So she's actually as repugnant as he is, and her views are just as bad. I can't remember her name and I can't be bothered to look it up because fuck her, but she's a minor influencer in the Conservative sphere. She goes on the streets and does those stupid shock value "interviews" with strangers.
For anyone curious, this is from a series that a Lefty political commentator, Luke Beasley, did, where he and her sat together and tried to have measured discussions about their views. It was interesting, but it only went on for about 6 episodes, and it was rocky the entire way.
Its all up on YouTube. And I watched. And despite her showing the smallest glimmer of understanding occasionally, she ultimately could not be convinced to change her views. It didnt help that her vile ass husband was behind the camera the entire time.
Lastly, her husband didnt overtly say the above quote verbatim, but it was definitely heavily implied. This wasn't putting words in his mouth, its a legit view he has.
you should also notice that's the conservative worldview in general. people only have a right to exist as long as they're useful to society in one way or another. the same also appears in the work context, where they're sternly against "handouts" because they don't want to give "lazy" people a way to exist.
people only have a right to exist as long as they’re useful to society in one way or another.
And the view of the current conservatives in power in the US is that you can only be useful to society in very specific ways: For women, it's reproduction and home making, and if you dare break out of that you are "destroying society".
If you're having sex with a woman, you're having sex with someone that likes dick. People who like dick are gay. Having sex with a gay person makes you gay.
The only way to stop being gay is to never touch her again, otherwise you're touching someone who has touched a dick and by the transitive property that makes you gay. Touching your wife is gay.
Yes, and on top of that, pooping is slightly gay. Also, using your hands to pee is gay because you're touching a dick. Also sitting down to pee is gay. And do NOT wash your penis, unless you're super gay.
What about when you're out shopping and you're unloading the contents of the trolley onto the conveyor belt at the checkout and you accidentally touch your wife's box of tampons/panty liners?
Does that make you gay??
I guess you're already gay at that point for unloading the trolley
What if you are in a manly bar drinking manly beer. And you strike up a manly conversation with an other man about lumberjacking or something. And when you talk about sharpening your manly axe, you accidentally touch their hairy hand. Which causes your piercingly manly gazes to lock like the door on a sportscar.
So you start talking about WWE and show each other how to perform a death grip with your arms tightly around each other.
Then you want to test the strength of their lips, by giving them a manly kiss.
And you carry them like a firefighter into a toilet stall to compare your manly leather underwear.
And you end up fucking the shit out of each other.
Dear Aunt Agatha,
I own a dick.
I like to have my dick caressed by other dick-loving individual.
What does that make me?
Sincerely,
All-out-now McJohnson
As an econometrician / data wonk, I'm pretty sure we are past 'plausible', more like well into 'you could do a legitimate scientific paper on this and essentially prove it, and now we're arguing over error bounds and precise methodology'.
Yeah, was gonna say - this guy is another one of the "always, in every context, thinking about gay sex" closeted Republicans. Religion does this to them, the systematic and merciless repression of sexuality causes it to become an immense burden.
Religion does this to them, the systematic and merciless repression of sexuality causes it to become an immense burden.
Not just for the ones in the closet either. Hetero people are told their entire lives that sex is bad and internalize that their desires are evil, then they get married and you expect them to suddenly have a healthy sexual relationship?
I think they just romanticize Western antiquity which often saw sex as a manifestation of power and control rather than an expression of intimate connection.
Sound bite listening republicans on facebook, twitter, etc. These people exist so there is a big enough 'ecosystem' to capture the common person who is swayed by public opinion. That is, where public opinion is the vague sense they have of everyone agreeing with them because it's all they see between little puppy videos or recipe videos or their weird aunt ranting about democrats being evil.
Look, so do I, but there's a clear difference in a lot of ways between how folks consume media. I see a relative doing it in a way that's just... sad. I would put reddit's way of it, even with all the algorithmic bulldonkey, above facebook or tiktok feeds.
Whilst your both correct, I meant that he was a non factor till I learned of him (today). It's clear he's, at the very least, garbage at fucking his wife
That's a common urban legend that has been pervasive, but is still untrue. Conservatives get ZERO pussy, and that problem was conquered in 1976 when they began to reproduce asexually.
Everyone knows the Other Team is a bunch of unfuckable losers, while Our Team is irresistibly sexy. "Liberals get ZERO pussy" is the line you'll see all over conservative online communities, typically complimented with "Look at these ugly idiots saying stupid shit" meme material.
At the same time, "all your teenagers are getting pregnant" is a line conservatives and liberals love to throw at one another. So you get to bend your brain into a pretzel trying to explain why everyone is - simultaneously - incel homebodies nobody wants to fuck and trailer trash having a dozen kids out of wedlock because they can't control their animal urges.
It was a joke. I don't think that way.
Which is why I put something absurd and outlandish at the very end, so no one would possibly think I was being serious.
Can you imagine choosing to fuck a democrat? Id want to find ouf many many kids she has to know how much welfare she getting. Spin the wheel cuz she has at least 1 std.
Oh, she doesn't want a husbsnd, she just wants the money from child support.
Look republican girls are just as stupid and shitty, if you decide to "pick a side" and you are red or blue, just leave my colorless ass outta your bullshit.
Edit: basically if a large part of your "identity" is being left or right. Red or blue. Democrat or or republican. I dont particularly want to talk to you.
