Edit: Either her account was scrubbed or this is fake. Normally, I don't like to go after people like this, but just like trump, if you're a nazi or hang with nazis, I have no problem making fun of your looks.
Tbh I assume she was given instructions to "give Daddy Trump the floor" or something and was essentially forced into such a wacky posture by the WH staff.
This is Susan Lieberman Dell, wife of one of, or the founder of Dell Computers. She also is standing next to a pedophile, rapist, and grifter because she is supporting one of his programs.
My god plastic surgery has done her dirty. In pictures from just a few years ago she looks so much more human. It also looks though like she might have anorexia...
This woman definitely has severe body dysmorphia. No wonder she's taking these jokes so personally
I'm not gonna make fun of her looks either, cuz that really is just rolling around in the mud.
What I will make fun of, though, is literally everything else. She woke up and did that to her face with a makeup kit. She slapped clown-red on her lips, 2000s emo black on her eyes, contoured her face with a ruler, went to a barber and said "make my bangs as flat as I've drawn on my eyebrows," teased out the sides of her hair in a way that is shockingly unflattering for her face shape, reverse-molted the Seinfeld puffy shirts of red dresses, and draped chains like an off-brand Zsa Zsa Gabor.
These were all choices and she did a bad job at all of them, then doesn't like it when trolls steal her goblin costume. Nazis are obsessed with Sydney Sweeney—put this horseshit on her and see if she can pull it off. I dunno what you're good at, Susan Dell, but this isn't it. First, quit making poor choices with your makeup, then maybe we can work on your nasty Nazi habit.
Don't want to become a public joke? Don't try to influence public policy. Easy peasy.
I don't get these fucking leeches, they could live multiple lifetimes and never have to deal with any stress, but instead they try and make all our lives worse and complain when we punch back.
Because they don't get enjoyment out of life. They thrive on "being someone", "being important", for other people to praise them. That's their whole motivation. The money is just a means to that end. They are deeply insecure, and they need constant validation and for people to cheer them on. They love drama, because it artificially creates something that "matters", and they have big opinions on it. They will never stop.
I don't get these fucking leeches, they could live multiple lifetimes and never have to deal with any stress, but instead they try and make all our lives worse and complain when we punch back.
Same. If I had that much money I'd be quietly trying to give the vast majority of it away as silently as possible.
Like don't get me wrong I'd definitely be looking after my friends and family handsomely but shit.... Just spend the rest doing good and shut the fuck up.
What is this phenomenon where so many people in Trump’s orbit have obvious and shitty plastic surgery. Is it a desire to fit in? Is it the white nationalist/fascist equivalent of a gang tattoo?
So it is like a gang tattoo, or I guess maybe a cattle brand would be a better analogy. Permanently disfigure your body in a hideous fashion to show you’re really “one of us.”
I wonder if there’s some external psychological aspect. Like, is there implicit or explicit pressure to have this done, because once it’s done they know it’ll be very difficult to escape the cult-like environment?
But in those cultures those are status symbols, whereas Mar A Lago face seems to indicate that you’re part of their in-group. Do the lip and neck stretchers indicate something similar to members of those cultures?
Someone online said that people in wealthy circles are only surrounded by other wealthy people who also have plastic surgery... so their definition of normal is, not. You know, the whole "losing touch" thing that happens to 99% of people who get their bag.
This. I actually wonder if there's a person to trace the look back to (like current extreme features in men go back to Zyzz), or if a particular surgical technique led to a distinct look post surgery that was unavoidable, so some people started fitting the rest of their features to that look.
Conservatives are only anxious about gas prices and the fact that their attempt to oppress and exterminate vulnerable classes appears to be in jeopardy. They are nervous that their dream of permanent power might be slipping away.
Conservatives are the oppressors, not the victims. In fact, conservatives would call your expression of empathy for them "woke" and see it as a weakness to exploit.
Understand that a conservative is biologically unable to experience empathy. This is why they despise it and are disgusted by it. Give them a hint of empathy and they will use it to attack you.
LOL… they elected Dumpster Fire to be a dumpster fire. They’re influencers. They don’t care about the status quo, unless it’s racist, sexist, or misogynist and sometimes ableist.
More then just a "uniform" or a "brand", like a tie or designer or tattoo, these faces have deep psychological underpinnings.
This face is a comfort for a fascist to behold. Any expensive surgery could do for signaling. This face was landed-on through trial and error, for a reason.
Studying paintings done by the mentally ill, it becomes obvious that they don't see faces (or anything really) like the average person. This makes sense, as even a well adjusted person will interpret an expression or tone differently depending on what they perceive the person to be feeling, or even their own mood. They will literally see it differently.
The mentally ill just see an extreme version of this phenomenon.
Fascists are terrified all the time. To them, every face hides malice and deception. Mar-a-lago face is an exaggeration of a jovial, open, honest visage, to counteract what a fascist sees every day in every face.
They have huge, puffy cheeks under their eyes, like the bunching of skin in a smile. Their lips are big and puffy, a far cry from pursed in anger, this also makes a smile more exaggerated. Their eyes are deeply, darkly outlined in ovals, not pointed at the edges, highlighting how they are open and not squinting or angry.
Maralago face is a caricature of a happy, loving, honest face. To a normal person it looks like a horrific joke on that type of face, taken to extremes, but to a fascist, these exaggerations push back against their own skewed vision of every face. These exaggerations return the face closer to a normal person's baseline.
To a fascist, this face appears more normal and more comforting.
Confidently said, and definitely interesting to think about.
I still tend to think it's a lot simpler than that. Body dysmorphic disorder is a very real thing, at least 2 or 3 in 100. BDD + Money = Lots of "bad" plastic surgery (it's not bad surgery, it's exactly what they asked for....
Money, especially the money that makes unlimited plastic surgery an option, is concentrated at the top.
You don't get to the top by thinking about others, so most of those at the top are the hard conservatives, with little to no morals AKA MAGA.
So you're going to see that face everywhere in the White House and rallies. It's all the people with BDD that also have a lot of money.
I completely agree. This is due to BDD, and the BDD is being expressed this way because these women have the money to do so.
But also, eh.
BDD has many different sources and presents in many different ways. You can have it with eating disorders, OCD, major depressive disorders, etc. It can cause you to see yourself in a myriad of false ways.
