Trump says ‘no one knows what magnets are’ during bizarre Oval Office exchange
The Republican party truly is the Insane Clown Posse.
Magnets, how do they work -Republicans.
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He really believes his thoughts are the totality of human knowledge.
This is common with these sociopaths. Our middle-aged techbro overlords too are hugely ignorant, yet convinced that the only knowledge worth having is what they already know, and the only jobs worth doing are the ones they can do.
Welcome to the Dunning-Kruger administration.
"Dunning-Kruger 2028" would make an amusing yard sign.
https://youtu.be/NUeybwTMeWo?t=11
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I can't wait for the remixes of this and Trump
He hasn't even gotten that far. He doesn't know what they are, never mind how they work!
Insane Clown President
He does wear face paint
And he also sucks
Hey, now. The Insane Clown Posse are anti-Trump. And their album "The Great Milenko" is actually pretty fun to listen to.
That's good.
The first thing.
I'll take your word on that last part. Better safe than sorry.
I listen to all types of music...
Beatles, Pink Floyd, NIN, Beck, Prince, Sinatra, Springsteen, Bing Crosby, Debussy, Gaga, Hendrix, Fat Boy Slim, Dr. Dre, DiFranco, Lamar, Hank Williams Sr., Buena Vista Social Club, and B.B. King among many others.
Used to work in a music store so it opened up my ears and mind to several different artists. But yeah, ICP is not for everyone.
Via.
Message received loud and clear
That motherfucker's lying and getting me pissed.
There was a British comedian I remember from a while back.... Matt something... that talked about meeting a Texan couple on a plane once and the wife expressed her amazement at the marvel of flight, which is fair because flight is pretty amazing. But instead of just being amazed, she then said something like, "we'll never know how it all works". Like a collective we, like everyone. Like she thinks that aerospace engineers are just guessing, trying out throwing shapes into the sky until something doesn't drop to the ground. "Nope. Sphere didnt do it. Probably shouldn't have filled that one with people, either. Let's try the cube next!"
Some people are so stupid they don't realize that they are stupid and that plenty of people, MOST people, in fact, are smarter than them and understand a lot of stuff they don't. Like it's not even Dunning-Kreuger because they dont know the first thing about the subject at all, and they will even admit that often times. Just unadulterated hubris to assume their ignorance is universal.
Everything is simple if you don't know anything about it.
Isn't there some question about the specifics of the mechanism of lift itself? Not like "this shouldn't be possible!" but more "it's easier to explain than it is to understand"
No, the science and engineering is well understood and can be calculated entirely in models that use this knowledge to precisely predict thinks like lift and drag. There is no guess work or mystery about it.
However the common "facts" that we are often taught as explanation to children and the layperson for lift are wrong and/or incomplete. The Equal Transit Theory, i.e. the idea that when a wing splits the air, the air above and below must meet at the same time on the back of the wing causing the air on top to have to move faster due to the greater distance to travel, is just not true.
However that lower pressure above the wing that doesnt actually result from the Equal Transit Theory, that part is true. It is caused by the deflection of air on the underside of the wing causing the higher pressure underneath and lower pressure over the top. Lower pressure over the wing does in fact cause a component of lift due to Bernoulli's Principle. But it is also not the entirety of the source of lift. Other components include the Coanda Effect from the curvature of the wing redirecting air downward, as well as the just simple propulsion caused by the propeller(s)or jet(s) and downward deflection of air hitting the underside of the wing, which is basic Newtonian motion (3rd law).
Huh, okay. I don't really keep up with all of the little fandoms, so thanks for that!
No
Having worked in my checkered past in aerospace for a decade or so, there's a very small grain of truth in that. While there is a lot of enginneering that goes back to first principles (physics and math), there are also what are euphemistically called "empirically determined constants." That's because, even when the equations are known, they can sometimes be a pig to actually compute ("ill-conditioned"), requiring absurd amounts of computer power.
So if I were on the plane next to that couple, I'd have said "Yep, we're flyin' on a wing and a prayer and there's a non-zero chance we could auger into the ground at any time. But don't fret, it doesn't happen all that often."
Ignorance is bliss.
The God Emperor of man wills it, that's how flight works
Damn, that's crazy, where are the Epstein files?
Under a pile of Chinese magnets - but no one knows how or why they work so they're frightened of touching them incase they get wet, stop working and the world stops turning.
Probably in the process of being shredded and redacted.
Pardon my hopium, I do hope it's not misplaced -
Given that it was a blackmail operataion among other things, and it would be mutually assured destruction if any holder of the documents tried to redact themselves and expose others. There must be some level of proliferation of at least partial copies of beyond incriminating evidence on a larger swath of people in current power that we could possibly know now.
They wouldn't be above using it in party infighting, but there's no "faction" within the republican party with enough institutional power to get away with the backblow if they were to try to excise certain members. Which does mean there's still a clock on this, but the fact that they haven't just released with Bill and Hilary as the only two on the flight logs and dropped it, leads me to believe that this is the stalemate they're collectively in.
