This would have been my top line comment. I wish anime wasn't such a glaring blind spot for me, because it's something so many people connect on. But I see it like reality TV. There's 1000 shows with 1000 episodes each, and some shows are probably great, but I've never been interested.
Sure, whatever. I’m just saying it’s a very broad cultural Japanese thing, and not just “hundreds of soap opera” episodes, or Naruto or whatever, I don’t even know myself. A lot of variety is what I’m saying.
It’s actually pretty interesting. I guess “the west” is kinda prejudiced about what anime really is.
No, I agree, and I'm not saying I dislike it for a good reason or even a vastly informed reason; I've watched a few, and they felt varied in content and style and tone (at least to me). I'm just saying sometimes it's as simple as "just don't like it". I don't like eggplant either; had it prepared a few different ways. I don't think it's that I just haven't found that magical preparation or mix of seasonings or whatever; just not a fan.
No judgment since I think many anime shows are not worth the time, but anime is just another medium, like books, more than anything. If there’s a genre of something you like on another medium, then there probably are some decent shows for that genre in anime.
Lots of anime is written with a specific audience in mind, such as the most well known anime shows being written for teens and young adults. Even more, most anime has a specific gendered audience as its target audience.
I personally didn’t care too much for anime until I watched some very high quality shows that pulled me more into the medium.
I find the idea bwhind each show is more compelling and tends to be more mature to what the west peovides in the same (animated) genre.
You get the odd show like 'Invincible' that is more mature but they are way more rare than on the eastern entertainment domain.
Can't really say I have noticed much shows that are on the level of 'Avatar the last airbender' in western tv (and that alone is a controversial topic of if it's a western cartoon or more eastern in influence)
Yeah I was probably too young to grasp that when I first watched in ~2003. It was one of the first anime I watched with relatively adult themes, but was drawn in by the art style and music. The sexual overtones were lost on me.
FLCL is great, but it is pretty damned weird and better with knowledge of the material it parodies.
Cowboy Bebop is the entry point to anime. It's mostly episodic so there's no need for a huge time investment. You'll know if you're going to like it or not after an episode or two. The only problem is that it's so damned good, it's only downhill from there.
I'm kinda in this boat but I have a soft spot for anime that I grew up with in the 90s and early 2000's.
There's also some more recent stuff that's been generally OK, but I can never keep up with conversations about it because I'm just not in that sphere at all really.
Hit me with some Gen 1 Pokémon, Avatar: TLA or old Ghibli stuff and I'm waxing poetic instantly lol
I'm a furry and even I don't get most furries, haha!
Like, I'm here to be an animal. I heard "people who like to be animals" and went "whoa, sign me up!" and it turns out a lot of furries DON'T like to be animals, they just... pretend to be animals but "oh that's a character not really me" and they still consider themselves human...?... also they're only half-human-half-animals, not actual animal shape either?... I don't get it
turns out most of the actual "I'm just an animal" animals are the therians instead (once I found them I decided I'd be both). I'm still a non-character, non-anthropomorphic (the furry jargon for normal animal shape is "feral") furry though, and the anthro furries can just deal. :3
This is hilarious. Don’t get me wrong, @[email protected] , I appreciate the details - a fascinating glimpse at something I didn’t know - but it’s funny timing with some of the other threads here
Haha yeah! :3 I uh, misread the critter I replied to as saying "I don't get it" rather than "I'm not even interested in getting it". Cue the massive infodump. >,,>
I'm not that sorry, though. It's still fun to talk about and also kinda hilarious that it happened.
I used to think that, but then I realized human brains are kind of a mess so if weird things happen it's fine as long as nobody's hurting themselves or someone else
If that's what they feel good for them, validity isn't a pie and more for a weird niche group isn't less for the rest
And if they're trolling you're failing responding to trolls 101
Some folks get deep into D&D and build encyclopedic knowledge on estoric spell combos, some delve deep into trains, and some memorize how many lifetime touchdowns Joe Namath has. Dumb, but I understand it.
Its that reason why I say everyone is a nerd about something.
Yah, you may be talking to the former school jock/football star who was barely handed their diploma, but ask them about their sport/the industries around it. You will likely get a better lesson on statistics and managment that you can get out of most text books. (Assuming you can keep the conversation focused)
People usually like talking about their interests.
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with being into football, just like there's nothing wrong with not being into it. If you're an asshole about either of those things, that's a problem.
Meh, even that is different. One facilitates an activity YOU partake in. The other is an activity you watch others do. Obsessing over how well grown men perform at children's games is odd. Structuring your weekend around observing other people exercise while you sit on the couch...is weird.
Same here. And it used to cripple me during meetings, and basic conversations with coworkers. I’ve worked in sales, construction, and inventory management and the sports convos were inescapable and apparently a huge key to relating to customers and colleagues.
Just could never get into it, and not the type to fake it either. Unless I’m playing the sport, I could give a fuck less about others who I do not and will not ever know playing a sport.
Some aspects of streamer culture I get, I do not understand vtuber culture. Youtube started recommending one to me because apparently played a video game I like and watch videos about, and...as far as I can tell her job is to be professionally sexually harassed. Like, men used to whistle at showgirls in saloons, now they throw virtual acorns at anime girls to "nut on" them.
Fun part is her mom apparently found out, and participates.
Because it's blatantly wrong. Many high profile vtubers have had their faces on stream or leaked and they are usually average to way above average looks and often get more views on their IRL content. I am sure some are ugly, but claiming it as a primary reason as if all vtubers have image issues is provably false.
This is how I know I’m old now; what little I’ve ever seen or read seems utterly stupid and vapid to me. “Oh, just watch Flimdiflub6g for 1 hour, you’ll get it!” No, no I don’t think I will.
I know nothing about both but since I suspect vtubbbing brached from anime subcultures I kinda get why they did.
Streamer though, I weirdly should be their demographic but I'm not.
I'm an avid gamer, I follow youtuber since vlog brother/smosh era, so I witness Pewds rise to fame but never find any joy in watching it live.
Like SovietWomble, his bullshitery series is top notch entertainment, I've rewatched the Arma and CS series multiple time, despite never played either one. Still didn't like watching it live.
I think because it's similar with the one with celebrities. I just don't care with the parasocial aspect of it.
I was gonna make a comment about the differences before I realized I couldn't tell you the difference between them outside of how they choose to represent themselves.
Vtubers are a subset of streamers, they are subject to all the same drama and content. People just like to separate them because, similar to anime, there are many people who watch vtubers but don't watch other streamers.
Same reason people like watching TV dramas. It's escapism. They get to vicariously live someone else's more colourful life - or are glad they're not living the celebrity's real or acted horrible life - for a short while to get away from their own.
And anyone on a screen is usually better-looking as well, which is a big draw.
This is a really fair way to put it. I can't understand it personally, but I read fantasy books to escape the real world, and I tell anyone I can that I read fiction only because I live in the real world and I've had enough of its shit. So appreciate your shedding some light on it, because I certainly didn't understand it (celebrity nonsense). Still don't, but maybe I will soon.
Lifestyle channels and blogs. This type of content is often very consumeristic. Unless it’s in an educational/informative context, I don’t have an interest in watching strangers have experiences that I could be having myself.
Religion. Even when I've taken the time to look up the difference is between a Catholic and a Christian, or a Shia and a Sunni, it seems like within minutes at most, that knowledge just sublimates.
Not sure if the error was intentional to make the point that you don't care, but Catholics are the largest denomination of Christianity, rather than an alternative to it.
Using Google Translate to convert the overview to English, I get:
Catholicism is considered the largest movement within Christianity. The term derives from the word "catholic" and comes from the Greek (καθολικός - katholikos), meaning general or universal. The term "catholic" was first used in the context of the church by Ignatius of Antioch. In a letter to the Christians of Smyrna in 107, he wrote: "Where Christ is, there is the Catholic Church."[1]
Catholicism is united by two creeds, the Apostles' Creed and the Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed, and can be divided into:
Christians who unite under the Bishop of Rome (the Pope): Roman Catholics
Other Christians who call themselves Catholic
That sounds like they're classifying it the same way I'd normally see it in the English-speaking world.
I'm talking about the Dutch, not academics and Wikipedia article writers. When someone is talking about someone who is "Christelijk" they mean protestant.
I'm from New Jersey and we all make a very big distinction between Catholicism and Christian. And lots of us were raised Catholic around here, and Christians all seem to be late-in-life converts, at least where I'm from. And I'm a typical nothinger now, but I'd take Catholicism and it's bullshit (not kid touching) over what I've experienced with the Christians around here, never met a faker bunch of people.
Zeus is the most important but he sucks. Poseidon is in charge of the sea and he really likes sinking ships. Hades is in charge of you when you're dead. Artemis and Athena are both aroace, but Artemis like platonic bathing with her besties while Athena prefers maps. Everyone hates Ares but not as much as Hephaestus, Hera will kill you if you cheat on your wife, and Hestia and Dionysus can't agree which one is more important. Some people say Persephone is a victim, but the truth is she's ruled the underworld a lot longer than her husband has. Demeter is not supportive.
Usually how those divisions occurred is much more interesting.
I'm fascinated that certain ideas have persisted over millennia and curious what it is about them that has captured minds so consistently. Religion, but more broadly spirituality, seems to have a constant presence throughout human conciousness and that is quite remarkable.
Think of it in terms of gladiator movies, the crusades, the fall of Rome. That shit is history, knights in armor, clash of cultures, and is full of drama as game of thrones
Tiktok and most kinds of short form content for me. I have a few friends into Tiktok and I'm sure it's fun but I just don't care to check it out.
I've tried to see what the appeal of short form content is. Twitter, mastodon, and bluesky have all ended up being a shitty RSS feed interrupted by the opinions of strangers for me. Now I'm just over trying to get it. It's just another weird ass thing that tonnes of people are into.
Same, think there are like 2 available but I'd want electric which doesn't exist at all. Had an el camino as my first car and other than the lack of heat it was great.
Other than American pickups, the rest of them have stayed relatively reasonable sized. Toyota Hilux, Mitsubishi L200, Isuzu D-Max, Volkswagen Amarok, Ford Ranger, Nissan Navara, Mercedes X-Class ... There's plenty to choose from.
Hmm...
I'd argue against houses/living space (what is reasonable) but the other stuff: Yeah.
Example:
I'd like a living space with 3-4 rooms with a nice garden.
Do I need that much when I could suffice with just 2? No.
Would I like to, to do my hobbies and interests? Yep
Much of the outrage culture online is rather foreign to me. It's not necessarily that I don't "get" it but I simply can't relate with the people who engage in it. Writing angry messages about certain people and events, having people pat me on the back for sharing views that they agree with and reading other people sharing these same same views just seems like some kind of fart smelling gathering which simply just doesn't appeal to me. It's all just meaningless noise. That kind of "conversation" could go on forever and it wouldn't ever achieve anything.
I straight up quit lemmy for almost a year due to people pushing stuff so hard where even unrelated communities weren't safe from anything and no one would care because c/all would act as one feed anyway. It really does feel like people want to be outraged for the sake of outraging rather than wanting to change something for the better while doing it at the cost of undermining what they wish to "protect".
The kardashian universe. I’ve never seen an ep, don’t know their names or whatever the fuck they do or say. As a 30 year old woman I feel like a unicorn not knowing shit about fuck when it comes to that whole thing.
LMAO! I’m married and now basically live the life of a 95 year old legit couldn’t be happier. Never had an instagram either. I don’t wanna get caught up in that shit.
