I've had the privilege of working with users with actual computer training. Old ladies who started working on terminals in the 70s and 80s. They were awesome, because they actually understood what they were doing. They could give me an accurate description of what they were doing when shit went wrong. They had real concerns and realistic requests for improvement. And they never blamed the computer when they encountered something they didn't understand. They're all dead or retired now.
Todays computer illiterate workforce is doomed to be incompetent because they don't understand how their main tool works. Nobody bothered to train them.
The complicated thing here is there are so many layers of abstraction to make things easier to use and understand that if you didn't age with the tech, it's really hard to fully understand. That's everything. I see Angular and React developers who don't understand CSS.
My last position, we had classes that set sizes for everything in multiples of 4 pixels. So size-1 is 4 pixels, size-2 is 8 pixels, etc. And everything was sized with those classes. Which means if you ever wanted to resize anything, you have to go to every element and change the class instead of you know, having input controls have distinct classes.
People are layering on abstraction without understanding why and throwing away all the benefits, time to invent another abstraction layer! I had my tech lead argue with me that this was a better system because "standards". I'm going to assume the standard was poorly understood because I can't imagine a multi-billion dollar company hires idiots to set standards.
I got started learning transistors and Boolean algebra and programming an 8-bit cpu in college. Had computers for a few years before that. It's surprising how many conditionals I see that can be simplified by Boolean algebra.
I don't actually hate computers, and I try to give IT workers some grace because I'm not always proud of the work I do when I have to finish 3 months of work in two weeks. But I've worked with a lot of folks who aren't curious or looking to learn and improve, and I have to wonder why they ever got into IT in the first place.
For me the worst part of IT is the god damned management. Any possible productivity gains from agile are undercut at every turn by management who has to have a concrete promise of a delivery date before they even define the ask.
Anyway, sorry for the rant. Started my long weekend early and starting a new job next week, so I have a lot of pent up rants from my last company.
I mean, there's idiots and there's idiots, you know? Yeah those classes should never have existed and maybe that's evidence enough of idiocy, but there is an abundance of folks smarter than me. Surely they could hire one of them...
Thing is, back in those days computers were deterministic.
A certain action caused a certain reaction, and always the same reaction (given the same context).
Anyone could learn that, as long as they bothered to read the screen (a surprisingly rare talent, to be fair).
Now, at least on windows, it's anyone's guess what random mayhem a certain action might cause, or where the interface to perform that action has gone after the last update, supposing it still exists and the system survived the update.
No one can learn that. And anyone foolish enough to try will certainly be driven insane.
Todays computer illiterate workforce is doomed to be incompetent because they don't understand how their main tool works. Nobody bothered to train them.
There also so many things restricting the usage of the tool. Every week my scanner tells me it has a new software update and I cannot install a simple update without admin access, so I have to call help desk and have them remote into my computer so they can click the "ok" botton.
Everything is so walled off there's no reason to learn how any of it works because you have no access. When the security bios update (forget what it was called) fucked everyone's computers last year I found a fix online and could have easily went to several locations and got them up and running, but no one on site has the access to boot into safe mode and instead we all just sat on hold with help desk for 2 days waiting for IT to do the thing I already knew how to do.
Printers are known in IT to be a utter pain in the ass. Most brands are also using a lot of proprietary stuff and it limits interoperability. Drivers for example.
Well known example is about ink cartridges. HP added identification chips on them, so if you want to use an other brand, not HP, to fill your printer, you can't because if no chip is detected despite a cartridge being inserted, the machine will tell you it is not genuine.
Another example with Rycoh. I don't know if their printers still use this method, so take it as an example of capitalist greed more than a current situation.
Laser printers are using a sealed container to process waste created during printing. Rycoh had placed a led detector inside to know when it was full and trigger an alert, stopping the machine and request for a change.
Good idea in theory but in practice the detector was placed very oddly or on purpose near or in front of dust intake. So it was bathed very quickly in electrostatic dust and thus triggered the alarm very quickly, even if your container was not fully filled.
The only way to solve this was to shake your waste storage, hoping it would clean the led enough to keep going for a few days or change it.
Lastly, I have a Brother printer, bought to a neighbor sale. The oven inside, which is in charge of heating the ink, had a failure. It had melted. For the price, it was a deal. I only needed to buy a new part, unplug it, replace and I had a laser printer with colours. Well, Brother had lightly soldered pins linking the connector to PCB. When I unplugged it, soldering came with it. I contacted a repair store near me telling me they don't do it and I should ask for a repair to a certified Brother technician. Which is overpriced. I also can't open it fully as it is placed to be impossible to repair without disassembling half of the machine.
No printer is the same, some brands are better than others. Some are well accepted on Linux with CUPS, some other not. But so far, not one brand impressed me well enough by their design to keep it open, easily fixable and long lasting.
This absolutely applies to me. I’m so sick of computers and software and security and subscriptions and vendors.
I just want my own animal sanctuary with chickens and otters and baby goats god dammit!
Weirdly, i don't hate HP printers (at least, the FutureSmart ones). Xerox can fuck right off with all those restarts just to change fucking settings though
CS IT but yeah. I work in a company with people with masters in CS from Ivy League schools and they don’t understand the first thing about how hardware or their OS works. Common misconception
…which, in and of itself, is sad as hell because one of the course requirements (at least when I was working on my CS degree) was Operating System Concepts & Design.
And anyone in a field related to studying living creatures in nature hate pesticides/herbicides.
Because pesticides harm everything that eats the thing that eats the thing that eats the thing that eats the pesticide.
Wait, so the lead shots imbed in the animals that eat the lead shot large birds? And again for the animals that eat the animals that eat the lead shot large birds?
If an animal gets shot with lead, survives and runs away, there is now a wounded animal or an animal carcass containing lead somewhere in the wild.
If it is wounded or freshly dead a carnivore will eat it and accumulate lead. That may be large carnivore or a smaller carnivore that later gets eaten by a bigger one. Birds tend to have stronger stomach acid that most mammals, allowing them to dissolve the lead better.
Vultures having it the worst as they will eat any carcass and have the strongest acid.
Where's the fucking list Donny? Give us the list you fat orange fuck. We know you're on it, and so do you. How did you think this was going to pan-out, dumbass?
