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Morale is plummeting among ICE agents over long hours, quotas and public hatred: reports

While immigration officers support the Trump administration’s goal of deporting undocumented migrants, many of them have grown ‘disillusioned’ with leadership’s tactics, according to reports

Morale is “plummeting” among federal law enforcement officers tasked with carrying out the Trump administration’s aggressive anti-immigration operation, as they complained that long hours, ambitious arrest quotas and hatred from the public, according to reports.

While officers at Immigration and Customs Enforcement and Customs and Border Patrol, overseen by the Department of Homeland Security, said they supported the administration’s goal of deporting undocumented migrants, many of them have grown “disillusioned” with the tactics being implemented by leadership.

More than 20 current and former immigration officials told The New York Times of their discontent in the hours following the fatal shooting of 37-year-old nurse Alex Pretti by a federal agent in Minneapolis.

It was the second deadly shooting of a U.S. citizen carried out by a federal agent in weeks, as officers clashed with protesters following intense public anger over the violence in Minneapolis.

Morale is plummeting among ICE agents over long hours, quotas and public hatred: reportshttps://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/ice-agents-morale-reports-minneapolis-shooting-b2907742.htmlOpen linkView original on lemmy.world
lemmy.ca

Unionize and demand better working conditions, like lower quotas, only criminal record targets, proper long training, and 32-hour work weeks. Strike to get it. Get fired in the process. 😂

E: Learn radical left ideology in the process.

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piefed.social

The Border Patrol officers are literally in the same union as the nurse they shot in Minneapolis.

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You shoot a union member you should be kicked out of the union or pay damages through the union. Solidary shouldn't be this blind.

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But that's not why they joined ICE. They are there explicitly to terrorize and kill people, and to feel like the masculine versions of themselves they are too weak to actually be.

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It's crazy that it's literally illegal for federal employees to strike.

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Eezyvillereply
sh.itjust.works

Them quitting is a good first step but wont solve the underlying issue. ICE recruited Nazis. They will be Nazis with or without ICE.

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But they won't have the authority, protection, and power of the state to carry out violence.

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Manjushrireply
piefed.social

The Nazis are not the ones with the moral morale problems, I'm sure. They are all walking around at half-mast over the hate they are receiving and the atrocities they are committing.

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Logireply
lemmy.world

To be precise, the Nazis do have plenty of moral problems. They're not the ones with morale problems.

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Fuck that.

Prior conditions.

ALL the prior conditions. U.S. healthcare will prove to be just as fatal, optimizes suffering, far more expensive, and the frustration of knowing you could be cured easily by a functional system run by a caring society.

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hopesdeadreply
startrek.website

I don’t know if this is true, but the employment contracts supposedly have a repayment clause. So the assumption is many people are financially unable to quit once they are hired.

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chocratesreply
piefed.world

It's a unique ice thing. I've heard they are paid a bonus and are on the hook to give it back if they don't work 5 years. Ofc they could just not spend it but assuming they did they owe the government money if they quit.

I don't care though, they are murdering people in the streets

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Its not unique to ICE its how hiring bonuses work all over the US. Its not universal but it is a common practice.

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Its actually really common in the US. Hiring bonuses get paid out at the end of the first year but are paid on the first day. The repayment is pro-rated based on how long you worked.

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Yes of course. Every job in the United States starts with a debt contract /s

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I’ve never heard of this before but it is a real thing. I would chock this up to the Administration not wanting to really pay anyone… thus trying to ensure they don’t get massive numbers quitting.

Also, anyone notice that all the people working for DHS during all of this that media has captured in public are men? Is that by design or do women have better morality?

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My wife told me about some lefty podcast she listens to where the host was recruited by them and went through the process just to take a peek behind the curtain. Apparently the 5-year repayment thing is real, at least going by the contract they gave her.

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novibereply
lemmy.ml

They all got massive sign-on bonuses. If they quite before 5 years they have to pay 10k per year they left early.

