So far, I’ve only seen one of those. They’re so stupid looking that if it had been by itself, I wouldn’t have been able to tell if it was meant as a joke. They also had one of those “thin blue line” American flag stickers, though, so that cleared it right up.
dont forget thier lifted giant trucks, that are 1-3feet off the ground. we get it you bought a giant truck to look "masculine" and your wife is a soccer mom and a karen.
I'm Canadian, they use a black flag up here too. I don't know or care about proper flag usage, I just know if I see a black Canadian flag on someone's car or clothing that they:
At this point in my life I couldn’t care less about the flag code. I just like to be discrete. But as people have pointed out, there are meanings that people are already using it for of which I fundamentally disagree with so….
Ugh. I hate it when people downvote others for asking legitimate questions. I didn’t know it had a special meaning either, so thanks for taking one for the team. 🤷♂️
ETA: Regular Tesla drivers I give the benefit of the doubt to, because they might have bought their car before they realized Musk is a Nazi dickhead man-child. But cybertruck drivers basically knew and didn't care (or still fanboi'd over him).
I saw a cybertruck the other day with a "Bought it before we knew Elon was crazy" bumper sticker on it. I wanna give them the benefit of the doubt, since I myself was pro-Elon once upon a time, but c'mon. I know not everyone stays plugged into the news cycle, but you didn't know until after you bought the cybertruck?
A certain little moustache was generally popular and harmless before Hitler came along, but after the war it forever became the Hitler moustache and shaving one's face in that style nowadays invites the comparison whether or not one means it that way.
TIL Trumps father wore a Hitler mustache until 1950.
After World War II, toothbrush variants were worn by a small number of notable individuals, e.g. American real-estate developer Fred Trump (who wore a split variant), and former president of Zimbabwe Robert Mugabe (covering only the philtrum).
Trump wore a toothbrush mustache from c. 1935 to 1950, about when it fell out if fashion due yo associations with Adolf Hitler
In the UK you can see what year most cars were bought based on the license plate. I absolutely give Tesla owners the benefit of the doubt if it was bought before this year - although Musk showed something of his true personality in 2018.
But the other day I saw a dude driving a Tesla Y with a '25 plate and I absolutely judged him for buying a car fronted by an actual nazi.
Yup, that's exactly what I was thinking of from 2018.
Musk: "I'll build a submarine to save them, then everyone will love me even more!"
Cave Rescue Expert: "That's not an especially practical solution given the situational needs of this resuce operation."
Musk: "... er... well... pedo!"
and the hyperloop scam was even more unforgivable, basically robbed california of a high speed rail system, which was blocked by trumps 1st term elain chao. and now its just a half-assed attempt with no progression.
ive seen many teslar drivers bought thier regular tesla cars/suvs after musk went full nazi, like 1-2 years after he bought xitter. they know better, but they are very super-ignorant demographic, apparently alot of them in my area when i look into whos drivers, its asians, im asian.(its like a hybrid of ignorant but still aware of the news of the current events and still purchasing said item/services because it previously had brand recognition thats all they cared about, at the same time low info on the politicla spectrum)
On two occasions I made a louder-than-necessary comment to my kids to stay away from those people (MAGA hats too) while they were within earshot and then listed reasons why. Got some dirty looks, but no one ever approached me. Because they're a bunch of feckless cowards.
i seen so many of them on suvs in a blue area, even on the uniforms of tradespeople who does maitenance for grocery stories, dont want to see it , we already know/.
For real. I'm willing to bet most don't even know it's from the Punisher, they just like it because it's a skull, or because they saw the word "Punisher" on the sales tag and thought that was cool.
Had a lot of those come through when I worked at Lowe's. Many were indeed working trucks, but they were towing monster loads, not throwing shit in the back.
Yeah I see them parked at my office and always think - someone drove that enormous truck here, then went up the elevator to their office job. What the fuck?
I apologize for the misandry but also we have a saying down here - the bigger the truck, the smaller the cock. If you don't need a work truck for your work, you ought not get a work truck, it's stupid expensive and gas guzzling. I judge you.
We have a few of those here in the Netherlands and it's so ridiculous it's almost sad. These big American trucks really aren't fit for Dutch roads. They're too large for the roads, they don't fit in any parking lot, and they look ridiculous next to any normal car. I could sort of understand that a farmer would have them, but even then it can't be that useful because it must be a hassle any time the truck needs to pass through a city or village.
Do you judge people driving clean, scuff free vans as well or only truck drivers?
I use my truck for work but other than having a roof rack you probably wouldn't be able to tell it's a work truck from the outside. When it gets dirty, I wash it, and when it gets dents or scratches I fix them. I don't want it to look like a beater.
A 4x4 truck with its big wheels and high ground clearance are features that allow the truck to move off-road. These features have the unfortunate side effect of making them dangerous to other road users, and very uneconomical / environmentally unfriendly. They also take up a lot of space.
Work vans and most cars are capable of driving on a building site or track.
Hood height, engine size, and the physical exterior dimensions of many vans are similar to those of pickup trucks. When used for work, it often just comes down to personal preference. One key difference is towing capacity - most vans are limited to around 750 kg, whereas trucks typically offer much more. Mine can tow up to 3000 kg.
Edit: Also, rear visibility in a van is much worse due to the enclosed cargo area. With a truck, you pretty much have 360-degree visibility.
most vans are limited to around 750 kg, whereas trucks typically offer much more. Mine can tow up to 3000 kg.
Yeah that’s bullshit. Vans that can do the max of 3500kg are common as fuck. You probably looked at the wrong spec. 750kg is the max for a trailer without brakes, regardless of type of car. There are usually two numbers on the spec sheet, one for max towing weight for unbraked trailers and one for braked trailers.
True, my bad. Many of the most commonly used vans here can tow 2500kg as long as the trailer has brakes. Anything more than that is rare though. Even many of the other mid-size pickups can't tow 3000kg.
It may depend on local laws. Here the total weight of the combination (car + trailer) with a B+E driving license is 7000Kg, and 3500Kg for a car. That means you can have a van with 3500Kg capacity plus a 3500Kg trailer. So naturally there are vans that are built to match the max spec.
But the front/hood is much shorter in length. Also, people driving that type of van are much more likely to be doing so in a professional capacity and are significantly less likely to be asshole drivers fucking around with their phone while driving. People are bad drivers at baseline quite frequently, but if someone is on the job in a van used for commercial purposes, they're more likely to at least be paying attention and not speeding everywhere.
Edit: I marked up your image to illustrate the point made much more eloquently in the video. Because of the length of the hood, the truck has a much longer distance of road obstructed from view in front of it, and this is with a standard truck that doesn't have one of the very popular lift kits (and assuming that the driver is relatively tall.)
If there’s a 70 cm tall child standing in front of the vehicle, then in either case the child either would or wouldn’t be visible - there’s effectively no difference. It doesn’t really matter whether you can see 2 or 3 meters more of the road surface from one vehicle or the other. In both cases, the hood height is the same, and that’s what determines the safety in the event of a pedestrian collision.
Also, with a van, the rear visibility is greatly reduced compared to a pickup. You could say that can be compensated for with cameras - but that same argument applies to the front visibility as well.
Let's also keep in mind where this discussion started from: a commenter was taking issue with clean, scuff-free pickups as if a work truck couldn't look like that.
Ford makes (or at least made) and E-350 van. It can tow anything your truck can. And seat 11 people. And keep your equipment secured and safe from the elements. And it has a backup camera.
I'm not American either - I'm from Finland. I’ve been to the Netherlands, and I can’t quite imagine owning a truck there either.
However, your criticism was about clean, scuff-free trucks broadly. If you had said that you judge people for owning a truck when they have no practical need for one, I wouldn’t have any issue with that. But that’s not what you said.
I don’t own one of those gigantic American trucks, but a mid-size one - think Toyota Hilux, Ford Ranger, Mitsubishi L200, Nissan Navara, or Isuzu D-Max. The external dimensions and hood height on those are comparable to similarly sized work vans. So when someone needs a vehicle capable of hauling cargo, it’s basically a choice between a truck and a van - and there’s not much difference between the two in terms of pedestrian safety.
I’d even argue a truck might be safer, because you generally have better all-around visibility. Vans tend to have very limited rear visibility due to the enclosed cargo area. You could argue that a van is more convenient for hauling certain types of cargo, but that’s a separate discussion about practicality - not safety.
Cigarette smokers. Mostly because I hate the smell and smokers have their sense of smell damaged so much they don't notice. And sometimes when it sticks to their clothing I just can't be around them at all.
Worked with a guy that was a heavy smoker. When the first winter came around I didn't have a good spot to put my jacket. He had a 2 hook cubicle-wall-hang style coat hook. He moved it between our cubicles so I could use it too. I used it once. My jacket reeked at the end of the day.
