What's a food related action you'd consider wrong?
Example, putting ketchup on a perfectly cooked ribeye steak at a nice restaurant.
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There are none. With all the bullshit going on now, life is far too short to criticize anyone for their taste in food and food combinations.
Everyone- eat what makes you happy. Find the bliss in the small things. And ignore anyone that thinks you should be ashamed for the things that you enjoy.
If I listen to my french education, then basically everything except the traditional French way of doing things. Thankfully as a well travelled man I've learned that others do figure out some nice cooking here and there.
Waste.
The only wrong move is to waste it. Do what you want but use everything possible.
Mashed potatoes with ketchup in place of gravy 🤢
Laughing at any culture because of their food. It's bad manners. This pairing or method of cooking might be strange to you, but it is someone else's culture, and they enjoy it. The least you can do is approach their traditions with curiosity.
Cultural relativism is fine. Doesn't mean talking about things counter to your experience/preference isn't interesting.
Here's a weird one that I only learned recently, at 41 years old, and changed both my ability to consume seafood and my feelings toward food preparation in general....
Ever since I was in 4th grade, after getting very sick eating my first lobster in Nantucket, MA, I couldn't eat seafood. For a long time we thought it was a shellfish allergy, but over time I learned that a) I could eat shrimp tempura just fine, but not regular shrimp; b) lots of seafood made me sick, like sea bass, but anything fresh water was fine.
For decades, nobody I asked could figure out what the deal was; I eventually assumed that it was just something about things that grow up in the sea, and things like tempura could mask the problem flavor whatever
This year, I went to Japan with my family, and of course I'm not an asshole who would stop them from having the best sushi in the world. We booked a reservation at a sushi restaurant, assuming I could order something I liked, but discovered too late that it was "omakase", meaning a set course of the sushi chef's choice.
So, like always, hopeful that I might find something new I could eat, I decided I would give things the sniff test and if it smelled bad to me I'd pawn it off on my family. First dish lands, it smells great, so I eat it. it was delicious.
I asked the su-chef what it was, excited to find a new type of seafood I liked.
....It was sea bass. Something that definitely makes me sick. Next? Sea urchin. Then shrimp. And a whole bunch of other stuff I could never normally eat.
I was in shock. I asked if they knew why it could be but they didn't know. I talked about it with a bunch of people throughout the trip but nobody had any ideas, until the owner of the hot springs inn in Hakone said "oh, I know, my friend has the same problem when we travel to America for business".
He introduced me to the concept of Ikejime, a humane method for killing fish (and the shellfish and mollusk counterparts).
When big fisheries outside Japan kill their fish, they typically suffocate them in liquids with insufficient oxygen, then drain their blood later on. The stress of dying slowly releases hormones into their bloodstream, which soaks into their tissue after they're dead. THAT is what makes me sick, and the Japanese consider it "dirty". So Japanese fisheries use the process called Ikejime to swiftly kill the fish and quickly drain their blood.
This is also why seafood in Japan tastes so good to everyone compared to elsewhere.
There are even some small fisheries on the US West Coast that practice ikejime. I've found several sushi restaurants near me with Japanese head chefs who source their fish/shellfish/mollusks from Japan or specifically fisheries in the US that practice ikejime.
Suddenly I have access to a whole new world of seafood that I never could have enjoyed before.
As a result, I've started thinking now about how the killing process of ALL animals can alter their biochemistry and change their taste and edibility.
So I generally now consider any killing of animals for food that isn't humane and "clean" to be objectively "wrong" even if I can still eat non-seafood like that.
Absolutely mind blowing food experience.
That is amazing. Thanks for sharing.
So you know, this applies to all meat, not just seafood. This is what kosher meat is. A happy animal makes for a happy meal. Drain the blood and kill it fast.
I couldn't eat sushi at all until I moved to a bigger city, which has a much larger asian population.
And I am extremely picky about chicken, and frankly cannot eat red meat.
You can taste the suffering.
Just FYI, kosher is just a way of slaughtering coming from the Bible, it's not particularly humane to the animal.
Um, Kobi beef.
FYI, the procedure in the Bible was basic instructions on how to make sure animals were killed, still delicious, and avoided as much pain as possible.
