Why do all the new TVs expect me to have a platform AS WIDE as the fucking thing?? Fucking shit!! God awful absolutely dumb thoughtless design choice
luckily this is just a 32; i had a 70 from the same brand with the same INSANELY FUCKING STUPID STAND DESIGN that i had to find something for....literally at the most extreme edges of the thing, what the fuck is this? this is so fucking stupid, it cannot be meaningfully cheaper than a proper design and it looks fucking dumb as hell and surely this has pissed off 90% of people that wanted a TV and want to put it on a little stand like a normal fucking person right??
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Centre stands need to be way more sturdy to hold it up. You can buy aftermarket VESA centre stands though if you can't wall mount it.
This right here.
The TV comes with the cheapest removable feet, because VESA mounts exist.
And considering the cost and relative light weight, are more or less a requirement
Exactly. I think an aftermarket VESA mount is pretty much required these days for modern TVs, that's the bad news. The good news is that there are plenty of options (center base, wall, swivel, etc), some very affordable, and they should last for multiple TV generations (check VESA pattern, weight limits).
But I get that these tiny, wide feet can be mind boggling at first, since TVs all used to have center stands for decades. Finally, TVs got too large, the cost savings and stability from two tiny feet won out over the alternative of the large, heavy single center base.
Yep OP went with a cheap brand, what did he expect.
Samsung and everyone else does it too.
My LG C3 came with a center stand.
My LG GX came with no stand.
The wider the TV gets, the more stable a two-feet-at-the-ends design becomes compared to a single central foot.
Plus if you need anything else, VESA mounts are super-standard and you just get whatever you need then use it on every Tv you buy.
For those that live in apartments, there are VESA stands that mount to the back of your furniture, and others that use a clamp for tables, so you don’t have to put holes in your walls. I use one on my desk for a fairly wide monitor.
If you’re unfamiliar with VESA mounts, just take note of which of the two standards your device uses. These are going to be either 75x75mm or 100x100mm. Verify with a ruler, don’t rely on the literature to be accurate.
If you wanna be mega-bougie about it, you can get just the mounting plate, and there is couple hardware available to pair it with aluminum extrusion, if you really like that 2040/2080 extrusion.
Have my tv mounted on a VESA monitor arm.
The sloped design made it a bit hard to attach the plate but it worked well enough.
Curved monitors don't have flat mounts? Seriously? That's stupid af.
In my experience, you get spacers to make the VESA mount flat.
No no.
Straight TV panel but sloped backside.
Who the fuck let a designer get close to the back of that thing. Only ever allow designers to view the front of anything, the back is for business.
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Samsung was the culprit.
Was fun searching for compatible M screws as a newbie at the hardware store.
Since it's an older model (around 2016) it was probably a trick to get a thinner look with the hardware.
Interesting and slightly worrying design by the manufacturer, tbh.
I have a TV with a sloped backside, but the VESA part had a removable panel that was replaced with a non-curved one before putting in the screws.
I wish higher end TVs had the option to buy without the stand. They always have beefy center stands in the box even though everyone mounts high end TVs.
Now I'm just stuck with a 50lbs stand that I have no use for.
The G series of LG TVs comes with a flush wall mount kit and no stand at all.
Op didn't check the specs on the item he bought and is upset it's not perfectly tailored to his individual tastes.
You love to see it.
Putting a giant TV on a tiny stand is not normal.. Be mildly infuriated at yourself, not the manufacturer
Yep, the included feet are just something you might be able to use until you get a real mount.
If you really want the TV to stand on furniture, buy a proper vesa mounted stand (they can be very cheap) and maybe even a proper TV table.
That stand doesn't seem tiny to me
That's just an end table by the looks of it. OP said it's only a 32 inch TV. Hell they even provided a cat for scale.
It's too small for that tv
OP blaming their shitty decisions on others. Why are you buying something without knowing its dimensions?
Fuck I hate people like this. The answer btw is pretty obvious. From a weight distribution perspective it's easiest to have two feet as wide apart as possible.
Most TV's don't list the width on the feet on the packaging do they?
People are allowed to complain about annoying widespread design standards
"weight distribution"... They weight practically nothing, and even old heavy ass CRTs sat on narrow platform mounts
I have the same TV and built a custom stand for it. Doesn't change the fact that the included stand is a bad design.
well good thing they're a professional company with professional engineers, glad they're taking the easy route
i bought it because i was at the store and thought 'damn a bedroom tv would be nice' and it was black friday. it's only 32" i hope it fits on the table, and if not i can rig something up, but either way, god fucking dammit these new legs are terrible design because now i have to think about this instead of them just having a damn stand in the center like everyone used to
was sort of what i was thinking
So take it back? If you put it back in the packaging and said "hey, this doesn't fit where I want it", they should take it back. I've never dealt with a store that wouldn't.