I also dislike the smell, but I'm a lot more sympathetic to tobacco use than I used to be because stimulants help to correct low executive function and these people are probably managing their disability the only way they know how.
dude holy shit. that actually explains so much about the smokers in my life. they never got the kind of help they needed because when they needed help people just thought they were lazy/stupid. i bet thats where a lot of their negative self talk stems from too. thanks for the new perspective.
I really love how there's one conservative going through the comments and ascribing a solitary downvote to any mention of conservative values, like trucks, crosses, Cybertrucks (cause it's super specific) and the like.
Hey asshole. How does it feel to be part of a community that hates your fucking guts?
I feel you— but also what does this declaration of hate garner us? Is it anything beyond the base tribalistic fervor: “we are strong fear us”. It makes sense if we were in person— but I fear this is how we create silos.
If there are conservatives here, and we continually assault them directly then perhaps they’ll leave— and while personally I may feel that would make the discourse more favorable, they do not disappear; they leave and find a more homogeneous pasture. We shouldn’t isolate ourselves lest we contribute to make debate a toxic no man’s land.
The paradox of tolerance relies on a lot of assumptions that don't really work in reality. We don't tend to see more open societies have more intolerance, quite the opposite. Part of the problem is that "the intolerant" is not a single group, but many groups that hate each other. And those who are intolerant towards the intolerant are themselves part of the intolerant.
For a less-political example, let's imagine hypothetically that Lemmy is very pro-linux. However, some people who absolutely hate linux show up and start posting anti-linux memes. These people get insulted, downvoted, and eventually banned by others on Lemmy, because they're showing intolerance towards linux.
But then what happens to those anti-linux people? They go off and created their own forums, and talk about how intolerant lemmy is to people who don't use linux. So whenever a linux user shows up on those forums, they're inevitably banned. The result of intolerance of the intolerant is that they remain intolerant, and now the tolerant have become hard to distinguish from them, and there's no way for pro-linux forces to be part of the conversation anti-linux people are having - allowing them to create their own culty filter bubble.
Now imagine an alternative - instead of banning the anti-linux people, pro-linux lemmy users decide to engage with them and correct misconceptions about linux. After all, linux, like many other topics, can get kind of complicated, and linux users need to remember that not everyone has the same background knowledge that they do about the topic. Sure, some linux haters would be persistent, but maybe others would be like "hey, these linux folks are actually kind of cool and helpful, I want to be more like them." That may sound idealistic, but I think that's a lot closer to what we see in reality - intolerance thrives in closed off spaces, and dies in open ones.
You’re missing the point entirely, it’s not a paradox, nor is it so philosophical, it’s a very basic social contract. If you offer tolerance then you receive tolerance, if you offer intolerance then you are owed nothing but intolerance. It’s simply reciprocity.
I generally want good things for all people. However, modern conservatives in my neck of the woods have grown increasingly vile over the course of my lifetime. I like the idea that they might feel isolated because the ideas they champion are backward and negative. And because they seemingly delight in causing harm to others, especially groups who have less power.
There's some verses in the Bible that tell you to be wary of those that come dressed clean and godly, that pray in public, and make a spectacle of their worship.
I forget exactly the words but it is basically that yeah, they're filthy and ungodly inside.
I am convinced most people aren't religious, or at least agnostic. If they truly were they'd not be living like they are and wouldn't give a shit about anything but their holy book. I call it being alibi-religious.
I used to wear a cross every day, and i believed... until i realized everyone else around me were all hypocrites for one reason or another and no one actually practiced what they preached.
MAGA gear. A Tesla, esp a Cyberdump. A Calvin Pissing sticker. A Jesus shirt; crosses display faith but a shirt or hat says "this is my whole entire identity". Any Suburban, F150, Super Duty, or similarly oversized American SUV or pickup. I know you never haul anything and your groceries are all in the cab.
For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.
1 Peter 2:9-10
But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light. Once you were not a people, but now you are God’s people; once you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy.
For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.
1 Peter 2:9-10
But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light. Once you were not a people, but now you are God’s people; once you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy.
I mean, I can only assume that what they are referring to is Bhagavad Gita 9:27:
Whatever you do, whatever you eat, whatever you offer in sacrifice, whatever you give, whatever austerity you practice, O Arjuna, do it as an offering to Me [Lord Krishna].
How to recognize a true believer, from Matthew 7:16-20:
16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.
You see some fantastic outfits in Edinburgh. I think it's the inability of the locals to accept that sometimes it's hot. They don't really get the idea.
The best I ever saw was someone wearing shorts, white trainers, and a black bomber jacket. Very much giving off a vibe "it's bloody hot outside but I only own the one coat, so I'm wearing it"
I'm Brazilian and live in a hot coastal city, so I usually pay attention to people wearing hoodies at weird times of the day. Bonus points if they're wearing a hoodie and shorts (it usually mean that guy is concealing something in it, if the guy was actually cold they wouldn't be wearing shorts).
I also tend to be kinda annoyed at people with christian stickers on their cars.
Oh man, you'd hate the Midwest. Aside from the obvious reasons, there's a baffling culture of white dudes who only wear shorts and hoodies no matter the temp outside.
I'm one of those strange folks, but I'm not wearing a hoodie in the summer lol. For me, it's a compromise between sensory issues and running warm. I hate wearing long pants, and I don't really mind the cold on my legs, so I wear a hoodie to stay warm and shorts to be comfortable. I'm not putting on a show for anyone, but lots of kids in the midwest absolutely do it for attention.
Eh, I wouldn't be concerned about something like that if I lived in the US, here tho having a hoodie and no pants is the telltale sign of some dude up to no good. Hell, the last time some dude tried stealing bikes from our apartment building and we caught him in the act he was actually wearing an orange hoodie and shorts lmao
I work in a bakery. Bakeries are hot as fuck, so I wear shorts. They also open early as fuck, so I’m frequently walking to work sometime between 3:45 and 5:15, when it’s almost always very chilly.
Sweatshirt and shorts is basically my uniform, plus I look annoyed and I’m out in the middle of the night and fully sober. I imagine I’d put off a vibe I’m not intending to for you, lol.
Congrats on being the first response in the top twenty or so comments to not reference politics or religion lol
oh wait you did in the second part, oh well you get a pass. this whole thread is "Wedding like conservatives" which, like, yeah i get it, I don't either, but it's really boring to read
Yeah, I find that shit offensive. It should be a private matter. Just being comfortable allowing it to be seen, even if you aren't outgoing about it, tells me we aren't compatible. I'll still treat you with respect, but I know we are very different people.
Now, if you're the kind of asshole who will ring my doorbell about it, I will tell you to "get fucked," and close the door. The sheer arrogance is astounding.
The only exception to this would be for motorcycles. I get that they want to be heard so that some driver doesn't pull out right in front and cut them off, or attempt to change lanes right into them.
You cannot seriously buy into all of the values that Canada, as a country, has demonstrated for the last several hundred years.
You have to be the biggest ignoramus in the world to ignore how many social problems Canada (as an entity) is responsible for and fails to address in a meaningful ongoing way.
I mean, it can mean opposition to the US way, which is basically the old British Empire way. The polls bear this out, too - patriotism is correlated with voting left and tolerance in Canada.
Not for many decades, and things have changed a lot. That's what I'm saying, new Canada is kind of opposite to old Canada (which flew the Union Jack until 1965), and old Canada is dying out.
You could argue that's not the actual state of things, but like I said, the hard data indicates most people at least see it that way.
A ute with no mud on it. Either it's brand new, or they have no idea what the point of a ute is, so they bought an overpriced car which is worse for them than an average station wagon
Had to look up what a ute was, for any Americans it's a pickup truck. And I was going to say the exact same thing, judging people for having a spotless pickup.
Why buy a piece of plastic that sits in the box, and that box sits on a shelf. Theres literally no point to them. You can walk into the mall, look at all the pop figures in each store, and you just had the same experience as you would have if they sat in your house.
Granted, I also can’t stand their art style, but you just described every piece of decorative art. The only requirement of art is for someone to say it is.
I used to work retail and was helping a college aged guy pick out some new headphones. He was deciding between some Beats and some Bose headphones. I literally asked him "do you want something that sounds good or looks good" and was amazed he actually said "looks good". So I reluctantly sold him the Beats.
I asked for Beats back when i was a teen for my birthday. They were fairly new still and everyone thought it was so cool i had a pair. Eventually they got old and I replaced them with Audiotechnica headphones that were a fraction of the price and holy shit I never knew how poor the sound quality of Beats were before that moment lol.
MAGA gear or by association those stupid shirts, hats, and stickers that say “F your feelings” or “we the people have had enough” etc. most people I work and live around that’s there basic fashion and culture.
In the UK our car number plates actually tell you when the car was first registered - the third and fourth digits are either the year or the year +50. Normally I object to this, since it was only introduced as the result of pressure from British Leyland to try and sell more cars, but it serves as a handy way of instantly categorising anyone with a, say, '23 or newer cuntmobile.
I seriously thought about this and in my opinion, no. With it upside down, the head opening would be right at your privates making them more like pantalettes (old timey open-crotch underware).
