ICE has been quietly firing some of the roughly 12,000 officers it hired during its 2025 rapid expansion, citing background red flags that former DHS officials say should have been caught before hiring and because of poor performance.
A whistleblower told the DHS Office of Inspector General in August 2025 that final job offers were being issued before fingerprint, identity, and credit checks were completed, and that some recruits began training or duty while investigations were still open
A few months ago, I asked Lemmy how much I could expect to make if I went through ICE training, and quit immediately before my first operational deployment. I'd bet I wasn't the only one to contemplate such a scam.
Probably paperwork issues that delay full depotions. I could see the courts full of wrongfully arrest lawsuits because there US citazen paperwork was available but not filed correctly. It comes with the arrest now ask questions later mentality.
The source has already been posted, but I remember a journalist reporting that she applied to ice and they hired her immediately without doing any background research and after she had responded saying she had recanted her application
::: spoiler spoiler/quote
Somehow, despite never submitting any of the paperwork they sent me—not the background check or identification info, not the domestic violence affidavit, none of it—ICE had apparently offered me a job.
According to the application portal, my pre-employment activities remained pending. And yet, it also showed that I had accepted a final job offer and that my onboarding status was “EOD”—Entered On Duty, the start of an enlistment period. I moused over the exclamation mark next to “Onboarding” and a helpful pop-up appeared. “Your EOD has occurred. Welcome to ICE!”
I clicked through to my application tracking page. They’d sent my final offer on Sept. 30, it said, and I had allegedly accepted. “Welcome to Ice. … Your duty location is New York, New York. Your EOD was on Tuesday, September 30th, 2025.”
By all appearances, I was a deportation officer. Without a single signature on agency paperwork, ICE had officially hired me.
Perhaps, if I’d accepted, they would have demanded my pre-employment paperwork, done a basic screening, realized their mistake, and fired me immediately. And yet, the pending and upcoming tasks list suggested a very different outcome. My physical fitness test had been initiated on Oct. 6, it said: three days in the future. My medical check had apparently been completed on Oct. 6.
:::
This is exactly to motivate those thugs so they do everything that trump stays in power after 2029.
Not only they might need to pay 50,000 that they probably already spent, but might be also told that they will go to jail for doing what they were told to keep that 50k.
I wouldn't be surprised that those fired ICE were fired, because they had issues with what they were told to do.
Eh, what you're implying is not how these things usually work. If the government side terminates your contract early, you keep the bonus. I've seen it in the military. People signed with bonuses that the government paid up front. Then while the member was in tech school his position got cut (Air National Guard), so they ended his contract but he kept the bonus because he wasn't the one that invalidated the contract. If it works the same and these ICE agents did get terminated by the next administration, they would still keep their bonus.
It's even funnier. The bonus was taxable, they paid not a little bit of it to tax right away. They don't get that refunded but they do still have to repay the 50K in full.
In other words, trying to be a racist pieces of shit professionally was very expensive. As it should be.
Anyone who knows anything connected to Trump it’s that he always looks to screw everyone over, especially those most loyal to him. He loved to prove people are suckers, like he gets off on this.
I hope this just increases the number of people that realize it, I don’t hope too hard, but I have hope…
Yep. His number one play is to promise things, usually payment, then never follow through. He should be an idiot who only got away with that once or twice. But apparently people are way too stupid to support that world. They'll fall for it endlessly.
And that's what taught him that as long as the money keeps moving, and the sums of moving money are big enough, the rewards always grossly outweigh the penalties. That fact has only grown more true and far-reaching, throughout his entire life.
Folks miss the whole point, getting up in arms primarily about the policies and their way-too-real play-acting toward such, failing to see that this entire administration is strictly a gigantic, nakedly transparent, global-scale grift.
It's vacuuming up WILD sums of money, moving them, knowing that any penalties can only come much later, AND must contend with the massively stacked deck that's built by moving those hideously big sums of money. There's a lot to say about the insane number of grift-streams they have openly established, way more than makes sense to do here, but fuuuuuuck holy fucking fuck.