I could see this if you ordered it online, sight unseen. Like, if the website were text-based and had no pictures and the description was "It's a TV". But you were at a physical store...
He knew the dimensions of the place where the TV was supposed to go.
He went to the store, saw the TV, he saw the box with a picture of it.
So he brought it home, unpacked it, placed it where it was obviously not going to be able to go.
Then he plugged it in and turned it on.
And instead of just putting it back in its packaging and bringing it back to the store and admit defeat. Or order a new piece of furniture Amazkea.
He instead went on here to fucking complain.
They gambled on an eyeball measurement from memory and lost. It's not that deep.
They don't need to return it because it can still be mounted on a stand or wall. And maybe they want to watch crooked Netflix in the meantime.
...And they complained on mildly infuriating, which seems appropriate because it's not that big of a deal.
All he needs is a small piece of plywood for $5 to fix this.
Feels like everyone is taking this a little too seriously for something mildy infuriating.
Surely, op is capable of solving this minor issue, which is why they rolled the dice that it might fit.
$18 on Amazon, more adjustable than any stand that could possibly be included in the box:
https://www.amazon.com/Articulating-Extension-Rotation-200x200mm-Pipishell/dp/B07SHFPD8S
Then you should stop thinking
To be honest they think that people plan ahead for something like this..
And not have the TV hanging out in space to be knocked over.
cat
How do you not do research on the dimensions of anything before buying something big like a TV?
Mate I'll have done a 3D reconstruction of the room accurate to the mm to test everything out. I'm only slightly exaggerating, I literally did exactly that when planning my new office/studio, had the room in 3D long before we got the house, built everything myself, custom desk, acoustic treatment, etc.
A 32" TV is buying something big?
Do you buy a new TV, like, every other week?
They're like $150 and fit on a dresser. How much remodeling are you going to do for it
It just takes a single measurement to avoid this... Measure/estimate width of the cabinet, look at the TV width, look at pictures of the TV. Then, if the TV is wider than the platform and has wide legs, don't buy something that probably won't fit.
I agree with the others, OP rushed to buy this on black friday without enough thought and now regrets that decision.
It used to take zero measurements to avoid this. That’s OP’s point.
Apparently, if it warrants making a post about it
So many people attacking OP and perhaps not remembering there was a time when nearly all flat panel TVs came on a pedestal mount. The designs were largely changed to mitigate claims and liability.
Nobody tell him about what TV makers expected of you when they were all CRTs…
We had a tv sitting on the floor for a month at one house when I was a kid because that's as far as we could lift it inside and decided that's where it's living untill we build our giant tv cabinet.
Yeah. TV's used to have whole cabinets to hold them.
LBS - Local Bike Shop? How do you measure weight in bike shops?
Lb is the Latin abbreviation for a pound, which English has inexplicably assimilated.
Build a whole wall around it
They don't expect you to have a stand at all. They expect you to buy a separate wall mount piece and mount it directly on the wall.
they expect you to know the lengh of your own table that's why they put the lengh on the site, also, the legs are already short, how OP expext the TV to be stable with it even shorter??
You can make a stable mount without legs as wide as the TV. I have two 27in, 1440p monitors, which both came with stands that were probably 30% as wide as the monitors themselves. However, the stands were weighted and primarily steel (I'm assuming it was steel anyway) with a plastic shell. A TV doesn't need a wide base unless the company that made it is cheaping out and refuses to spend the money to make a weighted base.
Your monitors are probably much more expensive than this TV.
This is like a $150 TV. They aren't going to make a $50 solid steel base and internal frame for that over some cheap injection molded legs.
??????
Bro... That TV is over 7 years old, meant for health centers, and probably weighs 2 - 3 times the TV in OOP.
While yes, it is annoying, nothing modern has a center stand. https://www.google.com/search?q=tv%20with%20center%20stand
It's definitely a cost cutting feature and you definitely can't expect a $200 TV to have a weighted center stand these days.
I will never mount a TV on the wall. That shits annoying.
How is it annoying? I try to wall mount every TV because then I can move it around or angle it easily and it looks 100x better than hanging halfway off a bedside table.
