OP is shocked that an import tax is not paid by the exporter
Was he actually thinking that those $450 were just gifted by the exporter?
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Was he actually thinking that those $450 were just gifted by the exporter?
Is the satisfaction of making dear leader and his rich friends richer not enough for you?
I bet he didn't even say thank you for the opportunity to
führerfurther line their pocketsHahaha thank you for the laugh and not only with the golden call back to Zelenskyy!
Bro... dear leader is sending everyone $2000 for how rich the tariffs made him, and he doesn't even need congressional approval to do so.. much like blowing up random boats in international waters and attempting to steal Greenland.
Lol sure he is
He must be a domestic terrorist or something if he's not unequivocally grateful for the opportunity to personally enrich dear leader!
In theory by making him not buy from a Spanish supplier and choosing a cheaper American one (given the tariffs), strengthening America's industry, creating a stronger economy that leads to prosperity, better education, healthcare, habitation and salaries.
IN THEORY
of course, a core part of that would be using the tarriff income to subsidize domestic production (and like, helping domestic producers start to exist AT ALL), but uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
This is literally how tariffs work. They don’t benefit you. They fuck you in your anus. We tried to tell you.
It's all those woke economists' fault (and literally anyone else who understands anything)!
Oof, what an oxymoron 🤣
Wokenomics!
If all the SMART people weren’t so WOKE then MAYBE I’d listen to them and we’d get some ACTUAL WORK done around here!!!
(Sorry to steal your comment, BigMacHole)
Thanks Obama!
For fairness here, tarrifs can be beneficial and useful when specifically targeted at industries which you can compete globally in with commensurate subsidies. In other words, universal tarrifs is the same as shooting your own nuts off, but targeted tarrifs can be helpful in growing specific industries you can grow.
All tarrifs are paid by the population of the country doing the tarrifing, but when it's well thought out and specifically targeted it can be a good thing.
Lastly, for clarity, fuck trump, what he's doing is incredibly stupid and will only hurt US citizens.
It's also incredibly stupid that they tariff components.
If a US company wants to build a dishwasher then they're probably going to have to buy some parts from China, because the US lacks vertical integration, except they're not going to because those parts are also tariffed. So you might as well just make the dishwasher in China and pay a single tariff on the whole thing.
Is it possible that the Trump administration is just made up of idiots?
Possible? Donald Jesus Trump or his fapostles idiots? How could it be???
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Possible? Donald Jesus Trump or his fapostles idiots? How could it be???
Also: I think it would make more sense for those targeted tariffs to be one of the last steps in creating a home-grown industry, and not one of the first. Rather than slapping down some tariffs and hoping that your captains of industry will build the infrastructure to meet the demand, you'd instead want to subsidize the industry first, and only put the tariffs in place to curb imports once domestic production has ramped up. By applying the tariffs first, you're just taxing your population with no incentive for change, because the demand doesn't disappear while waiting for the industry to be built, and the people who might do the building can just pass the import costs on to the consumer anyhow.
Don't forget the damage done by being so wildly inconsistent in maintaining the policy. MAYBE someone would invest in building production to take advantage of the tariff protections. However when you cancel the tariffs a month later, then reinstate them, then lower them, raise them, cancel them, and renew them again like a child mashing buttons, nobody will EVER invest in national production because they can't expect those tariffs to still be there when the factories are ready. Trump would have to actively try to do more economic damage than he has already.
Now you're thinking with tarrifs!
Aren't taxes supposed to be paid according to the "tax incidence", which depends on the elasticity of supply and demand? (Basically, how easy it is for respectively the seller and the buyer to find alternatives?) I guess that since a lot of products dont have domestic alternatives, US buyers have few alternatives, whereas foreign sellers have many (they dont necessarily have to sell to the US). As a result, yes, the US buyer will be paying most of the tariffs?
"But...I didn't think it would be my anus!"
Leopards at my anus.