::: spoiler spoiler
Don't get me wrong, on the idea of money being the bigger problem. The whole shebang is also rife with heinous malevolent creatures like Stephen Miller who care only about directed hate, not money. The grift is the bigger long-term "we're all more and more fucked, now...", but the actively constructed misery at present is itself beyond the fuckin pale and would need a thousand more words to address.
:::
No no, they were right to fire me. My testosterone levels were probably just not high enough. I'll try again next year! Maybe I can impress with my new golden sneakers and that gold watch ... 🤔
This move is right out of the Trump business playbook. He's been not paying workers and committing fraud against contractors his entire adult life. Avoiding the payout was the plan from day 1 when the bonus was offered--I'm betting Trump himself recommended this outcome.
Fuck ICE. I hope every agent experiences bankruptcy and hardship. They ruined their lives to serve a child-rapist.
The department has been firing people that they found out they didn't pass their background checks now after they didn't do them in the first place. My guess is probably things like having previous arrests/convictions, DV, different aliases.
But probably not things like being convicted for beastiality, those kids are alright according to Kash.
There's a sweet spot of UNHINGED RACIST PSYCHO WHO WILL FOLLOW ORDERS they're looking for. These were either UNHINGED RACIST PSYCHOPATHS WHO BLINDLY FOLLOW ORDERS or UNHINGED RACIST PSYCHOS WHO MAY QUESTION ORDERS.
As soon as we heard that the signing bonus was related to a probationary period, everyone who knows anything about how Trump does business said, "Nobody is getting that bonus."
It's extra shitty if they paid it out up front and now the employees have to pay it back, but none of this comes as a surprise.
It's only the case because Trump is using taxpayer money and not from his pocket. If he had to personally pay the signing bonus they wouldn't get one even if it was promised. If Elon wanted DOGE to actually do it's job they would impeach Trump.
As soon as we heard that the signing bonus was related to a probationary period, everyone who knows anything about how Trump does business said, “Nobody is getting that bonus.”
This is a single instance posted with little to no detail in a thread that loves to promote any kind of rumor of a reactionary experiencing hardship.
So, consider taking it with a boulder of salt.
No source. No supporting details. It's just Lefty Forward From Grandma as far as I'm concerned.
The bonuses are doled out over 5 years in $10,000 increments. Student loan forgiveness (who are we kidding... these guys didn't go to Yale) is similarly spread out. Both are at the discretion of supervisors.
To all ICE agents. He will be gone one day and you won't have Noem's skirts to hide behind. We are not going to forget and are going to demand Nuremburg style trials for you. Oh and that 50k signing bonus? Never going to see it
the cynic in me thinks it's more just that they have impossible quotas. since many of them are coming in with the idea that the country is bursting with illegals, they think they will reach those numbers easily but then find that no, actually like we've been telling you, they're mostly here legally. So they fail to make their numbers, are marked as poor performers and wash out. The smart ones would have put that signing bonus into a HYSA but I doubt their that clever.
Could be a neat way to wash away student loans. Use the 50K to pay off student debt, Fail on purpose, declare bankruptcy to dismiss the signing bonus debt.
Anyway, I don't think it has to do with their conduct or competency they got played using the old MLM scheme. can't deport illegals when all the illegals and even questionable have already been deported. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes as they like to say.
edit:
Don't get me wrong they're def pieces of shit, but a piece of shit with a major quota can be extra shitty because of stress. Like starving and beating a street dog. It's already prone to biting. you just made it snap faster.
Could be a neat way to wash away student loans. Use the 50K to pay off student debt, Fail on purpose, declare bankruptcy to dismiss the signing bonus debt.
That's fucking genius. No way they are thinking that deep.
Well, what I want to know is, were these people fired because they weren't brownshirt enough? Then it's just cleaning ranks for the most loyal and extreme hires to come in. This is what it seems to be, since the people being fired are due to failed "background checks" or "poor performance".
I wonder at what point those people finally turn on him. Usually, failure to pay a group results in mutiny of some kind.
Maybe they are so brainwashed that they believe whatever their superiors are saying to gaslight them about failing the probationary period.
Or maybe DHS was smart enough to hire a bunch of people who didn't meet the criteria just so they could "finalize the background check" and fire them right when it was convenient.
I would LOVE to see a study done on these people. What their criminal history is, how many have received complains against them of stalking and domestic abuse, history of killing/torturing small animals...
