YouTube rolls out more unskippable ads that make viewers wait even longer to watch videos - Dexerto
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Same, also revanced on Android
Ssshhh...
Or newpipe... Or pipepipe.
Or Tubular
Or Freetube on pc, a FOSS desktop client
I was using libre tube for a while and that broke.
What's the best link for revanced?
You have to patch it yourself, sorry.
Youtube APK: https://www.apkmirror.com/wp-content/themes/APKMirror/download.php?id=8859989&key=ed463ff40f33fca91601472e78686e6bd92bf430&forcebaseapk=true (Download this)
ReVanced Manager: https://github.com/ReVanced/revanced-manager/releases/download/v1.24.0/revanced-manager-1.24.0.apk (Patch the Youtube APK with this)
Best link is to look up the Reddit page to find their links in the info bar. We shouldn't be posting links here, or we might very well lose the privilege once Google catches on...
Love libretube but it just wouldn't play videos consistently. Ended up moving to grayjay
I find funny, that after watching YouTube for not over an hour, my ublock icon already says >1k
Yeah, close to probably 10 years for me.
I've been ad-free youtubing since it came out in '06 or whenever that was. It's a shame that they disabled uBlock on Chrome, I used to really enjoy my chromebook before it became spam cancer
there is mv3 version of ubo here:
https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBOL-home
dunno how well it works on yt, though. i use dlp on a pc for the time or two a month i 'need to' look at a yt vid.
adguard's free browser extension is also mv3 compliant (for chrome). i think the old adblockplus (disable 'acceptable ads' and ignore offer to 'upgrade' to a paid version) is, too.
"Not as well as uBlock Origin" is the answer to that.
I got warnings to disable my ad blocker on my Chromebook recently, but did not get the same on my Linux desktop using Firefox.
I really ought to get away from the default software on the Chromebook (Firefox via Crouton or Android or something), but it didn't work well last time I tried.
Is there support for blocking individual elements of a page in v3 version of uBlock Origin? (I won't be surprised if it lacked it). I usually block various other elements of page like useless headers/footers/comment sections on some sites I routinely visit on Firefox.
Yeah, I used ABP for a while and got occasional ads, didn't discover uBO til later.
I have seen 2 ads on Youtube in several years because Youtube revanced ad blocking didnt work twice
Browsing YouTube like the good old dayz
Hmmm maybe I'll just learn to read finally.
The neurolinks will patch that loophole soon.
"Please keep focused for this brief ad from our sponsor, your information handling session will resume shortly"
I've been meaning to check out this "nature" thing, or whatever it's called. It's basically like, just lakes and woods and the sky and all kinda weird shit like that. Supposed to be pretty cool I guess, idk
I heard the graphics are really good. And the framerates extremely high. But there are mosquitoes so it's probably not worth it.
You mean like desktop backgrounds IRL? 🤯
Sorry, pardon?
Try it!
💪🤓
Dunno, why learn to read, everything is already on the internet
I'm not worried. The minute the ad blockers stop working I'll finally be able to do something else with my time.
Just like lemmy, yet here we are. Sometimes we need to waste some time.
It’s all about doing it in moderation and choosing carefully what we waste our time on. I would rather “waste” time reading a stupid book than go on Instagram or TikTok, where my mind gets trapped in a circle of emotions and algorithms.
☝️ And it works, I can confirm.
Ublock Origin on Firefox With Sponsorblock is the answer.
Edit: Mispelling, fuck autocorrection
And ReVanced on Android, SmartTubeNext on Android TV.
I think it's back to just SmartTube. SmartTubeNext was a temporary thing to get SmartTube back on track iirc.
I am fairly certain SmartTubeNext was a rebrand by the same dev.
I like Tubular and/or Seal(a yt-dlp wrapper) on Android and don't use a TV, but yeah, anything but the actual YouTube app is probably better.
How do you unlock origin? I have been blocking it thinking it caused the ads
It's a typo, they mean the ad blocking software uBlock Origin.
I guess I need someone to explain it to me, because they even fixed their typo.
The RandomVideos is joking, not z3rOR0ne
I am already blocking origin, i was asking how i unlock it
Ask ChatGPT and get back to us with the answer.
ChatGPT will give me wrong information as always
Youtube has ads?
