I grew up before the whole shaving fad and shaved women look unnatural to me. For some reason I blame the French for this, probably because the first reference to shaving I remember was from the movie Amelie.
Unless you work for the CIA or similar you can't really tell how questionable or not a decision is until the information is made public. The fact that it's questionable in hindsight is even worse than being questionable in the moment when you don't know why they do stuff.
To extent maybe, but not really? I remember very clearly that one of the objections was that both US and UK Governments were refusing to produce any evidence of Saddam's supposed WMDs.
If you want to drag many countries into a major land war of aggression, destabilize a whole region, and cause the deaths of millions, you still need to show your working out first - even if it means jeopardizing an individual operation or two. The fact that it turned out their "evidence" was cooked-up bullshit, is almost secondary.
Is the Iraq war even questionable in hindsight tho? As far as I'm aware, there was basically no reason to go after Iraq other than finishing what Daddy started. Afghanistan I can see it being questionable in hindsight, but Iraq was an unnecessary war from the jump.
Original statement had the "to say the least" attached to it. I think everyone is taking my intentional misuderstanding of what "bush" OP was referring to way too seriously.
I would disagree with your policy. Bush is a beautiful thing. Not only does it provide stunning contrast that perfectly frames their natural beauty, but it also acts as a pheromone diffuser. I love to have my nose resting on a soft bed of perfectly perfumed pillow bush while enjoying a hot meal.
That being said, I am a vocal advocate of bodily autonomy so if they prefer no bush, that's never a problem, but my personal preference is au naturale.
Unshaven, trim the bikini area. I want something to run my fingers through. I love a woman that is womanly. Shaven is boring and childlike, it does nothing for me.
Funny thing. Heard Stormy Daniels run down how the shaved look happened.
Back in DVD days, a porn star could hit the road and tour a lot of strip clubs. She could sell a lot of merchandise and make herself well known. The problem was that a lot of these clubs were in small towns where the cops loved harassing the dancers. A lot of places had laws that said that visible pubic hair was illegal, so a lot of dancers shaved, and they encouraged the porn stars to do the same.
When the shaven ladies got back to shooting, they kept on shaving. Pretty soon that became the standard look in movies and magazines.
Those laws were written long before VHS was a thing. Back in the day they were policing burlesque shows where the ladies might go down to G-string and pasties. The pubic hair thing was a simple test to see if they'd gone too far.
Also, in the bars the dancers might have to keep their G-strings on [laws vary by state] A lot of dancers travel, so it makes sense to be ready for the strictest enforcement
With full respect to Ms Daniels I think it predates DVDs. My first sight (and many others I suspect) was an actress by the name of Seka who was shaving in the 70s and possibly earlier. As she tells it she was an early innovator in glamming up porn with good hair and makeup. Shaving was part of an exotic look.
Fair. And it's true that I haven't watched all the porn that out there, but it was my first sight of naked pudendum. I'm confident it wasn't the first ever. But the 60s and 70s were known as big bush era.
I grew up in the '70s and volunteered at the local recycling center, so I had a collection of literally every porn magazine from back then - Playboy, Penthouse, Hustler, Oui etc. etc. Multiple copies of each issue. Even weird high-quality stuff that showed actual penetration and cumshots and whatnot (big no-nos with the major publications at the time). Not a single bare bush in all of that stuff.
The 1990s British alt-rock band Bush was temporarily known as Bush X only in Canada. They were forced to add the "X" because a 1970s Canadian rock group named Bush (led by Domenic Troiano) already legally held the rights to the name in the Canadian market.
I became sexually active in the early 1990s when the Brazilian look was big in porn, but most women still had full pubes, or if they were fancy, went for the French runway.
So my brain associated the shaved look with porn, and bush with IRL, which messed with my head on the occasion I had a partner who waxed herself clean.
My experience is that bush is easier to maintain and is easier on the skin. Shaving is fun for a single date, but results in a scratchy period and runs the risk of ingrown hairs.
I get ingrown hairs on my legs that I have to manually inspect and release or it will become a pimple like bubble with a mangled hair in it that and sometimes it is painful.
Every time I've tried shaving my junk (even tried Nair once) I've ended up with a minefield of ingrown hairs.
It's 24 hours of "woah, this feels kinda neat" followed by weeks of agony and waiting for the redness to go away. I sometimes get them when I shave my face too, but that's less common. Had one on the top of my head once that made a bald spot about the size of a quarter that took a couple months to grow back in. I had one next to my balls once that became the worst infection I've ever had. Hurt like hell to walk. Had to go to the doctor to get antibiotics because I felt the infection creeping upward toward my midsection. Then once the infection went down enough, I cut it open with a razor blade and dug all the gunk out and it was unbelievably painful and probably the grossest body thing I've ever had to deal with. Had this gaping hole left over afterwards. Still have a scar 20 years later.
Ingrown hairs are a plague upon the body. Consider yourself very lucky.
You know, I decided to look some stuff up after reading this, and there is a fantastic chance it's only because I have relatively thin, straight hair.
I shampoo, I exfoliate. I imagine it would be insane to hear that the razor I use for my face, junk, and limbs is getting a bit scratchy, I probably needed to swap the blade out like a week ago. Getting one ingrown hair, let alone a minefield is just unthinkable to me.
If I had to deal with half of what you do, I either just wouldn't shave or I'd be looking for more permanent methods.