I know 2 people that both had an accident this way. One tore off a tendon around the knee, the other fractured their hand from trying to cushion their fall. And I don't know that many people.
Ugh, if only that worked for longer than like a month.
Eventually all these materials you can throw under throw rugs to make them stickier end up failing. Catastrophically.
Make sure to get a throw rug that has the non-slip feature sewn in. Make sure it's nice and heavy too and never put it in the dryer (it'll ruin the non-slip part). You should probably air dry throw rugs anyway, actually 🤷
Psychoanalysts hate those blotchy black & white images of my mother's pussy giving birth to my father who is wielding a knife with my name written along the hilt. "Stop bringing these fucking drawings in here!" she yells. God forbid a man have hobbies.
I wasn't making any kind of reference, myself, to be whooshed by. I've used this name around for a little while and just wanted to agree with your statement, then noticed the partial similarity in our names and wanted to comment on that, to, as if someone were trying to say my handle but got stuck on an audio loop: "Major— major— major— major—"
I thought you meant window screens for a second and was picturing some kind of weird eye injury epidemic involving enthusiastically looking out windows
It's actually almost a thing - in Moscow State University, during world cup a decade ago, lazer show was projected right onto students dorm. Not that students didn't protest, it's just those who did were taken by police. Not to mention that many students had babies, and few were fans of loud noises or football for that matter. Fortunately these people were smart enough to save their eyes. Oh, good old stories from hell.
They are incredibly rude to the families receiving financial assistance, it takes 3 months for them to pay us, and did you know that if you don't have a will they cut your step-children out of the process entirely?
We had one gentleman in our care whose only living family was his step-daughter. Because there were no blood relatives and no will the Public Guardian took control of his disposition and the step-daughter had no say in anything that happened with him. Wasn't allowed to keep a portion of the ashes, the Funeral Director had to fight just to allow the step-daughter a brief final visitation.
This is also true for children under 18. Your 17 year old child has no say in your disposition if you have no other living relatives.
Have a will people, if for no other reason than to allow your loved ones to decide how they will grieve rather than some indifferent bureaucrat.
Picky eaters are, without exception, some combination of childish, self-absorbed, developmentally-stunted, and incurious. Oh, you "won't eat" some dish that literally hundreds of thousands of humans eat every day with your special, unique taste buds? Fuck outta here, kid.
Eidunno I'm no chef but I worked a bistro. Then went to it. Like people said it's users. Always the user.
Nurses are the worst to cook for. Like the cops of women. Not all are shit but the ones who are ruin it for everyone else. Entry level job that gives absolute control over the disenfranchised. Of course there will be bullies.
I'm at the hospital as a patient at least once a month. A lot of doctors are bullies, but I've yet to see a single nurse that's so much as rude to me. At most a bit short when they're stressed, but never more than that.
People keep saying they're dangerous but I ride one all the time. I really wish they were as well studied as bikes, where I know the helmet doesn't help that much when you're hit in a collision.
Software engineers hate MBAs. It's like they live in a fantasy world where everything works perfectly and can be done in 3 days and can read your mind.
I spent years in a research path core and am just wrapping up my med lab certification, it amused me when they hired actors to come to our program and we role-played dealing with angry pathologists, fuming nurses ect... Most of my clients have been MSc students or MD/PHD conducting research. they might be experts in their field and conduct these brilliant studies then stumble right at the finish line because sample collection was bungled or something ruined during extraction. I've seen some "interesting" DIY fixation and processing protocols to save a little money that did the same thing. I always feel so bad but most people are willing to learn and work with us.
I'm in pathology (research, transitioning to medical) so that was my frame of reference here. Its my job take the samples given to the lab and turn them into slides for analysis but tue results are only as good as what I'm given in the first place (crap in, crap out). same with blood draws, urines, anything improperly collected no longer properly represents the thing it came from. Then I have to tell the client that...
There's one automated system I need to call regularly at work that does not give me the option of dialing numbers and forces me to speak to it. It lists the options it can understand, but I can't just press a number to move on. Then it asks me to say and spell my first name, then say my last name (which it guesses the spelling of incorrectly) and pretends to type while it's processing. Why are we doing this?
Intuit products. They mislead people into thinking they are saving money by not paying an accountant or taking a class or two at the community college.
Depending on the situation, it can result in heavy fines and fees when the books or tax returns need to be corrected.
dude you can hate but 80% of "data" still.on excel. I'm in my third global company and people still control things on excel. and 5% power bi (some from excel) hahahahaha
It's perhaps not so much Excel, as much as it's just the symptom of a lot of bigger issues: working without version control, without column validation or access control, limited documentation (not necessarily better in data warehouse but at least the functionality is easily accessible), limited automated testing, etc etc.
If only they could keep their data for themselves, then ok. but no no, we have to ingest it, and do work on top of it in dwh, and it just breaks so often due to a variety of different stuff.
Wait you mean your organization doesn't use some ludicrously expensive hosted database solution or 3 to aggregate data then instead of natively working with the data in that database it gets exported and transformed on a local machine which may or may not havd backups then ask the database people about weird data quirks coming from the local transformations performed on the data
they do but they export it to excel 🤣 not joking, some people export the entire data base of something and just use it on excel because "it's very easy"
One of those candidates for 'worst memorable phrase in history' is the old "duct-tape for things that move and shouldn't and wd-40 for things that should move and don't".
WD-40 isn't a lubricant. It often works to get something un-stuck, but then you need to still clean and lubricate the parts to keep it working.
IANAL, but people use it on squeaky hinges and knobs and locks, but it sits in the mechanism and collects dust. It turns into a gummy mess eventually, which is the last thing you would want in a lock.
Video game content creators hate reading ( especially controls ).
Edit:
There are plenty of times I'll watch someone play a game and then get confused about how to do something in it because they either don't look at the controls in settings or breeze past it or don't read what a quest entails. They just play on in a braindead like trance and get confused and angry as to why the game that gives you everything you need to know doesn't tell them something vital like a certain control they need.
As a parent, I don't hate the teachers. Other kids parents need to get their shit together though. The amount of homophobia and racism casually thrown around by the other kids is appalling.
The kind of parents that think their little crotchspawn is an angel and every bad grade is the teacher's fault.