Seen that one
Sound like a Chuck Tingle novel.
‘Fucked in the Ass by Tariffs’
If they fucked me in the I'd at least have a good time. They fuck me in the wallet, which hurts a lot and not in a sexy way.
wish they did 😔
Sadly there are tariffs on those toys too. :(
You have to pay extra to get fucked.
😔
Let them do their own research now.
At first you think he may just be naive of how tarrifs work. Which is still true, but it doesn't explicitly label him as maga.
Then he says this....
And there it is. The selfish attitude that tells me he voted for this exact outcome without a clue what that outcome actually was. Just voted for his team, and didn't bother with the details. Oh well. Have the day you voted for.
Not only that but imagine if he was right and the seller paid the tariff, does he honestly think they would just eat the loss?
He thinks mexico paid for the wall.
He thinks the wall was fully built years ago in trumps first term.
He believes trump tells the truth.
In other words, he did "his own research", which consisted of believing his own biases, and confirming them in an echo chamber.
It's amazing how some people still don't fully grasp that Trump supporters don't look at the world, they just look at Trump to tell them what they would see if they did.
no they actually look at fox, and even what some right wing grifter tells them. trump is just there as "eye candy" for these companies and people.
What you mad at lil bro? that's called making america great again! Next time you order your equipment from USA 🏈🦅
"But they don't make it here, everything is offshored."
"Oh, well, should have thought of that first."
Happens every time, dang it
And the thing made in US is 22% more expensive because all the parts and pieces needed to build it had the same 22% tariff.
It is all paid by the consumers.
Okay so pretend they are right, pretend that the Spanish manufacturer pays the tariff:
Do you think they will still sell it at the same price if they had to pay $450? They'd just charge you more to cover their fees, lmfao.
Edit: Oh someone here already commented this, oops
Maybe they assumed it was built into the price already.
So, one of the few countries in the western world (don't know enough to generalize more) that never includes the taxes in the prices, but somehow they expected the tariffs to be included in the price...
PS: This is not a dig at you, it is because surely you are right about their expectation in many cases...
Everything is confusing, so I don't really blame people.
Some platforms you pay tariffs inclusive of price (rare, but I have seen it), most you pay at checkout like a tax line item, others you get a bill from the shipper. And sometimes you think your ordering something from China but it's actually shipped from a domestic warehouse so the tariffs were already paid.
If this is their business, I imagine they are aware of the pricing of this stuff, and would know what it costs prior to tariffs
I don't think I could find a Spanish person, except perhaps a child, who didn't understand the concept of an import tax. How are Americans so goddamn stupid that they don't understand something that simple.
It's a tax, in the United States, imposed by the president of the United States, why the fuck would a Spanish company pay it?
Because that's what the idiot president told his idiot voters and they were too dumb to know he was wrong. They think he's smart because he has money
Because AFAIK the US republicans dismantled education as much as they could and now they have a bunch of absolute dummies running around.
Just as planned. And just as planned this gave the republicans more power.
Nah, that's no excuse here. This is an adult. I don't know how old they are, but I was taught about taxes and tariffs in school at two or three different ages. They were a big part of the American Revolution.
There are plenty of places that still talk about "the War of Northern Aggression", quality of education varies WILDLY between states.
That's why the media uses the term "tariffs" and describes them as being "imposed on {country X}". That lets the people who desperately want their masters to be in the right to imagine foreign countries are being bullied into writing big checks.
Wow, Thanks for that, I had completely missed this piece of Consent Manufacturing and I tend to be aware of them.
Because it's a cult. You believe whatever nonsense the leader tells you to in order to be a member, and you want to stay a member because it fills some psychological need within you.
Enjoy the tariffs idiot.
Aside from everything else, apparently this guy doesn't understand how "Asking for a friend" is supposed to work.
How do I ask for a friend?
Asking for a friend.
Ive seen that / swim used as 'totally embarrassed that i was that dumb' before. I think its that?