I had a thought while watching the Winter Olympics recently.
Perhaps the Olympic Committee could send an every day hobbyist first. As sort of an OMG this course is bonkers.
Just watch.
Let’s say we take the type of skier hitting the Giant Slalom with nothing but some apres ski big talk & bragging of mogul crushing skills and let the poor mf’er do a gravity and inertia display?
I’d watch.
Then, the Olympic athletes would showcase their passion, skills & talented dedication towards this common sought goal.
So the basic question is what’s your reason for watching?
I also think luge looks like a blast … to do. I’ll watch it during the Olympics to bring back childhood memories of sledding. But I can’t imagine watching it in general. There’s no teamwork, no visible skill, no scores, and you can’t see the whole course. All you really have for the spectator is the finishing time and slo-mo instant replay. I’m not saying it doesn’t take skill, of course it does, I’m saying it doesn’t manifest in a visible way for a spectator to appreciate.
There are a few reasons why I'll watch a stream or let's play of a video game:
the sports angle. If you like to play a game, be it basketball or A Link to the Past, watching someone else play it extremely well can be gratifying.
Additional performance. Streamers themselves are characters, watching someone react to the game can be compelling in a way that's difficult to describe.
Rediscovery. Watching someone play a video game I know well can help me see it through fresh eyes. I can never play A Link to the Past for the first time again, but watching someone play it for the first time can help revisit that experience.
I'll watch a lets play of games I play to get new ideas for play style or if I am not understanding a mechanic, or even just to learn how to play in the first place if the tutorial sucks
It reminds me of being a young man smoking bongs on my friends couch while he plays GTA3. I'd still prefer to watch a friend play a game in person but there's less time for that these days.
French was my only choice for a second foreign language in school and I hated it. Such a weird language. They need a writing reform. Bordeaux is just comically bad. English could use a writing reform as well.
I'm blaming the French when English needs a reform. Much of the language is stolen French, with the diabolical inherent spelling traps, the other reason reform is required is the halting of the vowel change, which is why some words, though written the same, sound different - one example: though (tho) and bough (bau).
Yes but a lot is also language change. Knight for example was just spoken with a K and a fricative at that time and place. The writing just wasn't adapted to the changes in speech.
Oh it's not annoying me. I just don't want to learn see or speak the language. Since I moved a little further from the French border that is much easier.
Short form content that isn't a to the point tutorial.
Hell, on that note, tutorial videos where the person rambles on and on and on before finally showing you what to do. I came for a tutorial on how to do something and not a blog!
Yes, I have less issues that needs to be fixed, or tweaked on Linux than on Winslop. Less popups that appear out of nowhere, and no forced upgrades while being on the toilet
Yeah, I just have a tough time believing you guys, from my limited experience with Linux, but also from many others here who seem to be Linux users, but can appreciate why others don't use it. Folks talking about updates bricking peripherals and whatnot. It's something that has literally never happened to me in the last 30+ years I've been Windowsing.
If Linux users could stop being so hyperbolic in their superiority, it might entice me to try it out. Windows isn't some unusable shit and everyone knows it. It's had its issues since day one. And to suggest Linux is just this set it and forget it OS is preposterous. Let's all be real.
If Linux users could stop being so hyperbolic in their superiority,
FYI, we're actually substantially downplaying how superior Linux is.
That's part of the message we're trying to share, now that it is ready. You're allowed to use Linux as a shit-free alternative to Windows. For some people, that is enough.
But that's barely skimming the surface of all the cool shit happening on Linux today.
There's so many options for Linux though. Mint is super beginner friendly and doesn't focus on the terminal. You don't have to set up Arch your first time around.
That's a neat thing about Linux, the look and feel is actually totally separate from the distro. Everyone focuses on distros when really, that's mostly under-the-hood stuff, the look and feel is the desktop environment.
KDE is windows-10-like (out of the box, you can also rearrange the crap out of it, ours is set up more like Mac!) and also happens to be one of the most full-featured desktop environments, so you won't be missing stuff (like HDR support or whatever).
So, a distro with KDE.
Debian is great if you want something that Does Not Break on you. Ever. It will never throw you a curveball with an update. That also means you just won't really get updates very much, outside of a Big Major Upgrade every couple of years. If you're tired of Windows Update screwing with you, Debian's perfect.
Fedora is pretty good if you want the new shinies all the time. Major updates every 6 months. Debian has a bigger appstore and even stuff that isn't in there often provides .deb packages, which Fedora can't run, but it's not a huge deal.
Mint doesn't have a convenient KDE version (but you can install KDE after the fact). It has its own desktop called Cinnamon. More Windows 7 vibes. It's based on Debian so you get the Debian compatibility, as well, and they put work into making sure you have GUI apps for stuff like installing drivers (Debian you might need a terminal command or three during initial setup).
There's also immutable distros like Bazzite, which is basically SteamOS But Desktop. It also comes with similar restrictions to SteamOS, though. Good for an Appliance Computer, an absolute fucking pain if you ever need to install drivers/VR stuff/other system software or what-have-you. I'd avoid for your main computer.
It's recommended to run a ‘live usb’ first to see if there are any problems with hardware compatibility. Nowadays many distros have their installers as live usbs anyway, but idk about Debian.
Debian is weird in even having non-live ISOs, but they do have various live ones with different desktops! (Don't grab the one from the homepage, grab one of the live ones instead.)
You don't want the "netinst" ISO on the main page. It technically works, but it's a pain to use and needs internet access to install. Its only redeeming quality is the small download size and fitting on a CD (if you're burning it to a CD-R which is unlikely).
I just installed Debian with Plasma, and have been using a system with Mint and Plasma as my daily driver for a few months now. I used the default Cinnamon for about a year. Plasma is definitely way more polished and allows almost everything to be done via menus which is NOT a given with most Linux things. It does work most of the time but expect to run into some basic task you didn't even think about on Windows and having a frustrating experience chasing solutions to untangle how to do it.
I'm never going back to Windows but the amount of times I've had to do something convoluted to attempt something you'd think would be easy is too damn high.
You've just lost 90 percent of the population. They didn't understand a word you said. That's the problem with Linux and its developers. They assume people know all this stuff.
I mean, I could just go "TLDR grab Debian's live KDE edition" if that's easier!
The whole point in me explaining all that is that people don't know all this stuff. That's why I'm explaining it. I did gloss over the fact that distros exist, but it seems like the person I'm replying to already knows that multiple versions of Linux are a thing so that's not a huge issue.
And going "here's some options to pick from" helps if it turns out you've got different priorities than we do. But yeah, "TLDR Debian" is also good if you're overwhelmed.
@starlinguk@forestbeasts meh... he wanted to give you all the info and all the options,, that may be confusing for someone that only option was windows until now... Nowadays I dont give options, just try Kubuntu and see if you like it.
I can't ever tell what is critical to people. I got my wife her first MacBook last year. She's used it three times and hates it. I'm like.... red yellow green, and everything else is just like iPhone. Nope, she despises it.
I moved my daughter from windows to Linux Mint, and she barely noticed. She can't use her VR the same way, and that was the only difference that bothered her.
So I can't say you wouldn't hate Linux, but I can tell you I don't want my hobby to be fucking with OSes and Mint was perfect. You can just use it. Steam games, browsing the web, damn near everything works exactly the way you'd expect on Windows. I don't happen to need a second computer after my work MacBook, but if I did it would be Linux for sure.
Well, except no OneDrive. Which another point in Linux's favor.
For the Mac, I’ve had opposite experiences thanks to all of y’all online. Both my ex and my youngest kid wanted Mac’s, but I was the one cautioning that they may be popular but they’re different and some people don’t like that. He wouldn’t even try mine: I have windows, Mac and an assortment of Linux he can just try at any time
Jokes on me, I spent a ridiculous amount of money buying my kid a school Windows laptop (with him there apparently not speaking up) since that’s all he’s ever used, and I had to return it for a Mac
Don't take anything I've said as being anti-Mac. I am much happier to be on Mac than Windows. I would be happy on Linux as well, perhaps happier, but the corporate world being what it is, it turns out Linux doesn't make it easy to load a computer up with a bunch of spyware.
Okay, I'll be fair. Windows and MacOS are like... 3 things (If you still support Mac on Intel). Linux is like.... 500 OSes. Even if you strip it down and support the most common, you're looking at Arch (so customized that might as well be a separate OS for each user), Ubuntu, Fedora, and maybe Mint. So it's way more work to support Linux even if Linux were as easy to support as Mac and Windows, and I believe it is not.
I'm very happy with my Mac. But my wife hates things that change. She's one of those people who will hang onto a 15 year old laptop because "everything is the way I want it," even if it's all janky as hell.
I've been successfully using SteamVR on atomic Fedora. If she also uses SteamVR, I'd be happy to write details about my setup (though it's fairly standard)!
I think so. She has an oculus 2 and she is trying to connect wirelessly to Steam VR. I haven't really tried myself for a couple of years. It used to work fine on windows, at least wired. Wireless never worked that well for me.
I never got it to work in Linux but I haven't tried in a couple of years and I assume it's gotten better since then.
I'd say here we go making os a hobby, but it took some effort in windows, too.
Ah, I haven't used wireless VR yet, so I can't comment on that. Planning to wait for the Steam Frame, I'm sure Valve will make it work well enough. There is a project called ALVR that I keep reading about in the context of wireless VR on Linux, might be something to look at if you wanna dig deeper.
I'd argue that my setup allows you to not treat the OS as a hobby, but your mileage may vary :) I'm using an atomic Fedora variant (specifically Aurora, which is focused on developers - but there's also e.g. Silverblue (Gnome) or Kinoite (KDE) as normal day-to-day versions, and Bazzite which focuses on gaming). Steam is running through Flatpak, and everything else - SteamVR & the games themselves - honestly just worked for me. Sometimes SteamVR shows an error after starting, in that case I have to quit, unplug my headset for a few seconds, plug it back in & start SteamVR again, but other than that it's been a fairly painless experience.
I should mention that I use a Valve Index, but as long as you're using SteamVR, things should work the same.
A good reason why I don't want to "get" Linux is this guy posted in this thread with Linux as his example, and it's the most replied to thread with each user trying to justify their distro.
This is like me going into a bible belt small town, expressing my spiritual beliefs, and watching as each of the individual churches try to try and "save" me.
Until Linux users "get" why Windows is the marketshare leader and not demonize it like the spawn of Satan when it's literally just an OS on a completely optional piece of hardware, I don't think I'll ever "get" Linux.
Though I do care very much for Android if that counts. 😉
You don't have to tell people you use Linux or talk to them about it. I know that because I use Zorin OS, which is a really modern feeling Linux distro with a slick user interface, that's perfect for people like you and I, who don't want to be bombarded with opinions on the "right" operating system and just want to use their computers in peace. You should totally switch!
I think a lot of Linux people really do more harm than good when they try to sell people on Linux. Some of it is because they wildly overestimate how much the average person knows about computers, and some of it is just over sharing.
I've been using Linux for about half a year now. I'm a slightly above-average computer user, but not some kind of programming prodigy. I've had one significant hiccup when I was first installing it, which you probably won't have because that was a weird quirk of my specific 10+ year old motherboard.
After that everything has pretty much been smooth sailing. 99% of my general computer use is exactly the same as on Windows (though to be fair, I've been big on free software for a long time so I was using stuff like libre office and gimp instead of Microsoft office and Photoshop already)
I haven't yet run into a steam game that won't run for me. One or two of them I had to add a launch option or choose a different proton version, and I figured that out by basically just googling "steam Linux game name" and a couple keywords about the problem I was having like "audio stuttering," and the first search result had the fix.
