19 yrs on Reddit, permanently banned.
No warning, not even a "Don't do it again email" - I had a work account, that was logged in on my works laptop, I made a comment critical of Netanyahu, and the Gaza genocide, which got that account banned from /pics. This was months ago, then I made a comment on pics, on my main account. That's it, gone, banned.
I even have another spare account, from 2008, logged in to that, that's banned too. FFS!
No luck on appeals, so I guess no more reddit, ever again. Anyone managed to get around this?
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Yes and no, I guess, I don't know.. I used it every day for almost 20 yrs, It became part of my daily routine. I'm really liking it here though, it feels way less 'shouting into the void' and more inclusive, kinda like early reddit.
Very much so.
Two things killed Reddit for me.
Bot bans for basically everything.
Over-saturated to the point that your comments almost never get interacted with. So....what's the point?
Same here! I used to leave comments in the early days of Reddit, but then it became clear that many posts I was replying to were just karma farming or bots.
Seeing that made me just stopped using it as anything other than a content aggregator, and only through the 3rd party apps.
When they basically killed API access I moved here. It doesn't have the niche communities that are on Reddit, but when I need information from those I just search it up.
Welcome to the fediverse! I too have had my IP permabanned from reddit for hurting conservative feefees.
I'm in the same situation. I feel like here I actually have valid discussions most of the time. They are seriously too ban happy as well, get a mod that has their feelings hurt because you support something they don't or political views and banned.
the fingerprinting is pretty extensive, your browser size, screen resolution, computer components,,,etc. it would have to be a new device, IP,a nd different browser, and or long term success requires you to use paid methods.
All of my accounts have been banned, but my wife is able to log in fine from the same IP.
I only use Reddit at work on my work desktop. Over the last handful of years I've gone through a shit ton of Reddit accounts, but they last weeks/months until I say one of the many, many things you can get bot banned for on Reddit, which I inevitably do, because I am not nice to fascists and I don't care if I get banned for being mean to fascists.
So I'm not sure about the IP thing.
I'm statically assigned an internal IP, so that never changes. And my public IP should also remain the same for weeks/months as far as I know.
It would be interesting to have a network admin's thoughts on this. Am I somehow being assigned a new public IP on a daily basis? That's handled on the ISP's side. Does my workplace have an agreement with the ISP to change public IP's every day? Cuz sometimes I only make it a day or two before telling a fascist the only good fascist is a dead one and getting banned.
I use the Brave browser and only use private windows. When I'm banned I clear the browser, making sure everything, including cookies, are wiped. I re-open the browser in a private window, create a new throwaway email account, use it to create a new Reddit account, and I'm back in until, like you, I hurt conservative fee fees.
I always thought an IP ban would be bad for their business cuz then one person could get a multi-user computer banned and Reddit would lose users that way. Not that I would put it past Reddit to make bad decisions. I've been watching them do it for almost two decades now.
Network admin here, your internal IPv4 address doesn’t matter, external people don’t see it. Your work likely has a static block of external IPv4 addresses and it’s possible that they are rotated through over time so your effective external IP changes slowly. This depends on how big your work organization is and how your network admin set things up
But could it be rotating external addresses literally every day or two?
Like I said, I only make it a day or two with some of these accounts before I say something I typically know will get me banned and I just don't care. Then I'm back in with my new account. It's fully functional. I check to make sure I'm not shadowbanned. I get activity on my posts. And those accounts can be good for months.
I just don't see how Reddit can be IP banning if I'm able to do this.
Yes. It’s Port Address Translation with a pool of external IPv4 addresses
Interesting. It's an extension of NAT.
So you would have to purchase a pool of external IP addresses from your ISP?
So, technically, if you had PAT on your home router, which I'm not even sure is a thing, and purchased external IPs from your ISP, you could cheat Reddit's IP ban, assuming they actually have an IP ban in place?
But regular external IPs get cycled every few weeks/months, right? So wouldn't anyone with a Reddit IP ban be able to get back in with a new account once their external IP naturally cycles?
I mean if Reddit banned based on more than IP, like my computer's MAC address, then any new account I created would be insta-banned for having the same MAC. I've been using this same computer for a few years now.
MACs are not seen by Reddit - that’s layer 2 info that only your ISP sees. All they see is your external IP. Most home users don’t have a static IP or static pool and can likely get a new IP - that’s called a dynamic IP. As to your point about IP ban evasion, they are used to home users having dynamic IPs so they probably don’t depend on IP bans at all - likely client fingerprinting (cookies, user-agent string, other browser identifiers) and usage, like what subreddits you go to
they do banned abused PUBLIC type IP, that people use to evade with. so thats why they have to look for IP THAT IS MORE niche.
i suspect they are less likely to ban large public IP used by businesses, institutions like schools,,,etc. over a individual, they probably put them in special category.
Your company may use a NAT network. NAT network can be described as a VPN but in a more local and trusted form. What I mean is that since migration from IPv4 to IPv6 is still going on, many internet providers use 1 public IPv4 address for like hundreds of their users, thus providing both additional security/anonymity and cutting costs on equipment and its maintenance. Thus, your company may share the same public IP address with a thousand other users securing it from being banned so easily. You can check this fact by go on sites that show your IP and then compare it with the IP of a router. If they are different, then most likely you are using the NAT network.
i had a same thing going on, although i was using public university computers to do it, which is probably why they dint initially block all of them until last year. different IP, and device was confusing them. if they however detect same positng pattern, or writing style they will catch on quickly,
on another forum, i heard they "trust" iphone, google email, phone made accounts over a desktop now. it did make sense seeing as how you can have a burner device with loads of account and not get banned for having that many. of course adding some IP/proxies, anti detect in the mix.
Do you need a new IP/ISP too?
I really hope you deleted every activity on your 14 year old account because reddit will hold on to your data (even if you delete your account), sell it, and use it to train their AI. Something which they got from you for free while denying you access to their services after you committed time (14 fucking years), paid internet and all that. I wish every single user they permabanned did this. Reddit would collapse in less than one week
Poison the data. Love it
"some" not all. Use it for the ones that work. For the ones that do not allow, you may manually delete your comments or replace them with random single words so it overwrites whatever backups they have.
In a war of man vs machine, Man always wins
TBF you're just AI training material to them.
Not very diverse (read "useful") training material if they ban everybody expressing a POV that the asshole troll mods don't like.
Training material doesn't need to be diverse when the AI models are intended to promote very specific ideologies. It's probably better to limit the sample size to "approved" discourse in those circumstances.
This is where the smart money is. They're clearly massaging the input with this, every time.
It has been a gift tbh.
This was the best thing that ever happened to you. Don’t look back.
I will always love the fact that the comment that finally got me permabanned was for telling a MAGA knuckledragger that he wasn’t just licking boots, he was deep throating them. Meanwhile, r/conservative, an actual fucking Russian psyop operation, is allowed to continue to exist. Reddit in a nutshell, especially after Trump was reelected.
My 13 year old account with 250,000 comment karma was instant permabanned for saying "it's ok to punch a nazi".
That's when I stopped caring about Reddit and just kept creating new accounts to say whatever the fuck I wanted.
Yep, that's the phrase that got one of my accounts banned a while back.
That's odd, I commented in a thread about the killing of that French fascist that it's not enough to wait for the state's permission to kill fascists if you want to stop fascists, and all I got was a 3 day suspension.