I also realize it may be an intelligence issue. I may to stupid to understand all the minutiaes. But alas, politics sucks.
It's really sad to see what Donald has done to people's brains. Enjoying good sex with one's wife is now checks notes gay, and raping children on an island is checks notes Ephebophilia.
It’s really sad to see what Donald has done to people’s brains.
This isn't Trump. This is standard conservative brainworms going back to the Limbaugh Era and before. Just textbook Protestant-flavored Homophobic Misogyny. Dig through James Dobson's prodigious backlog of public brainfarts or poke around in the Joe Pyne archives, you'll find similar sentiments and commentary.
Enjoying good sex with one’s wife is now checks notes gay
Anything that gives a person undeserved pleasure is sinful. And the Protestant Work Ethic teaches us that only productive economy-stimulating labor is a worthwhile pursuit. Sex is a job, not a hobby. You do it to make the babies, not to experience any kind of corporeal pleasure.
raping children on an island is checks notes Ephebophilia
That falls under the "Very Rich Guy's Addendum" to the Protestant Work Ethic. If you're rich, it proves you worked harder than everyone else and none of the working class rules apply.
There have been a number of religious secs that believed pleasure during sex was sinful. The Shakers forbade sex altogether, thus, no more Shakers. Others accepted that sex was necessary but tried to come up with methods to remove or decrease the pleasure. A blanket strung down the middle of the bed with a hole in it.
"According to Men's Health, soaking is when a man puts his penis inside of a female partner's vagina. They then lay in the bed and have someone else shake the bed to cause movement"
They think of it as a loophole to get around the whole "no sex before marriage" thing.
I learned about the Shakers and Quakers back in elementary school but can't remember much about them. I didn't know they were celibate. So I looked into it and there are only 3 left in the U.S.
A new person has joined the last active Shaker community in the U.S, bringing the Christian, communal, and celibate group to a total of three. They once numbered in the thousands.
Interesting. Thank for showing me a rabbit hole to dive down.
I picked up a fascinating book about Shaker furniture and architecture at a thrift store a while ago. Their religious ideals led to some extremely functional designs of furniture and structures that honestly can still be useful today. For example, Shaker chairs are designed with extra tall backs to be able to be hung up on the wall to make it easy to sweep underneath them when cleaning
I've seen a theory that the shakers were specifically founded by a handful of aromantic/asexual folks and basically built a community for aro/ace folk before any acknowledgement of these concepts existed. Given their views on equality and functionality it does not take much of a leap of the imagination to see how such a community could form from a bunch of autistic aro/ace folks in a period when any of those characteristics would make it difficult to survive
I hate to play the devil's advocate here, especially since I believe all MAGAs are douchebags, but Luke Moody's stupid statement could also be interpreted a different way, like maybe he meant that he impregnates his wife every time he gives her an orgasm. So, like, once a year, tops.
Please feel free to ignore this if you're not comfortable talking about this with strangers on the internet, but I've always wondered what keeps people persisting in a relationship like that. It's easy for me to say, but I'd imagine having sex would definitely stop being appealing if it's a one-sided affair. Not sure if I'd have the fortitude to put up with that to such an extent it'd result in three kids.
Please enlighten me if you can, I'm honestly hoping to learn what mindset or circumstances got you to this point.
Glad to hear you managed to get away from that situation, and thank you for sharing.
I appreciate learning about things like this, and to see that empowerment enabled you to take active control of your life.
Exactly! Ugh, if these miserable, global extremist, sacks of dog shit hate freedom so much, why won't they all just go build a man made floating island somewhere in the middle of the ocean and leave the rest of the world alone, instead of dragging us all into a fucking holy war just to force us to be miserable too?
Answer:
A. They aren't actually capable of creating/building anything on their own, and are completely reliant on exploiting others because they're a bunch of talentless cocksuckers.
B. They thrive on the attention/theatrics of it all and need a captive audience.
C. Even if they suddenly woke up to a world where every need was met and everyone was exactly like them, they would be even more miserable nobody was paying attention to them, and still find excuses to go to war with each other.
Girls don't hate their guts. Conservative women recognize this as virtue signaling and respond with the TradWife Pageantry in kind. These kinds of statements are purely performative. If you've grown up in these communities, you know that what you say in public (especially on TV) is totally different from what you do at home and behind closed doors.
There's an old joke popular out in Utah. "How do you keep a Mormon from drinking all your beer? Invite over a second Mormon."
When you're first introduced to the culture, its hard to realize that everyone is lying constantly. But the longer you live in the miasma of deceit and bullshittery, the easier it is to recognize that nothing these people say is for anything other than appearances. You should know better than to believe them. They don't really expect you to believe them (and periodically express frustration when you can't catch a fucking hint and play along). And so long as everything you're up to remains sub rosa, nobody wants to check.
Hes making a blanket statement about sex for reasons other than making babies. He says having sex just to have an orgasm, is gay sex. Not that he does, or if you make your lady cum, its gay.
Hes saying that you, me, everyone, who has sex ONLY to have an orgasm, is having gay sex. See the difference?
I think it's a case of them thinking what the title says, but knowing it makes them look shitty, so trying to couch it in a way that makes it open to interpretation, or at the very least gives them plausible deniability.