Sure, but you still have to respect the form of the statement. You have to pretend that something happened to someone else.
For example: "How would someone remove a 4 1/2 inch cylinder that's stuck in an m&m minis tube. Asking for a friend."
Not: "I got my dick stuck in an m&m minis tube, how do I get it out? Asking for a friend."
Everyone knows that you're talking about yourself, but you're supposed to pretend that it's your friend who's the idiot.
Swim?
"somebody who isn't me", in a tongue-in-cheek way.
Maybe they think it means looking/asking for a friendly person.
Could be.
Well, I think everything so far that we know about them point to them not being the sharpest tack in the box.
They're not even in the box, they were rejected by quality assurance for being so unbelievably blunt
which is himself.
Surprise! You're being taxed. They use tariffs because you don't know what the word means
...and how would it have benefited you, if the seller had to pay it? They would either increase the price for you or never have made the deal.
Even the thing you expected would have been stupid for you 🤣
They probaly thought the seller would pay without raising the price. A lot of these folks don't know how tariffs work in the first place and when the orange one said it would punish other countries for being unfair to the US they assumed the seller would recognize the error of their ways and foot the bill while keeping the price the same to stay competitive.
Folks that make complaints like this on social media don't seem prone to thinking the consequences of an action through...
But this is the key piece of information MAGA fails to realize: if you make things more expensive for the manufacturer, the price goes up so they can remain profitable.
MAGAs love the idea of Trump using tariffs to "punish" the countries they don't like until they find out that those countries don't actually pay the tariffs. The consumer does.
Absolutely, but what I find particularly frustrating is their lack of understanding about how businesses always pass on operating costs. They must factor all these expenses into the price of goods, so even if they somehow managed to make foreign manufacturers pay the tariffs, the price of said products would still reflect their production costs.
The argument by even supposedly slightly saner folks like Besset was all companies would absorb the cost and therefore win win and to be fair many of them have.
https://www.forbes.com/councils/forbesbusinesscouncil/2025/06/25/what-b2b-businesses-should-consider-before-absorbing-tariff-costs/
https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/scott-bessent-is-underestimating-the-risk-of-a-us-treasury-selloff-by-desmond-lachman-2026-01
In this case the OP is just an idiot
But they were supposed to pay it to show him kindness.
The problem with people like this is NOT the fact that they were dumb enough to believe Trump's lies about tariffs.
The real problem is them crying more about having to pay the tariffs themselves than about having been blatantly lied to.
They’ll find some way to blame Kamala for it, don’t worry
how could you not impose tariffs if Kamala did run, i mean it is logic
The propaganda on tariffs is that foreign imports are bad and domestic manufacturing is good. And plenty of the conservative community accepts this, because they aren't trying to buy direct from overseas. This guy is an outlier - a MAGA dude who is attempting to import a $2000 widget from Spain for whatever reason - and not representative of the average American voter.
Trump's statements on tariffs aren't even strictly false. Businesses can and do shave their margins, eating some percentage of the cost of tariffs, in order to keep their bulk exports competitive. You're just not going to see that happen on a one-off specialty import, because the guy in Spain isn't trying to be competitive at scale with a rival US industry.
We're already seeing more high value manufacturing happening within the US to evade Trump's tariffs. US tariffs on Japanese imports during the 1987 trade war brought electronics and auto manufacturing into the country in the same way. That's why we've been building Toyota Cars in Kentucky for decades.
Now we're seeing Samsung and LG planning plants in the US. We're seeing the same from BMW and Volkswagon. Is this smart trade policy? Feel free to inject your own economic orthodoxy below. But to say its not working as intended... No. The US has enormous influence in global trade. What Trump's doing has absolutely reversed the flow of manufacturer outsourcing.
Right, but you put the tariffs in place after you have the domestic manufacturing capabilities, not before.