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For sure but I feel even the ones that want to quit won’t, because of this. That’s all I meant 🤷‍♂️

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lemmy.world

Oh, we don’t just hate you, ICE agents, we want you in prison for the rest of your lives at the very least. Or publicly hanged like the Nazis you are.

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z3rOR0nereply
lemmy.ml

The morning after Benito Mussolini’s death, partisans dumped his corpse in Milan, and an angry crowd soon converged. The mob kicked, spat at, and urinated on the body of “Il Duce” while shouting curses at the dead dictator. His mutilated corpse was then hung upside down from a gas station, a symbolic retribution for the suffering he had caused.

Source

EDIT:

Furthermore:

Their bodies were left in a heap, and by 9:00 a.m. a considerable crowd had gathered. The corpses were pelted with vegetables, spat at, urinated on, shot at and kicked; Mussolini's face was disfigured by beatings.[53][54] Allied forces began arriving in the city during the course of the morning and an American eyewitness described the crowd as "sinister, depraved, out of control".[54] After a while, the bodies were hung by their feet from the metal girder framework of a half-built service station.[53][54][55] This mode of hanging had been used in northern Italy since medieval times to stress the "infamy" of the hanged. However, the reason given by those involved in hanging Mussolini and the others in this way was to protect the bodies from the mob. Movie footage of what happened appears to confirm that to be the case.[56]

Wikipedia Article

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unphazedreply
lemmy.world

Of all the shit I know about Mussolini, the most fucked up fact that sticks with me is that he laughed at running over a child. That is the piece of shit he was.

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There are hundreds, if not thousands, of ""Israeli"" soldiers who have done the same thing over the last few years.

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I do want them in prison forever, but I'm not really hopeful that will happen.

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lemmy.world

In 10 years, these assholes are going to hope nobody in their new neighborhood finds out they worked for ICE under Trump, or else they'll have to move again.

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pelespiritreply
sh.itjust.works

Speaking of, did anything happen to that list of agents? Are people finding their neighbors on it?

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Soulgreply
ani.social

I'm pretty sure that's how they found the pastor of that church was an ice supervisor

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cabillaudreply
lemmy.world

You mean David Easterwood? The pastor who leads the ICE field office in St. Paul? This David Easterwood?

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A lot of people who fall into these bigoted extreme mindsets in my experience get there because they are surrounded by people who are only slightly less bigoted. So while Jerry may be yelling the n word at black people, when the black people aren't in the room, half of the rest of the room starts using the same terminology.

I've stopped going to specific places here Tennessee because that's how many people were acting.

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The lot of them should definitely not be allowed to work in any public service role ever again. Thats after they are released from prison and put on a mandatory reporting violent offender list.

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lemmy.world

Morale is plummeting among ICE agents

I'd like to know how this compares to the morale crisis reported about 6 months back. Is it consistent or has it gotten even worse.

as they complained that long hours, ambitious arrest quotas and hatred from the public

Total lack of empathy. Their complaints are all about the impact on them. "We work too long, too hard, and without proper recognition". No thoughts given to the cruelty that they release into the world.

many of them have grown “disillusioned” with the tactics being implemented by leadership

Is it just the actions of leadership that bother them and not their own actions? Is their complaint not that they are murdering, harassing and unlawfully targeting the most vulnerable among us (children, elderly sick, etc) because they don't like the color of their skin? What changes are they hoping to see? Parades that celebrate their cruelty? Pizza parties for the team with the youngest person disappeared? An Amazon gift card for the most laws ignored in a month?

“It’s completely unfair to the agents who have been put in this position,” he added. “There’s only so much they can handle before bad things start to happen.”

Nope. It is completely fair. They are 100% responsible for their own actions. The agents are the ones committing these acts. They can refuse illegal orders, they can resign, they can obstruct, they can be whistleblowers.