I was permabanned because contesting a sub ban is apparently considered harassment of the mods. The sub ban was for saying that people should vote against the trillion dollar Tesla bonus for FElon. It wasn't even a Tesla sub, it was some generic stock trading one.
250000 comments is mental illness.
That’s not what comment karma is, Doctor.
Karma. Not comments.
My highest rated comment before I was perma banned was 16,000. Just one comment. I was on reddit for 15 years.
karma, not comments lol. someone with that many comments is likely a bot, and wouldve even get that much before being banned.
I still haven't gotten banned for saying Kirk got what he deserved. They just deleted that comment. But I edited another comment repeating my original comment, and that's stayed up. /shrug
Good fucking riddance to Reddit. You might have been the last real person (not bot/AI) commenting on anything over there.
Why would you have a "work account" for Reddit?
OSHA compliance with nsfw materials.
Years ago, I had a work account that answered troubleshooting questions in the company subreddit. It was actually pretty great for that, because active users could get their answers quickly, but also the answers were preserved for future users. Our corpirate site had a community page, but it didn't have 0.01% of the daily views the subreddit had.
I left that job years ago, though, and I don't think the sub is as active as it was.
Work account for recruitment, we used reddit to recruit people, seems odd I know, but you can get some decent nerds from those programming subs 😂
i assumed work account , as advertising on the site. some non-propaganda spammer will do this, but they use other ways evasion.
Guy gets his 19yo account perma'd
Tons of Wordword#### accounts with hidden post/comment history flooding reddit and render common subs unusable
Reddit: Fuck you and your two accounts, man. We hate multi-account users here.
It's actually quite a horrible feeling, initially. I was there from near the beginning, through the glory days to the enshitification. Got banned from a sub by an overzealous mod on AskUK. Then perma-banned for 'ban-evasion', simply for using another "throwaway" account, which was common practice for years.
Now I'm on Lemmy I'm never going back, even if I could (which is harder than you might think).
Yes, this place is way smaller, but I've met almost no dickheads or bots in the year or so I've been here. It's nice. I had a gander at Reddit the other day and it reinforced my affection for this platform and utter disdain for Reddit in general. They've absolutely wrecked it.
Yeah, you're right, when you've been there for so many iconic moments of it, the cumbox, the gobstopper, the coconut, Mr Oglolblo (I can't believe I can still spell that) It's been a huge part of growing up I guess, but yeah, my doomscrolling has improved massively, the quality of content here is better. I just need to make the leap and delete reddit for good.
Count your self lucky the local authorities haven't come to your door to question you about such a comment...
Oi mate I heard you posted hurty wordy on the internet
That would be possible if your were living in the UK...ain't that right bois?
Same here. 2 weeks ago out of nowhere I got perma banned after 10 years because of an ICE comment. I said since they didn't get paid, nor will get their sign on bonus, that in 3 years they will be back sucking immigrant cock behind a Wendy's for money. Apparently that is inciting violence. Suck a cock until you choke spez. Anyway it's better here except missing some niche subs that don't exist here.
I said snitches get stitches in regards to someone burning a Tesla dealership and the news asking for tips.
Inciting violence.
"Anyone managed to get around this?"
Nope. They banned all my accounts. Even ones I never post with.
Thing is. I moved recently and got a new computer.
Never even accessed these 3 alternatives on my current PC or IP to link them to the banned one.
But they had been used on same PC and IP like 5 years ago.
So that means they keep that info. Also my alt accounts were only banned a few months ago but my main one was banned 1 year ago.
I just happened to try to use an alt a few months ago and found it was also now banned and so were 2 others I haven't used in about 5 years.
I can't see how they can be sure this is the same person. Unless Reddit is linked to some other site and when you log in there, Reddit knows because you gave them your email.
This is one of the reasons I hate Discord. I made an account ten years ago and forgot about it. In the meantime I built a new computer with completely new parts, fresh install of Windows. Then a few years later someone wanted me to join Discord and when I went to make an account, I was already signed in with this old account I'd forgotten about! It really freaked me out. The best I can figure is that gmail is linked to it so since I'm constantly logged in to gmail/YT, I was automatically signed in to Discord when I went back. I hate that creepy crap with a passion. Discord has some bad mojo voodoo going on.
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I just went back to Discord. First time in years. And it knows who I am! Oh god yuck.
Edit2:
It's definitely Gmail/YT. I just went there using Firefox and Discord doesn't know me.
I had different emails for all those accounts. On some reddit info page it says it uses "current" Ip address and device screen resolution info to link accounts to each other.
I think that might be a lie. They have to be keeping at least 5 years of data . Maybe even older.
I also change my IP address all the time.
They must be tracking some other identifying info. Like device sign in name (Google account/windows login) or something.
I don't know but I was very surprised they found all my accounts so easily and banned them all.
You said those old accounts hadn't been used ever or in a long time didn't you? IIRC, a year or so ago, I think they went through and banned unused/dead accounts to prevent account selling and hacking. So that could be unrelated to the recent ban.
Ah . Maybe. I had not used them in a few years for sure.
Although when I tried to login I received a prompt the account was banned.
Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.
How to get around this:
Why the fuck are you on an enemy's weapons system? Yes, you will have to make peace with permanently being excluded from what is essentialy 1/3 of the internet, but they are REALLY evil. It's like an abussive partner leaving you.
Good riddance.
The lesson is we need platforms like lemmy. Don't ever support any corporate platforms they may seem nice now but it always ends badly.
I got banned after 12 years, and a million Karma, in the Post-Inauguration bloodbath. I got around it with alt accounts for a while, but they caught up faster and faster. The first one lasted about 3 months, but by the end, I was getting tracked down and banned before my first comment was even posted.
People like us, who were there near the beginning, when nobody had heard of Reddit, built that site into what it became. Without us, it has become a cesspool of bots, trolls, novelty accounts, Russian Propaganda Farmers, Corporate manipulators, etc., and especially abusive Mods.
Too bad, it was great for a while.
If they can track you to this extent, imagine what they do with data you do not know they have. Reddit is an AI bot cesspool now. A good portion of content there are not real
They must be using a phone. From what I understand, those have like a digital fingerprint of some sort so it's insanely easy for sites to track you. On a computer, you should be able to just re-start the modem and get a new IP address and wait a day.
The way they catch people, via a computer at least, is that someone living in a suburb will keep trying to immediately re-register and start posting and subscribing to the exact same subs. Since there won't be a lot of people registering from that IP address, they can be pretty sure it's a ban evasion. If you're registering from Manhattan, I can't think of a way they can be sure a new register is a ban evasion.
Except maybe if you're using the same browser which will store cookies from the site. But if you use a new browser or clean out those cookies, you should be fine. Actually, cookies are probably the main way they catch ban evasions. There's probably a cookie that gets placed in the browser when you're banned and when you register the site will check for it.
Do other sites offer identity verification as a service? If they can ask Google and Meta if an IP is linked to a known account, ban evasion would become very difficult.
An IP address can't be linked to a single user. The IP address can just be tracked to an area of roughly five square miles.
When I was a web developer in the 2000s and 2010s the hit counters I used would give me, for each visitor, the browser they used, the operating system, the screen resolution, the IP address, and the internet provider company they were using like Xfinity and, most importantly for this discussion, if they were a return visitor.