Whatever the reason, it is one of the more humane methods. It is specifically designed to cause a rapid drop in blood pressure that leads to rapid unconsciousness and death.
Whatever the motivation, other than using chemical sedation, it is one of the most humane ways to kill an animal.
I agree a quick death was the design intent, but as applied in modern kosher factories the letter of the law has been stretched to break the spirit. Things like hanging cows upside down so the guy with the killing knife could find their jugulars more quickly is not humane to the animals. And the non-kosher modern standard for cows of a bolt to the head is even faster than bleeding out a jugular. Still humane concerns over miss rates, but at least for cows I don't think kosher is any better.
(Side note that other required parts of kosher meat like salting to draw out blood and removing the ligament Jacob tore when wrestling with the angel have, as post-death activities, no relationship to humaneness of slaughter.)
Bro, this has nothing to do with modern Kosher laws: this has to do with basic biology.
Fucking hell, Christians think some dude was bouyant as fuck. That's not really the topic.
I grew up reform Jewish and knew about keeping kosher but never did myself, and never appreciated the actual taste difference in deli meats was due to the stress hormones.
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TIL something important. Im sensitive to all kinds of stuff, but now I'm going to pay closer attention to seafood.
Eating Surströmming with the skin on.
Like we get it you want to make a reaction video of yourself gagging; everyone has their kinks. Prepare it the correct way and it's not very different from anchovies and pretty good.
Back when I was in the Army, a friend of mine tricked his vegan GF into eating meat.
That is super fucked up. We don't need to agree on things. I thing vegans are cringe, personally. But I would fight tooth and nail to make a vegan get what they want.
Like come on.
You articulated some of what I was about to write up.
Do what you like to your own food but never, ever, ever intentionally mess with or disregard someone else’s food restrictions. Doesn’t matter if you disagree with them or think they’re “making it up.” At best it’s a violation of their agency, and at worst you could kill or seriously injure someone. Stuff like that is scary.
One of my friends tells a story when she was 8, and she was deathly allergic to nuts. She was at a friend's birthday party, and was given a cookie. She went to her mom to ask if it was okay, and her mom asked the mother of the birthday girl, "Does this have nuts in it? My daughter is deathly allergic to nuts." The woman said, "No." So she was allowed to eat the cookie. A few minutes later, her face started to swell, her throat started to close, and she started having a deadly reaction. The mother freaked out, and said to the other mom, "I thought you said there was no nuts in these?" "I mean, there are just one or two walnuts, but they are ground up so fine, she couldn't have tasted them." My friend had to go to the ER.
That "mother", and I use to term lightly here, is beyond stupid dangerous (the one that said there were no nuts in the cookie).
After saving my child, it would have been all I could do to not beat them to a bloody pulp.
Hope the mother who provided the cookie was the one to pay for the medical bill. Otherwise, that's a lawsuit waiting to happen.
Man america is fuckin weird
(but also remember the commenter might not be american)
I feel like a lot of people back then didn't understand what allergies were, thinking it was just an extreme form of not liking the taste.
This really is baseline respect.
I knew a woman who almost killed her son in law because she believed his shellfish allergy was "made up".
I remember a story on Reddit of a grandmother that killed her granddaughter because she wouldn't listen about an allergy.
I'd almost extend this to any kinds of trickery about what people are putting into their mouths. The consequences can be lethal at worst.
A bit unrelated but at a previous work place the guys there put viagra into another guy's food as a joke where as I would've considered that borderline assault.
That’s not borderline, if he had low blood pressure issues or already medicated for high blood pressure, it could have killed him.
That's clearly sexual assault using drugs!
I hope they broke up after that, that's fucked up
What do you find to be cringe about vegans?
The powdered chicken stock my dad used turned out to be vegan. It says "chicken style" on closer inspection.
So dried pepper, salt, and pepper? That's wild!
Wildly different kinds of pepper lol. Fun fact, chili peppers are actually named peppers because when they were named they were thought to be related to black pepper, but are actually not really related at all.