Same, sort of. For me it varies, some is supposed to be a status symbol and that I find lame.
But some are signals about a person; Bass Pro, fisherman; Backwoods, down to smoke; Burton, snowboarder; Venture, skateboarder; etc. These I see more as a band shirt, like "hey I like that thing/band too, wanna hang out?" These I actually like, they can be informative.
And some are just free shirts from work itself, vendors to your work, events, etc. Maybe they just got off and are still in "uniform" (if you can call a company t-shirt a uniform lmao), maybe their job sells a lot of Kawasaki and they sent shirts to the dealership they work at, this falls more into the informative category and indicate possible hobbies. Same with the event shirts, it's more about a memory of the event, it indicates possible hobbies like running or biking, and hell a free shirt is a free shirt.
Hell even the status symbol shirts, I guess do the same thing in signaling something about a person, but imo it signals that
you're vacuous and live your life for the image you have for others instead of focusing on yourself.
I mean, a motorcycle is transportation. It can transport maybe you and one passenger (and some light cargo, I know), but it's more practical in a car-centric service economy than walking everywhere. They're also pretty fuel efficient for being so light, and fairly dangerous if people don't notice your tiny ass (which is an advantage of all the noise)
I have literally zero negative or positive opinions about Harleys as motorcycles, I don't own one or know anyone who does, I don't even have a motorcycle license so feel free to correct me if you have a differing opinion -- to me, they just are what some people enjoy. It's the... quality of the people who tend to enjoy them that gives me the ick. Like a bar that didn't quite fully kick the Nazis out. I know they aren't all Nazis, but there are still a disturbing number of Nazis. Or at the very least, American neo-nazis are not frequently depicted riding crotch rockets from overseas.
That's true, a motorcycle is transportation. And, I suppose if you just go for a ride around the city taking pleasure at annoying people with the sound of your loud pipes, it serves a "useful" function for you, in that it brings you pleasure.
I have literally zero negative or positive opinions about Harleys as motorcycles, I don't own one or know anyone who does, I don't even have a motorcycle license so feel free to correct me if you have a differing opinion
Ok, well that's where I differ. Harleys are terrible motorcycles. They use engine technology from the 1960s while bikes from every other manufacturer use tech that's decades more advanced. The power to weight ratios of their bikes are absolutely terrible, and not just because they're cruisers, every other cruiser out there has a better power to weight ratio. Then, even worse is the price. The performance you get per dollar from a Harley is just awful.
With Harley you're paying for the brand name. You get a bike that in every measurable way is worse than a bike by virtually any other manufacturer, but because Harley has done such a good job of establishing a certain image, people will overpay for an underperforming bike as long as it has that brand name attached, and as long as it has the Harley sound and feel. (And that "sound and feel" is basically an engine that is going to shake the fillings out of your teeth because it's using ancient technology that every other manufacturer has ditched.)
The Nazi-adjacency is part of the mystique. They're the "outlaw motorcycle gang" brand, and a lot of the outlaw motorcycle gangs are not just violent, they're also racist, sexist, homophobic, and so-on. It's really the brand for dentists and lawyers who have boring office jobs but want to spend money to feel like they're badasses. They're not going to commit heinous crimes, but they can dress up like the people who do, and feel a bit of a thrill that maybe the people that see them on their bikes are going to be a bit afraid.
I've heard part of the reason some people choose a Harley is because the sound makes them more noticeable in traffic, as a safety thing.
The merch is fucking stupid, but at least the noise does have a safety benefit, plenty of motorcycle riders get killed because other drivers didn't notice them -- good luck not noticing a Harley in close proximity.
Want to look like a bad-ass tough guy [please don't look into this], without having to actually do anything other than buy merch and possibly buy an overpriced motorcycle? Just buy Harley Davison gear, and we promise people won't actually be laughing at you.
I would go so far as to say anything Harley Davidson related, even their motorcycles. They are over priced and under performing compared to literally every thing else.
Yeah, I was on the fence about that. If someone has just a motorcycle and none of the gear, I might give them a pass, based on which motorcycle and how they have it set up.
Pretty much 'anything' clothing. I guess if it's a clothing brand of good quality and there is no choice except to wear it with the logo they stick on it might be an exception, but anything outside of that is basically paying to belong to some club with basically no membership requirements except spending money.
Right, if it's good enough it can quit advertising itself.
Really the only reason for a logo like that is to advertise to other people that you are wearing good quality. Upper income people who can afford actual high quality can't effectively 'show off' that way, so they usually content themselves with flying under the radar while still comfortably fitting in wherever they feel like, or showing of in other ways like cars and vacations, but mid or lower income didn't have as much leeway and have to take advantage of what they have available if they want to feel either part of a group or better than others.
Ford Ranger drivers, and to a lesser extent large dual-cab utes in general. Cashed up bogans to a man. They just have a reckless disregard for other road users and take up far too much space. They're all registered as 'commercial', so they're a tax dodge as well.
Probably. It's a fairly different market in Aus than in the US, although we're seeing an increase in Dodge RAMs and the like being imported, usually by the same cashed-up bogans that have apparently decided that Rangers aren't compensatory enough. I realise even those are fairly 'small' by US standards. Y'all are insane with your trucks as daily drivers.
I don't know what they look like over there, but in the US, Dodge Rams are often oversized trucks. The mirrors stick out like they're trying to high five every vehicle (though useful if you're towing.) They're often lifted, dually (double back tires) with oversized exhaust. Drivers sometimes like to "roll coal" which means to spew thick black diesel exhaust everywhere. It's as obnoxious as it sounds. Is that what you're seeing there?
Pretty much that, except 'rolling coal' would get them a massive fine over here. Edit: not a fine initially, but they'll tell you to fix it, but it is finable ($495 and 2 demerit points)
You probably could get fined for it over here, but that's going to vary by each county within each state. I don't live in California, but they're known for much stricter emissions regulations for instance. Where I live, they don't even test or regulate emissions.
Cybersecurity people with iphones. Not strictly judging them but it is a grim reminder that even the "professionals" barely understand the technological privacy dystopia we live in.
I work in IT and I harshly judge anyone else in IT who willingly chooses an iPhone.
When I started with my current company they gave me my choice of iPhone as a company phone (basically last year's model at no cost, or I could pay a bit and get the latest model).... when I asked if Android was an option I was told "oh, no... Android is open source, so it isn't secure". If I didn't need the paycheck I would have quit right then. I just stared at my boss and didn't know what to say. I mean, I knew what I wanted to say, but I also didn't want to tell my new boss that he's a dumbass.
So now I carry 2 phones and last year I broke my Android phone and had to use the iPhone as my daily driver for a couple of months. I figured I'd come to appreciate the iPhone but no, there was almost no redeeming qualities.
This is a german thing, but "Camp David" shirts are the first thing that come to mind. There is a good possibility the person wearing it is the most dense and arrogant person you'll ever meet.
Könnt ihr doch sicher bestätigen Germanbros, oder?
Anyone who pays the ridiculous up charge so they can provide free advertising for any big brand. If you paid $50 bucks for a regular ass shirt with nothing but a Nike logo on it then you’re a fucking rube.
Awfully judgemental of you to think poorly of us folk who just happen to like precision, appreciate good engineering or maybe have a small penis and require lavish symbols of wealth and status to prove we'e a more valuable human being than you in symbolic caps lock.
My rolex justifies my existence and represents how worthy of everything i am and anyone who disagrees is a jealous underling rolexless peasant demon.
We're just better people because we purchased an overpriced obsolete piece of 19th century technology and put it on our wrists.
This time measuring device i display on myself will show my toxic paternal figures and all those peera that disapproved of me that i am not a small child that's starved for validation, but a big man who is extremely confident.
Also, since i have a rolex, I'm more entitled to all ypur money than you are. Give me your money. You'll just squander it.
Note to self: buy a 3 dollar casio digital watch and write 'rolex' on it with a sharpie. Next time someone with a real one is spotted, compliment their taste, try to force things in common and call them my hero. Request autograph when they leave.
If someone carries a gun and they have a normal low-threat job and live in a normal low-threat suburb: wow, that person lives in a fantasy world, and is just looking for an excuse to hurt someone. What an absolute loser.
Hm. Cop uniforms. I accurately appraise judge them to likely be problematic in all kinds of ways that might threaten my safety and certainly that of others
It's not judgement so much as a red flag, but those sunglasses that are like a solid cylinder wrapping around your head. They're popular with manosphere dudebros, which is unfortunate because I actually kind of like them.
Lifted pickups that I know cost more than a modest house. It's the same as buying a sports car, except you're also posing as a humble working man simultaneously.
Big lifted truck with spacers, no tow hitch, and a perfect unlined bed. Why the fuck do you have a big shiny truck and flake on your promise to help your friend move because you don't want to scratch your precious unlined bed. I've had more luck asking a rando with a squarebody Chevy and made an even better better friend.
Any kind of of bumper sticker collection on the trunk(boot) lid.