Don't get me wrong, there are bad teachers (had a couple both as student and as a parent), but mostly are doing their best. Or at least not be purposely bad.
Not saying that teacher didn't suck, but method can be important in earlier math classes. So much of early math is about developing number sense and just understanding what is being represented by a mathematical statement. If a method is a stand in for a larger level comprehension, say, showing that 3*2 is also represented by three rows of two, ie
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Just regurgitating a memorized number doesn't show that deeper understanding.
I haven't read the DOT code in a while, so I genuinely don't recall if they're mandated, but I recall that all my trucks had them.
This is of absolutely no use in preventing people from a close merge on the passenger side where the driver definitely cannot see. Often the driver's first indication that this has occurred is the crunch. I've never seen one of these accidents that wasn't completely avoidable.
I hated Product Managers as first but learned how they can be a valuable asset. Especially when dealing with customers or executives. They can handle all the crap throw at us and just filter down what we need know.
SLTs hate pacifiers. They're horrible for a child's teeth, leads to costantly open mouths, are bad for posture etc.. Most patients' parents who come into therapy are good about weaning their kids but some don't and don't know about the harm either
Data? No, because there is none. And I have read every.single.study. They are all fucked in some way or another whether it's methodology or the stats or the sample size/composition. Not a single real in vivo study. None. There is exactly one researcher in Greece doing decent work, and that's it. I took a career change from my previous and now present career and worked in pharma and biotech research.
Former smoker, current vaper. I know inhaling anything other than clean air isn't good for me, and I know nicotine addiction isn't good. I plan on quitting, and I'm making decent progress to that point.
But it bugs the shit out of me when people try to act like it's worse than cigarettes. It's not. Shitty Chinese vapes marketed to kids that we don't know the ingredients of? Sure, ban em. Black market vapes made in some dudes garage with oil? Absolutely track em down and end that man's whole career.
But properly made, regulated vape juice in a rebuildable tank? Leave me the fuck alone. Please. Please do not take the thing that has helped millions of people quit smoking!
Can you link me any decent articles to help the next time someone says some dumb reactionary shit?
Yeah alas the subreddit for it did a lot of the heavy lifting for me - they took apart every study (I helped) and had some good sidebar (or was it pinned, been so long I cannot remember) info to counter the "dumb reactionary shit." I am pretty sure the sub got baninated, but I haven't been back to reddit since I rage quit after the API debacle.
When I first started vaping in 2011 (after smoking two packs a day for decades), there were a lot of solid, research-based web boards, but I think social media killed them, as it did so much.
(Diacetyl, the chemical responsible, is also found in cigarettes, 2,000x more than in vape juice, and cigarettes have never caused popcorn lung. The only recorded case afaik comes from the powder form being used in a popcorn factory with no respirators, and it acted like asbestos sorta where it settles in the lungs. That's a far cry from the liquid form that was in some vape juice before the freakout, which has never shown to cause popcorn lung, just like it doesn't with cigarettes.)
Inb4 vitamin A oil E acetate [fixx'd, was in a rush and done fucked up. Close enough though lol.]
(Black market weed carts made by some dickhead in his garage who didn't know what he was doing. Legalize it already ffs.)
Also the supposed cases of popcorn come from one source. Some dude in California who cut his cannabis juice with it, and in every single case the kids that got sick were using his juice in vape pens, not actually vaping. It's Friday night here and I'd rather not track the story down but if you really want it I'll find it.
As a former life long smoker, vaping (which is the front line treatment for cessation in the UK) saved my life. Now, however, the shops pushing disposable vapes with super high nicotine salts on to kids - which is illegal almost everywhere - they need to die in a fire. The kids don't get hooked on "vape;' they get hooked on nicotina because those damn things are the equivalent of smoking two or three regular cigarets in one puff.
Though it was never popcorn lung from the weed vapes, like I said that idiot used vitamin E acetate (think I mistyped and said A earlier but same diff.) Didn't know he was in CA though I thought he was midwest.
I am someone who used to do medical research for a lot of money. I've interviewed chairs of FDA committees, trial designers, and active trial leads on phase III (mostly) research in pharma and biologics. I still have access to PupMed via my old friends.
Electrical engineers hate OrCAD, seriously. I keep a spare file on all of my work computers collecting when I see someone on line saying OrCAD sucks. Brings me comfort when the program crashes for the 5th time that day
To be fair, just because you (generally, if you do cool stuff) want to sort the signals you recorded from a brain, a lot of times this messy annoying and takes up a lot of time. Saw quite some people get pretty mad about sorting spikes
I, a warehouse worker, hate OXO for slapping every warning label under the sun on their boxes. I saw a box of oven mitts labeled "fragile" along with like five other warnings. Not even a one size fits all box either, this had custom printing for the product.
Also Crown for making equipment that is so ineptly fly-by-wire there is what feels like half a second delay between input and response.
People saying users are the bane of IT professionals are just antisocial whiners. The real bane of an IT professional is fucking printers. Fuck printers.
Excel users: Blank cells in worksheets, leading / trailing spaces, broken desktop links in shared files, bad formatting, bad conditional formating, merged cells*, locked workbooks from 5 years ago someone lost the password too, looking at you Bob!
Surprisingly, ChatGPT is the mortal enemy of a lot of machine learning researchers. It gives people a bad impression about what the field is, poisons future training data, and gives AI researchers who make truly remarkable and useful things a bad reputation because everyone "hates AI" when they really hate the stupid VC backed circlejerk that becomes inevitable in a society like this.
IT people hate computers.
IT people hate users. IT people hate other IT people. We're just a surly lot.
You just made an enemy for life!
You IT people sure are a contentious bunch.
I've had the privilege of working with users with actual computer training. Old ladies who started working on terminals in the 70s and 80s. They were awesome, because they actually understood what they were doing. They could give me an accurate description of what they were doing when shit went wrong. They had real concerns and realistic requests for improvement. And they never blamed the computer when they encountered something they didn't understand. They're all dead or retired now.
Todays computer illiterate workforce is doomed to be incompetent because they don't understand how their main tool works. Nobody bothered to train them.
The complicated thing here is there are so many layers of abstraction to make things easier to use and understand that if you didn't age with the tech, it's really hard to fully understand. That's everything. I see Angular and React developers who don't understand CSS.