Only for the paying customers, apparently. Crime pays, yarrr!
Blocking ads isn't a crime .
Yet
uBlock Origin intensifies
They’re blocking it actively now. For me, it requires a tampermonkey script to bypass the blocker check in Firefox.
There's some A/B testing going on, for sure. My ublock origin on Firefox has never had issues
Enjoy it!
I have no issues on Firefox or Brave. I never see ads.
Whenever that happens, the heroes in the ublock team does push a new fix in a few hours.
Here is every single way I can think of to block YouTube ads:
uBlock Origin + Firefox
NewPipe on Android
Libretube on Android
uYou+ on iOS
FreeTube on *NIX and Windows
yt-dlp + mpv
YouTube Revanced
Invidious self hosting
Piped self hosting
And finally, last and definitely least
YouTube Premium
Donate to the creators who make content. Google does not deserve a penny of your hard earned money.
I read that Google is rolling out some ads on premium so that might need to get removed from your list.
I believe you're thinking of premium lite, or whatever they call it.
Correct. If they ever roll out ads on premium, I’m not sure what we’ll do. Maybe figure out a new platform or a new way to watch.
Amazon Premium started this trend. They're shameless.
SmartTube for Android TV devices
Absolutely. And they update pretty quickly when YouTube breaks something.
There's also Pipeline for *nix (and possibly Windows, but I didn't bother to check.)
You should add Brave on iOS to the list. Never seen any ad with Brave.
Then stop using youtube. It sucks ever since googol bought it. Haven't used it since.
That is right thinking. I admire that.
I second Freetube. Not a perfect app (think it's Chromium based), but it gets the job done and they're pretty good about updating it pretty quickly whenever YT successfully breaks it.
NewPipe is my friend
The enemy of my adblocker blocker is my enemy cuz my adblocker is my friend
I'm using a 3,5 months old version of PipePipe than magically somehow still works 😀
The latest version works fine.
yup newpipe all the way adblocker by pihole no ads on my network 🤩
FreeTube on desktop, NewPipe on droid!
Smarttube on Android TV OS
Firefox and ublock on desktop works just as well.
I would disagree, you’re still directly communicating with YouTube servers without a proxy in-between. Invidious or Piped are the proxies you need, they let you blend in with the other users of their services making data-collection on YouTube’s part difficult.
We need to make feeding the algorithm as difficult as possible.
Grayjay on desktop
Grayjay on Android
That explains the adblocker crackdown and enshittification of paid. Funnily enough, this pattern got me to block ads.
You weren't blocking ads before?
Ive been blocking youtube ads for like a year now. But when it was like one or two minutes every 10-20 I didn't mind watching on an app that didn't have ad block. It got worse and I got fed up.
Not the previous commenter but on mobile, a good few years ago I didnt block ads i didnt mind something skippable or a short interruption but they were just that very short and not in the way. I started going out of my way to block ads when they abused it
Anyone not blocking ads on YouTube needs to start blocking ads and sponsored content on YouTube.
https://www.mrfdev.com/enhancer-for-youtube
https://sponsor.ajay.app/
I used enhancer but it seems the dev has stopped updating it for Firefox and only updating it for chrome.
Moved to Tweaks for YouTube and am quite happy with it so far; seems to also have more options.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tweaks-for-youtube/
I have yet to see my first ad on any youtube video.
🤷 https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp/releases
I'm around long enough to have seen them, before blockers were a thing.
Ive been using adblockers, piped and other tools for so long that i dont even remember what the last time was when i saw a youtube ad.
Same... And if they ever successfully make it impossible to avoid, I'll just stop watching YouTube
Hard to do if you watch directly from your TV using some dongle and don't know or can't modify your router to block ads.
SmartTube is on AndroidTV
Kodi can be installed through the play store, you can transfer files over smb and ftp and move the apk using it.
You're welcome.
Excuses:
Don't, buy a $25 Android TV box from walmart.
Don't, buy a $25 Android TV box from walmart.
These terms can be searched for and learned about.
You're ahead of the game, find a plugin pack and enjoy
WHY DONT WE HAVE A MAINSTREAM ALTERNATIVE YET
By operating youtube at a loss for many years Google acted anticompetitively to kill competition or stop competition arising. Now that they've achieved that they can do what they like. Don't feel bad using ad blockers against this anti-capitalist company.