Hot honey on pizza, liquid candy bbq sauce, meat candy generally. Definitely most ketchups. I'm largely against added sugars in most foods that aren't desserts or otherwise typically include a savory/sweet component (citrus or teriyaki glazed poultry for ex, also Japanese curry is often made with a dollop of honey and I get it but not mine). People's 'chili' recipes with too much honey or brown sugar, it's chili, it's kinda supposed to be deeply savory/spicy? Not everything is or has to be a sweet treat, but it feels like nothing is sacred or safe from the candyfication effect that seems increasingly popular. I'd never say anything to anyone making or ordering their sugary product of choice but I do think about it a lot.
I understand your dislike of added sugar though I think it does add some complexity to certain foods. Just FYI, if you ever are in an area and see a food made 'Amish Style' it mostly means they added sugar and sometimes other seasonings.
Flour tortillas are a sin
Surprised I haven’t seen pineapple on pizza yet…
Waste.
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The only place ketchup belongs is in the trash
I hope you don't like japanese food.
Many of the western style dishes as well as some local ones, use ketchup.
Example: Okonomiyaki sauce
What?
Ketchup/catsup was a fish sauce developed in China. Westerners made the recipe with all sorts of things, like mushrooms.
We didn't start using tomatoes until like the 1800's when we figured out that a tomato isn't poisonous.
Go look at the wikipedia page for ketchup: the first picture is mushroom ketchup.
Why do you think your ketchup bottle specifies "tomato ketchup"?
I think you are thinking of salt, which we used for rotting meat, as salt is derived etymologically from Sol, the name of the sun and the bringer of all life.
Yes, there is salt in tomato ketchup. And then we add more on frenched fries.
But salt would cure meat, because it would destroy harmful bacteria. Ironic, because if you salt the earth, then nothing grows, even though it is named to be the essence of life.
However, you need salt to live: just not the level you get from Burger King fries with ketchup.
Putting any seasoning on a meal you are served without tasting it first.
If it is not to your liking, then add the ketchup, steak sauce, salt, whatever, but at least try it first. 1) Out of respect for those who prepared it. 2) You might find that you enjoy it as it is.
Now if you prepared it, by all means, do whatever you want to it.
I think it's fair if the food is prepared by someone whose cooking you know well. Like if my wife makes something, I will always have salt and some spices ready because I know it's not going to be seasoned well. And I feel just putting some salt on in that case is better than always going through the process of tasting and only then going to the spice rack or something.
Reminds me when I spent several hours cooking a cubano sandwich and my brother just added tonkatsu sauce to it before ever tasting it. I begged him to taste it first, I've nvr even seen him add tonkatsu sauce randomly like that, but nope
I can't find a link to verify this story, but I remember reading a story that an officer was given the opportunity to eat with Napoleon, and he seasoned his food before he took a bite, and it ruined his military career.
Napoleon decided that that person was not worthy of being entrusted with an army because he wouldn't even try what was presented in front of him before changing it.
Ok, to start I completely agree… but for devil’s advocate sake where is the dividing line?
Let’s say cheese pizza with red pepper flakes; you like your cheese pizza with a little bit of spice on it but otherwise don’t want any other toppings on there.
If you and a few friends are ordering cheese pizza together from a local place that you haven’t tried yet, would it still be wrong to add the pepper flakes before trying the plain cheese pizza first?
There is a bit of generalization here because I know there are millions of variations of cheese pizza and some wildly different takes around the world but for the most part the vast majority of cheese pizza, especially from a standard, local to you, take out/delivery spot, has a small standard deviation from the norm.
Or put another way, does someone have to try a french fry plain first before they dip it in ketchup if they know they like their french fries with ketchup?
Is this rule more specifically geared towards fine dining, less fast food/mass produced type of foods/eating establishments?
Sorry if my autism is showing here but I do like hearing other people’s take on the narrow grey area between black and white social situations/faux-pas’.
Good questions. In my opinion, I think if it is fast food or delivery, do whatever you wish. Similarly, if it is a food you've had at a place before and remember it needed more of XYZ spice/sauce, it is fair to add it prior to eating.
For new experiences, especially with company, at a nice restaurant, or at someone's home, definitely taste first.
But in the end, as a fellow poster stated, life is too short, enjoy whatever makes you happy.
I would add to it that this was also not fast food, like in Napoleon's time, each meal had to be cooked personally, so you may not know what the chef was doing, you don't know necessarily what to expect. So I think Napoleon's reasoning in that case was that you should try what the chef prepared for you to see if you like it as is before you start altering it.