This particular presentation I am speaking about is going to present with personality traits adjacent to cluster C personality disorders, and anxiety disorders, and it causes the above result.
In this instance, you saying "it's a lot simpler than that" would be like if I described the specific ways the Nile river comes into existence and you countered with "it's simpler than that. It's just evaporation and gravity." Which is true, but completely discards the nuance and detail I was trying to impart, for a false sense of understanding.
So, you are completely right, but all you did was add more jpeg.
They're just typical trash with money. But being trash, they don't have any connections that aren't also trash. So they get the trash plastic surgeons to slice and dice them.
I believe the men are scamming the women. They aren't married for love or lust, or if they were, that faded with age. And they are so fake just by default that even the ones who do still love each other probably don't feel secure about it because of course they'd say "No babe, I just love you and am not interested in anyone else" regardless of if that's true or if they are having orgies at every business trip.
And cosmetic surgeons target insecurities and promise the world whether or not they can actually deliver.
So it wouldn't surprise me if what happens in a bunch of those cases is an insecure woman gets the surgery done, it looks like it does, and their husband gets a kick out of them ruining their looks in an attempt to impress them, also being happy that it reduces the number of other men that would be interested.
Similar thing for "influencers" or women in porn that buy into the "this is what men want" lie.
Though ironically, I bet there is a sexual angle to it, too, where seeing their wife ruin their looks to impress them turns them on, but I doubt the sex is loving.
Anyways, just my attempt at making sense out of something that seems to me to do more to put them on the far side of the uncanny valley than to help them look any better. If they unironically like that look, I can't relate to them at all.
Other than the haircut she looks nice, not sure what happened. Like others said, dysphoria I guess. Too much plastic surgery and someone should have fixed her heavy heavy makeup.
It's not fair to compare a 20 year old picture to an older version but she sure does look like she would have aged well, and she is in phenomenal shape, distance triathlon athlete.
What I don't understand is why these hyper-rich people can't get good surgery. 2 ladies at my work got eye lifts (partly for medical reasons) and they look perfectly natural. Honestly, I don't understand what is going on.
Her style choices at the white house were also perplexing. You have enough money to hire a stylist to help you find flattering clothes and a makeup artist. The red dress not a good red for her and the makeup that looks like she let an 8 year old do it. None of it makes sense.
I bet they are intolerable to interact with and not willing to pay what it'd cost to hire a professional to help them look normal.
Also, these oligarchs are terrified of people outside their class to the point they want to put bomb collars on their security detail. That type of attitude buys a lot of malicious compliance
But melania is often stylish, not always but at least looks like someone looked at her body type and complexion and made reasonable choices based on them. And she has to be at least that much of a POS. And the Kardashian people and so many more.
Madam Dell really stands out, like there is not one good thing I can say about her look. I can't see her shoes, maybe they were nice. I don't understand how. I am not a professional and could have made her look so much better, so much of this uncanny awfulness is bad choices not fundamental to her look.
With darker hair and better makeup (top still not a great color for her, and she ought not darken her eyebrows so much with the blond hair, and still I don't think good surgery but better)
I honestly thought it was some viral marketing for a horror movie for a while until I figured out that this eldritch horror was and actual person (allegedly).
Is it tasteless? Yes.
Why is it allowed?
Because we have first amendment rights Susan— and questioning the rights of the masses just wasted any sympathy you were getting.
Well, that, and the fact the Trump accounts you helped create are already getting called out for fraud.
In December 2025, she and her husband announced they would be donating over 6 billion dollars to fund investment accounts for at least 25 million children in the United States as part of the Trump Accounts initiative
A week ago she and her husband showed up at the White House to celebrate it and people have been making fun of her appearance ever since.
Skeptics felt the donation was in exchange for a government contract.
donating over 6 billion dollars to fund investment accounts for at least 25 million children
$250 per child? Like, a week of daycare? Oh, investment accounts ... so two weeks of daycare in twenty years. Unless it's invested in AI, in which case zero weeks of daycare.
I don't know what the right move would be for someone in her situation, but I do know that whiny posts directed to the mayor of NYC is diametrically opposed to whatever the right move might be.
Someone with her wealth could put down their phone, walk away from public life, and literally hide out in a luxury resort until nobody gives a fuck anymore.
You'd think someone would have told her that by now.
walk away from public life, and literally hide out in a luxury resort until nobody gives a fuck anymore
that would be like being in a prison. that is the problem with the money. their lack can definitely make your life miserable, but once you pass some threshold on the way to wealth, you will find out that lying by the side of the pool whole day can only make you happy for so long. so they try to find that something that will make them happy, as everyone. unfortunately for them, they don't really get much relevant feedback, because they are only surrounded by boot lickers.
She stands like she's posing for a fashion photoshoot, but looks around the room like she's an owl that hears the heartbeat of a wee mouse beneath the floorboards.
It was creepy af. At one point it looked like she was standing at a 45 degree angle. I never could find that part of the video. The whole group in the Oval Office looked interpersonally disjointed
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I don't want to see this horror movie villain any more.
No seriously.. I'm not American and she's so fucking weird looking.
Please America.. Please please just go fucking vote.. Don't listen to right or left wing media... just go fucking vote.
I need your news to go back to being "aaaahhh the president wore a weird shirt".
The voting doesn't make policy. "Donations" makes policy.
bOtH pArTiEs change their own platforms to accommodate their financiers. They don't actually have any real standards. Ds aren't actually "pro labor". Rs aren't actually "state's rights".
That's all lip service, and ignored immediately when inconvenient.
Don't listen to what they say, that's how they trick you, lying is "easy mode".
Watch what they do.
Those "weird shirt" glory days are dead, let it go. It's going to get a lot worse.
Never said not to vote, but we are definitely living in a fascist dystopia. Vote for the lesser of evils, but make no mistake you are still voting for evil.
Some people acting like idiots seem to think saying the quiet part out loud is wrong.
Pretty much. The US has been full on fascist since the term was invented. People are acting all surprised meanwhile the US has been bombing brown people and abusing the fuck out of its own citizens the whole time.
Archives were shut down, so it's hard to tell anymore. She currently has no posts. I don't think it's real, but the OP did a great job of making it sound like it.
When are people going to learn these billionaire narcissists don't care what we say about them, just that we talk about them.