Some games even run better for me now (mostly they're about the same, some are very slightly worse)
If you use a lot of mods, they can be a bit of a pain in the ass to figure out how to get them running, but it's usually doable, and once you do it's done and you don't have to do it again.
If you rely on specific windows-only software, usually you can get it running with WINE. That does take some figuring-out. But again, once it's done, it's done.
And overall my computer runs better and boots up faster without all the windows bloat.
It also breathed new life into my parents computer, and they're tech-illiterate, retired, old people. They've had no issues with it so far.
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In case that convinced anyone to give it a try, here's my recommendations.
Think about what software on your computer you use. See if there's a Linux compatible alternative. Try that out, see if you can live with it. Do this before you ever even think about making a Linux USB.
Pick a Distro - here's where a lot of guides fall apart I think. I'll make it easy. If you're primarily a gamer, go ahead and choose bazzite. If you're looking for a general computer to browse the web, do your homework, etc. choose whichever flavor of Ubuntu (Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Kubuntu, etc.) or Linux Mint (which is ubuntu-based) looks prettiest to you. Don't think too hard about it, don't do too much research about the pros and cons of different desktop environments, don't listen to the people who have some moral and philosophical bones to pick about Ubuntu. Just go by vibes. It's stable, it works, it's about as well-supported and documented as it gets, and if you do have a problem, you'll find the answers in the Ubuntu forums without too much searching.
Put that on a flash drive, and just run off of that for a week or two. See if you can live with it. Bear in mind it will probably be a bit slower running off the flash drive than it will be once it's actually installed. Play around with it, you can't really break anything unless you purposely go rooting around in your windows hard drive and start deleting shit willi-nilly. If you absolutely hate it, just pull the flash drive out and forget about it.
If you decide you like it, take a deep breath and go ahead and install it.
My brother you’re in like the 99th percentile of computer users. The vast, vast majority of people can’t understand what a browser tab is, much less a motherboard.
Like, most linux user seems to not understand that just being able to boot to other OS is witchcraft to the general population. Most of my friends never even heard of Linux. Their phone is the computer.
Preach. Any thread remotely about operating systems turning into a "Fuck windows" Linux cicrclejerk is just annoying as fuck. I'm almost refusing to use Linux just to spite Lemmy.
And I'm well aware I'm a spiteful person, it's how I've survived 38 years, and I'm going to keep doing what I'm doing, it's worked out just fine!
There are very, very few things that Bazzite prevents you from doing. Usually they just have an alternative approach (e.g. in a Distrobox) to ensure the stability of the system.
Do you have anything concrete in mind? I don't feel like the atomic Fedora variants make it harder for me to mess with my computer once I've learned their approach.
Sure, that's fair, but then you shouldn't go around saying "those distributions make it harder to mess with your computer". Your criticism seems to instead be "I can't use the tooling and processes I already know", which again is fair, but definitely a separate issue.
You're going to have the same issue with any distribution that uses a different package manager, and it wouldn't be fair to e.g. Alpine to say "it makes it harder to mess with my system since I can't use apt or dnf".
Learning how to use a Linux distribution like Mint doesn’t require any special degree or knowledge. I’d say you can do that in a weekend or so. Especially since you can ask the AI about everything and it’s surprisingly good at Linux questions and terminal commands, although you don’t really need those for Mint.
If you’ve never been into Microslop Windows, navigating their piece of shit os can be equally as daunting since you are not free to do what you want, you can only do what MS want you to do which is completely counterintuitive to what Linux is.
Just because something is the market leader, doesn’t make it good or better than the alternative.
I get that you don’t care for Linux, and that’s fine but if you are the slightest interested in IT, you’re doing yourself a disservice not learning it.
I don’t think you know at all where I’m coming from. You don’t seem to understand how great AI are at documentation. I’d rather ask an AI than browse the mint forums reading decades old threads that won’t lead to anything anyways. That’s just wasting time. What’s your argument?
That's fine. If people want to work in an inefficient manner and waste time, I'm not gonna stop them. I will take advantage of AI and I'm happy to do so. It makes my job within IT easier and that's nice!
Do you ever click in to see more details? We used to have memes about stack overflow always having the answer to tech questions. Now we have ai summarizing stack overflow for us, but stack overflow no longer gets the activity to generate new answers, or even stay open.
You seem to think that stack overflow conatins all the answers to everything.
The AI can search and look through the web faster than any human on the planet, yes that includes stack overflow, but also forums and other open websites, anything that can be indexed basically.
Often times when you have an issue, it's very rare that you are the first one to have it, so I'd say all the info you need to solve it is already out there and AI do a fantastic job to help you find an answer to your problem quicker than your could ever do yourself. Why not take advantage?
Why not remove the search function from stack overflow, you could just read all the questions and articles yourself to find the most sutible one for your question. It's quite nice to have a server that can look though all questions available and suggest to you which ones are the best for you based on your search term. It's exacly that, but way borader. How is that not a good thing?
Stack overflow still had an amazing percentage of answers to tech question but of course it’s not the only source.
Realistically I used to use a search engine for answers and it was pretty good about discovering relevant answers. Usually I clicked a handful off links from the first page of results, evaluated them, and selected the answer
Now the search engine returns an ai summary of the top results. It’s a bit slower but sometimes I can just use that. Other times I may need to click into sources for more information or to evaluate what it’s telling me. The big difference is who does the first evaluation/summary. Originally the ai was slower and less accurate but it rapidly improved
But here’s the problem. The older approach meant I clicked into the source. If they relied on ads or tracking, they received their income to support themselves. If it’s a gamified community source, responders got their karma. It was sustainable. Now with the ai, no one visits the original site and no one has incentive to contribute more answers. The ai is rapidly improving at the cost of its own sources
Oh, I hate all of those because of all the murders they keep committing. Young and vulnerable people go to them looking for help with homework and end up being talked into isolation and suicide.
NFTs actually are an easy concept, a dollar bill is a Fungible Token, because all dollar bills are the same, you can change one for another and it all works out because both represent the same thing (one dollar). A deed to a house is not fungible, you can't just change one deed for a different one because they represent different things. NFTs are just that, Non Fungible Tokens, why some people wanted to own a digital token representing ownership of a publicly available digital image is what can't be explained.
Art is a tax deduction in the US. Say you have a tax liability of $10k, you buy $10k of Art and you can claim the value (not including sales cost) as a deduction.
Then after the tax year, you sell it to the next guy. As long as you sell for the same price, you pay that much less tax (that is, about 25% of the value less in tax).
Well an NFT is just Art without the hassle or expense of insurance or storage. It could be used as a tax deduction.
When the IRS ruled it was no longer eligible, the NFT market collapsed.
1: being something (such as money or a commodity) of such a nature that one part or quantity may be replaced by another equal part or quantity in paying a debt or settling an account
I actually love em. They've reverted back to the type of fucking stupid ass nonsensical comedy that in grew up with and I am here for it every day. Also, some of the fashion choices? I cannot understate how much I love ridiculous looking fashion. Bless those kids (but keep them the hell away from me).
It's funny ain't it? I know those older Gen Xers said the same shit about me and my generation, and here I am. I try to remind myself that. But sometimes the stupidity of these kids exceeds my abilities.
You're absolutely right, but sometimes I think back to my own stupidity as I came of age and am just incredibly thankful that the internet was such a different place. As such, society was more forgiving and our dumbassery faded into the anonymity of time.
That said, some things are really encouraging about the younger generations. They seem, as a whole, much more socially and environmentally conscious than I think many of us were. I meant my original comment in a "get off my lawn" kind of way (which I think you also understood and echoed), so as a more serious counterpoint to my original snark, "the kids are alright" if not all right.
Hobby Horsing. It really is a thing and it’s not something freaky deaky strange. It’s just kinda cringy & well why not ditch the pretend horse thing and just parkour? That there is another thing that I don’t care about.
I do enjoy the outtakes of parkour mishaps.
On second thought, if a highlight reel of Hobby Horsing accidents exists, I’d absolutely watch.
It could really be quite entertaining.
There is a dude on Instagram who has been doing "hobby Enduro" which is basically the same thing but with an Enduro bike stick thing between your legs. I've been following it for a while because it seems like it's ironic but it's starting to get to a point where idk if the guy still thinks it's a joke anymore.
I'm up voting because that's exactly what this thread is for
But man, do I think that's a stupid take.
I'm not gonna say you need to become a good swimmer and do it regularly with great form, or even enjoy doing it at all.
But I think everyone should learn at least how to do an acceptable doggy paddle, tread water, and float. Swimming should really be regarded as a basic life skill like basic first aid or knowing that you should get the hell out of a burning building.
Do you ever find yourself near any lakes or rivers, the ocean, swimming pools, etc? Walking along them, riding over them on a bridge in a car or train, etc. Then there's a chance you could end up in that water, and if you can't swim you stand a very real chance of dying, and possibly of dragging someone down with you if they jump in to help.
Hell, even if you don't live anywhere near a body of water, flash floods can happen in some pretty unlikely places, including in the middle of a desert.
Unless you have some physical disabilities that genuinely prevent you from swimming, you can probably get the basics down in less than an hour, then you can get out of the pool and hopefully never need to use those skills again if you really don't like it.
That opinion definitely fits this thread …. But I wanted to add that the college I went to is one of the few that still requires passing a swimming test for all incoming freshmen. It used to be considered an important life skill to at least not die if you end up in the water, but I guess most people don’t think that’s important anymore
Well, you don't have to be in water to learn the basics. If you have a chair you can lay down on your stomach and practice doing the paddling with your feet, and both the crawl/breaststroke movements until you feel confident that you do know them
Oh. I misunderstood. "Learn to swim" didn't read as a survival thing to me, I assumed it meant "swim quickly for sport" not "avoid drowning". I took it for granted not everyone knows how to do this.
Car stuff. My partner of 10 years is in the autobody industry and even that is a word I just recently learned to distinguish from the mechanics side of things. I don't drive, I don't care for any of it, I don't want to hear about it.
Ironically, my partner is the same way. He is in the industry because he's good at it and knowledgeable but he fucking hates car stuff and especially car nuts.
I’ve discovered the things I appreciate about car technology are very different from what “car guys” seem to like. Maybe it’s stereotype and the general dumbing down from the internet, but. Hobby I once thought cool now just seems ridiculous, dumb, inconsistent.
Not sure if I can think of any. I love understanding where people are coming from, and why they think something is interesting or important. That doesn't mean that I myself get into it, or share their opinion but I do like it when people are (happily) passionate about something and it's interesting to see what happens in their minds that makes it so. Like I don't care about sports, at all, but if someone is super excited to tell me about whatever sport they're into, I'll be happy to listen.
A bit harder if it's something they are angry about and think that I should be too - but I generally do understand why people work that way so I'll just draw a boundary if needed.
In general it can be tricky if people think that my interest in the mechanics of their interest must mean interest in the subject of their interest. But I suppose that's on me to be clearer about.
Interesting question.
Maybe the only thing that borders on something I don't care to get is straight up hate of anything one doesn't understand. It's just that I already sort of understand that but it's definitely not the angle of discussion I want to get into, it's usually just depressing.
I usually don't bring up things I don't get or care to get because inevitably someone chimes in to start elaborating about the topic anyway. Like they missed the part where I said, "I don't care."