The annoying thing for me is that you have to plug them in and hiding the power cord from dangling down the wall to an outlet sucks, and the only other option is to wire it up through the wall, which is way more work.
That and, again, the mount is sold separately for like 90% of TVs. Just include a basic one with the TV. It's literally just a piece of machined metal.
Or you can just buy one for < $60 to fit your particular use case exactly
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Legrand-0-5-in-White-Straight-Channel-Cord-Cover/3129213
I just use these to hide any cables and it makes them nearly invisible.
It would be nice if they included mounts, but the VESA mounting system is standardized and there are lots of different styles of mounts to fit your needs.
if you're making giant holes in your wall, you're mounting wrong.
most wall mounts are going to be two or three bolt holes into a stud. they should be about as big around as a sharpie. if you remove the mount, a small dab of spackle covers them.
Are you not passing cables through the wall when you wall mount?
I make big ass holes, but I use toggle bolts for anything heavy that doesn't line up with the studs, and those need a 1/2" hole.
Never rely on toggle bolts to hand a tv, find the studs and use lag bolts
The toggle bolts I use are rated for 60lb per bolt. The TV isn't going anywhere.
Yeah I don't want to spackle my walls, thanks.
How often do you move your TV off its shelf?
I tend to rearrange my livingroom more than once a lifetime.
Do you plan on painting ever? That would be the perfect time to fill the holes and paint over them..
No I do not.
Do you realize you're allowed to hang your tv at any height you desire? The police won't arrest you if you just put your tv at eye level.
Frankly, the crime should be if you put it at anything but eye level.
Do you realize I simply do not want my TV hanging on a wall?
Yes. Your reason is just dumb.
I'm glad you care so much about my living room lol
You have to find the studs, drill holes, make sure you have screws that are long enough (I imagine most wall mounts come with these, but never tried to actually wall-mount a TV), make sure the mount is level, then attach the mount to the wall, then the TV to the mount. That's if you don't care about exposed cables, and if you ever plan on showing your room off, someone's gonna point out the lack of cable management (hurrr... Why aren't the cables hidden?).
If you want to hide the cables too, then you have to cut holes in the wall, which means having some kind of saw. If you want the holes to look nice, then you need plates to go over the holes. Depending on the plates -- whether they're a basic, generic passthrough that you push cables through, or something more professional with actual sockets for dedicated inputs/outputs -- you may need extra cables, one for each connection you're wanting to route through the wall, plus extra cables to connect the plate behind the TV to the TV itself.
Now, if you don't want to diy it, then you could pay someone to do it which makes it a lot easier on you, but now you're spending cash to have someone do an easy but annoying and time consuming job for you.
This is mostly unnecessary. I just slap the wall mount up into the studs, hang the TV, and use a $7 cable concealer to hide the power cord. Dedicated outlets for power and video behind the TV is great but that's more suited for rich people or electricians.
Found the American
I have two animals.
Fish don't count in this scenario.
What if they're in a tank?
What kinda tank are we talking here
The kind they don't know how to drive
A T-55
Smaller tank than the one your mom has at Sea World
The true reason is cost, those stands that are included nowadays are insanely cheap and flimsy. If you're buying a large TV, you should budget $30-$50 for a VESA mount.
I think the fucking stupid part of this post is the OP buying a TV oversized for the space they want it on.
I guarantee you the box and everything else also showed the legs being on the side.
Pretty sure when I got my tv there was info on the box about how large of a surface it needs to stand on. OP made a big purchase without doing any planning or research and now they're whining that something isn't right 🙄
OP never bothered to research their purchase properly to buy a TV with a centre stand...
I can't help you but I love this post.
Because you bought a really cheap TV and the little feet on the sides are cheaper than a center stand that needs to be much heavier and sturdier.
Yeah that's one of those companies that buy bulk cheap TVs to slap their logo on and make out they're a tech company... Looking at you Kogan.
TCL owns it's own panel manufacturing company.
The latter half of your comment are probably what use TCL panels, but in this case, this is straight from the source.
Hmm if that's the case I might try the TCL codes on my Universal remote, can't get it to work with my Kogan tv.
No one has seemed to mention the rise of sound bars. Center stands block sound bars and so so many people are using them now.
That's because TV's no longer come with decent audio because they are made as thin as possible for whatever reason.
Bought a new OLED from LG last year. Main body is 3-4 inches thick and the sound is bloody incredible. There are still some gems out there
No surprise, a wide screen tv from the late 90s was big enough to house 2 gaint speakers and a subwoofer.
