Spyke
IninewCrowreply
lemmy.ca

If you live in a northern climate, you have to rely on a very complicated and expensive delivery system that will supply you with this fruit that can only be grown in the tropics. And the only way to keep it economical is to create an economy where food prices are artificially kept low because first world countries systematically suppress developing countries that grow bananas into becoming stable economies that would actually provide better wages for farmers and workers who would raise the price of bananas.

We have cheap bananas because we don't mind living in a world where we abuse farmers and workers to work for pennies to supply us in the first world with cheap bananas.

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lemmy.world

And just to rub salt into the wound, someone created a clothing store named after the political corruption imposed on those countries to accomplish this: Banana Republic.

I can't think of what an equivalent would be in terms of offensive marketing, Starving Irish brand potatoes? A Saudi demolition company named after September 11th? A clothing store inspired by antebellum southern US clothes? I guess some companies still use imagery of indigenous people for tobacco products. That seems like it's in the same vein.

Generally, I try to focus on how beautiful life can be, but damn if there isn't a crowd trying to make it ugly for others.

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lemming741reply
lemmy.world

I've always assumed I misunderstood the brands name but no one has corrected you yet...

To the rabbit hole!

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lemmy.world

Well that didn't take very long... Disturbing how quickly you were able to discern it was all assholes all the way down.

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ricecakereply
sh.itjust.works

Twin Towers wholesale outlet: our prices are coming down fast!

Pearl harbor casual clothing.

Jim crows bar and grill.

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tomenzggreply
midwest.social

That last one is just something that could've realistically existed.

…and would continue to exist, unaltered, well up until the 70s when, finally, it was modified due to growing public awareness; and only because of that.

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Macreply
mander.xyz

Our prices are falling from our hot deals but fret not: the melting point of steel... 🤔

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"Jet fuel can't melt steel beams" was probably a gateway drug for so many of the crazies today

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IronBirdreply
lemmy.world

i'm stealing the demolition company named around september 11th idea, that's actually funny as fuck

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If our competition raises prices! .... We'll bring them down!!!!

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XiELEdreply
piefed.social

Well I think I just realised why they do it. There's this longstanding conspiracy theory that whenever a politician does a fuckup they conveniently say keywords associated with the fuckup but put it in a different context (like say, scandal related to trains, so they get into a model train hobby), and they pay advertisers to market that changed context HARD, so if people search up their name plus trains what shows up are articles talking about their new hobby.

Just thought of this because I was searching up "Banana Republic" in the context of neocolonialism (while reading my country's history) and besides the Wikipedia page being the first result, the next results were that store. And I remembered this reply.

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I had never heard of that tactic. Thanks for sharing. I'll be looking for IRL examples now.

Nixon should have started a hobby in hydraulic engineering specializing in the design and production of water gates, specifically for the Potomac River, including one near that hotel/office/apartment complex that's name I forget.

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nexguyreply
lemmy.world

So they can feed disease too? Is there anything bananas can't do?

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teftreply
piefed.social

They aren't extinct, they just aren't commercially viable to grow on large scales any more. A few isolated pockets of the trees survived the blight. A quick web search will turn up someone selling some if you really want to try them but like the other poster said if you've tried fake banana flavor you've tried gros michel.

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lemmy.world

if you've ever had banana laffy taffy you've had the artificially created flavor of one.

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You can order them from Hawaii (or maybe you have to physically be there).

It's just no longer worth mass producing and shipping any more due to the potential to lose your entire crop.

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tomenzggreply
midwest.social

You'd reminded me that I still wanted to try these, someday, and I went looking, again, for if there was an easier means (other than travelling to Hawaii); I found this place that delivers within the contiguous states: https://miamifruit.org/products/gros-michel-banana-box-order. If you had wanted to try one; more expensive, due to the fragility of the crop, but viable.

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In Southeast Asia we have lots of banana varieties that we regularly eat.

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just like the previous, gros michael, the cavendish is susceptible to a fungal/bacterial disease. Wild type are pratically resistant, or a different species. but they often have that unslightly seeds.

also WATERMelons, figs, oranges.

all the seeded varieties can hybridize, or can cross pollinate with other plants. oranges, often have to use the wild "trifoliate" orange to grow better by grafting onto it. the trifoliate is pretty unique as its very hardy and cold tolerant, also possess defensive spines.