Like a lot of right wing commentators/popular people. Talk bullshit around the point everyone knows you're making, so when people call you out on it you can go "I specifically say that, so that's not true, and you're actually the ass hole for acusing me of it"
Yeah, the culture wars are just so annoying. So many people talking memes as gospel truth. Its like seeing a picture of Yoda next to the quote "Live long and prosper" and thinking it must be a star wars quote.
That's the main delusion of every MAGA, fascist, racist, Islamist, whatever "I'm superior by birth" ideology everywhere: they believe they are the elite and powerful.
Why is western civilization so focused on diversity when its definitely not like that in other countries. Think like Japan, middle east, Africa, south America... no one is clamoring for diversity there. White people aren't invited anywhere, but we're supposed to invite the whole world to come intermingle, live and dilute any culture we still have left? Is it some sort of racial guilt that whites feel like they have to atone for? Are white countries prone to superiority complexes? Ive often wondered what itd be like to live in Switzerland or somewhere similar. That mighta triggered some... dont get your panties in a bunch.
America is the big mixed bag. I think we're better and stronger that way. I have only love for my brothers with different complexion than my own.
But I digress... and come back to my point, why are white/western nations/culture berated to be diverse when all other darker nations are anti immigration on the whole.
I wont even touch my wife to be on the safe side of not giving her orgasms, only way to be sure is artificial insemination. In massive debt, but no homo.
Dennis Prager has like an hour long video where he removed about the differences between "men and women" and openly admits that he's a) never been found attractive, 2) doesn't really have pleasurable sex, and c, had a kinda creepy relationship with his dad.
It's wild to me how different some people's lives go. I suspect him and I would find each other's lives equally unimaginable to see ourselves in.
And yeah I've always suspected a lot of the anti sex conservatives are on the ace spectrum or have some sexual trauma that manifests by suppression of desire, and completely lack the self awareness to not force their lack of desire onto others. Especially amongst asexual conservative men, who feel that not wanting women is emasculating and so they moralize and project. They make sex entirely about power or reproduction. It's easier than getting themselves and their peers to decouple masculinity from heterosexuality.
They perceive any act in service to anybody but themselves as weakness. People say they're like this because they're afraid of being seen as feminine and that may be true for some but I think many others just want to live in a world where they have no accountability and can take whatever they want while being praised by the people around them for the scraps they leave behind.
I am 100% certain a large amount of conservatives have a massive cuck fetish and they get off on signaling it to the world. Why else would you admit not being able to satisfy your wife on what seems to be a press conference?
Probably: He was breast fed until he was 5 or 6. His mom burned him and said the devil is in him when he looks at other girls or touched his "devils thorn". He feels shame when he is hiding with his wifes socks and transporn keeps popping up and making him just a little more excited.
if you are talking about gay sex all the time, and thinking about you might be in the downlow. by the way there are category of porn for gay "white supremecist, conservative types to.
I don't care if this is real or not, satire or reality but we need like 1000x more of this content everywhere. This is the kind of shit that triggers most of the silent majority crowd. Gargling dongs is apparently the ultimate sin.
I'm guessing she is not interested anymore apart from when making babies. He will discover later that she was in fact having sex with someone else probably
You guys are misinterpreting this. He's not far off the mark since the only time she has had an orgasm with him was that one time he gave in and let her use the strap-on.
Ironically, that kinda is what he said. The meme is misrepresenting what he actually said, for some reason. Without getting too deep into it, he basically said that sex that wasnt for the express purpose of making babies, was "gay sex". The mention of orgasms, was in relation to this. Not about his wife, or about not giving your wife orgasms. Just that having sex only to have orgasms was "gay sex".
So, yes, he basically said that anyone having sex that wasnt about making babies, was gay...
See there's a problem here. My philosophy is that she gets off. No matter how hard I work at it. However I can't just go up and tell women this.
I thought I couldn't date hot women because of my appearance. So they'd never find out my philosophy.
It actually turns out I can't date hot women, especially hot women like this, because hot and intelligent are uncorrelated (not positively or negatively, just no correlation). This woman, in particular (assuming that's his wife) is physically attractive, but given her choice of partner, is clearly unable to think. Why the fuck would I be sexually attracted to someone who can't think.
Which explains why I don't even bother following up. The slightest hint of stupid makes them unattractive. So it's not my appearance, is it? It's something else that's wrong with me. I'm like biologically elitist.
Competence and intelligence are attractive, you aren't elitist, that is so reasonable. Not saying there's nothing wrong with you, I don't know you. But wanting someone competent that you can talk to, that is a normal thing to need.
Look no offence but there’s certainly some arrogance in thinking that what you think of as “can’t think” or “[ability] to think” in any way correlates with reality, or is based on anything but shallow subjectivity.
Every single day I give off so many “hints of stupid[ity]”, and it’s the people who subsequently put me in an idiot box in their head that I simply can’t stand. Honestly I couldn’t revile anyone more.
Well, crealry this guy is some sort of a fool despite his connection to MAGA. Secondly, I wonder if someone even tried to explain to him something and he ignored or no one even bothered to do so?
Well, differently from the movie, she can always "unchoose".
Not if she keeps voting Republican
That is a choice.
But not pro choice.