Not in my world, its been 18 months for the last 6 jobs over 30 years. Might be the vocation, I'm in aerospace.
But fuck me 5 years? That egregious in my opinion... 2 years tops, the rest is an open invitation for dickhead management to be assholes. Or an incentive to fire you at 4y 10m to get their interest gaining money back.
For the longer vesting periods, it's normally like a staggered thing. 4-6 years is common for 100% vestment. But after 1 year you're 20%, 2 years is 40%, and so on.
I've seen this with 401k, 403b, and stock options over my working 20 years. Similar with friends and family.
Wow learned something new today. In my industry its standard 18 months its all yours going forward.
Stock options have always been a joke though, we had "windows" we could exercise them. Well wouldn't you know it the stock would tank a few days before the window opened... EVERY. FUCKING. TIME.
Remember, my friends, this is still part of the scam. Now they will file lawsuits, paid for by you and I, the taxpayers, and they'll get partial bonuses paid out in the end.
It will probably be a class action lawsuit which famously really pays out the lawyers more than the actual plaintiffs. Just another way to grease the palms of the rich.
Exactly. This is one of those things that I do not understand how Trump has been getting away with for more than 50 years. He rarely, if ever, pays his workers. Yet he keeps finding new investors and workers all the time. Most people who are unable to pay a single payment have their credibility fucked for a long time. But it seems to do nothing to him.
Yea that's normally how it works, but the news was reporting the fine print of some who signed on not getting their bonuses until they've met a 3 year minimum or having to pay it back.
Like with anything Trump, the money was never real.
Right right, but this was advertising language. In reality it was a one-time performance bonus, but they called it a signing bonus to trick people into joining.
The problem ICE lawyers will have is that if they call it a signing bonus, maybe the fine print doesn't matter, because people reasonably believed that it was one... So my prediction is a class action lawsuit. Although that will be interesting because there are limits on what federal employees can sue for. We shall see.
Normally yes but I think they weren't actual signing bonuses. To be honest, I read somewhere that some were quitting because they were afraid they would never get the bonuses, but I neither remember the source, not its veracity. But a lot of times it's Lemmy.
Look, when I signed up to work for an agency that deports people to countries they've never been to, I was fine with it cause I was gonna get a lot of money. Now that I'm not getting that money, I obviously have to vote even harder for the assholes fucking me over because the brown people are the reason I didn't get paid, not the president who routinely doesn't pay people. This post was sponsored by the Heritage Foundation or some shit.
Hiring people who are specifically filtered for their penchant for committing violence and then screening them over en mass definitely seems like a smart long term plan that can in no way backfire on the individuals very publicly engaged in this practice...
They get what they deserve, in that case. They sold their fellow countrymen and their own souls out for money. I couldn't be bothered to muster even a scrap of sympathy for the black hearted thugs.
Anyone provide a good source for this? I've no sympathy for those who joined ICE, but I've no tolerance for a government sponsored bait and switch either.
Actually it isn't because then I'd have to type the noai full address to get to the page and then type in the search instead of just typing it in the address bar of a tab...
Like, I get what you're doing, but it would have literally taken over twice as long. Granted that's just a couple seconds.
Not who you replied to, but in my case I have noai.DuckDuckGo set up as my default search engine in Firefox. Any search I do automatically includes the noai prefix in the url. 👍
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Only morons like these would take basic information at base level. I hope they all go broke and then some.
Also their employer, Donald Trump, has made his fortune and career based on screwing people over and wage theft.
I never understood how he just kept getting away with shit like that his entire life.
ICE has been quietly firing some of the roughly 12,000 officers it hired during its 2025 rapid expansion, citing background red flags that former DHS officials say should have been caught before hiring and because of poor performance.
A whistleblower told the DHS Office of Inspector General in August 2025 that final job offers were being issued before fingerprint, identity, and credit checks were completed, and that some recruits began training or duty while investigations were still open
I shudder at the thought of what "poor performance" means at ICE. Not enough arrests? Not enough tasered people?
Probably slipping on the ice and being made fun of on late night television. 😂
Probably more like tasering people while being filmed. As long as it's off camera it never happened.