"The violence and dehumanization of these men and women who are simply enforcing the law must stop."

Aaah, so close. They almost had a moment of recognition.

“All of the sources support the mass deportation agenda, but have serious hesitations about the way it is being carried out and the messaging that comes with it,” ... “Many of the sources have expressed frustration that ICE is routinely blamed for the actions of Border Patrol, a completely separate agency.”

Again with the complete lack of personal responsibility or awareness of the consequences of their own actions

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prolereply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

“The violence and dehumanization of these men and women who are simply enforcing the law must stop.”

Unbelievable.

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this is the propaganda machine at work. this is what the moral apathy of a man turned empty vessel. this is the banality of evil. it has been with us for decades, even centuries. this form of evil is common many places.

it is, unfortunately, extremely believable

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Total lack of empathy.

It is my unfounded, unsubstantiated belief that this is the biggest reason why ICE was chosen for the gestapo-like role they have now. If you take every last department with manpower and guns, the role of "disrupting and upending the lives of otherwise peaceful people" is far and away the one responsibility that differentiates it from all other roles. Like working in an abattoir, empathy just gets in the way of processing illegal immigrants for deportation. A total lack of empathy was a job requirement before all this kicked off. We shouldn't be surprised that this is what we're up against.

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"The violence and dehumanization of these men and women who are simply enforcing the law must stop."

simply enforcing the law

That's going to be the "I was only following orders" of the American Nuremburg Trials.

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Sounds like a bunch are just covering their asses with the "just following orders" line. Look, you can follow orders, ones you may not even be privy to even being lawful (I'd imagine there might be assumptions made in a few scenarios), but the moment you learn a warrant wasn't signed, or that excessive force is used, etc. You are now culpable and an accomplice to a crime. I can watch a friend a rob a bank, but if I do nothing, even if I'm told to be quiet about it, I will be tried for that crime as well.

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lemmy.zip

Don't buy these cope articles. Been seeing them over a year now. The Trump administration's fracturing. Republicans are rejecting Trump. And now we have this. Don't buy it they're trying to make you complacent. Trying to make you slow down and take your foot off the pedal.

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Don’t buy it they’re trying to make you complacent.

They're not. They're encouraging us to keep up the pressure because it's starting to work.

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Basically anyone that's good news, isn't. At least these days.

But I do hope it is somewhat true. I would love to hear about rampant depression and a 100% "an hero" rate.

I don't cheer for that often, but sometimes it seems 300% justified.

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Oh no, ICE is sad that everybody hates them for murdering people in the streets and putting kids in concentration camps :( Guys you're being really mean.

How about you grow a spine and quit? Oh wait, if you had a spine you never would have joined.

Get prepared for "low morale" the rest of your lives motherfuckers. You'll never outrun the shame and hate, traitors. I hope you never find peace.

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This reminds me of the story of the IDF soldier who couldn't eat meat anymore because he crushed too many Palestinians under the bulldozer he was driving.

I don't feel bad for any of these fuckers and I hope it gets worse for them.

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They have to realize that eventually people are going to start fighting back, too, and their leadership don't give a fuck about them. They're a means to an end, and that end is getting people to riot so Trump can declare it an insurrection. If they think they fear for their lives now, wait til people start responding with actual force, not the imaginary threats they complain about.

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To quote an ICE officer after the execution of a citizen peacefully protesting, "Boo hoo".

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lemmy.world

Hey, ICE agents. A really good way to permanently solve your morale problem would be if you hanged yourselves. All the problems you've caused yourselves, your families, your communities, and this nation would be over. Please, do it. You are all unloved and untouchables. You will never be so again. It'd be easy. Google can even teach you how to tie a noose.

You ICE agents might as well do it now before society brings its revenge on you. It'd be less painful.

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piefed.social

If you are one of those people criticising peaceful protest as "not enough" this is proof it does something. It may not be enough on its own, but despite everything, they're people and they suffer from repeated, massed, loud criticism and insults. This is the mechanism through which peaceful protests can work.