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kungenreply
feddit.nu

Do the 16p and 14p bananas taste better than the 13p bananas?

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Oh, these aren't meant to be eaten. They're 'for scale' bananas and the price is based on manufacturing accuracy.

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But they don't breathe under the plastic, accelerating the ripening

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lemmy.world

...zero mess? What exactly are you doing with the "wrapper?" You know you're not supposed to eat it, right?

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strayreply
pawb.social

You can absolutely eat banana peels, cooked or raw. They're full of fiber, antioxidants, all your basic fruit goodness. I don't eat them, but I understand the people who do.

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Though generally with fruits the added amount of vitamins and all the good stuff that’s concentrated in the skin far outweighs the small amount of pesticides you might consume.

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Fargeolreply
lemmy.world

Just throw it behind your kart to slow down your opponents

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

There are SO MANY bananas, but most people have only eaten the Cavendish. Awhile back, I got a box of assorted bananas from a farm that specializes in growing unusual fruit. I ate about twenty pounds of bananas in three weeks. So many fucking nanners spread across my entire kitchen countertop for weeks, ripening in stages.

My life has been a lie. Yours too. We've all been hoodwinked. We are getting fucked, and not in the good way, because Cavendish is a straight up garbage fruit. There are tiny tart toothsome Thai bananas, chunky Cuban, alluring Apple, beauteous burro, pleasurably plump Pisang, orally outstanding orinoco, mouthwatering Mysore, and the gustatorily magnificent Gros Michel, the OG mass production bananer, which was replaced by Cavendish in a mycological midlife crisis (I'm drunk and if I was a dinosaur, I'd be a tiny tenacious thesaurus tenuisi). Plus more. So many more. Fucking. Bananas.

They all taste like bananas, but each is a little different, some more than others, but they all had more taste that those Cavendish fuckers. So get fucked Chiquita, Dole, and Del Monte. My banana bread sucks because of y'all.

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✝️☪️✡️🕉️🔯🕎different, some more than others, but they all had more taste👅 that those 🤢Cavendish🇬🇧💂‍♂️ fuckers! So get 🍌ucked Chiquita, Dole, and Del🧑🏽‍🍼 Monte. My banana🍌 bread🍞 sucks 🤤 because of y'all.🔚

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Nikls94reply
lemmy.world

I was told a story of a chef I knew about a small, purple banana that tastes like vanilla.

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Did they say that the chef made them close their eyes before tasting it?

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We are getting fucked, and not in the good way, because Cavendish is a straight up garbage fruit.

Good thing they will soon be gone.

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

A tie between the Gros Michel and the Cuban Red. I was staying with a friend in Hawaii when I went on my banana bender, but both look to be intermittently available for delivery online at Miami Fruit.

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gajahmadareply
awful.systems

We called all banana as Pisang (indonesia). Do you know which specific variety you tasted?

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Unfortunately I don't. I know it was Indonesian and the bananas were thick and tightly bunched, but that's all.

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In Portugal, it's very common to find bananas from the Madeira islands being sold in stores, even in like our equivalent of Walmart or Carrefour.

They're like half the length of a Cavendish, a bit more tasty, but still very similar. I very much prefer them.

I know it's not as exotic as your selection but it was something I was able to eat regularly and pretty accessibly there

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So get this. Have you ever had Runts candy? If you or any other readers have, then you've likely noted that the banana candy just doesn't taste right. That's because it's based on the original mass production banana, the Gros Michel, AKA the "Big Mike". That's a proper banana. Cavendish is shit but it's the only type most people have eaten. They've eaten shit. Banana shit.

The following may not apply to you but may for others:

Saying you hate bananas when you have only tried cavendish is like saying you hate beer when you've only tried warm, flat Keystone Light.

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wiesonreply
feddit.org

Isn't monoculture a plantation where you grow only one crop? At least in my language it is. But bananas are a genetic clone of their mother plant. That means all plants of one cultivar are n-tuplets, if I remember correctly.

