That deal was all about lifting sanctions on Russia and trying to open back usual trade relations with them.
The amount of diesel agreed is laughable, I think it is few hours of US consumption. It won't change prices at all. I think there might have been a private deal that benefits trump directly.
I'd actually put good money on this not happening. Russia isn't really geared up to deliver oil like that they're all about the pipelines.
Also whatever tankers they do send will have to get past if fleet of pissed off European fleets.
Remember countries like Estonia went through some relatively severe economic hardship in order to sanction Russia, and then the United States comes along and does a deal with Russia to save themselves from a war that they started. Perhaps maintaining good relations with the United States is no longer worth it? I could totally see an oil tanker getting bordered.
I have a recent newborn and I keep thinking that when he's like 15 or so and starting to learn about world politics he's not going to believe me that the United States was want to major world player. He is going to think I am lying to him. It would be like your parents trying to tell you that Africa was once a United country and had the largest military on the planet. Looking at it now it wouldn't be believable.
They're here. Not in the numbers reddit used to have, but they're here. Occasionally we get a good one too. If you find yourself being argued with unreasonably, there's a good chance that's a russian troll. They have a scent.
I immediately went to check that “SaltyAmerican” guy that often gets in my “All” feed and latest post was week ago. 🗿
Nothing gives away a Russian troll posing as an American person like trying really hard to emphasize their “Americanness” - with those “as an American”/“we Americans”.
They had a lot of posts on “Late Stage Capitalism” community, and I suspect that community as a whole may probably be run by Russian trolls. Simply because of a contrast with other lefty communities - like you can have civil conversations in most places, and in there it’s just a perpetual hate boner machine, that just wants to get you upset and angry.
They definitely have a playbook for infiltrating communities and taking them over. There's a lot of subreddits on Reddit that are worker aligned but have questionable viewpoints.
I have written comments about this before, but the very simplified guide on, how to spot the russian and chinese propagandists on lemmy, is:
Defending russian invasion in Ukraine, defending genocide of the chinese minorities, claiming Tianamen square massacre and the treatment of uighyr people are a hoax, being racist towards tibetans, doing the "I do not support [them], but..."
Equating the USA = NATO, claiming everything any NATO country does is NATO as a whole doing it, blaming NATO for trying to attack Russia, saying NATO is trying to expand when border countries are joining voluntarily, blaming small border countries for aggression towards Russia
Talking about "the West", starting to speak about colonization times in unrelated discussions, trying to dismiss you by blaming you or you country for European colonization
Trying to downplay and derail discussion on what Russia/China does, because the USA/"the West"/someone else has done bad things as well
Writing longer and longer responses with multiple claims, often so you have to look into their sources/find reliable sources on the things by yourself, so you can argue against, in attempt to tire out out by making you answer each claim individually
Using chinese state sponsored sources, supporting pro-russian/chinese politicians
Blaming you for supporting genocide in Gaza, when you talk about some other genocide being bad, especially if it is related to Ukraine or China
Dissing capitalism and saying China and/or Russia are true communists, marxists, etc., supporting the governments of China/Russia, either directly or hinting they are Better Options, arguing against calling China/Russia authoritarian regimes
You know, you found them, when your comments saying anything negative about Russia/China get downvoted, or someone starts arguing against you. Essentially there is no difference between the useful idiots and the bots and propagandists themselves. The people honestly identifying as tankies or defending tankies, are hanging in the metaphorical nazi bar without realizing it, and will not change their opinions, because they belive you are either bad, or brainwashed, so arguing does not get you anywhere.
The easiest way to deal with these, is to block the and move on. Arguing against will only give them more visibility, and make you tired and angry. If you feel pissed off, just explain these points as an answer, so others can consider with a different perspective, what they are reading, then block and move on.
Trying to downplay and derail discussion on what Russia/China does, because the USA/“the West”/someone else has done bad things as well
Blaming you for supporting genocide in Gaza
Nice try at derailing. I am against all genocide, everywhere. I do not defend nor deny European powers or the USA doing shit all around. I am talking against Russian and Chinese propaganda.
Ironically proving my point... lmao. Though I should have added, "calling Ukraine/you/your country nazis", and "trying to insult you/your country personally, being rude in attempt to get you enraged". There are probably a few more I forgot.
Real. I joined it cuz it said it was FOSS focused and run by the creators of Lemmy which I thought was neat. Did not realize it was a tankie cesspool. I’m now banned from a good portion of it for “Nazi apologia” because I said calling Ukraine Nazis was Russian propaganda
Just jump instances. I might have my reservations about how the aversion to monetization means a lot instances are unstable or slow with no real incentives or even funding to improve it but there's certainly something to be said for decentralization.
Some people reckon we’re a Nazi instance… shrug emoji.
I’m not sure why - but have read it a few times. If someone in the know could clue me in if there is actually some back lore to the claim I’d appreciate that.
America necessitates authoritarian strongmen, elected or not. We exploit and undermine liberal democracies when attempted in the developing world. All the while we directly arm over 80% of the world's dictatorships.
Russia doesn't do that. Russia doesn't have 861 foreign military bases.
America is not only the least democratic nation on Earth, we are the only empire on Earth.
You're calling me a tankie because I support democracy. You don't.