After all, like food science was very much in its infancy at that time, so you can eat the exact same meal prepared by the exact same recipe by two different chefs and have two wildly different food experiences.
I had to train my wife out of immediately dumping random hot sauce on every meal.
Putting ice in your glass of wine. I will judge you very harshly.
Meanwhile Germany with Wein-Schorle :p
Ice cubes are not made with sparkling water.
We can arrange that.
And Italy with Prosecco-Aperol spritz.
Ketchup on the same plate as eggs.
Judging people for preparing their food how they like it.
Cultural relativism is fine. Doesn't mean talking about things counter to your experience/preference isn't interesting.
Insulting people for for putting ketchup on their steak and shit like that is not a meaningful discussion.
It's not insulting to talk about it.... How insecure does a person have to be to not be able to discuss food choices? I framed the question specifically to include you. There is not objective good/bad right/wrong. Nobody is being insulted because understanding the concept of subjectivity is expected amongst adults...
It depends entirely on the tone of the conversation. Saying shit like "pineapple on pizza is an abomination" or "ketchup is for babies" is insulting. Giving reasons for why you personally don't like something or how it could be better is fine but to tell others what to do with their own food, so long as they are not wasting it, is wrong.
Did I say any of that at any point? Seems like you're just making stuff up to be bothered by lmao. Further, if you're shaken to the core because you like ketchup and someone said its for babies... I mean....
No you didn't, I was clarifying what I meant by my original statement as it's definitely a thing that happens. Although not as much of it going on in this post as I would have expected to see which is nice.
| Further, if you’re shaken to the core because you like ketchup and someone said its for babies… I mean…
While that was just an example I made up I'd hardly need to be "shaken to the core" by something to think it's wrong. Seems you're the one projecting.
It's just incredibly annoying/cringy to see someone try to take a perceived moral high ground when it's completely unnecessary.
eating raw chicken? eating straight salt with a spoon?
but if you wanna put ketchup on a steak? Id hate that. however its someone elses food. I wouldnt yuck their yum
Ok but does anyone else eat the salt plain at the end of the pretzel bag???
Yes...
Ow, my kidneys.
Raw chicken is a delicacy in Japan
I've yet to have the balls/reckless-abandon-for-my-bowels to try it
I'd hardly call it a delicacy. I've had it a couple of times and hate the texture.
The term delicacy typically is to do with things like the rarity/speciality of the food and care/attention during preparation. It doesn't necessarily mean tastes amazing or anything like that
I'd guess a lot of people would feel similarly about many foods considered delicacies.
I get that. I've seen it at tons of places that wouldn't lead me to believe it has some special status. I've also never heard a japanese say it is a delicacy either.
I would trust the quality of Japanese chickens infinitely more than others'. They seem to take their food products pretty dang seriously, like their ridiculously perfect fruits.
TIL!!!
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In countries where meat can be treated with antibiotics, it's fine.
Edit Don't listen to me
It's still not fine lol. It carried an insane salmonella risk even in Japan. It's just one of those traditional dishes that get overlooked on safety in favor of tradition. Japan's health department strongly discourages it because of the extreme risk of salmonella.
I'll never understand the psychopaths who like glass on their pizza.
Maybe a little controversial but I do like a little bone in it
Drenching your food in spices or sauces before even tasting it. That simply is an insult to anyone cooking. Nothing wrong with it afterwards, everyones taste is different. Exception:when the cook themselves tell you they forgot to add salt.
I don’t forget to add salt, but I don’t like salt nearly as much as other people seem to, so when we have guests over for dinner, we warn them that the food is lightly salted and provide various condiments at the table to add salt.
I like both - sometimes nearly no salt is fine, on other days i like an extra pinch or two. really depends on both the dish and whatever floats my boat that day
Wasting it, if it can at all be avoided.
My grandmother was purported to have frequently said that this was the only true crime.
Of course, she lived through Jim Crow, WWII, and The Korean War, so she overlooked a few other massive crimes, but she was a young adult living in the dust bowl when the Great Depression hit, so I think it’s reasonable for that to have been pretty formative for her.
My parents grew up in the ruins of post WWII Germany, so that has certainly impacted their raising of me.