One thing I don't care to get is actors/celebrity stuff. I have a touch of face-blindness as well as ADHD, so I haven't seen as many films as most people seem to have watched. When people bring up an actor and I tell them, "I don't know them and I don't care," it's like they feel compelled to start listing things the person was in regardless. Then I'm subject to a list of movies, none of which I've ever seen, all while they keep trying to trigger a memory in my brain that doesn't exist. No matter how many times I say, "I don't watch a lot of movies" or "I struggle to recognize novel faces," the same thing seems to happen 10 out of 10 times such a topic arises. It's so weird. I just want to move onto another topic. I don't know, I don't care, and nothing you say is going to spark recognition of some rando celebrity. Just let it go.
The main celebrities I'll be aware of are those who voice act. I'm an adult, but honestly I prefer animation. I can recognize a voice in a cartoon. Ah but the celebrity-fans don't usually recognize voice actors. Funny that. Maybe I should turn the tides next time by talking about Frank Welker's animal voices or something.
There are way too many things for me to be able to spend much time on them. Time is scarce and most of mien is already spend on a few of the things I'm interested in learning more about.
Linked: I tend to not express my opinion on topics I have no understanding of ;)
I can't comprehend how individuals or entire cultures choose to just deal with the pain until they build a tolerance.
Sure it probably made sense when the choice was to starve or to eat something that hurts (even a little), but as soon as non-painful food was available, why continue with the kind containing "Don't eat me!" chemicals?
I don't use seasonings that hurt. And literally can't imagine a flavor so good it would be worth that.
Everything I've had with even the slightest amount of capsaicin is something I thought would be much better without it. In extreme cases I can't even taste the normal flavors the food would have because the pain is a stronger sensation.
I've never understood that either - Is it different from say stubbing a toe or biting a tongue? (Not hard enough to do permanent damage) Those should release endorphins also, right?
It seems to me like people rarely hurt themselves on purpose except food and sex stuff, and the sex stuff appears to be uncommon.
I agree that flaming asshole level of heat is silly. But capsaicin activates heat receptors - people with less tolerance perceive it as pain but for those of us that can tolerate it, it’s more heat coupled with maybe just a little pain. Heat (or the perception of heat) can act as a flavor enhancer.
I like a little spice but don't get the people who are like "I'm ordering the flaming asshole wings. Boy, my asshole is going to be on fire tomorrow."
You know what I like? Not having a flaming asshole. We live in a world where food has a neverending variety of flavors. Get one of the many delicious flavors that don't involve scorching your asshole.
Every time I put a damn pepper in my mouth I'm like WHY the hell did I just do that? Now my mouth is hot, the food feels so warm I can't even eat and I hate all of you!! 1!1!! 1
I'm with you. And I don't mind some spice from time to time. In fact, I'll shill some Dirty Dicks here, absolutely the best hot sauce there is - because it has good flavor, which so much spice seems to forget. I'll eat with folks who are like "Tapatio on everything!" and I just wonder if they actually like the food they're eating, or just know that they can tolerate the spice, so anything carrying the spice is palatable.
video games have come a long way in the last few decades though. the variety of genre, play style, art style, etc. is absolutely astounding for someone that grew up playing bootleg games on a C64. There are some that are basically like an interactive movie, puzzle games, building games, and then your usual shooters and sports and mario-type platformers. If you ignore the AAA-slop, there's some really high quality content out there.
Don't be offended, I realize I'm the weirdo here, but they seem so pointless to be so time consuming. Entertainment in general is pointless, but I don't spend hundreds of hours watching a movie.
I'm not into TV either though, so maybe it's sitting still that I don't like.
Put on a movie and I’m asleep before the first scene is done.
I’m a tinkerer, need something to do with my hands and keep my mind occupied or I lose all interest. Video games often fill that but don’t feel useful in any way. They aren’t even a distraction from my real life, they’re just something to do I guess. Which isn’t what I like to do I guess
For me, video games have always been about "accomplishment," which is why I don't think I was ever into the battle royales and that ilk. Do it, win game, repeat. I liked games that you built up to stuff, longer, more difficult levels, that sort of thing. I also enjoyed racing cars in Forza, but that was almost a workout, squeezing the controller, it would get my heart racing. Platformers like Celeste did the same.
I used to enjoy sitting down and playing some shoot em ups with my buddies, but it was more social hour than the game.
Entertainment is a "social lubricant", so it's not entirely useless. A live show, a party, a sports game or a theater play are great for bringing people together and give them something common to talk about.
The problem is that a lot of the electronic entertainment (games, movies, series, internet) in the past 30 or so years has become fully individual.
When I was a child I played and really enjoyed AAA open world games with loads of collectibles like ACBF or Just cause 3.
Nowadays I enjoy rogue likes, story games and visual novels much more. It is less of a time sink and sometimes I really feel like I got value from it. Like insights into myself or reevaluating some beliefs.
Here are some story games I particularly enjoyed:
Citizen Sleeper
Epistory
DDLC
Novi News
Oxenfree
The wolf among us
Frostpunk: Last Autumn>New Home>Fall of winterhome>Refugees>Arks
Space science. I'm well educated with lots of nerdy friends, and I should know the basics of physics concerning planets and stuff. But I don't and I refuse to.
I actually like geology. But yeah, my main interest is moleculair biology. The thought that so many interesting things are happening in every cell of my body all the time just to keep me alive is so much more interesting to me than stars exploding.
Yes, I am also a molbio nerd. And yes, that stuff is built on actual chemical reactions and physical phenomena that you can demomstrate in the lab, and not theoretical physics
clarifying edit: the whole Disney meets Final Fantasy concept is just like peanut butter and pickles to me. I like (classic) FF, I don't hate Disney, but the two just do not go together. From the plot summaries and fan videos I've come across, it strikes me that whoever writes this stuff loves to set things up but never knows how to resolve them, so I think I'd end up hating it even if I did find the concept appealing.
Oh and the fact Sora got into Smash over Waluigi still burns.
Anything outdoors. Like I go on walks for exercise cause I don't like the gym, but if I wasn't trying to lose weight I wouldn't bother. Anytime I talk to someone and they wanna talk about nature, wild animals, plants, or outdoor sports (honestly sports in general can be added here) I just tune out.
AmericaUS. l I'm just done with them. I'd like it if they just STFU for a good long while. Leave everyone else alone while they implode themselves in the stupidest of ways.
Furries. No hate, just not even remotely interested.
And anime.
This would have been my top line comment. I wish anime wasn't such a glaring blind spot for me, because it's something so many people connect on. But I see it like reality TV. There's 1000 shows with 1000 episodes each, and some shows are probably great, but I've never been interested.
There are plenty with just one or two seasons and that’s it.
Reality TV or Anime? Cause either way, the medium just isn't my thing.
Sure, whatever. I’m just saying it’s a very broad cultural Japanese thing, and not just “hundreds of soap opera” episodes, or Naruto or whatever, I don’t even know myself. A lot of variety is what I’m saying.
It’s actually pretty interesting. I guess “the west” is kinda prejudiced about what anime really is.
No, I agree, and I'm not saying I dislike it for a good reason or even a vastly informed reason; I've watched a few, and they felt varied in content and style and tone (at least to me). I'm just saying sometimes it's as simple as "just don't like it". I don't like eggplant either; had it prepared a few different ways. I don't think it's that I just haven't found that magical preparation or mix of seasonings or whatever; just not a fan.
No judgment since I think many anime shows are not worth the time, but anime is just another medium, like books, more than anything. If there’s a genre of something you like on another medium, then there probably are some decent shows for that genre in anime.
Lots of anime is written with a specific audience in mind, such as the most well known anime shows being written for teens and young adults. Even more, most anime has a specific gendered audience as its target audience.
I personally didn’t care too much for anime until I watched some very high quality shows that pulled me more into the medium.
Yeah it just seems like a random style of cartoon to me, i dont get why ppl are obsessed w this one type. Im probably just too ignorant
I find the idea bwhind each show is more compelling and tends to be more mature to what the west peovides in the same (animated) genre.
You get the odd show like 'Invincible' that is more mature but they are way more rare than on the eastern entertainment domain.
Can't really say I have noticed much shows that are on the level of 'Avatar the last airbender' in western tv (and that alone is a controversial topic of if it's a western cartoon or more eastern in influence)
FLCL has like 6 episodes and is a good entry point
That is like pushing someone into the deep end of weird.
I know you're struggling to get into this genre, here try this story about a kid who grows a phallic unicorn horn from his forehead...
Yeah I was probably too young to grasp that when I first watched in ~2003. It was one of the first anime I watched with relatively adult themes, but was drawn in by the art style and music. The sexual overtones were lost on me.
FLCL is great, but it is pretty damned weird and better with knowledge of the material it parodies.
Cowboy Bebop is the entry point to anime. It's mostly episodic so there's no need for a huge time investment. You'll know if you're going to like it or not after an episode or two. The only problem is that it's so damned good, it's only downhill from there.
I'm kinda in this boat but I have a soft spot for anime that I grew up with in the 90s and early 2000's.
There's also some more recent stuff that's been generally OK, but I can never keep up with conversations about it because I'm just not in that sphere at all really.
Hit me with some Gen 1 Pokémon, Avatar: TLA or old Ghibli stuff and I'm waxing poetic instantly lol
I'm a furry and even I don't get most furries, haha!
Like, I'm here to be an animal. I heard "people who like to be animals" and went "whoa, sign me up!" and it turns out a lot of furries DON'T like to be animals, they just... pretend to be animals but "oh that's a character not really me" and they still consider themselves human...?... also they're only half-human-half-animals, not actual animal shape either?... I don't get it
turns out most of the actual "I'm just an animal" animals are the therians instead (once I found them I decided I'd be both). I'm still a non-character, non-anthropomorphic (the furry jargon for normal animal shape is "feral") furry though, and the anthro furries can just deal. :3
-- Frost
Owenfromcanada: I dont want to know anything about furrys
Forestbeast: super detailed descriptions of furry culture
This is hilarious. Don’t get me wrong, @[email protected] , I appreciate the details - a fascinating glimpse at something I didn’t know - but it’s funny timing with some of the other threads here
Haha yeah! :3 I uh, misread the critter I replied to as saying "I don't get it" rather than "I'm not even interested in getting it". Cue the massive infodump. >,,>
I'm not that sorry, though. It's still fun to talk about and also kinda hilarious that it happened.
-- Frost
I tend to do the same thing. "Well if you didn't want a half hour introduction to color theory, why did you ask an unrelated question?"
I... might have the tism...
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Nope! I'm a wolf! :3
I'm trans, but for species instead of gender. Yeah that's a thing. 🐺
-- Frost
I used to think that, but then I realized human brains are kind of a mess so if weird things happen it's fine as long as nobody's hurting themselves or someone else
If that's what they feel good for them, validity isn't a pie and more for a weird niche group isn't less for the rest
And if they're trolling you're failing responding to trolls 101
Sports culture. Betting, fantasy leagues, statistics. I immediately flatline if the conversation turns to it
Some folks get deep into D&D and build encyclopedic knowledge on estoric spell combos, some delve deep into trains, and some memorize how many lifetime touchdowns Joe Namath has. Dumb, but I understand it.
Its that reason why I say everyone is a nerd about something.
Yah, you may be talking to the former school jock/football star who was barely handed their diploma, but ask them about their sport/the industries around it. You will likely get a better lesson on statistics and managment that you can get out of most text books. (Assuming you can keep the conversation focused)
People usually like talking about their interests.