What are files? Files - how do they work?
Whenever he tries to repeat the patient, over-simplified explanations that have been given to him and screws it up because he still didn't understand what they were talking about, I picture the scenes that must be occurring on a regular basis:
People standing around him, some drawing pictures, others arranging things on the table, "Say this coffee mug is the nuclear enrichment facility, and this pen is the Tomahawk missile. It goes woooooooooooooooooo through the sky..."
Explanation doesn't include talk about him. He'd lose interest half way through.
So, basically In English, Please?
How the fuck is this guy still in power? Hes clearly mentally ill/demented.
You guys overthrew us British for far less.
This is an insanely good point.
Don't let this distract you from the the fact that in 1966, Al Bundy scored four touchdowns in a single game while playing for the Polk High School Panthers in the 1966 city championship game versus Andrew Johnson High School, including the game-winning touchdown in the final seconds against his old nemesis, Bubba "Spare Tire" Dixon.
If we can explain to the morons that a tarriff is a tax, we might get somewhere. I seem to recall us being upset about taxes on "hemp" and "British coffee," or something.
Your country is headed the same way if you don't replace Starmer with someone more engaging. People want change, if they dont get it from Labour, they'll get it from Reform.
Rich people wanted to revolt against the British. That's why. Bottom up change is a lot harder.
Is this Donald j Trump, self avowed best friend of Jeffrey r Epstein, and fellow child rapist?
Yes, that's the one! Famously buddies with Epstein and credibly accused of sexual assault of children on several occasions. Convicted felon Trump, the very same.
Do you mean the same Donald J Trump who was convicted of Sexually Assaulting E. Jean Carroll?
Because if so, that's almost like being a Serial Rapist. I'd say raping someone is just about as bad as murdering them, wouldn't you agree? Totally unrelated, just a random curiosity.
Oh, most definitely. I'd say rape could be actually worse than murder. The murdered person is dead. The raped person is still alive and has to deal with the trauma.
Jesus Christ. Charlie Kelly is smarter than him.
"Hello fellow American. This you should vote me. I leave power. Good. Thank you, thank you."
Tide comes in, tide goes out. Can't explain that
The Erath is flat. Can't explain that either.
Remember when a person this fucking stupid couldn't get elected the highest officer in the States?
Twice.
Nope. But then, Reagan had Nancy at his side to provide the smarts.
And Nancy had her astrologer.
I used to like to think that maybe all his predecessors were just better at hiding it. But then he says something like this and I just can't
Insane Clown Posse as president and vice president would be an upgrade. Actually, America needs a third party anyway. Next election, someone run under the Insane Clown Party banner. Might as well let an actual carnival take over.
Shit, I'd definitely vote for Violent J over any Republican for president.
Expect a circus elect some clowns.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf3n5A4uLsk
Totally forgot this happened. I think this strengthens my point.
Someone probably tried to teach him how rare earths are important to manufacture electronics like he is five years old. And like a five year old he is, he of course didn't understand.
Is this a Tesla spinoff??
No. The resultant object will just reach equilibrium on one of it's sides.
If this guy wants to be taken seriously he's gonna have to start wearing more makeup than trump
And a candy floss wig to boot
I'm lost for words. Every time he says something, it's the dumbest thing I've heard. And I always think to myself, this is it. this is peak stupid. There is no way he can say something dumber than this with a straight face.
I really thought we peaked when he tried to tell their Navy, that they don't know what happens when you put water on a magnet. The god damn navy.
But here we are. With the president of the USA, telling us, with a straight face, being serious, that no one knows how magnets work. Next he'll probably try to tell us we don't know how electricity works.
everything is projection with these anti-intellectual shitbags. they don't understand how ANYTHING fucking works, beyond the grift, and therefore NO ONE could possibly know.
dear god hard drive disks alone..... so fucking dumb.
Here's the smarter way of saying it:
Feynman: Magnets (and Why?)
He wouldn't make it past the first few minutes. Even if he has the capacity to get the points Feynman was making, he'd never sit and actually listen to try and understand something. Remember, he already knows everything. Except when he doesn't, and because his ego is so massive, if he doesn't understand something, clearly no one can. Or when he learns something, no one else knew it before.
Why are there so many comments on that vid about insane clown posse? Weird seeing as how this post also mentions them. I'm sure there's a reference I'm missing but icp sucks and I'm not tryna care enough to listen to garbage.
ICP have a meme-famous lyric that goes thusly:
Why is this notion that science is some great scam so prominent in American culture? Where does it come from? Is it just that people don't understand it and want to feel better about their ignorance?
Yeah, you pretty much get it. Although it’s not about feeling better about their ignorance exactly. It’s that scientists keep telling them to stop doing things that they want to do, and they don’t like being told what to do. Stop beating your kids, stop burning so much gas, stop depleting the biome in your farm soil, stop torturing animals because they have feelings, stop treating women like they are intellectually stunted, etc.
