Spyke
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lemmy.world

This really is it. Sure, a high water ratio soup would provide both nourishment and fluids for living, but basic clean water allows for cleaning and the ability to grow food or trade for other stuff.

Plus truly unlimited means you can start your own river to help society recover!

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pdxfedreply
lemmy.world

We're putting Gatorade on the crops and they don't grow. Ground is broken!

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I would never have imagined I would witness this becoming our reality but it looks more and more like it.

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lemmy.zip

If you are going that route: Rule of 3

3 minutes without oxygen. 3 days without water. 3 weeks without food (I think it is also "3 hours without shelter" but that is a much more environmental factor and feels shoehorned in). And, depending on the apocalypse, clean air can be hard to come by.

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Yeah, obviously need the first that that will kill you. We take breathable air for granted. But if you need an infinite supply of clean air, you are probably dead anyway. An infinite supply of water has many uses beyond drinking and hygine -- irrigation, power, and cooling come to mind as very useful post-apocalypse.

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lemmy.world

What flavor of apocalypse matters a lot. If it's zombies, ammo becomes critical. If it's nuclear, ammo is less important and water filtration probably becomes critical. If it's a gigantic asteroid that blots out the sun, water is easy to find but food is critical.

For an unknown apocalypse, I think I'll go with gasoline. Not critical in and of itself, but helps a lot more generally with a lot of stuff, being able to power a generator and move camp more easily.

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yeehawreply
lemmy.ca

What if it's like impact winter? Asteroid, forever blocked out sun, winter, and vampires.

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lemmy.world

Enough gasoline could blow the asteroid up, preventing the whole thing. Forever blocked sun means no food but with gasoline you can power lamps for the plants. Burn gasoline to keep warm against the winter and burn vampires using gasoline. It is a christian invention after all /s

Gasoline doesn't seem like a bad choice tbh. Also good for trading if, for example, water is scarce.

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jonesey71reply
lemmus.org

Ah, but the question is "post-apocalypse" so avoiding it isn't really an option. If it were just "slightly pre-apocalypse" you might have a chance to avoid it.

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lemmy.world

In the zombie variation, might want to cheat the system and ask for loaded guns. Because guns wear out and get jammed sometimes.

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If it's a gigantic asteroid that blots out the sun, water is easy to find but food is critical.

Well, no, (liquid) water would be quite scarce :P

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Milk, given an unlimited supply i won't have to worry about it spoiling. Gives a decent amount of nutrients and water and can use it to make cheese or butter eventually, And is a life without cheese and butter really worth living?

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And is a life without cheese and butter really worth living?

Shit you got me there, milk it is!

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Sergioreply
piefed.social

Evil Genie: "Granted." It starts to rain. It never stops.

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"I've seen drier days on Ferenginar. And we have a hundred seventy-eight different words for rain. Right now it's glebbening out there. And that's bad."

  • Quark
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FiveMacsreply
lemmy.ca

thank you for being on this platform and being so positive. I enjoy seeing your posts and they somehow give me motivation to keep my chin up and be more outgoing with someone I recently met at the dog park who's acting curiously shy and different from most people.

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slrpnk.net

I second the sentiment. You and other frequent posters of delightful posts help this place to feel more like a community. It's also nice because you make me reflect on my own online presence in a manner that provides a positive pressure to be the kind of person I value in my community; I see usernames like yours crop up again and again, and when I find myself noticing that organically, it makes me wonder what kinds of patterns people notice across my own comments — it's introspective, but in a good way

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Fresh, hot pizza from Ray's.

Not fresh at the time of the apocalypse. Fresh at the time I seek it.

Of course that would mean I would also get a steady supply of clean water and of all the ingredients required to make the pizza. But that is simply a secondary side effect of having made my choice for the one, single thing.

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lemmy.world

Toilet paper. During apocalyptic scenarios, it's worth is apparently uncountable, so I will be able to trade it and live a life of opulence.

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Can't believe I had to scroll this far to finally see the first item to disappear in every real apocalypse I've been through. Plus it's man's greatest invention. Just ahead of the Hubble space telescope.

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IninewCrowreply
lemmy.ca

Got that covered .... I'm still going through my excess toilet paper supply I bought during the start of the 2020 pandemic. When people started clearing the shelves of toilet paper, we panicked and bought several whole cases of the stuff. It was completely insane.

I haven't bought toilet paper in five years.

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And a bad problem. If you are panic buying anything for the apocalypse, you're not prepared for the apocalypse. I have a "minimum" amount of TP I'll let the house get down to before buying more. My partner is a teacher and so during the winter months when we're both not home we go through it at a glacial pace. We had plenty to last even when we were wfh. Never worried.

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You expect the guy who bought cases of toilet paper to worry about wasting it?

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I recommend you consider baby wipes and invest in an apocalyptic marketing campaign that praises the variety of usages in face, neck, armpit, crotch and butt wiping.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

All you big brains saying water.