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with being into football, just like there's nothing wrong with not being into it. If you're an asshole about either of those things, that's a problem.
Meh, even that is different. One facilitates an activity YOU partake in. The other is an activity you watch others do. Obsessing over how well grown men perform at children's games is odd. Structuring your weekend around observing other people exercise while you sit on the couch...is weird.
I don't drive a train though???
But they don't scream at you and call you a weirdo if you say you're not interested.
Same here. And it used to cripple me during meetings, and basic conversations with coworkers. I’ve worked in sales, construction, and inventory management and the sports convos were inescapable and apparently a huge key to relating to customers and colleagues.
Just could never get into it, and not the type to fake it either. Unless I’m playing the sport, I could give a fuck less about others who I do not and will not ever know playing a sport.
Streamer culture and Vtuber culture.
Some aspects of streamer culture I get, I do not understand vtuber culture. Youtube started recommending one to me because apparently played a video game I like and watch videos about, and...as far as I can tell her job is to be professionally sexually harassed. Like, men used to whistle at showgirls in saloons, now they throw virtual acorns at anime girls to "nut on" them.
Fun part is her mom apparently found out, and participates.
I almost feel bad for laughing at this.
vtubers are just ugly people. they know they won't get as many views if they showed their real face, so they use an avatar.
Why are people down voting this?
Because it's blatantly wrong. Many high profile vtubers have had their faces on stream or leaked and they are usually average to way above average looks and often get more views on their IRL content. I am sure some are ugly, but claiming it as a primary reason as if all vtubers have image issues is provably false.
Because we are all just tubes of meat and, barf.
This is how I know I’m old now; what little I’ve ever seen or read seems utterly stupid and vapid to me. “Oh, just watch Flimdiflub6g for 1 hour, you’ll get it!” No, no I don’t think I will.
Oh, looks like I found mine.
I know nothing about both but since I suspect vtubbbing brached from anime subcultures I kinda get why they did.
Streamer though, I weirdly should be their demographic but I'm not.
I'm an avid gamer, I follow youtuber since vlog brother/smosh era, so I witness Pewds rise to fame but never find any joy in watching it live.
Like SovietWomble, his bullshitery series is top notch entertainment, I've rewatched the Arma and CS series multiple time, despite never played either one. Still didn't like watching it live.
I think because it's similar with the one with celebrities. I just don't care with the parasocial aspect of it.
I can count the number of streamers I'm a fan of on three fingers, and the number of Vtubers I can even name on one
I have no idea what the difference between those labels are.
Vtubers are people pretending to be anime girls
Vagina tubers?
I was gonna make a comment about the differences before I realized I couldn't tell you the difference between them outside of how they choose to represent themselves.
Vtubers are a subset of streamers, they are subject to all the same drama and content. People just like to separate them because, similar to anime, there are many people who watch vtubers but don't watch other streamers.
I don't watch the streams or vods but the clips are funny/entertaining
Why people are infatuated with celebrities.
Same reason people like watching TV dramas. It's escapism. They get to vicariously live someone else's more colourful life - or are glad they're not living the celebrity's real or acted horrible life - for a short while to get away from their own.
And anyone on a screen is usually better-looking as well, which is a big draw.
This is a really fair way to put it. I can't understand it personally, but I read fantasy books to escape the real world, and I tell anyone I can that I read fiction only because I live in the real world and I've had enough of its shit. So appreciate your shedding some light on it, because I certainly didn't understand it (celebrity nonsense). Still don't, but maybe I will soon.
That's a fascinating subject IMO.
Like there is a king/celeb/hero/... hole in ther mind they just must fill.
Lifestyle channels and blogs. This type of content is often very consumeristic. Unless it’s in an educational/informative context, I don’t have an interest in watching strangers have experiences that I could be having myself.
Thats why I dont watch porn.
I only watch educational/informative porn
Student: Is there any way I can get an A on my test Professor?? Professor: Take your clothes off.
So the Discovery Channel?
Fashion
Religion. Even when I've taken the time to look up the difference is between a Catholic and a Christian, or a Shia and a Sunni, it seems like within minutes at most, that knowledge just sublimates.
Not sure if the error was intentional to make the point that you don't care, but Catholics are the largest denomination of Christianity, rather than an alternative to it.
The Dutch make a distinction between Catholic and Christian.
looks surprised
goes to check Dutch Wikipedia
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katholicisme
Using Google Translate to convert the overview to English, I get:
That sounds like they're classifying it the same way I'd normally see it in the English-speaking world.
I'm talking about the Dutch, not academics and Wikipedia article writers. When someone is talking about someone who is "Christelijk" they mean protestant.
I'm from New Jersey and we all make a very big distinction between Catholicism and Christian. And lots of us were raised Catholic around here, and Christians all seem to be late-in-life converts, at least where I'm from. And I'm a typical nothinger now, but I'd take Catholicism and it's bullshit (not kid touching) over what I've experienced with the Christians around here, never met a faker bunch of people.
It's appel vs fruit. There are lots of types of christianity, chatolicism is a type of christianity.
Maybe more to mean like the original belief vs the now off-spring?
denomination
Yeah, thats what I thought
Zeus is the most important but he sucks. Poseidon is in charge of the sea and he really likes sinking ships. Hades is in charge of you when you're dead. Artemis and Athena are both aroace, but Artemis like platonic bathing with her besties while Athena prefers maps. Everyone hates Ares but not as much as Hephaestus, Hera will kill you if you cheat on your wife, and Hestia and Dionysus can't agree which one is more important. Some people say Persephone is a victim, but the truth is she's ruled the underworld a lot longer than her husband has. Demeter is not supportive.
My favorite thing about Christianity is how all the different sects pretend that every other sect isn't actually Christian
Amen brother.
Usually how those divisions occurred is much more interesting.
I'm fascinated that certain ideas have persisted over millennia and curious what it is about them that has captured minds so consistently. Religion, but more broadly spirituality, seems to have a constant presence throughout human conciousness and that is quite remarkable.
Think of it in terms of gladiator movies, the crusades, the fall of Rome. That shit is history, knights in armor, clash of cultures, and is full of drama as game of thrones
Tiktok and ai chatbots.
Tiktok and most kinds of short form content for me. I have a few friends into Tiktok and I'm sure it's fun but I just don't care to check it out.
I've tried to see what the appeal of short form content is. Twitter, mastodon, and bluesky have all ended up being a shitty RSS feed interrupted by the opinions of strangers for me. Now I'm just over trying to get it. It's just another weird ass thing that tonnes of people are into.
Cricket.
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I think it's funnier if I just never attempt to "get it"
23 skidoo daddy-o!
What's to get? Not a lot of depth if any to any of these. Like someone huffed glue and laughing at a fly on a wall.
You know what's funnier than 24 Patrick ?
It has gotten almost impossible to find a practical pickup truck. they're all giant penis enhancent vehicles.
Ugh, yes everything seems to be a four door and way too tall.
I wish El Camino type low cars with beds made a comeback.
Same, think there are like 2 available but I'd want electric which doesn't exist at all. Had an el camino as my first car and other than the lack of heat it was great.
Other than American pickups, the rest of them have stayed relatively reasonable sized. Toyota Hilux, Mitsubishi L200, Isuzu D-Max, Volkswagen Amarok, Ford Ranger, Nissan Navara, Mercedes X-Class ... There's plenty to choose from.
The Toyota Hilux Workmate is a great ute in Australia. A lot of Hilux's are still big wank tanks.
BUT I NEED A ROOM FOR ALL MY PRECIOUS MOMENTS FIGURINES!!!
Hmm...
I'd argue against houses/living space (what is reasonable) but the other stuff: Yeah.
Example:
I'd like a living space with 3-4 rooms with a nice garden.
Do I need that much when I could suffice with just 2? No.
Would I like to, to do my hobbies and interests? Yep
Much of the outrage culture online is rather foreign to me. It's not necessarily that I don't "get" it but I simply can't relate with the people who engage in it. Writing angry messages about certain people and events, having people pat me on the back for sharing views that they agree with and reading other people sharing these same same views just seems like some kind of fart smelling gathering which simply just doesn't appeal to me. It's all just meaningless noise. That kind of "conversation" could go on forever and it wouldn't ever achieve anything.
You've just described 95% of lemmy
Which is why my keyword-based list of content filters grows by the day. Trying to block the noise feels like a full-time-job sometimes.
“Can’t stop the signal, Mal.”
I straight up quit lemmy for almost a year due to people pushing stuff so hard where even unrelated communities weren't safe from anything and no one would care because c/all would act as one feed anyway. It really does feel like people want to be outraged for the sake of outraging rather than wanting to change something for the better while doing it at the cost of undermining what they wish to "protect".
Sup, I'm only here to get mad.
"FUCK Google" makes people feel relevant and involved which is pathetic.
The kardashian universe. I’ve never seen an ep, don’t know their names or whatever the fuck they do or say. As a 30 year old woman I feel like a unicorn not knowing shit about fuck when it comes to that whole thing.
Good for you - seriously, are you single?
LMAO! I’m married and now basically live the life of a 95 year old legit couldn’t be happier. Never had an instagram either. I don’t wanna get caught up in that shit.
Anything that goes against Common sense or sciene.
Especially the latter. Most stuff is undrstandable by school knowledge. But they choose to Not believe that. I Just cannot get it.
Oh. Thats an interesting Point of View. Thanks for Sharing!
Sports
Sports are fine when you do them. Watching strangers perform is quite uninteresting.
I had a thought while watching the Winter Olympics recently. Perhaps the Olympic Committee could send an every day hobbyist first. As sort of an OMG this course is bonkers. Just watch. Let’s say we take the type of skier hitting the Giant Slalom with nothing but some apres ski big talk & bragging of mogul crushing skills and let the poor mf’er do a gravity and inertia display? I’d watch. Then, the Olympic athletes would showcase their passion, skills & talented dedication towards this common sought goal.
Greed. Ignorance. Intolerance.
Your workout, food, or personal hygiene regimen.
Exploitation, expropriation, or extortion.
Your subjective experience of opening a box, playing a video game, or viewing media.
Whatever the newest slang is, the only exception is if I want to embarrass some kids by using it wrong
And a good skidibi toilet to you, sir
Have a 6 7 my dent
Streaming gaming. I barely game (almost never), so the idea of watching others do it as entertainment is bizzare to me.
I'm cleary in a minority, my kids do it and I'm told it's akin to watching sports, but whatever - i'm just answering the question Goddamit!
don't really understand spectator sports either
I've always felt like the wrong sports are popular (both to participate in and to watch)
Since the Olympics were on recently, I found myself watching a lot of luge, skeleton, etc. That looks like a fucking blast.
A well put-together marching band or drum corps show is something to behold.
Once in a while you can find a lumberjack competition - log rolling, 2 person crosscut saws, climbing trees with an axe, etc.
But instead of cool stuff like that, we want to watch people fight over a ball.
So the basic question is what’s your reason for watching?
I also think luge looks like a blast … to do. I’ll watch it during the Olympics to bring back childhood memories of sledding. But I can’t imagine watching it in general. There’s no teamwork, no visible skill, no scores, and you can’t see the whole course. All you really have for the spectator is the finishing time and slo-mo instant replay. I’m not saying it doesn’t take skill, of course it does, I’m saying it doesn’t manifest in a visible way for a spectator to appreciate.