But even setting that aside, deliberately wasting food is a disrespect to all the life that needed to end for you to have it. Be it flora, fauna, or fungi.
@ExtraJudgement @idiomaddict I think technically mushrooms and fruit should not be a problem in that regard as both are used to spread seeds/spores, and being eaten is kind of their whole function.
On the other hand many of them need to be harvested, so wasting them is a thorough disrespect towards the labor needed to bring it to your table
I've come around on a lot of things, even if I don't like 'em, can wrap my mind around them, but sugar on grits is an abomination.
Other than that, I think the only right answer when someone makes you food is "thank you". If you try it and don't like it don't eat it, that's fine. Just acknowledge the effort the person made to feed you. "EEW" is never appropriate. Even if they give you sugared grits. "Thanks, I'll pass on those, I don't like sugar on grits but please, enjoy. When I cook I'll make them savory so you can try them that way."
I have an issue with anything that my brain says is supposed to be savory that has been loaded up with sugar and is now sweet.
Like I ate cornbread relatively often as a kid, but my mom always made it without any sugar, so I'm used to it. To me cornbread is a savory food, but apparently everybody else in the entire fucking United States of America put so much sugar in their cornbread that it's more like a corn muffin.
Sugar in grits? I'll take one bite, realize what it is, and not eat anymore.
I had a professor in undergrad who was from Arkansas. He told the story of how he moved north (to Missouri) and was shocked when he was served "cornbread" that he classified as "cake."
That was when I learned that the sweetness of cornbread is a regional difference. I spent most of my life in the Ohio River valley ("south" to northerners and "north" to southerners), so I like and recognize both types.
I dislike sweet cornbread too, will put a pinch or half spoonful of sugar, no more. More likely to put cheese or jalapenos or something like that.
Kettle corn popcorn is ok though. Not my favorite (nutritional yeast, chili powder, salt is my favorite) but the sweet and salty kettle corn is good.
That makes sense because it's kettle corn popcorn, so my brain doesn't go, "This is supposed to be savory!"
People like what they like.
Messing with other people's food, like someone putting ketchup on my ribeye, that would be a food crime.
Boiling broccoli.
It's just bad, and wrong. I know lots of people who don't like broccoli, and when I ask why it's usually because that's the only / main way they've had it. For me it's the opposite, I love broccoli, it's my favorite vegetable.
Acceptable methods of preparation, in descending order:
Note this only applies to fresh broccoli, the frozen stuff is unsalvageable.
Steamed broccoli solos
Only time it's appropriate to drop my broccoli in boiling water is when it's part of a dish like cavatelli and broccoli. Boil it, add it to a pain with oil and garlic, and then basically crush em up, add cavatelli, Parm, enjoy. Ground sausage optional as well.
Other than that, the best vegetables are given roasted or sauteed.
What are your thoughts on streaming and then using a sause (oyster or similar)?
We've always steamed it. I wouldn't call it good or bad by itself. I season it with garlic powder and soysauce. When I was a kid my parents just dumped butter on it. I haven't cared for the oven roasted ones I've tried. Charred broccoli tastes nasty to me.
Pressure cooked is ok. Put broccoli in steamer basket, over an inch of water. Low pressure, zero minutes, quick release. So as soon as it reaches pressure, vent it.
Rotisserie chicken, burgers and pizza have to be eaten with your bare hands. If you use cutlery you are wrong and weird.
Trying to eat Neapolitan pizza with your hands is asking to look like a toddler who has just had their first spag-bol, similarly for Chicago style and maybe Detroit too
Agree with you for NY style though
Just did that yesterday, skill issue. You fold it to make a little boat.
All pizza should be folded. If it can’t be folded, it’s not pizza.
By that logic, your mom is pizza
Not necessarily, the only stated restriction is that it must fold to be pizza, nothing about non-folding non-pizza.
lol, ya got me there
Dang, if the places serving thin pizza around here came out like that I might not despise it so much.
This is Michael's on Broadway in Chicago. Hit it up if you're ever here, some of the best thin crust in town.
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Eh, I'm gonna continue to do what the Italians do, it's their food
If it's sitting in front of me then it's my fucking food.
Same, then we don't have an issue!
I'm glad I could help
Heating day old pizza is to be done on low in a covered skillet - all other methods are objectively inferior.