The message of the OP is one I agree with anyway, so it's not like it's a big deal. I hope after 20 years you've settled on a look you like. :p
Why though? My best skill is cunnilingus but with a lot of hair I don't like it, with all the hair in my mouth and I find it unhygienic. Any idea how much bacteria stick to hair? If you want bush that's fine, but don't expect me to go down. I return the same courtesy.
Hair are there for reason my dude. I like some hair down under there because fetish and also to protect myself and my participant from contracting to AIDS.
You can't get AIDS from sex. You can get HIV from sex, which can result in AIDS. What protects you is a condom, not hair. Always have safe sex when at least one of you isn't tested.
If it wasn't for the evidence to the contrary, I would have called Kate Bush a mandela effect. I was born in 82,' but I'd literally NEVER heard of her until the internet lost its' GD mind about how her song showed up in that one Stranger Things episode. AND I'M INTO CLASSIC ROCK
If you're going down on a woman who has a full bush and you're not gagging on hair, you are not doing it enthusiastically enough. People who prefer shaved or a landing strip are objectively better at it, fuckin fight me
Pubic hair is a design feature, it prevents micro-cuts and abrasions and stops abrasions coming in skin to skin contact. Our bodies have pubic hair to prevent direct contact/transmission of blood and fluids. It's not a mistake.
...shaving it off makes sex less safe. It's literally part of sexual health to have some.
This is far from certain but is one hypothesis. Another one is that, like armpit hair it traps scent molecules (mm mmm!) to make you smell sexy.
In any case, like the rest of the hair on our bodies, we've been styling it for millennia (my phone suggested: stroking it, which is probably also true) and probably won't suffer if we get rid of it.
One practical benefit of shaving pubic hair is immunity against pubic lice!
I love bush! Not in the slightest bothered by bush, armpit hair, arm hair, leg hair. I like boobies to have a little sag to them, not perky. I like my ladies to have a little wear and tear from life, love handles, stretch marks. I like someone confident in their body and to not feel like they have to wear makeup for me.
I do have limits, just can't with excessive facial hair. Stained teeth and/or bad breath. Got to clean up have good hygiene. Not do all the above because they are depressed goblin.
I've always been into older women 30-50. At my age I see 29-18 as still children and don't think of them sexually. Probably why I like all that I do, women have a bush, girls are shaved.
Fair, but also a woman (or man) with a mess of hair that has never seen a comb or scissors wouldn't be very attractive (to me, at least), and I think the same of other hair. If I have a beard, it will be shaped. And if I am hoping to have someone put their face by my junk, I am going to make sure the hair is trimmed and tidy. Leg hair and arm hair, unless you have some weird genetic werewolf stuff going on, aren't going to get untidy on their own.
I think it is reasonable to hope or express preference for the same. Not waxed, not shaved, but at least some level of maintenance.
"It takes time and effort to neatly trim and maybe even make a little design"
Alright, I stopped here. This is not what anyone seriously complains about when they're talking about bush. I fully get that ladyscaping is hard work and keeping everything in line can be a pain. But when you've just gone on a rant about men not expecting head, you've got to expect some turn about.
Have you ever tried to shave balls? A harrowing experience. I'm taking my own life, and millions of my little guys lives, into my own hands. Why am I putting a bleeding sack on the line when you can't run some clippers over your mound? Come on.
Oh trust, there are a lot of men who will not touch their tongue to pussy if there's any hair at all.
Have you ever tried to shave balls? A harrowing experience. I’m taking my own life, and millions of my little guys lives, into my own hands. Why am I putting a bleeding sack on the line when you can’t run some clippers over your mound? Come on.
Why is it tit for tat? Couldn't both just not shave and still give head?
To be fair, the shaft is typically mostly hairless, so unless you're going for the balls (which is appreciated obviously) it's not much of a factor. The pussy is under the bush, so if it isn't at least trimmed I'm gonna be getting a lot of hair in my teeth, which is not ideal.
Refusing to go down on trimmed bush is kinda wild, but refusing to go down on an untamed forest isn't all that unreasonable. It can be very distracting.
To be fair, the shaft is typically mostly hairless
It's mostly hairless, but there's definitely hair along the shaft that gets stuck in one's bottom teeth when giving head to a penis-haver. A lot. And the hair that is on the balls and the surrounding area is also distracting, incredibly thick, and can get in the way. It doesn't stop me from sucking dick though.
The pussy is sort of in the middle of the bush, it's easy to get your tongue and mouth in there if you push the hair back a little. And that's only if you're going down on a person that is particularly hairy and letting it grow wild. Again, it's never been enough to stop me, but to each their own.
There's a lot of straight men that are just not giving head. And I think if having a little bush, even if it's like a neat little trim, like we don't necessarily have to be talking about a full garden. If you won't give somebody head because they have, let's say, just like a little peach fuzz, like a nice trim, that's ungrateful because a especially especially if you're expecting um head in return or that's just like your expectation is that if you're hooking up with someone, you're going to get head.
Um ladies, don't be giving nobody head unless they give you head first. That's all I have to say. I also think these people are ungrateful because you're really just not appreciating the time and energy that goes into having a bush, especially if it's a trimmed bush. Um because like that's time, that's thought, that's effort. Like the coochie is the centerpiece. It's the it's God's gift to this green earth. And she took extra time to put some decor on that thing. Like, and think about how much time and energy it takes to grow that full luscious forest. Okay, that in in and of itself, like, think about all the things you could do with that bush. Like, you could literally do arts and crafts with a full forest. Some of y'all are balding. Like, you could really use that hair. So, I think if you're complaining about somebody having a bush, like you just don't understand dedication.