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Also, it's very important to be numerous and visible. Most people feel the need to follow the herd and go along with whatever the majority is doing, to a greater or lesser extent. Very few people will act in isolation. Protests are a show of numbers, and that makes a huge difference in helping people to contribute in still greater numbers. Just as it erodes morale on one side, it boosts it on the other. And if in the end, the situation must devolve into violent confrontation, those numbers will make all the difference.

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lemmus.org

Peaceful protests and don't sell anyone associated with ICE any food until they die of starvation, peacefully.

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Seriously though, I think businesses refusing service to ICE is a powerful form of protest, even if they don't starve.

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They are not the gestapo, they are the SA. The gestapo have their origins in pre-Kaiser Germany to prevent socialist uprising BECAUSE OF COURSE IT WAS!

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The only thing that needs to plummet is their bodies from the gallows. Fuck the feelings of mass murdering, mass torturing nazis.

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Yep. It's coming. It's hard to imagine now but these are people who, if they live long enough, they inevitably die miserable.

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lemmy.zip

Wait until they inevitably face actual consequences, then you'll really see their morale drop.

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lemmy.world

So when do we get the movie about how invading Minneapolis made the ICE agents sad?

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And are they gonna make it loke a Vietnam veteran flick from the 80s? Except have them opening fire onto people holding milkshakes or something? Or maybe edit it to make it like they were under heavy machine gun fire and took massive casualties while their humane and PC leader from afar told them not to do anything before they went 'fuck it! Enough with this woke shit!' And returned fire after half their unit was dead?

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lemmy.ca

None of those guys could get real jobs, and there isn't that much demand for mall cops.

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Think less Paul Blart and more Ronnie Barnhardt from the movie released two months after PB:MC.

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Jesus, I think you just figured it out. It's all the dead malls.

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Who would have thought Amazon caused all this by killing brick and mortar stores and malls, thus creating the mall cop to ICE pipeline.

All this time I thought it was caused by Amazon dumping money into the Trump administration. Completely different.

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sh.itjust.works

I hope they realize that if the US survives Trump, having "ICE: 2025-?" on your resume will make you completely unemployable in the future. It will be like having "groundskeeper at Epstein Island" under your experience. You'll be radioactive. Even if you leave it off, if you look suspiciously like a thumb and have a blank spot on your resume during this period, people will just assume that you worked at ICE and kick you out of their office.

It's already too late to just quit. If you were a member of ICE and didn't quit after Good was murdered, people will rightfully assume that you were OK with that murder. The only hope current ICE employees have is to turn whistleblower. Record in detail all the crimes your cow-orkers are confessing to, and then get that evidence to AOC or Elizabeth Warren, or another competent democrat with a backbone.

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I somehow doubt this.. there will always be people in need of thoughtless, violent, thugs.

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cub Guccireply
lemmy.today

And that's exactly why they will continue to be ICE employees

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cub Guccireply
lemmy.today

You can't abolish ice by pretending the people will eventually vanish into nowhere or get ok with public ostracism. That's marvel story, bud.

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lemmy.world

It has to be abolished via legislation. But the legislation won't pass without overwhelming public support and a willingness to primary anyone who doesn't support it. ICE was a mistake. It is beyond reform, because the only people ICE hires are people who voluntarily apply to join ICE.

At no point did I advocate letting up pressure or the ostracism these nazis have earned.

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cub Guccireply
lemmy.today

Ok we're talking different points here, let's disentangle.

There are legal procedures like aforementioned abolishing of ICE, DHS, what have you. I'm absolutely here with you my dear USAmericans.

But also there are other things like hundreds of thousands enraged men. If Trump fails today, they will grow resentful to move Vance or a worse big mouth GOP Nazi into the office tomorrow. You will either need an analog to Speziallager or some other magical measures like propaganda or forced lobotomy.