When you can attract large foreign investments, the order matters less. You'll experience more pain by imposing tariffs first and building out infrastructure second. But we're governed by a party that seems to relish in the pain of their constituents. So this might be more of a feature than a bug.
It's interesting that you openly call it propaganda, and then go on to parrot it over and over.
Eh no. The simplification that the customer pays is for practical purposes basically correct. There is little will to shave margins when industries and nations are broadly effected, insufficient margins to absorb much, and little reason even bother to do so save to preserve future business with the expectation that tariffs will be dropped.
What you are seeing sometimes is markets operating on coyote time. Goods are already purchases/imported. Goods are purchased on contracts that don't account for tariffs screwing the importer. Tariffs are applied then yanked before prices have to adjust. When they haven't there is suspicion that they will soon be based on prior TACO behavior and future expectation is that much profit at prior margins will be lost if not carefully managed.
Long term you will absolutely see prices rise to cover 100% of the .
How much actual work vs future commitments again?
There's plenty of will when a commodity is fungible and margins are high. We can see this in retail prices relative to tariff rates.
When profit margins on a product are high, the retailer is more comfortable absorbing the tariff rate through lower marginal profit. Its on products with lower margins that we're seeing the highest inflation rates.
What's more, as imports rise in price they raise the clearing rate for all products, which encourages domestically produced products to rise in price to match. So you're "paying the tariff" on goods that aren't even being tariffed, because they're chasing rising prices of low margin imports.
More actual work with each month these tariffs linger. There's other factors, of course. The declining value of the dollar is inducing demand for US capital and real estate from overseas, as well as cheapening the cost of US labor. And with three more years of Trump in office (plus the real possibility that we get more MAGA Republicans in years to come) business leadership is inclined to believe a high-tariff / low-tax economy is the future for America.
This makes the US an ideal tax haven. We've been a popular safe-harbor for Chinese, Japanese, English, German, and French billionaires to shield their own wealth from their home countries. And if the EU commits to a uniform income or wealth tax policy, this trend will only continue.
His tariffs have short shelf lives, exceptions, and are constantly rolled back. An index of many goods many of which are not tariffed or haven't been tariffed long enough for domestic supplies to have run out conflated with all other price fluctuations is going to make it hard to tease out individual factors.
You could pick a given item that was continually tariffed for a year and discover unit by unit what actual effect of tariffs was. You would presumably find that broad tariffs on everything as a source of revenue is ultimately 99./9% a tax on the population because whilst merchants are absolutely willing to stockpile domestically to ride out expected temporary hikes and manufacturers may find it important to protect future business. Losing a lot of your margin may be worthy to keep the business you when you expect it to be rolled back 90 days later it is not acceptable as the permanent state of affairs.
This is especially true as rates are high.
This is a boring and tedious way to do it but being unwilling to do it means you probably don't care about getting the correct answer.
He loves to threaten triple digit tariffs, then ratchet them back down to double digits. The average rate on international imports right now is around 14%, compared to 1.5% under Biden. Trump is very seriously and deliberately attempting to pivot the US from an income tax based government revenue model to an import tax model that we haven't seen since Coolidge (a paleocon celebrity since the Reagan years).
Real price increases haven't kept up with the increased tariff rates. If you ever make it through B-school or drop into a few college economics classes, you'll understand why. Retailers maximize profits at the "clearing rate" for their sales goods. That's the retail price which maximizes gross revenues at an optimal marginal unit price.
You can't pass on 99% of a tariff increase if it results in a drop in sales disproportionate to the rise in price. That is to say, if you sell 1000 units for $1 but only 500 unites for $1.15, you are losing $500 in revenue to avoid paying $150 in taxes. Depending on the profit margin by unit (let's say you pocket 30% of the $1 in sales - or $300 on that $1000 gross expenditure) there may be no incentive to pass on the tax to the consumer for your business. In this example, you can either pay $150 on $300 in pre-tax profit or... $150 on $300 in pre-tax profit.