Final stage of enshittification, now they are allowing more right wing propaganda than normal on the channel
And suppression of comments, for all sorts of reasons. Words and phrases will constantly flag AI autoremoval.
I am in no way defending YouTube here, but how did it act anticompetitively?
FYI, this is currently happening with Uber.
I never felt bad abt that for a second. Like the thought never crossed my kind XD FUCK YOUTUBE!
Hosting and storage costs, few can afford to be an alternative to an absolutely gigantic video storage platform that costs obscene money to maintain.
It was fun to thumb my nose at Google while it lasted I guess, maybe if they were less amoral then I'd be less belligerent toward them.
@ChaoticEntropy @atlien51
you found your way to lemmy but you don't know about https://peertube.tv/ ;)
Sure, a service that manages an infinitely smaller amount of content and complexity. It is a situational tool, hardly a YouTube killer... the banner presented on the homepage professes that it's expensive to run and please donate.
@ChaoticEntropy
https://fediverse.party/en/peertube/ << before you complain understand the technology behind. Everyone can basically provide a instance and it's decentral. As more people participate / as more instances are provide as better for all and as cheaper. If you really want to step away from services like youtube and want to have it sustainable (aka not depending on business) than it's your best choice. If you just want someone else to have the saying and replace one company with another good luck.
I'm complaining, I'm stating.
OK, so a bittorrent tracker site with a video player built in with comments underneath and you can get perks from content creators for seeding. Then of course some kind of voting system and etc. Then a creator can just get a seed box to start hosting their own videos.
People get proccupied with emulating YT, which is indeed cost prohibitive. But that response assumes one is emulating all of it. What about only pursuing sections of it to cater to particular audiences? Serving 100% of YT's video might be too much even for Amazon (for example) but what about 1%?
Why couldn't Amazon host Booktube? And the manga/anime enthusiasts and other varietes of weebs to go along with them? They already own ebook retail. A VOD service to chip off some of YT's viewership would be a more productive investment than The Rings of Power...
A YT competitor needs a bit of scale, sure, but not as much as YT itself. A fraction will do.
I believe the main cost is in hosting all the videos. A lot of them are probably junk that were never meant to see the light of day. I certainly use it as an extra backup for many of my videos with no context and random UUID titles.
For everything else, a potential solution is to have everyone come in with their own videos hosted elsewhere and the platform just integrated with a bunch of APIs for fetching and serving those videos. For small time creators, the cost should be fairly low to none since a lot of platforms allow you to store a small number of files for free.
We do, but you probably don't like it (TikTok).
You’re right :)
I meant idk something like Oddysse (but a website with actual moderation)
Do you know of PeerTube? It's not mainstream at all either, but it seems more known to me.
It's also in the fediverse, and isn't accused of the same moderation issues (though idk if PeerTube is really better than Odyssee at moderation, I suppose it's just a difference in policy).
Edit: I read a bit about it, and I can see I was wrong about Odyssee being less known than PeerTube. It's strange, I never heard of it, but anyway. Odyssee also includes some crypto bullshit, so yeah...
It's a very difficult business model to make profitable without an already massive userbase. In fact, I think YT was actually losing money for Google for a while after they bought it. I could be misremembering though.
Yes but not everything needs to make a profit, just not make a loss. Also it could be community supported with donations and stuff:)
YouTube was operating at a loss under Google for years. The only reason it is able to exist is because a massive entity like Google was able to absorb that without folding, and keep providing a free service until it becomes profitable (is it even yet? I'm not sure).
I mean fuck Google, and yes a big enough non-profit (or even government) could do it (probably better), but unfortunately that's not the world we live in right now.
This sounds like a problem I'm too third party client to understand
It will continue until it overshoots TV and they're all 3x more ad than vid.
I watch youtube on a smart TV where I don't have a way to skip ads. I know there are ways to do it, I just never implemented.
The experience with Youtube is getting so much worse. It used to be one ad at the start of the video. Then it was two. And now ads in the middle of the video. They are also so long! It completely breaks the narrative of the video and is so distracting.
All of this just makes me want to watch less Youtube, which is likely not a bad thing.