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They're completely safe what comes to Potassium-40 radioactivity! You need to eat a massive amount of them to even reach the point where you experience radiation sickness. Actually, you might experience excessive potassium toxicity levels first. (Or you might not! Human bodies are equipped to get rid of excess potassium.) Or, you know, you might experience the problems of stuffing too much stuff down your gullet. There's only so much stuff you can fit in your stomach at one time.

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The monopoly that supplies most bananas to the "western" world has long been known to be a murderous corrupt corp? That's the one major drawback to that chewy sweet banana fiber.

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lemmy.world

They'll be gone in 10-15 years? The current popular version anyway. A fungi is destroying them.

It happened before back in the fifties with the last version. Except there's nothing really close this time. The other types of bananas aren't close at all

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lemmy.ca

That old version "Gros Michel" is what artificial banana flavour is based on. Bananas used to taste like that. The newer "Cavendish" variety is firmer and lasts longer, but doesn't have the same flavour. It seems like both are being wiped out by disease though, yay monoculture.

Cavendish seem to be especially vulnerable because they're all clones. They don't produce viable seeds, so they're grafted to new plants.

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Might've gone on a search bout baanas last night. I now prefer goldenfinger, a type AA cultivar I have never seen in my entire life.

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There is already a gene modified cavendish that is resistant to the fungi, but it's not legal in the EU so it's not being used yet

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wolfrasinreply
lemmy.today

The lost variety is the Runts candy banana and it makes me sad that it's gross

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Well. Artificial flavoring is typically identifying 1 or 2 compounds that occur within a fruit, whereas the fruit has dozens of these compounds. Imagine what artificial apple flavoring is to green apples - that's what Runts is to the Gros banana.

You can still get the Gros in some places but it's not grown at scale, has to be isolated.

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lemmy.ca

Nope, all dirty fleshbag. I just like knowing things and hope others do too. :)

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Gladaedreply
feddit.org

Gros Michel and many other bananas are clones, too. So are apples.

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lemmy.ca

Not all apples, but many. Including Macintosh, which was found along a road and could never produce viable seeds. There were only three trees for like 30 years before people noticed that they tasted rather good. All Macintosh apples today are grafts of the one surviving tree.

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M0oP0oreply
mander.xyz

Maybe, but they are right (AI or fleshbag). I love artificial banana flavour way more then the current banana and have dived deep into the madness that is the banana industry. We are eating lies when we could have been eating Gros Michels if only greed did not prevail.

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shneancyreply
lemmy.world

god no do not bring back Gros Michels, artificial banana flavour is bleh

i suppose soon we'll have to compromise and start liking (or not) a new banana flavour though, if that banana disease gets to the current version

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Agreed. I accidentally bought tropical antacids and like 50% of them are banana flavor. I'd rather just have indigestion

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Hate to tell ya but I had the same inverted experience. "How come this gross artificial banana tastes nothing like bananas?! Ohhhh....".

It does kinda drive me nuts though, not knowing what the real deal tastes like. Can only imagine, for you!

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My introduction to banana flavor was the penicillin liquid medicine as a kid, I got in a bit of trouble drinking the whole bottle at night, and more trouble by doing it to every bottle I could find later (my siblings illness was a small price to pay). I have been chasing that high of flavor ever since. My parents tried to give me "real" bananas after but they are but a pale imitation that only dulls the edge of my craving.

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discuss.tchncs.de

ooh so that's what that is

i heard an old man mysteriously whisper "enjoy your bananas while they still exist, young person" to me at the supermarket a while ago and i didn't know what they were talking about but they sounded very serious so i didn't doubt them.

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psudreply
aussie.zone

Clones fall behind the arms race that nature is. Seedless bananas so far seem to last decades

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lemmy.world

One bad thing: it's all just clones so now it's extremely vulnerable to one kind of fungus, much like the gros michel banana it faces near extinction

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My local Acme carried red bananas for a while. They are fucking delicious, taste more like a banana custard than a regular yellow banana. They're also a bit smaller so less of a commitment to carbo-loading when you peel one. I wouldn't mind at all if they became the new standard banana, even if it would kind of ruin Mario Kart.