My last position, we had classes that set sizes for everything in multiples of 4 pixels. So size-1 is 4 pixels, size-2 is 8 pixels, etc. And everything was sized with those classes. Which means if you ever wanted to resize anything, you have to go to every element and change the class instead of you know, having input controls have distinct classes.
People are layering on abstraction without understanding why and throwing away all the benefits, time to invent another abstraction layer! I had my tech lead argue with me that this was a better system because "standards". I'm going to assume the standard was poorly understood because I can't imagine a multi-billion dollar company hires idiots to set standards.
I got started learning transistors and Boolean algebra and programming an 8-bit cpu in college. Had computers for a few years before that. It's surprising how many conditionals I see that can be simplified by Boolean algebra.
I don't actually hate computers, and I try to give IT workers some grace because I'm not always proud of the work I do when I have to finish 3 months of work in two weeks. But I've worked with a lot of folks who aren't curious or looking to learn and improve, and I have to wonder why they ever got into IT in the first place.
For me the worst part of IT is the god damned management. Any possible productivity gains from agile are undercut at every turn by management who has to have a concrete promise of a delivery date before they even define the ask.
Anyway, sorry for the rant. Started my long weekend early and starting a new job next week, so I have a lot of pent up rants from my last company.
We're all standing on the shoulders of giants, but there are so many layers of giants that it's hard to see the ground.
Why does it feel like im getting stepped on by giants?
Ahahahahahahaha! Oh man, you got a good laugh out of me this morning 🤣
I mean, there's idiots and there's idiots, you know? Yeah those classes should never have existed and maybe that's evidence enough of idiocy, but there is an abundance of folks smarter than me. Surely they could hire one of them...
nepo. babies. (i put my commwnt in the wrong spot)
Thing is, back in those days computers were deterministic.
A certain action caused a certain reaction, and always the same reaction (given the same context).
Anyone could learn that, as long as they bothered to read the screen (a surprisingly rare talent, to be fair).
Now, at least on windows, it's anyone's guess what random mayhem a certain action might cause, or where the interface to perform that action has gone after the last update, supposing it still exists and the system survived the update.
No one can learn that. And anyone foolish enough to try will certainly be driven insane.
There also so many things restricting the usage of the tool. Every week my scanner tells me it has a new software update and I cannot install a simple update without admin access, so I have to call help desk and have them remote into my computer so they can click the "ok" botton.
Everything is so walled off there's no reason to learn how any of it works because you have no access. When the security bios update (forget what it was called) fucked everyone's computers last year I found a fix online and could have easily went to several locations and got them up and running, but no one on site has the access to boot into safe mode and instead we all just sat on hold with help desk for 2 days waiting for IT to do the thing I already knew how to do.
Are you talking about the Crowdstrike incident?
yes
It seems to run on some form of electricity.
SHUT YOUR DAMN MOUTH!
true, but we also hate computers
We hate ones setup by other people or used by other users. Our own network is a glorious shrine to the one true faith.
Can't argue with that... until something goes wrong and I hate it (really just mad at myself)
“Dammit, what idiot set this up this way?”
My laptop windows 11? No problem. Anyone elses windows? Fucking burn it.
IT people hate people then? Checks out to me actually
BTKAC error
Correction: IT people hate printers.
Correction: printers hate people.
As a non-IT person, fuck HP in particular.
PC load letter? What the fuck does that mean?
Fuck printers
Nom one invented a good printer still
I have read this ten times now, and I still can't figure out what it is supposed to mean..
Printers are known in IT to be a utter pain in the ass. Most brands are also using a lot of proprietary stuff and it limits interoperability. Drivers for example.
Well known example is about ink cartridges. HP added identification chips on them, so if you want to use an other brand, not HP, to fill your printer, you can't because if no chip is detected despite a cartridge being inserted, the machine will tell you it is not genuine.
Another example with Rycoh. I don't know if their printers still use this method, so take it as an example of capitalist greed more than a current situation. Laser printers are using a sealed container to process waste created during printing. Rycoh had placed a led detector inside to know when it was full and trigger an alert, stopping the machine and request for a change. Good idea in theory but in practice the detector was placed very oddly or on purpose near or in front of dust intake. So it was bathed very quickly in electrostatic dust and thus triggered the alarm very quickly, even if your container was not fully filled. The only way to solve this was to shake your waste storage, hoping it would clean the led enough to keep going for a few days or change it.
Lastly, I have a Brother printer, bought to a neighbor sale. The oven inside, which is in charge of heating the ink, had a failure. It had melted. For the price, it was a deal. I only needed to buy a new part, unplug it, replace and I had a laser printer with colours. Well, Brother had lightly soldered pins linking the connector to PCB. When I unplugged it, soldering came with it. I contacted a repair store near me telling me they don't do it and I should ask for a repair to a certified Brother technician. Which is overpriced. I also can't open it fully as it is placed to be impossible to repair without disassembling half of the machine.
No printer is the same, some brands are better than others. Some are well accepted on Linux with CUPS, some other not. But so far, not one brand impressed me well enough by their design to keep it open, easily fixable and long lasting.
FUCK PRINTERS
*ZIP*
IT people hate other people using a computer
I once had to watch a co-worker scroll to the bottom of a list using the little arrow buttons on the end of the scrollbar. Clicking, not holding.
That's what my hell would be like. Doing IT support without being able to wrench the mouse out of their hands.
I hate my computer as well. That's why I have to modify it to something completely different before I am able to use it for basic text editing.
I AM TALKING TO YOU EMACS PUT YOUR BACKUPS SOMEWHERE ELSE BY DEFAULT ALREADY I USE GIT
I'm an IT person and I like computers, as long as they've never been turned on and they stay that way.
Many IT people love computers. They hate computers that other people use.
This absolutely applies to me. I’m so sick of computers and software and security and subscriptions and vendors. I just want my own animal sanctuary with chickens and otters and baby goats god dammit!
CS people hate the printer
…and a lot of them hate the end-user, too. Why must we involve people in the whole computer thing? Isn’t an abacus and a box of crayons enough?
Bold of you to assume the end user can handle crayons
I work in a print shop and i also hate the printer.