So if I was running a forum and I banned someone who was from an IP address in Luckenbach, TX using Bubba’s Fish and Tackle and HiSpeed Internet Service, using Internet Explorer 7 on Windows XP, with a screen resolution of 800x600. And then, an hour later someone from Luckenbach, TX using Bubba’s Fish and Tackle and HiSpeed Internet Service, using Internet Explorer 7 on Windows XP, with a screen resolution of 800x600 marked as a return visitor tried to register a new account, I could safely assume this is the same guy I just banned.
The return visitor thing narrows it down to a single person or at least the same computer and the same browser. Theoretically, I could have written some PHP code that automatically checked this type of thing and automatically handled ban evasions.
I’m pretty sure this is how Reddit does it too. Mainly that cookie that tells them this is the same computer and browser that the banned person used. I think phones have this type of cookie built into their hardware. The Trusted Platform Module (TPM) in modern computers can be used for this as well but I don't think they're using it for that yet because Windows fucked up and decided to try and force everyone to buy a new computer with TPM during an AI bubble.
Plus, they might have Discord type somewhat-secret partnerships where if you’re logged in to gmail, and then visit Discord, gmail automatically sends Discord your email address so you can automatically log in there. I’ve never given Reddit my email so I don’t know if they have this kind of thing. But if you didn’t know and tried to re-register and your banned account had the same email that gmail is sending to Reddit to automatically log you in, gmail is accidentally snitching on you.
Didn't even try. It was the impetus I needed to finally leave reddit. I'd also been on there for a long time, and i was putting in an hour or so each day. It wasn't really doing me any good, and when I adjusted I felt better to be away from it. Lemmy scratches the itch but is small enough that it doesn't consume much time. I do more reading and gaming now when I'm free. Years spent on reddit and big karma numbers are a sunk cost that makes it hard to leave.
I recently got perma banned from a community I'm very passionate about. No warning, perma ban for something that imo is not that controversial (I called a politician a spineless fuck) when I attempted to contest it, the mods muted me. Fuck reddit.
Take my updoot for calling that politician a spinless fuck
You have to be very bland and innocuous now. Even calling a 3rd person an idiot is enough to get your comment deleted so you have to constantly check yourself "Is this comment boring and milktoast enough to survive?"
I had an account for over 10 years and also left. I left over the recent issues with Discord as well as Reddit, Meta, and Google. I figured it was time to get off of them, honestly they did OP a favor.
I find fewer and fewer reasons to go to it. I mute many of the annoying subs from my feed. I avoid the ones that are just echo chambers. This leaves a pretty small list and they are getting very repetative.
they did you a solid, bud
This one. You’ll miss things but overall you’ll feel cleaner.
Why do you want to get around it? Reddit is last decade. Time to move on.
Agreed. Yesterday I finally got around to deleting my three Reddit accounts that were 9-10 years old (hadn't used them in a couple years). First I made sure to overwrite most of my comments with gibberish. Reddit is basically Facebook now.
The only thing I miss Reddit for are the Guitar forums. It was a really great place to interact with great guitarists, advise and support young players, show off your instruments, etc. Very supportive and informative, and I miss it.
Huh. I've never got pinched for ban-evasion before despite very regularly using alts to comment in subs where I had previously been banned. I don't honor perma-bans on principle because I think they're ridiculous, but I do self-impose a 30-day ban to let things cool down a bit and avoid attracting suspicion.
Not sure what my secret sauce was, but it was never an issue for me over the 15 or so years I used Reddit.
That said, I'd take this as an opportunity to just stop using Reddit altogether.
15 years isn't the issue, it's only since January 2025 that there has been an issue. Reddit is OFFICIALLY a mouthpiece for MAGA and the Conservative Propaganda Machine.
Could be. I stopped using Reddit...checks Lemmy account...in 2024. Not an immediate switchover, but a few months.
It did start having a very "dead internet theory" vibe to it.
Na, apparently they do have the ability to track who and where you make accounts.
I've similarly made efforts to discuss and condemn the brutal genocide in Gaza on reddit and found myself with a perma-ban.
I'm only going to hazard a guess, but somehow reddit knows which devices your accounts have previously been logged in on, and will automatically ban your new account after 1 day.
I've tried using VPNs, virtualized desktops, different devices, made accounts on devices that I have never logged in on, but then when I use the new account on my regular device, it gets banned.
Spez got a taste of that good Israeli money and now outright bans users for questioning or criticizing the Zionist machine. Welcome to the weaponization of the greatest tool humanity ever created - the Internet.
SImilar way Iranian generals where tracked and executed. Best to stop using reddit altogether. I mean that website is filled with AI regurgitating trash posts and content to attract young human users
They are actually precise enough that my brother never got banned, despite living in the same household. How, I don't fucking know.
Your secret sauce is you probably live in a country where your ISP does not snitch on you.
It’s probably the lying low for 30 days. In the 2000s and 2010s, I ran various websites and the hit counters I used would give me, for each visitor, the browser they used, the operating system, the screen resolution, the IP address, the city and state they were in, the internet provider company they were using like Xfinity, and whether they were a new user or not. If the person cleared their cookies or came back after the cookies expired then they appeared as a new visitor. If this info was tied to usernames and emails, it’d be easy to kinda figure out who is who. But not if not if they'd been gone for a while.
Also, I can’t remember exactly if this one company had it’s own IP or it was it’s own internet provider, but I do remember I could spot my ex-girlfriend looking at my sites while she was at work because she worked for this company and it would show up as part of the info. She got weirded out when I asked her why she was visiting my sites at work.
It's not worth it, some autistic psychopath that has nothing better to do than memorize writing patterns, is going to analyze everything you do, figure it out, and ban you.
It's been doing that for quite a while now.
Reddit has become a corporate protector of the Epstein Pedophiles. Say too much negative about them and they ban permanently. I know that's not why you were banned, but the mods there have gotten really annoying with permanent bans for thin reasons. Erase Reddit. Join Lemmy and enjoy freedom.
No, I just stopped using it a couple of years ago when we learned about the AI bullshit. 251k+ Karma account.
Reddit sucks now & it's simply not worth supporting with my time or energy.
Considering how some people run hundreds of bots it must be possible.
It's very hard on a device you actually use. They cross reference cookies from multiple ad networks and affiliates, they fingerprint your unique interests, your devices, it's actually fairly impressive. I've gone to some lengths and still gotten new accounts suspended after weeks or months. The people who run bots are using clean VMs to do it, everything totally fresh and unconnected.
But a VM would still share the same IP.
NAT networks that use shared global IP like a VPN but in a more local ways. Thus saying, they cannot simply ban 1 IP address of a trusted internet provider and cut of like a thousand people just to ban 1 account since this will limit other potential clients and lover their profits. Reddit's greed is also its weakness.
I still use my banned account. I can sub/unsub, save posts and RES still works in my browser. I just can't comment, message or report people. Given I was mostly a helpful user with people's questions, it's really their loss.
You have to be careful with that account 'cause they continue to fingerprint you based on your account activity -subbbing/unsubbing- the less people using reddit, the faster it will die a natural death....like myspace.
While I agree, it's still the behemoth of information and people discussing things.
we can always build another one. Reddit is nothing without people's data and contributions which is why I advise you to delete your data if they decide to ban your account permanently.
These "people" are wagging a war against humanity! They don't want you helping anyone! They decided they want something they can always control and tune to their needs, fake people, in a fake world.
It's either us or them! Reddit must FALL!
I got permabanned for encouraging political violence: suggesting people draw pentagrams in chalk on a public street. As a joke, not like "show up at this time so we can do this."