There are a few reasons why I'll watch a stream or let's play of a video game:
the sports angle. If you like to play a game, be it basketball or A Link to the Past, watching someone else play it extremely well can be gratifying.
Additional performance. Streamers themselves are characters, watching someone react to the game can be compelling in a way that's difficult to describe.
Rediscovery. Watching someone play a video game I know well can help me see it through fresh eyes. I can never play A Link to the Past for the first time again, but watching someone play it for the first time can help revisit that experience.
I'd like to add to 2.
Some games streamers play, I wouldn't enjoy myself, but watching them play it and add to it makes it fun.
I'll watch a lets play of games I play to get new ideas for play style or if I am not understanding a mechanic, or even just to learn how to play in the first place if the tutorial sucks
It reminds me of being a young man smoking bongs on my friends couch while he plays GTA3. I'd still prefer to watch a friend play a game in person but there's less time for that these days.
Celebrities, French language
French was my only choice for a second foreign language in school and I hated it. Such a weird language. They need a writing reform. Bordeaux is just comically bad. English could use a writing reform as well.
I'm blaming the French when English needs a reform. Much of the language is stolen French, with the diabolical inherent spelling traps, the other reason reform is required is the halting of the vowel change, which is why some words, though written the same, sound different - one example: though (tho) and bough (bau).
Can't see it happening to be honest.
Yes but a lot is also language change. Knight for example was just spoken with a K and a fricative at that time and place. The writing just wasn't adapted to the changes in speech.
True, true.
Never forget 1066.
Heey I live there!
Can you deny it though?
Oiseaux !
We keep it that way purposely to annoy the English speakers, so that we can make fun of you.
Oh it's not annoying me. I just don't want to learn see or speak the language. Since I moved a little further from the French border that is much easier.
The French language exists purely so that there can be English speaking with a French accent.
Six seven
I just gonna TLDR my list:
I hear ya, especially on #3.
Short form content that isn't a to the point tutorial.
Hell, on that note, tutorial videos where the person rambles on and on and on before finally showing you what to do. I came for a tutorial on how to do something and not a blog!
Linux. I don’t want “using the computer” to turn into a hobby that I need a computer science degree for.
That's one of the reasons I switched from Windows to Linux.
Every single patch and every single version upgrade made using worse as all the settings changed weirder and weirder and hidden or missing.
Yes, I have less issues that needs to be fixed, or tweaked on Linux than on Winslop. Less popups that appear out of nowhere, and no forced upgrades while being on the toilet
Yeah, I just have a tough time believing you guys, from my limited experience with Linux, but also from many others here who seem to be Linux users, but can appreciate why others don't use it. Folks talking about updates bricking peripherals and whatnot. It's something that has literally never happened to me in the last 30+ years I've been Windowsing.
If Linux users could stop being so hyperbolic in their superiority, it might entice me to try it out. Windows isn't some unusable shit and everyone knows it. It's had its issues since day one. And to suggest Linux is just this set it and forget it OS is preposterous. Let's all be real.
FYI, we're actually substantially downplaying how superior Linux is.
That's part of the message we're trying to share, now that it is ready. You're allowed to use Linux as a shit-free alternative to Windows. For some people, that is enough.
But that's barely skimming the surface of all the cool shit happening on Linux today.
There's so many options for Linux though. Mint is super beginner friendly and doesn't focus on the terminal. You don't have to set up Arch your first time around.
Thank you for confirming that, yes, we are on lemmy.
Lol, touché.
Which one is "literally just legally distinct windows 10"?
Anything with the KDE desktop!
That's a neat thing about Linux, the look and feel is actually totally separate from the distro. Everyone focuses on distros when really, that's mostly under-the-hood stuff, the look and feel is the desktop environment.
KDE is windows-10-like (out of the box, you can also rearrange the crap out of it, ours is set up more like Mac!) and also happens to be one of the most full-featured desktop environments, so you won't be missing stuff (like HDR support or whatever).
So, a distro with KDE.
Debian is great if you want something that Does Not Break on you. Ever. It will never throw you a curveball with an update. That also means you just won't really get updates very much, outside of a Big Major Upgrade every couple of years. If you're tired of Windows Update screwing with you, Debian's perfect.
Fedora is pretty good if you want the new shinies all the time. Major updates every 6 months. Debian has a bigger appstore and even stuff that isn't in there often provides .deb packages, which Fedora can't run, but it's not a huge deal.
Mint doesn't have a convenient KDE version (but you can install KDE after the fact). It has its own desktop called Cinnamon. More Windows 7 vibes. It's based on Debian so you get the Debian compatibility, as well, and they put work into making sure you have GUI apps for stuff like installing drivers (Debian you might need a terminal command or three during initial setup).
There's also immutable distros like Bazzite, which is basically SteamOS But Desktop. It also comes with similar restrictions to SteamOS, though. Good for an Appliance Computer, an absolute fucking pain if you ever need to install drivers/VR stuff/other system software or what-have-you. I'd avoid for your main computer.
-- Frost
It looks like debian with KDE would be worth looking at. How do I obtain this?
Edit: Oh it's free, I just googled it and it came up.
My least favorite thing about Linux is that I can't pirate it
It's recommended to run a ‘live usb’ first to see if there are any problems with hardware compatibility. Nowadays many distros have their installers as live usbs anyway, but idk about Debian.
Debian is weird in even having non-live ISOs, but they do have various live ones with different desktops! (Don't grab the one from the homepage, grab one of the live ones instead.)
I see the model of ‘burn seven dvds to then have every package under the sun’ is alive and well.
Yeah! https://www.debian.org/CD/live/, the little teeny "live KDE" link. =^.^=
You don't want the "netinst" ISO on the main page. It technically works, but it's a pain to use and needs internet access to install. Its only redeeming quality is the small download size and fitting on a CD (if you're burning it to a CD-R which is unlikely).
I just installed Debian with Plasma, and have been using a system with Mint and Plasma as my daily driver for a few months now. I used the default Cinnamon for about a year. Plasma is definitely way more polished and allows almost everything to be done via menus which is NOT a given with most Linux things. It does work most of the time but expect to run into some basic task you didn't even think about on Windows and having a frustrating experience chasing solutions to untangle how to do it.
I'm never going back to Windows but the amount of times I've had to do something convoluted to attempt something you'd think would be easy is too damn high.
Haha. I often forget to mention that part!
A ton of really good software is also free. I found the hardest part was choosing which software was right for me.
You've just lost 90 percent of the population. They didn't understand a word you said. That's the problem with Linux and its developers. They assume people know all this stuff.
I mean, I could just go "TLDR grab Debian's live KDE edition" if that's easier!
The whole point in me explaining all that is that people don't know all this stuff. That's why I'm explaining it. I did gloss over the fact that distros exist, but it seems like the person I'm replying to already knows that multiple versions of Linux are a thing so that's not a huge issue.
And going "here's some options to pick from" helps if it turns out you've got different priorities than we do. But yeah, "TLDR Debian" is also good if you're overwhelmed.
I'm out of touch, not stupid. I understood them just fine.
@starlinguk @forestbeasts meh... he wanted to give you all the info and all the options,, that may be confusing for someone that only option was windows until now... Nowadays I dont give options, just try Kubuntu and see if you like it.
I can't ever tell what is critical to people. I got my wife her first MacBook last year. She's used it three times and hates it. I'm like.... red yellow green, and everything else is just like iPhone. Nope, she despises it.
I moved my daughter from windows to Linux Mint, and she barely noticed. She can't use her VR the same way, and that was the only difference that bothered her.
So I can't say you wouldn't hate Linux, but I can tell you I don't want my hobby to be fucking with OSes and Mint was perfect. You can just use it. Steam games, browsing the web, damn near everything works exactly the way you'd expect on Windows. I don't happen to need a second computer after my work MacBook, but if I did it would be Linux for sure.
Well, except no OneDrive. Which another point in Linux's favor.
For the Mac, I’ve had opposite experiences thanks to all of y’all online. Both my ex and my youngest kid wanted Mac’s, but I was the one cautioning that they may be popular but they’re different and some people don’t like that. He wouldn’t even try mine: I have windows, Mac and an assortment of Linux he can just try at any time
Jokes on me, I spent a ridiculous amount of money buying my kid a school Windows laptop (with him there apparently not speaking up) since that’s all he’s ever used, and I had to return it for a Mac
Don't take anything I've said as being anti-Mac. I am much happier to be on Mac than Windows. I would be happy on Linux as well, perhaps happier, but the corporate world being what it is, it turns out Linux doesn't make it easy to load a computer up with a bunch of spyware.
Okay, I'll be fair. Windows and MacOS are like... 3 things (If you still support Mac on Intel). Linux is like.... 500 OSes. Even if you strip it down and support the most common, you're looking at Arch (so customized that might as well be a separate OS for each user), Ubuntu, Fedora, and maybe Mint. So it's way more work to support Linux even if Linux were as easy to support as Mac and Windows, and I believe it is not.
I'm very happy with my Mac. But my wife hates things that change. She's one of those people who will hang onto a 15 year old laptop because "everything is the way I want it," even if it's all janky as hell.
I put Ubuntu on my MacBook a few weeks ago.
What kind of VR setup are you using?
I've been successfully using SteamVR on atomic Fedora. If she also uses SteamVR, I'd be happy to write details about my setup (though it's fairly standard)!
I think so. She has an oculus 2 and she is trying to connect wirelessly to Steam VR. I haven't really tried myself for a couple of years. It used to work fine on windows, at least wired. Wireless never worked that well for me.
I never got it to work in Linux but I haven't tried in a couple of years and I assume it's gotten better since then.
I'd say here we go making os a hobby, but it took some effort in windows, too.
Ah, I haven't used wireless VR yet, so I can't comment on that. Planning to wait for the Steam Frame, I'm sure Valve will make it work well enough. There is a project called ALVR that I keep reading about in the context of wireless VR on Linux, might be something to look at if you wanna dig deeper.
I'd argue that my setup allows you to not treat the OS as a hobby, but your mileage may vary :) I'm using an atomic Fedora variant (specifically Aurora, which is focused on developers - but there's also e.g. Silverblue (Gnome) or Kinoite (KDE) as normal day-to-day versions, and Bazzite which focuses on gaming). Steam is running through Flatpak, and everything else - SteamVR & the games themselves - honestly just worked for me. Sometimes SteamVR shows an error after starting, in that case I have to quit, unplug my headset for a few seconds, plug it back in & start SteamVR again, but other than that it's been a fairly painless experience.
I should mention that I use a Valve Index, but as long as you're using SteamVR, things should work the same.
A good reason why I don't want to "get" Linux is this guy posted in this thread with Linux as his example, and it's the most replied to thread with each user trying to justify their distro.
This is like me going into a bible belt small town, expressing my spiritual beliefs, and watching as each of the individual churches try to try and "save" me.
Until Linux users "get" why Windows is the marketshare leader and not demonize it like the spawn of Satan when it's literally just an OS on a completely optional piece of hardware, I don't think I'll ever "get" Linux.
Though I do care very much for Android if that counts. 😉
You don't have to tell people you use Linux or talk to them about it. I know that because I use Zorin OS, which is a really modern feeling Linux distro with a slick user interface, that's perfect for people like you and I, who don't want to be bombarded with opinions on the "right" operating system and just want to use their computers in peace. You should totally switch!
I think a lot of Linux people really do more harm than good when they try to sell people on Linux. Some of it is because they wildly overestimate how much the average person knows about computers, and some of it is just over sharing.