Edit: Also putting a box of pizza in the fridge, without laying a piece of wax paper, cling wrap, or tin foil over the top of the pizza slices is wrong because it will desiccate without it.
Keep your pizza in an off oven overnight(so the dogs can't get it). Wake up and eat room temp pizza for breakfast. Be a champion.
Wouldn't that make it kinda soggy?
I put mine under the broiler till the toppings start to burn.
No, the step the poster forgot to mention is to add a bit of water to the skillet, that crisps up the crust. It works really well.
I do not do it that way anymore since I now have a steam oven. If I didn’t have that then I agree cast-iron skillet is the best way.
https://www.seriouseats.com/the-best-way-to-reheat-leftover-pizza-12060681
They got a different kind of water on your planet?
Nope, same water as you most likely.
Unless you live in a bubble of otherworldly physics and chemistry it should work for you too.
Bread goes stale because starches crystallize over time, by adding water to the surface and and then exposing it to low heat (300° or less) the starches breakdown and the bread softens. Water boils at 212°, a thin layer of water on the bottom of the skillet will create steam around the top of the pizza slices in a closed cast iron skillet and water absorbed into the crust will break down the starch crystals and then crisp up the bottom crust without burning it while also keeping the top of the pizza from scorching.
The water in the skillet ensures the temps on the bottom of the pizza never gets too high while it is evaporating since the water will maintain 212° at its highest temp until it is fully evaporated.
So as long as you figure out the proper temps/heat level on your stovetop and proper timing so you remove the slices from the skillet during the window of time that the water is fully evaporated but before it starts burning the bottom crust then you should have a perfectly reheated slice of old pizza with a crispy crust and rehydrated crust with gooey cheese on top.
https://www.bonappetit.com/test-kitchen/cooking-tips/article/how-to-revive-stale-bread
No it doesn't become soggy and the slightest, in fact the crust becomes even more crispy and delicious.
As the other person said, add enough drops of water to keep it from drying out.
Try it, you will find this could be a superior method! Personally I like to let it sit on very low for like 20 minutes, but everyone's different
Who's got that kinda time for reheated leftovers?
You lack the ability/organization to place an object on a stove and set a timer? Hmm.
You want brown ketchup with lobster?!
That eponymous scene from American pie
None. Everyone should eat food the way they want to enjoy it.
Cultural relativism is fine. Doesn't mean talking about things counter to your experience/preference isn't interesting.
Cucumber.
Found the cat.
Ketchup on scrambled eggs.
Yesssss
Eating raw cookie dough
Pouring out bacon grease or beef tallow
"Authentic" Mexican street tacos with flour tortillas
Beef curry
Sweet tea using any sweetener but cane sugar
What's wrong with beef curry?
No idea if you’re being sarcastic, but a lot of Indian people (in India, where curry was basically invented) revere cows
And millions of Indian non Hindus and people in neighbouring countries don't.
Curry is a global cuisine.
It may originate in India, but it has been incorporated into local cuisines all over the world. Most countries in Asia have their own versions of curry at this point. I'd argue that the UK does too, even if they call it "Indian". Even the concept of curry as a category of food is largely a British invention, and many of the things we've been calling curry for more than a hundred years have little relation to Indian food.
Also, India is a large and diverse country. Many Indians don't eat beef, but there are absolutely whole populations of Indians who eat beef curry regularly.
GP is allowed to think of it as a faux pas. Others can have a different culture as you kindly pointed out.
Perhaps a kinder wording would have been: not everyone considers beef curry as a food crime, since
Your comment is quite nicely worded otherwise :)
I don't see why people shouldn't do things that let them enjoy their food more. I'm not the one eating it, it doesn't matter whether I like it.
Cultural relativism is fine. Doesn't mean talking about things counter to your experience/preference isn't interesting.
I had a friend who put mustard on his fettucini Alfredo.
That upsets me in a way I can't fully describe
That doesn't sound too bad, I put some mustard in mac n cheese when I make it, nobody has ever complained, I think it's a common addition.
I put mustard in Shin Ramyun lol. Sounds weird, but it adds the perfect tang and creaminess😁
What?! How have I never tried this? I’m going to add mustard to my Mac and cheese next time.
Do you use Dijon, yellow, or what?