Ctrl+alt+R
I'd have gay sex with her
So she's actually as repugnant as he is, and her views are just as bad. I can't remember her name and I can't be bothered to look it up because fuck her, but she's a minor influencer in the Conservative sphere. She goes on the streets and does those stupid shock value "interviews" with strangers.
For anyone curious, this is from a series that a Lefty political commentator, Luke Beasley, did, where he and her sat together and tried to have measured discussions about their views. It was interesting, but it only went on for about 6 episodes, and it was rocky the entire way.
Its all up on YouTube. And I watched. And despite her showing the smallest glimmer of understanding occasionally, she ultimately could not be convinced to change her views. It didnt help that her vile ass husband was behind the camera the entire time.
Lastly, her husband didnt overtly say the above quote verbatim, but it was definitely heavily implied. This wasn't putting words in his mouth, its a legit view he has.
A life without gay sex will do that to anyone
X
So long as she kept her mouth shut.
To talk.
No wonder MAGAs are obsessed with Cucks, their wives are desperate to feel something other than pain.
It's mad how far I had to scroll to find that you're the only person who's clocked how she's looking at him
Men will say anything to avoid admitting they're bad at sex.
Sounds like he just doesn't want to have sex with his wife. That's pretty gay.
also specifying, he only giving her orgasms, so theres no enjoyment on his end.
... They could try saying the alphabet, that's at least a place to start.
Isn't this basically trying to roll back women's position in society from people to baby makers?
Yeah. That's essentially it.
I'd argue that he's just trying to claim that the reason no woman has ever gotten pleasure from sex with him is because he didn't want her to.
No other way to see it.
you should also notice that's the conservative worldview in general. people only have a right to exist as long as they're useful to society in one way or another. the same also appears in the work context, where they're sternly against "handouts" because they don't want to give "lazy" people a way to exist.
And the view of the current conservatives in power in the US is that you can only be useful to society in very specific ways: For women, it's reproduction and home making, and if you dare break out of that you are "destroying society".
Capitalism, you say? :-D
Everything is gay.
... Have you not encountered a Republican before?
If you're having sex with a woman, you're having sex with someone that likes dick. People who like dick are gay. Having sex with a gay person makes you gay.
Checkmate libtards.
Now I have to tell my wife I've been gay all these years.
The only way to stop being gay is to never touch her again, otherwise you're touching someone who has touched a dick and by the transitive property that makes you gay. Touching your wife is gay.
Is wiping your arse gay?
Yes, and on top of that, pooping is slightly gay. Also, using your hands to pee is gay because you're touching a dick. Also sitting down to pee is gay. And do NOT wash your penis, unless you're super gay.
Definitely. You're gay just for asking.
Ok, thanks for clarifying.
I've got another...
What about when you're out shopping and you're unloading the contents of the trolley onto the conveyor belt at the checkout and you accidentally touch your wife's box of tampons/panty liners?
Does that make you gay??
I guess you're already gay at that point for unloading the trolley
Exactly. You're in the grocery store for something other than beer? Gay.
And that ignores the fact that just buying feminine products makes you Uber-Queer.
I have an other.
What if you are in a manly bar drinking manly beer. And you strike up a manly conversation with an other man about lumberjacking or something. And when you talk about sharpening your manly axe, you accidentally touch their hairy hand. Which causes your piercingly manly gazes to lock like the door on a sportscar.
So you start talking about WWE and show each other how to perform a death grip with your arms tightly around each other. Then you want to test the strength of their lips, by giving them a manly kiss. And you carry them like a firefighter into a toilet stall to compare your manly leather underwear.
And you end up fucking the shit out of each other.
Is that gay?
Only if you don't get her pregnant.
I'm guessing the logic is:
Gay people only have sex for pleasure (because they can't reproduce), therefore, all sex for pleasure is gay.
Its like saying fish only swim in water because they can't go on land, therefore, all creatures that swim are fish.
If you interpret gay in the original meaning ("full of joy, merry, light-hearted, carefree") then yes, having sex with your wife can be gay sex.
someone warn the bees
Damn didn't know Lemmy drafted Aristotle. Another win for the Fediverse.
Dear Aunt Agatha,
I own a dick.
I like to have my dick caressed by other dick-loving individual.
What does that make me?
Sincerely,
All-out-now McJohnson
You said dick three times in your letter. If you say the word dick that means you're thinking of a dick, and that makes you gay.
Hmmmm,
That explains the string of dudes in my grindr and the butterflies in my tummy everytime I think of dick.
No, that's completely normal for everyone.
Lol that was pretty good
Pretty funny i found this post right on top of another and they pair pretty well
Oh damn. Same here, but different.
The whole party is stuck in the closet terrified to come out
Given the grindr stats that follow them wherever they go, this seems plausible.
As an econometrician / data wonk, I'm pretty sure we are past 'plausible', more like well into 'you could do a legitimate scientific paper on this and essentially prove it, and now we're arguing over error bounds and precise methodology'.
Yeah, was gonna say - this guy is another one of the "always, in every context, thinking about gay sex" closeted Republicans. Religion does this to them, the systematic and merciless repression of sexuality causes it to become an immense burden.
Not just for the ones in the closet either. Hetero people are told their entire lives that sex is bad and internalize that their desires are evil, then they get married and you expect them to suddenly have a healthy sexual relationship?
I bet, the next thing he said was "Dominating another guy is alpha male behaviour".