And took up half your room, and weighed 800 lbs, no thanks.
My dad's place still has a gigantic plasma TV from 2000 that takes up maybe 1/3rd of the room it's in. Great picture, great sound. Completely impractical.
Those sony Trinitrons sounded so damn good, you could hook up two rca's to the AV jack and use the tv as an reasonably good speaker
Flat Panel TV were always meant to use with a sound system. It is only meant to display video. The belief has always been they are for higher end viewing. And it's impossible to get good sound out of a audio in a chassis that thin, that is why sound bars exist. Ask anyone who knows home theaters and they will tell you more than 50% of the experience is the audio. You're better off spending money on a good audio system and even going with a smaller screen if dealing with budget constraints for the best experience. They make them as thin as possible because people want that.
Yeah the speakers they come with are totally just for like pretend. They aren't real or anything
Yeah they rely on the sound bouncing back from the wall which is why some TVs have the speakers on the back
Stand measurements are right on the box! They expect you to read them. 🤣
I have that same TV (50"). They know what they're doing
Same energy
Cat
Op clearly saying something about the cat but can't concentrate because cat
Hahahaha what do you mean? This has to be satire. Nobody is that dense right? If it doesn't fit, don't buy it lmao.
Is it that hard to read the post? OP is right, almost every TV on the market has the same cheap, shitty plastic feet, and they're spaced as far apart as possible so you're unnecessarily size-limited when trying to buy something like a bedroom TV to sit on top of bookshelves or a tallboy.
I'd like something more than 32" for my bedroom too, but I can find one new 40-42" TV on the market with a central stand now, and it is some obscenely expensive 4K OLED thing from Sony. I am keeping an eye out for older, pre-owned TVs as a result, but am yet to find any good deals.
They are that far apart to accommodate soundbars
I don't know a single damn person buying a TCL who has sound bar money
Central stands are just not that safe on bigger screens. Sadly, the easy way is to place feet on each side of the screen. One could always go for a wall mount.
If you don't like a product, don't buy it and if you know that every product has this design, then it's hardly a surprise when you unbox it at home.
This posts seems like OP didn't check if the TV would fit before buying and now they're angry at themselves.
Central stands made as shittily as the ones they put in the box, sure. A proper good central stand that uses the VESA mounts of a TV is a million times safer in my opinion
Almost like you get what you pay for. The manufacturer goes for the cheapest stand to make the entire TV cheaper.
If it had a good central stand it might be more expensive and then OP would buying a different cheaper TV with shitty stands.
You'd be first in line bitching that your TV fell over if they moved them in 6". Wall mounts are $18.... buy one
If the TV is VESA compatible, there are tons of third-party stand options.
Two tiny legs are cheaper than a large flipped “T” base for it to rest on.
At least you have a cat to hold it up
All of you saying you need center stands don’t realize how much heavier the stand needs to be for safety. For cheap TVs, you will get wide stands for freight reasons. They usually come with mounting mechanisms where you can get your own stand that will cost more than the TV itself.
Common sense people. If these shipped with center stands the cost would be double and you’d be complaining about how there’s no TV deals anymore.
You're clearly in the pocket of Big TV Stand.
It's a 32" TCL. Those are like $130. We're talking a 5-10% increase in price which definitely isn't double, but it's significant enough to dramatically affect sales.
They're expecting you to have a mount for your wall, already installed, even, from the last TV. So the legs are an afterthought, they're cheap, easy to remove and you'll probably toss them, they know. So they're enough to use for store display, no more.
Some rental places don't allow you to mess with walls and it would require repainting if you move.
So not always an option.
There are furniture based mounts and standalone vesa stands
Buying a paint can and some spackle isn't expensive enough to prevent me from drilling into the walls (unless you've got popcorn walls or something and that's just foul). I have done it
itin several rentals and got my deposit back in full. The otherportionoption though in this instance is to buy a VESA mount. Some of which can even just be mounted to the tv stand.But also, people should do research before they buy things.
I bought a center stand at Walmart, that mounts to the wall mount spot on the back of the TV. "Onn" brand for $18.
Works, but I do understand your frustration.
Because it is genuinely is way cheaper to include 4x 4" plastic legs, than a steel center stand capable of withstanding the torque.
For people who wall mount and for those with wide tv stands these work fine and save probably $30 / TV, and produce less overall waste.