And as funny as it sounds, it's probably true. They have been told to be brutal, just don't end up on the evening news beside a dead body.
People who failed a psychological profile to become a cop
Ex military that had war crimes and gross misconduct swept under the rug so higher-ups could save face?
In this admin poor performance could also mean not being harsh enough.
There never was ask for competency, trump fires like for not being loyal enough.
A few months ago, I asked Lemmy how much I could expect to make if I went through ICE training, and quit immediately before my first operational deployment. I'd bet I wasn't the only one to contemplate such a scam.
Probably paperwork issues that delay full depotions. I could see the courts full of wrongfully arrest lawsuits because there US citazen paperwork was available but not filed correctly. It comes with the arrest now ask questions later mentality.
I wonder if any of those are non-fascists who joined with the intent of sabotage.
Not enough tortures, I guess
"I'm way behind on my beating quotas" -Barney Calhoun
Please tell us you have a source for this, that is awesome
https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/ice-recruits-dismissed-over-accelerated-vetting-concerns-1820091
paywalled:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/2026/09/03/ice-whistleblower-background-checks-vetting-hiring-spree/30916fc0-a7e6-11f1-9e38-f705d048bd5a_story.html
The source has already been posted, but I remember a journalist reporting that she applied to ice and they hired her immediately without doing any background research and after she had responded saying she had recanted her application
Not surprising given what we've seen reported: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2026/01/ice-recruitment-minneapolis-shooting.html
::: spoiler spoiler/quote Somehow, despite never submitting any of the paperwork they sent me—not the background check or identification info, not the domestic violence affidavit, none of it—ICE had apparently offered me a job.
According to the application portal, my pre-employment activities remained pending. And yet, it also showed that I had accepted a final job offer and that my onboarding status was “EOD”—Entered On Duty, the start of an enlistment period. I moused over the exclamation mark next to “Onboarding” and a helpful pop-up appeared. “Your EOD has occurred. Welcome to ICE!”
I clicked through to my application tracking page. They’d sent my final offer on Sept. 30, it said, and I had allegedly accepted. “Welcome to Ice. … Your duty location is New York, New York. Your EOD was on Tuesday, September 30th, 2025.”
By all appearances, I was a deportation officer. Without a single signature on agency paperwork, ICE had officially hired me.
Perhaps, if I’d accepted, they would have demanded my pre-employment paperwork, done a basic screening, realized their mistake, and fired me immediately. And yet, the pending and upcoming tasks list suggested a very different outcome. My physical fitness test had been initiated on Oct. 6, it said: three days in the future. My medical check had apparently been completed on Oct. 6. :::
I'm surprised they are not getting the latino officers to drive a bus of deportees into Mexico and then not letting them back.
Offering the job before the background check!?
Good gosh everyone involved in this should be fired and legally barred from ever being involved in hiring again.
you fuck one goat...
maybe apply with the FBI if that was the case ?
Iirc many of the signing bonuses required a contract of 5 years.
Which is conveniently 1 year longer than the president's term...
Stupids getting suckered and left holding the bag, not my problem.
But also making a violent, lawless, militarized force loyal to one person, not the office.
Trump ain't going to pay those debts for them.
This is exactly to motivate those thugs so they do everything that trump stays in power after 2029.
Not only they might need to pay 50,000 that they probably already spent, but might be also told that they will go to jail for doing what they were told to keep that 50k.
I wouldn't be surprised that those fired ICE were fired, because they had issues with what they were told to do.
win/win for trump :(
Lol no way, is this true? It's the world actually not as bad as it always seems, because that's fucking hilarious.
Eh, what you're implying is not how these things usually work. If the government side terminates your contract early, you keep the bonus. I've seen it in the military. People signed with bonuses that the government paid up front. Then while the member was in tech school his position got cut (Air National Guard), so they ended his contract but he kept the bonus because he wasn't the one that invalidated the contract. If it works the same and these ICE agents did get terminated by the next administration, they would still keep their bonus.
If there is a next term, it will be someone who supports ICE continuing to exist.
This is objectively funny.
Fuck every single one of them. I hope they are financially crippled from this and learn something important about trusting authoritarians.
