Spyke
lemmy.zip

This is AI generated (source). I spent a while looking at the image trying to find the usual tells. It's kinda scary how hard it's getting to tell AI generated images apart from real ones. I'm sure with a powerful enough model, enough iterations, and the right prompt, it's almost impossible to tell in some cases.

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otacon239reply
lemmy.world

What really throws me are their poses. They’re all in poses that you typically see them in from public sources. Elon smoking a cigar was probably part of the prompt, unless I’m unaware of something. Tim Apple even doing the classic stage pose.

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architectreply
thelemmy.club

Yep. Also half those dudes wouldn’t willfully chat with Musk like this. They can’t stand him either.

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That’s what caught my attention too. They poses look like they were taken from keynotes. Especially, Tim Apple’s pose.

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To me the tell was that I couldn't see why the most powerful men in the world would just be all standing in a parking lot with no body guards around.
If they really wanted to meet they'd be in a dinner party or some shit.

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lemmy.world

Two things i noticed is Jeff's right ear/hand amalgamation and the feet look funny to the right of sam altman (easier to notice without the meme text). The side blinker on the white car looks a little too embedded in the wheel well but I'm not familiar enough with luxury cars to say for sure if its odd.

It still takes a lot of examination to start thinking its AI where previously 7 fingers would be a dead give away.

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Zuck's face is also completely fucked. He looks like an alien in real life already, but here it looks like his eyes and mouth have been paved over by a layer of skin.

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Apparently that's how blinkers actually look on Porsches these days. It's even a bit shitty in the OP image compared to reality.

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jj4211reply
lemmy.world

Without the usual artifacts, there's still plenty to go on.

The scene just doesn't make sense. They are standing around in a circle parking garage next to a cyber truck. They wouldn't meet up there if they were meeting. Further, think about the camera situation. Looks like someone on a ladder or a drone took a picture from above. That's a weird amount of effort for a pretty stupid shot.

But yeah, if the person has a better sense of plausible scenes, then it's much harder to know if it's an AI image or not. On video we mostly have duration to go by, since LLM vid generation can't hold it together too long (other weirdness happens too of course, but broadly speaking we just can't trust pictures or very short videos).

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Honytawkreply
lemmy.zip

Could be shot from one of those enormous heightened trucks.

And it might also not be a meeting, they could just have ran into each other in the parking lot while going to a meeting.

All pretty viable if you ask me. So not really obvious proof that it was AI.

Are there really no artifacts anywhere?

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So, sure, in this group of only billionaires someone climbed onto the roof of a pickup truck to take a picture, that would be realistic? Trying to picture this scenario and it seems even more awkward than a drone shot.

And again, 7 of the most famous billionaires manage to casually run into each other in a parking lot with no one else around..... Well except the guy climbing onto the roof of a pickup truck to take a picture...

There may or may not be artifacts, I'm not really interested enough to scrutinize, but I'm thinking a lack of artifacts won't be a good gauge when someone can Photoshop out the rest of the way and/or models get better.

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Let’s not teach these hack AI “artists” how to better fool people.

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Didn't Jobs die before the cybertruck was a thing? That's uh... a pretty big indication...

Oh wait, that's Tim Apple...

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feddit.org

I just searched an hour ago through lens only got three hits. Now I get eleven mostly saying it's ai....

Enlighten me pls I'm tripping...

... But they will sure use the AI slope argument against us...

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_stranger_reply
lemmy.world

Ask yourself who took those pictures, why, and for whom. There's no entourage behind or around any of them something that would absolutely never happen when the circle has a combined net worth of trillions of dollars.

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And someone would be taking a picture of them taking a selfie? They would be standing in a circle in a parking lot while someone gets above them to take a shot from above, either on a ladder or a drone? Forget the situation, the logistics of the pictures themselves just don't make sense either.

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I thought it was just a bad Photoshop as the boundaries between them and the scenery is too sharp.

