Joe Rogan on Trump's mass deportations: "I really thought they were just going to go after the criminals"
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I always thought he was a dumb media whore, but it turns out that he's stupid for free.
This post is not meant to disparage sex workers, who actually take care of their communityNever bothered to listen to him, but a local stand up comedian has probably watched every podcast episode of his, and discussed it quite a bit on his own podcast: Nobody should listen to Rogan. He's an entertainer and that's it. He'll allow anyone on his podcast regardless of beliefs and he tends to either believe or pretend to believe them when they spew conspiracy theories and other bullshit. His political opinions depend on who's been on his show and that's it. Most guests have been right-wing grifters for a long time now, so that's what he believes.
And that's from a FAN of Joe Rogan.
To his limited credit, I'm pretty sure he's called himself dumb in the past.
He does it all the time, but as a means to excuse himself for uncritically platforming cretins after the fact.
This admission could be calculated, he might just be trying to stay within his audience's palate.
Sure they do...
More useful than comments like yours
I would hope so.
They provide sex for people that want it.
Which is good for mental and emotional health
Not speaking of the sex worker mental health buddy. It's good for societies. See Europe.
So you are okay with an underclass of people suffering because you think it might be good for society?
I'm pretty suffering comes more from social stigma around sex and policies implemented around it creating gray spaces that people use to harm them.
Example: SESTA FOSTA lead to bans on social media centered around sex workers so their jobs became less safe without networks of people who can distribute warnings about violent johns or track down missing persons.
Not sure about their own mental and emotional health though
The same could be said for working in retail.
Somehow I don't think it's quite on the same level
No indeed.
Sex workers are at least allowed to decline customers.
Lets be honest that will change when the stigma is removed.
If it was removed
I mean I do that too
And roughly where are you located?
At my house bro
Whoa! I'm at my house! Are you me???
There’s no way to know for sure.
Don't most people provide a service in return for a payment
Yes, that’s good for society and the economy.
Do people need to do things out of their own kindness for it to be valuable?
I am great at my job. I don’t do it for free or out of the kindness of my heart.
you bring too dumb to use the correct there/their/they're is just perfect. It puts that extra zing to how dumb you make yourself look.
They're not making fun of you for having a different belief, but for having a stupid belief.
I could?!?! Why did no one tell me this before now?!?!?!
What kind of well taken care of prostitutes are you getting? I've only talked to one my entire life and she was offering pussy for $20 as I was yelling at her to get out of my car because I was picking someone up as an Uber.
So I've got this new business idea...
Sex workers laid the foundation for so much of nightlife. They also did a ton for trans rights.
Brothels were also critical foundational businesses in most towns in the developing western US.
Have you ever talked to the old trans sex workers? Some of them enjoyed the work, but plenty were in a position where they could either do sex work or they could not work at all. I knew one lady who uh I don't think had been ok ever since. If you've got the time there's a podcast called Making Gay History, it's the host playing old recordings he made for the book of the same name. You can hear Sylvia Rivera talk about their childhood in their own voice. Our liberation didn't come from sex workers because sex workers are these awesome people, our liberation began with sex workers because that's the only job a lot of people would let a trans person who wasn't stealth or exceptional pre transition do back in the day.
From my experience as a circus and burlesque performer in nightlife, most safety practices were created by sex workers. They also set the styles that then evolved into drag and burlesque. Sex work is also historically a part of the circus. I owe a lot of what I do to them.
You just made me miss my days photographing the BDSM and alt scene. Some of the most genuinely caring people I ever met who were truly concerned for everyone's happiness and safety.
I was always torn between my love for preserving these incredible moments and my desire but unwillingness to participate and it became exhausting. Looking back on it, I'm sad that I decided to step away.
Long story short, I'm eternally grateful to people like you and appreciate your contributions to mental health, safety, community, and the arts.
Name definitely checks out haha
I feel so validated right now! Most users who find out or guess my username meaning get upset that it has nothing to do with cartography.
Feel free to come back. As a leatherwoman we still love good and respectful photographers.
Message me if you're ever in south Texas! I love a good reason to get behind a camera, and will often make a deal if given a challenge that's interesting enough.