This post and everything about her, is what she wants you to do.
I'm understanding when maga falls for this shit, but it's so fucking depressing to see people on the left incapable of seeing they're being manipulated
If you know they're narcissists, then you should also know that narcissists are among the most insecure human beings on this planet, if not the most. They definitely don't like being made fun of, even if they mask it well.
These are people who stole children and took them to a far away place to fuck them to death in secret. If you don't watch them like hawks out of some misplaced sense of sticking it to their ego, you're guilty of negligence.
Isn't this a fake tweet? I can't find any instance of it being real and it seems too on the nose. Everyone here in the comments talking about the Streisand Effect, but that doesn't apply if she didn't say anything and people are just making shit up on the internet. But I guess that's Lemmy these days, no one gives a fuck if something is real or not.
I personally upvoted because it was a funny cosplay, but I admit I didn't fact-check the tweet and downvote if it was ... misrepresentative of the facts.
Unfortunately most people cheer for Bad Talk About Hated People without a care in the world to its veracity, and when you step in to question the hive, you tend to get stung.
"Being allowed in New York". If you lock the cosplayers up, we are going to have to lock up all the rednecks with the "Biden tied up on my trunk" vinyls on their truck bed.
Ma'am... for someone with access to THAT much money to have chosen the shittiest plastic surgeon ever does somewhat open the door to ridicule, although you have to admit we're not doing it with AI. Face it... like the D.C. "pool guy" - ya fucked up. Maybe find one who knows what he's doing this time and quit shopping the republican nightmare face "doctors". Like Phil. Or Oz. get a real fucking surgeon and spend a lot of money.
And in closing, I say this as an ardent admirer of earlier "you" - politics and religion aside - cuz you were a cutie. Remember when we were building the mountain top pool and most of us were in the hole and you came over to the edge of the pool hole and talked to the boss in a miniskirt (or similar) with no panties? Walked up to the edge of the hole and were talking with the boss (and us). What has since become known as an "upskirt", although we had no intentional part in that. We were ALL watching a miracle - nice! I thought "damn! wife's a babe, excellent computers, a pool build by us... Michael is doing okay!"
Funny - It almost gave the old man a heart attack. He started stuttering. You had him speechless! But what a babe! Yowza!
anyway - they did you wrong. Get with Cruise, Pitt, Jolie, Anniston... they'll steer you in the right direction. Don't talk politics though - they'll kick you out.
Ciao mon bella, and get that kisser fixed for real.
Susan, you have made my jaded heart feel pity, you're so hideous that I feel guilty for laughing at your expense.
Comedy is a harsh mistress; as we laugh at others, we all do it with some underlying terror, knowing that her baleful eye could always turn upon us. She giveth, and she taketh away.
Unpopular opnion here: I think there is plenty to criticise Susan Dell for but to reducer her to some weird body shaming is pretty ... retro. Like in the good old days.
That sounds a lot like "she shouldn't have dressed like that". I don't follow her social media habits, does she post posing images highlighting her looks or is she simply somewhere doing something? What I have seen was here being somewhere doing something.
If it makes you feel better, you can make fun of the looks of a woman in her 60s with botched plastic surgery. Or you can talk about her questionable actions instead. I prefer doing the latter but to each their own.
Her botched surgeries are part of her questionable actions. She wears the skin to play the part.
In other words, if she wasnt such a ghoul (on the inside) she wouldn’t have felt the need to pursue a look so hard that she overshot the uncanny valley.
But not only did she do that, but she did it in pursuit of further enriching herself as an oligarch, to promote Trump Accounts to children.
To be clear, they’re making money off those things somehow. When the economy they made unstable finally crashes, they’re goin to walk away with billions, partially from those, and those kids will be left with nothing, same as it always was.
She got up there in that dress, with that eyeliner, and those eyebrows from the my dog has eyebrows meme and stood next to convicted rapist, pedophile kingpin, war criminal Donald Trump and proclaimed loudly and proudly that she was glad to be teamed up.
You are in fact doing neither. You're here wagging you finger at internet strangers and acting self righteous about a hypothetical situation you've made up in your head.
Judging from your comment history you have nothing positive to contribute to my lemmy experience. bubye
It's different and here's why. She didn't look like that naturally. This is her engaging in cosmetic surgery to alter her appearance into ... something... that is currently in vogue with a certain demographic of white house boot licking sycophants. It's called Mar-a-lago face, and it's done purposefully to ingratiate oneself to a certain fascist, racist, 34-count felon pedophile rapist. And if you were to drastically alter yourself to appease someone like that, well, you deserve to be mocked.
Look, you can check my post history. I fucking hate the pedo billionaire class, but this is still not ok.
We all choose our appearance to some extent.
She's chosen to alter her appearance to fit in with her chosen group, and instead of attacking her for the (admittedly despicable) views of that group, you're choosing the easier thing to pick apart. An appearance that you don't like because it's associated with that group. At the very least, it's lazy. It's stooping to their level. It's not ok.
This is like when Tim Walz was running for VP and called republicans "weird." And we all got it, and understood it, and it was a popular bit of messaging that resonated with people. Because, let's face it, they're fucking weird.
But then the democrats were like "oh no! but you might offend someone!" so they stopped the popular messaging that resonated with voters and didn't use it again right before failing.
Look, making fun of someone for their appearance isn't the classiest thing to do, but when you're talking about a group that's literally worshiping at the feet of a golden altar of protecting pedophiles, you take the shots you can. And whatever hurts their feelings the most, well, I'm ok with it. We don't always have to take the high ground. Sometimes you gotta hit'em where it hurts.
No. This makes you no better than a MAGAt attacking AOC for her appearance because you're too dim witted to make a good argument against her politics. It brings you down to the level of someone harrasing a transgender person because they don't "pass"
This is not the way.
ETA: Also Tim Walz wasn't attacking a single individual woman based solely on her appearance. He was attacking republican politics. HE was doing it right. This is NOT that.
I mean, you're right. I should be above it. But I'm not. Fuck that ghoul of a woman. Elitist rich bitch got her face all fucked up so she could fit in with a big group of pedophile protectors. Fuck her and her weird ass face. Hope every time she looks in the mirror she's haunted by the ghosts of pedophiles past, present, and future.
And again, I know I should be better than this. But I'm not. Fuck her.