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But also there are other things like hundreds of thousands enraged men.

The way we fix that is by being credibly willing to address their problems. Actual problems, not the bullshit they've been fed. Homelessness, poverty, healthcare, wages, childcare, addiction treatment, a legal system that many of them are just now noticing is unjust and Kafkaesque, even something as simple and universal as burnout, all the evils wrought by capitalism. This is why I'm so fucking angry at centrists all the time. Their dishonestly held power within the Democratic Party has resulted in there being no party willing to address these issues with any level of credibility. Without a credible way forward, they'll find a con man who at least acknowledges that their problems exist.

Incrementalism is not a credible solution. It's a way for people who do nothing to justify doing nothing.

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Something needs to change to stop the cycle of angry people who know they have no prospects falling for fascist propaganda about how they’re going to improve things. But the camps weren’t it. The movement to rid the government of all nazi affiliates in this way was slow and complicated. It disabled significant parts of the government which slowed down the economy, delayed important work like repairing infrastructure and thus made prospects even worse than they had to be for said disillusioned young men. Then the Soviets and the Brits and the U.S. all found some people too important to remove from their posts which left the Nazism in place and bred resentment about why some people were punished for their roles and others weren’t. The Soviets liked the camps the most, but because they believed in purifying the masses’ ideological beliefs. Which is papering over some of the practical policies therein.

What saved Germany from the masses of disillusioned men was actual opportunity and rising standards of living. What’s causing a ‘conservative’ resurgence there and in the U.S. and elsewhere is the backslide in those areas. The answer is improving people’s lives, or at least not worsening them. Admitting we need to change what is and isn’t considered ‘creating value’. Focus on caring for our young and elderly and caring less about how many physical hours you must waste standing or sitting or walking around somewhere because a middle manager likes owning your time. But if we want to leave oligarchs in place to toy with our health and happiness and then put ourselves in camps every so often that’s an option too I guess. I just feel as though that’s part of the cycle, not breaking the cycle.

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You will either need an analog to Speziallager or some other magical measures like propaganda or forced lobotomy.

Listen I'm not opposed to mandating lobotomies for ICE agents, in fact that sounds quite fun, but I think the problem you're referencing could be significantly lessened by actually providing high-quality education (all free of course) and actually meeting people's material needs.

Not fixed, mind you, but significantly lessened.

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"If I look you up in this database of Trump-era ICE employees, am I going to have to kick you out of this office?"

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Well, I got fired the security position at the walmart for being too racist. I know, I didn't think that could happen either, Then the dollar store decided to run with just one person per shift, so I took a couple years off to work on my boat project, then I started working for іcє, until everone started getting mad at me for murdering someone or something, then I had to lay low for while, so i slept on my friends couch for a couple years. Now, I'm here lookin ta make a difference at Holiday Time Santas.

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feddit.org

As sad as it is, I fear that you shouldn't isolate them completely. Yes they fucked up and I completely understand your hatred, even feel the same, but there are just too many of them. I am not saying that you should copy post WW2 Germany in that regard, but at least take note

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mercreply
sh.itjust.works

There aren't too many of them, there are only about 20,000. That's 0.005% of the population, or about 1/3 of the number of homeless people in LA. They could simply disappear into the seams in the country and nobody would ever notice.

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feddit.org

Only 20k yet. The SS had about 260k at the start of the war and you're still a few years away frim that. Give it some time and maybe things will look different then.

Don't get me wrong I'd love to have every single on publicly shamed and hanged

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T

meant to reply to the comment above yours regarding what a small %age of the population belong to ICE

Apologies

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ALQreply
lemmy.world

I think it's probably with all of the fucks no one has for these bastards.

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They love it, it's the best job they ever had. They get to do what they've always wanted--have power over people, order them around, and beat the shit out of them as much as they want, knowing they won't be held accountable.