One sticker with a snarky or clever saying is fine, but I do instantly judge anyone with a collage as a tacky person with poor taste and no sense of boundaries.
It matters not if I tend to agree with the advertised messages, it’s just a huge red flag to me.
Bags are very different to me than cars for some reason. They are more personal, perhaps, as one can usually see the person and the busy bag together.
Thinking about it, perhaps I see bumper stickers as impersonal and maybe even agressive (probably passive-aggressive even). A cute frog or two is vastly different to me than a collage of political sayings and it hardly matters if I happen to agree with the particular statements.
Maybe it’s a matter of taste or perhaps I feel disdain because it looks like political activity but is actually utterly worthless at changing minds?
Someone normal looking wearing clothing that references a nerdy hobby/interest: this person is self-confident enough to not be afraid to admit to having a nerdy side.
If someone seems extremely socially awkward and is wearing that kind of clothing it's different. But if it's someone who looks like a soccer mom but she's wearing a Critical Role tee shirt, she's cool. Or if it's a guy who looks like a construction worker with an Anime character: nice one, dude.
There's a LOT of things. Those are mostly shallow and me being a bad person though. I really judge people when they have super Christian clothing with tiny pieces of random supposedly important Bible verses. Those "don't tread on me" stickers. Really tacky shit in general. I wear a really obnoxious Goku/Vegeta hoodie sometimes, to make sure that the shallowest people will avoid me. I'm a hypocrite lol
I don’t think I’m better than you for wearing a hat, I’m bald and a sunburn on your scalp is a mother fucker, I think I’m better than you for other reasons entirely.
I had a one-night-stand on a cruise once that was fun but almost ruined when he took off his shirt and there was a cross necklace on his chest. Missionary was basically my vampire ass trying not to get burned by the cross.
Glasses. (I don’t know, I’m prejudiced for people with glasses.)
Old women.
I could probably come up with a lot more. We’re all prejudiced in some way. It’s the things that we’re prejudiced about and how attached we are to those prejudices that define us.
One of my closest friends is a nurse (now general practice but did years in hospital A&E) and she wore crocs all the time. Changed my response to them completely.
Shut the fuck up. Live your life in an ethical way, we do not need to see a sticker asserting what every decent person already knows is right
I find people who broadcast their ethical positions rarely live by them. Being ethical is a series of decisions on how you act, not what you tell people.
Feel free to do whatever you want man, im not gonna stop you. They asked and i answered just for fun, i just think this way but you're never gonna see me bother anyone neither in real life or online for their choices. It's just that this comes to my mind when i see it. Have a nice day
Q: Do dreadlocks require special care?
A: Yes, dreadlocks require regular maintenance, including washing, conditioning, and retwisting.
Q: Can dreadlocks be removed?
A: Yes, dreadlocks can be removed, but it is a time-consuming and potentially damaging process.
Q: Why do dreadlocks sometimes smell?
A: Dreadlocks can smell if they are not properly washed and maintained. Regular washing and conditioning can help prevent odor.
often from not having time to properly dry to scalp, or not realizing the hair wasn't dry*
Q: Are dreadlocks a sign of neglect?
A: No, dreadlocks can be a deliberate and well-maintained hairstyle.
All of that plus any "Punisher" logo on clothing or vehicles.
Especially that punisher skull motif with the Trump hair. That takes the cringe to a new level.
The punisher would shoot them for that and not look back
So far, I’ve only seen one of those. They’re so stupid looking that if it had been by itself, I wouldn’t have been able to tell if it was meant as a joke. They also had one of those “thin blue line” American flag stickers, though, so that cleared it right up.
I thought you were making this up, but no, we're really exploring new frontiers of cringe
It's also a fundamental misunderstanding of the character. It's like all they know about him is the name and the logo.
right winger love to co-opt signs and things of other cultures, concepts and PERVERT into as a right wing identity.
I had to do a search. I’m sorry I did.
That fits with his ideologies far better than the thin blue line skull nonsense.
a rainbow one/
dont forget thier lifted giant trucks, that are 1-3feet off the ground. we get it you bought a giant truck to look "masculine" and your wife is a soccer mom and a karen.
100%. I've recently added the "Grunt Style" tshirts to my red flag catalog.
Add "Gulf of America" shirts to the list
What’s wrong with a black US flag? It’s a discrete way to display the flag no?
It’s not really a us flag once you change it.
Well, shit. Didn't know that thanks
Because I'm surely not the only one going 'why would I want change, I paid with plastic': https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_quarter
That's also what US Nazis say.
Start asking for bills then. No point in asking for dimes or nickels.
I'm Canadian, they use a black flag up here too. I don't know or care about proper flag usage, I just know if I see a black Canadian flag on someone's car or clothing that they:
It's against flag code and is considered not a proper flag.
At this point in my life I couldn’t care less about the flag code. I just like to be discrete. But as people have pointed out, there are meanings that people are already using it for of which I fundamentally disagree with so….
Good thing I never got around to it
Seems like a dogwhistle confederate flag to me.
I mean, if it's on clothing, it's not a flag, it's a flag image. Ergo, the flag code doesn't really give a fuck.
Ugh. I hate it when people downvote others for asking legitimate questions. I didn’t know it had a special meaning either, so thanks for taking one for the team. 🤷♂️
Cybertruck drivers.
ETA: Regular Tesla drivers I give the benefit of the doubt to, because they might have bought their car before they realized Musk is a Nazi dickhead man-child. But cybertruck drivers basically knew and didn't care (or still fanboi'd over him).
I saw a cybertruck the other day with a "Bought it before we knew Elon was crazy" bumper sticker on it. I wanna give them the benefit of the doubt, since I myself was pro-Elon once upon a time, but c'mon. I know not everyone stays plugged into the news cycle, but you didn't know until after you bought the cybertruck?
A certain little moustache was generally popular and harmless before Hitler came along, but after the war it forever became the Hitler moustache and shaving one's face in that style nowadays invites the comparison whether or not one means it that way.
I think it was actually fairly common after WWI, since it's about the only facial hair you can really have with a gas mask.
Because if the way I shave, I'm concerned that I'll have a heart attack just before I finish and I'll be buried looking like Hitler.
I had a similar thought years ago, so if anything happens, I'll end up with a reverse Hitler.
TIL Trumps father wore a Hitler mustache until 1950.
Like the fylefot and any number of runes.
wait, but the cybertruck was way after he went full nazi.
In the UK you can see what year most cars were bought based on the license plate. I absolutely give Tesla owners the benefit of the doubt if it was bought before this year - although Musk showed something of his true personality in 2018.
But the other day I saw a dude driving a Tesla Y with a '25 plate and I absolutely judged him for buying a car fronted by an actual nazi.
He showed his personality when he accused a rescue worker of being a pedophile while trying to rescue children trapped in a cave.
They told Musk to fuck off when he was insisting that his "submarine" can save the day.
All the money in the world and no brains.
Yup, that's exactly what I was thinking of from 2018.
Musk: "I'll build a submarine to save them, then everyone will love me even more!"
Cave Rescue Expert: "That's not an especially practical solution given the situational needs of this resuce operation."
Musk: "... er... well... pedo!"
and the hyperloop scam was even more unforgivable, basically robbed california of a high speed rail system, which was blocked by trumps 1st term elain chao. and now its just a half-assed attempt with no progression.
ive seen many teslar drivers bought thier regular tesla cars/suvs after musk went full nazi, like 1-2 years after he bought xitter. they know better, but they are very super-ignorant demographic, apparently alot of them in my area when i look into whos drivers, its asians, im asian.(its like a hybrid of ignorant but still aware of the news of the current events and still purchasing said item/services because it previously had brand recognition thats all they cared about, at the same time low info on the politicla spectrum)
For me, it’s a “thin blue line” sticker. I immediately think the person is racist.
On two occasions I made a louder-than-necessary comment to my kids to stay away from those people (MAGA hats too) while they were within earshot and then listed reasons why. Got some dirty looks, but no one ever approached me. Because they're a bunch of feckless cowards.
Same if they wear a MAGA hat, have a MAGA bumper sticker, or fly a Trump flag.
Or a Punisher sticker.
I see that sticker and I think is this an actual human capable of empathy?
I can let that one slide if it's on their car. They could be just trying to get out of tickets.
What, just because they're making it clear it's not "protect & serve", but instead "us vs. them"?
It's The Coward's Swastika ". Pretty much anyone who flies it is racist and a bootlicker. They're just afraid to fly the Nazi or Confederate flag...
i seen so many of them on suvs in a blue area, even on the uniforms of tradespeople who does maitenance for grocery stories, dont want to see it , we already know/.
If I see a bumper sticker that mentions jesus, I definitely assume that car is driven by the least christ-like person imaginable, and give them space.
Don’t drive near people who are not afraid to die
"Jesus take the wheel"
I've read the gospels, and I'm pretty sure he doesn't have a driving licence.
Jesus died for their sins though so it's ok.
I’m amazed nobody has mentioned a confederate flag (or confederate anything) yet. My first assumption would be that they’re racist and proud of it.