There's nobody but yourself to blame in this one lmao
I don’t understand why most of the commenters are against you, i find the change from center stands to edge stands annoying. Especially since it seems difficult find smaller TVs nowadays
You should be mounting in on the wall anyway. Unless you want your cat to tip it over, that is.
Ah yes the installed mount in my....apartment I rent and cannot install things into
Damn what shitty place doesn't let you mount stuff to the wall?
Pretty much none allow it in my country.
What do you do if you want to hang a picture frame? Glue it on?
They recently passed a law which said you could install picture hooks "within reason" without being penalised by your landlord. Prior to that if you installed a picture hook you'd likely be charged for the cost of re-plastering the wall when you left. Although they wouldn't actually re-plaster it, they'd just charge you as if they had and then the next renter would have a picture hook so lucky them.
But major mods like installing a TV mount are totally out unless you can negotiate it with the landlord somehow. If you did it without permission it's grounds for eviction and a loss of your bond.
come rent in Australia and find out
Do y'all not get earthquakes in Australia? I'm gonna go look that up. I'm curious.
not really, at least not most of the country. small ones sometimes
There are loads of solutions to that, don't be lazy
Pretty much every landlord in the world will let you hang things on the wall, so long as it's not unreasonably destructive. They're pretty much planning on doing a little spackle and painting the place when any tenant moves out anyway.
A tv mount usually only requires 4-6 screw holes, which wouldn't be hard to fix later on.
Especially in earthquake prone places like the West Coast (USA) or even like India. Even furniture should be mounted to the wall in a lot of places. If it's a health and safety issue (like flat panel tvs would be), then they absolutely will not risk going to court over it and being liable for injuries. I don't get this argument.
There are monitor arms that can be attached to a desk/table, maybe they can be adapted, or maybe there is a mount that can be mounted like this
You can get proper central tv stands that use the VESA mounts. They're great, keep the TV super stable and allows a little bit of swivel if needed too
No you should get a proper stand that mounts to the TV
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That doesn't seem entirely the stands fault
Correct - if it was just the stand, and there was no cat, that TV screen wouldn't have been knocked over.
But... OP has a cat. He's in the picture.
I'm pretty certain it's more to do with what the strand was put on. Feels like no matter what could've been done that shit was wobbly regardless, or that the front of the stand was overhanging it. If the stand was down firmly there's no way touching any part of it would've made the tv tip forward.
Don't underestimate cats. Unless the base is very wide (and not just long) a cat could still knock it over, even if what it stands on is not that "wobbly". Especially if the cat gets the zoomies.
But if the base was flat and not overhanging, how can going on the base make the rest wobble over? Doesn't matter how heavy a thing you put on the base it should not do that
Pepperidge Farm remembers when TVs didn't even come with a "stand". It was just a big box with no real "mounting" options.
I can still remember the sound my back made when I picked up my first 32" TV.
Shudda been liftin with yer legs there, buddy
The way to lift well is using your back completely and then twisting it.
I used to fear what would happen if I dropped one of the older TV's on my foot. It was a pretty great motivator to not drop it, and to try to fall towards it if I fell. Sometimes it even took two people to move them because they were heavy and awkward.
We have definitely advanced in making them more moveable, and I'm happy about that. I don't miss throwing out my back.
I do miss the screen static though.
Its recommended that the surface that you put your TV on be a couple inches wider than your TV.
Only because they made the stand that wide 🙄
because the TV is that wide.
not sure what you expect them to do about it.
TVs were like this for years.... https://www.lg.com/us/business/hospital-tvs/lg-26LD360L
Center-mount stands have been around for years, and were the standard for a very long time. If made well, they work for very large TVs.
They're doing this to cheap out on manufacturing, nothing more. Don't give them a pass for it.
This is a TCL TV. It is a budget TV. Of course, they're going to make it as cheap as possible, otherwise it wouldn't be a budget TV.
Frankly I doubt this TV is more than $150 USD when NOT on sale. Surely not over $200.
I don't mean to be offensive about any of it. It is perfectly fine to buy a TV within your budget but this definitely fits within the expectation of this kind of TV.
It is also very likely not going to have Roku support 5 years past the model's initial manufacture date either.
There should be absolutely no surprises here.
Center stands are more expensive, buy an expensive TV and you'll get one, buy a cheap TV and lose the privilege to complain.
I have a 2014 TV that has a center mount, I had no idea newer ones didn't. I double checked the instruction manual just to be sure we haven't been slowly fucking something up, but the installation mentions nothing about making sure that the table is a minimum size.
The cheap ones don't have them anymore. It's a cost saving measure. There's nothing wrong with it.