Rapidly changing prices has its own chilling effect on your client base. If consumers see the market price jump 15%, they won't perfectly mathematically optimize their behaviors to match. They'll just blindly cut back on consuming out of sticker shock. Or they'll go hunting for lower rates elsewhere.
The savvier play is one we've already seen across the retail sector - shrinkflation. Reduce the volume of unit sold so the margins stay high but the consumer never suffers sticker shock. A bag of chips doesn't become 15% more expensive, it just gets % lighter.
Nobody has a massive margin to start with to pay for the tariffs. Not just margin on the goods but overall operating margin. Just comparing p:rice of imported goods to tariffs doesn't capture
In the long run the oversimplification that a useful understanding. The idea that we can live off the largess of the foreigners instead of taxing income is a moronic idea that hasn't worked any of the other times its been tried. There is every reason for the long term stable price increase to be most of the cost of the tariff even if this isn't true in the short term in a chaotic environment.
the logic should be partner with your allies and find trade that is not economic but holistically beneficial, considering all scientific factors. It's hard and inconvenient but long term deescalating.
That's a very materialist approach to international trade. Unfortunately, we don't have a government run by people with a materialist mindset.
The fact that the distinction of who the fees actually get connected from matters so much to people is so crazy to me. It doesn't matter who the fees are collected from, you're paying them regardless. If the exporter pays them they will just raise the price you pay to cover the cost. It also amazes me that so many people who were in favor of tariffs somehow think they wouldn't raise prices even though that's literally the entire fucking point of tariffs. They raise the prices of foreign goods to give domestic goods that cost more an advantage.
That's a really big issue, tbh. People don't get how prices work. You see the same with promotions/sales. A lot of shops/companies will often put their products on sale for 25%, 50% or even more off. And people think they will actually save that amount of money. Instead of realizing that in most cases the sales price is the regular price, and the regular price is inflated by the sales price amount so that if the product is sold the seller still makes the same margins.
In a former job the company started expanding to Asia, and we got a sales guy from Singapore to represent us in Asia. He said that if we aren't selling with at least 60% rebate, we have no chance of selling stuff in Asia. So we created a new price list for Asia with all the prices tripled.
JCPenney tried to move to a more transparent pricing structure in 2012 and it lost them nearly a billion dollars.
So sad when companies try to do the right thing, the consumer market is too dumb to appreciate it.
Regardless of whether you call it a sale, regular, or inflated prices aren’t you still saving money by buying when it’s relatively low?
I’m aware of the psychology of marketing and the trickery of things like Black Friday. But unless the sale price is literally the same as it was when not on sale, then I’m not following.
Edit: in your Asian rebate example, is the idea that those customers want to see a high price and then get a big rebate when they buy it? That’s fascinating! (And has probably worked on me too)
If the model is high rebates at some times (e.g. an article costs €50 instead of €100 for part of the time), then you do save money buying when it's at €50.
But you have to remember that €50 is the price at which the seller would usually sell the product. That's the price that their price calculation says that it should be sold at. Otherwise they'd not be making profit.
So the alternative model is to always sell the article at €50.
Or to put it differently: The seller does the price calculation and comes up with €50 being the price where they would need to sell it to make profit and the price that the customers would still buy it at. It's the optimal price, and the price they should be going with.
Instead, they sell it for €100, so they can discount it to €50 and put a big "-50%" sticker onto it. Hardly anyone who has the choice buys at €100, everyone waits for the sale, when it's put to €50. And then more people buy, because they think they have made a massive deal, because they have gotten a €100 item for only €50. They are going to tell all their friends about it, it might even make it into news articles or stuff like that, and then more people buy.
The other option, which is illegal in some countries but legal in others, is to just fake the "full" price all together. The product is always offered at €50, but the sticker says "
€100-50% super sale!"You can see stuff like that on Aliexpress. Pick some article that has a 50% rebate during some sales holiday (e.g. Black Friday). Then look at the article a week later, and in almost all cases the non-rebated price next week will be the same as the rebated price during Black Friday.