You may be new enough not to have encountered this yet but our instance has a well earned reputation of being Soviet boot lickers. Be careful on .ml meme subs and stuff, you’ll catch a permaban for saying anything pro Ukraine or in any way interpretable as anti Russia
Do we? You might be overestimating your impact as a person, or I maybe I only pay attention to the usernames of people who make a big positive difference on my flavor of the fediverse!
All the same, brand new accounts are fishy as fuck, especially with 0 posts. Try creating, not just critiquing!
You do realize that there are entire batallions of Nazis in Ukraine that kidnap civilians off the street and force them to die on the front line, right? Azov batallion?
I don't think I would take that picture. It's kinda weird that you can just pull that up from your gallery, as if it's a side note. Do you often take candid shots of people having a rough time? Idk, that's weird to me
Did you ask that person for consent for a picture? Or is someone experiencing the lowest state of their life journey just free game for public exhibition?
Did you speak with them, drop them a slice of pizza, a water, or a sandwich? Or just take a picture like they're a zoo animal to show people to win internet arguments?
Literally yes. I live within a few blocks of a shelter, and know the community decently well, as they're part of my neighborhood.
I notice you declined to mention if you got that person a water, or some food, or just took a picture for your internet high horse.
Fuck off with you accusing me of virtue signaling while you use the unhoused as a fucking photoshoot for agitprop. You're a misery tourist, and I will judge you for that.
Thank you for the Palantir defense, very cool! You could interact with them like a human, and provide help instead of calling the cops to take them away because they're sleeping in a place inconvenient when you walk by.
Note added, misery tourist. The world becomes a better place through action, not whining online while acting like the paparazzi for people in a bad place in life.
Edit: you can't even remember whom you're replying to with your slop. May as well delete this account, make another, and try harder. Lame as fuck flamer
yes California has problems and suffering but honestly calling the USA a shithole country just outs you as a sheltered child who hasn't really been anywhere. One day, go to a real shithole, maybe try living there for a year and then you'll fucking beg to be homeless in San Diego or whatever.
For anyone passing by these comments, this user is the definition of some bot farm shit. The only goal is to make rifts among people, because a people divided is easier to control. Call the slop out
We know Gavin is a cunt. We also know he's less of a cunt than whoever the GOP is going to nominate. In a #1 Cunt War, JD vs Gavin is hardly a contest. Don't nominate him and we won't have to have this discussion in 2028.
If you nominate Gavin, you will lose again. How many neoliberal corporate ghouls do you need to see lose to a demented rapist pedophile before you try a winning course of action?
Yeah they 100% are. The China Show (ADV) on YouTube covers Chinese news every week, 99% of it never reaches Western news. Anyways they have footage of the CCP forcing prisoners on computers being forced to troll an shill CCP propaganda like 18 hours every day off the week.
It's utterly crazy the money their propaganda machine pays to make people think it isn't an absolute shit hole.
I am in China right now picking up some stuff before I head back to vietnam, it has way better infrastructure than any other country I've been to, last week I took a highspeed train 200 miles for ~16USD.
Yes, that's the point. There's no money available to be invested into the well-being of the state because they're not currently investing money into the slave labor.
In the US, there is money, it just goes to private prisons.
You type "i dont think its ok to torture people" as a response to a news article about people being tortured, and somebody pops up with a history lesson about what your country did before you were born so maybe you should firebomb your own capital city instead of saying that other countries shouldn't commit attrocities etc etc etc its 99% of the time somebody from .ml
And it doesn't make any sense to begin with what they're saying. They'll contradict themselves constantly, had one say the USA is authoritarian then in the next post say such a thing doesn't exist.
America is arming over 80% of all dictatorship globally, not China, not Russia, not Iran, not North Korea, etc
If you see human rights and democracy as a universal principle, then this makes America the least democratic, most brutal regime in the world.
But you don't, these are just selective privileges you enjoy on the backs of the oppressed, a weaponized cudgel to steal natural resources from developing nations.
Even most other Americans realize this, but are helpless to stop it because this isn't a democracy, especially in terms of our foreign policy.
Your post is literally what yermaw is talking about.
Instead of flooding the comments with Russian propaganda, why don't you answer this question: Do you think Russia is doing a good thing or a bad thing in Ukraine?
And it's not like Russia and China haven't flooded the markets with their own weapons as well. Most of the middle east uses Soviet era weaponry and if they have them tanks. My understanding there's not as much armour in use in Africa but what do you see more of there, the AR or AK?
There's a reason Tony Gilroy made AK blasters in Andor. The AK is the weapon of liberation. M16/ARs are the weapons of the oppressors. The whole world knows this for a reason except you
Russia is very liberating the Sahel from centuries of colonialism.
When they start pulling shit like the CFA franc, then you can talk. Until then, please shut the fuck up.
At least we have elections. Ukrainians don't. All opposition parties have been banned. All opposition media has been seized by the government. Men have to dress as old ladies in public so they don't get kidnapped and pressganged ICE style.
Depends on what you call bots. Yandex is a Russian search service, so it needs to constantly crawl the web, just like Google or god forbid - DuckDuckGo. This traffic is 43% down, and not what Lemmy calls bots.