Anyone that statement doesn't apply to, has either quit already or never considered taking a job like that in the first place.

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I know me and my lib friends would feel super duper owned if they all blew their brains out.

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lemmy.world

"Waaaaaaaah! Waaaaaaahh! I'm an ICE Agent, and I feel bad! Waaaaaaahhh!!! I'm an ICE Agent, and nobody likes me! Waaaaaahh! Waaaaaaahh!"

Go eat curb, Fascist goons.

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Who would have thought that people would not love pedophile protectors and murderers terrorizing Americans.

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Awwwww the poor gestapo has their feelings hurt? The moral is low after shooting nonviolent protesting citizens? They feel bad for racially profiling off duty cops? They are in the dumps because the public hates that they are taking away civil liberties and constitutional rights? Then fucking quit, cross the line and take a stand. Maybe you won’t be on trial once the dust settles and the Nuremberg trials II electric boogaloo start.

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lemmy.world

Adverse selection. The folks that stick around are going to be the meanest, dumbest, and most cynical

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It's kind of wild how much this is tracking with nazi germany.

The Brownshirts were Hitler's first paramilitary force but ultimately became a liability due to their sheer incompetence / stupidity.

So came the Night of Long Knives.

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lemmy.world

I'll be interested in what their morale looks like when we get their names. Fucking Nazis.

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Oh no, the gestapo is getting hassled over murdering people and its hurting their poor feefees.

I feel so bad for them. /s

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Dude. I've looked everywhere. I can't find a single fuck to give!

Seriously! They're not under the couch or in the fridge...

Hold on... Nope none in my hat.

O well 🤷

The next day: so I did find a whole bunch inside the toilet water tank. Unfortunately I've decided to hold on to all them and I'm not going to be giving any away.

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lemmy.world

You made your bed, now sleep in it you nazi fucks.

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I don't fully buy this. All the gravy seals "militia" guys that we saw in 2018-2022 are just stoked to have a job that pays them for their LARPing now.

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So many butt hurt moron Nazi fucks fell for the sign on bonus bait and switch. They'll have to put up with this job for FIVE years to get that shitty 50,000 bucks which won't even be worth jack shit by then.

Also the dumb straight-edge fucks probably don't even realize the original Nazi were on amphetamines 24/7 for 20 years.

We'll see who can outlast who.

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maybe they can solve the problem for us all, and go out like their heroes Goring and Hitler

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lemmy.world

Poor ICE psychopaths and sociopaths, no one loves them, only the leader and his minions.

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lemmy.zip

Considering the ICE agents of today are going to be this administration's patsies of tomorrow, I'd argue that not even Trump and his cronies love these fools. They're a means to an end.

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Stephen Miller probably sees them as pure cannon fodder and would love nothing less than a wholesale massacre of those bastards so he can have an excuse to talk about how much he personally needs to be dictator.

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Zero fucking sympathy. Those cunts only signed up like reactionary teenagers because everyone else told them their ideas and bigotry were shit and now they're whining that people continue to consider them and their bigotry shit.

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  • That gig-economy gestapo job is not so great: WHO KNEW?
  • Trump is a man-child tyrant who lacks the business sense God gave to a gnat: UTTERLY BLINDSIDED
  • Shunning professional medical advice in favor of stickin'-it-to-the-libs memes in the days of a global pandemic: A REAL WHOOPSIE-DAISY

Surprises await you around every corner when you're this tragically inept.

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I mean that should have been the moment they had north america's largest child prison. Possibly the world's largest.

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lemmy.world

ICE has been living in a snowflake bubble thinking the majority of us do anything other than hate them.

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When the morale of SS soldiers dropped after shooting so many people, the Nazis came up with the extermination camps.

Let's hope history doesn't repeat itself.

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And maybe the fact they will be labeled as pariahs or jailed after all this is done, we have the names already and it's not hard to get the records once this is all over.