My first thought was soybeans, since they're so versatile. Or corn for the same reason. Granted, I don't have any way to process them so I didn't think it through.

But a food source that also provides water would be a good idea. Watermelon is too sweet to be your primary food though.

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Rhaedasreply
fedia.io

Food sources don't provide water unless there is water to grow them, and if the water is contaminated that will just end up in the food.

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Potatoes are the best. Easy to grow in marginal soil, varied ways to cook them, and they store easily long term in a simple root cellar.

Add in some squash like pumpkins which have the same advantages and you should be good to go.

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Ive heard if you need to survive, potatoes, radishes, and beans do really well.

Personally ive had more luck with radishes and beans. They grow quick in just about anything. I keep killing my Potatos!

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Haven't seen that one yet. I can vouch for a watermelon feta salad, or grilled watermelon with chili flakes, though.

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T00l_shedreply
lemmy.world

Sorry to be pedantic, but potable water, but yes, that is the correct choice.

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Iodized salt. I live in iowa, we have planty of water (i can figure out how to filter it), and a great climate for growing food. However our soilis naturaly low iodine and there is no salt around so those are critical nutriants I don't think I could get here.

second would be iron - we don't have any and It is usefur for a lot.

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lemmy.world

Army MREs, the modern ones.

Assuming I'm not teleported elsewhere, the place I live has plenty of drinkable fresh water and other supplies, so the only real concern is having consistent high-quality food available, and MREs are engineered to support people in the wild for several months, if not years. In case of a major war breaking out, so it would contain everything I would need to stay alive, or to trade to other people.

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lemmy.world

I mean, they are chock full of all sorts of preservatives to extend their shelf life, but they also have things like toilet paper and wipes, spoons and forks, heating pads, and various other things, and they can be eaten cold if there's some reason not to start a fire.

That being said, you can live a very long life eating only MREs. It's not like if you only ate them for three weeks you would die. You might have some malnourishment, and you might desperately long for something else, but it wouldn't be the nutrition issue that would kill you. They are designed to keep people alive in situations where bullets are an occupational hazard.

But if I have an infinite supply of them and they are fresh, then when I encounter people that are starving I can trade it to them for bullets or knives or I can just give them away. Could probably save a lot of lives by being a food producer capable of keeping people alive.

The largest risk I would face would be growing tired of the assortment.

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Yeah, not sure what OP's talking about. Any diet involving a reasonably fresh, large assortment of ingredients will keep you going until you die of old people stuff (maybe early, if it's really that bad).

If you eat only hardtack or only rice, that's when deficiencies become a concern. We're really quite hearty animals.

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lemmy.world

Electricity would be tempting. If you have access to water, you can boil it to make it safe. Run a refrigerator to store food. A convenient source of heat for cooking. Stay warm in the winter, stay cool in the summer. Lights for when it's dark. Use power tools to build things. Listen to music, watch movies, play those old Nintendo games.

Even after some time when your electronics break down and scavenging working ones gets tough, it's not difficult to build things like simple resistive heaters. Making crude incandescent light bulbs wouldn't be impossible either.

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How about "fully staffed, fully functional nuclear reactors"? All the staff could come in handy for rebuilding like everything

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Easy answers first. Potable water! You need it every day, helps with sanitation, growing food, etc.

If you wanted more like discrete consumable objects, keflex.

Edit: Or salt!

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

nobody has said rice or potatoes or anything like that. you're all completely fucked

also cum

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Makhnoreply
lemmy.world

also cum

Got that in droves. Ima protein shot dispenser

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sh.itjust.works

Pregnant women. Because they're hot and their milk supply is easy to induce.

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Beans. Not only about the most important food source, legumes are also natural nitrogen fixers for soil health.

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lemmy.world

Not a single mention of bullets? Seriously?

In an apocalypse, ammunition will be worth more than gold.

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lemmy.ca

Maybe in a zombie apocalypse, but what are you gonna do with bullets in a regular apocalypse?

You may be the only person you'll ever see for years at a time. You can't drink them, you can't plant them, you can't build with them.

You could probably use them on yourself if you've got a gun that they work in, though, especially if that's the only one item you decided to choose for long-term survival. 😮

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Psythikreply
lemmy.world

The bullets aren't for the zombies...

They wouldn't be much of an issue after a year anyway, but ammo will still be extremely valuable, especially if you're trying to rebuild society. Gonna need something to defend yourself with against invasions from rival gangs.

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Gonna need something to defend yourself with against invasions from rival gangs.

Bullets won't protect you against an intentionally set fire to your home or base. Without laws, it won't be gun vs gun situation.

That said, it would really depend on the type of apocalypse we're talking about.

Massive natural disaster? Nuclear? Pandemic? "Zombies"? Global drought? A breakdown of society?

Bullets might be fine depending on the situation. You might not even survive long enough to use them.

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lemmy.world

Will "fully equipped cruize ship" count as one item? Then I can scavenge them for all parts required to build new civilization.