Fuck you Xante. I hate you so much
PC load letter? What the fuck does that mean??
No idea, but we treat them all the same. 230vAC to the USB port.
Try this and the result may shock you!
Doctors hate it!
500years of printing and this is the best we got... Smh
HP printers in particular.
Weirdly, i don't hate HP printers (at least, the FutureSmart ones). Xerox can fuck right off with all those restarts just to change fucking settings though
People who have worked with printers know that HP is bad but Xerox is worse.
Xerox is a bad copy of themselves from decades prior.
It's a matter of Consumer vs Corporate
In the consumer space, HP is the worst. In the corporate world, Xerox is the worst (iirc Xerox doesn't even make consumer grade printers)
CSIT but yeah. I work in a company with people with masters in CS from Ivy League schools and they don’t understand the first thing about how hardware or their OS works. Common misconception…which, in and of itself, is sad as hell because one of the course requirements (at least when I was working on my CS degree) was Operating System Concepts & Design.
Well that is accurate...
Photo editors hate:
https://youtu.be/EMBkWtDAPBY
And anyone in a field related to studying living creatures in nature hate pesticides/herbicides. Because pesticides harm everything that eats the thing that eats the thing that eats the thing that eats the pesticide.
Same thing with lead shot accumulating in large birds.
Wait, so the lead shots imbed in the animals that eat the lead shot large birds? And again for the animals that eat the animals that eat the lead shot large birds?
If an animal gets shot with lead, survives and runs away, there is now a wounded animal or an animal carcass containing lead somewhere in the wild.
If it is wounded or freshly dead a carnivore will eat it and accumulate lead. That may be large carnivore or a smaller carnivore that later gets eaten by a bigger one. Birds tend to have stronger stomach acid that most mammals, allowing them to dissolve the lead better.
Vultures having it the worst as they will eat any carcass and have the strongest acid.
Is that... me?
Ornithologists hate cats.
Simple, common bird appreciators too
Don't forget reptile and insect appreciators, we also hate cats
Not to forget a lot of cats, who also hate cats
Cats or people who allow their cats to be outdoors?
Yeah, I reread my comment and it can be interpreted either way, but it is definitely the second one.
There are also cats that wouldn't even catch a cold, but the issue is mostly with either stray cats or those that are allowed out.
Me too
Firemen hate pedophiles
Teachers hate pedophiles
Doctors hate pedophiles
Lawyers hate pedophiles
Liberals hate pedophiles
Conservatives hate pedophiles
Independents hate pedophiles
Where's the fucking list Donny? Give us the list you fat orange fuck. We know you're on it, and so do you. How did you think this was going to pan-out, dumbass?
sysadmins hate end users because end users suck.
Software devs hate users
EMS hate motorcycles and decorative throw rugs.
and anything vaugly shaped like a butt plug but is not a butt plug.
Not with that attitude
Also, actual butt plugs. Yes, they can and they will slip inside to the point you can't get them out.
ALWAYS USE A FLAIRED BASE. Ideally a very wide flaired base.
very important lol
You ever realize that a guy is the flaired base to his penis?
The real life pro tip, in the replies as always
Flair: the 32 pins and badges at TGIFriendly's
Flare: a widening at the base
Ah, thank you I missed that :)
Reminded me of this post: https://lemmy.world/post/34770628
Why do they hate the decorative throw rugs?
Slip and fall danger.
I know 2 people that both had an accident this way. One tore off a tendon around the knee, the other fractured their hand from trying to cushion their fall. And I don't know that many people.
Yeah, people don't realize you can add non-slip materials to the bottom to minimize the risk.
Ugh, if only that worked for longer than like a month.
Eventually all these materials you can throw under throw rugs to make them stickier end up failing. Catastrophically.
Make sure to get a throw rug that has the non-slip feature sewn in. Make sure it's nice and heavy too and never put it in the dryer (it'll ruin the non-slip part). You should probably air dry throw rugs anyway, actually 🤷
Fell on a throw rug yesterday
The rug threw you. That's why they're called that!
Some real TIL gems in this thread.
Get receive rugs instead, got it
Agree on the rugs but motorcycles are more of a "I hate people" thing. I'm an EMT that dailies a bike and tons of my coworkers ride too
And post-shit stand ups.
Potty humour?
Aneurisms
Do the floor rugs trip people?
and those huge mirrors thar you just leaning against the wall
Death Star structural engineers hate the waste management guys
Psychoanalysts hate those blotchy black & white images of my mother's pussy giving birth to my father who is wielding a knife with my name written along the hilt. "Stop bringing these fucking drawings in here!" she yells. God forbid a man have hobbies.
Ents also hate Orcs
Who downvoted you? Saruman himself?
It legit took me longer than it should have to realize it wasn't talking about the tree people.
Glass manufacturers hate bubbles.
A lot.
So do economists!
And phlebotomists!
And deep sea divers
...and people that work with resin and 3D printerers.
Structural engineers: fire, water, air and earth. They are like the Anti-Avatar
ENTs hate Q-tips?!
That doesn't make sense to me. But, then again, you are very small.
People sticking Q-tips in their (E)ars and to a lesser extent, (N)oses and (T)hroats.
You're absolutely correct, but op is making a joke about Ents from LotR. A cheeky little pun, if you will.
As someone whose name escaped the skipping record that your name is, I concur.
It's a reference to this character from Catch-22. Unless this is my turn to be wooshed.
I wasn't making any kind of reference, myself, to be whooshed by. I've used this name around for a little while and just wanted to agree with your statement, then noticed the partial similarity in our names and wanted to comment on that, to, as if someone were trying to say my handle but got stuck on an audio loop: "Major— major— major— major—"
HROOOM
dentists hate sugar drinks (I'm with them on this one) ophthalmologists hate screens urologists hate themselves
I thought you meant window screens for a second and was picturing some kind of weird eye injury epidemic involving enthusiastically looking out windows
It's actually almost a thing - in Moscow State University, during world cup a decade ago, lazer show was projected right onto students dorm. Not that students didn't protest, it's just those who did were taken by police. Not to mention that many students had babies, and few were fans of loud noises or football for that matter. Fortunately these people were smart enough to save their eyes. Oh, good old stories from hell.