At this point that falls in line with MAGA gear to me, which lots of people have mentioned
Good point. At the risk of making it sound cool, I’ll say that confederate flags are the OG MAGA gear.
You'd be surprised at the number of Democrats in the South with them.
It's particularly jarring when people have them in Canada.
Blue line American Flag sticker/apparel, especially if it's set inside the Punisher logo.
Cops most of all, tells me they’re not only an asshole but an asshole who doesn’t even know what Frank Castle is all about despite rocking the logo
For real. I'm willing to bet most don't even know it's from the Punisher, they just like it because it's a skull, or because they saw the word "Punisher" on the sales tag and thought that was cool.
I call those brodozers, and I hate those drivers. I've damned near gotten hit by them so many times cuz they can't see shit over their hood
I love that my dinky hatchback has more get up and go then they do, they get so fucking offended when you zoom off from a light next to them.
Had a lot of those come through when I worked at Lowe's. Many were indeed working trucks, but they were towing monster loads, not throwing shit in the back.
Yeah I see them parked at my office and always think - someone drove that enormous truck here, then went up the elevator to their office job. What the fuck?
I apologize for the misandry but also we have a saying down here - the bigger the truck, the smaller the cock. If you don't need a work truck for your work, you ought not get a work truck, it's stupid expensive and gas guzzling. I judge you.
We have a few of those here in the Netherlands and it's so ridiculous it's almost sad. These big American trucks really aren't fit for Dutch roads. They're too large for the roads, they don't fit in any parking lot, and they look ridiculous next to any normal car. I could sort of understand that a farmer would have them, but even then it can't be that useful because it must be a hassle any time the truck needs to pass through a city or village.
City trucks
"Parking lot princesses"
Do you judge people driving clean, scuff free vans as well or only truck drivers?
I use my truck for work but other than having a roof rack you probably wouldn't be able to tell it's a work truck from the outside. When it gets dirty, I wash it, and when it gets dents or scratches I fix them. I don't want it to look like a beater.
A 4x4 truck with its big wheels and high ground clearance are features that allow the truck to move off-road. These features have the unfortunate side effect of making them dangerous to other road users, and very uneconomical / environmentally unfriendly. They also take up a lot of space.
Work vans and most cars are capable of driving on a building site or track.
Hood height, engine size, and the physical exterior dimensions of many vans are similar to those of pickup trucks. When used for work, it often just comes down to personal preference. One key difference is towing capacity - most vans are limited to around 750 kg, whereas trucks typically offer much more. Mine can tow up to 3000 kg.
Edit: Also, rear visibility in a van is much worse due to the enclosed cargo area. With a truck, you pretty much have 360-degree visibility.
Yeah that’s bullshit. Vans that can do the max of 3500kg are common as fuck. You probably looked at the wrong spec. 750kg is the max for a trailer without brakes, regardless of type of car. There are usually two numbers on the spec sheet, one for max towing weight for unbraked trailers and one for braked trailers.
True, my bad. Many of the most commonly used vans here can tow 2500kg as long as the trailer has brakes. Anything more than that is rare though. Even many of the other mid-size pickups can't tow 3000kg.
It may depend on local laws. Here the total weight of the combination (car + trailer) with a B+E driving license is 7000Kg, and 3500Kg for a car. That means you can have a van with 3500Kg capacity plus a 3500Kg trailer. So naturally there are vans that are built to match the max spec.
Here's a great video by Fort Nine that explains how and why the shape and size of these trucks are a threat to everyone outside the vehicle.
This applies to vans just as well though. This Ford Transit is little over a meter longer than a Toyota Hilux so these pictures are roughly to scale.
But the front/hood is much shorter in length. Also, people driving that type of van are much more likely to be doing so in a professional capacity and are significantly less likely to be asshole drivers fucking around with their phone while driving. People are bad drivers at baseline quite frequently, but if someone is on the job in a van used for commercial purposes, they're more likely to at least be paying attention and not speeding everywhere.
Edit: I marked up your image to illustrate the point made much more eloquently in the video. Because of the length of the hood, the truck has a much longer distance of road obstructed from view in front of it, and this is with a standard truck that doesn't have one of the very popular lift kits (and assuming that the driver is relatively tall.)
If there’s a 70 cm tall child standing in front of the vehicle, then in either case the child either would or wouldn’t be visible - there’s effectively no difference. It doesn’t really matter whether you can see 2 or 3 meters more of the road surface from one vehicle or the other. In both cases, the hood height is the same, and that’s what determines the safety in the event of a pedestrian collision.
Also, with a van, the rear visibility is greatly reduced compared to a pickup. You could say that can be compensated for with cameras - but that same argument applies to the front visibility as well.
Let's also keep in mind where this discussion started from: a commenter was taking issue with clean, scuff-free pickups as if a work truck couldn't look like that.
Ford makes (or at least made) and E-350 van. It can tow anything your truck can. And seat 11 people. And keep your equipment secured and safe from the elements. And it has a backup camera.
What's your point? That thing is bigger than my pickup.
The point is that both of your points are factually incorrect.
Which points exactly?
I'm not American either - I'm from Finland. I’ve been to the Netherlands, and I can’t quite imagine owning a truck there either.
However, your criticism was about clean, scuff-free trucks broadly. If you had said that you judge people for owning a truck when they have no practical need for one, I wouldn’t have any issue with that. But that’s not what you said.
I don’t own one of those gigantic American trucks, but a mid-size one - think Toyota Hilux, Ford Ranger, Mitsubishi L200, Nissan Navara, or Isuzu D-Max. The external dimensions and hood height on those are comparable to similarly sized work vans. So when someone needs a vehicle capable of hauling cargo, it’s basically a choice between a truck and a van - and there’s not much difference between the two in terms of pedestrian safety.
I’d even argue a truck might be safer, because you generally have better all-around visibility. Vans tend to have very limited rear visibility due to the enclosed cargo area. You could argue that a van is more convenient for hauling certain types of cargo, but that’s a separate discussion about practicality - not safety.
MAGA hat
Cigarette smokers. Mostly because I hate the smell and smokers have their sense of smell damaged so much they don't notice. And sometimes when it sticks to their clothing I just can't be around them at all.
Worked with a guy that was a heavy smoker. When the first winter came around I didn't have a good spot to put my jacket. He had a 2 hook cubicle-wall-hang style coat hook. He moved it between our cubicles so I could use it too. I used it once. My jacket reeked at the end of the day.
I also dislike the smell, but I'm a lot more sympathetic to tobacco use than I used to be because stimulants help to correct low executive function and these people are probably managing their disability the only way they know how.
dude holy shit. that actually explains so much about the smokers in my life. they never got the kind of help they needed because when they needed help people just thought they were lazy/stupid. i bet thats where a lot of their negative self talk stems from too. thanks for the new perspective.
I really love how there's one conservative going through the comments and ascribing a solitary downvote to any mention of conservative values, like trucks, crosses, Cybertrucks (cause it's super specific) and the like.
Hey asshole. How does it feel to be part of a community that hates your fucking guts?
I feel you— but also what does this declaration of hate garner us? Is it anything beyond the base tribalistic fervor: “we are strong fear us”. It makes sense if we were in person— but I fear this is how we create silos.
If there are conservatives here, and we continually assault them directly then perhaps they’ll leave— and while personally I may feel that would make the discourse more favorable, they do not disappear; they leave and find a more homogeneous pasture. We shouldn’t isolate ourselves lest we contribute to make debate a toxic no man’s land.
The paradox of tolerance relies on a lot of assumptions that don't really work in reality. We don't tend to see more open societies have more intolerance, quite the opposite. Part of the problem is that "the intolerant" is not a single group, but many groups that hate each other. And those who are intolerant towards the intolerant are themselves part of the intolerant.
For a less-political example, let's imagine hypothetically that Lemmy is very pro-linux. However, some people who absolutely hate linux show up and start posting anti-linux memes. These people get insulted, downvoted, and eventually banned by others on Lemmy, because they're showing intolerance towards linux.
But then what happens to those anti-linux people? They go off and created their own forums, and talk about how intolerant lemmy is to people who don't use linux. So whenever a linux user shows up on those forums, they're inevitably banned. The result of intolerance of the intolerant is that they remain intolerant, and now the tolerant have become hard to distinguish from them, and there's no way for pro-linux forces to be part of the conversation anti-linux people are having - allowing them to create their own culty filter bubble.
Now imagine an alternative - instead of banning the anti-linux people, pro-linux lemmy users decide to engage with them and correct misconceptions about linux. After all, linux, like many other topics, can get kind of complicated, and linux users need to remember that not everyone has the same background knowledge that they do about the topic. Sure, some linux haters would be persistent, but maybe others would be like "hey, these linux folks are actually kind of cool and helpful, I want to be more like them." That may sound idealistic, but I think that's a lot closer to what we see in reality - intolerance thrives in closed off spaces, and dies in open ones.