Getting your boywife boipreggers is completely heterosexual behavior
If you fail to get him boipreg, then it just means you are not masculine enough, and need to try again. And again. Until you get that butt baby.
Heh, so the ancient Greeks were on to something?
Also the Roman elites literally only had sex with their wives to procreate. For pleasure they went to the brothel or fuck a slave or concubine.
i think that's also how it worked for medieval nobility
I think they just romanticize Western antiquity which often saw sex as a manifestation of power and control rather than an expression of intimate connection.
He's trolling, right? Like he can't be seriously sitting there saying that?
I mean, a whole lot of them really do seem to want to go back to Roman/Greek norms, so uh...
Does this toga make my (UwU) look fat?
Who is Luke moody and why would anyone listen to that garbage of a human being?
Sound bite listening republicans on facebook, twitter, etc. These people exist so there is a big enough 'ecosystem' to capture the common person who is swayed by public opinion. That is, where public opinion is the vague sense they have of everyone agreeing with them because it's all they see between little puppy videos or recipe videos or their weird aunt ranting about democrats being evil.
But I like little puppy videos...
Look, so do I, but there's a clear difference in a lot of ways between how folks consume media. I see a relative doing it in a way that's just... sad. I would put reddit's way of it, even with all the algorithmic bulldonkey, above facebook or tiktok feeds.
I'd have to know who he is to know he's garbage
Really? All I need is that quote to know.
I mean, I just need that photo of him in that hat.
Whilst your both correct, I meant that he was a non factor till I learned of him (today). It's clear he's, at the very least, garbage at fucking his wife
Can you imagine being a woman choosing to fuck a Republican?
This implies women can't be as bigoted as men and i can tell you they most CERTAINLY can
I don't really think it does. I'd think an awful bigoted woman would want to have an orgasm during sex just as much as anyone else.
Want and deserve, tho, are very different.
I can definitely see them being convinced orgasms are bad. They were convinced to vote for a rapist
I can't imagine treating someone I love that way.
They may be getting them. Just not from their husbands.
The icecream man can handle it.
That's a common urban legend that has been pervasive, but is still untrue. Conservatives get ZERO pussy, and that problem was conquered in 1976 when they began to reproduce asexually.
Everyone knows the Other Team is a bunch of unfuckable losers, while Our Team is irresistibly sexy. "Liberals get ZERO pussy" is the line you'll see all over conservative online communities, typically complimented with "Look at these ugly idiots saying stupid shit" meme material.
At the same time, "all your teenagers are getting pregnant" is a line conservatives and liberals love to throw at one another. So you get to bend your brain into a pretzel trying to explain why everyone is - simultaneously - incel homebodies nobody wants to fuck and trailer trash having a dozen kids out of wedlock because they can't control their animal urges.
It was a joke. I don't think that way. Which is why I put something absurd and outlandish at the very end, so no one would possibly think I was being serious.
I'm not sure they all choose.
Imagine being a woman and being a Republican
Can you imagine choosing to fuck a democrat? Id want to find ouf many many kids she has to know how much welfare she getting. Spin the wheel cuz she has at least 1 std.
Oh, she doesn't want a husbsnd, she just wants the money from child support.
Look republican girls are just as stupid and shitty, if you decide to "pick a side" and you are red or blue, just leave my colorless ass outta your bullshit.
Edit: basically if a large part of your "identity" is being left or right. Red or blue. Democrat or or republican. I dont particularly want to talk to you.
I also realize it may be an intelligence issue. I may to stupid to understand all the minutiaes. But alas, politics sucks.
Yes.
Real intelligent input sir.
It is gay to make your wife's pussy wet?
She has to be in pain otherwise you're a fag that has feelings.
Insanity.
Calm down Ben Shapiro
I pity his wife.
She chose to be his wife.
She can choose not to be at any time.
Can she? Some kind of coercion isn't completely implausible.
Yes.
It is more difficult with coercion, but she isn't chained in a basement.
Also, I seriously doubt she is being coerced.
It's really sad to see what Donald has done to people's brains. Enjoying good sex with one's wife is now checks notes gay, and raping children on an island is checks notes Ephebophilia.
This isn't Trump. This is standard conservative brainworms going back to the Limbaugh Era and before. Just textbook Protestant-flavored Homophobic Misogyny. Dig through James Dobson's prodigious backlog of public brainfarts or poke around in the Joe Pyne archives, you'll find similar sentiments and commentary.
Anything that gives a person undeserved pleasure is sinful. And the Protestant Work Ethic teaches us that only productive economy-stimulating labor is a worthwhile pursuit. Sex is a job, not a hobby. You do it to make the babies, not to experience any kind of corporeal pleasure.
That falls under the "Very Rich Guy's Addendum" to the Protestant Work Ethic. If you're rich, it proves you worked harder than everyone else and none of the working class rules apply.
There have been a number of religious secs that believed pleasure during sex was sinful. The Shakers forbade sex altogether, thus, no more Shakers. Others accepted that sex was necessary but tried to come up with methods to remove or decrease the pleasure. A blanket strung down the middle of the bed with a hole in it.
Ever heard of Mormons "soaking?" LOL:
They think of it as a loophole to get around the whole "no sex before marriage" thing.
I learned about the Shakers and Quakers back in elementary school but can't remember much about them. I didn't know they were celibate. So I looked into it and there are only 3 left in the U.S.