As a lesbian with occasional exceptions, I hate pubic hair on me, and find it off-putting on those I sleep with.
Trimming (with a "bodyhair trimmer") the whole area takes me about one minute once a week (I don't shave, otherwise I get ingrown hairs), and I'm told it's very pleasant like that for a variety of activities
This is about people who go out of their way to comment on typically women's bodies or go out of their way to leave hate comments to women online for having body hair.
I alternate. With my own bush as well as partner's. Sometimes I like bush, sometimes I don't.
I do prefer women to shave everything between their legs though, otherwise things get....uriney....and a quick wipe ain't gonna get that out of the hair down there. Same with butthole hair. But trimming that is usually enough to prevent issues. Don't necessarily need to shave it.
My partner will grow everything out, full pits, full bush and I'm like "Yes! so sexy!" Then she'll decide to shave everything and I'm like "awwww yeah!". Then back to the bush and I'm again stoked. She's beautiful and sexy no matter what.
This is really sweet <3
She is a real asset.
And OP is a real keeper!
I'm assuming you don't mind the razor burn moments in between either.
I don't hate Bush at all. She's original, and some of her tunes are catchy, I just think that she's taken having a unique vocal style a bit over the line of being silly.
Wait, the pubic hair or the president?
Or the band? Or the flora?
Or the beer?
That's Busch
Could we stop trying to resuscitate that man's image? He was a war criminal just like every other president before and after.
I think anyone that makes blanket generalizations is deceitful, what a coincidence.
Exactly. Only a sith deals in absolutes.
I absolutely approve of afro-sized bush to bury my beard in /shrug
You just made a blanket statement too ;)
I'm not sure that I have, actually — blanket generalizations are inherently deceitful.
None of the definitions I can find for blanket generalizations require deceit.
It's simply a fallacy defined by inductive conclusions.
You unintentionally and in good faith made a paradox under the misunderstanding that deceit was required.
You don't need to intend to be deceitful to be deceitful, just like you don't need to intend to kill someone to kill them.
The world is not sweeping absolutes. Painting it as such always obscures some truth, this post is no different.
Edit: I'm just wrong here, I was misusing deceitful.
That's a sweeping absolute, but this conversation is obviously going nowhere, have a good one friend.
Edit: that wasn't fair of me. Let me rethink this response.
Edit2: I recognize the paradox here, I think I was using deceit incorrectly. I accept your responses, thanks for being cordial.
It’s a good thing the person in the video specified she’s taking about men who have the audacity to judge women’s bodies and body hair publicly then.
Since she's talking about a specific subset of men, it's not a blanket generalization.
Yeah that context is important, the title is enough to make me write the whole thing off.
I understand why clickbait strategies are common, I am just not the common denominator that they're aimed at. Am I judging a book by its cover? Yes... but I'd also judge 'Notes on How to Skin a Baby' by its cover so... idk.
Comparing men that don't like women's natural bodies to murdering and skinning a baby sure is a choice you made.
It's ok if your kneejerk reaction was to be defensive. It's also ok to re-examine the post and realize that just because you are a man doesn't mean they're talking about you.
Broad sweeping generalizations are ALWAYS wrong
I wish statements like that made LLMs explode.
YES I fully agree
Nah man. If you hate how it comes naturally, then you don't actually like it.
But I'm a middle aged woman, so I think the 'male gaze' and its judgemental subjugation can fuck all the way off.
I don't care what you think your qualifications are. These three things are true: I love my girlfriend, I am sexually attracted to my girlfriend, I hate pubes. Whatever you think is irrelevant.
"I love you... But only when you go through extra effort to modify yourself for me."
When did I say that?
I hate pubes because I don't like hair near my mouth in general. I don't ask my girlfriend to shave, she does it because she sees my own reaction when a beard hair gets in my mouth.
Like I said, blanket generalizations are inherently deceitful.
Edit: I used deceitful incorrectly. There is no intent to deceive. It may be deceitful, it may be unintentionally misleading. There is nuance here.
If a beard hair getting in your mouth isn't a strong enough reason for you to shave your beard, then it's not a deal breaker/ you don't hate it.
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt that your feelings between your own hairs and hers are similar.
Hold on, what?
This is a ridiculous statement. Disliking an aspect of something and putting up with it for other reasons is such a natural thing it makes me wonder if you've ever styled yourself in any other capacity than troglodyte.
For example my girlfriend likes my beard. So I keep it. Because she likes it. You see how that works, cave person?
I see how you can't distinguish between preference and hatred, yes.
Huh, weird.
Imagine thinking this is a gotcha.
'Hehe, this guy admitted he was wrong about something - fucking owned.'
You're a child, go sit in the corner.
I'm not saying I don't like Bush but it's a little silly to call me ungrateful after the whole Iraq and Afghanistan debacle.
I am saying I don't like Bush
I hate them both, Senior and Junior.
Kate Bush, for the haters
Hate em all, did we really need the brother in Florida messing stuff up too?
I dunno I didn’t listen to any albums after “Sixteen Stone”
i think that was my seventh or eighth album. one of the first ten probably.
Neocons are an interesting bunch of people.
They're a one-hit wonder anyway
I don't like bush, so I shave my own and help my partners when they choose to do so. Everyone wins.
Same. Shaved or well trimmed avoids a mouthful of pubes.
Feel free to grow it into a 1970s afro, but I'm not putting my face down there and weed wacking your untamed garden to the promised land.
My partners public hair will never stop me from ravishing their genitals. Never.