They are eroding the definition of "political violence" and they know it, they don't care. Thought is political violence now.
Redefining political violence has been a tactic of authoritarianism for many decades. It starts with only ever pointing out one kind of political violence (ie, the right does violence, the left does violence in response, only the left's violence is covered). Then comes treating lesser violence from one side as a greater form of violence (ie, the right is using grenades, the left is using boxing gloves). Finally comes what you experienced, the elimination of freedom of expression on the grounds that speech leads to violence, even if what you're calling for is just a slightly weird form of propaganda to invoke thought rather than any kind of violence.
I say all this in the hopes that someone on a different part of the scale somewhere can recognize the signs early enough to do something
pigboy steve is a fascist
You can't get around the bans. They move heaven and earth to fingerprint you.
Don't worry about it. Many of us are in the same boat. I actually think reddit doesn't want human users anymore. They want to be a bot-only outfit.
there is a way, but likely it will cost money, as you need a new device, browser, and IP. its only worth it if your advertising on reddit(that reddit doesnt take a cut), maybe OF people, but people want to advert or direct to thier own business will have hordes of accounts and a way to "look like normal users" with niche proxies and anti-detection browsers.
Those are easy. Use Firefox with tracking ptotection set to strict, Jshelter set to little lies on canvas and audio, time precision protection set to high, and use mobile data.
That's what I don't understand: why go so much out of your way to spite an user just because they broke some rule?
At the rate they are going they'll end up with no one left except for bots.
Yea, I lost my 15 year old account last year. Started a new one and it just wasn't the same. Left a few months ago for here, still not the same, but better then reddit.
There is something going on there and I suspect that there is a real effort underway to tie peoples identity to a reddit account. They want a real email or a phone number and if you are denying them this and protective of your data they are getting not a lot from you. They read your private messages and are basically data mining the hell out of everything. Culling long time members seems to be a thing and for specious or no real reason? I would like to think that me blocking all ads and blocking my IP and using an anonymous email annoyed them. I supported Palestine and reminded people about the death of Rachel Corrie so that probably helped. Karma was good 17,000 and 39000 post and comment so I have only two words for Reddit Admins..and they are See Ya!
Maybe they only want people who don't make waves, stick to pun chains, innocuous comments, etc. Things like news subs though are full of angry rants so I'm not sure.
a read only site like FACEBOOK, they just want people browsing.
I never saw the point. I was pretty jealous with my data and pretty scrupulous with my vpn and would not use it without my ad blocker or privacy guard engaged. As soon as they wanted access to private messaging and making chat the default it was a signal that they no longer wished to be locked out of any conversation. I just made a new tuta.com account and will be back there aging up and account directly.
I regularly purged my comment and post history and before I deleted it I overwrote my comment history with fuck u/spez then deleted and deleted my account.
Nice my version of redact is no longer supported. I am going to age up a new account and hopefully figure out how to get un suspended so I can wipe the account clean and leave them with nothing
I used REDACT to clean up my comment history, It rewrites them to something like the quick brown fox jumps over..or Ipsum Locsum
reddit is pretty much in cahoots with GOOgle have you notice how closely they are entertwined. GOOGLE promotes reddit posts instantly to the top, no secret. plus reddit uses googles AI system i believe too, reddit allows google to scrape the site, also thier anti-botting system, captcha v3 is invisible bot checking system, which apparently triggers the v2, if it doesnt trust you.
reddit also recently made user history, hide-able, so you cant tell if someone is a bot by looking at a evidence of thier comment history.
I laugh at google. I dont use their email and I dont have a recovery phone number and I dont save my my watch history on youtube and I block every ad they try and send. Privacy Badger is pretty helpful.
i havnt tried making a new one, give hown they shadown banned, plus i went on another forum immediately they catch on to new accounts very easily, PLUS they also start targeting old inactive accounts that became active suddenly or new accounts. it is possible if your using a new device and a new IP address, plus a browser. apparently they trust google email/mobile made accounts more and iphone ones, over PC generated ones(they can tell through thier fingerprinting methods, what devices and components, where you generated your account.
This happened to me. Best thing that could have happened. Welcome to Lemmy.
The flaws here are minor;
The only real issue I've seen so far is that you'll get a thread where people don't read the damn article and someone will say something that we all might agree with if it weren't DIRECTLY OPPOSED TO THE ARTICLE and people jump on the bandwagon.
Getting downvotes for pointing out something that everyone SHOULD have seen is just irritating. But whatever. I move on from those threads and idiots can fuck off. heh.
(I know I'm wrong about many things, but I'm talking about literally people not reading the article and posting something stupid)
That's where the old Slashdot initialism comes into play: RTFA
Read the Fine Article
or
Read the Fucking Article
You ain't wrong, although it's just hard to fight against the momentum. But I've found it better to try and answer what's wrong rather than just RTFM^[which btw is much older than /. lol, but you're still old school for attributing it there, not disparaging you] as it seems to help a little. Sometimes. But not always. It's human nature. heh
It's not like it's always wrong per se....... like in this case one of the witnesses to an ICE shooting was killing in a crash and lots of the comments are about how it wasn't an accident. But the article mentioned three other people in the car including the guy's sister - and it was reported they took a highway exit too fast. Based on the time........ I'd read "drunk" between the lines, though that wasn't mentioned - but importantly: If it was suspicious, why didn't any of the three survivors mention anything out of the ordinary?
But I agree that it would be suspicious....... if we didn't already have people who would be inclined to speak up not saying anything was out of the ordinary.
So I get the comments - except they should have RTFM.
But that's just one example from today. It happens a lot, but most of the time people here seem to post decently thoughtful posts. And we have very few fascists. Sooooo, that's nice. heh
Naw, the poster should have included more info in their post. That was a result of their low effort.
The people responding are responding to a Lemmy post, in accordance with the info offered. They are not on whatever news site commenting in response to the an article there.
As a rule I do not click through to articles. Posts are not just ad space for media platforms. Include some relevant info in the title and post body. Then link to the article for reference.
There are many who won't click though, but there are a few exceptions to the rule. Like linking a long academic article for discussion.
If somebody comments to the subject of a post, as it's presented in the OP, their response is not stupid.
If the comment seems out of place because of the information left out of the OP then the fault of the confusion lies on the poster for their low effort post.
Welcome 🤗, to your new online community
for.. ever?
danny's not here mrs torrance
I read somewhere that tony might have been future (adult) Danny trying to warn his younger self.
so did i! (right here)
18 years. Banned a year ago. No recourse, appeal immediately denied. Used the word “tRump”
Well, if you will go around using slurs that target such a minority...
/s
I met Steve, Alexis, and Aaron when the site was housed in Steve's Somerville apartment. They used to throw meetups in Davis Square. This was in 2007-08, before the Digg migration.
Reddit is nothing like it was then, nor are the founders recognizable compared to what I saw all those years ago. I'm not banned, but then I rarely go there any more. Lemmy isn't very good, but Reddit is a dumpster fire.
reddit is mostly bots now anyways.
I was a mod on r/trashy when some dick face mod on r/pics managed to get me perma banned after 15 years.
It’s not worth going back to. Welcome to Lemmy.
Similar experience. I know it feels like you've been betrayed. That's cause you have been.
It sucks to see reddit go into the shitter so fast but it was only a matter of time. Bots got to it too.
Well, enjoy Lemmy while it remains less mainstream.