Her weakness is out here for all of us to see and you’re like “no don’t attack that!”. She doesn’t give a fuck about how despicable her views are. She gives a fuck about her appearance. She’s an ugly cut up disgusting looking cunt and she deserves to know we feel that way about her.
But more importantly, the people making fun of her for her looks are shitty. They're reinforcing the unhealthy standards the media has of what women are supposed to look like, and they are portraying opposition to Trump and his allies as being mean-spirited bullies and sore losers of some silly popularity contest rather than proponents of actual causes. It encourages all of the harassment that right-wingers make against progressive women.
Why do you care if you are down voted by people who are so obviously the bad guys? This woman did a fantastic thing. She doesn't decide who is the president.
WTF are you even talking about? She's a vile person with vile beliefs. She does not deserve to be attacked for her appearance. These beliefs are not mutually exclusive.
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Is this based on a real episode?! It's amazing.
I love this gif
25 years from now, this gif will still be popping up from time to time, and it will still make me laugh.
This one doesn't get shared as much but I think it's just as useful when you encounter whiny MAGAts.
Big feelings are okay
For those who don't know:
Edit: Either her account was scrubbed or this is fake. Normally, I don't like to go after people like this, but just like trump, if you're a nazi or hang with nazis, I have no problem making fun of your looks.
It's even better zoomed out where you can really appreciate the fent fold posture where she's holding herself at a 30 degree angle from upright.
I haven't seen that version. Is that why the OP pic of this post has her leaned weird?
Sorry for the low res image but I can't get my own uploads to work so...
Wow, thanks for posting that. She really does seem to have more issues than a plastic surgery and makeup addiction.
Maybe he smells really bad.
Maybe? That is confirmed multiple times.
Evil leaves a mark on one's face
Tbh I assume she was given instructions to "give Daddy Trump the floor" or something and was essentially forced into such a wacky posture by the WH staff.
But the fent/K angle is funnier.
My guess is she's trying to escape his terrible smell.
Oooo that's a good one too
My partner and I can't help but point out "arched back" ever since the south park realty episode
Yep!
This might honestly be the most unsettling thing I've ever looked at. It makes me wanna cry and throw up, but I keep looking at it. What's this from?
A weird and timely story of memes and modern art. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Momo_Challenge_hoax
I’d love to fuck that.
I'd love for you to fuck that, I'm rooting for you!
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This is her but blonde or brunette still a fugly bitch
I saw pictures, but I realize it is the first time I see her move. She straight up looks and move like the martians in Mars Attack.
am getting uncanny valley vibes.
Mission Impossible vibes for me.
If Tom Cruise popped out it would not phase me in the slightest.
I saw one post that suggested Susan Dell was actually Steven Miller in drag and I can't unsee it lol
I'm gonna need to see the balloon titty receipts on that one
To be clear, I'm not disagreeing I'm making a reference.
https://www.instagram.com/reels/DWlyKz_laSM/
Oh, I got the reference. I was just providing some of those aforementioned receipts (mostly to help further along the meme)
That's legit unnerving and I don't like it.
Good god that is creepy.
Is this Animatronics?
Thank you. I refuse to watch the news. I thought this was slop but reality is way worse.
Can anyone pick up for those that still don't know (maybe due to watching without sound)?
Who is the ghoulish lady?
This is Susan Lieberman Dell, wife of one of, or the founder of Dell Computers. She also is standing next to a pedophile, rapist, and grifter because she is supporting one of his programs.
My god plastic surgery has done her dirty. In pictures from just a few years ago she looks so much more human. It also looks though like she might have anorexia...
This woman definitely has severe body dysmorphia. No wonder she's taking these jokes so personally
She's a marathon runner, triathloner, I don't think she's anorexic just skinny.
Dysmorphia sure, I can buy that. She can't be seeing herself objectively.
Ty!
I'm not gonna make fun of her looks either, cuz that really is just rolling around in the mud.
What I will make fun of, though, is literally everything else. She woke up and did that to her face with a makeup kit. She slapped clown-red on her lips, 2000s emo black on her eyes, contoured her face with a ruler, went to a barber and said "make my bangs as flat as I've drawn on my eyebrows," teased out the sides of her hair in a way that is shockingly unflattering for her face shape, reverse-molted the Seinfeld puffy shirts of red dresses, and draped chains like an off-brand Zsa Zsa Gabor.
These were all choices and she did a bad job at all of them, then doesn't like it when trolls steal her goblin costume. Nazis are obsessed with Sydney Sweeney—put this horseshit on her and see if she can pull it off. I dunno what you're good at, Susan Dell, but this isn't it. First, quit making poor choices with your makeup, then maybe we can work on your nasty Nazi habit.
https://youtu.be/GEsWIl0yPp8
Side note, that's the baking show guy Noel? So much makes sense now.
I think you mean, The Mighty Boosh...
Tell me, friend... You ever drink Bailey's from a shoe?
Looks like the ghoul forgot to put on its human mask.
Discord Adams in the Whitehouse?
Don't want to become a public joke? Don't try to influence public policy. Easy peasy.
I don't get these fucking leeches, they could live multiple lifetimes and never have to deal with any stress, but instead they try and make all our lives worse and complain when we punch back.
Because they don't get enjoyment out of life. They thrive on "being someone", "being important", for other people to praise them. That's their whole motivation. The money is just a means to that end. They are deeply insecure, and they need constant validation and for people to cheer them on. They love drama, because it artificially creates something that "matters", and they have big opinions on it. They will never stop.
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ParkAmerica just did an episode about this on how Billionaires can’t keep their opinion to themselves.For a while I thought they were actual penis’.
plural of penis is penises.
We would also accept penii
Can anyone?
Same. If I had that much money I'd be quietly trying to give the vast majority of it away as silently as possible.
Like don't get me wrong I'd definitely be looking after my friends and family handsomely but shit.... Just spend the rest doing good and shut the fuck up.
is there some scientific breakthrough i am not aware of?
Hinduism.
right, the good old science of hinduism... 😆
What is this phenomenon where so many people in Trump’s orbit have obvious and shitty plastic surgery. Is it a desire to fit in? Is it the white nationalist/fascist equivalent of a gang tattoo?
Maralago Face
So it is like a gang tattoo, or I guess maybe a cattle brand would be a better analogy. Permanently disfigure your body in a hideous fashion to show you’re really “one of us.”