It's even funnier. The bonus was taxable, they paid not a little bit of it to tax right away. They don't get that refunded but they do still have to repay the 50K in full.
In other words, trying to be a racist pieces of shit professionally was very expensive. As it should be.
Guess who those taxes are going to. This keeps getting funnier the more I think about it.
Guess who the tariffs went to. This is extortion
I don't think that's how these people are wired.
They're conditioned to blame others for their problems. They will just blame harder.
I can't wait to find out how they will blame the woke left for this very thing they were warned about.
Biden took the 50k!!!
He shit in my pants too!
Came here looking for this, lmao
Anyone who knows anything connected to Trump it’s that he always looks to screw everyone over, especially those most loyal to him. He loved to prove people are suckers, like he gets off on this.
I hope this just increases the number of people that realize it, I don’t hope too hard, but I have hope…
Yep. His number one play is to promise things, usually payment, then never follow through. He should be an idiot who only got away with that once or twice. But apparently people are way too stupid to support that world. They'll fall for it endlessly.
He was a useful idiot for laundering money.
Ding ding ding!
And that's what taught him that as long as the money keeps moving, and the sums of moving money are big enough, the rewards always grossly outweigh the penalties. That fact has only grown more true and far-reaching, throughout his entire life.
Folks miss the whole point, getting up in arms primarily about the policies and their way-too-real play-acting toward such, failing to see that this entire administration is strictly a gigantic, nakedly transparent, global-scale grift.
It's vacuuming up WILD sums of money, moving them, knowing that any penalties can only come much later, AND must contend with the massively stacked deck that's built by moving those hideously big sums of money. There's a lot to say about the insane number of grift-streams they have openly established, way more than makes sense to do here, but fuuuuuuck holy fucking fuck.
::: spoiler spoiler Don't get me wrong, on the idea of money being the bigger problem. The whole shebang is also rife with heinous malevolent creatures like Stephen Miller who care only about directed hate, not money. The grift is the bigger long-term "we're all more and more fucked, now...", but the actively constructed misery at present is itself beyond the fuckin pale and would need a thousand more words to address. :::
Reminds me of every narcissist I've ever known...
No no, they were right to fire me. My testosterone levels were probably just not high enough. I'll try again next year! Maybe I can impress with my new golden sneakers and that gold watch ... 🤔
You might be onto something here. It certainly looks that way.
He's definitely implied it if he hasn't outright said it.
I think I speak for all of us when I say,
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHA
HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHA HA HA HA HA HA
This move is right out of the Trump business playbook. He's been not paying workers and committing fraud against contractors his entire adult life. Avoiding the payout was the plan from day 1 when the bonus was offered--I'm betting Trump himself recommended this outcome. Fuck ICE. I hope every agent experiences bankruptcy and hardship. They ruined their lives to serve a child-rapist.
Not only do these idiots get what they deserve, but it's also hilarious that Trump is scamming and turning his most hardcore supporters against him
They'll still be voting for whatever republican is on the ballot
Because they're stupid
They are single issue voters, oh sorry you already said stupid.
I doubt they're against him. Somehow its Bidens fault or Obamas fault or Canadas fault
Tf you gotta do to get fired from ICE? Show compassion?
"Oh no, would you look at that, you wore white socks after Labor Day. And just two days before you qualified for benefits, darn it"
I love watching Conservatives getting hoisted on their own Petard--they are the reason At-will employment exists
Nothing, the signing bonus was just bait for gullible MAGA people
trump needed his distraction of the month, now that has died down hes cutting them loose.
The department has been firing people that they found out they didn't pass their background checks now after they didn't do them in the first place. My guess is probably things like having previous arrests/convictions, DV, different aliases.
But probably not things like being convicted for beastiality, those kids are alright according to Kash.
There's a sweet spot of UNHINGED RACIST PSYCHO WHO WILL FOLLOW ORDERS they're looking for. These were either UNHINGED RACIST PSYCHOPATHS WHO BLINDLY FOLLOW ORDERS or UNHINGED RACIST PSYCHOS WHO MAY QUESTION ORDERS.
If only there was some way to predict …
I take two things from this:
Secret third thing: they never intended to keep them in the first place, and it was a scam the whole time. I doubt 1 or 2 are even plausible.