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Not here around the world, maybe in your banana republic.

We have atleast 10 varities in our country.

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Cheap

Except when some genius at your local Walmart changes the price from $0.87/pound to $1.56/banana.

My store went from number 1 in sales of bananas in the country to dead last in just under a week because whoever set the prices was an idiot.

Also genetic diversity is in the crapper. One epidemic and we won't have bananas anymore.

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MentalEdgereply
sopuli.xyz

Well.

We wont have bananas that taste any good. The ones we eat are selectively bred to become seedless, and are thereby infertile, and must be cloned to be propagated.

The species would still exist, but we'd have to start over with developing a plant that produces something edible.

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I would love to try two different bananas I have only ever read about:

  • The one that supposedly tastes like vanilla pudding

  • The one that no longer exists where banana flavoured candy derives its flavor from.

Unlike that artificial strawberry flavor that sucks compared to actual strawberries, I quite like the artificial banana flavor of candy over an actual banana (which, to me, barely has a flavor at all).

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The one that no longer exists where banana flavoured candy derives its flavor from.

That's actually a myth. See Wikipedia.

The Gros Michel has a higher concentration of isoamyl acetate, the ester commonly used for "banana" food flavoring, than the Cavendish.[12] This higher concentration is responsible for the myth that banana flavoring was based on the Gros Michel, but artificial banana flavor was not based on any specific cultivar.

Here's a longer piece on just that subject.

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XiELEdreply
piefed.social

We wont have bananas that taste any good.

Cavendish bananas aren't the only varieties of bananas that taste good. For example Lakatan and Latundan taste good raw. It's just that most of the time they aren't feasible for export.

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It's just that most of the time they aren't feasible for export.

I didn't know that.

Maybe it would be more accurate to say we won't have an edible banana that is suitable for large-scale industrial production.

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One epidemic and we won’t have bananas anymore.

Only for a few countries ;) There's still a lot of banana varieties eaten around the world.

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There are a lot of types though. Walmart may not have them, but my little 4 meter by 3 meter patch has several varieties and produces enough bananas for about 4 families.

So someone will still have bananas.

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slrpnk.net

name one bad thing about it.

Okay, the wages and working conditions of plantation workers (modern slaves). The cost of bananas in first-world countries is ridiculously low, and is demeaning to those who work hard to enable this privilege for us.

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Exactly. The post calls them being cheap a good thing, but when you know about the slave wages, idk if them being this cheap is that much of a positive.

A lot of people just know that one song from the Beetlejuice movie, but it's about the workers in banana plantations:
"Come Mr. tally man! Tally me banana.
Daylight come and me wanna go home."

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boboreply

and is demeaning to those who work hard to enable this privilege for us.

For real! Keeping countries colonised in this day and age is hard work

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lemmy.world

The taste. I've tried to like them. Had them in smoothies and banana bread, had the is savoury and sweet things. I even made myself eat one everyday while hiking cross country, thinking I'd learn to associate the taste which much needed energy. Nothing worked, they just taste like garbage smells. And the texture! Firm and soft each have their unique horrors.

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GingaNingareply
lemmy.world

I had a brazillian co-worker that brought in "real bananas" and it was a night and day difference. way more flavour.

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XiELEdreply
piefed.social

Idk about Brazil but there's a lot of banana varieties that are regularly consumed around the world. There's Lakatan, Saba and Latundan in the Philippines for example, the Saba banana being really popular as a fried snack on a stick.

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Mike D.reply
sh.itjust.works

There are many varieties in the Philippines. They can usually be found in decent Philippino stores in California.

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No. Here in colombia we've got dozens of varieties. The problem is they don't ship well so you can't generally get them far from where they grow.

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I can’t stand bananas. Taste or texture. I can do artificial banana flavor but anything with real bananas is gross. I wish I liked them because they’re inexpensive and generally nutritious.

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Hadriscusreply
jlai.lu

Have you tried fresh banana picked a minute ago ? the small savoury kind (about 10cm long), or the red creamy kind ? the banana world is wide

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antonreply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

Have you tried fresh banana picked a minute ago?