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lemmy.world

Only if we changed the tax laws right after. Otherwise the broken system will just create replacements

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only difference with tech ceo's is that a handful are relatively public figures. Finance CEOs have a stake in everything, mostly publicly faceless. Even the ones directly appointed around the Trump admin, non-news. The food/beverage conglomerates, mostly publicly faceless. Dupont family poisoned the world, mostly publicly faceless. Weapons exporters, mostly publicly faceless. Real estate investment trusts, mostly publicly faceless. Insurance companies and pharmaceuticals, mostly publicly faceless. Mob justice almost always fails because it's easily swayed towards fall guys and/or it's so minor to just be a pyrrhic victory. Expended so much effort for something that'll wash over in short order. Next guy up

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lemmy.world

He looks like those teenagers who smoke thinking that would make them look cool lmao what a giant loser! In a context on who's the biggest loser he'd arrive second because he's a loser

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Hupfreply
feddit.org

I read that in the insulting Frenchman's voice from Monty Python and the Holy Grail

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_stranger_reply
lemmy.world

It's pretty obvious, they're all wearing their "presentation clothes". The llm put them in those clothes because that's what they wear in the media is has most indexed.

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Honytawkreply
lemmy.zip

Not like they can wear those clothes in public then, right?

They are way too flamboyant for every day use!

/s

Really, no better argument on why it is obvious?

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You made the argument for me. Under what circumstances would all of them be in a parking lot in a circle all wearing the clothes they're most famously seen on stage in? Why aren't any of them wearing a t shirt or have a hat or wearing red? It's convincing because it's exactly what you expect to see.

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BanMereply
lemmy.world

This is a real thing, brands jockey for top position on one of their bodies because it can influence the rest of the group and trickle down into their tech leadership. Articles have been written about it but it's usually ugly shoes and very discreet, unlabeled sweaters that cost $5k. It's really sad because they're so fucking vapid, there's not much else to do, and they don't have a lot of real friends.

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lemmy.world

They have zero real friends, and no one loves them, save their young kids before the kids catch on. The one exception might be Warren Buffett, but that is not to imply that he is a good person.

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Warren Buffett disowned his granddaughter for having the temerity to speak with on camera about the family's excessive wealth, with one of the Johnson & Johnson heirs.

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lemmy.world

Imagine how many global problems could be solved with just one bus at this moment.

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lemmy.zip

Been immediately thinking the same thing lol... If god existed and gave a modicum of fuck about us humans he would have made that fucking tesla explode twice over

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wiesonreply
lemmy.world

We made the billionaires and expect god to remove them for us?

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I was thinking more about all the children that die every day as part of "gods plan".

He works in mysterious ways you know

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fishyreply
lemmy.today

It's amazing all our minds went right there.

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All that ford pinto energy with a more explosive package and better shrapnel. Its hard to miss.

... That and its hard to not see an oversized pinewood derby car wrapped in compensation. (Its ugly as fuck)

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lemmy.world

They were all gathered! Missed opportunity to improve the world significantly.

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Empricornreply
feddit.nl

Someone else investigating and saying it's AI-generated is very different from saying "here's this fake image, AI did it." This is all going to get much worse...

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Different guy here, finished reading all comments—just happened to read though.

Any thought on editing your title just to add [AI] or [Generated]?

So folks don’t scroll past and mention this image to a friend later and get “bro that wasn’t real!!” (how embarrassing ;) )

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God, there was such an opportunity to just fucking floor it through that parking lot

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fedia.io

How do they decide who gets to eat the cookie?

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Aw man! Where's a drone strike when you need it?

It's funny because drones were probably being used to murder children the moment this picture was taken so that these shit stains could have more money they eventually just set on fire and use to light their cigars.

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Lower tech would be funnier, hot potato with a live grenade.

Elon would probably grab it and start to make a speech about how he's the only person in the world that really understands how grenades are made.