I've been using Linux for about half a year now. I'm a slightly above-average computer user, but not some kind of programming prodigy. I've had one significant hiccup when I was first installing it, which you probably won't have because that was a weird quirk of my specific 10+ year old motherboard.
After that everything has pretty much been smooth sailing. 99% of my general computer use is exactly the same as on Windows (though to be fair, I've been big on free software for a long time so I was using stuff like libre office and gimp instead of Microsoft office and Photoshop already)
I haven't yet run into a steam game that won't run for me. One or two of them I had to add a launch option or choose a different proton version, and I figured that out by basically just googling "steam Linux game name" and a couple keywords about the problem I was having like "audio stuttering," and the first search result had the fix.
Some games even run better for me now (mostly they're about the same, some are very slightly worse)
If you use a lot of mods, they can be a bit of a pain in the ass to figure out how to get them running, but it's usually doable, and once you do it's done and you don't have to do it again.
If you rely on specific windows-only software, usually you can get it running with WINE. That does take some figuring-out. But again, once it's done, it's done.
And overall my computer runs better and boots up faster without all the windows bloat.
It also breathed new life into my parents computer, and they're tech-illiterate, retired, old people. They've had no issues with it so far.
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In case that convinced anyone to give it a try, here's my recommendations.
Think about what software on your computer you use. See if there's a Linux compatible alternative. Try that out, see if you can live with it. Do this before you ever even think about making a Linux USB.
Pick a Distro - here's where a lot of guides fall apart I think. I'll make it easy. If you're primarily a gamer, go ahead and choose bazzite. If you're looking for a general computer to browse the web, do your homework, etc. choose whichever flavor of Ubuntu (Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Kubuntu, etc.) or Linux Mint (which is ubuntu-based) looks prettiest to you. Don't think too hard about it, don't do too much research about the pros and cons of different desktop environments, don't listen to the people who have some moral and philosophical bones to pick about Ubuntu. Just go by vibes. It's stable, it works, it's about as well-supported and documented as it gets, and if you do have a problem, you'll find the answers in the Ubuntu forums without too much searching.
Put that on a flash drive, and just run off of that for a week or two. See if you can live with it. Bear in mind it will probably be a bit slower running off the flash drive than it will be once it's actually installed. Play around with it, you can't really break anything unless you purposely go rooting around in your windows hard drive and start deleting shit willi-nilly. If you absolutely hate it, just pull the flash drive out and forget about it.
If you decide you like it, take a deep breath and go ahead and install it.
My brother you’re in like the 99th percentile of computer users. The vast, vast majority of people can’t understand what a browser tab is, much less a motherboard.
https://xkcd.com/2501/
It do be like that.
Like, most linux user seems to not understand that just being able to boot to other OS is witchcraft to the general population. Most of my friends never even heard of Linux. Their phone is the computer.
Windows is that as well.
Preach. Any thread remotely about operating systems turning into a "Fuck windows" Linux cicrclejerk is just annoying as fuck. I'm almost refusing to use Linux just to spite Lemmy.
And I'm well aware I'm a spiteful person, it's how I've survived 38 years, and I'm going to keep doing what I'm doing, it's worked out just fine!
Haha. Fair enough.
But also, fuck Windows though. Really. Microslop could have made a good OS, they have in the past.
Today, they're just choosing not to.
Bazzite is super easy to use and sets everything up for you.
I don't like using it because it doesn't allow you to mess with your computer as much as I like to, but that makes it perfect for normal people.
There are very, very few things that Bazzite prevents you from doing. Usually they just have an alternative approach (e.g. in a Distrobox) to ensure the stability of the system.
I mean it doesn't allow you to mess with your computer at easily as I like to.
Do you have anything concrete in mind? I don't feel like the atomic Fedora variants make it harder for me to mess with my computer once I've learned their approach.
I didn't want to learn their approach, I just wanted to install a software.
Sure, that's fair, but then you shouldn't go around saying "those distributions make it harder to mess with your computer". Your criticism seems to instead be "I can't use the tooling and processes I already know", which again is fair, but definitely a separate issue.
You're going to have the same issue with any distribution that uses a different package manager, and it wouldn't be fair to e.g. Alpine to say "it makes it harder to mess with my system since I can't use
aptordnf".Now I'm on Arch, where learning is fun
Learning how to use a Linux distribution like Mint doesn’t require any special degree or knowledge. I’d say you can do that in a weekend or so. Especially since you can ask the AI about everything and it’s surprisingly good at Linux questions and terminal commands, although you don’t really need those for Mint.
If you’ve never been into Microslop Windows, navigating their piece of shit os can be equally as daunting since you are not free to do what you want, you can only do what MS want you to do which is completely counterintuitive to what Linux is.
Just because something is the market leader, doesn’t make it good or better than the alternative.
I get that you don’t care for Linux, and that’s fine but if you are the slightest interested in IT, you’re doing yourself a disservice not learning it.
I hear where you are coming from, but you just said "Use AI" on Lemmy. This should be fun 😁
I don’t think you know at all where I’m coming from. You don’t seem to understand how great AI are at documentation. I’d rather ask an AI than browse the mint forums reading decades old threads that won’t lead to anything anyways. That’s just wasting time. What’s your argument?
I didn't have one. I was asserting the idea that people were going to attack your post for saying "Use AI."
That's fine. If people want to work in an inefficient manner and waste time, I'm not gonna stop them. I will take advantage of AI and I'm happy to do so. It makes my job within IT easier and that's nice!
Do you ever click in to see more details? We used to have memes about stack overflow always having the answer to tech questions. Now we have ai summarizing stack overflow for us, but stack overflow no longer gets the activity to generate new answers, or even stay open.
You seem to think that stack overflow conatins all the answers to everything. The AI can search and look through the web faster than any human on the planet, yes that includes stack overflow, but also forums and other open websites, anything that can be indexed basically.
Often times when you have an issue, it's very rare that you are the first one to have it, so I'd say all the info you need to solve it is already out there and AI do a fantastic job to help you find an answer to your problem quicker than your could ever do yourself. Why not take advantage?
Why not remove the search function from stack overflow, you could just read all the questions and articles yourself to find the most sutible one for your question. It's quite nice to have a server that can look though all questions available and suggest to you which ones are the best for you based on your search term. It's exacly that, but way borader. How is that not a good thing?
Stack overflow still had an amazing percentage of answers to tech question but of course it’s not the only source.
Realistically I used to use a search engine for answers and it was pretty good about discovering relevant answers. Usually I clicked a handful off links from the first page of results, evaluated them, and selected the answer
Now the search engine returns an ai summary of the top results. It’s a bit slower but sometimes I can just use that. Other times I may need to click into sources for more information or to evaluate what it’s telling me. The big difference is who does the first evaluation/summary. Originally the ai was slower and less accurate but it rapidly improved
But here’s the problem. The older approach meant I clicked into the source. If they relied on ads or tracking, they received their income to support themselves. If it’s a gamified community source, responders got their karma. It was sustainable. Now with the ai, no one visits the original site and no one has incentive to contribute more answers. The ai is rapidly improving at the cost of its own sources
Mint has an AI? Wow, now I hate Mint
lol no. That's now what I said at all. I was refering to chatgpt, claude of what ever flavour of AI you wanna use...
Oh, I hate all of those because of all the murders they keep committing. Young and vulnerable people go to them looking for help with homework and end up being talked into isolation and suicide.
-American health insurance
-High level maths
-American taxes
Cars. I drive them, but I leave the technology to the professionals.
Same. I'll go as far as changing a wheel when I have a flat, but that's pretty much it.
Otherwise, I can lift the bonnet and go "yep, that's an engine" quite convincingly.
Yeah, if there isn't an unconnected hose or cable, that's about the extent of my car knowledge.
It takes up a third of your income but you have no interest in it ?
Why would I waste a third of my income on a car? If push comes to shove, it may be between 5 and 8%.
I thought I was the only one.
I studied computers down to the transistor level. I know many of the different cells in the immune cascade. I've researched child psychology.
But ask me to explain what a car's transmission is and the only thing in my brain is dial-up tones...
Golf
American paranoia that everyone cares what they wack off to.
Starbucks specialty coffees, just go to Dairy Queen already and get out of my line.
At first I thought you were talking about whacking off to golf
Whatever helps you concentrate on your stroke, I guess.
NFTs. I'm too old for that nonsense
NFTs actually are an easy concept, a dollar bill is a Fungible Token, because all dollar bills are the same, you can change one for another and it all works out because both represent the same thing (one dollar). A deed to a house is not fungible, you can't just change one deed for a different one because they represent different things. NFTs are just that, Non Fungible Tokens, why some people wanted to own a digital token representing ownership of a publicly available digital image is what can't be explained.
It's a form of tax avoidance.
Art is a tax deduction in the US. Say you have a tax liability of $10k, you buy $10k of Art and you can claim the value (not including sales cost) as a deduction.
Then after the tax year, you sell it to the next guy. As long as you sell for the same price, you pay that much less tax (that is, about 25% of the value less in tax).
Well an NFT is just Art without the hassle or expense of insurance or storage. It could be used as a tax deduction.
When the IRS ruled it was no longer eligible, the NFT market collapsed.
fungible
adjective fun·gi·ble ˈfən-jə-bəl
1: being something (such as money or a commodity) of such a nature that one part or quantity may be replaced by another equal part or quantity in paying a debt or settling an account
Thanks, I've corrected the post
Honestly nothing. It's almost like a compulsion, where I feel like if I ignore something I'm a bad person.
It's nice to know I'm not alone in this feeling. Good luck and try not to be too self critical.
Kids these days
I actually love em. They've reverted back to the type of fucking stupid ass nonsensical comedy that in grew up with and I am here for it every day. Also, some of the fashion choices? I cannot understate how much I love ridiculous looking fashion. Bless those kids (but keep them the hell away from me).
They don't have respect. They just talk on those cell phones, and listen to their tape cassettes...
It's funny ain't it? I know those older Gen Xers said the same shit about me and my generation, and here I am. I try to remind myself that. But sometimes the stupidity of these kids exceeds my abilities.
You're absolutely right, but sometimes I think back to my own stupidity as I came of age and am just incredibly thankful that the internet was such a different place. As such, society was more forgiving and our dumbassery faded into the anonymity of time.
That said, some things are really encouraging about the younger generations. They seem, as a whole, much more socially and environmentally conscious than I think many of us were. I meant my original comment in a "get off my lawn" kind of way (which I think you also understood and echoed), so as a more serious counterpoint to my original snark, "the kids are alright" if not all right.
Hobby Horsing. It really is a thing and it’s not something freaky deaky strange. It’s just kinda cringy & well why not ditch the pretend horse thing and just parkour? That there is another thing that I don’t care about. I do enjoy the outtakes of parkour mishaps. On second thought, if a highlight reel of Hobby Horsing accidents exists, I’d absolutely watch. It could really be quite entertaining.
Stick with me here, Hobby Jousting.
I am so down for this.
There is a dude on Instagram who has been doing "hobby Enduro" which is basically the same thing but with an Enduro bike stick thing between your legs. I've been following it for a while because it seems like it's ironic but it's starting to get to a point where idk if the guy still thinks it's a joke anymore.
Ok guys you got me. This is fascinating. Does the enduro guy have to make bike sounds with his mouth?
You & I both know damn well that he does.
Our neighbors three year old plays like that too.
I never learned how to swim and I don't particularly care to learn
Must be a sailor
I'm up voting because that's exactly what this thread is for
But man, do I think that's a stupid take.