In the latter case it's a correlation not causation situation. When a group of people is disproportionately pushed into either hiding or sex work, then yeah the major pushes for liberation for that group are gonna come from sex workers.
Idk sex work is a job, no good in trying to make the people doing it into working class heroes. Just because I think their job should be safe and legal and I can find them fun to hang with doesn't make it anything other than that.
I wasn't the person you were arguing with. Ime most sex workers are doing it either for desperation or as a side gig that meets their capacity. I almost did it once when I was in a bad spot before deciding I wasn't desperate enough to do sales, and I have an ex who sold nudes before it was cool. In fact I'm pretty sure I tried to make it clear I don't think of them as community heroes and was more agreeing with you, just explaining one of the person you were arguing with's points.
You don't seem to like the topic so any example anyone provides will be something you don't like
Might not be, but your comment sounds like sealioning. You insulting those who downvoted you—especially with that term—doesn’t help your credibility in claiming it was just a simple question.
Then be prepared to wear your downvote count as a badge of honor.
Yeah Joe, you and 100 million other idiots.
Actually no, this is deliberate mass ignorance. The GOP has openly advocated hunting minorities for a while now, and used the word criminal like an insult, not a statement of fact.
Some people, probably most, are that ignorant. My wife is a legal, brown immigrant, fighting for her 10-year visa, which should be a rubber stamp by now.
She had no clue. "They're only taking criminals." Hell, the immigration office told her not to worry about what she's seeing on the news. And low-level government workers like that aren't exactly parroting MAGA talking points. They just want to do their fucking job and go home.
And it's true! The odds of ICE snatching her are slim, especially since I haven't seen any around here and there's no ICE office in the region. The odds are slim for everyone, but they're ramping up fast and I've got a solid education in 20th century history. I know what's coming.
Took me some time to make her realize this is a real threat to her. I don't want to scare the shit out of the woman, but I'm nowhere outside the house, especially with her, unarmed.
My man, over half of Americans read at best on a 6th-grade level. How informed do you expect them to be?
One other thing, you're right, most undocumented aliens are in violation of civil law, not criminal. Read up on it a bit, IANAL, but you generally have to be purposefully fucking up for your border crossing to be a criminal offense.
First of all, good on you and your wife. Seriously.
I'm not your man.
But I have difficulty buying the "honestly clueless" argument; after all, this has been going on for 10 years now and it never took a rocket scienctist to see what this man is about. Maybe there's a choice to only watch Faux News? That would be part of what I mean by deliberate ignorance.
Yeah, the USA's immigration legislation is seriously fucked up.
he said that hispanics are genetically criminal
but trump talks so much gibberish it’s impossible to listen to all of it.
conservative media leaves out the most horrible stuff while leftist media focuses on it….
it just shows rogan only consumes news from one side.
I just don't understand how so many people can say with a plain face "I just didn't think he would do again exactly what he did the first time he was president."
I mean, I do believe that Joe Rogan is both ignorant and stupid, so…
Lot's of YouTubers play stupid, so that they get better engagement with their public, like saying some wrong things like it was a mishap gives you comments, being a bit dumbish makes people think they can outsmart you etc etc. it's a monetary strategy. IMO.
A monetary strategy that promulgates mass delusions. Whoopsy.
I call it this as "The Voter's Wager", essentially they believe less bad things will happen than promised, and more good things, because people are too confident in the "politicians just say things sometimes they don't mean".
I was a little shocked that they used Project 2025 so thoroughly, I though they'd just pull a few key things and try them out at first. Instead they do like half of it in 6 months. It's astonishing for people on both sides, it's definitely not what we're used to. Obama had 8 years and tons of political capital and only got a couple signature initiatives done, nothing like Trump's dozens and dozens.
If you don't like Project 2025 then vote DNC. If you don't like money in politics then vote DNC. If you want the rich taxed then vote DNC.
Let me be really really clear: DNC are the "real opposition" you're searching for.
Maybe part of it is that, as a Queer person, I've been keenly aware of the Heritage Foundation (and similar org.s like Focus on the Family) and following their moves since the 2000s.