It's not a secret third thing.
As soon as we heard that the signing bonus was related to a probationary period, everyone who knows anything about how Trump does business said, "Nobody is getting that bonus."
It's extra shitty if they paid it out up front and now the employees have to pay it back, but none of this comes as a surprise.
It would be shitty if it happened to nurses or firemen or something. This is fucking hilarious.
Iirc, it was a taxable 10K per year for 5 years. If they were let go, they had to pay back the full, untaxed amount.
It does, in fact, seem like that's the case
It's only the case because Trump is using taxpayer money and not from his pocket. If he had to personally pay the signing bonus they wouldn't get one even if it was promised. If Elon wanted DOGE to actually do it's job they would impeach Trump.
This is a single instance posted with little to no detail in a thread that loves to promote any kind of rumor of a reactionary experiencing hardship.
So, consider taking it with a boulder of salt.
No source. No supporting details. It's just Lefty Forward From Grandma as far as I'm concerned.
Just a few
https://bsky.app/profile/zaclivinglife.bsky.social/post/3m3oflejyus2r
https://bsky.app/profile/cardboardrevolution.com/post/3m3ppilocac2f
And the direct reply
https://bsky.app/profile/bamamontana.bsky.social/post/3m3qze5fk5c2o
https://bsky.app/profile/tjjohnson.bsky.social/post/3mcfrfg43yn2i
Everything they do is a scam, so this tracks
it was planned 5 year in to get the bonus, they fully expect the next president to immediately fire, ro downsize the agency.
the cynic in me thinks it's more just that they have impossible quotas. since many of them are coming in with the idea that the country is bursting with illegals, they think they will reach those numbers easily but then find that no, actually like we've been telling you, they're mostly here legally. So they fail to make their numbers, are marked as poor performers and wash out. The smart ones would have put that signing bonus into a HYSA but I doubt their that clever.
Could be a neat way to wash away student loans. Use the 50K to pay off student debt, Fail on purpose, declare bankruptcy to dismiss the signing bonus debt.
Anyway, I don't think it has to do with their conduct or competency they got played using the old MLM scheme. can't deport illegals when all the illegals and even questionable have already been deported. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes as they like to say.
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Don't get me wrong they're def pieces of shit, but a piece of shit with a major quota can be extra shitty because of stress. Like starving and beating a street dog. It's already prone to biting. you just made it snap faster.
also even if there are illegals out there , they wont be announcing or showing themselves. they will be mostly in Hiding.
That's fucking genius. No way they are thinking that deep.
Basically just like the Nazi Brownshirts when they outlived their usefulness.
Now we just have to wait until they do something stupid and then get officially disbanded.
Well, what I want to know is, were these people fired because they weren't brownshirt enough? Then it's just cleaning ranks for the most loyal and extreme hires to come in. This is what it seems to be, since the people being fired are due to failed "background checks" or "poor performance".
It's almost always a case of both, but it's likely that the US Govie has more elite fanatic troops they deem sufficient.
What if you happened to have spent it all on new and exciting looksmaxing medical procedures?
Asking for a friend.
Back in my day we called lookmaxing gender affirming care.
Time to looksmin and get your money back lol
“looksminority”
suddenly ice thugs everywhere oops
Well the current admin did promise to cut down on costs and actually letting them keep their bonuses would be a huge cost.
Oh no, person who is notorious for not paying people finds excuses to not pay his Nazi secret police
I wonder at what point those people finally turn on him. Usually, failure to pay a group results in mutiny of some kind.
Maybe they are so brainwashed that they believe whatever their superiors are saying to gaslight them about failing the probationary period.
Or maybe DHS was smart enough to hire a bunch of people who didn't meet the criteria just so they could "finalize the background check" and fire them right when it was convenient.
awww. poor babies just wanted to shoot brown people, and now they're getting fired?!
The craziest ones are the brown people that signed up
The best they could possibly do is lock down the wife and kids of the couch f*cker.
That's the craziest part, all these sociopaths in power have immigrant wives or parents, with Trumplethinskin being the prime example.
There's good immigrants ans bad immigrants.
The good one are rich enough or protected by people in power till they stop please them.
The bad one are everyone else. But hey.... The neat part is we include the white one.