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Fascists always blame the details of how fascism was carried out for why their plans collapse, they are by definition too cowardly to admit they chose to amputate their humanity in order to arrest their tiny picture of the world before it crumbled into hypocrises and paradoxes.

The stab-in-the-back myth (German: Dolchstoßlegende, pronounced [ˈdɔlçʃtoːsleˌɡɛndə] ⓘ, lit. 'dagger-stab legend')[a] was an antisemitic and anti-communist conspiracy theory that was widely believed and promulgated in Germany after 1918. It maintained that the Imperial German Army did not lose World War I on the battlefield, but was instead betrayed by certain citizens on the home front – especially Jews, revolutionary socialists who fomented strikes and labour unrest,[1] and republican politicians who had overthrown the House of Hohenzollern in the German Revolution of 1918–1919. Advocates of the myth denounced the German government leaders who had signed the Armistice of 11 November 1918 as the "November criminals" (November­verbrecher).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stab-in-the-back_myth#Second_World_War

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Fuck that. You knew what you were getting into when you signed up, you're only upset now because you have to work longer and harder than you thought you would.

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So these clowns joined up because their echo chamber made them feel like they were going to be some kind of hero. But when they got out in reality, they found...reality. People hate them, they're destroying families, holding kids hostage, and murdering people. There are definitely a number of them getting off on what they're doing, remorselessly. For others it may just be a shit job, a lousy place to work. But for a few, I bet they finally figured out that they aren't who they thought they'd be viewed as.

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aww, so sad. maybe quit and wait for your trials, you traitors.

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lemmy.world

Obviously false. You have to be a human being to experience emotions like that.

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Even fish experience emotions... these guys are evil.

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“All of the sources support the mass deportation agenda, but have serious hesitations about the way it is being carried out and the messaging that comes with it,” Melugin added.

They're fine with it, they're only upset with some of "minor" details.

“Many of the sources have expressed frustration that ICE is routinely blamed for the actions of Border Patrol, a completely separate agency.”

Border Patrol was assigned to help ICE; ICE is supposedly in charge of these operations. Maybe ICE should be more discerning about what people or agencies they accept help from. And if they don't like it that much maybe they should be be exercising tighter control and oversight of the people working for them.

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These are people who, after this regime crumbles, will consider themselves the equivalent of Vietnam Vets, shunned by society.

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They're gonna be the little old men in the neighbourhood who get weirdly insistent and angry that they were somewhere else when the next generation talks about the war

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They have brought deep, deep shame on their ancestors and on their descendants; a kind of stain on entire family trees that doesn't simply fade.

I'd say shitty morale is understandable, if that reality were somehow managing to tunnel through the Monster Energy and Ivermectin boiling around their pickled brains.

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Mark my words, if there's not a mass of trials putting these thugs away in a few years, there will be a whole slew of them claiming they're disabled due to ptsd for their shitty behavior

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Boo-freaking-hoo! You do the crime, you do the time. Can’t wait for all of you to get thrown in jail.

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Oh poor little babies. Lets all play the tiniest violins in the world for the feelings of those that have done their level best to be the most hated people in the country right now.

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Can't they all just go back to their paramilitary shacks/camps in the woods where they will train even more to protect themselves and the citizens against a tyrannical government? Can't they? Don't they know they've been fooled into helping the tyrannical government? Don't they? /s

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This is the WORST news I've heard ALL YEAR!

-Democrats with NO Primary Challengers!

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Quit or just don't fucking show up to work and stop bitching about working for the guys who run america's largest child prison.

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if they think being a domestic terrorist has been hard, wait till they experience being an inmate after they are prosecuted.

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Do the smart and right thing by cashing cheques as long as possible while doing nothing

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It’ll be extra crispy when they don’t get their promised bonuses and benefits right before probably never being thrown in jail

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Good. Maybe a little "combustive confrontation" will convince them to finally fuck off.

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