People just love being lied to. It's really sad.
USA USA USA!
Technically corrext US flag You could put the stars as stars on the circus tent
Ah see I interpreted the image as "it's a big tent and none of the states are in it" as in the repugants (might have mispelled here) red elites don't give a shit about the country.
You didn't
Great idea, be the first to do it if you want.
Cant. Not on my phone
Maybe op should have bought domestic instead of importing it.
lol frfr. these people have NO clue what tariffs are meant for.
Domestic manchego. Aka Velveeta.
The inability to critically think is the first and foremost requirement to be an American conservative.
Ftfy
I think you added an extra word on the end there...
The way it is supposed to work is that they would buy the part from a local manufacturer, thus protecting that manufacturer from foreign competitors. Problem is we got rid of most of our manufacturing in order to break unions and for shareholders to get an extra .0000001% out of their investment. So tariffs now just hurt us.
They didn't work previously either.
In fact income tax was created specifically because tariffs don’t work.
Let's just say for the sake of the argument that the exporter did have to pay taxes on the purchases. The exporter isn't going to pay $450 of of pocket. The purchaser is still going to have to pay the $450 taxes.
I just ate $34.80 in import fees for a sweater recently. It’s rough. The pig will swing soon.
When the current ways fail, return to the old ways.
Knitting a jumper requires time, patience, and a modicum of skill but nothing outside the ability of a determined beginner. It can be done while watching TV!
You can also make it 100% wool instead of acrylic or polyester, which most clothes are made from now-a-days. Therefore being warmer, longer lasting, slightly water resistant, more sustainable, and considerably more environmentally friendly when it inevitably meets its demise many years from now.
$34.80 would go a long way in covering the cost of the wool, potentially even all of it depending on the type chosen and your location.
Next thing you know you'll be surrounded by your own-made blankets and scarves wondering why you ever put up with the plastic crap we're sold in shops. And the warmest you've ever been!
You must have skills to knit a sweater while watching tv. I can't even do a plain, no pattern, knit stitch only scarf without staring at it. I can listen to podcasts or something, just no looking away.
Watching is a strong word to be fair haha
Zoning in and out
I wish that I could make stuff, but you see how my right hand is curling a bit in the picture despite me trying to keep it straight?
Sadly, two strokes have done a number in my motor skills. My cane is resting just out of frame and I’m precariously balanced in that shot.
I didn't see your picture before commenting. I'm sorry to hear that. I like your drip though, very avante garde!
Is it at least a good sweater?
I had an imported parcel get lost last year, and the seller was kind enough to just send out another. I paid the fees for the replacement and then after six months the original parcel showed up. Funny how that happens.
My fashion sense used to have me looking like I was in a yet-unreleased Final Fantasy, but the further we go into fascism times, the more I end up drifting away from that. One of my friends recently said I look like an android refugee. I suppose she’s not wrong. Most of my wardrobe is like this now.
(Oh and yes, the outfit is fantastically warm and fits well and there’s a convenient place on the front I can just drop my phone into.)
I'm no fashion icon but I do find it annoying that most clothing I come across is symmetrical. I don't know what I like more, the asymmetry or the pocket of champions. Incredible.
If you have a link to wherever you got it I wouldn't mind having a window shop. Thanks for sharing!
Yup! For stuff that fits this vibe, I usually hit up ZOLNAR on Etsy, but their stuff often feels more like uniforms than street clothes; and Navaho Clothing there, which is where this piece came from.
I’m not much of an advertiser and I’m not really about spamming that stuff, so there’s no links. Hope that’s okay!
Android refugee isn't a bad look, it looks very cool.