Yes. It's hard to prove because ruzi trolls are mostly real people with 24 phones proxied through real resisential/mobile ips. But, these ops still need datacenters to orchestrate everything etc. So the trolls are not destroyed just inconvenienced temporarily.
There will be very good research here in some time as it takes a lot of work to put this together as social networks do not have accessible research apis anymore. So to analyze content sentiment you need a lot of resources but there are other metrics like tracking resource utilization (like proxy pools) etc. With all that I think a good lab could produce good evidence if they wanted. The bigger problem is - why? We're already well aware of ruzi troll networks.
most likely resulting in slower internet services or complete disruption for the average Russian. Unfortunately, the ordinary Russian wouldn’t be able to use high-speed satellite internet as a backup, as Starlink does not work in Russia,
What the fuck is he talking about. Yandex is not an ISP, it doesnt provide any internet access services to anyone. Its first and foremost a search engine, like google (the crawlers are most likely responsible for most of outgoing traffic, tagged as bot or otherwise), with crapload of affiliated services, like google, including their own payment system, like google, which is causing a lot of pain rn to those who chose to keep all of their savings in it, and their own cloud service, like google, which took down quite a lot of other sites with it, along with disruptions to TV's (yandex OS is running on nearly half of them, like android) as well as, unlike google, taxi and food delivery services that they have near-monopoly on, so those effectively halted in the entire country. But, again, unlike google, they dont offer FTTH, residential or commerical internet access, or anything even remotely like that. What in the fuck's sake satellite internet and starlink has to do with it, idk, thats just plain absolute worst journalism, just writing words without even a pinch of research.
And no, despite of how funny it would've been, there isnt actually any report of reduced troll activity ofher than some weird chart some german politician pulled out of their ass without referencing any source. You can even go to xitter, type "яндекс" into search and find loads of actual Russians mass ratioing those few that chose to defend yandex, as well as their reps themselves trying to calm everyone down. If anything, Russian activity on foreign resources only increased because domestic resources are down.
it doesnt provide any internet access services to anyone
They started an MVNO this year tho
https://yandex.ru/company/news/28-08-2026-01
And it has AI and number classification baked in? So while not being owned fully by yandex, mobile operator's features relies on data centers not burning.
That and Blackrock, who's quietly privatized all of Ukrainian public institutions. They are now feudal lords over Ukrainians who can't even vote, can't even leave.
They're so excited to go to the front line that gangs of large men need to restrain their flailing arms and legs as they're escorted into vans, families crying because they're so darn proud.
Idk why that wasn’t target number 1. They would’ve received a lot more global military support if they just blew up all those data centers before anything else.
Idk why anyone would be stanning for Russia of the modern day, theres no socialism or communism to be found there after the fall of the USSR.. (not that the USSR was the most progressive place to begin with but eh)
If .ml traffic drops, it's because a Russian data center was hit. If .ml traffic increases, it's because an election is coming up. When .ml users post on our own comms, it's because we're in an echo chamber and can't handle other perspectives. When we post on other instances, it's because we're brigading.
Anticommunism is a non-falsifiable orthodoxy that is capable of transforming any data point into hostile evidence.
They haven't even listed a single piece of evidence that .ml traffic has anything to do with the data center that got struck. Which BTW seems like something bots would do because they suck at reasoning.
If .ml traffic drops, it's because a Russian data center was hit. If .ml traffic increases, it's because an election is coming up. When .ml users post on our own comms, it's because we're in an echo chamber and can't handle other perspectives.
I like yandex too... anything that can work as a google alternative is ok on my book. At some point in time, image search was good and russian ads dont work on me cause i dont know russian, xaxaxaxa!
I was inferring that Russian bot farms and propaganda Mills like to sew discourse about socialism in America they don't necessarily agree or disagree with socialism they simply like to make people fight over it.
You made an assumption that was incorrect which is generally what assumptions are.
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Remember to donate to Ukraine so they can do it again!
Every coin helps!
Here's your Reichsmark.
is that bandera? the nazi collaborator?
Ding. Ding.
Alternatively, you could blockade the tanker about to offload 300,000 tons of Russian diesel in Wilmington NC
That deal was all about lifting sanctions on Russia and trying to open back usual trade relations with them.
The amount of diesel agreed is laughable, I think it is few hours of US consumption. It won't change prices at all. I think there might have been a private deal that benefits trump directly.
I'd actually put good money on this not happening. Russia isn't really geared up to deliver oil like that they're all about the pipelines.
Also whatever tankers they do send will have to get past if fleet of pissed off European fleets. Remember countries like Estonia went through some relatively severe economic hardship in order to sanction Russia, and then the United States comes along and does a deal with Russia to save themselves from a war that they started. Perhaps maintaining good relations with the United States is no longer worth it? I could totally see an oil tanker getting bordered.
It already happened. It docked last night, it is currently offloading the diesel in the Wilmington port
No it can't of that's got to be something else you couldn't even get a ship from Russia to the US in that time. Do you have a source for that claim?
Germany elected Nazis all because the center liberal parties pinned their policies to an unpopular war and sanctions that destroyed their economy.
The only people who have benefited since the 2014 coup have been American corporations and American billionaires.
Piracy is all they have now.