I may be wrong but with it being defederated does that mitigate the concern of it being enshittified? Or maybe I dont understand the whole picture of defederated apps but isnt the hope that they remain corporate free even if they are popular?
Bots and tech corporations will always infiltrate popular social media platforms to push narratives.
There are companies you can hire that do this.
And the bad people out there definitely do this.
Once a platform becomes more popular, it will have a target on its back.
12 years for me. Tons of Karma, made it to top page once. I made a stupid joke on Roast me, and someone considered it Hate speech. Tried to create other profiles, all are permanently banned now. Appeals are denied. Glad I found this site. I hope it scratches the itch.
All it takes it one power tripping mod or bitter Karen user to complain and destroy a years old account. Zero accountability in the other direction.
Curious how you heard about Lemmy. You digging it ?
I heard about it during the whole API debacle.
Reddit really needs a great alternative. Lets see how Lemmy does in this regard.
I already got banned from a group on one of the lemmy feds. Guess I didn't agree with the echo chamber but since I couldn't see the offending comment I have no idea. I just abandoned the fed, fuck 'em.
If people would start posting more pictures of their pit bulls and just pets in general lemmy could be a fucking eutopia
Petopia
I'd never let my young kids pet a pitbull. She already knows to ask before petting but I'll never let her pet a pitt. The only reason I carry a knife when walking my dog is in case a pitt bull attacks.
i can't remember what i got banned for, but my memory has it as "posted Luigis in defiance of Luigis ban" and that sounds like me.
11 years and I got banned from the site with zero recourse. All I did was repost a meme that had already gone around the entire site. I mean I get banning someone from a specific sub, but banning someone site wide after I had been there 11 years? Insanity.
i legitimately think the mod was on a power trip and wanted me to beg.
not. without. paying.
Before you delete your 20 year old reddit account, take the time to carefully delete everything on that account -posts, comments, chats, everything- they are relying on you leaving that data so they feed their AI with it after you are gone. Simply deleting your account is not enough
Won't work. They have backups of everything you have ever done on there. They will just restore the backups and then ban you so you can't do that again. It's the bargain you made when you created an account with them.
You are not deleting your account, only to return with a new account. Reddit has become a cesspool and it would be a wise decision to leave with all your data.
You may corrupt your data before leaving so it overwrites the backup. Someone used an auto app that replaced all their posts with random gibberish. It took about a week, this is something you might explore if it addresses your concerns.
I did the same. It was all restored within a couple of weeks. I've since done it again twice and just checked - it's all back.
edit your data. replace your posts with random single words. that would overwrite the backed up data.
Another route is to sue them, I'll be welcome to a coalition of former reddit users who have been exploited like this to pull resources together and make reddit surrender the backup of banned user data.
I did edit the posts. First edited then deleted immediately, the last two tries edited in batches, then deleted weeks later. No dice. I'm sure Reddit has far more than one backup and it's clearly easy enough to automatically detect and revert mass edits, even done gradually over time.
That's going to be pretty difficult and unlikely to succeed. They're worse than the music industry. Here's the applicable blurb from their TOS:
This will not stop you from deleting your content from Reddit which was obtained for free from you, after they turn around to ban you/deny you access to their services.
Did you not read what people said about their comments being restored after they bulk deleted or edited them? And how would you delete content after being banned anyway?
No offense, but I'll take my attorney's interpretation over your.
Sorry, but they already got all that data. Just like they already got all your data from Lemmy, and are getting it as long as you're contributing here.
Yeah, that doesn't work.
I was banned last night. There must be a crack down going on. Multiple accounts on multiple emails. Definitely on a DHS list now I guess.
Fuck it. I'm not going back. I suspect any reasonable person is getting kicked off the platform. Shits fucked
At this stage anyone who actively contributes there is committing a crime against humanity.
happened to me on a couple accounts, eventually I just quit and came here
reddit's been fucking trash since the API fiasco anyways. I only stuck around to help a subreddit grow
Your first mistake was criticising Netanyahu. You do not criticise the supreme leader Your second mistake was using Reddit I think this ban has fixed the second one for you. Welcome to thelemmyclub 🤗
I got perma banned, but then they lifted it once they started losing users. 😂
Fuck em with a rusty shovel. I only keep it to read posts about solving certain problems.
Time to ban Reddit.
Around what? They did you a favor.
Not sure what the business plan is for banning everyone, must be an AI strategy we are too stupid to understand.
Banking on investors and advertisers not noticing that it's all bots until they've personally cashed out is my guess
I just picked up another permanent ban in one of the Ukraine subreddits on a post that showed a Russian solder walking with a crutch. Someone was pointing out hat it looked like he was faking it. I replied something like "Well, a drone will probably sort things about either way". Apparently this is supporting violence now.
I've been on reddit since 2009. The place sure has gone fucking downhill. It was bad enough in the_donald days when the admins went so far out of their way and up their own butt to accommodate those fascists, but now this fucking AI moderation is just stupid.
I've lost about three accounts in the past year or two because things that used to be well within the norms are now considered harrassment. I'm fine with polite conversation, but jesus fucking christ they have gone absolutely overboard.
I'm waiting a couple of days before I create a new account, and again backing off my participation there - at this point to just my local city subreddit and one other that I was moderating. But that's it. Fuck the rest of reddit.
I'd consider myself pretty fucking vanilla when it comes to how I behave online, and even I got permabans (not a whole account, but several subreddits). It really feels like you cannot speak about anything online anymore without everyone actively interpreting what you say in the least favorable way possible. I have experienced similar on Lemmy, but at least no one permabanned me for having an opinion yet, so that's something at least.
I'll take a few crazy assholes making weird accusations over being permabanned for no reason or worse: shadowbanned. Especially on youtube, I get the feeling that my comments are being shadowbanned on nearly every channel I comment on. It used to be that one could at least chat with other people in the comments on there, but within the last year, I just don't get any reactions to anything I write anywhere. And I'm the type of bitch who watches cat videos, cake decoration videos and follow channels that cover media like movies and video games.
I have censored myself more, less curse words and such, but nothing helps. People simply don't see my comments anymore. It's such a bizarre feeling after having used youtube since it started in 2005 and all of a sudden feeling like I have been cut off from communicating with anyone despite still being able to comment and like videos.
Gonna sound like I'm minimizing your reply - please forgive me, I'm not: There's a wild difference between subreddit bans and sitewide bans, though. Lots of shitty mods out there because all you have to do to become a mod is make a subreddit that takes off, so the fact that you do get some occasional great mods is the surprise. A sitewide ban for bullshit reasons is much stupider since the admins should be hiring people trained to admin the site properly.
That said… still sucks very much to get unjustified bans at any level. Especially with no true appeal system in place.
Every site will get things wrong....... but it feels like reddit keeps going out of their way to make things shittier and shitter.
Oh yeah, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that getting banned from a sub is the same as having an entire account removed. It was my clumsy attempt to show how easy it is to get fucked over by reddit and that when some basic bitch like me can get banned from subs I never interacted with, it shows that the values of the site has slipped and that there isn't far from small actions like that to suddenly removing long time users from the platform.
I should have been more specific. It just seems like reddit has rotted to the core and is run at all levels by losers who got a little bit of power and became tyrants with it.
And conversely, I really wasn't minimizing that, either. Because both - sitewide and subreddit bans for no good reason - are fucking dumb. lol. Sorry to have not explained myself well <3
I think for the admins, it's less about the power and more about shit like the reasons Musk is ruining Twitter - money, political gain. But I know they've abused power, too^[Like when a certain founder edited comments of others because they could], so it's probably a combo of all of that.