Omg that is a fantastic sweater. I'm temporarily handicapped at the moment, have to use crutches or zimmer, and that there is the pocket of dreams. You look super stylish. I'm sorry to hear of your health woes - I hope some recovery is possible.
My second stroke was over two years ago. Physical therapy every day! Gotta keep at it!
I’m terrible at Megabonk though, just like everyone else. And I play a lot of solo board games to help with the motor function! Currently neck-deep in Arydia and Stars of Akarios!
The best thing is that even if the tax was paid by the exporter they would just raise the price of their product accordingly for the import region lol
Right? Like, this should be obvious to everyone. Why don't people immediately see this? It's crazy.
Knowing DHL, the actual import duty is about half that. The rest is a "brokerage fee" they are charging on top of the tariff. They will not provide an itemized invoice until after you pay. They will not answer any questions about it.
WE TRIED TO TELL YOU!
It pays the salary of the people who will murder you for owning a gun and the people who will lie about it and obstruct the investigation.
Sure, and Mexico will pay for your wall 🤣
If they don't want a bunch of refugees fleeing oppression coming over from the United States they may have to
It's almost like the extreme radical left domestic terrorist demoncrats didn't eli5 how tariffs work from day one!
Ah yes, America is finally finding out what a Tarrif actually is, in real time.
Maybe that Plato guy had a point about democracy damn
Democracies are very vulnerable to propaganda. I'm not sure what the solution is, though.
Education is a good solution to most problems.
except it wont work on the anti-intellectuals or "percieved disenfranchised" people.
Obviously if you already failed at educating people that's hard to fix later. So children education should be the focus.
Yeah but look at how dumb the people who want to end it are. I think it's just that the powerful are stupid
Because monarchs and nobles never made terrible decisions?
Not saying the alternatives are better, I propose we be ruled by tiktok monarchs, only those who have properly consumed enough tiktok slop shall be worthy of leading us to greatness.
It helps. Because Trump will spend that money on destroying east wing, hiding and redacting Epstein files, and killing American citizens
I tell you what, the next time this person votes for the orange child rapist he's going to do it very begrudgingly!!
Haha, just kidding. There's not going to be elections again, or at least not until the obese imbecile dies and passes on the dictatorship...to Eric.
When a moron finally realizes he's been lied to.
I'm not so sure he has. I've heard others claim Trump "didn't realize" that the tariffs would have this impact on them.
Lmao
morons
the OOP doesnt seem to come to realization yet.
So here is what you do:
:)
Tariffs are more of a soft ban than anything else. They're meant to function to protect local industry from cheap imports. And they don't even achieve that.
Case in point: in the 1980's I believe it was, Yamaha came out with their Virago line of cruiser motorcycles. They were objectively better than Harley-Davidsons and sold much cheaper, the only reason to buy a Harley was 1. because the gaing you're in requires ownership of one to be a member, 2. cosplaying as a member of said gang requires ownership of one, or 3. your boomer brain couldn't handle your motorcycle going duh-duh-duh-duh instead of duduh-duduh.
So Harley lobbied for and got a tariff on cruiser motorcycles of over I think it was 1200ccs engine displacement, which simply made the Japanese bikes cost more like what the American ones did. Yamaha responded by slightly treducing the cylinder bores to bring the displacement down to 1150cc making the tariff non-applicable and nothing of use was accomplished.
A person could pay 100% tarriff on the cost of a Yamaha Virago(v-star) and it would still be cheaper than a Harley.
ESPECIALLY considering the long term costs of ownership
Jesus why are Harley's so expensive
Same reason Apple devices are so expensive. Because they can get away with it.
Brilliant.
We call it the Trump extortion tax.
Maybe that's why Canada keeps responding with "tariff me harder".
This way of thinking is hilarious. Dumb too but also hilarious.
What leads anyone to think the source would pay for this.
And that absolute self centered attitude of benefit for him as if the US was the center of the world.
Welcome to international trading and politics. Your country is descending fast and in the coming years you will learn a lot.