IT people hate computers
Funeral Homes hate the Government.
They are incredibly rude to the families receiving financial assistance, it takes 3 months for them to pay us, and did you know that if you don't have a will they cut your step-children out of the process entirely?
We had one gentleman in our care whose only living family was his step-daughter. Because there were no blood relatives and no will the Public Guardian took control of his disposition and the step-daughter had no say in anything that happened with him. Wasn't allowed to keep a portion of the ashes, the Funeral Director had to fight just to allow the step-daughter a brief final visitation.
This is also true for children under 18. Your 17 year old child has no say in your disposition if you have no other living relatives.
Have a will people, if for no other reason than to allow your loved ones to decide how they will grieve rather than some indifferent bureaucrat.
Chefs hate cooking themselves food at home
Not as much as they hate cooking for their own children. The greater the number of children, the more true this is.
My friend's a chef and his wife is a picky eater and so are the kids. It's crazy the lengths he goes to to make sure that everyone will eat.
The way I was raised was that I had to eat everything that was given so I'm kinda blown away at this.
This sounds like hell. Picky eaters drive me insane.
Picky eaters are, without exception, some combination of childish, self-absorbed, developmentally-stunted, and incurious. Oh, you "won't eat" some dish that literally hundreds of thousands of humans eat every day with your special, unique taste buds? Fuck outta here, kid.
Picky eaters hate this truth.
The picky eaters consented to eating the meal. They should have scouted for more intel first.
I was legit like 20 before I realized I could say I didn’t like something and avoid it being cooked for me in the first place.
I've recently taken the attitude of "im making insert pretentious food you can eat that or sandwiches"
It's easier to cook for others than yourself.
Eidunno I'm no chef but I worked a bistro. Then went to it. Like people said it's users. Always the user.
Nurses are the worst to cook for. Like the cops of women. Not all are shit but the ones who are ruin it for everyone else. Entry level job that gives absolute control over the disenfranchised. Of course there will be bullies.
I'm at the hospital as a patient at least once a month. A lot of doctors are bullies, but I've yet to see a single nurse that's so much as rude to me. At most a bit short when they're stressed, but never more than that.
Nurses are not entry level lmao
Caregivers.
Very much showed my ass lol
Are you sure?
Meant caregiver. Hella wrong.
Showed ass oops
every time i pick a different direction in my career, Donald Trump personally brings about that industry's ruin
Nvidia hates Wayland. :(
Cardiologists hate deep-fried food.
https://youtu.be/CBv4bO_jC8I 27:09
Really? I feel like doctors really love all the stuff that they tell people not to do.
Massage therapists hate spray tans.
Data scientists hate time zones.
Trauma specialist Doctors hate e-scooters
I have an acquaintance who is learning how to walk and talk again because he hit a pothole on an e-scooter. Wear your helmets, kids!
And bicycle helmets are not rated for the speed e scooters can go. You want a full face motorcycle helmet and motorcycle gloves.
I see so many teenagers screaming down the road at 40mph with no helmet and I clench up. It's stressful.
People keep saying they're dangerous but I ride one all the time. I really wish they were as well studied as bikes, where I know the helmet doesn't help that much when you're hit in a collision.
A scooter's wheels have a much smaller diameter, so they're much more susceptible to rocks and bumps than a bike.
They are also unstable without steering input, unlike bicycles, which makes them way more dangerous. I'd like to see the research.
I guess a point in the scooter's favor is that you can jump off more easily.
I guess the center of gravity is lower on the scooter too for what it's worth.
If you're moving fast, jumping off will not help much. Maybe not getting buried under the bike but not falling full speed
Software engineers hate MBAs. It's like they live in a fantasy world where everything works perfectly and can be done in 3 days and can read your mind.
Game developers hate players. They keep breaking our beautiful games and optimizing the fun out of them!
If your players are breaking your game, try to make a mechanic out of the emergent behaviour
playersspeedrunnersEngineers hate managers.
Remember next time you get a shitty product, don't blame the engineer who designed it. Blame the manager who forced him to do it that way.
Most, if not all, professions in the domain of knowledge creation hate AI.
Retail workers hate you.
lab techs hate improperly collected samples. The people who collect those samples often in turn hate lab techs.
As a lab tech, I feel this one.
I spent years in a research path core and am just wrapping up my med lab certification, it amused me when they hired actors to come to our program and we role-played dealing with angry pathologists, fuming nurses ect... Most of my clients have been MSc students or MD/PHD conducting research. they might be experts in their field and conduct these brilliant studies then stumble right at the finish line because sample collection was bungled or something ruined during extraction. I've seen some "interesting" DIY fixation and processing protocols to save a little money that did the same thing. I always feel so bad but most people are willing to learn and work with us.
Just send it back with a derogatory note telling them to take it again.
It's never easy to connect samples properly in the field and it's never easy to draw conclusions from imperfect sampling.
I'm in pathology (research, transitioning to medical) so that was my frame of reference here. Its my job take the samples given to the lab and turn them into slides for analysis but tue results are only as good as what I'm given in the first place (crap in, crap out). same with blood draws, urines, anything improperly collected no longer properly represents the thing it came from. Then I have to tell the client that...
Or bad planners that expect us to do overtime for their mistakes.
Programmers hate ai
Psychologists hate facebook....and also ai
Marriage Counselors hate reddit....and also ai
Software Engineers hate stand-up
We're lured into a false sense of excitement, thinking it's comedy. Instead, it's tragedy.
Arborists hate Bradford pear trees. They’re the ones that have white flowers and smell like cum. That’s not even why we hate them though.
Web devs too
everyone hates web devs
especially other web devs
What if graphic design is my passion?
Then WordArt loves you too
And we hate game designers
Anyone using a phone hates clankers.
There's one automated system I need to call regularly at work that does not give me the option of dialing numbers and forces me to speak to it. It lists the options it can understand, but I can't just press a number to move on. Then it asks me to say and spell my first name, then say my last name (which it guesses the spelling of incorrectly) and pretends to type while it's processing. Why are we doing this?
Eye doctors hate bungee cords. Be careful with those! ER doctors hate 4th of July.
Linguists hate grammarly
When Reagan said "no child left behind", he didn't mean grammarly. That halfwit mess is toxic.