They've been angling for these types of societal changes for decades and, like those who were intent on overturning Roe and were willing to work for it for a near century – slowly peeling off wins until they got it –, I knew they knew this was their moment and they were going to go for all of it, whatever it took to do it.
I thought we'd nearly buried them and all the homophobic attempts and moves I'd watched them make throughout the previous 2 decades with Obergefell v. Hodges (the Overton window had finally moved in a way that was downright surreal compared to the for-granted and implicit apathy (at best) and disdain of the 2000s and early 2010s) which made the 2024 election particularly existential.
If you were to guess, regarding the Heritage Foundation leaders, what do you think is the main driving forces for their relentless pursuit of the different changes? People can be fanatics and enact changes from the bottom-up, but in the last two decades there's always been a sustained push from the top-down.
For example, on abortion, I feel like HF leaders are looking for control of women (via increasing risk and punishment for unsanctioned sex) ofc, but my impression is that the ends are for racial purity.
I'm sure it's multifaceted and inter-related, but basically to what degree do they believe in what they profess for the agenda? Particularly, how much of it do you think it's for capitalistic greed? Like do they expect standard of living to go down? What about for themselves?
Drumpy's not doing those things, he's incapable, and besides, he's got an interior decorating thing going on with his golden office and golden ballroom..... He does however, allow his dick riders and owners to do those things.
But that’s such a backwards way of looking at it. Can they really be that naive? I think similarly: politicians say things they don’t mean all the time.
However I assume many of them mean the bad things but don’t mean a lot of good things. Politicians can be narcissistic, corrupt, power hungry individuals: of course they’ll promise the moon but deliver what benefits them personally or do the minimum to get themselves reelected. How can you be foolish enough to think the opposite?
Yes. Source: I was like that, and my mother is still like that.
Isn't that with every president that gets re-elected? Man 4 more years and he can finally do the thing he promised. 200 drone stikes later: any minute now we have health care. Okay he was golfing quite a lot, but now that's out of his system and he's too old to fuck children, i can soon afford an egg.
Normalizing what Trump is doing is work of the enemy. Don't be the enemy.
If that were true, and I don't believe it is, then you are a moron.
The last bit is definitely true.
Rogan is a fucking tooool who enabled Trump 1 & 2.
He's just mirroring what his user base is thinking. We might be giving him too much credit with changing people's minds: he just says what his listeners want to hear.
In 2024, it was all about how Trump was going to restore American men to greatness and power against the encroaching evil of criminal immigrants, feminists, and trans drag queens (???)
Now the same American men have realized that's a bad look and he's just providing the excuse for why it was okay to support this stuff.
That's from 2016 btw
This has literally always been his schtick. He also constantly agrees with everything his guest say even when they completely contradict each other.
He's got no actual opinions on anything and never has.
I don't like Rogan much, but i listened to him pretty regularly long before he moved to Spotify, when he was slightly less of a grifting bullshiter...
He absolutely does not just agree with his guests. He regularly used to tear into them over bullshit they spouted. Now is he still as principled after all this time? I wouldn't be surprised to find out no he isn't. But he USED to challenge guests pretty often at least.
These days that's reserved for when they say climate change is real.
I'll believe you if you can provide and example of him challenging something a guest on his show says.
It took me literally 3 seconds to find this https://youtu.be/S4ydSSwu1Ws
Same with that Diary of a CEO guy, dude never goes deep in his interviews, never questions an outrageous or unsubstantiated claim of his guests. And this guy has become really popular as well. It’s like people even as a 3rd party listener don’t like to hear criticism or even just critical thinking from an interviewer.
Joe, you have a large platform, and Fuck You money, and can say or do anything that you choose. You could turn your entire listening base back to the light if you felt like it.
Nice of you to finally acknowledge reality, but you've got a lot more heavy lifting to do. You're not the enemy of my enemy just yet.
Not quite.
Unidentified masked armed thugs snatching people off the street without due process and shipping them off to gulag (sometimes in a completely unrelated country) is wrong even if the people are criminals.
Criminals also have rights worth protecting.