Interesting. Thank for showing me a rabbit hole to dive down.
I picked up a fascinating book about Shaker furniture and architecture at a thrift store a while ago. Their religious ideals led to some extremely functional designs of furniture and structures that honestly can still be useful today. For example, Shaker chairs are designed with extra tall backs to be able to be hung up on the wall to make it easy to sweep underneath them when cleaning
I've seen a theory that the shakers were specifically founded by a handful of aromantic/asexual folks and basically built a community for aro/ace folk before any acknowledgement of these concepts existed. Given their views on equality and functionality it does not take much of a leap of the imagination to see how such a community could form from a bunch of autistic aro/ace folks in a period when any of those characteristics would make it difficult to survive
I hate to play the devil's advocate here, especially since I believe all MAGAs are douchebags, but Luke Moody's stupid statement could also be interpreted a different way, like maybe he meant that he impregnates his wife every time he gives her an orgasm. So, like, once a year, tops.
But he can get her off without his dick if he wanted
implying ephebophilia isn't bad
people who care about the difference between ephebophilia and pedophilia are the kind of people who deserve being called pedos.
Or clinical psychiatrists.
If it keeps these people from breeding, then there's your silver lining.
These guys just need to stick with toys and leave women out of it.
I think women would be happier with toys instead of these guys, too. It’s win-win!
Who's this dude and why should we care.
Remember guys, if you don't get her pregnant every single time you have sex then you're gay.
Turns out gay sex is the best sex! 🌈🏳️🌈🌈👨❤️👨👩❤️👩👩❤️👨
🎵 Every sperm is sacred... 🎵
Having sex with your wife exactly once a year to avoid seeming too gay to the homies.
My buddy lost the ability to father children when his balls got crushed by a Jeep in a car accident. Does that mean he’s gay by default?
If you have to ask, you're probably gay
In summary, he has never given her an orgasm.
I had a husband like that once. Three babies but never an orgasm.
Please feel free to ignore this if you're not comfortable talking about this with strangers on the internet, but I've always wondered what keeps people persisting in a relationship like that. It's easy for me to say, but I'd imagine having sex would definitely stop being appealing if it's a one-sided affair. Not sure if I'd have the fortitude to put up with that to such an extent it'd result in three kids.
Please enlighten me if you can, I'm honestly hoping to learn what mindset or circumstances got you to this point.
Religion & being a housewife with no financial leverage to escape.
Until I fixed all that. Now he's been my EX-husband for 14 years.
Glad to hear you managed to get away from that situation, and thank you for sharing. I appreciate learning about things like this, and to see that empowerment enabled you to take active control of your life.
He probably thinks wet ass pussy is a medical condition... at least Ben Shapiro does.
Bro! I'm not gay!
talibans with a red hat
Y'all Qaeda
from Howdy Arabia
Al-Abama
Tumpistan
ICE-IS
Exactly! Ugh, if these miserable, global extremist, sacks of dog shit hate freedom so much, why won't they all just go build a man made floating island somewhere in the middle of the ocean and leave the rest of the world alone, instead of dragging us all into a fucking holy war just to force us to be miserable too?
Answer:
A. They aren't actually capable of creating/building anything on their own, and are completely reliant on exploiting others because they're a bunch of talentless cocksuckers.
B. They thrive on the attention/theatrics of it all and need a captive audience.
C. Even if they suddenly woke up to a world where every need was met and everyone was exactly like them, they would be even more miserable nobody was paying attention to them, and still find excuses to go to war with each other.
D. All of the above (it's this)
And these people wonder why girls hate their guts.
Girls don't hate their guts. Conservative women recognize this as virtue signaling and respond with the TradWife Pageantry in kind. These kinds of statements are purely performative. If you've grown up in these communities, you know that what you say in public (especially on TV) is totally different from what you do at home and behind closed doors.
There's an old joke popular out in Utah. "How do you keep a Mormon from drinking all your beer? Invite over a second Mormon."
When you're first introduced to the culture, its hard to realize that everyone is lying constantly. But the longer you live in the miasma of deceit and bullshittery, the easier it is to recognize that nothing these people say is for anything other than appearances. You should know better than to believe them. They don't really expect you to believe them (and periodically express frustration when you can't catch a fucking hint and play along). And so long as everything you're up to remains sub rosa, nobody wants to check.
No they don't. They don't wonder about anything at all, let alone what women think.
It aint limited to girls, bro beans. Anyone who isnt a fucking idiot hates their guts.
But do all girls hate their guts or are there enough who share the idea for some reason? He has a wife after all
If you care to last longer than 23.4 seconds you might be able to rearrange them in a way they like better.
He has massive closet energy
They have the gay and are constantly running from it.
That works out to the same thing. He thinks sex with his wife is gay.
Yeah I’m really not seeing the difference. Maybe someone can explain it to me.
Hes making a blanket statement about sex for reasons other than making babies. He says having sex just to have an orgasm, is gay sex. Not that he does, or if you make your lady cum, its gay.
Hes saying that you, me, everyone, who has sex ONLY to have an orgasm, is having gay sex. See the difference?
that's the second gayest thing i've ever heard
I think it's a case of them thinking what the title says, but knowing it makes them look shitty, so trying to couch it in a way that makes it open to interpretation, or at the very least gives them plausible deniability.