I'm praying USA picks a fight with Ukraine...it will lose so badly actually, that it will finally collapse.
EDIT: USA will lose, not Ukraine.
I have a recent newborn and I keep thinking that when he's like 15 or so and starting to learn about world politics he's not going to believe me that the United States was want to major world player. He is going to think I am lying to him. It would be like your parents trying to tell you that Africa was once a United country and had the largest military on the planet. Looking at it now it wouldn't be believable.
Do you mean for the US to invade Ukraine?
Oh yes please!
America is the only thing keeping Ukraine's junta afloat. 🙄
Yeah Yanukovych was the last legit leader until the CIA poisoned him with dioxin... No wait...
What the actual fuck are you talking about?
Yes, Yanukovych was the last democratically elected leader before the Odessa Oblast, the Donbass and Crimea democratically seceded.
That's what I'm talking about. Voting. Democracy.
Also call your rep and vote
My very blue reps support genocide. They're pro Israel and pro Ukraine. I'm starting to see a pattern.
Ok specifically you get a pass on calling your rep
At least your rep is right 50% of the time it seems.
They're not even right on 50% of domestic policy, but 100% aligned with fascist ethnostates proxies of Western imperialism.
Zelensky is a kapo stooge who will never outlive his usefulness to his Banderite handlers.
would loooove to see the admin stats for the lemmy verse
although having said that the lemmy verse is tiny
rare opportunity to refine blocklists
Russia is not using its own datacenters for fedi when they have unpaid western interns to do it for free.
They're here. Not in the numbers reddit used to have, but they're here. Occasionally we get a good one too. If you find yourself being argued with unreasonably, there's a good chance that's a russian troll. They have a scent.
I immediately went to check that “SaltyAmerican” guy that often gets in my “All” feed and latest post was week ago. 🗿
Nothing gives away a Russian troll posing as an American person like trying really hard to emphasize their “Americanness” - with those “as an American”/“we Americans”.
There's another obnoxious troll that's similar to yours that is so bad at it, I'm pretty sure he's an american.
Who's this guy? Sounds like a fun read
They had a lot of posts on “Late Stage Capitalism” community, and I suspect that community as a whole may probably be run by Russian trolls. Simply because of a contrast with other lefty communities - like you can have civil conversations in most places, and in there it’s just a perpetual hate boner machine, that just wants to get you upset and angry.
https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/22444072
Definitely not American if they use the west unironically
They've taken over the Late Stage Capitalism community and have started banning comments that say voting against the GOP is a good thing.
They definitely have a playbook for infiltrating communities and taking them over. There's a lot of subreddits on Reddit that are worker aligned but have questionable viewpoints.
like persimmons or bad bo?
Smug cloud
can you give an example?
These are old and some of them on just their techniques, but it's a good start.
https://sh.itjust.works/post/33277983
Hope that helps!
I have written comments about this before, but the very simplified guide on, how to spot the russian and chinese propagandists on lemmy, is:
You know, you found them, when your comments saying anything negative about Russia/China get downvoted, or someone starts arguing against you. Essentially there is no difference between the useful idiots and the bots and propagandists themselves. The people honestly identifying as tankies or defending tankies, are hanging in the metaphorical nazi bar without realizing it, and will not change their opinions, because they belive you are either bad, or brainwashed, so arguing does not get you anywhere.
The easiest way to deal with these, is to block the and move on. Arguing against will only give them more visibility, and make you tired and angry. If you feel pissed off, just explain these points as an answer, so others can consider with a different perspective, what they are reading, then block and move on.
Lmfao your list is just anyone who doesn't deepthroat western propaganda on every aspect of their "enemies"
Do you believe western news and governments that they are not in the middle of genocide in the middle east?
Nice try at derailing. I am against all genocide, everywhere. I do not defend nor deny European powers or the USA doing shit all around. I am talking against Russian and Chinese propaganda.
100% agree. If you're explaining, you're losing. Some of the replies to your list are hilarious.
Ironically proving my point... lmao. Though I should have added, "calling Ukraine/you/your country nazis", and "trying to insult you/your country personally, being rude in attempt to get you enraged". There are probably a few more I forgot.
My truck is to just never read replies ever.
Then I can never argue with a bot!
If I don't naturally come across the post again then I just forget it ever happened. Like old forums!
Can confirm- they stopped sending me checks a while ago
The real way to end wealth inequality: send cheques to everyone who thinks america deserves the slightest criticism.
i'm still getting them, putin even licks the stamps on the envelopes himself 💅
Putain would never lick a thing. He seals his envelopes by throwing them out a second story window
It wasn’t those kind of bots, more like the Google web crawlers.
Now do Israeli data centers.
Noo that's antiseptic! Are you from hummus???
Mmm hummus
Pretty sure these are all in the US though
It’s anti Zionist
ah a bit of the old collective punishment of all jews my little jew hating friend?
Shouldn't you be sucking Gavin Newsoms dick right now?
.ML users left in shambles.
You know, if they could still access lemmy in general.
Real. I joined it cuz it said it was FOSS focused and run by the creators of Lemmy which I thought was neat. Did not realize it was a tankie cesspool. I’m now banned from a good portion of it for “Nazi apologia” because I said calling Ukraine Nazis was Russian propaganda
Just jump instances. I might have my reservations about how the aversion to monetization means a lot instances are unstable or slow with no real incentives or even funding to improve it but there's certainly something to be said for decentralization.