Isaac Asimov said this almost fifty years ago. It still doesn't answer the "why" but it shows how long (at least) this has been going on.
Trump is the sort of person who is so self-centered, he probably doesn't understand that other people know things he doesn't. People like him tend to be conspiracy theorists because they assume anything they don't understand has to be a lie
I won't lie, I wasn't sure how magnets worked when I read the headline. Realizing this, I went and looked it up and educated myself.
Magnets are fucking cool btw.
Dude is clearly incapable of giving a coherent thought even if it was handed to him.
Not "no one knows what magnets are". We all know what magnets are.
More like "most people don't know how important rare-earth magnets are to modern life". That's the more important take.
But trying to express a message through Trump is like playing Telephone with Anne Frank, sooo....
Anne Frank? Do you mean Helen Keller? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Eh it works.
Anne Frank wouldn't be very good at Telephone either. She's dead.
Maybe the name got mixed up in transmission 😄
My brain just mixed up those two names all the time.
It does the same thing with Chris Pratt and Seth Rogan. 🤷♂️
Trump is a hidden Juggalo?
Woah. I mean, yeah he's a clown. But I'm not so sure ICP is down with him.
I have no particular love for ICP, but man, they don't deserve that.
The ICP group is anti-Trump and as silly as the ICP aesthetic is, juggalos seem like generally a positive community. They just want to get high and make friends. They are basically hippies in face paint.
So yeah, I get the connection but seems like this is doing them dirty.
Donald Trump spouting a Juggalo-adjacent line wasn't on my bingo card.
Non fucking stop winning! Look at this man. The smartest man in the world! Y’all wish you were a fraction of a percent as smart of this guy. Your IQ like 1600% lower than his. What a fucking legend.
Also, he’s a pedophile and rapist.
I saw a lot of people say that they genuinely believe that he's a genius. It absolutely blows my mind. Sometimes you hear things like: did you know Macaulay Culkin is an actual genius? (Idk) And you go: well maybe, yeah i could imagine that. But Donald Trump? You couldn't make a supercut out of his delusional talking to make him seem smart.
I like the ones that think he is truth. That he has never said a single lie or misleading statement or anything resembling a lie. Ever. In his life. People actually think this. And those people vote.
Fake it till ya make it right?
There's a clip from months ago of Trump seeming to claim that pouring water over magnets would "break" them like you'd expect it to break electronic devices... Frankly, I'm surprised that it wasn't talked about more.
It wasn't months, it was weeks. I know it feels longer with him constantly spewing idiotic thoughts.
It was actually both. So either nobody corrected him, or they did and he was like ummm, I'm the smartest person in the universe, so I'm pretty sure I know more about magnets than anybody, so I'm gonna keep speaking truth about magnets. Or he forgot because his brain is dissolving. Like the magnets do in water, according to president stroke.
I can't keep track there's just so much
He also stared at a solar eclipse.
Magnets are the mystical technology behind healing beds, also foot insoles from SkyMall.
Sure.
But once you boil down absolutely any physical effect... gravity, light, sound, (literally everything) you eventually get to that point.
The answer to any "why", after a certain number of follow-up "whys" is always always always "we don't know", irrespective of the original question.
Magnets aren't at all special in this regard.
I unfortunately watched the 60 Minutes bit last sunday on farmers getting fucked over by trump (parents had it on). It ended with one of the farmers saying "he's a very smart man, I'm not gonna take that away from him." The thought of the mental state you have to be in to think trump is a genius is just soul-crushing.
Ragebaiting at its finest 🙏
Wait till someone tries to explain Maxwell Laws. If he's talking about quantum mechanics in relation to magnetism, then maybe we can belive him which I somehow doubt he knows exist.
The Maxwell law? Isnt that when trump has to take TWO underage girls to the room instead of just one?
I believe Faraday and Maxwell would like a word...
Fake news, leftist who don’t believe in our lord and savior Jesus Christ.
Dear MAGA, I've a magical formula with which I can create magnet just by using some copper and electricity. If you give me 10Billion USD I'll help you make as much magnets as you want. \s
On the other hand, I’ve never heard a really good explanation of magnetic flux that doesn’t involve a bit of circular reasoning.
I spent 1 year of my bachelor's degree learning Electromagnetism, read multiple 1000+ page books but I still don't understand it fully.
Probably saw it in some passing meme while he endlessly scrolls Twitter and Truth Social between golf and Mar a Lago.
You can't explain that
"Look if you're gonna build a magnet system it'll take 2 years."
I'm glad he doesn't know what the fuck he is talking about because if he did I might feel bad for not understandig.
Percentages, when you go OVER 100% everything make sense.
Magnets, we can make them here because the earth is not so rare here.
Hey, look! This magnet sticks to my head!
It's all around you. You don't even know it.
He is quoting an old meme.