A wider base footprint is inherently more stable.
Sketchy fast math says a 32" TV will be roughly 30" wide .... Feet appear to be 3" in on each side which would put them at 24" on center... What kind of umpa lumpa ass table do you have? If that is your only option you can get a treated 8' decking board for like $8, have Lowe's cut it in half and throw it on top of the table to extend it.
It's way cheaper to produce such stands (they can be way less sturdy).
Also stop wide-shaming your perfectly nice 32" cat.
I don't have anything to say about the TV sitch but your cat is pretty.
I actually just bought a Sansui TV that almost wouldn't have fit the desk but it had 2 sets of places where the legs could be attached, so I just attached them to the inner ones. Welcome change. Not sure how uncommon it is since I've only owned like 5 TVs and most just had the little circular base in the middle instead.
The legs being so far out is maybe since manufactures found it to be the most stable places for the skinny leg designs they use now. So yeah, cost cutting measure probably.
I measure the shit out of everything before I even go out to buy a TV. Having this feet design simply would have meant that either I wouldn’t have bought this televisi, or I already intend to replace the table.
Even then just a piece of wood cut to size to lay on top wouldn’t hurt. Table looks scratched up pretty bad as it is anyways so it’s not like appearance is your game here.
cat is build better. cat can stand good.
Did you not see the foot in the store showmodel?
A lot of show models in stores are wall mounted these days, saves on space (especially at places like Walmart and Target where they sell smaller sizes). That's being said, though, it doesn't take much to look under a wall-mounted TV to figure it where the foot(s) go.
You should seek a therapist
Or buy a wooden board. People with large TVs can afford a fence board.
The high cost of wood is the real !mildlyinfuriating.
Is it still really bad? I havent shopped in a while. I mean… the stuff grows on trees.
It's free in your local forest.
give your cat some scritches for me :)
Your orange cat is still trying to process your anger.
I imagine him muttering to himself "tsk tsk tsk ...I knew you should have measured it like I told you...tsk tsk tsk"
Did you measure the table before buying the TV?
There are many thoughtless, idiotic design choices today, for example curved edge phone screens, shitty ultrasonic/photo fingerprint sensors in the scren, no jack connector, microsim, etc. I call it engineer idiotism.
That and the endless pressure to innovate means they end up suggesting stupid shit no one wants and have the sales folks work that out
And that doesn't apply here. The feet are out wide for stability, keep weight down, cost, and leave room for a sound bar.
Your ears don't understand digital signals, you can generally run (unbalanced!) audio over tens of metres without degrading audio quality (because impedance /= resistance) as judged with actually good headphones, and no in-ears have anywhere close to good sound, anyway.
With good muffs the deciding factor (ignoring source material) will be the quality of the DAC, not where it's placed. And even the shittiest DACs nowadays are good enough to drive the best in-ears, simply due to in-ears having, physically, no choice but being shoddy.
We already do have the same connector for all headphones. Well there's also 6.35mm jacks but they're practically the same connector in more shear resistant (it is terribly easy to shear off straight 3.5mm jacks by stumbling over the headphone cord. I recommend a straight plug to straight socket section as predetermined breaking point, and an angled connector on the appliance side).
Headphones neither receive digital signals nor DC power, those are the areas USB-C is actually for... and even within that category we should be careful: Imagine all monitors being USB-C, people nowadays can't even manage to plug their monitor into the GPU instead of motherboard if every connector is USB-C, and they of course all won't have the same feature set, they'll plug it into the mouse our audio port.
What I definitely welcome is the death of the barrel jack, while the form factor is fine they never managed to standardise voltages and polarities. My cheap 10 buck kitchen scale I bought a week ago has a USB-C connector to charge the LIR2450 inside, that's perfect: No fast charging no nothing it just takes straight 5V meaning it will happily charge off a PC from the 1990s, cheap to implement for the manufacturer and they don't need to supply a wall plug.
There is a universal headphone connector.
What's next up for you universal connector? Power plugs? Garden hoses? Also as said everything having the same shape isn't exactly always an advantage. How about a portable DAC? Do you always want me to triple-check which is the analogue output and which is the charge/data port?
This doesn't make any sense. All sound signals must convert to analogue at some point. You simply cannot vibrate the air creating sound waves with a digital signal. Technically I suppose you could, but all you music would just sound like unintelligible beeping, and you'd still need some kind of amplifier to hear it anyway.