But yeah, either way, reddit is rotten, and it's a bummer, because it used to be one of the best places on the internet for good discussion, information, all sorts of crap.
Well, here's hoping Lemmy continues to grow. It truly does seem to remind me favorably of reddit's early days, although I wish there was a bit more in-depth conversation on some topics. But I think I'm also a product of previous decades in that regard anyway. heh
I got banned after 12 years for saying "kill" in the context of a cat hunting for food. I appealed it and immediately got a denial. They said the decision wasn't made by a bot which means a human just straight up didn't read the comment that got me banned.
As for getting around it, it takes more effort than it's worth. They use multiple levels to enforce their bans. Beyond just an IP ban, they can see what device you're on, pixel counts of your screen, browser cache, basically your whole digital fingerprint. It's actually pretty terrifying how much information about you a website can get.
Even if you manage to evade all the technical stuff, the site can track which subs you might subscribe to, your interaction patterns, how you "talk" in comments, they got a whole profile on you. Your best bet of getting around the ban is to get a new device and move to another state. Even then if you join multiple niche subs that your old account was subbed to they'll figure you out.
If you do it right, and clear all your cookies and caches and other identifiers you can use an anti-tracking browser like GoLogin, but most of those are subscription based and you'll have to run through a VPN and make sure you don't log in on a normal browser on accident.
Using the reddit app on your phone is out of the equation entirely.
Lemmy is a much better alternative, but there aren't a lot of people here. Hopefully reddit continues forcing their users off their platform so the population here gets bigger.
I believe the Brave browser will block those fingerprints but I wouldn't be surprised if Reddit won't let you on without surrendering it.
After my ban I avoided it for about 4 months then tried again and I got in. Guess there is a grace period.
So glad I got the fuck out of there. I was almost banned for saying they should take out Desantis like the dirty diaper he is.
This was way back during Trump's first presidency. I appealed explaining that in the same series of comments way worse was said. The mod accused me of harassment for sending a single appeal. It left such a bad taste in my mouth I never really took the site seriously after that and moved on completely several months later.
It was a good thing though. Everything I had liked about Reddit had long been perverted, I just hadn't realized it.
Jesus, those mods should be banned.
They did you a favor.
Same happened to me. Fuck reddit back to the hell in which it came. Mods can't handle the truth there. Never going back!!
Welcome to Lemmy!
Tenure doesn't matter; just think about how many people removed all their content in response to their API pricing, and they still didn't care. Reddit is gone, so is Twitter.
what were the comments? do you remember them or have screenshots?
I'm curious as to whether disagreeing with their viewpoint is banable, or if your disagreement was rude/offensive in some other way that earned the bann
either way, good job, congratulations, and welcome
9 out of 10 "I got banned for no reason" posts, you find the offending content and think "oh shit, OP sucks."
Not saying that this OP sucks, just that the lack of context is suspect. And of course reddit suck, and mods suck.
OP gave context - criticizing Israel. If that means 9 of 10 bannees are to be considered assholes, then I'll proudly wear that moniker.
OP provided their version of context. At face value, I agree with you. But did OP use a racial slur? Anti-Semitic talking points? Did OP call for violence or threaten someone? When I say OP didn't provide context, I mean they didn't provide anything backing up their context. They just said they were banned for being critical of Netanyahu and Israel being engaged in genocide. It's been years since I made a reddit comment, but I know I made many similar comments back then and never received a ban, so either the mods were being feckless and arbitrary (certainly a possibility) or OP did more than they claimed. Either way, we're lacking the context to know either way.
I used to mod a few subs, and I can't tell you how many shitbags would come into the sub throwing slurs and threats around, only to blame us for overreacting when they were banned. That's like the default response to earning a ban. I also saw mods act like power-tripping toddlers who would ban anyone that didn't kiss their toes. My experience was more the former than the latter, but that's just my experience.
Context still matters.
Again, context was given.
Context chosen by op.
I'll see if I can dig it out from a crawler of accounts.
That used to be the case, but the AI moderation is really going stupid. I posted elsewhere about what got me permabanned. It's bullshit.
That said, you are still decently correct. A lot of people get legitimate bans. But reddit's AI moderation has also gone off the deep end.
If it helps, I'm the "father" of /r/nottheonion, was a default mod, hung out with admins in IRC back in the day...... not that it makes me super awesome, but I'm also not totally a 'random' guy. heh
i think AI moderation is working as intended for reddit, to keep criticism low against israel, trump,,,etc. but not enough to complete silence dissent to look unfair. as you know spez loves musks, so he wants reddit to have conservative undertones, hence the astroturfing.
I'm afraid I must agree with you, much as I hate to. I suppose just like twitter was destroyed, reddit is all but destroyed as well. :|
That's fair. I left reddit before the AI boom, so I don't really know what it's like now.
I have no idea what op did but you are dead on with some people. I was going to post a hypothetical as a joke but couldn't think of any that were in good taste.
Comment was a anti Israel comment, but it was very scathing of Netanyahu and his ilk.
REDDIT AI moderation is pretty oppressive, you are also battling against a subreddits own filters too.
Fuck SPEZ.
Who is this SPEZ you speak of? He sounds like a greedy little pig boy.
One of the site founders, and a "Libertarian".
Give up on Reddit. You can get porn and memes from other places.
No, you can simply treat Reddit as TV where you should not interact with a content and just watch it. Thus you don't even need an account to browse Reddit unless you are visiting NSFW posts. And even a banned account still allows you to watch any publically available post.
Also happened to my account from 2008 around the time of the API purge (and all my alt accounts except one). Banned me for "report abuse" because I reported too many blatant ads as spam. They had just killed off my favorite 3rd party app so I needed an excuse to leave anyway. Joined Lemm.ee and never looked back.
(And then Lemm.ee shut down so now my side account is my main account.)
Happened to me 3 years ago for calling trump supporters dumb rednecks - turns out I was wrong; there is an unfortunate diversity in this demographic. But honestly I haven't really missed Reddit and enjoy the slow pace of Lemmy more.
You mean you don't enjoy posts with 20K comments on them where it is pointless to eve comment because it will quickly get buried.
Right. There were many times while on Reddit that I wanted to contribute something to the discussion but ended up deciding it's not really worth the effort, it would never get seen. Until that fateful day my last comment was seen.... Lemmy ever since.
Every account I had got perma banned and wiped from Reddit because I was on a temp ban on one of my accounts. I was on one of my other accounts that was older than the one I was temp banned from. Apparently I commented in a sub I had literally zero regocnition I was banned from probably years earlier on the newer account, just showed up on my feed on the other account.
I now cannot even make an account for longer than a few hours before it's scrubbed. I don't have to join a sub, like a post, or make a comment. I'll just make an account, wait a few hours, and get a notification that it's been permabanned.
Lol there goes my plan to sign up using the VPN. Ohh well, it'll probably do me good to get away from it.
Literally have a VPN now in an effort to make a new account. Still got my PC signature and banned me in under 3 hours.
I had that happen for a bit, but I gave it some time and eventually was able to. I suspect they might look at some browser/IP things that expire with enough time. May take a few months, though. For a few months, any account I made using different devices, completely new email address, new browser, whatever - all banned. But then a few months ago I made one and it survived. Well, until now.