I'm not gonna say you need to become a good swimmer and do it regularly with great form, or even enjoy doing it at all.
But I think everyone should learn at least how to do an acceptable doggy paddle, tread water, and float. Swimming should really be regarded as a basic life skill like basic first aid or knowing that you should get the hell out of a burning building.
Do you ever find yourself near any lakes or rivers, the ocean, swimming pools, etc? Walking along them, riding over them on a bridge in a car or train, etc. Then there's a chance you could end up in that water, and if you can't swim you stand a very real chance of dying, and possibly of dragging someone down with you if they jump in to help.
Hell, even if you don't live anywhere near a body of water, flash floods can happen in some pretty unlikely places, including in the middle of a desert.
Unless you have some physical disabilities that genuinely prevent you from swimming, you can probably get the basics down in less than an hour, then you can get out of the pool and hopefully never need to use those skills again if you really don't like it.
That opinion definitely fits this thread …. But I wanted to add that the college I went to is one of the few that still requires passing a swimming test for all incoming freshmen. It used to be considered an important life skill to at least not die if you end up in the water, but I guess most people don’t think that’s important anymore
I don't need to learn to swim, I have thalassophobia. My plan if I ever fall into deep water is to die from a heart attack before I drown
I love that two people felt the need to down vote you for this.
I am number three, it is quite easy to learn and it can save your life.
I'm scared to learn. Mostly because of trauma.
Edit: I just remembered this clip from the movie WarGames and I relate.
Well, you don't have to be in water to learn the basics. If you have a chair you can lay down on your stomach and practice doing the paddling with your feet, and both the crawl/breaststroke movements until you feel confident that you do know them
I'll look into it. Thank you. I don't have the means to learn for real right now but I intend to one day. Hopefully it won't be so long.
Oh. I misunderstood. "Learn to swim" didn't read as a survival thing to me, I assumed it meant "swim quickly for sport" not "avoid drowning". I took it for granted not everyone knows how to do this.
The down votes are still funny.
I've spotted a devil fruit user.
Car stuff. My partner of 10 years is in the autobody industry and even that is a word I just recently learned to distinguish from the mechanics side of things. I don't drive, I don't care for any of it, I don't want to hear about it.
Ironically, my partner is the same way. He is in the industry because he's good at it and knowledgeable but he fucking hates car stuff and especially car nuts.
I’ve discovered the things I appreciate about car technology are very different from what “car guys” seem to like. Maybe it’s stereotype and the general dumbing down from the internet, but. Hobby I once thought cool now just seems ridiculous, dumb, inconsistent.
Not sure if I can think of any. I love understanding where people are coming from, and why they think something is interesting or important. That doesn't mean that I myself get into it, or share their opinion but I do like it when people are (happily) passionate about something and it's interesting to see what happens in their minds that makes it so. Like I don't care about sports, at all, but if someone is super excited to tell me about whatever sport they're into, I'll be happy to listen.
A bit harder if it's something they are angry about and think that I should be too - but I generally do understand why people work that way so I'll just draw a boundary if needed.
In general it can be tricky if people think that my interest in the mechanics of their interest must mean interest in the subject of their interest. But I suppose that's on me to be clearer about.
Interesting question.
Maybe the only thing that borders on something I don't care to get is straight up hate of anything one doesn't understand. It's just that I already sort of understand that but it's definitely not the angle of discussion I want to get into, it's usually just depressing.
I usually don't bring up things I don't get or care to get because inevitably someone chimes in to start elaborating about the topic anyway. Like they missed the part where I said, "I don't care."
One thing I don't care to get is actors/celebrity stuff. I have a touch of face-blindness as well as ADHD, so I haven't seen as many films as most people seem to have watched. When people bring up an actor and I tell them, "I don't know them and I don't care," it's like they feel compelled to start listing things the person was in regardless. Then I'm subject to a list of movies, none of which I've ever seen, all while they keep trying to trigger a memory in my brain that doesn't exist. No matter how many times I say, "I don't watch a lot of movies" or "I struggle to recognize novel faces," the same thing seems to happen 10 out of 10 times such a topic arises. It's so weird. I just want to move onto another topic. I don't know, I don't care, and nothing you say is going to spark recognition of some rando celebrity. Just let it go.
The main celebrities I'll be aware of are those who voice act. I'm an adult, but honestly I prefer animation. I can recognize a voice in a cartoon. Ah but the celebrity-fans don't usually recognize voice actors. Funny that. Maybe I should turn the tides next time by talking about Frank Welker's animal voices or something.
I don't care about anything an actor says unless it's preceeded by "Action!" and followed by, "Cut!".
Too many to list.
There are way too many things for me to be able to spend much time on them. Time is scarce and most of mien is already spend on a few of the things I'm interested in learning more about.
Linked: I tend to not express my opinion on topics I have no understanding of ;)
Chess theory. If i wanted to play against someone that knew all the best moves id play a chess robot
Spicy food.
I can't comprehend how individuals or entire cultures choose to just deal with the pain until they build a tolerance.
Sure it probably made sense when the choice was to starve or to eat something that hurts (even a little), but as soon as non-painful food was available, why continue with the kind containing "Don't eat me!" chemicals?
You don’t dive into the deep end of pain. You start with midline uncomfortable and work your way up.
But why though?
Why do you season things you cook? It’s delicious.
I don't use seasonings that hurt. And literally can't imagine a flavor so good it would be worth that.
Everything I've had with even the slightest amount of capsaicin is something I thought would be much better without it. In extreme cases I can't even taste the normal flavors the food would have because the pain is a stronger sensation.
Even a mild Jalepeno?
Especially those.
In some people it causes the body to releases enough internal happy drugs that it is worth the discomfort.
I've never understood that either - Is it different from say stubbing a toe or biting a tongue? (Not hard enough to do permanent damage) Those should release endorphins also, right?
It seems to me like people rarely hurt themselves on purpose except food and sex stuff, and the sex stuff appears to be uncommon.
I agree that flaming asshole level of heat is silly. But capsaicin activates heat receptors - people with less tolerance perceive it as pain but for those of us that can tolerate it, it’s more heat coupled with maybe just a little pain. Heat (or the perception of heat) can act as a flavor enhancer.
I like a little spice but don't get the people who are like "I'm ordering the flaming asshole wings. Boy, my asshole is going to be on fire tomorrow."
You know what I like? Not having a flaming asshole. We live in a world where food has a neverending variety of flavors. Get one of the many delicious flavors that don't involve scorching your asshole.
it's not painful to people who have a natural tolerance to it
I guess if that's really a genetic thing and not learned then it makes sense, but that isn't the impression I've gotten.
I've definitely met people who physically cannot tolerate spicy food, but then I'll go and eat the exact same thing and think it's quite pleasant.
obviously I'm not calling you a liar, but I've definitely seen it happen
Every time I put a damn pepper in my mouth I'm like WHY the hell did I just do that? Now my mouth is hot, the food feels so warm I can't even eat and I hate all of you!! 1!1!! 1
I'm with you. And I don't mind some spice from time to time. In fact, I'll shill some Dirty Dicks here, absolutely the best hot sauce there is - because it has good flavor, which so much spice seems to forget. I'll eat with folks who are like "Tapatio on everything!" and I just wonder if they actually like the food they're eating, or just know that they can tolerate the spice, so anything carrying the spice is palatable.
Why the Midwest(usa) cucks so much. Its like the cuck mecca of the world. Google it.
Video games. They were fun as a kid on a rainy day but they're completely lost on me now
video games have come a long way in the last few decades though. the variety of genre, play style, art style, etc. is absolutely astounding for someone that grew up playing bootleg games on a C64. There are some that are basically like an interactive movie, puzzle games, building games, and then your usual shooters and sports and mario-type platformers. If you ignore the AAA-slop, there's some really high quality content out there.
It's not about quality.
Don't be offended, I realize I'm the weirdo here, but they seem so pointless to be so time consuming. Entertainment in general is pointless, but I don't spend hundreds of hours watching a movie.
I'm not into TV either though, so maybe it's sitting still that I don't like.
I’m the same way.
Put on a movie and I’m asleep before the first scene is done.
I’m a tinkerer, need something to do with my hands and keep my mind occupied or I lose all interest. Video games often fill that but don’t feel useful in any way. They aren’t even a distraction from my real life, they’re just something to do I guess. Which isn’t what I like to do I guess
For me, video games have always been about "accomplishment," which is why I don't think I was ever into the battle royales and that ilk. Do it, win game, repeat. I liked games that you built up to stuff, longer, more difficult levels, that sort of thing. I also enjoyed racing cars in Forza, but that was almost a workout, squeezing the controller, it would get my heart racing. Platformers like Celeste did the same.
I used to enjoy sitting down and playing some shoot em ups with my buddies, but it was more social hour than the game.
Entertainment is a "social lubricant", so it's not entirely useless. A live show, a party, a sports game or a theater play are great for bringing people together and give them something common to talk about.
The problem is that a lot of the electronic entertainment (games, movies, series, internet) in the past 30 or so years has become fully individual.
When I was a child I played and really enjoyed AAA open world games with loads of collectibles like ACBF or Just cause 3.
Nowadays I enjoy rogue likes, story games and visual novels much more. It is less of a time sink and sometimes I really feel like I got value from it. Like insights into myself or reevaluating some beliefs.
Here are some story games I particularly enjoyed:
Rogue likes I enjoy:
Great puzzle games:
Playing/Planned:
Impeccable taste in puzzle games, congrats!
I am currently finishing Frostpunk.
Planned:
Finding more games I enjoy is quite the struggle now...
Any recommendations?
I'm finishing Talos Principle II, which is quite awesome with some great new head-scratching mechanics.
Other favourites that I always keep around to chill:
Some others that I jump in for a quick adrenaline boost:
Nice thanks! Will check the ones I don't know out. I think I own sable on some platform already.
Some people hang on to their inner child, some let it go. That's just the way it is, it's not better or worse, just different approaches to life.
Space science. I'm well educated with lots of nerdy friends, and I should know the basics of physics concerning planets and stuff. But I don't and I refuse to.
Yeah, I think I find it boring because it's not interactive. It has the same level of interestingness as geology
I actually like geology. But yeah, my main interest is moleculair biology. The thought that so many interesting things are happening in every cell of my body all the time just to keep me alive is so much more interesting to me than stars exploding.
Yes, I am also a molbio nerd. And yes, that stuff is built on actual chemical reactions and physical phenomena that you can demomstrate in the lab, and not theoretical physics
Most things honestly. I go to possibly unhealthy lengths to put mental blocks between me and the world.
Kingdom Hearts. People love it. I do not.
clarifying edit: the whole Disney meets Final Fantasy concept is just like peanut butter and pickles to me. I like (classic) FF, I don't hate Disney, but the two just do not go together. From the plot summaries and fan videos I've come across, it strikes me that whoever writes this stuff loves to set things up but never knows how to resolve them, so I think I'd end up hating it even if I did find the concept appealing.
Oh and the fact Sora got into Smash over Waluigi still burns.
Anything outdoors. Like I go on walks for exercise cause I don't like the gym, but if I wasn't trying to lose weight I wouldn't bother. Anytime I talk to someone and they wanna talk about nature, wild animals, plants, or outdoor sports (honestly sports in general can be added here) I just tune out.
Fashion
AmericaUS. l I'm just done with them. I'd like it if they just STFU for a good long while. Leave everyone else alone while they implode themselves in the stupidest of ways.