I'm glad the instance I chose based on URL ended up being pretty good because sh.itjust.works.
I choose lemmy.world because it was top of the list and I had no idea of anything when I came over from Reddit back then
Some people reckon we’re a Nazi instance… shrug emoji.
I’m not sure why - but have read it a few times. If someone in the know could clue me in if there is actually some back lore to the claim I’d appreciate that.
First I've heard of it.
I’ve just read it in passing more than once… but some people like to throw buzz words around and generalise so that could be the case here.
I wouldn't think too much into this claim unless there is evidence
Just wondered why anybody would think such a thing…
Y'all have the best space industry community.
How do you change instances
It’s just Ukraine, no “the” in front.
Right thanks for the reminder
Sounds like something the Russia might say... 🧐
It has THE because it's a geographic area of historic Russia, translating to "THE borderland".
I'm older than "Ukraine".
Policing other people's language is very on point for Ukrainian nationalists. Banderites.
I ain't ever had no Chicken Kyiv, but I bet it tastes like shit.
You can use your normal .ml account, you don’t need to hide being a tankie.
Russia is an authoritarian imperialist state.
America necessitates authoritarian strongmen, elected or not. We exploit and undermine liberal democracies when attempted in the developing world. All the while we directly arm over 80% of the world's dictatorships.
Russia doesn't do that. Russia doesn't have 861 foreign military bases.
America is not only the least democratic nation on Earth, we are the only empire on Earth.
You're calling me a tankie because I support democracy. You don't.
I have a confession:
When I joined, I thought ML was for Machine Learning.
Same actually
I initially thought .ml was literally the TLD for the nation of Mali - so was super confused.
I mean, it is. But it's one of the TLDs that allows wider use.
Only a few national TLDs require being related to the country, or at least being located in the country.
I thought ML is just two letters from Lemmy and it sounds nice
When I first joined Lemmy 3.5 years ago I almost joined .ml because it was the dev's instance. I'm glad I chose .ee instead.
Thanks… unfortunately I’m well aware that’s a low bar lmao
You're welcome to join the toast gang. We don't have much, but we have an awesome logo and a cool name.
Why would anyone say that?
"When you sit with eleven Nazis, there are a dozen Nazis"
Who? Traffic seems fine to me.
You may be new enough not to have encountered this yet but our instance has a well earned reputation of being Soviet boot lickers. Be careful on .ml meme subs and stuff, you’ll catch a permaban for saying anything pro Ukraine or in any way interpretable as anti Russia
Oh...they know exactly what .ml is
Jesus do you have a goldfish brain? We interact all the time lol.
I got locked out of my OG account.
Do we? You might be overestimating your impact as a person, or I maybe I only pay attention to the usernames of people who make a big positive difference on my flavor of the fediverse!
All the same, brand new accounts are fishy as fuck, especially with 0 posts. Try creating, not just critiquing!
Lmao. Try not voting for genocide next time!
The BothSidesBad comments have dropped by 70%, even in the thread about how much of a cunt Gavin Newsom is.
Oh yeah?! Well, both sides of Gavin Newsom is a cunt.
Based. Organize for the primaries, please for the love of whichever gods
Needs work but I appreciate the sentiment. Is the Yandex data center back up?
i can't wait to not vote for gavin newsom
Yandex server back online confirmed.
i live in the us, cant wait for the midterms to be over so you guys go back into hibernation
See you around then
"You guys"? I'm not going anywhere...
You guys, as in the libs who only pay attention when it's time to vote for more genocide and illegal wars of aggression.
Found the transphobic class traitor
Both are guilty of genocide and your leaders deserve Nuremberg trials.
The global north has classically been taking direct advantage of the global south. All those leaders should be on put on trial.
Ye
Oh it's you. Bye.
You don't seem to share my distaste for genocide. What gives? Some people are worth sacrificing for your own comfort at home?
Grow up
Yeah that guy sucks LMAO
Grow up.
Both-sides including Nazis is bad. Right? Right? Right?
"When you sit with eleven Nazis, there are a dozen Nazis."
Posts picture of several Nazis. Implies entire country is full of Nazis.
You do understand that Putin is a violent, fascist imperialist, don't you?
You do realize that there are entire batallions of Nazis in Ukraine that kidnap civilians off the street and force them to die on the front line, right? Azov batallion?
You do realize that Russians are kidnapping Ukrainian children? That they are raping and murdering innocent civilians?
It is telling that posters like you condemn American and Ukrainian Nazis, but stay silent on Russian evils.
For the record, I think all Nazis/fascists/jmperialists should at least be in prison. And I mean ALL of them, not just from a specific country.
Tell me, how do personally view Putin?
My country isn't sending bombs to Russian Nazi leaders? That's why I'm critical of Ukraine? Are you 12?
Right? Every nation has a small minority of fascists. The fact that this small minority took power in a U.S backed coup is sorta the entire problem.
Is that why Ukrainians can't vote, can't even leave?
It couldn't be anything else. Right?