Is it that much that it's now public?
I SAID WHAT I SAID
I’m confused. Are we talking V Bush or W Bush?
Or HW Bush?
Or the band Bush?
V
I'm torn.
I don't want hair in my mouth, but I do like the idea of playing in the jungle.
Part the lips delicately with your index and ring finger, while your middle finger is inside. If you have two fingers inside (middle and ring), use your pinky instead. Your chin should be resting on your palm
Keep the bush out of the valley... Have both worlds.
Fuck, I saw this late and didn't post in time
Thank you for your service Private sad_detective_man... gonna just call you Private Sad-Dick
Yes! New user tag unlocked
Well they are both war criminals who should be tried as traitors, and the whitewashing of their legacies is deeply shameful to say the least.
I'm a woman who is basically fine with bush but if it's totally untamed just logistically I am going to have to pause from my eating you and/or swallowing you down a lot to pick hairs out of my mouth. But if you're fine with that and I'm into you then I'm more than fine with that too.
I learnt from watching cats lick themselves. I just cough up a furball later.
lore accurate lesbian catgirls
People should just find people they're sexually compatible with. No one owes you anything, and you don't owe anyone anything. Just do whatever you want with consenting adults. I don't understand why this concept is so fucking hard? You don't like bush, cool, don't sleep with someone who has one. You like to have a bush? Cool, don't sleep with someone who doesn't like it. Simple as that people. No one decides what they like and what they don't. You can't force someone to like your body, so why even bother? There's plenty people out there who likes you the way you are.
Should this conversation happen prior to the encounter, then?
Nothing wrong with talking about expectations prior to banging.
“Oh you grew up in Phoenix? My family’s in Scottsdale. So, like, do you have pubes?”
Sorry, Scottsdale is a dealbreaker.
I can excuse Scottsdale but I draw the line at Cave Creek.
In theory - yes. But in practice it would be rude and / or ruining the moment.
If the moment can be ruined by something little, it was going to be ruined to begin with.
Not at all
Much more rude to tell a woman you don't want to fuck her after she's taken her clothes off.
sex is physical use body language
This one got me hahah
He doesn't "owe her anything", so...
Never said he did. I’m saying it’s probably better to bring up such a strong preference before clothes come off.
You've forgot another scenario.
Wouldn't that technically mean she's raping you?
What the fuck?
It was a tongue-in-cheek comment about people who legitimately believe that a woman has been raped if she changes her mind during, but never relays that information to the man.
Weeds out the weak quickly lol
If you care enough about it, yes.
If it's actually a total deal breaker for you then ... probably?
Nah, I’ve been married for 22 years, I don’t care anymore. Actually never did.
This is the answer in a pragmatic sense, in our day to day. It works, it's fine. The thing is our tastes are not 100% natural and spontaneous, they can be influenced by context, and that context can be problematic. So the extra step these discussions are asking us to do is beyond the pragmatic or useful day to day advice you gave. It is questioning why we have those tastes. "Why don't I like natural cis women?", "Why am I not attracted to black people?", "Why do I refuse to date trans guys?". Etcetera. If we find it is not because of prejudices, societal expectations, 'must be's from unequal societies, or anything like that, then it's an unfortunate coincidence but we can move on. But if we find something like that (those things I listed), it is not necessarily permanent, I think most of the times it can be worked on, changed, and these discussions are also an invitation to do so.
This is the real answer. I mean some compromise is normal and healthy in a relationship, but for the most part everyone just do what you are comfortable with and find people who are good with that
Yep and if people at large could stop commenting on women's body hair publicly, then everyone could be even more focused on finding people they are compatible with <3
Hahaha, good one 😂
... now I'm sad 😔
pokes your shoulder
Hey, I like you!
How's today going?
Hiii, yesterday was pretty bad, thanks for asking :)
I can give you an internet hug or internet head pats if you would agree to such.
Hope today is less bad.
This is in the intro of the video.
I'm mostly refering to some of the comments in this thread. A lot seem to take it very personal that some people might not be into the same thing they are.
Weird, I'm mostly seeing George Bush jokes.
Here's my approach to this, as a dude:
I mean, really I don't have a broad preference for or against bush at all...
... but, if you want me to smooch things down there, please tidy up a bit.
I just don't like having a mouth full of hair.
Don't worry, I will tidy up too, for the reverse scenario, if partner also dislikes mouthful of hair, and! ... this also applies to my facial hair... I'm not that attached to it, and it will grow back, if you want to smooch my face but don't like the beard/stache.
Maybe I am lucky in that I at least I think I look decent both with or without a beard/stache.
This is to me completely fair and reciprocal, and ... really is not that conplicated.
Umm, I do, in fact, decide what I like or don't like. That's true for everybody. But I don't decide what you like, and vice versa. So the issue is still that you can't decide for other people what they're into.
How does that work? Especially given the context. As I've understood attraction and what one likes about the other person aren't really changeable? I'm genuinely curious how can that be changed or decided?
I don't know - maybe just owning your choices?
And still, hows that supposed to change what one likes?
Of course i can consciously decide to override likes and preferences, but that still doesn't change those. It will still be conscious decision every time.
And giving the current context of sex. As I've understood, we aren't supposed to force that? Like we don't go up to someone who's gay and say why don't you decide to like women, of course some do, but we're not supposed because those likes aren't supposed to be changeable.
big fan of the iraq war ig
Gotta say. I kinda agree. If you're a men that hate the 90s grunge band Bush, you have no soul
This would be even funnier if Bush were a soul band.