I made a top-level comment here, and I did mention that I always observed a 30-day "cooldown" period if I got banned from a sub before jumping back in on an alt.
By the second time it happened to me I just quit using Reddit
Why would you want to go back there?
Might have popped up in all
Same happened to me, an 11 year user. I wasn't even evading a ban and I got permabanned:
After reviewing,...we found that you broke Rule 1 because you encouraged or glorified violence or physical harm. Reddit is a place for creating community and belonging, not for encouraging violence against people or animals. We don’t tolerate any behavior that encourages, glorifies, incites, or calls for violence or physical harm against an individual, groups of people, places, or animals. Any communities or people that encourage or incite violence towards an individual, group, animals, or place will be banned.
They then told me the content they banned me for was "scrubbed" and then they provided a link to said content which was, or course, blank. So, I couldn't even see what they banned me for. I asked them to provide the text I got banned for but they only gave a canned response. I then appealed. Practically instant denial. Fuck them. The entire ten+ years I was on reddit I saw incel, gamergate, MAGA chuds posting comments way more violent than anything I ever posted. They are still there, doing the same. I wish I could spend a few minutes in the presence of both the mod and the admin that silenced me like that.
There are ways around a ban, but it really isn't worth the trouble and you can still get banned even after that if you are not always careful. Do a web search..."they" practically walk you through the application you will need to get and how to set up everything so their fascist fingerprint algos can't connect you back to the banned accounts. Just making sure your browser, computer, and external, visible IP is different is nowhere near enough to avoid a (re)ban.
As someone else mentioned, I can still log in, read my old posts, browse, sub and unsub, but can't ever comment, message, or report anything. Strangely enough (and I think this is a mistake on their part) I can still up and down vote posts.
The only thing I really miss (and I despise Reddit because of it) is that I cannot post to ask questions or for help in my local city/state subreddits.
Before you delete your account. Delete every activity on that account -posts, comments, chats, etc- because that data still remains with reddit, they do not delete it, and they could sell it (for a fee) and use it to train their AI models
Join the club, I was banned for making a comment about the fucking Muscovites attacking Ukraine. F-Reddit!
I got banned 3 times with 3.differemt accounts always for Israel PR. You are simply not.free of criticizing zionists online. I have a friend which was fired for writing on linkedin that Gaza genocide had to stop.
So much for the First Amendment.
If it wasn't a government job, you can be fired for political speech.
Race, nationality, and religion are all protected classes. Firing someone for expressing support for a protected class is dubious at best.
so yeah, agreed. we're speaking about the broad general features here though. (and, of course, statesia centric because where else could we be talking about) the constitution protects you from the government, not private businesses. it's other laws in the titles in the code of federal regulations and various judicial decisions that provide protection for various rights. there's some strange overlap where private businesses fill government functions, but that's a flaw our system not a key feature.
got banned at the beginning of trumps shenangians last year, it was clearly they dont wan overly critical opinions of him.
Reddit has become more like dictatorship of mods.
I've already run into one trash mod on lemmy but thankfully they are rarer than on reddit.
If you weren't banned from r/pics were you even on Reddit?
I got banned for saying "If you see a Nazi, punch a Nazi."
I still read a couple of subreddits, but I don't miss being able to comment or vote there.
Me too, because I made a joke about "If he just hadn't missed" - a hate post about trump = perma bann for life. Fuck reddit, never been looking bad. Lemmy.world was actually a solid solution.
Yeah happened to me. Got temp banned for trash talking, then went on an alt and then got perma'd. It is what it is but I spend much less time on there as a result. Win win?
as soon as you temp ban, any new account they consider is ban evasion. originally you could make a new account(hopefully before you were banned) and let it simmer to give the account age(to avoid reddits "ant-new account botting) then you can begin posting. but they look at everything now.
I was the same. There was one sub I won't name where I made a comment against a celebrity (nothing bad, just making fun of her) and got banned.
I usually delete my Reddit accounts after a year just because I'm wary of how much info you can accidentally reveal about yourself.
Well, I'd made a new account and accidentally posted on the same sub which immediately got me a permanent ban for evasion.
My fault, but no real loss. For the last few years I rarely contribute and just use Reddit for info.
How do they even know it's both you in cases like this?
I think they use a lot of heuristics.
To test I made a new VM with fresh browser, running with a VPN and I still got banned, although it took slightly longer (maybe a few days).
It's possible though my VPN was used on my old account at some point though. But still.
IP addressses and hardware identifiers.
yeah. i might give it a try when i swap to mint, but why. i'm done with reddit.
Actually a lot of it is browser fingerprinting.
Reddit is also giving data on users who say things the administration doesn't like to the DoJ, so fuck them anyway.
I got a "permaban" about 3 years ago. Last month I was unbanned with no notification. Apparently you can just wait?
yes. i have been permabanned and unbanned three times now.
all in the past 3 years. it's insane. I'm probably unbanned again already but I don't really care anymore. my bans were for the most innocuous comments take out of context and all from AI tools and angry losers who report you for disagreeing with them.
i used reddit for a decade with zero incidents, mostly on one account with a few throwaways. my opinions haven't changed really either, but now apparently I am a sexist and racist and violent person for pointing out that sexism, racism, and violence exist.
Honest question, is there anything to stop the same thing from happening on Lemmy if the admins of your instance don't like you?
probably not, but on the fediverse you can be your own admin
nope. but you can use another instance.
there are lots of crazies here too, but so far the mods in charge don't get too riled up. i've only been banned from one community here because my opinions on trans issues are 'hate speech' if they are more complex than a bumper sticker slogan, but that's not particular to that issue. a lot of people have bumper sticker slogan only opinions about a lot of things and think anyone who dares to think the world might be more complex is 'evil' and 'hateful'.
i learned to not mess with r/pics in criticizing politically, i got banned a while ago, i just report the heavily biased pics that are super-political. during election year, i was reporting gaza pics that were target specifically at one party of the other, the OP always have to give thier opinions.
r/pics was the first sub I've noticed that went full political ass berserk mode during 2024. Nothing wrong in having a few political pics there. But when 95% of posts are political and gathering 30k+ upvotes while a really nice and peculiar photo of literally anything else gets like 200 upvotes max, this shit gets annoying in an instant. Political pics was never the main purpose of the sub. But mods shit on the "purpose" in favor of the agenda and popularity.
From the top of my head: clevercomebacks, whitepeopletwitter, blackpeopletwitter, adviceanimals, videos, therewasanattempt, facepalm and probably even more - all turned to be full on political berserk subs. The only way to use reddit today is to participate in tiny small micro subs that haven't got stained by politics yet.
Fascists. You have a home here. Stay beautiful, love.
Reddit bans are serious stuff. You don't wanna get around it anyways, not that you could. They are doing you a favor, really. Now you can just anonymously scroll, like me!
It is pretty easy to get around them simply don't enter an email to verify when making a new account and use a VPN and private window.
Whenever I'm banned I just delete the account and create a new one.
When Im banned from a place, I never go back. Facebook banned me for some unknown reason, I will never go back there either.
Doesn’t work like that
Good riddance to them.
My 13 year old account was permabanned years ago. I'm probably on my 40th Reddit account now.