I wonder if there’s some external psychological aspect. Like, is there implicit or explicit pressure to have this done, because once it’s done they know it’ll be very difficult to escape the cult-like environment?
I would compare it more to cultures who denote status by who has the biggest disc in their lip or the longest spring on their neck:
But in those cultures those are status symbols, whereas Mar A Lago face seems to indicate that you’re part of their in-group. Do the lip and neck stretchers indicate something similar to members of those cultures?
Yes. That you have money.
Mark of the Beast if you want to go for a biblical angle
It's been decades since I lost my faith, but I would love the absolute irony of this if it turned out to be true.
In Mar A Lago face, whoever has the most collagen injected into their lips is the alpha
At least it's a meritocracy instead of "who can be the most psychopathic pedo?"
That's what it feels like to me too; a show of commitment that you can't walk away from.
"I'm gonna give you somethin' you can't take off."
Someone online said that people in wealthy circles are only surrounded by other wealthy people who also have plastic surgery... so their definition of normal is, not. You know, the whole "losing touch" thing that happens to 99% of people who get their bag.
This. I actually wonder if there's a person to trace the look back to (like current extreme features in men go back to Zyzz), or if a particular surgical technique led to a distinct look post surgery that was unavoidable, so some people started fitting the rest of their features to that look.
You 'mirrin bro?
Not a person, exactly.
Conservatism is a mental illness. The more conservative someone is, the weirder they appear to the normal people.
I think conservatives do come from a place of anxiety in general, but they are usually of the mindset to keep the status quo.
The mental illness is authoritarianism that comes as conservatives start to actively make things worse.
Conservatives are only anxious about gas prices and the fact that their attempt to oppress and exterminate vulnerable classes appears to be in jeopardy. They are nervous that their dream of permanent power might be slipping away.
Conservatives are the oppressors, not the victims. In fact, conservatives would call your expression of empathy for them "woke" and see it as a weakness to exploit.
Understand that a conservative is biologically unable to experience empathy. This is why they despise it and are disgusted by it. Give them a hint of empathy and they will use it to attack you.
LOL… they elected Dumpster Fire to be a dumpster fire. They’re influencers. They don’t care about the status quo, unless it’s racist, sexist, or misogynist and sometimes ableist.
More then just a "uniform" or a "brand", like a tie or designer or tattoo, these faces have deep psychological underpinnings.
This face is a comfort for a fascist to behold. Any expensive surgery could do for signaling. This face was landed-on through trial and error, for a reason.
Studying paintings done by the mentally ill, it becomes obvious that they don't see faces (or anything really) like the average person. This makes sense, as even a well adjusted person will interpret an expression or tone differently depending on what they perceive the person to be feeling, or even their own mood. They will literally see it differently.
The mentally ill just see an extreme version of this phenomenon.
Fascists are terrified all the time. To them, every face hides malice and deception. Mar-a-lago face is an exaggeration of a jovial, open, honest visage, to counteract what a fascist sees every day in every face.
They have huge, puffy cheeks under their eyes, like the bunching of skin in a smile. Their lips are big and puffy, a far cry from pursed in anger, this also makes a smile more exaggerated. Their eyes are deeply, darkly outlined in ovals, not pointed at the edges, highlighting how they are open and not squinting or angry.
Maralago face is a caricature of a happy, loving, honest face. To a normal person it looks like a horrific joke on that type of face, taken to extremes, but to a fascist, these exaggerations push back against their own skewed vision of every face. These exaggerations return the face closer to a normal person's baseline.
To a fascist, this face appears more normal and more comforting.
Thanks! That’s terrifying! The people we put in charge of everything exist in a state of psychosis.
Confidently said, and definitely interesting to think about.
I still tend to think it's a lot simpler than that. Body dysmorphic disorder is a very real thing, at least 2 or 3 in 100. BDD + Money = Lots of "bad" plastic surgery (it's not bad surgery, it's exactly what they asked for....
Money, especially the money that makes unlimited plastic surgery an option, is concentrated at the top.
You don't get to the top by thinking about others, so most of those at the top are the hard conservatives, with little to no morals AKA MAGA.
So you're going to see that face everywhere in the White House and rallies. It's all the people with BDD that also have a lot of money.
I completely agree. This is due to BDD, and the BDD is being expressed this way because these women have the money to do so.
But also, eh.
BDD has many different sources and presents in many different ways. You can have it with eating disorders, OCD, major depressive disorders, etc. It can cause you to see yourself in a myriad of false ways.
This particular presentation I am speaking about is going to present with personality traits adjacent to cluster C personality disorders, and anxiety disorders, and it causes the above result.
In this instance, you saying "it's a lot simpler than that" would be like if I described the specific ways the Nile river comes into existence and you countered with "it's simpler than that. It's just evaporation and gravity." Which is true, but completely discards the nuance and detail I was trying to impart, for a false sense of understanding.
So, you are completely right, but all you did was add more jpeg.
It felt a lot simpler in my head before I got to writing it all down 😂
This explains why conservatives see nothing wrong with how they look. Conservatism is a disease that breeds weirdness and evil.
it is a manifestation of his taste and what people he chooses to surround himself with.
i once saw this photo described as "this is poor person's idea of how rich people live." and it just sums him up in one sentence.
https://www.thetimes.com/imageserver/image/methode%2Ftimes%2Fprod%2Fweb%2Fbin%2Fcc0b0032-a77a-11e6-b67a-719634415da0.jpg
This is a poor child's idea of a rich person.
The stuffed lions just gets me lol. I dont think ive ever seen the full picture, only ever the left half
They're just typical trash with money. But being trash, they don't have any connections that aren't also trash. So they get the trash plastic surgeons to slice and dice them.
I believe the men are scamming the women. They aren't married for love or lust, or if they were, that faded with age. And they are so fake just by default that even the ones who do still love each other probably don't feel secure about it because of course they'd say "No babe, I just love you and am not interested in anyone else" regardless of if that's true or if they are having orgies at every business trip.
And cosmetic surgeons target insecurities and promise the world whether or not they can actually deliver.
So it wouldn't surprise me if what happens in a bunch of those cases is an insecure woman gets the surgery done, it looks like it does, and their husband gets a kick out of them ruining their looks in an attempt to impress them, also being happy that it reduces the number of other men that would be interested.