Great album
This was the first album I bought with my own money.
Solid investment.
But being against George W Bush is very reasonable.
Bush X was better
Damn 15 hours too late.
Nah, you're right on time 🖖
Incubus did do it better, though.
Got a machine head! It's better than the rest. Green to red, machine head.
This is a horrible pop album full of gibberish, and I grew up in the 90s.
Not knocking the bush but the broader trend of shaving/waxing has reduced the overall rate of pubic lice infestations
I'll grant that, but you know how some ladies prefer a man with a beard? It's sort of the same mentality. Now to the ladies, who like beards, I ask you: Do you prefer "wild homeless man" or "18th century naval ships captain?"
...
That's what I thought, so don't think I'm saying "ignore grooming."
For real?
So historically, lice and other parasites were a major vector for diseases like typhus. Particularly when a group of people were forced to sleep in close proximity, such as soldiers in barracks, refugees in tents, a community in a cold climate that would cram in to a single winter shelter, or travelers in a bunk house.
Shaving hair in general was an important method for reducing transmission, as it reduced the space they could hide in. Regular washing of the body. Clean beds with frequently replaced fillers (like straw) and bed linings laundered regularly and between separate users.
One reason many early modern soldiers are depicted as clean shaven was because it became a mandatory practice in many armies to minimize spread of disease. As regular washing, separated sleeping quarters, and regularly washed bedding was not practical for such a large group on the move. Even now, many militaries will shave new recruits to the scalp, to make sure they don’t bring any hair borne parasites in to the barracks. (Later on face shaving became extra important as a way to ensure gas masks would seal properly)
Lots of ways this was mitigated. It’s fairly rare these days due to most people regularly washing, getting parasites like bed bugs or lice exterminated the moment they’re found, and beds that are much less suited to harboring them.
But a lot of the hang ups around body hair are cultural hangers on from a time when this was a much more significant issue. In all likelihood it would become an issue again if society as a whole slackened on many of these practices at once.
don't worry, we'll always have eyelash mites
If I have eyelash mites and pubic lice, can I get something for the middle of my body so everyone has a friend?
Nah, you just need to get a partner to help you migrate them... or get REALLY flexible
I'm not that flexible, believe me, I already checked.
There are body lice. They latch on to clothing instead of hair.
Nice! Perfect.
Yes. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24825336/
I've read about it on more than one occasion
I mean, they had a pretty okie album. I wouldn't say i hate them.
No she's talking about the family of politicians.
I mean, according to a research paper published by Brandeis University and its sources, the whole "women need to be shaved" thing was started by Gillette to sell razors, correlates with perceiving women as younger and a tendency to fetishise youth.
So if you like them unshaved, that's natural (but no longer normal). If you like them shaved, that's normal (but not natural).
And if you don't like them at all, you're lucky to sidestep that question.
It's so weird when you see that specific subset of men (and to be fair, some women too) whining about how 'body hair is unnatural for women'.
Right? It grows if you don't do anything about it. That's basically the definition of natural.
If they don't find it attractive, they could just say so. It's a subjective taste. Stand by it.
I just like women.
I'm not a man... But also I am not giving head regardless of what you have down there if it's not at least a little shaved. I'm here for sausage not salad
As a man I've always assumed this was the correct approach. I'll keep myself groomed as long as you keep yourself groomed, this always struck me as the respectful thing to do.
I don't think either Bush presidencies were very good TBH.
The endings were pretty great, at least.
Is it wrong to prefer clean shaven now?????
If you watched the video, she is very specifically talking about men who are commenting about women’s body hair publicly.
You can have a preference without telling random women they should shave because it’s your personal preference.
I have a preference for trimmed or hairy, but I don’t tell people that they must quit shaving because I find it more attractive.
How did you watch a video? I only see an un-attributed blurry screenshot.
OP linked it in a comment when they first posted and encouraged people to watch it:
youtube.com/watch?v=OfSvnaMS7KI&pp=ygUSTWVuIHRoYXQgaGF0ZSBidXN2
wait I genuinely thought she was talking about president bush and I tried making a joke lmao
Maybe I'm the weird one for always reading all of the comments in a post haha. OP posted the video in a comment and it was immediately clear that this lady was talking about men judging women's body hair publicly.
The Bush jokes seemed like low hanging fruit that no one could resist.
Who the heck calls body hair bush is my question then?!
Having a preference for A over B is not the same thing as hating B.
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/no-bitch-dats-a-whole-new-x-wtf-is-you-talkin-about
Sadly the twitter is not the only place that happens. It's everywhere
no, but considering the types of females that have no hair down there tend to be prepubecent (or have alopecia,) or the women who are concerned about early detection of STI's, it does imply a kind of coding about the men who prefer it, rather than having no preference.
Females and men.
I was about to agree with you but I reread it. Women is used as well, and the sentence that uses females is about their biology not choice.
Still not accepting the argument about the implication on men’s coding though.
It's supported farther down as a indicator that the man sees women as equating to children, or sees the woman as permiscuous. I promise you that in either case, i'm calling out mysogyny.
There was no need to use "females" at all in that sentence structure.
It's literally the subject of the thread. taps title also, how would you describe a non adult person with two x chromosomes? There's no such thing as a prepubescent "woman." That's an oxymoron.
I grew up before the whole shaving fad and shaved women look unnatural to me. For some reason I blame the French for this, probably because the first reference to shaving I remember was from the movie Amelie.
Thank you for blaming the French, it means a lot to me.