I don't think I would take that picture. It's kinda weird that you can just pull that up from your gallery, as if it's a side note. Do you often take candid shots of people having a rough time? Idk, that's weird to me
Did you ask that person for consent for a picture? Or is someone experiencing the lowest state of their life journey just free game for public exhibition?
Did you speak with them, drop them a slice of pizza, a water, or a sandwich? Or just take a picture like they're a zoo animal to show people to win internet arguments?
Oh fuck off.
What??? HAHAHAHA
A .ml suddenly becomes anti direct action once the topic is actual humans in my community?
Literally yes. I live within a few blocks of a shelter, and know the community decently well, as they're part of my neighborhood.
I notice you declined to mention if you got that person a water, or some food, or just took a picture for your internet high horse.
Fuck off with you accusing me of virtue signaling while you use the unhoused as a fucking photoshoot for agitprop. You're a misery tourist, and I will judge you for that.
Thank you for the Palantir defense, very cool! You could interact with them like a human, and provide help instead of calling the cops to take them away because they're sleeping in a place inconvenient when you walk by.
Note added, misery tourist. The world becomes a better place through action, not whining online while acting like the paparazzi for people in a bad place in life.
Oh, well hello "fellow American". Thank you for your dedication to taking pictures to show how you're "not a lib", but rather a truly elevated person
You're a 1 week old account
Lmfao, get fucked "fellow American"
Coward
Edit: you can't even remember whom you're replying to with your slop. May as well delete this account, make another, and try harder. Lame as fuck flamer
Lol, you're really bad at your job
yes California has problems and suffering but honestly calling the USA a shithole country just outs you as a sheltered child who hasn't really been anywhere. One day, go to a real shithole, maybe try living there for a year and then you'll fucking beg to be homeless in San Diego or whatever.
Я хуй знает кто такой этот ваш Гэвин, но по описанию он и правда похож на пизду.
For anyone passing by these comments, this user is the definition of some bot farm shit. The only goal is to make rifts among people, because a people divided is easier to control. Call the slop out
Lol, I think I broke the bot. It's replies aren't even pertinent to our conversation anymore
Oh shit the servers are back up!
We know Gavin is a cunt. We also know he's less of a cunt than whoever the GOP is going to nominate. In a #1 Cunt War, JD vs Gavin is hardly a contest. Don't nominate him and we won't have to have this discussion in 2028.
If you nominate Gavin, you will lose again. How many neoliberal corporate ghouls do you need to see lose to a demented rapist pedophile before you try a winning course of action?
If WHO nominates Gavin? WHO?!
THERE WILL BE A PRIMARY.
VOTE IN IT.
This sounds like a good time to hop over to .ml and see who the useful idiots are
You know some of their favs are missing.
Sorry, what is .ml?
Marxist Leninist instance. Some users just appear to be paid chinese propagandists.
Yeah they 100% are. The China Show (ADV) on YouTube covers Chinese news every week, 99% of it never reaches Western news. Anyways they have footage of the CCP forcing prisoners on computers being forced to troll an shill CCP propaganda like 18 hours every day off the week.
It's utterly crazy the money their propaganda machine pays to make people think it isn't an absolute shit hole.
Wonder what it would be like if they spent the same amount of effort and money making people think it's not a shithole by making it not a shithole?
I am in China right now picking up some stuff before I head back to vietnam, it has way better infrastructure than any other country I've been to, last week I took a highspeed train 200 miles for ~16USD.
Here's a dog on a scooter:
But slave labor is free.
My guy, America has the largest prison population in the world, more than big mean baddie China with X5 more people.
This is BECAUSE of legalized slavery under our Constitution's 13th Amendment.
Every accusation is a confession.
Yes, that's the point. There's no money available to be invested into the well-being of the state because they're not currently investing money into the slave labor.
In the US, there is money, it just goes to private prisons.
This is wild even for Falun Gong cultists.
How can the prisoners keep this up with so many missing organs?
Are the Chinese in the room with you now?
Which users?
The ones that aren‘t Russian bots, obviously.
Yeah, who?
Notoriously tankie lemmy instance.
You type "i dont think its ok to torture people" as a response to a news article about people being tortured, and somebody pops up with a history lesson about what your country did before you were born so maybe you should firebomb your own capital city instead of saying that other countries shouldn't commit attrocities etc etc etc its 99% of the time somebody from .ml
With a hundred liknks to random blogs that they pretend are reputable news sources.
And it doesn't make any sense to begin with what they're saying. They'll contradict themselves constantly, had one say the USA is authoritarian then in the next post say such a thing doesn't exist.
I don't know about the entire united states, but I'm pretty sure Toledo doesn't exist
America is arming over 80% of all dictatorship globally, not China, not Russia, not Iran, not North Korea, etc
If you see human rights and democracy as a universal principle, then this makes America the least democratic, most brutal regime in the world.
But you don't, these are just selective privileges you enjoy on the backs of the oppressed, a weaponized cudgel to steal natural resources from developing nations.
Even most other Americans realize this, but are helpless to stop it because this isn't a democracy, especially in terms of our foreign policy.
Your post is literally what yermaw is talking about.
Instead of flooding the comments with Russian propaganda, why don't you answer this question: Do you think Russia is doing a good thing or a bad thing in Ukraine?