DEI Racism
Even better, they're getting un-paid the money they already spent on a Cybertruck.
I would LOVE to see a study done on these people. What their criminal history is, how many have received complains against them of stalking and domestic abuse, history of killing/torturing small animals...
One was fired by two departments for misconduct before being hired by ICE. They retractively checked his past, fired him, and he committed suicide.
A critic reference in the wild!!!
It stinks!
^(but^ ^not^ ^really)^
Good for him 🖤
Excellent.
So they can do something useful afterall
some of them were reported early on they were SA people already.
Thats how signing bonuses work... I never spent one I got until well after the "probationary period".
Same w/ 401k's, thats usually 18 months.
What do you mean same with 401k’s? They can’t take that back.
The company match often has a vesting period.
The funds you contribute they have no claim to, you're right.
The company matching contribution can be taken back if you separate in the 1st 18 months typically (and they do, been there).
Most companies have a longer vesting period than 18 months. Most are closer to 5 years.
Not in my world, its been 18 months for the last 6 jobs over 30 years. Might be the vocation, I'm in aerospace.
But fuck me 5 years? That egregious in my opinion... 2 years tops, the rest is an open invitation for dickhead management to be assholes. Or an incentive to fire you at 4y 10m to get their interest gaining money back.
For the longer vesting periods, it's normally like a staggered thing. 4-6 years is common for 100% vestment. But after 1 year you're 20%, 2 years is 40%, and so on.
I've seen this with 401k, 403b, and stock options over my working 20 years. Similar with friends and family.
Wow learned something new today. In my industry its standard 18 months its all yours going forward.
Stock options have always been a joke though, we had "windows" we could exercise them. Well wouldn't you know it the stock would tank a few days before the window opened... EVERY. FUCKING. TIME.
This was my experience.
DOH!
This comment was meant for Jaybone, my mistake.
Hah, company match, that's a good one.
Demand more from your employer.
The company matching contribution can be taken back if you separate in the 1st 18 months typically (and they do, been there).
Meh. Fuck 'em.
This is Awesome! Best thing I've seen all week.
Remember, my friends, this is still part of the scam. Now they will file lawsuits, paid for by you and I, the taxpayers, and they'll get partial bonuses paid out in the end.
It will probably be a class action lawsuit which famously really pays out the lawyers more than the actual plaintiffs. Just another way to grease the palms of the rich.
You cant sue the government, or use class action litigation
Exactly. This is one of those things that I do not understand how Trump has been getting away with for more than 50 years. He rarely, if ever, pays his workers. Yet he keeps finding new investors and workers all the time. Most people who are unable to pay a single payment have their credibility fucked for a long time. But it seems to do nothing to him.
They should be put on a registry and limit their freedoms.
Lol, lmao even.
Delectable.
They fucked themselves so hard. Yeah anyone can figure out free money with terms is basically a loan. They fuckin' did it to themselves though.
https://www.l4sb.com/blog/the-devil-is-in-the-details-homeland-securitys-ice-bonus-program/
If you're in the market for a used pickup, I bet you will have a lot of options real soon.
Sooo many white Dodge Rams! 🤣
Its Raptors around here
Probably has enough drugs spilled onto the seats to set off every ATF dog in a 50 mile radius :D
I thought they didn't get the money until they reached a milestone, like 3 years later.
Aren’t signing bonuses explicitly an early in the job sort of thing?
Yea that's normally how it works, but the news was reporting the fine print of some who signed on not getting their bonuses until they've met a 3 year minimum or having to pay it back. Like with anything Trump, the money was never real.
Right right, but this was advertising language. In reality it was a one-time performance bonus, but they called it a signing bonus to trick people into joining.
The problem ICE lawyers will have is that if they call it a signing bonus, maybe the fine print doesn't matter, because people reasonably believed that it was one... So my prediction is a class action lawsuit. Although that will be interesting because there are limits on what federal employees can sue for. We shall see.
Legaly speaking, if your employee has comited crimes during their work, can't you ask them to give back even more than just the signing bonus?
I am quite sure ICE keeps informations on their ex agents...
Yes but isn't it normally expected for you to stay for more than 3 days rather than taking it and fucking off?