No he won't
He will experience many things. He will be lied to about those experiences.
Okay fair, he might not. Let's say there will be a lot opportunity for it! 😂
I'm waiting for Trump to tell him how incredibly ungrateful he is for not supporting Trump's drive to increase US production/Trump's bank account.
im pretty sure trump said that in various ways already: You will have a lower quality of life, get used to it, and STop asking questions and you supported what i campaigned on,,,etc.
It appears that Dan is suffering from a case of "really fucking stupid."
Anyone with an ounce of wit knew it was an import tax on Americans from day one. Some people are just oblivious.
^🎻^
Another Magat that's only slightly more intelligent than a bar of soap.
These people can't be as stupid as these looks into their lives suggest? Ignorant though? They are really ignorant.
In my home country, the news always mention "could be passed on to consumers" when it's about import duties. I don't know what US news tell to Americans for so many consumers to believe they won't pay a dime on the cost of tariffs.
Oh they announced it loudly that it would be passed down to consumers, but some people prefer to watch opinion channels that played it like tariff and import-tax were different.
A lot of voters sadly only view right wing YouTubers and radio hosts as valid information.
OP is supposed to take their now even less money and start a business/factory/supply chain in america making those things in america so that OP can be extorted by the Trump administration so that Trump can then take OP's new business from OP.
C'mon that OP isn't even trying to understand what is happening.
I ordered some oem motorcycle parts not too long ago. The parts cost was ~$12 the shipping was another $8 when i placed the order. Three weeks later i come home to the parts at the front door. Fast-forward 3 more weeks and I get an unexpected invoice from fedex for $7 in duties and tarriffs. Needless to say, i've ignored the invoices for 5 months. -It's not that i'm upset that there are tarriffs on stuff I purchased -it's the fact that fedex never notified me of the bill till weeks after the delivery. Considering that its nearly the same as the cost of the parts, there's a high probability I would have rejected the delivery instead of paying the tarriffs had I been given the option like the guy in the post.
That’s the frustrating part people don’t see — tariffs hit the buyer directly, not the exporter. It’s a real shock the first time you run into it.
Well the exporter get hit too. People might choose another product as you can't be competitive on price
https://www.pixnoy.com/post/6735255749326563195037/ Can't create an original Instagram-link since they don't let people have a look into it without an account. So at least a link to a mirror-site.
At least companies could put it in the pricing up front, but boy the tweeter is dense if they are real.
Why would they put it in the pricing? It looks like it's the shipper collecting the fee on behalf of the government, the seller doesn't see that money at any point.
I've continued to order a few things from abroad. In my experience, the seller has always had a warning about high tariffs.
denser than a bowl of oatmeal
What if you don't pay it / wait it out until finding out the supreme Court ruling?
Based on the wording of the screenshot in the post, DHL already paid to get it across the border and is waiting on OOP to pay them back their $450 before they do last-mile delivery.
Not paying them is a good way to get them to ship it back to the sender and refuse to deliver to the address until they're made whole for both the import taxes and return shipping.
It doesnt get delivered
Well, yes. But do they get a refund?
art of getting kicked in the nuts and blaming 'da dems'
Mr Creopard or Mr Leoparsote?
I had the same issue with a piece of music equipment. Unfortunately, I didn't know it was coming from Europe until DHL asked me for money.
FAFO.
Big of you to assume any thinking is going on
You benefit from that because then America will be great again! (ehm)
That’s why I’m one of the strongest haters of tariffs
DROP THE PANTS! DROP THE PANTS! TAKE THE SHROOM! TAKE THE SHROOM!
DHL try to charge import duties using bogus rates even for things that do not require duties and which they have no reason to think will require duties. And then if you pay them, they just keep the money.
DHL had a package of mine stuck in a delivery center for a month then they just deleted all my tracking info and claimed no knowledge of it.
DHL in this thread, downvoting comments???