And it's not like Russia and China haven't flooded the markets with their own weapons as well. Most of the middle east uses Soviet era weaponry and if they have them tanks. My understanding there's not as much armour in use in Africa but what do you see more of there, the AR or AK?
There's a reason Tony Gilroy made AK blasters in Andor. The AK is the weapon of liberation. M16/ARs are the weapons of the oppressors. The whole world knows this for a reason except you
Russia is very liberating the Sahel from centuries of colonialism.
When they start pulling shit like the CFA franc, then you can talk. Until then, please shut the fuck up.
Did you vote for a party that did a genocide?
You really can't just say that what Russia is doing is bad can you
An instance that should be ignored by any reasonable standard really.
It's Lemmy.ml, where the mods are tankies.
You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
Hexbear tho
You will never find two more wretched hives of scum and villainy
You know they're convincing people to vote for the party responsible for a genocide over at .World?
You know over on .ml we oppose genocide?
I think you might be mixed up, lmao.
Unless it's the genocide of Uyghurs, right?
No, we're against all genocide, lmao.
Then you are one of the few, fair enough. Had more than one tell me China was simply "educating" the Uyghurs, so it does seem prevalent on .ml.
Re-education technically is cultural genocide.
Tankies as far as the eye can see
Go to lemmy.ml and have a look for yourself.
Did you learn not to be so sure about bullshit internet propaganda?
-23% aggressive .ml tankies detected.
A bombing I can get behind. Also go URKRAIN!
Abligitory: release the y redacted Epstein files and hang all the traitors and pedos.
Is there a news story that prompted this or are we huffin copium
the strikes? yes
https://tech-insider.org/ukraine-strikes-yandex-third-data-center-4-days-2026/
the 41%? not sure
If Ukraine is smart they'll flatten as many Russian data centers as possible before the US midterm elections :D
At least we have elections. Ukrainians don't. All opposition parties have been banned. All opposition media has been seized by the government. Men have to dress as old ladies in public so they don't get kidnapped and pressganged ICE style.
Victory or death.
And why?
👀👇
Data centers are back up I see
is it true, though?
Depends on what you call bots. Yandex is a Russian search service, so it needs to constantly crawl the web, just like Google or god forbid - DuckDuckGo. This traffic is 43% down, and not what Lemmy calls bots.
I don't think DuckDuckGo does any crawling, it just searches Bing for you.
DuckDuckGo is just over 9000 Microsoft Edge running in background
Yes. It's hard to prove because ruzi trolls are mostly real people with 24 phones proxied through real resisential/mobile ips. But, these ops still need datacenters to orchestrate everything etc. So the trolls are not destroyed just inconvenienced temporarily.
There will be very good research here in some time as it takes a lot of work to put this together as social networks do not have accessible research apis anymore. So to analyze content sentiment you need a lot of resources but there are other metrics like tracking resource utilization (like proxy pools) etc. With all that I think a good lab could produce good evidence if they wanted. The bigger problem is - why? We're already well aware of ruzi troll networks.
but no one believed that it was russian bots all along back when they were wrecking havoc over every other election across Europe and US...
I actually use Yandex for torrents lol.
Edit: Yandex also has the best photo search of any search engine.
Not for long 🚀
It was better years ago.
Steal all you can
.ML traffic:
Oh my gods, why so cute?
?
That profile!
Ooh you mean my PFP? Thank you :3
"why are [OPs] gods so cute" i think is the question.
are they kittens? that might explain it.
Toms hardware with numbers: https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/data-centers/russian-disinformation-bot-traffic-nearly-eliminated-overnight-after-ukraine-drone-strikes-cripple-multiple-of-russias-google-data-centers-ukraine-intensifies-bombing-of-yandex-data-centers-in-response-to-moscows-strikes-on-kyiv-data-centers
Alright, this is getting unfunny now
What the fuck is he talking about. Yandex is not an ISP, it doesnt provide any internet access services to anyone. Its first and foremost a search engine, like google (the crawlers are most likely responsible for most of outgoing traffic, tagged as bot or otherwise), with crapload of affiliated services, like google, including their own payment system, like google, which is causing a lot of pain rn to those who chose to keep all of their savings in it, and their own cloud service, like google, which took down quite a lot of other sites with it, along with disruptions to TV's (yandex OS is running on nearly half of them, like android) as well as, unlike google, taxi and food delivery services that they have near-monopoly on, so those effectively halted in the entire country. But, again, unlike google, they dont offer FTTH, residential or commerical internet access, or anything even remotely like that. What in the fuck's sake satellite internet and starlink has to do with it, idk, thats just plain absolute worst journalism, just writing words without even a pinch of research.
And no, despite of how funny it would've been, there isnt actually any report of reduced troll activity ofher than some weird chart some german politician pulled out of their ass without referencing any source. You can even go to xitter, type "яндекс" into search and find loads of actual Russians mass ratioing those few that chose to defend yandex, as well as their reps themselves trying to calm everyone down. If anything, Russian activity on foreign resources only increased because domestic resources are down.
They started an MVNO this year tho https://yandex.ru/company/news/28-08-2026-01 And it has AI and number classification baked in? So while not being owned fully by yandex, mobile operator's features relies on data centers not burning.