You’re missing the point entirely, it’s not a paradox, nor is it so philosophical, it’s a very basic social contract. If you offer tolerance then you receive tolerance, if you offer intolerance then you are owed nothing but intolerance. It’s simply reciprocity.
I generally want good things for all people. However, modern conservatives in my neck of the woods have grown increasingly vile over the course of my lifetime. I like the idea that they might feel isolated because the ideas they champion are backward and negative. And because they seemingly delight in causing harm to others, especially groups who have less power.
Do not try to humanize those who are clearly evil and evil for the sake of evil because they are psychopaths who delight in the suffering of others.
Do not humanize these fucking animals. They are not "conservatives"; they are fucking NAZIS.
Cybertruck owners. That is all.
Crosses.
99% chance it’s performative.
There's some verses in the Bible that tell you to be wary of those that come dressed clean and godly, that pray in public, and make a spectacle of their worship.
I forget exactly the words but it is basically that yeah, they're filthy and ungodly inside.
I am convinced most people aren't religious, or at least agnostic. If they truly were they'd not be living like they are and wouldn't give a shit about anything but their holy book. I call it being alibi-religious.
I used to wear a cross every day, and i believed... until i realized everyone else around me were all hypocrites for one reason or another and no one actually practiced what they preached.
MAGA gear. A Tesla, esp a Cyberdump. A Calvin Pissing sticker. A Jesus shirt; crosses display faith but a shirt or hat says "this is my whole entire identity". Any Suburban, F150, Super Duty, or similarly oversized American SUV or pickup. I know you never haul anything and your groceries are all in the cab.
Woah now, Calvin can piss on anything.. Surely there is room for comedy there.
The cartoonist never agreed to mechanizing so at best it's still stealing from the family of a beloved icon.
He's still alive, technically it would be stealing from him
If you have a religion, shouldn't it be your entire identity?
...no? Why would it be?
Ephesians 2:8-10
1 Peter 2:9-10
I think you need to read some new material that isn't super rapey.
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Ephesians 2:8-10
1 Peter 2:9-10
Please elaborate. This is fascinating.
I mean, I can only assume that what they are referring to is Bhagavad Gita 9:27:
How to recognize a true believer, from Matthew 7:16-20:
You are arguing that everyone who has a particular religion should be identical to each other?
Cybertrucks
I try not to judge people for what they're wearing or carrying, but sometimes it's difficult.
Just today, I saw a guy in all black, sunglasses, black cap, etc, standing waving a Don't Tread on Me flag.
Beside a Pride parade.
In Edinburgh, Scotland.
WTAF?
You see some fantastic outfits in Edinburgh. I think it's the inability of the locals to accept that sometimes it's hot. They don't really get the idea.
The best I ever saw was someone wearing shorts, white trainers, and a black bomber jacket. Very much giving off a vibe "it's bloody hot outside but I only own the one coat, so I'm wearing it"
I once saw a man in Tampa Florida riding a BMX bike wearing a full-ass parka, it was about 65 degrees F(18 C). Opposite reason, similar result.
I mean, it was just this one guy (and even he was wearing black cargo shorts) - most people were fully summered up in their attires!
Too much so, im fact, since it started pouring down at one point! 😁
"Don't tread on me because it's really hot and I'm all sweaty in this getup - you could slip on the grease and hurt yourself."
Maga hat
I'm Brazilian and live in a hot coastal city, so I usually pay attention to people wearing hoodies at weird times of the day. Bonus points if they're wearing a hoodie and shorts (it usually mean that guy is concealing something in it, if the guy was actually cold they wouldn't be wearing shorts).
I also tend to be kinda annoyed at people with christian stickers on their cars.
Oh man, you'd hate the Midwest. Aside from the obvious reasons, there's a baffling culture of white dudes who only wear shorts and hoodies no matter the temp outside.
Canadians do this too, and then like flip flops or slip ons with socks. It's a choice..
someone doesn't appreciate comfort
I'm one of those strange folks, but I'm not wearing a hoodie in the summer lol. For me, it's a compromise between sensory issues and running warm. I hate wearing long pants, and I don't really mind the cold on my legs, so I wear a hoodie to stay warm and shorts to be comfortable. I'm not putting on a show for anyone, but lots of kids in the midwest absolutely do it for attention.
Eh, I wouldn't be concerned about something like that if I lived in the US, here tho having a hoodie and no pants is the telltale sign of some dude up to no good. Hell, the last time some dude tried stealing bikes from our apartment building and we caught him in the act he was actually wearing an orange hoodie and shorts lmao
I work in a bakery. Bakeries are hot as fuck, so I wear shorts. They also open early as fuck, so I’m frequently walking to work sometime between 3:45 and 5:15, when it’s almost always very chilly.
Sweatshirt and shorts is basically my uniform, plus I look annoyed and I’m out in the middle of the night and fully sober. I imagine I’d put off a vibe I’m not intending to for you, lol.
Socks and slides because blisters aren't fun.
Hoodie and shorts is standard winter wear here in Queensland.
Congrats on being the first response in the top twenty or so comments to not reference politics or religion lol
oh wait you did in the second part, oh well you get a pass. this whole thread is "Wedding like conservatives" which, like, yeah i get it, I don't either, but it's really boring to read
Yeah, I find that shit offensive. It should be a private matter. Just being comfortable allowing it to be seen, even if you aren't outgoing about it, tells me we aren't compatible. I'll still treat you with respect, but I know we are very different people.
Now, if you're the kind of asshole who will ring my doorbell about it, I will tell you to "get fucked," and close the door. The sheer arrogance is astounding.
Yeah i hate voting too.
A portable speaker. What public space are you going to pollute with your noise?
Me, connecting to the speaker and opening up pornhub: "it's showtime"
I use to feel that way before I moved to the city. Now it's just part of the ambiance
they work in private spaces too
Too late, ya been judged!
"I've got a bathtub and an imagination; I'm staying indoors this summer. That way I can listen to music I like." - Bill Hicks.
One of those giant stickers meant to make it look like there’s a tied up woman in the back of their pickup.
At best, it’s advertising that they think abusing women is funny.
Eww, thats a thing????
Sadly, yes. You’d think that somewhere along the line, someone would say “hey, maybe this isn’t a good idea”, but nope.
Im struggling to imagine what would drive somebody to put that on their vehicle, thats utterly vile
Really really long fake nails. Less judgement and more confusion I suppose. How do you do normal everyday activities?? I'm baffled
A lifted truck or SUV
Bonus hate for intentionally loud mufflers. These people really don't care how their decisions affect others.
The only exception to this would be for motorcycles. I get that they want to be heard so that some driver doesn't pull out right in front and cut them off, or attempt to change lanes right into them.
It's a potentially life saving tactic.
A tesla
Always remember
the car, the coil or the autistic savant?
American flag. Instant dislike and avoidence.
Same thing for me in Canada.
You cannot seriously buy into all of the values that Canada, as a country, has demonstrated for the last several hundred years.
You have to be the biggest ignoramus in the world to ignore how many social problems Canada (as an entity) is responsible for and fails to address in a meaningful ongoing way.
I mean, it can mean opposition to the US way, which is basically the old British Empire way. The polls bear this out, too - patriotism is correlated with voting left and tolerance in Canada.
We're a British colony dude.
Not for many decades, and things have changed a lot. That's what I'm saying, new Canada is kind of opposite to old Canada (which flew the Union Jack until 1965), and old Canada is dying out.
You could argue that's not the actual state of things, but like I said, the hard data indicates most people at least see it that way.
Blocked
Okay, love you too.
MAGA hats, swastika tattoos
A ute with no mud on it. Either it's brand new, or they have no idea what the point of a ute is, so they bought an overpriced car which is worse for them than an average station wagon
Had to look up what a ute was, for any Americans it's a pickup truck. And I was going to say the exact same thing, judging people for having a spotless pickup.
"utility truck"
Pop Figures
I judge them for shitty spending choices.
Why buy a piece of plastic that sits in the box, and that box sits on a shelf. Theres literally no point to them. You can walk into the mall, look at all the pop figures in each store, and you just had the same experience as you would have if they sat in your house.
Granted, I also can’t stand their art style, but you just described every piece of decorative art. The only requirement of art is for someone to say it is.
Beats headphones.
"Oh yeah those look cool. Did you want something that sounds good though?"
I used to work retail and was helping a college aged guy pick out some new headphones. He was deciding between some Beats and some Bose headphones. I literally asked him "do you want something that sounds good or looks good" and was amazed he actually said "looks good". So I reluctantly sold him the Beats.
Hah, I appreciate the honesty though 😂
Sometimes the headphones are just a public statement of "Don't talk to me please.", and the music is just secondary. In that case, the looks may win.
Heeeey my bose QC headphones lꝏk pretty gꝏd ‼️
I asked for Beats back when i was a teen for my birthday. They were fairly new still and everyone thought it was so cool i had a pair. Eventually they got old and I replaced them with Audiotechnica headphones that were a fraction of the price and holy shit I never knew how poor the sound quality of Beats were before that moment lol.