All we've done is move the DAC from the phone into the earbuds, or maybe a dongle. The latter may result in better audio if you have a high quality dongle, but the DAC in a pair of wireless earbuds will almost always sound worse simply due to size and power constraints.
oh sure start giving them ideas about usb-c headphone adapters
Sadly nowadays the stands that come in a box should just be used temporarily tool you get a more permanent solution. You can get done really good mounts that use the VESA mounts at the back.
I would never trust the standard stands, they have way too much wobble to them.
Cat: Did you get the accidental coverage Dad? Purrrrr Purrrrr (rubs scent from face on tv) Purr Purr CRASH MRERRRREREOW!!!!!
Kitty is probably over in !cats being like “mildly infuriating…. Human is ignoring me for a flimsy idiot box…. And it’s meal time!”
Nah, it's orange, so it's probably not thinking at all.
Lasagne
that's so rude. you realize, of course, that orange cats only have one brain cell each, it looks like it's shared because that cell is quantum entangled with every other orange brain cell. So it's not that the one cell gets passed around, rather its that all orange cats are thinking the same thought at the same time.
and it's usually "i'm hungry."
The cat is not impressed, yeah.
Very difficult to sleep on.
I believe the OP might be the cat. The cat has a complaining pose.
I mean two little hunks of plastic are most definitely cheaper than something big and sturdy in the middle as it needs to be over engineered to make up for the lack of physics being on its side. You can buy an aftermarket TV stand or wall mount it.
I agree. The tipping threat on a TV is almost exclusively front to back, not side to side. Putting the support legs closer to the middle, but still spaced a third of the width of the TV should be totally adequate. I suspect it's an aesthetics thing now.
I suspect it's a soundbar compatibility thing
Good point!
"your in my spot" - cat
My in your spot
Our cat in spot
They think everyone wants to mount them to the wall now, the legs are like the cheapest possible "courtesy" they're willing to include. It's super annoying, I really don't want the thing on my wall with a bunch of wires hanging down
I'd actually love to wall mount but as a renter, not possible.
Currently living with elderly family and she also won't have a bar of a wall mount.
That sounds illegal. A rental can't really stop you from installing certain safety features. But if I read that right you're renting from and living with an elderly couple and they have refused like a shower bar or similar. If they themselves refuse the safety feature that would be installed for them that's... Legal I guess.
I'm living with my grandmother in law and she's just very fussy. Sometimes we think, I'd rather just pay rent somewhere, but we love her and she's unwell and we're saving money so we're all looking after each other for now and trying not to sweat the small stuff like hanging a television when we don't really need to.
I honestly haven't even asked, but I know what the answer will be - can't even leave the toaster that I use daily on the bench, has to go away once cooled. Getting to leave my coffee machine out was a bloody battle.
Her house, we live here for free and just pay our share of utilities and do our own groceries, and I help her if she is having a bad health day etc. It's fine. It's (mostly) worth the frustration.
I'm more annoyed with the limitations that renters experience in general - it's the landlord's property, but it's the renter's home, and sometimes it feels like we're never really allowed to make any place our own, what with all the rules and regulations and punishments.
ETA: "won't have a bar of.. ", ie she won't accept that sort of thing.
....you can't hang anything in your wall?
Cut a hole behind the TV and another where you want the wires to come out, then fish the wires through the wall. Finish off the holes with cable access brush plates like this:
(Either that, or use keystone jacks and separate cables of the appropriate type within the wall.)
I really don't want to cut a bunch of (or even just 2) holes in my wall though. If I rearrange the room I'll have to make more holes and it's just too much
Exactly
Well put cable management pipes under it to hide them
No thank you. I just want it to sit on the shelf next to my record player
Then get a bloody VESA stand or buy a TV with a stand that fits your desires.
Fucking hell.
Or they could, you know, just include a stand that doesn't suck?
There's no need to get so upset about it
Pay for it, center stands are more expensive because they need a block of steel in them, don't buy the cheapest TV and you'll get a center stand, but the people who complain are also the ones who wouldn't pay the extra for the same model with a center stand.
why are all of the 48" tv screens bigger than my 32" bedside table?
Lmao op you are truly a moron
I'm curious what picture you saw that made you think the legs would be any different.
I've seen the design and I thought it made good sense mechanically, but I hadn't considered this issue. I wonder if stand designs are getting wider too, as a result.
Have you tried moving it an inch to the left?
😅 I kid.
You can buy a vesa stand mount though fairly cheap.
Sony currently do a cool thing with their stands where you can place them in 3 or so different position along the tv if you wanted. Finally someone thinking!