I blame the French for a lot of the shitty spelling conventions in English
French women are notoriously unshaven.
Blame the Brazilians. It's named after them.
I have a strong revulsion for hair in general, especially on my own body.
I cana respect the practical functionality, and of course I defend the autonomy of others.
Using broad strokes on trivial matters to label anyone who dislikes something without considering the nuances is a dick move.
I don't hate him but his foregin policy, especially the Iraq war, was in hindsight questionable to say the least.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/15_February_2003_Iraq_War_protests
Unless you work for the CIA or similar you can't really tell how questionable or not a decision is until the information is made public. The fact that it's questionable in hindsight is even worse than being questionable in the moment when you don't know why they do stuff.
To extent maybe, but not really? I remember very clearly that one of the objections was that both US and UK Governments were refusing to produce any evidence of Saddam's supposed WMDs.
If you want to drag many countries into a major land war of aggression, destabilize a whole region, and cause the deaths of millions, you still need to show your working out first - even if it means jeopardizing an individual operation or two. The fact that it turned out their "evidence" was cooked-up bullshit, is almost secondary.
Is the Iraq war even questionable in hindsight tho? As far as I'm aware, there was basically no reason to go after Iraq other than finishing what Daddy started. Afghanistan I can see it being questionable in hindsight, but Iraq was an unnecessary war from the jump.
Original statement had the "to say the least" attached to it. I think everyone is taking my intentional misuderstanding of what "bush" OP was referring to way too seriously.
My policy is that if you want someone's mouth to go there, you should shave it. This applies to all genders and hair features pretty equally.
I would disagree with your policy. Bush is a beautiful thing. Not only does it provide stunning contrast that perfectly frames their natural beauty, but it also acts as a pheromone diffuser. I love to have my nose resting on a soft bed of perfectly perfumed pillow bush while enjoying a hot meal.
That being said, I am a vocal advocate of bodily autonomy so if they prefer no bush, that's never a problem, but my personal preference is au naturale.
maybe not shave, but trim. it should be well maintained, not a wild plot.
hey some of us want to floss our teeth to evade the judging look of the dentist.
I said trim. An even five feet is better than an inch here and a meter there
Why ? No. I enjoy playing Indiana Jones in the bush.
Yum, sandpaper! /s
prefer something to nothing, but, a nice trim certainly makes going down easier when I don't have to find the part lol
Unshaven, trim the bikini area. I want something to run my fingers through. I love a woman that is womanly. Shaven is boring and childlike, it does nothing for me.
but not when her bush is longer than my actual hair
Ngl I've been giggling at all the men showing up to tell us all about their personal preferences for how women should keep their bodies.
That's like the point of the video - to call out men who publicly comment on how women keep their bodies.
Plus it adds texture when the sexy times start. You guys that are after the bald look are missing out.
Funny thing. Heard Stormy Daniels run down how the shaved look happened.
Back in DVD days, a porn star could hit the road and tour a lot of strip clubs. She could sell a lot of merchandise and make herself well known. The problem was that a lot of these clubs were in small towns where the cops loved harassing the dancers. A lot of places had laws that said that visible pubic hair was illegal, so a lot of dancers shaved, and they encouraged the porn stars to do the same.
When the shaven ladies got back to shooting, they kept on shaving. Pretty soon that became the standard look in movies and magazines.
It's insane to me that the hair is what they had a problem with, and putting your genitals on even fuller display is the loophole.
Think about it.
Those laws were written long before VHS was a thing. Back in the day they were policing burlesque shows where the ladies might go down to G-string and pasties. The pubic hair thing was a simple test to see if they'd gone too far.
Also, in the bars the dancers might have to keep their G-strings on [laws vary by state] A lot of dancers travel, so it makes sense to be ready for the strictest enforcement
With full respect to Ms Daniels I think it predates DVDs. My first sight (and many others I suspect) was an actress by the name of Seka who was shaving in the 70s and possibly earlier. As she tells it she was an early innovator in glamming up porn with good hair and makeup. Shaving was part of an exotic look.
There’s been pubic hair removal going back to ancient Egypt, through Greece and Rome and into modern times.
Fair. And it's true that I haven't watched all the porn that out there, but it was my first sight of naked pudendum. I'm confident it wasn't the first ever. But the 60s and 70s were known as big bush era.
I grew up in the '70s and volunteered at the local recycling center, so I had a collection of literally every porn magazine from back then - Playboy, Penthouse, Hustler, Oui etc. etc. Multiple copies of each issue. Even weird high-quality stuff that showed actual penetration and cumshots and whatnot (big no-nos with the major publications at the time). Not a single bare bush in all of that stuff.
But it's kind of like saying Elvis or The Beatles didn't invent their signature hair styles.
What Ms. Daniels said [and I agree with] is that a lot of porn stars started shaving around the same time and that filtered into the mainstream.
Again, fair. I haven't read Ms Daniel's comments directly. I can fully accept that there was something other than aesthetics driving the change.
Whoa that's such a wild story! Where there's a will, there's a way haha
What's even funnier is that the question that prompted the story was something like 'have you seen porn behavior filtering into the mainstream?'
I think the interviewer was expecting something about clothes...
Hate Bush ❌ Kate Bush ✅
Have you seen Kate Bush's bush?
(I mean the shrubbery, of course.)
Yes. I've see the Kate Bush.
I hated the name Bush X.
The 1990s British alt-rock band Bush was temporarily known as Bush X only in Canada. They were forced to add the "X" because a 1970s Canadian rock group named Bush (led by Domenic Troiano) already legally held the rights to the name in the Canadian market.