And if it is not, then question to OP, what is the limit for the composite items to stop being counted as one item?

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You guys were smart to say water, first thing I thought of when I read the question though was peanut butter.

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Heroin. Either build an army of addicts who're completely loyal to me or I can just off myself depending on how things are going.

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Post-apocalyptic enough for that item not to be 7.62x51?

Lighter is a good choice, but I'm thinking toilet paper rolls for bartering.

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A) Something to trade (rely on others)

B) Something for ME to survive on (rely on nobody)

C) Something to rebuild (everyone relies on me)

I generally lean towards rebuilding, but it really depends on what apocalypse we're talking about here. Zombie? Nuclear war? Asteroid? Nazis? Waterworld?

So, assuming I can survive enough, I'd pick rebuild critical tech like rubber or a way to forge steel or a critical chemical. Think, "Doctor Stone".

But if I need to survive like a water world or a desert world or a zombie outbreak, what I pick is going to be pretty fucking different. Cigarettes don't mean shit if there's no water. Water don't mean shit if that's all you have. And none of that matters if you're stuck in a world with aerosolized zombie infection that results in smart running zombies that fast heal.

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a thermos of fruit smoothies that is forever cold and will not run out. This kinda work with all kind of apocalypse because foods and drinks is the number 1 thing that would hard to come by, and smoothie is both food and water.

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Ongoing? Fresh clean salad 🥗. This assumes I can scrounge/ kill/ for other kinds of food. It implies there's a source somewhere, so perhaps I could trace it, for water and arable land. It contains clean water, and while lettuces are not a super food they have C which I can't store and K which is good for cuts. And if necessary I could wipe my ass with a leaf of it .

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Flour. Maybe rice. Something of that nature. The only alternative option that's even close to food might be fuel, depending on the nature of the disaster.

Water is everywhere outside of deserts, and there's enough raw materials for a thinned population to recycle for a long time. Food and medicine is what separates the living from the dead, and medicine isn't a single item. Edit: Although antibiotics or water treatment tablets are probably the closest approximation.

Pleasantly surprised to not see more throwing star-type answers.

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lemmy.world

malted barley In the end of the world, or even just at the collapse of civilization as we know it, these can be used to make beer. Yeast is naturally occurring, hops just grow on vines, but malting grains seems to be the hardest part of the process to me.

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Ok so some people are asking what type of apocalypse but I feel that's mostly irrelevant because you said it's a post apocalypse scenario. The apocalypse has already passed.

So there's kind of two options. One is where I would be the sole survivor on the planet, and the other is where there's still pockets of survivors out there.

Most post apocalypse situations involve other people surviving, so I'll start there.

You didn't put a limiter on what the item could be, whether it had to be realistic or not, and how this supply would come to be. So I'll give three answers, each with different degrees of what I'm assuming your intention behind the question is.

The first would be an infinite supply of non tricky, non malevolent genie lamps. Infinite wishes baybee, this trumps pretty much everything.

Something more fantastic but more reasonably grounded would be computers, with a complete set of data on human history, art, music, science and schematics, with instructions on how to rebuild society in a more equitable way, translated into all languages possible, with a pictogram of how to charge it up etched on the outside. Pass those suckers around, rebuild society, got infinite of them, everyone gets one and it has the windows space pinball from the 90s on it just for fun.

But since you said lighters, to play with the idea of things that exist, I'm gonna go with tents. Probably those onion shaped ones that are designed to be permanent housing, or yurts. Sure water and food are important but without shelter you're fucked, and I could house everyone.

Now if it were an apocalypse where I'm the only survivor, I would want an infinite supply of one thing.

BACKUP. GLASSES.

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Paper, good for lighting fires and keeping people honest. Also I'm guessing pretty hard to make

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Sorta depends on the apocalypse but for most I will take the airline bottles of a high end vodka.

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lemmy.today

Mainly maps, but also other informative reading materials such as natural medicine, almanacs and other foraging guides.

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lb_oreply
lemmy.world

Condition is infinite supply of one item. You have to choose printed Wikipedia book for it to be one item.

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bitjunkiereply
lemmy.world

The surface of the planet is now covered in a 30-foot-thick layer of paper. All survivors have been crushed to death.

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Oh sorry lol, I'll just go over here and fuck myself then..

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Something like Soylent. You can live off of it for a very, very long time. Enough time to get your garden growing.

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Potable water is good, perhaps wheat berries or ibuprofen would be good too.

As for an unorthodox answer, I'm going to say survival guides. Most people have some idea of how they might survive, but it couldn't hurt to have a resource to fill any knowledge gaps.

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I choose an unlimited supply of cell-phone minutes so I can say "told you so" to all the apocalypses deniers.

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ammunition could get you anything you could need. drinking water would be a second i guess, but you could with effort gather drinkable water.

ammunition is heavy, but no where near as heavy as water for trading purposes,

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