I hope I can be the motivation you need with these super simple steps (will take a few minutes).
https://smarttubenext.com/android-tv-box/
Have they made anything like this for Roku yet?
I havent tried it yet but i think you cab rub a pihole and use that to fikter at the source
Nah, YouTube serves ads on the same domain as the videos, so DNS filtering is out.
I think playlet is what I used on roku. Not as nice as smarttube as you can't log in I don't think, but you can still subscribe and stuff, just doesn't transfer between devices. Personally didn't really use it, just set up for my wife.
if you TV is running android, you can use SmartTube
When the ad is playing, are you able to press up a couple of times and click on the little (i)? It might then go to a "why am I seeing this ad" page which you can then click ok on then click on don't watch this ad again and it will skip the ad. Doesn't work if you're casting a video from a phone, and it doesn't work on some channels.
That stipped working. Now the option it gives you is to block the ad going forward after it finishes
Oh that's sad, it worked the last time I tried it but that was a few months ago.
I did not know this, and I love it! Thanks for sharing!!!
on the rare case that i watch YouTube on tv, if it's at the beginning, i just quit the video and restart over and over again until i see a 5 sec skip. sometimes it takes longer than the ads would've taken but I'd rather do that than take it on the chin to be honest. I'm also hoping others do it too so maybe they get some telemetry data.
and if it's in the middle of the video i just quit. if it's important enough i can just watch it on my phone or PC without ads.
Even with a premium account I’m stopping using YouTube little by little ever since they made their forced translation of titles and these AI voices that make the experience for bilingual people just horrible.
This is the most baffling feature ever. Why would anyone want to have titles translated? The video itself is not going to be translated! I guess it's because of these auto subtitles that are simply not that reliable nor do they make for a good viwing experience if you really don't know the language.
Even Youtube's algorithm already doesn't suggest videos from languages in which you don't search in! My youtube shows me stuff only in the languages I usually google with.
And the ads with this ai voice... Damn they are weird.
You could see if an adblock dns works, you dont even have to set up pihole for that (its just local hosted adblock/whattheheckyouwant dns).
If it makes problems you can set it to default or cloudflare or something
Setting another dns is in most cases just going to the settings and pasting a link
Edit: if you set the dns in your router it works at all devices at home
DNS blocking doesn't work on YouTube ads because they're served by the same domain of videos.
I'm in the same boat here, I watch on my TV through a Roku and I don't think there are any options for ad blocking.
Again YouTube ads? What the hell are you people talking about?
Mfers act like forgot about revanced.
Occasionally I try the YouTube watch together thing on discord with my SO, and it really shows just how completely unusable YouTube is without an ad blocker.
The only ads I see are on a local sports podcast. The advertisers are all local businesses. From restaurants to local credit unions. And those I'm fine with.
When ads get in the way I simply don't watch the videos. It's not like anybody ever really needs to watch any particular video.
Educational content is hard to come by outside of YouTube, so it would suck to have to avoid watching those videos because of ads.
But I'll do what I have to do in order to avoid ads for as long as possible. And I'll archive important content in the meantime.
I pay for nebula, they have a lot of educational content and the price is low enough that I don't mind it
Sounds good, but if I search "microwave repair" or "improve vo2max" , it comes up with zero results.
That's the sort of stuff we'd lose if creators don't move away from YouTube. 😟
Thats true, I once had to repair my washing machine and I could only find 1 video about the same model and same repair. It was a large Russian man that I could not understand (this was before auto generated subtitles).
Anyways, I just looked at the video and copied everything he did and I fixed my machine.
I'm still self hosting Invidious... Watching YouTube videos without ever visiting YouTube...
You can even access your instance with playlet on roku https://github.com/iBicha/playlet
Link? Or just Google it?
https://docs.invidious.io/installation/
The docker section there is what I used.
true
what other sites are there to use?
Days ago I discovered vacuumtube for steam deck. It's basically youtube with tv interface but with all the adblocks. It works wonders in game mode and even has controller support.
Finally subscribed to Nebula a few days ago. Between a third and half the creators I follow are there. I'm planning to move away from YouTube entirely, even if I can pay for premium or block ads I want to make the statement I don't support their service anymore.