Similar thing for "influencers" or women in porn that buy into the "this is what men want" lie.
Though ironically, I bet there is a sexual angle to it, too, where seeing their wife ruin their looks to impress them turns them on, but I doubt the sex is loving.
Anyways, just my attempt at making sense out of something that seems to me to do more to put them on the far side of the uncanny valley than to help them look any better. If they unironically like that look, I can't relate to them at all.
The men get them to. Just not as much.
They should not be ALLOWED to wear COSTUMES! YOU SHOULD BE ON TOP OF THIS MONDOMMY
lmfao
GOT DAYUM ZORHAN MOMDOMMY!
literal communist dystopia
A series of very poor choices led her to standing next to Trump in the Oval office looking like that. The first one was marrying Michael Dell.
Other than the haircut she looks nice, not sure what happened. Like others said, dysphoria I guess. Too much plastic surgery and someone should have fixed her heavy heavy makeup.
It's not fair to compare a 20 year old picture to an older version but she sure does look like she would have aged well, and she is in phenomenal shape, distance triathlon athlete.
What I don't understand is why these hyper-rich people can't get good surgery. 2 ladies at my work got eye lifts (partly for medical reasons) and they look perfectly natural. Honestly, I don't understand what is going on.
Her style choices at the white house were also perplexing. You have enough money to hire a stylist to help you find flattering clothes and a makeup artist. The red dress not a good red for her and the makeup that looks like she let an 8 year old do it. None of it makes sense.
I bet they are intolerable to interact with and not willing to pay what it'd cost to hire a professional to help them look normal.
Also, these oligarchs are terrified of people outside their class to the point they want to put bomb collars on their security detail. That type of attitude buys a lot of malicious compliance
But melania is often stylish, not always but at least looks like someone looked at her body type and complexion and made reasonable choices based on them. And she has to be at least that much of a POS. And the Kardashian people and so many more.
Madam Dell really stands out, like there is not one good thing I can say about her look. I can't see her shoes, maybe they were nice. I don't understand how. I am not a professional and could have made her look so much better, so much of this uncanny awfulness is bad choices not fundamental to her look.
With darker hair and better makeup (top still not a great color for her, and she ought not darken her eyebrows so much with the blond hair, and still I don't think good surgery but better)
Dysphoria is a hell of a drug
Actual sex doll vibes
Ma'am, you turned into a public joke the second you stood in the Oval Office behind the stink lines and looked like some shit out of Inception.
I honestly thought it was some viral marketing for a horror movie for a while until I figured out that this eldritch horror was and actual person (allegedly).
I only know this image as the 'sleep paralysis demon'. I thought originally it was for a movie as well.
Is it tasteless? Yes. Why is it allowed? Because we have first amendment rights Susan— and questioning the rights of the masses just wasted any sympathy you were getting. Well, that, and the fact the Trump accounts you helped create are already getting called out for fraud.
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Now only the rich and powerful have first amendment rights in the USA.
I literally had no idea wtf this was about. Now I do. Thanks Susan.
Ya her POSTING the image is what blows my mind. Like lady stahp!
I'm confused. What is it that they're mad is being allowed? People on the streets in costumes?
It's a fake tweet making fun of her appearance.
She's one of the billionaires that support Trump.
A week ago she and her husband showed up at the White House to celebrate it and people have been making fun of her appearance ever since.
Skeptics felt the donation was in exchange for a government contract.
https://www.onestnetwork.com/pentagons-9-7-billion-microsoft-dell-deal-follow-the-infrastructure-then-follow-the-money/
$250 per child? Like, a week of daycare? Oh, investment accounts ... so two weeks of daycare in twenty years. Unless it's invested in AI, in which case zero weeks of daycare.
You kids just be grateful its not negative days of daycare!
That's what options are for!
it's basically ''zero weeks'' either way. child care is expensive.
Internet doesn't work like that honey.
I don't know what the right move would be for someone in her situation, but I do know that whiny posts directed to the mayor of NYC is diametrically opposed to whatever the right move might be.
Someone with her wealth could put down their phone, walk away from public life, and literally hide out in a luxury resort until nobody gives a fuck anymore.
You'd think someone would have told her that by now.
She could just work on being the best human she can be.
No one would have criticised Dolly because she looked weird given past surgery etcetera.
that would be like being in a prison. that is the problem with the money. their lack can definitely make your life miserable, but once you pass some threshold on the way to wealth, you will find out that lying by the side of the pool whole day can only make you happy for so long. so they try to find that something that will make them happy, as everyone. unfortunately for them, they don't really get much relevant feedback, because they are only surrounded by boot lickers.
Silence. Absolute silence. Is how you deal with that. On multiple levels. If she'd stay perfectly silent, we'd all have a much better time.
She has enough money to create a random PR distraction too
Then it shouldn't have gone on national television advocating giving up our rights for privacy and installing Dump's surveillance app.
What did it think was going to happen? Looken like a Martian from Mar Attacks.
She stands like she's posing for a fashion photoshoot, but looks around the room like she's an owl that hears the heartbeat of a wee mouse beneath the floorboards.
It was creepy af. At one point it looked like she was standing at a 45 degree angle. I never could find that part of the video. The whole group in the Oval Office looked interpersonally disjointed
Coming into this thread knowing nothing; leaving knowing too much
Ooh! Ooh! I can explain!
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
I don't want to see this horror movie villain any more.
No seriously.. I'm not American and she's so fucking weird looking.
Please America.. Please please just go fucking vote.. Don't listen to right or left wing media... just go fucking vote. I need your news to go back to being "aaaahhh the president wore a weird shirt".
I'm 100% all in on China taking over
The voting doesn't make policy. "Donations" makes policy.
bOtH pArTiEs change their own platforms to accommodate their financiers. They don't actually have any real standards. Ds aren't actually "pro labor". Rs aren't actually "state's rights".
That's all lip service, and ignored immediately when inconvenient.
Don't listen to what they say, that's how they trick you, lying is "easy mode".
Watch what they do.
Those "weird shirt" glory days are dead, let it go. It's going to get a lot worse.
(ETA I'm voting, please vote. Because it's funny)
Voting won't do shit. Americans have already lost. Facism is there to stay regardless of the "election" results. Please fucking wake up dude.