Like a lot of right wing commentators/popular people. Talk bullshit around the point everyone knows you're making, so when people call you out on it you can go "I specifically say that, so that's not true, and you're actually the ass hole for acusing me of it"
Seems a bit gay if you ask me!
No, he thinks that having sex for any other reason than making babies is gay sex. Not specifically giving his wife an orgasm.
This is why I'm purposefully avoiding news channels and questioning inflammatory news headlines.
Both sides try to amp up their people with BS headlines and once you really see through a lot of it, you end up seeing the manipulation all over.
Yeah, the culture wars are just so annoying. So many people talking memes as gospel truth. Its like seeing a picture of Yoda next to the quote "Live long and prosper" and thinking it must be a star wars quote.
And MAGA men find it weird women don’t want to date them.
Fun idea, but in reality while there was some descrepency, more than 50 percent of white women in the US are MAGAts.
I think the descrepency is bigger when you look at younger people, though its actually starting to reverse somewhat.
Venn with the Taliban is growing.
Y'all-Qaeda
I'm have that kind of gay sex with his wife if she's up for it. I hope the gays cheer me on when we do it too
The Manosphere discovering higher order dimensions in order to twist themselves up into even more complex coping mechanisms.
So, a man having sex with a woman is gay…
Like this man ever gave his wife an orgasm.
Cuz you know, female orgasm doesn’t exist, it’s lefties' conspiracy against normal male behavior /s
Using the Grindr account to avoid having to have gay sex with his wife.
Anyone working that hard to prove to the world (which didn't ask) that they aren't gay, is gay.
Exactamundo!
Sometimes I gotta be really thankful that if it wasn't for dudes like this, women's standards wouldn't be low enough for me to get laid
It's amazingly gay, were very happy when we cum together.
Only if her penis is inside you when you cum.
Fellas
Hats indoors is gayer.
Curved brim, not straight.
Sounds like an excuse not to have sex with a woman. Turns out a lot of these Republicans with weird hangups would rather bang their homies on the dl.
Or an excuse to have sex with her even if she doesn't want to/doesn't like it.
Something about Grindr statistics and RNC conventions...
I really hope that his wife gets and orgasm so amazing that it turns their baby black.
WTF LOL!!
Is this 🫴 ...🦋 bisexuality in the closet?
What kind of bisexual only wants to pleasure their partner once per year?
Her: I’m gonna listen to the village people full blast in the bedroom. Don’t disturb me.
What a way to tell on yourself there dude.
He gay
Doubt this man is giving anyone an orgasm lol
Skill issue
I think their view of women is pretty clear:
Wait till they find out how the elite and powerful view them (and pretty much all of us).
That's the main delusion of every MAGA, fascist, racist, Islamist, whatever "I'm superior by birth" ideology everywhere: they believe they are the elite and powerful.
Why is western civilization so focused on diversity when its definitely not like that in other countries. Think like Japan, middle east, Africa, south America... no one is clamoring for diversity there. White people aren't invited anywhere, but we're supposed to invite the whole world to come intermingle, live and dilute any culture we still have left? Is it some sort of racial guilt that whites feel like they have to atone for? Are white countries prone to superiority complexes? Ive often wondered what itd be like to live in Switzerland or somewhere similar. That mighta triggered some... dont get your panties in a bunch.
America is the big mixed bag. I think we're better and stronger that way. I have only love for my brothers with different complexion than my own.
But I digress... and come back to my point, why are white/western nations/culture berated to be diverse when all other darker nations are anti immigration on the whole.
You answered your own question.
What am I looking at exactly here?
I think it was Mad Max Fury Road
The funny part about this couple is she obviously wears the pants and commands the relationship. These two are weirdos.
Steve Hughes has a great bit on why it's feminine to like women, while it takes a real man to want to fuck another man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5VliEjyohM&t=101
Plato beat him by a few years
Yes, but does Plato have a YouTube presence? I think not.
No channel, no country !!
ancient greek mindset
These guys cannot help but tell on themselves.
The look on her face
record scratch
I wont even touch my wife to be on the safe side of not giving her orgasms, only way to be sure is artificial insemination. In massive debt, but no homo.
Still kind of gay because you're adding an entire medical industrial complex to the sex which some people would consider kinky.
And one of the first steps in artificial insemination is giving a guy a handjob.
And they seriously fucking wonder why women don't want to date them? Are they serious?...??
these people are lunatics
Dennis Prager has like an hour long video where he removed about the differences between "men and women" and openly admits that he's a) never been found attractive, 2) doesn't really have pleasurable sex, and c, had a kinda creepy relationship with his dad.
It's wild to me how different some people's lives go. I suspect him and I would find each other's lives equally unimaginable to see ourselves in.
And yeah I've always suspected a lot of the anti sex conservatives are on the ace spectrum or have some sexual trauma that manifests by suppression of desire, and completely lack the self awareness to not force their lack of desire onto others. Especially amongst asexual conservative men, who feel that not wanting women is emasculating and so they moralize and project. They make sex entirely about power or reproduction. It's easier than getting themselves and their peers to decouple masculinity from heterosexuality.
Really? He seems like such a nice guy?
https://youtu.be/sbwE5zLiWNY
At this point conservatives are just subtly forcing people to be gay.