I tried Nebula and it's nice, bit it's too US-centric (+ something from the UK)
I'm trying out nebula because I saw your suggestion and honestly a year for $60 isn't terrible at all. But I'm having trouble finding creators (not because the app isn't good but because it seems a lot of the channels I follow on YouTube aren't on Nebula. I have two devices open actively going down the list of channels I follow on YouTube trying to find channels I want to follow on Nebula and so far I am striking out pretty bad. I hope I can get half the creators I follow on Nebula because so far it's pretty decent from what I have seen. App is easy to navigate and pretty polished etc.
Is there a way to view who's on the service (creator wise) before paying for it? Because if not that's the major flaw with it.
I am not sure if it is possible, to be honest. I decided to move as I saw a lot of the YouTubers I follow do sponsored segments on nebula, so I knew I was going to find at least them in there. If I do find any kind of page or tool to find out I'll share it here
Isn't Nebula a paid service?
Yes, but from my understanding Nebula is creator owned.
Yes, I forgot to clarify that. I decided to pay for a nebula subscription, which is creator owned, and to try and stop using YouTube as much as I can.
I even got a nice discount on it from the sponsor segment of one of the creators I follow
I know this isn't an option everyone can take, but for the ones who can, I think it sends a clearer message to YouTube and Google than any ad blocker, if you don't respect me as a viewer I'll stop using your service altogether. The ad blocker is still a great option though!
yea
I will continue to download all my videos to avoid ads. When they break the tools in such a way that this is no longer possible, I will stop watching videos from YouTube and seek entertainment elsewhere.
yt-dlp is the goat
Jokes on you, YouTube, my Chinese phone rolls their ads over yours!
I’m actually looking to start a YouTube channel, but I don’t know if I should even bother since YouTube seems to be going out of its way to try to kill itself
Do other services! Like Peertube and then mirror videos on youtube and odyssey so you still get traction
Just cross post to a couple different hosters.
I guess there's no reason not to post to other sites as well?
Since you're already in the Fediverse, I'd suggest looking into PeerTube for your videos rather than going to YouTube as your primary platform.
I currently have a channel, but am going to switch to PeerTube when I have my backlog built up again so I can post in a steady schedule. (Workin' on it...) The only things I'm going to put on YouTube are videos going, 'Hey! I have the video up here! Follow the link!' so that people can actually find it and Words of the Week shorts 'cuz I don't want to feed their AI bullshit that I can't get away from with proper stuff and it's just stick figures and rudimentary drawings with words from the dictionary. Unfortunately, it's not as user friendly to search for stuff on PeerTube as it is on YouTube. I'm hoping that gets fixed sooner rather than later. It'll make things better. sigh
Upload it to multiple platforms. If one dies you have already a plan B.
Yall I got yt premium as a perk from my carrier and tried it out, it’s fucking AWFUL. Mostly the yt app. I get better speeds, quality and less interruptions just using brave
when they do this shit I wonder who their target audience is.
Future uBlock/NewPipe users
Thanks for educating people about the usefulness of adblockers, YouTube ❤️
Their wallets.
Stop using it. I did and now I only use unofficial ways of watching the videos I want. And I download the ones I wanna watch again.
You can skip or avoid ads on YouTube, so meh. What really grinds my gears though, is the stupid, fucking algorhythm, which routinely offers me videos I just recently watched, vids in languages that I can't speak, "current" affairs stories that are years old, and channels/vids that I have specifically blocked. I curse YouTube daily, but will bless anyone who has a viable alternative....
Adblocks allow you to not have to skip the ads physically, the algorithm is something else though. Now it starting to push right wing propaganda if your not logged in, and recently they said they are allowing even more now
You could put the subtitles for videos in languages you don't speak. What was much more annoying to me was the automatic audio translation (it's still available, but it seems YouTube doesn't select it automatically when you watch a video in another language).
If they circumvent uBlock, then PeerTube, here I come
Laughs in Ad Blocker. Still going strong.
Just means I will find something else to watch. I’d pay for ad-free YouTube if it didn’t cost as much as HBO.
Does that mean if viewing numbers plummet they won't roll it out? wink wink, nudge nudge!