Show us on the doll where the voting touched you
The doll is covered in blood with a blown off Palenstinian child's middle finger pointing at you. I think the message is get bent?
Damn hope you don't cut yourself on that edge
Clearly you didn't get the message.
Well, the message is vote. Otherwise you're just being an idiot.
Never said not to vote, but we are definitely living in a fascist dystopia. Vote for the lesser of evils, but make no mistake you are still voting for evil.
Some people acting like idiots seem to think saying the quiet part out loud is wrong.
Pretty much. The US has been full on fascist since the term was invented. People are acting all surprised meanwhile the US has been bombing brown people and abusing the fuck out of its own citizens the whole time.
All these memes and not a single one of them a call back to the "Dude, you're getting a Dell?!" commercials. smdh
She's leaning back in her own avatar photo.
I hope she posts more images she wants removed.
Who, or what, is a “Susan Dell?”
Similar to "Dude you're getting a Dell" except it's nightmare fuel.
Dell's founder's wife
There are things that should not be walking the streets in broad daylight. New York is not your city, Batman!
I would post the Liz/Jack Batman/Joker scene from 30 rock right now but I can't find a good clip.
He helped Spider-man with an infestation of clowns, lay off.
Look around you. Does it look like the clown problem is solved?
Oh easy answer: freedom, bitch. Get on board or get out of our country
Wait, this was real? She actually said this?
Archives were shut down, so it's hard to tell anymore. She currently has no posts. I don't think it's real, but the OP did a great job of making it sound like it.
When are people going to learn these billionaire narcissists don't care what we say about them, just that we talk about them.
This post and everything about her, is what she wants you to do.
I'm understanding when maga falls for this shit, but it's so fucking depressing to see people on the left incapable of seeing they're being manipulated
If you know they're narcissists, then you should also know that narcissists are among the most insecure human beings on this planet, if not the most. They definitely don't like being made fun of, even if they mask it well.
https://www.nyu.edu/about/news-publications/news/2021/march/narcissism-driven-by-insecurity--not-grandiose-sense-of-self--ne.html
Well, let's ignore your rude reply then
I think turning a blind eye to what the pedo party is doing would be a big mistake.
Riiiiiiiight, that's why they continue to scrub her wikipedia.
I don't care who you are, if an entire country is making fun of the way you look, that stings.
She wouldn't have gotten the surgeries if she wasn't insecure about her appearance. She apparently just cheaped out with some back alley slasher.
Dr Vitamix at your service!
Nah she cares deeply about being attractive. It’s her weakness and she deserves this.
Yeah, these motherfuckers are like flesh and blood versions of Freddy Kruger. They lose their power when we collectively turn our backs on them.
These are people who stole children and took them to a far away place to fuck them to death in secret. If you don't watch them like hawks out of some misplaced sense of sticking it to their ego, you're guilty of negligence.
Isn't this a fake tweet? I can't find any instance of it being real and it seems too on the nose. Everyone here in the comments talking about the Streisand Effect, but that doesn't apply if she didn't say anything and people are just making shit up on the internet. But I guess that's Lemmy these days, no one gives a fuck if something is real or not.
I just assume anything political in the memes or shitpost comms is fake. If it's real it'll eventually pop up in a different place.
Assume it's fake, but chuckle anyway because it's funny.
I personally upvoted because it was a funny cosplay, but I admit I didn't fact-check the tweet and downvote if it was ... misrepresentative of the facts.
Unfortunately most people cheer for Bad Talk About Hated People without a care in the world to its veracity, and when you step in to question the hive, you tend to get stung.
#JDVanceDidntFuckACouchButHeIsACoward
Fascist adjacent bridge troll mad?
Maybe you shouldn't have buddied up with fascists or had your face re-arranged by a blender.
You can't turn her into a running joke. She already is one.
I'm not doing anything. She's literally the OOP.
Like a skeksis in white face.
Freedom of speech but not at my expense uh? Boo-fuckin-hoo
The Streisand Effect is dead. JK Rowling, with the help of Elon Musk, killed it.
Imagine if Nietzsche said that lmao
ZILtoid1991's law: "If you put too much faith into internet laws, they suddenly stop working."
When you look like a sleep paralysis demon these things happen. You should be used to that by now.
It just started
Karen the cryptkeeper demands to speak to the manager.
I dunno, I mean why are you hanging out with batman if you don't want your picture taken?
If you can't take it don't dish it bibs!
"Being allowed in New York". If you lock the cosplayers up, we are going to have to lock up all the rednecks with the "Biden tied up on my trunk" vinyls on their truck bed.
Dear Mrs. Dell;
Ma'am... for someone with access to THAT much money to have chosen the shittiest plastic surgeon ever does somewhat open the door to ridicule, although you have to admit we're not doing it with AI. Face it... like the D.C. "pool guy" - ya fucked up. Maybe find one who knows what he's doing this time and quit shopping the republican nightmare face "doctors". Like Phil. Or Oz. get a real fucking surgeon and spend a lot of money.
And in closing, I say this as an ardent admirer of earlier "you" - politics and religion aside - cuz you were a cutie. Remember when we were building the mountain top pool and most of us were in the hole and you came over to the edge of the pool hole and talked to the boss in a miniskirt (or similar) with no panties? Walked up to the edge of the hole and were talking with the boss (and us). What has since become known as an "upskirt", although we had no intentional part in that. We were ALL watching a miracle - nice! I thought "damn! wife's a babe, excellent computers, a pool build by us... Michael is doing okay!"
Funny - It almost gave the old man a heart attack. He started stuttering. You had him speechless! But what a babe! Yowza!
anyway - they did you wrong. Get with Cruise, Pitt, Jolie, Anniston... they'll steer you in the right direction. Don't talk politics though - they'll kick you out.
Ciao mon bella, and get that kisser fixed for real.
It’s not a real tweet my dude. She never said this.
My "open letter", however, is real.
That motherfucker is not real!
This has to be fake. She would know that she isn't actually in New York.
I think she's complaining about people dressing up to mock her.
"THE TOLERANT LEFT!"
Oh lol, I thought the picture was ai or photoshopped or something. I didn't look close enough..
Still funny that she is trying to sic the mayor on a random impersonator.
Susan, you have made my jaded heart feel pity, you're so hideous that I feel guilty for laughing at your expense.