Wikipedia
Which bush are we talking about here?
Kate?
George?
Bush? No, thank you. I am an anti-imperialist
I became sexually active in the early 1990s when the Brazilian look was big in porn, but most women still had full pubes, or if they were fancy, went for the French runway.
So my brain associated the shaved look with porn, and bush with IRL, which messed with my head on the occasion I had a partner who waxed herself clean.
My experience is that bush is easier to maintain and is easier on the skin. Shaving is fun for a single date, but results in a scratchy period and runs the risk of ingrown hairs.
Shaved pussy was hot for like a year. Then it got old super quick. Give me a hairy cunt any day! Shit, give me hairy cunts every day!
I have never had an ingrown hair in my life.
I'm sure people get them, but I can't imagine it's that common.
I get ingrown where I don't even remove hair. It's like my hair just wants to get inside again all warm and cosy.
In my case, it's just like my skin doesn't really like having hair save for on my head,
I get ingrown hairs on my legs that I have to manually inspect and release or it will become a pimple like bubble with a mangled hair in it that and sometimes it is painful.
It depends on how your hair grows. Mine is almost flat against my skin, so it gets ingrown frequently if I don't take precautions.
In the aughts, I had a girlfriend who was conflicted, as she loved the feeling of bare skin but would get ingrown hairs in the week or two to follow.
That sucks :p
I wish I knew what I was doing differently. Maybe I just have an X-men outer carapace for skin.
You are blessed.
Every time I've tried shaving my junk (even tried Nair once) I've ended up with a minefield of ingrown hairs.
It's 24 hours of "woah, this feels kinda neat" followed by weeks of agony and waiting for the redness to go away. I sometimes get them when I shave my face too, but that's less common. Had one on the top of my head once that made a bald spot about the size of a quarter that took a couple months to grow back in. I had one next to my balls once that became the worst infection I've ever had. Hurt like hell to walk. Had to go to the doctor to get antibiotics because I felt the infection creeping upward toward my midsection. Then once the infection went down enough, I cut it open with a razor blade and dug all the gunk out and it was unbelievably painful and probably the grossest body thing I've ever had to deal with. Had this gaping hole left over afterwards. Still have a scar 20 years later.
Ingrown hairs are a plague upon the body. Consider yourself very lucky.
You know, I decided to look some stuff up after reading this, and there is a fantastic chance it's only because I have relatively thin, straight hair.
I shampoo, I exfoliate. I imagine it would be insane to hear that the razor I use for my face, junk, and limbs is getting a bit scratchy, I probably needed to swap the blade out like a week ago. Getting one ingrown hair, let alone a minefield is just unthinkable to me.
If I had to deal with half of what you do, I either just wouldn't shave or I'd be looking for more permanent methods.
The message of the OP is one I agree with anyway, so it's not like it's a big deal. I hope after 20 years you've settled on a look you like. :p
Men are against hedges. However... a nice topiary can be appreciated.
Hard take for some, but it's true.
Why though? My best skill is cunnilingus but with a lot of hair I don't like it, with all the hair in my mouth and I find it unhygienic. Any idea how much bacteria stick to hair? If you want bush that's fine, but don't expect me to go down. I return the same courtesy.
Don't lick the hair.
I imagine moses uses the same technique for oral.
Hair are there for reason my dude. I like some hair down under there because fetish and also to protect myself and my participant from contracting to AIDS.
How does hair protect you from AIDS?
You can't get AIDS from sex. You can get HIV from sex, which can result in AIDS. What protects you is a condom, not hair. Always have safe sex when at least one of you isn't tested.
It's magic hair like on Bugonia
I was waiting for the pseudoscience bullshit to start pouring into this post.
Sign yourself up for a remedial health class, cuz that's not how this works at all.
Wait
The whole thing with the gays dieing for years could've been prevented with clippers?
The more you know..
Legit was considering whether this was about having a bush down there or Kate Bush.
I thought it was about Bush, the band.
I thought it was about former President of the United States of America, George W. Bush.
They definitely suck
So do both former 'Murican presidents
Pubes are great!
If it wasn't for the evidence to the contrary, I would have called Kate Bush a mandela effect. I was born in 82,' but I'd literally NEVER heard of her until the internet lost its' GD mind about how her song showed up in that one Stranger Things episode. AND I'M INTO CLASSIC ROCK
If you're going down on a woman who has a full bush and you're not gagging on hair, you are not doing it enthusiastically enough. People who prefer shaved or a landing strip are objectively better at it, fuckin fight me
But they were never a good band.
green to red
Even Billy Corgan admits they were good.
He's wrong
That's not the endorsement he thinks it is.
Are we talking about George W here?
This post is trolling us into asking that
Leave the former Presidents alone!
I was so confused reading the comments initially
I'm going to make the follow-up series, "Women that don't eat my perfectly maintained ass are ungrateful"
Please like and subscribe and eat my booty like groceries
Bush is a war criminal.
The US of A wouldn't survive a third Bush
I think she's right
She has a point tho. Dont know about the deceitfulness but definetly ungrateful.
It’s more like “If you don’t want to trim, that’s ok, but I’m not going down on that.”
Which can be applied to me as well and I will understand.
Pubic hair is a design feature, it prevents micro-cuts and abrasions and stops abrasions coming in skin to skin contact. Our bodies have pubic hair to prevent direct contact/transmission of blood and fluids. It's not a mistake.