I only use Reddit on desktop while at work (might as well get paid to use that garbage). I use the Brave browser and only use private windows. When I'm banned I reset the browser's settings, making sure everything gets cleared. I open up a new private window, create a new throwaway account on Outlook.com, use it to create a new Reddit account, then I'm back in until I get banned for trying to discuss my Constitutional rights or shit talk a Trump supporter, or whatever else Reddit bans you for these days. I even have a browser script that auto-adds all my subs from my previous account, so I don't lose them.
Now, I remember when my original account was banned, if I tried to create a new one on my phone and login using the 3rd party app I used to use, then it would be instabanned. So I'm not sure if they log phone's MAC addresses. But computers have MAC addresses too. So I don't know. All I know is this method has been working for me at work for years now. The accounts I create are good for weeks/months until I do one of the many, many things Reddit bot bans you for.
Reddit is a shit platform now and it operates under an unsustainable model that's going to continue driving people to other platforms, so its heyday is past. I wouldn't worry too much if you never use it again. I just use it to combat misinformation, shit talk loser conservatives (fascists), and promote Lemmy.
At a network level, your MAC address is only visible to other machines on your local network. Once your traffic passes through your router, the MAC address is irrelevant and unavailable to the hosts you communicate with.
It's possible your browser/client software is viewing it and leaking that secret to the remote site in-protocol, but fundamentally at a network level there's no reason to be worried about MAC address privacy.
One could also ask themselves: what appeal is there in being on a website that randomly bans you for breathing the wrong way?
I personally was beyond tired of having to walk on eggshells constantly, and while that will always be part of the nature of being online no matter who you are, it does get to a point on some platforms where you're afraid of even posting anything of looking at a thread because it can get you banned by some anti-social loser whose mod status is the only place in their life where they have power. Its just tiring.
If these platforms want to play that game, let them. They can have fun becoming a social media platform entirely filled with bots after all the real people have gotten tired of their bs.
As someone rightly said, reddit has become a bot-only outfit. Even the moderators are bots.. so fuck 'em
Your mistake wasn't making the comment, it was that it caught the eye of an admin's alt. It's why r/worldnews goes to shit anytime anything Israel related is ever mentioned, and it's such a sticking point for the admins that they basically had to throw away everything they had built up with the worldnews Q&A and interviews. They even used to pass off admin actions as that of the mods until eventually after getting enough backlash they just promoted the karmawhore mods willing to be loyal to them and forced the rest to leave.
They don't want users or subscribers anymore, they want a product. They don't give a shit how many years you were a member, and they secretly hope you do end up registering with an alt. It's basically a stick to implicitly train you to avoid those topics if you want to continue participating.
If you want to go back to reddit, your best bet is to run on a VM with a different yet standard resolution and to try to mask all the data your browser leaks about you (why there isn't a browser that already does this is ridiculous). Different timezone, location, etc. Tracking doesn't matter as long as you don't use it with your main account. Cycle your IP, which is usually simply turning off your ISP router for a while then turning it back on again, don't really need a VPN unless they want to start banning whole geographical locations. If everything works out, congratulations, you have become yet another organic user reddit has turned into being indistinguishable from fake bot users.
i t hink israeli mostly taken over r/worldnews since OCT 7 2023, like almost immediately. some people ttried shilling israeli/ anti-biden(against the election) propaganda through subterfuge in r/pics, at the time you could report those images which gets through. even russian bots dint go hard in /worldnews, but israeli was something else, they took over the sub.
I block worldnews and news from my feeds. I don't want that sewer in it. Some mods actually have bots that will ban you for posting a comment in a sub they don't like regardless of context.
19 years.Sorry to hear that. Makes my 3 year account loss bearable. I could go back there but I made a Mastadon and a Bluesky and now a Lemmy.I did a reasonable job of protecting my home IP so I can make another account but I don't care to make the effort. The no private message thing was pretty vile and having to keep an ad blocker active made it bearable. Like a bird being cast out of the nest Its best sometimes to move on. 19 years of your data is enough. Sorry for your loss
i made multiple accounts over the years to spread out the niche and liability of the bans, but with thier AI moderation they jus ttook out all my 1-11yo acccounts, multiples. one of the last account survived temperorily, apparently due to a bug/glitch when it asks you to change your password(they use this to fish people out so they can ban them)
This was a good tactic if you made one make 4 or 5 just in case. I kept only one and when they play the game ''suspicious activty'' change your password and then they dont send the password email then...you know whats up.
apparently it was reported that "change password" was lifting the perma bans, they patched shortly after that. i was making accs solely for niche topics, not involved with the larger ones, that tend to be political, to avoid that situation. i think it only work, because i was using a universities computer to do it.
19 years hell I delete and recreate accounts all the time.
That's how I got permabanned but I did it intentionally because I was sick of their shit and didn't want to have the option to come back.
How do I handle it? I just moved on from that shithole. Honestly they did me a favor.
Leave reddit. If the message is not clear already, I don't know what is. More than half of the content there are bot-generated, AI slop... I can assure you, there is nothing of value on your reddit account that you want to hold on to. Let it go
I said that I moved on from that shit hole.
That's the way I see it.
Exact same thing happened to me. I think it was the narwhal app that did it. I was temp banned for making fun of Kevin Durant. Not joking. Automod is hilarious. Anyhow a day later permabanned after 15 years. Mods won’t undo it and denied my appeal. I had an alt that I hadn’t switched over to in a long long time that was subbed to some subs my main isn’t subbed to because I want to keep their activities separate. I wonder if literally just the existence of an alt is triggering some stupid new AI Moderation avoidance tool. Fuck Reddit.
Reddit, busy working hard on becoming as shitty as it can be. Full of idiots and the ignorant.
Just keep making accounts and talking shit about Is Not Real
Ugh, /pics is a real dumpster fire. Mods run it like a business, everything must be bland and mindless.
I got past my ban by just waiting a few months. I guess they drop banned IPs after a while. Had to make a new account of course.
Got my first ban for saying someone was doing something to keep criminals out of the store (in a white community, btw) and they said it was racists against black people and banned me, then autobans from other communities that mod was a mod of hit me. I repealed it asking for any sign of racism, or indeed racism in any of my long post history...they muted me, and blocked me. Reddit is trash. And yes, you can ban evade there, I do it to troll those communities and just be a trash person to give the mod more work. Look up the reddit anti-banevasion tech they use. If you want to make a hobby of bot-spamming their crap with clanker slop posts... hypothetically.
Got banned for calling Canadian convoy idiots “flaggots”. Every time I try to make a new account it gets banned. Assume it’s mostly bots now.
List of things I was banned for:
Video of a quadcopter that a human could fly in:
Some moronic question regarding bicycle repair:
Saying that 'anyone who features prominently in the Epstein files deserves the rope'.
I was just permabanned for calling Ann Coulter racist, because I "promoted identity-based hate or attacks." Because apparently saying racism is bad is... Bad. After I appealed this obviously wrongful ban, I was permabanned again for literally no reason. When I appealed that ban, they swiftly responded saying my appeal will not be granted, without ever saying what rule I even broke.
14 years down the fuckin drain. The biggest thing keeping me on this mortal coil is the promise that one day I will read Steve Huffman's obituary
i had a 11yo account banned, although i dint use it for a long time, because i forgot i only found out because reddit was to massive purges at the time. with thier AI, they found almost all the accounts, and this probably happening to other people too. they retroactively ban people thats why the purges were so pervasive, plus they also apparently ignored the "wait how long before you can comment in a subreddit after getting banned" unofficial rule too.
Im relevant now. Welcome to the club!
Your only mistake was not being banned 19 years sooner.