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Luigi is sick. I know this because they postponed a court date. But that doesn't matter because he was with me!

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You can also tell it's fake because Elon doesn't have a cool bone in his body to pull off smoking a cigar like that. Imagine how stupid he would look if he really was smoking.

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A guy who was fired as CEO but blackmailed his board to get rehired in 48 hours. But we don’t need to talk about that anymore.

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~$1,162,000,000,000.

If I'm not mistaken, these guys are totaling ~$3685/second in interest based on a 10 year market average.

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If they were actually talking for 5 minutes, it's over $1,000,000. Lol. Don't know if these guys have ever actually met at the same time though

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10 seconds and I've paid off my student loans, my car, and have enough left over to pay tuition for my upcoming year (attending school while working full time of course, because no one pays my living expenses and I get denied financial aid because I'm an adult who has too high of an income to qualify, because, ya know, I have to have an income to pay my damned rent).

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lemmy.zip

Is Lisa Su excluded because they don't respect AMD or because they don't respect women? Hopefully because she isn't actually evil and doesn't wanna be there.

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It's because is about wealth, not tech, and Lisa isn't even in the top 1000 richest people.

EDIT: Looked up, and it seems that Cook, Altman and Pichai are also too poor for this circle

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dan69reply
lemmy.world

They would have had their engineers figure out a way to pass that around..

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They dont pass the Dutch to the left hand side; theirs goes to the far right.

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I didn't know there was a douche bag conference going on. Glad to see its board members meeting up

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sopuli.xyz

sorry to all the crackheads who kept trying to warn us of a secret cabal plotting to take over the world, you were, unfortunately, cooking

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"You don't need to make up a secret group of wealthy evil people running the world to be mad at -- You can just be mad at the group of wealthy evil people that we KNOW run the world out in the open" ~ ROSSI, Milo

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Anyone else see a red circle at their feet, or is that just me?

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Those are the fall guys. Where are the people of the MIC? Where are the ones with the water rights? Nobody needs Facebook to survive, but everybody needs food, water and medicine.

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If you think this picture should be a movie, then good news. It's called Mountainhead and it's from the guy who wrote the really very good Succession.

Mountainhead isn't as good as that (and seems like it was written quite fast as it's about the current AI bullshit), but by fuck does it get their vibe and language dead on.

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I already miss those halcyon days when if I saw a photo or video I could be reasonably sure whether or not it was computer generated.

Provenance is going to matter again, and chains/webs of trust are always a heavy lift.

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gtr
programming.dev

Why does it seem like everyone is looking up to Elon?

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lemmy.world

More space between him makes a stage. Likely others are somewhat avoiding the smoke.

My speculation.

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I prefer to be optimistic that everyone's reaction seems to be aligned with humanities best interests.

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Organizing wont help. It wont change. The same "System" that allowed them to get to where they are, is the system allowing you to live. People need jobs, money, purpose, things to sustain themselves. Nobody will fight for the "greater good" or follow any principles, should their own "world" be threatened. They'd rather look down and do as they're told, due to their own responsibilities or addictions. The system allows this and few "chosen ones" exploit it. They create jobs, make money, make system depend on them, becoming "untouchable". Should they vanish, they will just be replaced. Should their company suffer, the system will bail it out, so it doesn't collapse and people don't go crazy. There's too many fucking people for any system to be created in a "fair way", for it to have equity for everybody, purpose for everybody and meaningful life for everybody. Don't ever expect it to change, unless something catastrophic happens. We, as a species, don't fucking learn and when we try to change it, the system is already "too big to fail". Focus on something else, dont bitch about the reality as it is or youll go insane. Just keep in mind that things in this reality oscillate, "evil" will consume itself, and times change between good and bad. Given the fact that we have had it too good for a while (from historical point of view) its only statistically logical that the bad times are ahead.

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When their companies collaps, the energy market will shrink to the cheapest suppliers.

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