No, but if climate change keeps accelerating, I might be able to eat a home grown banana. Unless the gulf stream breaks of first, in which case I can heard reindeer.
Both are horrifying to think about.

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lemmy.zip

I completely agree. I revisit them every year or two to see if my tastes have changed, but I still gag when somebody peels a banana anywhere near me. It’s an automatic involuntary reaction. They are the only food I can think of that give me an immediate gag relfex.

For example, I can be sitting at one end of a train, and I can tell when someone on the opposite side of the train starts eating a banana. I have to put my face in my shirt to stop myself from puking. I wish I liked them, they’re so freaking healthy, but nope can’t do it.

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Totally. The smell is awful, ive always associated it with smell of an ripe bag of garbage. I don't know if it's because bananas just smell bad, or because the smell of old banana peel in the trash is the scent that I notice the most, but it's not a good association.

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I love bananas. About three years ago, I started having one banana and a spoonful of natural peanut butter for breakfast every day. It was easy and I loved it.

I put on 15 pounds before I noticed.

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They would add an insulin spike early in the day, and increase hunger

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Fuck you, that snort I made when I read that almost woke up my toddler. Fucking bananus 🤣

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baggachipzreply
sh.itjust.works

The atheist’s nightmare! If they weren’t genetically engineered, that is.

The smarmy arrogant ignorance dripping from that video is both hilarious and enraging.

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Self- righteous religious celebrities are awkwardly sexually repressed and their feigned wholesomeness & naivete are nauseating.

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I came here to see if someone had already posted this. I wasn't disappointed.

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sh.itjust.works

Except for there is like a 1 hour window when they taste really good and have a good texture. In between when they're green and taste like chalk and when they're full yellow and taste like mushy baby food.

Right in that 1 hour window? Delicious.

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I don't know what the deal is with people who say that. They're good for several days, and they even have a very convenient method for showing you whether they're good or not. You don't really need bananas to last more than a few days, because by then, they're all eaten.

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lemmy.ca

I met someone that likes it a little green and not soft. We don't talk anymore. /S

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This is so true, it's such a small window of being perfect. Meanwhile oranges are just chilling.

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I have some bad news about bananas. The current strain we use as food is going extinct as the banana trees are ill and dying out. Luckily we're already changing a different strain to be ready for consumption (making them bigger and without seeds because yes, wild bananas are full of seeds).

Also cocoa plants are ill and dying and we don't have a different strain. So some time in the future we will be without chocolate.

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The banana republics? The monoculture? The fact the ones in supermarket taste bland and it costs and arm and leg if you want one that tastes good?

Take your pick

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Don't forget the pesticides that are so fucked up that the farmers end up infertile

I can't buy non organic bananas, I feel like I am castrating someone. But realistically probably organic also isn't that much better.

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The French islands of Martinique and Guadeloupe are heavily contaminated with chlordecone,[19] following years of its massive and unrestricted use on banana plantations: primarily against Cosmopolites sordidus.[20][21] Despite a 1990 ban on the substance in mainland France, the economically powerful banana planters lobbied intensively to obtain a waiver to keep using Kepone until 1993. They argued that no alternative pesticide was available, which has since been disputed. After the 1993 ban, the banana planters were discreetly granted derogations to use their remaining stocks, and a 2005 report prepared by the French National Assembly states that after the 1993 ban was imposed, the chemical was illegally imported to the islands under the name Curlone, and continued to be used for many years.[9] Since 2003, local authorities in the two islands have restricted the cultivation of various food crops because the soil is badly contaminated by chlordecone. A 2018 large-scale study by the French public health agency, Santé publique France, shows that 95% of the inhabitants of Guadeloupe and 92% of those of Martinique are contaminated by the chemical.[22] Guadeloupe has one of the highest prostate cancer diagnosis rates in the world.[23]

If you know how to read french, there is this comic book from Jessica Oublié, this is really well documented and sadly amazing to read, there are lots of french colonization implications in this story, obviously. The other comic about caribbean colonization by Jessica Oublié is also very impressive work.

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lemmy.world

We are one minor mutation of a common banana disease away from having to get an entirely new kind of banana, and frankly we are not prepared for that.

