He had good PR for quite a while. Yes, he's always been who he is, but the general public never had that information until recently. There are absolutely people who bought Teslas early on that didn't know.

I know a few very decent people who have bought like 6-7 years back. Especially back then this was just (at first sight, they were paying later when services came...) the best electric car out there. This has changed (BYD etc), and I don't want to get into the general "cars suck" discussion here. Not my poimt. All I wanna say is that I in no way judge per se anybody driving an "old" model S. Not every average customer did the research and maybe it was a bit more known to the general public in the US than in the rest of the world what a douchebag Elon was let's say pre 2020. All the newer/Tesla versions and their buyers? They can go fuck themselves because no excuse after DOGE any more. You're directly supporting fascism. Everybody knows today.

Nobody can see the future. We will see.

Tesla is a hype stock and is based on hopes and dreams. Maybe it will get there but probably not. If Elon gets sick or quits, the entire company doesn't have a chance.

I would say there is a very big chance of that happening in the next few years.

The next big wave is probably robotics and tesla could have a chance there though to once again rise. But many other tech companies want the same market.

Right but those are all speculative, and unlikely to ever turn a profit. Optimus is a charade.

It's the same reason why other tech companies are falling too, like alphabet. The giant spending on AI surprised the market, which is strange, since it hasn't been a secret. But the stock market is always over-reacting, which is why it's easy to make money long term.

People without experience get scared and sell their stocks, until they get the needed experience to either sell and buy something on the way up, or don't sell and wait it out.

We are all in a bubble. Social media algorithms puts everyone to a certain narrative based on one's interests and miss the bigger picture. I spoke to a guy who seems to be right leaning, kinda believes in outdated preconceptions such as men are naturally inclined to be spreading his seeds and cited billionaires like Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk. I told him most of Elon Musk's children are IVF-conceived.

Yeah, that phrasing is a little long to stick in a meme tho.

But they can afford a Tesla

Targeting 20 percent of the population isn't the type of business model that puts your stock this far above all the established automakers though. The correction on the junk stock can't come soon enough.

And how much of that range do you use per day?

He's using a "thorn" cuz he's so tistic and awesome.

That character is sounded out as "th". Looks like what your tounge does when you make the sound.

I thought I was the only one. I wanted to Hulk punch the guy over IP.

I downloaded for defending a rich person. "His networth is tied up in stocks" is the kinda shit someone says who doesn't understand that that doesn't make them any less rich. A trillionaire means a trillion dollars of your shit is owned by him, houses and farmlands and workers and production capacity and art. No one should be allowed to have more than 10-20 million, at that amount they can pick someone to never have to work again in their life every year for the rest of their life. That's too much money.

eh, stonk market is one big rigged casino. guarenter you spcx shoots to moon around when Musk's personal share-lockup period ends

Yes, good catch.

Sadly, their car sales are back up in Europe

Alas, the same in Australia and we have no tariffs on cars,. so plenty of options

Supporting the election of rightwing oil sponsored Nazis that will cancel the subsidies on your vehicles is another way to lose profits.

I’m starting to wonder if Tesla doesn’t actually want to sell cars, and would rather rent rides like uber though, just like the rest of the late stage capitalist hellhole is trying to do.

Yeah, while there are some folks that are die-hard must have gas cars, lots of other folks experience instant torque, smoothest and quietest drive imaginable, and replenishing range without having to go out of your way to a station. Wondering when the next maintenance needs to come and there's no oil, no wearing belts, no super hot engine bay, just some things like wiper blades and a bit more rough on tires owing to generally higher weight.

There are downsides and awkward fits for some people. My apartment dwelling colleague would be screwed since his place has no available residential charging. Road trips can be more inconvient (though viable and perhaps worth it if you are taking a road trip every few months but spare yourself a weekly trip to the gas station). But certainly there's a market for which EVs provide more value than combustion vehicles.

Our home is 100% EV, its only two cars but its still a sweep!

Yes, yes we are.

Nazi pedophiles at that!

I might try that next time

I was kinda figuring that it's after the episode where they get over whatever gripes they have with Costco. Dale most certainly not have a membership card but Hank takes him anyways. Also I don't think Hank would think it's communism since Costco is actually a pretty damned good example of Capitalism done right with it undermining competition via lower prices using clever tricks rather than market dominance, he would probably have a different gripes like how far away it is versus how much they save or thinking they're fucking over customers in some unseen way like selling old food or something.

I imagine it'd probably be something along the lines of Peggy dragging Hank to Costco and Dale tagging along for one reason or another. I could also see it becoming a mild gag in later episodes where Dale and Hank come back from Costco with mostly normal things but Dale buying the occasional weird shit in bulk.

I'd say this is a significant factor. Some youtuber did a video where he basically showed that most Musk stocks were overinflated by a factor of 10 based on their traditional metrics. The difference was basically built on investors' confidence that Musk could keep the companies growing. Between driving away customers, not focusing on building his businesses, and still not achieving the goals he promised, investors are rightly worried that desired growth is no longer something to bank on. He may have to stop relying on the wunderkind factor and actually start running his companies responsibly, and I don't think he can do that anymore, if he ever could.

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Its been a large sudden drop

But its still over 300.

And it hasnt been under 300 since summer 2025

There is another problem which keeps stocks like Tesla afloat when it really should have tanked a long time ago: Index funds based on indexes like S&P 500 etc., where investors are automatically buying Tesla stock when buying into the fund, which stabilizes the stock in question. Musk knows this and that was the exact reason why he tried to get indexes to bend the rules of inclusion for spaceX to be included in indexes earlier than usual. The grave consequences are people investing in index funds are directly milked. Pension funds often include indexes, so what Musk is doing there is in effect trying to steal from people who did not actively invest in SpaceX.

Not outside the realm of possibility by any means.