Accounting:
Intuit products. They mislead people into thinking they are saving money by not paying an accountant or taking a class or two at the community college.
Depending on the situation, it can result in heavy fines and fees when the books or tax returns need to be corrected.
School bus drivers hate landscapers. And Amazon delivery drivers, but at least those fuckers move quickly.
We also hate children but I probably shouldn't admit that publicly.
I know q-tips aren't safe or whatever but man it feels too good to stop.
Psychologists hate cigars
What did you say about my mother?
takes a long drag
I was thinking about your dad actually.
Except Freud who famously loved them
Paramedics hate methamphetamine. And alcohol. And high voltage electrical current.
But we love people who injure themselves creatively.
Whoever is fixing your computer absolutely despises you if you're a smoker. Tar gets everywhere.
helpdesk and users
Apples unite them all
Cardiologists probably hate fried food and energy drinks
Data (dwh) people hate Excel
As someone who used to work with "large" (to normal people; 10k-60k rows up to maybe 70 columns) datasets in Excel exclusively, I also hate Excel.
dude you can hate but 80% of "data" still.on excel. I'm in my third global company and people still control things on excel. and 5% power bi (some from excel) hahahahaha
Yep, that's true haha.
It's perhaps not so much Excel, as much as it's just the symptom of a lot of bigger issues: working without version control, without column validation or access control, limited documentation (not necessarily better in data warehouse but at least the functionality is easily accessible), limited automated testing, etc etc.
If only they could keep their data for themselves, then ok. but no no, we have to ingest it, and do work on top of it in dwh, and it just breaks so often due to a variety of different stuff.
Wait you mean your organization doesn't use some ludicrously expensive hosted database solution or 3 to aggregate data then instead of natively working with the data in that database it gets exported and transformed on a local machine which may or may not havd backups then ask the database people about weird data quirks coming from the local transformations performed on the data
they do but they export it to excel 🤣 not joking, some people export the entire data base of something and just use it on excel because "it's very easy"
That hit a bit too close to home. 😂
Everyone hates Sales except C-suite.
For lawyers? The Dunning-Kruger effect.
Locksmiths hate WD-40
not a locksmith, but...
One of those candidates for 'worst memorable phrase in history' is the old "duct-tape for things that move and shouldn't and wd-40 for things that should move and don't".
WD-40 isn't a lubricant. It often works to get something un-stuck, but then you need to still clean and lubricate the parts to keep it working.
Why this one?
IANAL, but people use it on squeaky hinges and knobs and locks, but it sits in the mechanism and collects dust. It turns into a gummy mess eventually, which is the last thing you would want in a lock.
IANALPL
That reminds me, I haven't watched one of his videos in a while.
You really shouldn't be using WD-40 for that.
This is it ☝️
I imagine it gunks up the lock mechanism. I have had to eventually replace locks I used it in.
How do they feel about Ballistol?
Never heard of it, but I use Tri-flow and Houdini liberally. If Ballistol doesn't leave a residue it's probably fine
Well it's an oil that leaves a bit of a layer to protect metal against rust, so probably not lol.
Video game content creators hate reading ( especially controls ).
Edit:
There are plenty of times I'll watch someone play a game and then get confused about how to do something in it because they either don't look at the controls in settings or breeze past it or don't read what a quest entails. They just play on in a braindead like trance and get confused and angry as to why the game that gives you everything you need to know doesn't tell them something vital like a certain control they need.
Teachers hate parents.
Vice versa
As a parent, I don't hate the teachers. Other kids parents need to get their shit together though. The amount of homophobia and racism casually thrown around by the other kids is appalling.
Same as it ever was.
Now playing Talking Heads - Once in a Lifetime
The kind of parents that think their little crotchspawn is an angel and every bad grade is the teacher's fault.
Don't get me wrong, there are bad teachers (had a couple both as student and as a parent), but mostly are doing their best. Or at least not be purposely bad.
The devil on my kids shoulder killed the angel and then hung herself.
Not saying that teacher didn't suck, but method can be important in earlier math classes. So much of early math is about developing number sense and just understanding what is being represented by a mathematical statement. If a method is a stand in for a larger level comprehension, say, showing that 3*2 is also represented by three rows of two, ie
🟦🟦
🟦🟦
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Just regurgitating a memorized number doesn't show that deeper understanding.
Got a vasectomy. I broke the cycle yall.
As a game dev I hate capital-G Gamers™
Edit: before you feel personally attacked and don’t know what a Capital-G Gamer is. Read this https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Capital-G+Gamer
https://www.reveddit.com/v/OutOfTheLoop/comments/cpu6g0/whats_the_deal_with_calling_people_capitalg_gamers/ewy51j9/#t1_ewy51j9
Truck drivers hate "four wheelers" because they don't know how to drive.
When they're not in their semi they generally drive a four wheeled vehicle their very own self, presumably being hated on by other truck drivers.
eh, other truck drivers aren't much better. biggest takeaway getting my CDL was realizing just how low the standards are to drive a truck
I used to do fleet management. It's so bad. I never would have believed how many people take clearance signs as suggestions.
And the class D (regular license) drivers test should include a "show me where the truck driver can and can't see you" portion.
Do trucks not have the stickers saying 'if you can't see my mirror I can't see you' on them? I see that all the time.
I haven't read the DOT code in a while, so I genuinely don't recall if they're mandated, but I recall that all my trucks had them.
This is of absolutely no use in preventing people from a close merge on the passenger side where the driver definitely cannot see. Often the driver's first indication that this has occurred is the crunch. I've never seen one of these accidents that wasn't completely avoidable.
These drivers wouldn't care if they knew how to read this sticker.
My regular license says class c
I've always wanted to drive a semi so this may be good
Drivers hate everyone else on the road.
Users are the enemy of IT workers.
Guitarists hate the G string
i love systemd
You fail the test.
I love systemd too but I can't remember how to use journald :(
Engineers hate architects
I hated Product Managers as first but learned how they can be a valuable asset. Especially when dealing with customers or executives. They can handle all the crap throw at us and just filter down what we need know.
Microbiologists hate wild microbes everywhere
SLTs hate pacifiers. They're horrible for a child's teeth, leads to costantly open mouths, are bad for posture etc.. Most patients' parents who come into therapy are good about weaning their kids but some don't and don't know about the harm either
Tech support hates boomers and zoomers
Human being here. I hate people.