And one of your rights as a non criminal is a fair and speedy trial if someone mistakes you for one
Fair and speedy trial is a right we all enjoy, regardless of our criminal record.
TBH I'd prefer he just FOAD
I'm happy with whatever helps topple the regime the fastest.
agreed. rest in piss.
spotify gave him a very large platform,
stupid fucking housefly.
"But, but, you see, once authoritarianism starts creeping in, and it makes some inroads, which it's definitely making right now man."
The irony of Duncan Trussel saying this while wearing a Palantir hat feels like a top tier psyop. I'm not even conspiratorial but there is no conceivable world where you could be that dense.
Peter Thiel believing to prevent the Antichrist with Palantir could be more dense.
https://feddit.org/post/20047555
Bro really is that dumb, huh?
I dO mY Own rESeaRcH.
I mean, he’s perfect for interviews with people whose brains are practically concussed mush. And I think he’s allowed to be an MMA commentator on the side out of pity.
Joe Rogan and Philomena Cunk are both very entertaining. Just that Cunk generally has the good sense to stay away from politics.
She's also a character and it's a bit. He's serious.
Yeah Cunk is clearly played/written by a very intelligent woman. Her stupidity is consistently quite clever especially with her ability to get experts baffled at how to begin correcting her.
Rogan isn't a bit. His decisions are that of an idiot thinking he's playing the jester, but merely coming off as a fool.
I don't know how much improvisation she puts into it but AFAIK she is written by a team of three men and the series in which she stars were created by Charlie Brooker.
Gesturing at a renaissance painting and asking a museum curator "What the fuck is this?" is the funniest thing I"ve seen in the last few years.
I would LOVE a Philomena Cunk interview podcast. Though I imagine it might get old after a while
The problem becomes when the interviewees know it is a bit (this is why Sasha Baron Cohen eventually got stale, or Tom Green before him)
Apparently with her she's up front about it being a bit, unlike Ali G
I'm moderately sad now, but they still seem to be caught by surprise sometimes
Makes it even more impressive imo
she would be an actual comedian, and rogan kinda is a washout. alot of conservatives are very bitter once they become washout comedians.
his brain is drowning in PEDS as well.
Why is anyone still listening to this moron?
-- George Carlin
other morons. MMA fans, gymbros, brogans,,,etc. these people also imbibe in Shapiro, owens, J peterson and the likes.
There's far too many of them in the world.
Cue the very next episode where Joe will be spending 300x as much time berating the left because he saw a leftist do something stupid in an AI video with PS2 graphics.
Doesn't even take AI to fool that guy. He is so dumb he can't read a graph, so you can put facts in front of him and he will still think it supports his position.
Kinda sounds like trump, ever convinced of the opinions of the last person he talked to, or last video he saw..
Joe meant to say hes a dipshit who got conned twice by the same conman lol
Ignorance of the law isn't a defense, ignorance of obvious reality shouldn't be either. He's complicit and he knows it.
Do you think they can tell the difference when they only understand moral panics?
Liar
I think it's a good mix of both
theo von is like the temu roegan.
They thought that meal team six would have balls to go after someone who might fight back?
Didnt you see they arrested that guy who was a multi traffic ticket violated with his last speeding ticket in 2013! Hasn't had a speeding ticket in 12 years, he's gotta be up to something
The thing they were doing under Biden?
When a republican says "criminals" they mean "brown people who aren't filthy rich". Which, just to be clear, does not include drug cartels or any other people typically included by the word "criminal".
Fuck Joe Rogan's dumb ass and his willingness to take every republican propaganda statement at face value.
What a useful idiot.
Thats what you get for being a stupid POS joe.
He really needs de-platformed like Alex Jones. Same human sewage machine.
I don't think you can deplatform people who are being injected with cash by the richest people in the world. Best folks can do is expose where their money's coming from.
These podcasts need more empty chairs.
shame on spotify for platforming him with a more new audience, aside from youtube.
In March was when we started seeing news of tourists, grandmas, ice cream men, and small business owners getting thrown into ICE Internment camps. In May, we started seeing kids being rounded up.