The fanciest Dijon ketchup!
Dijon or spicy, even the packet of mustard from the Chinese restaurant works. Have never tried yellow mustard in there, I don't buy it as it's more sour than I like for sandwiches.
You remind me I want to try fermenting some mustard seeds.
That Chinese mustard is soo good.
I don't know to me it's such a contrasting flavor. It completely overpowers the Alfredo Sauce.
But if he enjoyed it, that was on him. It's not like I had to eat it or anything.
Mustard is an emulsifier so it'll help keep the sauce from breaking. Though usually with Fettuccini Alfredo you only need to add a bit of the starchy water you cooked the pasta in and it'll turn out perfectly creamy.
This was like dollar store frozen Fettuccine Alfredo. Michelinas' brand.
We were poor as fuck and this was far from fancy
As someone who has been poor and very hungry, and who has known in my life many people who are also poor and hungry, this is one thing that totally drives me fucking crazy. Wasting or throwing away perfectly good food that could go to someone who needs it is something I find absolutely intolerable.
That’s all I can think of for now
As someone who grew up this way, I can directly correlate my now obesity with this habit. The best practice is to cook the right amount.
Agreed, don't force finish food. Don't be so lazy as to toss food away either. Leftovers exist.
Chicken on a pizza, but the sin there is cooking the chicken twice. Restaurants commonly bake already cooked chicken with the pie. Just make it separate, and add the chicken after the pie has been baked so it's not overcooked.
A lot of things are "cooked" twice, I don't think that's a sin.
I can't think of a meat on a pizza that isn't cooked beforehand, the sauce gets cooked before it goes on the pizza, too. Technically if the cheese was made with pasteurized milk, that milk was cooked twice, too
Do you consider the chocolate chips in cookies as cooked twice?
Most of the other things don't get overcooked as easily. It's just chicken. That's why I specifically called out chicken in the first sentence, implying that was the only topping whose sin is being cooked twice.
Yeah, I can agree to that. I've had both good & bad chicken pizzas, the good ones tend to use a marinade on the chicken once it's cooked before baking, probably to prevent the dryness from overcooking.
The problem is that chicken gets too dry when it’s cooked twice. Other common pizza meats (pepperoni, sausage etc) are mostly pork, which just gets crispy and awesome when it’s cooked twice.
I rarely see the words restaurant and ketchup in the same sentence.
If a nice restaurant brings ketchup with the steak I will think it is part of the recipe for some reason and I'll try some.
Tuna steaks, well done
Some of this is respect for the cost: you could have had canned tuna, but decided to spend a lot of money to turn a good fish into something like canned tuna
don't fuck the carbonara
The recipe calls for eggs and cheese, no "cream"!
Now that's all I want to do.
Its not like I don't like ketchup but there are few foods where something else would be better.
A huge chunk of the world loves their tea with milk but I just can't stand it. Hot leaf juice is perfect just the way it is... maybe add some honey but that's it!
Ketchup on pasta
I'd pretty much go as far as to claim that ketchup is only good with fries and even there it's still outmatched by mayo.
Mayo on fries would probably be mine. Thats straight gross.
Hah, you clearly did not study at uni. Nothing beats lazy student food pasta + ketchup.
Steak sauce is not allowed in my house, and hasn't been since I was young. Desecrating steak like that is sin
We throw steak sauce on baked potatoes sometimes.
Steak sauce is one of my favorite condiments for fries.
Steak sauce is okay on burgers.
Maybe one day I'll try that, but I can't imagine it beating 57 sauce
It’s really good for dipping fries and also can set off a meatloaf
Note that I only said "okay" 🤣
The same goes for ketchup in my house. My brother visited last year, bought a MASSIVE bottle of it, and left it when he went home. I put the nearly full bottle where it belonged: in the trash.
Steak sauce is for grilled cheese sandwiches.
Requesting for modifications to a menu item when you got a restaurant.
The chef works day in and out, and his one job is to make food fast and consistently; and of course taste great. But then a picky eater comes along and says 'can I get this without tomato?' or 'can I get a different type of bread?'
Restaurants are probably one of the most common establishments in the world, and you choose one that you could not find ANYTHING on the menu you liked? Ridiculous and and an insult to the chef. If you don't like their food, don't go there or suck it up. Like seriously, it is one of the most childish behaviors adults are socially accepted to do, because most people treat workers like their personal slaves when it comes to customer service.