/s
pulmonologists hate vapes
Data? No, because there is none. And I have read every.single.study. They are all fucked in some way or another whether it's methodology or the stats or the sample size/composition. Not a single real in vivo study. None. There is exactly one researcher in Greece doing decent work, and that's it. I took a career change from my previous and now present career and worked in pharma and biotech research.
Former smoker, current vaper. I know inhaling anything other than clean air isn't good for me, and I know nicotine addiction isn't good. I plan on quitting, and I'm making decent progress to that point.
But it bugs the shit out of me when people try to act like it's worse than cigarettes. It's not. Shitty Chinese vapes marketed to kids that we don't know the ingredients of? Sure, ban em. Black market vapes made in some dudes garage with oil? Absolutely track em down and end that man's whole career.
But properly made, regulated vape juice in a rebuildable tank? Leave me the fuck alone. Please. Please do not take the thing that has helped millions of people quit smoking!
Can you link me any decent articles to help the next time someone says some dumb reactionary shit?
Yeah alas the subreddit for it did a lot of the heavy lifting for me - they took apart every study (I helped) and had some good sidebar (or was it pinned, been so long I cannot remember) info to counter the "dumb reactionary shit." I am pretty sure the sub got baninated, but I haven't been back to reddit since I rage quit after the API debacle.
When I first started vaping in 2011 (after smoking two packs a day for decades), there were a lot of solid, research-based web boards, but I think social media killed them, as it did so much.
That's a real shame about the web boards. I miss real forums :(
Can we do this for all the other drugs as well?
Inb4 popcorn lung lmao.
(Diacetyl, the chemical responsible, is also found in cigarettes, 2,000x more than in vape juice, and cigarettes have never caused popcorn lung. The only recorded case afaik comes from the powder form being used in a popcorn factory with no respirators, and it acted like asbestos sorta where it settles in the lungs. That's a far cry from the liquid form that was in some vape juice before the freakout, which has never shown to cause popcorn lung, just like it doesn't with cigarettes.)
Inb4 vitamin
A oilE acetate [fixx'd, was in a rush and done fucked up. Close enough though lol.](Black market weed carts made by some dickhead in his garage who didn't know what he was doing. Legalize it already ffs.)
My guy/gal/nonbinary pal: pls see the references in this https://medicpro.london/2025/05/08/vaping-and-popcorn-lung-separating-fact-from-fiction/ Diacetyl has been widely banned since 2014 in all but the most trash Chinese vape juice, and quality vendors never used it in the first place.
Also the supposed cases of popcorn come from one source. Some dude in California who cut his cannabis juice with it, and in every single case the kids that got sick were using his juice in vape pens, not actually vaping. It's Friday night here and I'd rather not track the story down but if you really want it I'll find it.
As a former life long smoker, vaping (which is the front line treatment for cessation in the UK) saved my life. Now, however, the shops pushing disposable vapes with super high nicotine salts on to kids - which is illegal almost everywhere - they need to die in a fire. The kids don't get hooked on "vape;' they get hooked on nicotina because those damn things are the equivalent of smoking two or three regular cigarets in one puff.
Thanks for backing up what I said.
Though it was never popcorn lung from the weed vapes, like I said that idiot used vitamin E acetate (think I mistyped and said A earlier but same diff.) Didn't know he was in CA though I thought he was midwest.
Are you a lung doctor or are you someone who vapes and wants to be able to maintain the illusion that it isn't harmful?
I am someone who used to do medical research for a lot of money. I've interviewed chairs of FDA committees, trial designers, and active trial leads on phase III (mostly) research in pharma and biologics. I still have access to PupMed via my old friends.
Teachers hate AI
Physical therapists hate motorcycles.
RFK?
But transplant surgeons love them 😇
And palaeoecologists hate people that borrow our lab, leave shit everywhere, and try to take it over. For FUCKS SAKE.
Electrical engineers hate OrCAD, seriously. I keep a spare file on all of my work computers collecting when I see someone on line saying OrCAD sucks. Brings me comfort when the program crashes for the 5th time that day
Metrologists hate Analysts
All you have to do is rinse the LC with water my guy...
Neurophysiologist hate action potentials.
To be fair, just because you (generally, if you do cool stuff) want to sort the signals you recorded from a brain, a lot of times this messy annoying and takes up a lot of time. Saw quite some people get pretty mad about sorting spikes
Chefs hate everything and everyone, but especially instagram.
My hell is a land of dishes that were sent back to be reheated.
I, a warehouse worker, hate OXO for slapping every warning label under the sun on their boxes. I saw a box of oven mitts labeled "fragile" along with like five other warnings. Not even a one size fits all box either, this had custom printing for the product.
Also Crown for making equipment that is so ineptly fly-by-wire there is what feels like half a second delay between input and response.
People saying users are the bane of IT professionals are just antisocial whiners. The real bane of an IT professional is fucking printers. Fuck printers.
Pharmacy: PBMs
Proctologists hate deodarant cans
Elementary teachers hate full moons.
Differential cooling rates.
Data Engineers hate delimiters in data
Bike mechanics hate Slime
Cell biologists hate contaminants.
Paramedic - being awake.
Anesthesiology: we hate add-on cases
probably overinflated, egoistitical, spineless, tech leaders.
Excel users: Blank cells in worksheets, leading / trailing spaces, broken desktop links in shared files, bad formatting, bad conditional formating, merged cells*, locked workbooks from 5 years ago someone lost the password too, looking at you Bob!
For admins, it's users. Period
Surprisingly, ChatGPT is the mortal enemy of a lot of machine learning researchers. It gives people a bad impression about what the field is, poisons future training data, and gives AI researchers who make truly remarkable and useful things a bad reputation because everyone "hates AI" when they really hate the stupid VC backed circlejerk that becomes inevitable in a society like this.
Do toxicologists hate mushrooms?
Instructional designers hate Articulate's Storyline 360
Typewriter repair men used to hate word processors.
Never understood the deal with q tips. Like, just don't shove it all the way to your eardrum and don't push wax inside?
Everyone hate quacks.
Drumpf serving as US “President”…