And only now is he going, "Hey this is weird?" I can't believe I used to listen to this dude.
They're back peddling because of what happened in Utah last month. Notice how all these mouthpieces have turned it down a notch or two after MAGA's war of vengeance failed to materialize.
trying to label "the boogemyman trans shooter" and it turns out kirk was pissed because AIPAC/jewish backer of his stopped giving him money because he wont stop railing on israel/with tucker carlson (whom is putins moutpiece, and putin is heavily aligned with IRAN). (CONSPIRACY) they had kirk killed.
How did so many people get fooled by him when he'd already been president and was just like this for four years‽
For a serious answer WRT the people who genuinely didn’t think this administration would act the way it is - in his first term, he was mostly surrounded by people who were competent and who respected the law & checks & balances. When they got told “kidnap people off the streets” they said “I can’t do that, that would be illegal”.
So the fact that these things weren’t done in the first term made people think they wouldn’t be done in the second term.
Couple that with the fact that the vast majority of people are incredibly uninformed about politics.
hes playing his fans, he knows he fucked up but is trying to save face by virtue signalling or bandwangoning.
5th gen warfare
Poor, poor, Joe Rogan. Reality has eluded him.
For anyone not following things like elephant graveyard on YouTube, this shit is a face saving attempt for them.
Both him and Duncan Trussel are getting hammered by parts of their audiences for not only full throated support of Trump, but actually using their platforms to boost the shit. Same with Theo Von and a few of these other fucking clowns.
Duncan Trussel is famously the person in a space suit telling Rogan people are going to manipulate and use him. This shit is clownshoes.
They're just the first rats trying to abandon the ship.
Legit, you know it's bad when you've lost infamously gullible idiot Joe Rogan.
hes a rat that got stuck in a glue trap trying flee.
Theo vons last few weeks ,hes look so pathetic trying to act like right wing machismo man. im surprised he wasnt invited to ridayah comedy festival. before the pandemic, i first found theo von on asian poc yt channel of failed "comedians' now turned maga, he was definitely more humble then. although i felt he also is a trashy person.
Not that we didn’t know this already, but anybody that says this kind of shit immediately loses all credibility. It was 100% obviously bullshit when they said it. Just like getting Mexico to pay for the wall. Or Trump having a healthcare plan. It was all 100% bullshit.
It's Joe Rogan, he lost credibility about 15 years ago.
He really did. He's such a fucking idiot. And a maliciously irresponsible one.
I'm not sure why he would ever be considered credible in this area to begin with
he shouldve just stuck to MMA podcasts. alot of streamers have starting leaning politiclaly to capture more views as of recently.
Stopping the Ukraine war on the first day.
Putin wouldnt allow JRE to say it though.
YOU HELPED ENABLE THIS, YOU DUMB FUCK.
Fell For It Again award
I hope Joe is held accountable in the trials to come as well.
The really fucking stupid thing about his reasoning quoted there is that there’s already a fuckton of legislation like RICO to take down gangs. You don’t need ICE for that, just get the police to their job.
It must be hard to be stupid. Things happening all around you all the time that you don't understand.
Raised in a strictly authoritarian environment where critical thinking is shunned.
The world must seem so confusing to these people.
Trump's campaign promise was 10 million deportations or something like that. Did Rogan think there was 10 million criminals just out of control last year?
hes not even targeting the actual "illegals" not the ones working in meat plants, etc where "animal, eco activists" cant access.
If any MAGA listening to this asshat are getting the message, this is good news.
My idiot neighbors are cheering on ICE for "rounding up the criminals".
No, Joe, you didn't. You are doped pit, but your brain isn't that destroyed. You knew, just as we all did.
Rule: If you vote for a politician, the bad things they say could happen regardless of how much you don't like the bad things.
Joe Rogan and "thought". Who else thinks those do not go well together?
Thought is not something he has done on a regular basis
You thought that, because you're stupid, Joe.
Because you're stupid.
No he didn't. He just says this kind of stuff to seem impartial but continues to push the same right wing agenda to his cult followers.
hes trying to look "neutral" so he doesnt get flak from his fans, or ditch him for someone else.