I bet it would be a lot different if the chef was taking an order instead of having the middleman of the waiter, lot more respect would be given. Also, I never see anyone asking for these stupid requests when it comes to home meals/potlucks. Probably because you are too scared to hurt Joann's feelings, but no problem when it comes a nameless/faceless restaurant employee.
Allergies are an obvious valid exception.
If it's a fine dining establishment, I wouldn't dream of asking for modifications (outside of allergens or religious restrictions). The chef has carefully constructed a specific experience, and I'm going to that restaurant because that chef is good at their job.
If I'm getting a burger or a salad at a mid-level casual restaurant, I'm definitely asking to leave out the ingredients that I don't like.
If Joann is feeding me for free, again, I'm not making any special requests unless I have allergies or religious restrictions. If I know I don't like Joann's cooking, then I am "unfortunately otherwise engaged" when she invites me for lunch ... or I simply skip her contribution at the family potluck.
This is ridiculous, if I'm going to be paying like $30 for a burger the chef can suck it up and leave out the mushrooms. If you're swapping central ingredients or being super nitpicky that's one thing, but small modifications are fine exactly because there is a chef. It's not a frozen food factory.
Food at people's houses is different because it's a gift. If I had to give Joann a $20 for my meal I wouldn't be embarrassed to ask for a minor mod. Maybe a little but the dynamic is still different because it's not her job.
All fair points.
But I still don't get why anyone would order a mushroom burger with no mushrooms.
I know, an exaggeration of an example, but I can't personally think of a food order like this that would be acceptable. If you want a burger, and the only serve one burger, it ain't going to be a mushroom burger on the menu. Just order something else! Every menu has literal pages worth of dishes, but you can't find one that would satisfy you? I just find it weird that people care that much about having a 'perfect' experience.
Maybe its because when I go to a restaurant 90% of the time its because I just don't want to cook/clean, not because I want a specific type of food.
The place I usually go to on the weekends has a menu that is 2 pages. They have maybe 30 items on there including the appetizers. 1/3 of the items are fish, which I don't like. If I couldn't order burgers without the tomatoes and pickles I'd be fucked. I guess I can pick them off but why not just ask for them not to be included so they're not wasted? I can see your point if they're making things in big batches and can't reasonably leave an ingredient out but for shit like sandwiches/salads/pizza or whatever it's not a big deal to leave something off. It's certainly not an insult to the chef to not like an ingredient. Taste is completely subjective, if you're insulted by someone having different tastes than you that's a you problem.
Really? Tomato and pickles? That is what makes something inedible for you? I understand strong flavors like horseradish, but even tomato? Tomato doesn't have that much flavor, its there for the juiciness.
Why would you go this spot regularly if you literally know you don't like anything on the menu?
Yes, why would I lie? Pickles are gross to me by both flavor and texture. Tomatoes I can deal with if they're chopped up but whole slices I don't like. I can pick either thing off myself (although it still leaves a taint, I wouldn't consider either thing to be flavorless, maybe my taste buds are more sensitive than yours) but why not just ask them not to include it in the first place and not be wasteful?
I go where my friends go. Anywhere that serves burgers/sandwiches around here is more or less the same anyway so it'd be the same anywhere else.
There are a lot of mushroom or chicken dishes which will also have bacon or sausage. For people that don't or can't have red meat, they have to ask that that be kept out.
Sometimes it's the easiest way to get a particular toppings group. Like a "mushroom burger" comes with Swiss, bacon, sautéed onions, and some sauce, or you can build your own for 10% more than getting a pre-built mushroom burger, minus the mushrooms. Plus, when you and-then an order, there's a high chance they'll miss something.
I mean, my local place asks me every time if I want to add peanut butter to my burger. I'd also expect modification to be more and more frequent with the prevalence of touchescreens allowing customers to highly customize items. I don't see modifying as a big deal, within reason. Not just for burgers, obviously.
One of the engraved signs I plan to hang in my kitchen reads, "Judge not what isn't on thy lips."
The idea that personal taste in food can be wrong should stand next to homophobia in the pantheon of disgusting ideals.