Crucifix.
Globally? American flag
Being Religious.
Anything clearly expensive = fucking idiot
MAGA gear or by association those stupid shirts, hats, and stickers that say “F your feelings” or “we the people have had enough” etc. most people I work and live around that’s there basic fashion and culture.
smart glasses with built in cameras, and for the same reason teslas
old Tesla's yes. New Teslas are HORRIBLE people
In the UK our car number plates actually tell you when the car was first registered - the third and fourth digits are either the year or the year +50. Normally I object to this, since it was only introduced as the result of pressure from British Leyland to try and sell more cars, but it serves as a handy way of instantly categorising anyone with a, say, '23 or newer cuntmobile.
Pants. Conformist cowards.
I would never wear a dress, but I would refuse to wear pants!
Does a shirt worn upside down as shorts count as pants? A long sleeve?
I seriously thought about this and in my opinion, no. With it upside down, the head opening would be right at your privates making them more like pantalettes (old timey open-crotch underware).
😂
Brand clothing plastered with logos of the brand.
I immediately know you're vacuous and live your life for the image you have for others instead of focusing on yourself.
Same, sort of. For me it varies, some is supposed to be a status symbol and that I find lame.
But some are signals about a person; Bass Pro, fisherman; Backwoods, down to smoke; Burton, snowboarder; Venture, skateboarder; etc. These I see more as a band shirt, like "hey I like that thing/band too, wanna hang out?" These I actually like, they can be informative.
And some are just free shirts from work itself, vendors to your work, events, etc. Maybe they just got off and are still in "uniform" (if you can call a company t-shirt a uniform lmao), maybe their job sells a lot of Kawasaki and they sent shirts to the dealership they work at, this falls more into the informative category and indicate possible hobbies. Same with the event shirts, it's more about a memory of the event, it indicates possible hobbies like running or biking, and hell a free shirt is a free shirt.
Hell even the status symbol shirts, I guess do the same thing in signaling something about a person, but imo it signals that
My wife's Filipino and that's just their style, like they're stuck in the 80s.
Harley Davidson clothing: they're very insecure.
Harley Davidson: „Pay tomorrows prices for yesterday’s technology!“
Wanna know the difference between a Harley and a lawn mower?
The lawn mower has a reason to sound like that.
The lawnmower also serves a useful function.
I mean, a motorcycle is transportation. It can transport maybe you and one passenger (and some light cargo, I know), but it's more practical in a car-centric service economy than walking everywhere. They're also pretty fuel efficient for being so light, and fairly dangerous if people don't notice your tiny ass (which is an advantage of all the noise)
I have literally zero negative or positive opinions about Harleys as motorcycles, I don't own one or know anyone who does, I don't even have a motorcycle license so feel free to correct me if you have a differing opinion -- to me, they just are what some people enjoy. It's the... quality of the people who tend to enjoy them that gives me the ick. Like a bar that didn't quite fully kick the Nazis out. I know they aren't all Nazis, but there are still a disturbing number of Nazis. Or at the very least, American neo-nazis are not frequently depicted riding crotch rockets from overseas.
That's true, a motorcycle is transportation. And, I suppose if you just go for a ride around the city taking pleasure at annoying people with the sound of your loud pipes, it serves a "useful" function for you, in that it brings you pleasure.
Ok, well that's where I differ. Harleys are terrible motorcycles. They use engine technology from the 1960s while bikes from every other manufacturer use tech that's decades more advanced. The power to weight ratios of their bikes are absolutely terrible, and not just because they're cruisers, every other cruiser out there has a better power to weight ratio. Then, even worse is the price. The performance you get per dollar from a Harley is just awful.
With Harley you're paying for the brand name. You get a bike that in every measurable way is worse than a bike by virtually any other manufacturer, but because Harley has done such a good job of establishing a certain image, people will overpay for an underperforming bike as long as it has that brand name attached, and as long as it has the Harley sound and feel. (And that "sound and feel" is basically an engine that is going to shake the fillings out of your teeth because it's using ancient technology that every other manufacturer has ditched.)
The Nazi-adjacency is part of the mystique. They're the "outlaw motorcycle gang" brand, and a lot of the outlaw motorcycle gangs are not just violent, they're also racist, sexist, homophobic, and so-on. It's really the brand for dentists and lawyers who have boring office jobs but want to spend money to feel like they're badasses. They're not going to commit heinous crimes, but they can dress up like the people who do, and feel a bit of a thrill that maybe the people that see them on their bikes are going to be a bit afraid.
I've heard part of the reason some people choose a Harley is because the sound makes them more noticeable in traffic, as a safety thing.
The merch is fucking stupid, but at least the noise does have a safety benefit, plenty of motorcycle riders get killed because other drivers didn't notice them -- good luck not noticing a Harley in close proximity.
Want to look like a bad-ass tough guy [please don't look into this], without having to actually do anything other than buy merch and possibly buy an overpriced motorcycle? Just buy Harley Davison gear, and we promise people won't actually be laughing at you.
I would go so far as to say anything Harley Davidson related, even their motorcycles. They are over priced and under performing compared to literally every thing else.
Yeah, I was on the fence about that. If someone has just a motorcycle and none of the gear, I might give them a pass, based on which motorcycle and how they have it set up.
Pretty much 'anything' clothing. I guess if it's a clothing brand of good quality and there is no choice except to wear it with the logo they stick on it might be an exception, but anything outside of that is basically paying to belong to some club with basically no membership requirements except spending money.
Really good quality clothing doesn't have prominent logos.
Right, if it's good enough it can quit advertising itself.
Really the only reason for a logo like that is to advertise to other people that you are wearing good quality. Upper income people who can afford actual high quality can't effectively 'show off' that way, so they usually content themselves with flying under the radar while still comfortably fitting in wherever they feel like, or showing of in other ways like cars and vacations, but mid or lower income didn't have as much leeway and have to take advantage of what they have available if they want to feel either part of a group or better than others.
III percent sticker on a car or a shirt with that logo. It might as well be a swastika and they are so open about it. I'm so fucking sick of Nazis.
Ford Ranger drivers, and to a lesser extent large dual-cab utes in general. Cashed up bogans to a man. They just have a reckless disregard for other road users and take up far too much space. They're all registered as 'commercial', so they're a tax dodge as well.
curious about the rangers...why do you hate them?
I don't. Just the dickheads driving them. It's beyond me why they choose that particular vehicle, but there's definitely a pattern.
Sounds like local subculture thing. Rangers are the small trucks that polite truck guys own around me.
Probably. It's a fairly different market in Aus than in the US, although we're seeing an increase in Dodge RAMs and the like being imported, usually by the same cashed-up bogans that have apparently decided that Rangers aren't compensatory enough. I realise even those are fairly 'small' by US standards. Y'all are insane with your trucks as daily drivers.
I don't know what they look like over there, but in the US, Dodge Rams are often oversized trucks. The mirrors stick out like they're trying to high five every vehicle (though useful if you're towing.) They're often lifted, dually (double back tires) with oversized exhaust. Drivers sometimes like to "roll coal" which means to spew thick black diesel exhaust everywhere. It's as obnoxious as it sounds. Is that what you're seeing there?
Pretty much that, except 'rolling coal' would get them a massive fine over here. Edit: not a fine initially, but they'll tell you to fix it, but it is finable ($495 and 2 demerit points)
You probably could get fined for it over here, but that's going to vary by each county within each state. I don't live in California, but they're known for much stricter emissions regulations for instance. Where I live, they don't even test or regulate emissions.
I used to drive an old red Ford Ranger 5-speed for a job and I loved it. Small truck compared to modern though. Shame it's got that rep in Oz.
Cybersecurity people with iphones. Not strictly judging them but it is a grim reminder that even the "professionals" barely understand the technological privacy dystopia we live in.
Perhaps they do, just don't have enough energy to care about it in private life anymore and just go for convenience like the majority.
Perhaps
I work in IT and I harshly judge anyone else in IT who willingly chooses an iPhone.
When I started with my current company they gave me my choice of iPhone as a company phone (basically last year's model at no cost, or I could pay a bit and get the latest model).... when I asked if Android was an option I was told "oh, no... Android is open source, so it isn't secure". If I didn't need the paycheck I would have quit right then. I just stared at my boss and didn't know what to say. I mean, I knew what I wanted to say, but I also didn't want to tell my new boss that he's a dumbass.
So now I carry 2 phones and last year I broke my Android phone and had to use the iPhone as my daily driver for a couple of months. I figured I'd come to appreciate the iPhone but no, there was almost no redeeming qualities.
This is a german thing, but "Camp David" shirts are the first thing that come to mind. There is a good possibility the person wearing it is the most dense and arrogant person you'll ever meet.
Könnt ihr doch sicher bestätigen Germanbros, oder?
Anyone who pays the ridiculous up charge so they can provide free advertising for any big brand. If you paid $50 bucks for a regular ass shirt with nothing but a Nike logo on it then you’re a fucking rube.