Normally yes but I think they weren't actual signing bonuses. To be honest, I read somewhere that some were quitting because they were afraid they would never get the bonuses, but I neither remember the source, not its veracity. But a lot of times it's Lemmy.
It's in the name
A Trump never pays his bills (or debts)!
Haha get fucked Nazi terrorist assholes.
Where's the article?
It's related to that ice guy who killed himself after he was fired.
This is the only thing I could find that brings to light the repayment.
https://unitingnow.substack.com/p/ice-agents-are-reportedly-being-fired
He took "termination notice" seriously
This is just pure hopium.... It's mostly Americans happy that something "was done to the fascists, yay" when in reality it's all bs.
Newsflash Americans; you're actually going to have to stand up to the fascists eventually!
https://www.latintimes.com/ice-rushed-hire-12000-agents-50000-bonuses-now-its-quietly-firing-them-599273
Part of the story in that one.
Look, when I signed up to work for an agency that deports people to countries they've never been to, I was fine with it cause I was gonna get a lot of money. Now that I'm not getting that money, I obviously have to vote even harder for the assholes fucking me over because the brown people are the reason I didn't get paid, not the president who routinely doesn't pay people. This post was sponsored by the Heritage Foundation or some shit.
Ha-ha, suckers!
Now release all the people these agents detained.
Sent to concentration camps.
Maybe next time one of these losers decide to off themselves they'll take their bosses down with them.
They'd better get to point blank range; they're terrible shots.
Hiring people who are specifically filtered for their penchant for committing violence and then screening them over en mass definitely seems like a smart long term plan that can in no way backfire on the individuals very publicly engaged in this practice...
muahahaharrrr
Cool. Now make like a good Nazi by taking after your role model and painting the ceiling red. Fucking traitors.
Please be real
Put some ice on it.
They were probably fired for NOT having a rap sheet with assaults on minorities.
There's standards?!
Trump betrays everyone who trusts him, even his wife and kids.
They get what they deserve, in that case. They sold their fellow countrymen and their own souls out for money. I couldn't be bothered to muster even a scrap of sympathy for the black hearted thugs.
Boo fucking hoo, you Nazi pricks.
Aaaahahahaaaaa, oh the leopards are dining well tonight.
Read. Haha.
Best thing I read all day!
Mm, nothing like pissing on J6'ers, which have actually revolted.
LOLOLOL! F-them and they should have known better. MAGA will screw you.
Yep, ya love to see it!
lol
Ah, schadenfreude can be nice sometimes. Too bad, it came at the expense of many good immigrants.
"B-but... we thought you liked and valued us because we were white enough."
Now that's some good fucking news. Get fucked
I think we all have to thank ICE for doing what they can to break MAGA, and hand #47 a huge loss in November. BRAVO! STRONG WORK!
Wonder now many of those were involved in lethal shootings.
None probably. They have quotas to meet
Lie down with dogs, wake up with fleas. Could happy endings be expected with the group that hired them?
this is just a picture.
Bwahahahahah!
capitalists gonna capitalism.
Awwwwww
I'd be surprised if a single one of them got the payout, and I don't feel sorry for any of them
What movie is that from?
It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia, specifically the episode Dennis and Dee Go on Welfare
They should unionize then.
Any recently fired before their probationary period ended ice agents want to set fire to the Constitution?
Speak to your local antifa cell for more information.
What ya bet it’s not the white ones getting fired before bonus time.
Anyone provide a good source for this? I've no sympathy for those who joined ICE, but I've no tolerance for a government sponsored bait and switch either.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ice+agents+fired+before+bonus
I'm betting that was faster than typing your comment...
https://noai.duckduckgo.com/?q=ice+agents+fired+before+bonus
I'm betting that was just as fast as grabbing your link...
Actually it isn't because then I'd have to type the noai full address to get to the page and then type in the search instead of just typing it in the address bar of a tab...
Like, I get what you're doing, but it would have literally taken over twice as long. Granted that's just a couple seconds.
But still
Not who you replied to, but in my case I have noai.DuckDuckGo set up as my default search engine in Firefox. Any search I do automatically includes the noai prefix in the url. 👍
Set Noai. As your default search and it will use that when you type in the address bar