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IronBirdreply
lemmy.world

bananas are mid anyway, like red apples. nothing of value lost

they dont even have a lot of potassium, you'd have to eat like 70 bananas to get rdv of potassium.

you want rdv potassium (or most any other vitamin) you need to eat fucking vegetables

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You have to eat approximately 10 bananas for rdv of potassium.

rdv for potassium is 4500mg. A banana contains approximately 420-550mg of potassium.

While 70 bananas is probably not going to kill you, ld50 for potassium is 2500mg/kg, that much potassium can exacerbate some heart problems.

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any other fruit with a load of sugar made into bread form tastes the same or better than banana bread

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lemmy.nz

And yet supermarkets wrap them in plastic on a polystyrene tray........

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ayyyreply
sh.itjust.works

That’s counterproductive in terms of shelf life, and just plain gross. If your market does this, vote with your wallet and go somewhere else.

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Not mine specifically, but I've seen pictures online. It's a complete garbage move and yeah, plain gross!

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ttrpg.network

What's with the weird censoring of the post metadata? Do we not want to credit the original poster for some reason?

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Its a thing on a lot of forums, no identifying information blah blah blah... So reposts such as this will often be edited to high hell lol.

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Fun fact: The banana was actually a significant part of the industrial revolution. This was because coal miners could eat it without needing to wash their hands.

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fedia.io

The Cavendish banana is a monoculture that your grandkids will never know, the same way that you’ve (very probably) never had a Gros Michel.

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boboreply

The Cavendish banana is a monoculture

Who could have guessed a group of banana cultivars is a method of growing crops

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lemmy.world

Huh. I still see Gros Michel (or a relatively similar breed) at markets from time to time where I live (although I’m in the Middle East)

Edit: I’ve also seen other variants before. I think the Cavendish is the blandest of them all. My favourite type of banana is a bit smaller with a very fragrant smell that’s also sweeter. Not sure what it’s called though

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There are a handful of places still growing Gros Michel on a very small scale, hence the "very probably" modifier.

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piefed.social
  • comes in its own wrapper
  • zero mess, zero cleanup, zero prep

Choose one.

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The massive amounts of pesticides they spray on the banana plantations is pretty bad.

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What do you mean zero cleanup? Now I have to carry around a banana peel all day. All hail apples (yes, I eat the core).

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fedia.io

High glycemic index. Has to be imported from tropical to non-tropical regions. Cavendish variety, pictured above is susceptible to Fusarium wilt aka Panama disease

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Banana smell is so powerful if you leave a banana in the fridge over night any unprotected food will taste like a banana

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I've got 2 bad things

  1. The included wrapper isn't very rigid and can split and mash around. I've had several bananas turn to paste if they are forgotten about in a backpack or work their way to the bottom and end up crushed by other items.

  2. Fruit flies.

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Honeybee alarm pheromone smells exactly like bananas.

If you're a beekeeper you either already know about it or can test it. Just make sure you're in a bee suit, they will attack you.

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sopuli.xyz

even one bite makes gives me such an insane stomach pain and nausea that I'm crying in my bed for three days. and it's not stomach cramps, it just feels like my entire belly will explode and nothing comes out. years ago i could eat them just fine, but now it's also pears and berries...

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Get an allergy test. Banana allergies (even though that doesn't necessarily sound like one) are associated with other allergies,including some medications.

So...you might want to know in advance.

If it is not that then try biobananas once. A lot of people are sensitive to the pesticides used.

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Also you harvest them every two weeks. Want to sell them already? Just stick them under a plastic carp for a couple of days and they'll be ripe and yellow.

The bad part is loading trucks of bananas is hard work, those things are heavy.

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lemmy.world

I can name one bad thing. It was used as example of intelligent design by Kirk Cameron…

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Looked at another way, you might say that banana made him look like a fool and publicly humiliated him without so much as a word.

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sopuli.xyz

The new banana isn't as sweet as the old banana and the old one doesn't seem to be coming back?

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Being monocultures, (genetic clones) commercially grown edible bananas are extremely vulnerable to disease.

The currently most popular variant is the Cavendish, replacing the earlier and now extinct Gros Michel, wiped out by the Panama Disease (a fungus).