Rolex. Evincing narcissism or psychopathy.
Not all of us ars like that, you know.
Awfully judgemental of you to think poorly of us folk who just happen to like precision, appreciate good engineering or maybe have a small penis and require lavish symbols of wealth and status to prove we'e a more valuable human being than you in symbolic caps lock.
My rolex justifies my existence and represents how worthy of everything i am and anyone who disagrees is a jealous underling rolexless peasant demon.
We're just better people because we purchased an overpriced obsolete piece of 19th century technology and put it on our wrists.
This time measuring device i display on myself will show my toxic paternal figures and all those peera that disapproved of me that i am not a small child that's starved for validation, but a big man who is extremely confident.
Also, since i have a rolex, I'm more entitled to all ypur money than you are. Give me your money. You'll just squander it.
Note to self: buy a 3 dollar casio digital watch and write 'rolex' on it with a sharpie. Next time someone with a real one is spotted, compliment their taste, try to force things in common and call them my hero. Request autograph when they leave.
If someone carries a gun and they have a normal low-threat job and live in a normal low-threat suburb: wow, that person lives in a fantasy world, and is just looking for an excuse to hurt someone. What an absolute loser.
Hm. Cop uniforms. I
accurately appraisejudge them to likely be problematic in all kinds of ways that might threaten my safety and certainly that of othersIf someone has a good quality bicycle that they actually use: you got your shit together!
It's not judgement so much as a red flag, but those sunglasses that are like a solid cylinder wrapping around your head. They're popular with manosphere dudebros, which is unfortunate because I actually kind of like them.
Lifted pickups that I know cost more than a modest house. It's the same as buying a sports car, except you're also posing as a humble working man simultaneously.
Big lifted truck with spacers, no tow hitch, and a perfect unlined bed. Why the fuck do you have a big shiny truck and flake on your promise to help your friend move because you don't want to scratch your precious unlined bed. I've had more luck asking a rando with a squarebody Chevy and made an even better better friend.
Intentionally sagging pants.
Arc'teryx (hardshell) jackets.
If you're walking around downtown you don't need it. If you actually needed it you wouldn't be wearing your expensive gear downtown.
If they have a good opinion of me I know they're a poor judge of character.
Any kind of of bumper sticker collection on the trunk(boot) lid.
One sticker with a snarky or clever saying is fine, but I do instantly judge anyone with a collage as a tacky person with poor taste and no sense of boundaries.
It matters not if I tend to agree with the advertised messages, it’s just a huge red flag to me.
I also think a collage of bumper stickers looks tacky. I wouldn't condemn it in such strong terms as you used, however.
what do you think about purses/bags with them?
I also have 2 frog bumper stickers and no other ones
Bags are very different to me than cars for some reason. They are more personal, perhaps, as one can usually see the person and the busy bag together.
Thinking about it, perhaps I see bumper stickers as impersonal and maybe even agressive (probably passive-aggressive even). A cute frog or two is vastly different to me than a collage of political sayings and it hardly matters if I happen to agree with the particular statements.
Maybe it’s a matter of taste or perhaps I feel disdain because it looks like political activity but is actually utterly worthless at changing minds?
Someone normal looking wearing clothing that references a nerdy hobby/interest: this person is self-confident enough to not be afraid to admit to having a nerdy side.
If someone seems extremely socially awkward and is wearing that kind of clothing it's different. But if it's someone who looks like a soccer mom but she's wearing a Critical Role tee shirt, she's cool. Or if it's a guy who looks like a construction worker with an Anime character: nice one, dude.
There's a LOT of things. Those are mostly shallow and me being a bad person though. I really judge people when they have super Christian clothing with tiny pieces of random supposedly important Bible verses. Those "don't tread on me" stickers. Really tacky shit in general. I wear a really obnoxious Goku/Vegeta hoodie sometimes, to make sure that the shallowest people will avoid me. I'm a hypocrite lol
The brand “hood rich”
Every scum bag I’ve known drapes themselves in hood rich.
A fedora with safari flaps in the back.
Basically the only thing that really bothers me is a lack of epistemological humility, people pretending their views are objectively true.
Hats. Fucking hat people think they are better than me just because they cover their head?!
Wanted to cover your head anyway, just for a laugh? We already have a tool for that: it's called HAIR.
THEY HAVE PLAYED US FOR ABSOLUTE FOOLS
I don’t think I’m better than you for wearing a hat, I’m bald and a sunburn on your scalp is a mother fucker, I think I’m better than you for other reasons entirely.
A cross necklace
One who wants others to think they believe
A vest over a button up
One who aspires and has not yet achieved
An oversized suit and padded heel shoes
One who is orange
I had a one-night-stand on a cruise once that was fun but almost ruined when he took off his shirt and there was a cross necklace on his chest. Missionary was basically my vampire ass trying not to get burned by the cross.
College students with sports cars: I assume they’ll be in debt forever.
Or they're spoiled brats.
Cigarettes
A classic Casio wristwatch.
Gentlemen, terrorist, or the best engineer you’ve ever met.
Well, I'm not the first, not third, but don't really intend to become second
Not with that attitude! Come on, believe in yourself, you can do it!
Negatively: Almost any clothing with more than a couple words of text.
Clothing with a prominent brand.
Clothing with right-wing political connotations.
Dyed blonde hair or hair dyed brown/black that should, obviously, be gray.
Tramp stamps. Japanese writing tattoos on non-Japanese. Face tattoos. Neck tattoos. Tattoos of pop culture themes.
Expensive cars. Dodge pickup-trucks. Harley Davidson motorcycles. Dodge Chargers. Teslas.
Police officers.
Positively: Normal clothing. Well-dressed but obviously not expensive clothing. ‘Funky’ style clothing. Clothing that would just look stupid on me.
Wildly dyed hair. Subtlety dyed hair that isn’t covering something up.
Tattoos that are, at least, fairly unique.
Glasses. (I don’t know, I’m prejudiced for people with glasses.)
Old women.
I could probably come up with a lot more. We’re all prejudiced in some way. It’s the things that we’re prejudiced about and how attached we are to those prejudices that define us.
Crocs
I love my crocs, people who hate on me for them can fuck off hahaha
One of my closest friends is a nurse (now general practice but did years in hospital A&E) and she wore crocs all the time. Changed my response to them completely.
I fucking hated crocs when they came out.
And then I went on a canoe vacation in Sweden and now I swear by them 😂
They're so stupid looking, but so unfortunately comfortable. I wear a pair indoors all the time, but not to leave the house.
Forgiven
I don't understand how they are not sweaty as fuck? They are made of plastic, yes?
It doesn't matter what your footwear is made of. If you don't wear socks, it will get nasty.
Yes, I wear socks unless I'm going in the ocean or something.
Why would that make them sweaty lol
"Oh awesome, nice Tool shirt. What's your favorite track?"
Oh, I've never listened to them
seeeeeeeeeeeethe
"cause" stickers
Shut the fuck up. Live your life in an ethical way, we do not need to see a sticker asserting what every decent person already knows is right
I find people who broadcast their ethical positions rarely live by them. Being ethical is a series of decisions on how you act, not what you tell people.
Sometimes the best thing you can do for a cause is let other people know it exists.
Same for billboards near the road. Those never work.
This is such a small way of looking at things.
The best thing you can do is live according to your ethics and values. By setting an example.
Putting a sticker on says hey... you behave this way.
And we should only ever do what's best, even if there is a way to help that's slightly less than the best.
I saw a ribbon sticker that said "support ribbon stickers" on a car here.
Back the Blue
White shoes or white pants.
What about white undies?
Giggity.
Grunt style shirt
Always on a short or fat dude
I dunno why but short and fat (and consequentially insecure ) men love those shirts
Harry Potter merch
Rolex. Up to you to interpret what this means.
Snapchat.
" ((Candidate who Lost)) ((Previous Election Year))" bumper stickers after it has been a few years.
It feels needlessly divisive.
Although I saw a "Bob Dole '96" in the wild recently, and I kind of grudgingly admire that level of procrastination.
Police uniform.
toeshoes. oof.
T-shirts with wolves.
Crocs
An onlyfans => ur a hoe
An onlyfans subscription => ur a sad idiot
Supreme shirt/simmillar => congratulations u could have stapled $50 cash to ur shirt
a baby on board sticker => congratulations u wanna tell everyone u fucked at least once
They want emergency responders to go back and look for a small body in the event of a crash.
Linux
Because fuck linux
I'm 50 and still skate, gonna were what ever the hell I like. Please feel free to judge away.
Feel free to do whatever you want man, im not gonna stop you. They asked and i answered just for fun, i just think this way but you're never gonna see me bother anyone neither in real life or online for their choices. It's just that this comes to my mind when i see it. Have a nice day
https://ajamaicaexperience.com/history-of-dreadlocks/
https://hairspeaks.net/6427/why-did-dreadlocks-start/
often from not having time to properly dry to scalp, or not realizing the hair wasn't dry*
*I added this