Don't get in between a liberal and their bullshit feel good propaganda. You're likely to lose a finger!
Poor guy has to try and make up for the lost Russian bots :(
Oh what a handy button
Thank you for ridding me of you, lmao.
Very visible on 4chan. Anything that would have been pro-Putin is instead just a blacked/NTR thread from India.
Not exactly much of an improvement. But this is 4chan we're talking about
Now Palantir next please.
It's palantir who's winning
That and Blackrock, who's quietly privatized all of Ukrainian public institutions. They are now feudal lords over Ukrainians who can't even vote, can't even leave.
They're corporate serfs.
"our brave heroes" and a "shield of Europe" am I right
They're so excited to go to the front line that gangs of large men need to restrain their flailing arms and legs as they're escorted into vans, families crying because they're so darn proud.
https://busification.org/en
Arent they on Iran's shit list?
No wonder .ml got so quiet!
Nobody tell lemmy.ml
Nobody can reach them, the instance is pretty quiet with the Russiapologia today
i am unreachable
zelensky, please strike again. this one's still around
I live in the US, at this point its more likely to be ICE or homeland security than big Z.
Trump, this person is developing a nuclear bomb.
I'm asking in full honestly, do you seriously believe this or are you just being passive aggressive?
I'm convinced tankie has just become some sort of pickme tribalism for recently de-conservatived. The lemmy updoot seeking.
Decades of pro-capitalist and US exceptionalism propaganda is fighting a hard battle in the face of reality.
It's sort of annoying, but seems kind of harmless. It's like whataboutism knee-jerking because US political discourse is pretty juvenile.
Nobody could actually disagree with my perfectly formed opinions, they must be foreign robots.
-Godric, probably
Interestingly defensive, glad you got internet back up <3
The liberal brain and its capability to convince itself of any and all propaganda against their countries "enemies"
Suddenly the online opinion on the US midterms will shift. Curious
Oh yeah? Trumps historic unpopularity go back up or something?
who knew?)
Haha, won't get us all. BEEP-BOP MOTHERFUCKERS!
What did you say about my computer's mother?!
I said
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can you pick her out of her tinder profile pic?
Traffic where?
Cloudflare services, there was a post about how their data showed a large drop in bot traffic after a Yandex datacenter was hit.
Idk why that wasn’t target number 1. They would’ve received a lot more global military support if they just blew up all those data centers before anything else.
It were search engine indexing bots
Idk why anyone would be stanning for Russia of the modern day, theres no socialism or communism to be found there after the fall of the USSR.. (not that the USSR was the most progressive place to begin with but eh)
Did this actually have a measurable impact I wonder?
Next do USA.
Wow this thread is a toxic shithole.
It must be a light day on reddit...
Has anyone checked on yogthos??
Hmm: https://radar.cloudflare.com/bots/as13238?dateStart=2026-10-09&dateEnd=2026-10-11
Monkey Putin deserves a crown for solving the Russian bot problem
Someone check Lemmy.ml traffic
Someone make this joke for the 43rd time!
If .ml traffic drops, it's because a Russian data center was hit. If .ml traffic increases, it's because an election is coming up. When .ml users post on our own comms, it's because we're in an echo chamber and can't handle other perspectives. When we post on other instances, it's because we're brigading.
Anticommunism is a non-falsifiable orthodoxy that is capable of transforming any data point into hostile evidence.
They haven't even listed a single piece of evidence that .ml traffic has anything to do with the data center that got struck. Which BTW seems like something bots would do because they suck at reasoning.
Factual
Factual
It's very funny that this is about a cloudflare article/datum and you are taking it personally :)
There's plenty of people in the thread saying that.
Ukraine.... you want to win this thing?
I just wish the Indian bot traffic would die as well
Noooooo... I like Yandex.
poor you
It's what I use for piracy
poor you.
I like yandex too... anything that can work as a google alternative is ok on my book. At some point in time, image search was good and russian ads dont work on me cause i dont know russian, xaxaxaxa!
Damn, the red fascists came out in numbers and are backing each other up after this.
There has been a lot less posts about socialism that's for sure.
?
What does Russia have to do with socialism?
Centrists love to pretend that everyone to their left is Russian.
Negative.
Read the thread.
It's all variants on "durr hurr hurr .ml is a ghost town!"
I don't care what .ml is doing.
I'm not a centrist.
I was inferring that Russian bot farms and propaganda Mills like to sew discourse about socialism in America they don't necessarily agree or disagree with socialism they simply like to make people fight over it.
You made an assumption that was incorrect which is generally what assumptions are.
Very common to pretend that communism and socialism is the same thing.
Russia is neither.
Centrists don't care if the method they use to attempt to smear anyone to their left is grounded in reality.
They're like republicans in that respect. And most other respects.
I've always felt like Russian bot farms and propaganda Mills like to push discourse about socialism in the United States.
It's not that they're necessarily in support or against socialism they just like to have people arguing about it for whatever reason.
Qui Bono?
Yes?
Lmao!
На самом деле я говорю на трех разных языках. Только не этот. Я не должен знать, что это значит.
Ah, it's a popular Latin phrase used in English, it means, who benefits?
As in, where is the motive?