Comedy is a harsh mistress; as we laugh at others, we all do it with some underlying terror, knowing that her baleful eye could always turn upon us. She giveth, and she taketh away.
Is this actually real? There don't seem to be any posts on her Twitter. Maybe she took them all down however
Susan Dell could be Two-Face in that photo, with all her plastic surgery.
Unpopular opnion here: I think there is plenty to criticise Susan Dell for but to reducer her to some weird body shaming is pretty ... retro. Like in the good old days.
I would argue that there is literally nothing to criticize her for besides her looks.
Also the purpose of this post is not to make fun of her looks. Its to make fun of her perpetuating the problem by posting about it herself.
That sounds a lot like "she shouldn't have dressed like that". I don't follow her social media habits, does she post posing images highlighting her looks or is she simply somewhere doing something? What I have seen was here being somewhere doing something.
People are ripping on her plastic surgery not her outfit. You are as uniformed as you are self righteous my dude.
edit: NO I get that your trying to conflate this with victim blaming. You're wrong and you're clearly not going to realize that.
I think you are not getting my point if you think I was talking about her outfit.
We are still allowed to. Freedom of speech and all that. Also fuck that bitch is ugly as fuck.
Thanks for confirming my point. Yes, body shaming is legal, nobody is stopping you.
You are conflating here. Body shaming is when you make fun of attributes people are born with or cannot change.
Go post on a botched surgeries community Don Quixote.
If it makes you feel better, you can make fun of the looks of a woman in her 60s with botched plastic surgery. Or you can talk about her questionable actions instead. I prefer doing the latter but to each their own.
Her botched surgeries are part of her questionable actions. She wears the skin to play the part.
In other words, if she wasnt such a ghoul (on the inside) she wouldn’t have felt the need to pursue a look so hard that she overshot the uncanny valley.
But not only did she do that, but she did it in pursuit of further enriching herself as an oligarch, to promote Trump Accounts to children.
To be clear, they’re making money off those things somehow. When the economy they made unstable finally crashes, they’re goin to walk away with billions, partially from those, and those kids will be left with nothing, same as it always was.
She got up there in that dress, with that eyeliner, and those eyebrows from the my dog has eyebrows meme and stood next to convicted rapist, pedophile kingpin, war criminal Donald Trump and proclaimed loudly and proudly that she was glad to be teamed up.
You are in fact doing neither. You're here wagging you finger at internet strangers and acting self righteous about a hypothetical situation you've made up in your head.
Judging from your comment history you have nothing positive to contribute to my lemmy experience. bubye
Probably going to be massively down voted. Have at it.
This comment section is fucked up. Yes she's on the wrong side of the table and may even be a terrible person.
But this is attacking a woman based on her appearance. Have we really learnt nothing as a society?
It's different and here's why. She didn't look like that naturally. This is her engaging in cosmetic surgery to alter her appearance into ... something... that is currently in vogue with a certain demographic of white house boot licking sycophants. It's called Mar-a-lago face, and it's done purposefully to ingratiate oneself to a certain fascist, racist, 34-count felon pedophile rapist. And if you were to drastically alter yourself to appease someone like that, well, you deserve to be mocked.
Look, you can check my post history. I fucking hate the pedo billionaire class, but this is still not ok.
We all choose our appearance to some extent.
She's chosen to alter her appearance to fit in with her chosen group, and instead of attacking her for the (admittedly despicable) views of that group, you're choosing the easier thing to pick apart. An appearance that you don't like because it's associated with that group. At the very least, it's lazy. It's stooping to their level. It's not ok.
This is like when Tim Walz was running for VP and called republicans "weird." And we all got it, and understood it, and it was a popular bit of messaging that resonated with people. Because, let's face it, they're fucking weird.
But then the democrats were like "oh no! but you might offend someone!" so they stopped the popular messaging that resonated with voters and didn't use it again right before failing.
Look, making fun of someone for their appearance isn't the classiest thing to do, but when you're talking about a group that's literally worshiping at the feet of a golden altar of protecting pedophiles, you take the shots you can. And whatever hurts their feelings the most, well, I'm ok with it. We don't always have to take the high ground. Sometimes you gotta hit'em where it hurts.
No. This makes you no better than a MAGAt attacking AOC for her appearance because you're too dim witted to make a good argument against her politics. It brings you down to the level of someone harrasing a transgender person because they don't "pass"
This is not the way.
ETA: Also Tim Walz wasn't attacking a single individual woman based solely on her appearance. He was attacking republican politics. HE was doing it right. This is NOT that.
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Fixed
I mean, you're right. I should be above it. But I'm not. Fuck that ghoul of a woman. Elitist rich bitch got her face all fucked up so she could fit in with a big group of pedophile protectors. Fuck her and her weird ass face. Hope every time she looks in the mirror she's haunted by the ghosts of pedophiles past, present, and future.
And again, I know I should be better than this. But I'm not. Fuck her.
Her weakness is out here for all of us to see and you’re like “no don’t attack that!”. She doesn’t give a fuck about how despicable her views are. She gives a fuck about her appearance. She’s an ugly cut up disgusting looking cunt and she deserves to know we feel that way about her.
You could be a MAGAt talking about AOC here, and it would not be out of place. I have no respect for them, and I have no respect for you. Be better.
Oh no I don’t give a fuck.
I can't believe I had to scroll so far for some sanity.
It's disturbing to me how comfortable so many people are with hate and bullying as long as it's directed at the people they don't like.
Not to mention this is just another meaningless distraction away from whatever these ghouls are up to this news cycle.
Oh no the poor ugly cunt is a victim now? ;;;;;;;;
Unironically: yes
But more importantly, the people making fun of her for her looks are shitty. They're reinforcing the unhealthy standards the media has of what women are supposed to look like, and they are portraying opposition to Trump and his allies as being mean-spirited bullies and sore losers of some silly popularity contest rather than proponents of actual causes. It encourages all of the harassment that right-wingers make against progressive women.
Why do you care if you are down voted by people who are so obviously the bad guys? This woman did a fantastic thing. She doesn't decide who is the president.
WTF are you even talking about? She's a vile person with vile beliefs. She does not deserve to be attacked for her appearance. These beliefs are not mutually exclusive.
Vile? How so? Anyone who gives away as much money as she did should be praised.