They perceive any act in service to anybody but themselves as weakness. People say they're like this because they're afraid of being seen as feminine and that may be true for some but I think many others just want to live in a world where they have no accountability and can take whatever they want while being praised by the people around them for the scraps they leave behind.
Yes, I have loads gay sex with his wife.
Poor wife. She married a guy who's too afraid to come out of the closet and who can't pleasure her. I hope they still have a milkman.
Fellas, is it gay to breathe?
The air has oxygenated a penis at one point. Begone you queer air
Extremely. C'mon, we are going directly to the gulag.
Guys is fucking your wife and pulling out gay?
You're all talking about this as if he's gay, but he clearly says his wife is the one having orgasms during gay sex.
If giving my wife orgasms is gay, then call me a removed.
Any kind of pleasure I feel or give is gay, so everyone else should feel the same and suffer because gay is bad. These people and their egos 🙄
"I can't figure out what this button does, so I refuse to use it >:( "
i had someone call me a cuck for saying men should also do domestic labour n not treat their partners like servants lmfao
Magats have a christian foundation, which had people wear a cloth with a hole for sex, in medieval times.
He says he won't do it to cover up the fact he can't do it due to being poorly skilled at sex.
You're being way too generous with him if you assume that
He's gaaaaaaaaay that's why
Her clit bigger than his dick
I am 100% certain a large amount of conservatives have a massive cuck fetish and they get off on signaling it to the world. Why else would you admit not being able to satisfy your wife on what seems to be a press conference?
He might be able, ge just doesn't care, which is worse imo.
I love that for them
So is it gay to masturbate? I mean, you're not impregnating a woman, are you?
No but you're touching a dude and that's gay
Probably: He was breast fed until he was 5 or 6. His mom burned him and said the devil is in him when he looks at other girls or touched his "devils thorn". He feels shame when he is hiding with his wifes socks and transporn keeps popping up and making him just a little more excited.
I assume he doesn't wipe for the same reasons.
This is your brain on MAGA
Amish rules....education restricted to 8th grade since you don't need any more than that.
if you are talking about gay sex all the time, and thinking about you might be in the downlow. by the way there are category of porn for gay "white supremecist, conservative types to.
Yeah, it's called the generic stuff
You couldn't torture that information out of me.
-MAGAt cultists
I don't care if this is real or not, satire or reality but we need like 1000x more of this content everywhere. This is the kind of shit that triggers most of the silent majority crowd. Gargling dongs is apparently the ultimate sin.
sounds like a potency problem.
So do they not have sex or does she just not orgasm?
Yes.
Or alternatively, she orgasms plenty, just not with him.
I'm guessing she is not interested anymore apart from when making babies. He will discover later that she was in fact having sex with someone else probably
You guys are misinterpreting this. He's not far off the mark since the only time she has had an orgasm with him was that one time he gave in and let her use the strap-on.
My right foot was only meant to step on the moon. So I'm not going to use it for anything else!
It's gay if you're watching me do it, f-boy.
I think what they mean is "serving anyones needs but mine and Great Leaders makes me feel bad"
She's looking at him and thinking, Oh that's the reason he's so bad. Good thing I have the pool boy.
What's the woman's name? I suspect she is a beard.
Makes sense it might feel "gay" for him since he is a giant pussy.
(to title) I mean, if you're a woman, yeah :p
What else r should I say....EVERYONE is GAY
What else could I write.... I don't have the right
Ironically, that kinda is what he said. The meme is misrepresenting what he actually said, for some reason. Without getting too deep into it, he basically said that sex that wasnt for the express purpose of making babies, was "gay sex". The mention of orgasms, was in relation to this. Not about his wife, or about not giving your wife orgasms. Just that having sex only to have orgasms was "gay sex".
So, yes, he basically said that anyone having sex that wasnt about making babies, was gay...
Is the "wife" a chick with a dick?
See there's a problem here. My philosophy is that she gets off. No matter how hard I work at it. However I can't just go up and tell women this.
I thought I couldn't date hot women because of my appearance. So they'd never find out my philosophy.
It actually turns out I can't date hot women, especially hot women like this, because hot and intelligent are uncorrelated (not positively or negatively, just no correlation). This woman, in particular (assuming that's his wife) is physically attractive, but given her choice of partner, is clearly unable to think. Why the fuck would I be sexually attracted to someone who can't think.
Which explains why I don't even bother following up. The slightest hint of stupid makes them unattractive. So it's not my appearance, is it? It's something else that's wrong with me. I'm like biologically elitist.
Competence and intelligence are attractive, you aren't elitist, that is so reasonable. Not saying there's nothing wrong with you, I don't know you. But wanting someone competent that you can talk to, that is a normal thing to need.
Look no offence but there’s certainly some arrogance in thinking that what you think of as “can’t think” or “[ability] to think” in any way correlates with reality, or is based on anything but shallow subjectivity.
Every single day I give off so many “hints of stupid[ity]”, and it’s the people who subsequently put me in an idiot box in their head that I simply can’t stand. Honestly I couldn’t revile anyone more.
Well, crealry this guy is some sort of a fool despite his connection to MAGA. Secondly, I wonder if someone even tried to explain to him something and he ignored or no one even bothered to do so?
Despite?
Yes. Yes, they are. All of them. Sincerely, the rest of the world