While the Gros Michel isn't coming back, people are apparently trying to create and grow new variants, as what happened before can happen again.

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piefed.social

Do you mean the Gros Michel banana ? It went commercially extinct in the '60s due to a fungus. So, yeah, probably not coming back. Sadly, the Cavendish banana is also subject to the same fungus so may also get wiped out at some point in the future.

But Race 4 (also known as TR4 or fusarium wilt), the new version of Panama disease that started affecting crops in the subtropics in the 1980s and wiping them out, has since moved to infect crops in the Vietnam, Laos, Pakistan, India, Mozambique, and Australia. In 2019, Colombia declared a national disaster when it was discovered there. As it inches closer to Latin America, the likelihood of losing the Cavendish increases.

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I guess not as I remember having some actually tasty imported bananas in 90's. No idea what happened but currently only even a bit tasty ones are natural and really small and still not as sweet.

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lemmy.world

It's still around. It just got replaced by the new banana for produce.

You can still buy Gros Michel bananas, they're just harder to find compared to a Cavendish.

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slrpnk.net

Bananas are way overrated. Not nearly as much potassium as potatoes. As far as fruits go, they are lower fiber, high sugar (aka the not good kind of carbs).

And you know how they turn brown quickly after being exposed to air? That process virtually eliminates the absorption of any sources of antioxidants that it might be mixed with. Like adding bananas to your smoothies? If you were hoping for health benefits, you just wasted your money.

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lemmy.world

I am not a moron lol, I add the banana to my smoothie as a sweetener and to make it creamy, I add the spinach leaves, chia seeds, flax seeds and walnuts for health, along with a bunch of protein

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slrpnk.net

I don't think you understand. By adding the banana, you are canceling out the benefits of all of those other things.

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slrpnk.net

How dare you accuse me of being a weirdo keto person, I am most definitely not one of them. 😑

The effect is caused by an enzyme in bananas that are part of it's natural immune response. It breaks down polyphenols.

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lemmy.world

Worrying about shit like that is borderline orthorexia, I guess I also shouldn't add spinach to my smoothie because oxalates

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Dude, "orthorexia" was a thing that was baselessly made up. It doesn't exist.

It's not hard to just leave bananas out of recipes, at least for me, it doesn't feel like a loss in the first place. Just more room for better things.

Spinach is fine, the oxalates bind the spinach's own nutrients. The only issue there is a higher risk of kidney stones, which is easily avoided by eating a balanced variety of mixed greens regularly instead of any single one.

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I used bananas to thicken and sweeten and bananafy a smoothie, but I don't consider a smoothie something that should be made healthy. My smoothies were milk and banana, and occasionally cocoa

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And if you look here, there's a convenient little tab that god put right 'ere to make it easy to open

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Bananas can replace egg when baking desserts. 34 grams of banana per one egg is perfect btw.

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My GI tract always hates bananas, for whatever reason. That's my main con.

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aussie.zone

One bad thing is that you can't have them near other fruit because they will make all the other fruit ripen way faster than it should, that's why your fruit bowls suck and you have to replace your non banana fruit often.

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I strongly dislike their taste and am allergic to them, but yeah that are individual problems. Also.. why is high kalium so important?

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adultswim.fan

It's funny that the "Honey I Shrunk the Kids" banana/potassium line is still being passed around as fact.

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It's kinda hard to take an article like that seriously when they're using volume instead of mass for comparison.

But while bananas contain a decent amount of potassium, they're not a potassium super food.

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Some people find the smell very strong. Something to do with receptors idk? I know someone with a banana allergy who can immediately tell if he's entered a room with bananas in it from smell alone, even if they're not peeled.

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A purple dragon

A diuretic that causes excess retention of potassium (and also blocks androgen receptors and also a medication for high blood pressure, but those aren't relevant to potassium).

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smells bad to me. just the typical american grocery store kind though. in countries where they have every other banana they actually smell great.

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Idk if yhis is true, but here in the south it's said that too much sugar makes bananans decay during transportation. The best ones never make it out of my country.

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Could be less stringy, also the little brown bit at the bottom is annoying. Also which it stayed in the not too ripe zone a little longer. They go ripe way too quick.

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