...shaving it off makes sex less safe. It's literally part of sexual health to have some.
https://www.healthline.com/health/purpose-of-pubic-hair
This is far from certain but is one hypothesis. Another one is that, like armpit hair it traps scent molecules (mm mmm!) to make you smell sexy.
In any case, like the rest of the hair on our bodies, we've been styling it for millennia (my phone suggested: stroking it, which is probably also true) and probably won't suffer if we get rid of it.
One practical benefit of shaving pubic hair is immunity against pubic lice!
Not only less safe, but less comfortable as well! Stubble rubbing against stubble in that area isn't fun.
I love bush! Not in the slightest bothered by bush, armpit hair, arm hair, leg hair. I like boobies to have a little sag to them, not perky. I like my ladies to have a little wear and tear from life, love handles, stretch marks. I like someone confident in their body and to not feel like they have to wear makeup for me.
I do have limits, just can't with excessive facial hair. Stained teeth and/or bad breath. Got to clean up have good hygiene. Not do all the above because they are depressed goblin.
I've always been into older women 30-50. At my age I see 29-18 as still children and don't think of them sexually. Probably why I like all that I do, women have a bush, girls are shaved.
Fair, but also a woman (or man) with a mess of hair that has never seen a comb or scissors wouldn't be very attractive (to me, at least), and I think the same of other hair. If I have a beard, it will be shaped. And if I am hoping to have someone put their face by my junk, I am going to make sure the hair is trimmed and tidy. Leg hair and arm hair, unless you have some weird genetic werewolf stuff going on, aren't going to get untidy on their own.
I think it is reasonable to hope or express preference for the same. Not waxed, not shaved, but at least some level of maintenance.
I'm not a fan of bush, but I dont shave mine so I'm not gonna judge if she doesn't either
She might have a point. Maybe you don't discriminate
Oh man...do we need clarification on what we're talking about here or what? For the record however, I LOVE bush, and can't stand Bush.
I recommend actually listening to the video. Her arguments are very compelling: youtube.com/watch?v=OfSvnaMS7KI&pp=ygUSTWVuIHRoYXQgaGF0ZSBidXN2
I just don't like hair in my teeth
(This is 13 min long, Christ Lady)
"It takes time and effort to neatly trim and maybe even make a little design"
Alright, I stopped here. This is not what anyone seriously complains about when they're talking about bush. I fully get that ladyscaping is hard work and keeping everything in line can be a pain. But when you've just gone on a rant about men not expecting head, you've got to expect some turn about.
Have you ever tried to shave balls? A harrowing experience. I'm taking my own life, and millions of my little guys lives, into my own hands. Why am I putting a bleeding sack on the line when you can't run some clippers over your mound? Come on.
Oh trust, there are a lot of men who will not touch their tongue to pussy if there's any hair at all.
Why is it tit for tat? Couldn't both just not shave and still give head?
To be fair, the shaft is typically mostly hairless, so unless you're going for the balls (which is appreciated obviously) it's not much of a factor. The pussy is under the bush, so if it isn't at least trimmed I'm gonna be getting a lot of hair in my teeth, which is not ideal.
Refusing to go down on trimmed bush is kinda wild, but refusing to go down on an untamed forest isn't all that unreasonable. It can be very distracting.
It's mostly hairless, but there's definitely hair along the shaft that gets stuck in one's bottom teeth when giving head to a penis-haver. A lot. And the hair that is on the balls and the surrounding area is also distracting, incredibly thick, and can get in the way. It doesn't stop me from sucking dick though.
The pussy is sort of in the middle of the bush, it's easy to get your tongue and mouth in there if you push the hair back a little. And that's only if you're going down on a person that is particularly hairy and letting it grow wild. Again, it's never been enough to stop me, but to each their own.
Shaving your balls isn't even difficult if you use a cartridge razer. Are using a straight edge or safety razer???
Safety razor works fine for me.
Oh I think I love this woman hahaha
Their loss. ¯\(ツ)/¯
I mean, I don't have any problem with women who don't trim their hedges. I just don't want to sleep with them
More for me :)
I wish you the best with them!
They're in good hands ;)
A hard disagree from me.
As a lesbian with occasional exceptions, I hate pubic hair on me, and find it off-putting on those I sleep with.
Trimming (with a "bodyhair trimmer") the whole area takes me about one minute once a week (I don't shave, otherwise I get ingrown hairs), and I'm told it's very pleasant like that for a variety of activities
I'm interested to see how this goes in here.
I legit thought this was about George W Bush
Did you not even open the thumbnail?
No, I was high.
Apologies. No hostility was intended.
I was also high and poking fun, no hostility here either lol
How would I know until I see with or without bush irl.
Hate Bush but support bush
Having a bush: honest, guileless.
"I meant GEORGE, girl."
relevant song
https://youtu.be/fro-_6GijzE
I like bush
We're talking George W., Kate, the band or genitalia?
Nope, hedges.
I looks hairy and scary and I ain’t going in there without a miner’s light and a 2 x 4 strapped to my ass!
Trust me you don't want to be sleeping with women who want to strap things to your ass
Uh strap on to your ass literally only happens with women, self owned
I alternate. With my own bush as well as partner's. Sometimes I like bush, sometimes I don't.
I do prefer women to shave everything between their legs though, otherwise things get....uriney....and a quick wipe ain't gonna get that out of the hair down there. Same with butthole hair. But trimming that is usually enough to prevent issues. Don't necessarily need to shave it.
Just shave a little is all I demand.
Edit: no humour in this thread