Very likely - but that’s not going to happen. Some people will watch less, some will complain but keep watching the same amount, and the majority will just take it as a fact of life and not change their behaviour.
https://yewtu.be/
Oh please no, it's the reason why I switched from Chrome to Firefox when watching YouTube
I seem to have the right stuff on my laptop, but not on my phone. When I play escape games on the phone I occasionally need a walkthrough video, so I'm switching between 3 apps: the game, my notes (a paint app) and the video. Walkthrough videos typically have an ad at the beginning and maybe one in the middle, and I don't mind watching 15-30 seconds of ads for the YouTuber's work.
This used to be pretty seamless, but a couple weeks ago something changed. When switching back to YouTube, it would not return me to the video but to the home screen. I have to go to "You" to get the video I was just watching, and when I click it it plays the ads again, then jumps to where I left off. So now every time I switch away I have to view an ads again when I switch back, which really sucks balls. I don't think the phone is running out of memory since other apps I have open switch right back to where they left off. So I'd love to get something that will skip all that.
Revanced still working great for me.
Will check it out thanks!
Newpipe seems to be working fine.
I think this one's a winner for me, thanks!
They do get they're not dealing with a generation used to ad breaks any more, right?
That's why they have to spend so much time trying to force you to watch all the get rich quick schemes, gambling, and expiring legal claims videos. What quality ad pushers they work with.
I should just read a book at this point
I forgot about that site. I knew it just as the host for TV series streams back in the day
I was using uYouPlus+ sideloaded on my phone until it broke recently, now I’ve found using Brave browser for just YouTube is the solution
GrayJay, Vanced, or
PipewireNewPipe is the wayDid you mean NewPipe? Pipewire is the Linux audio/video framework.
Damn, fixed, I had a brainfart and was installing Arch while browsing Lemmy lol
I meant iPhone :(
I mean, yeah. What did you expect ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
My dude I know, some people need to use iPhones tho. I have a solution anyway and sharing it here for others cos I heard it’s a popular phone….
Haha I'm kidding, it's good that you share your solution here.
GrayJay
NewPipe or Piped
Revanced
And thus we say fare thee well - U-Toob
I use SmartTube on my Nvidia Shield TV box and don't ever deal with any ads. It's appalling whenever I have to use vanilla YouTube for anything.
How about blocking this nonsense on Xbox? Need a pi hole yes?
I don't think a DNS hole is going to save you from ads served internally by YouTube.
It might, if it just blocks YouTube
Can't view ads if you can't view videos. Checkmate.
I just use a frontend to remove ads + Extra Privacy too
Then they won't get that sweet ad money. They're part of the racket.
For free?!
revolt.
youtube sucks ever since googol bought it.
Open it via Duckduckgo, the player will show it without any ads or tracking. 👍
I have zero sympathy for people who don't use an ad blocker
Red's worth paying for, especially if you dont mind yt music.
It's not. Alphabet is already making billions off our data. Just use uBlock or ReVanced or whatever and don't shovel more money into their greedy pockets.
What would happen if all users start using adblockers, or the value of ads starts to fall?
I do not support the current, ad-driven, model of the internet. However, since the costs of subscriptions are increasing, while salaries are going downhill, it is apparent that ads is (seemingly) the only viable choice for now.
In the economy we currently live in, all of world's wealth is slowly moving to ad networks.
Even donation driven models are currently straggling. Just look at the fediverse. The people donating to their instances are not enough to sustain them.
Capitalism has absolutely destroyed everything. The greed of stakeholders has milked most people. At some point people will stop buying the useless things or services promoted via advertisements, just because they will not be able to afford them. Then, no subscriptions, no point of advertising, no donators, no people hosting fediverse instances, just world hunger.
Well because an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind, i dont base my actions on how poorly someone else has acted. I just try and do the right thing.
And if they have your data, they didnt steal it, you signed it over or they bought it from someone you signed it over to, personal data is rarely stolen, mostly just handed off and then people act like they put a gun to their head to get it.
I'm grateful I have a job so I can afford premium 🙏
Bless your heart
I'm grateful I have the basic technical knowledge of how to install an adblocker. 🙏
I can afford it too, but I won't pay for it on general principle when it costs more than Prime and Tidal combined.
Enjoy paying to be fucked by the corpos!
I can afford to pay the protection racket, I just choose not to.