How dare the tv manufacturers and homesense not discuss each other the exact width of possibility you would purchase both products.
People really out here at stupid levels of angry now, eh?
that's why i like the lg stand
DON'T BE FOOLED! This post was made by the cat! It wants narrower TV stands so it can knock them over easier when its owner forgets to feed it!
If feet at the edge of the tv (done for stability) is a stupid design, what would you do differently?
Feet spaced half as far apart. Basically as stable, only a quarter of the length hangs over past the feet on each side.
you bought a cheap TV on black Friday, what did you expect?
No idea but cute cat
My 2008 Samsung had a great center stand. My new TCL has those little feet. Solution is spend another $30 or so on a center stand.
Because the TV is exactly the same width.
This is the conspiracy theorist in me, but it feels a little like they intentionally made it that way to sell more mounts.
Just got my first TV since my old vacuum tube stopped working in the early 90s. 55" Sony flat screen. It has gour fixtures for its stands: a pair that's narrow close to the centre, and a pair if you want a wide stance. I didn't mind the wide option, but I appreciated having a choice.
Hey OP, Wallmount it , will take 15mins and $20.
Damn, this is some next level entitled, petulant, energy.
If you're gonna complain, at least try to do it constructively. As opposed to... Whatever this drivel is.
Cute cat.
Noticed this trend like a decade ago with LG. They used to have a stand in the middle which was much better design wise.
LG C TVs have a center stand...
Sorry for my ignorance but what's a C TV.
LG C1, C2, C3, they're models,
their G series also has a center stand. What people don't understand is that center stands need to be very heavy, they have a separate chunk of steel that's added to the base so the TV is stable, that makes them much more expensive than four plastic legs placed at the extremities. So the people that complain about the legs are also the same people that would look at the 100$ price difference and just not buy the model with the center stand.The G series do not include any stand. They are only intended to be wall mounted. You can buy a center stand that is identical to the C series if you want to though.
Really? Interesting, I saw the pictures on LG's website without a stand and I figured it was only for style since review sites had the C series style stand!
exactly, thank you. i love everyone blaming me for not reading the box -- i knew it would be this obnoxious, i was hoping the table was slightly wider.
but most importantly, it is OBJECTIVELY awful design! i don't care if it's cheaper for them! i don't understand why everyone has some dumb snarky comment when 10+ years ago every flatscreen had a center mount and everything was fine!
What's cheaper for them allowed it to be cheaper for you...
Don’t buy TCL if you want a nice stand included.
also the Samsung manual would tell you to use the tv on a platform as deep as it's height???? wtf
That is so in case it falls then it falls onto the TV Stand not a child.
They don't expect you to do that - but too many people went 'I didn't know' right after their baby head caved in because they didn't child proof anything.
Does it have VESA mount?
That leg design is incredibly ugly as well.
I'm confused why there is a cat in this photo
Get a board and put it beneath the thing?
Usually, It's to distribute the weight. Cheaper brands won't put the weight in the base needed.my LG oled came with a massive but narrow base. I mounted to the wall with a pull and tilt mount and sold the base on offer up for $50.
Agree. I’m canvassing for a 65” TV and I need to include the entertainment stand in the budget because it won’t fit on the current one I have for my 43”.
Came across the same issue when I set up my dads new bedroom telly for him, I bodged it up with a plank on top of the dresser it was sitting on.
This post sure brought out the ugly in some people...
They want you to stop being poor and get better furniture if you want a big tv
I don't know about your TV but that cat rules!!!
It's cheaper to make it that way. Less materials needed.
Y'all expecting too much of OP. Someone who impulse buys a tv on Black Friday isn't smart enough to worry about silly details like physical requirements
Get a universal wall mount.
it is... a large tv.... you need... uhmmm... a large space to put it on. Oh my god. This is a one year old post. Nevermind, you can do whatever you want with you large ass tv.
Swap the legs around so they face inward, not out.
May not work
Chill
Everyone's talking about it being stable, but what's the benefit in stability from having the legs a couple of inches off the end compared to having them halfway from the center to the end?
I don't think it would be worse in any way and it would allow the TV's to stand on smaller surfaces
It’s when you one day accidentally bump the table hard and the TV falls on its face. That’s why they are wide—to prevent that.
What's more stable, you with your feet close to each other or you with your feet far apart?
Me with my feet closer to my elbows rather than me with my feet closer to my hands (thinking of T pose)
Mount it on the wall jackass.