He a fucking dumb ass nazi simp
The outfits. All the conversations he has had. This man is faking surprise.
i’m having doubts Joe Rogan can even read and even if he knows, I’m having doubts he understands whatever he’s reading.
he gets his script and marching orders from vladimir.
I'll never understand the masses of idiots, how they could be such fans of a guy like this. Go ahead and do a bunch of drugs and think you are figuring out the world, but maybe instead of broadcasting a bunch of half baked conspiracy theories, just keep it to yourself.
MMA is a gateway drug, MMA fans loved before he turned to trump/putin.
He should start talking at colleges
Democracy is the best we've got and it still fuckin' sucks thanks to legions of idiots just like Joe Rogan.
I THOUGHT they were Only going to Go After the CRIMINALS (but I'm OK with them going After Children and Pastors and Business Owners and Laborers TOO!)!
Joe Rogan is so god damned stupid I’m surprised he can drink from the right end of a glass.
They all assumed immigrants were 98% dangerous street criminals, 2% hardworking field and hotel workers, which is the observable part for them. They never considered it's the observable part because they're the backbone of several industries.
The unfortunate part is this might be the only time Trump supporters hear they aren't. Wonder if that means they abandon Rogan.
All a facade to take power and go full Nazi
No he didn't. He didn't give it a moment's thought, and he didn't care. He still doesn't. If sucking up to Trump next week gets him ratings, he'll suck up to Trump again.
So I guess Joe Rogan really is as stupid as I thought he was. And here I was thinking he was just being a vindictive prick.
Dummy meathead certainly looks the part.
If only someone warned us about uncle Joe ahead of time, like around 2020 when his platform grew exponentially due to COVID misinformation.
why, you could fill a liberry with the things he didn't think about
his roids addled brain.
Oh Joey-jo-Joe... that was never what it was about.
Fuck yourself Joe Rogaine
They are: to them, anyone brown is a criminal. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Every governments around the world have been going after illegal immigrants and offenders for the longest time. What the heck are they thinking supporting fascists? Oh wait, they are low information voters. Sorry, but that includes my mom, my cousin and a friend. I just can't help but roll my eyes when people say tHeY aRe oNlY gOiNg AfTeR IlLeGaLs! It's not necessarily the low information voter's fault though, social media brainwashed them to focus only on a droplet of reality while not seeing the entire ocean.
And I am not letting liberals and progressives off the hook either. Tbh, the left needs to catch up with the game of social media. It is with the benefit of hindsight and is hard to swallow to admit that the new frontline to win hearts and minds of the population is the social media. The Democratic administrations deported more people than Trump and somehow Americans do not know this and/or think Democrats are allowing illegal migration. The Biden administration failed to take full credit of improving economy. He thought that results will speak for itself. But no, he was wrong. He had to show it off! The right won the information war because they know how to address the people, aside from outsized funding that the right tend to throw at.
I think the left has allergy to social media and thinks it's vapid (which it is), but that's where the PR war is being engaged across the world right now. You have to be a show off because people in the age of digital world are superficial and empty-headed. The left has to be comfortable parading their ideas as 'Instagrammable'. It worked for the Brazilian president Lula, it worked for the Mexican left and it worked for Mamdani. Love or hate Obama, he was a savvy operator of social media and able to present his ideas (and cover up his flaws). He was called the first social media president after all. The old media are dying and old farts have to accept the new world, or else go by the way of dodos.
Dumber than a bag of hammers. And less useful.
Joe Rogan is a literal Tool.
Should we start going after SlopTubers next ?
He has the platform to change public opinion. If he only acknowledges the deportations then he is signalling to his audience that that's the limit to which it should concern them.
In that sense this is support for the politics, not opposition.
That asshole. Still a punchable face.
I’m sorry to be the one to tell you and I’m sorry you had to find out this way, but you’re an idiot, Joe.
Then you really are a fucking idiot.
In b4 locked!
Sorry I'm OOTL, why are they both dressed up like Catholic priests?
is rogan trying to be a stand-up comedian now? got a laugh from this
Thats the fucked up part, in their heads, they are!