Ben Shapiro event at Reagan library in Simi Valley is canceled in aftermath of Charlie Kirk shooting
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Oh now they're afraid of guns?
MFW we find out that the shooter is a Republican that's mad about Charlie's about face on Epstein.
MFW we find out that the shooter is a Republican that's mad about Charlie's about
faceon Epstein.whoever downvoted your comments a lil bitch, thats gold
What a sad ratio of votes. Why spend your life hanging out on a website you dislike?
not the best approach. If I wanted to discuss in a self-affirming bubble, I'd still have a Reddit account.
His face, in general, was very maddening tbh.
Very punchable, but that's true of Nazis in general.
It's so strange. I've seen people who I had no idea who they were or what they prurported to believe and thought "that face looks a bit obnoxious" and lo and behold they are asshats as soon as they say anything...
him being a pro-zionist nazi is something else. He wouldnt even try to defend jewish people when MTG was railing on jewish people last year.
I’m open to being wrong, but my money’s on Groypers or some other extremely online right wing group.
It shows signs of being a well-executed hit. So it's probably not online fasc-bois.
I'm so confused. Shouldn't he feel safe with security and being a "good guy" with a gun to protect himself?
I don't really get it. Are they scared that there is another good guy with a gun?
Ooh here's another one who's right to be scared, and whose death I would struggle to shed a tear over.
We're not supposed to celebrate death or violence.
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Hey man, nice shot!
Such a banger song.
I will always celebrate the death of terrorists that target civilians. Stochastic terrorism is still terrorism.
It depends on what instance you're on. We don't have ads and corporate masters here. As long as you don't encourage someone to go do something like that I think you'll be fine. Depends on the instance admins tho.
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You don't tell me what I'm supposed to do!
Yeah seriously. I’m not that attached to this account. I’ll celebrate whatever I want. I simply don’t want to celebrate violence but not because of some fucking hand wringing rule.
I'm not celebrating anything. I don't wish anybody to die, but I certainly won't get dressed to go to everybody's funeral.
cough. Yeah, go check out m/music on Lemmy.
Ohhh the wu tang post. Chef’s kiss.
Far too subtle for lemmykins.
I think we could use some more opening statements though.
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Why are we not supposed to celebrate death?
Because it can be used as an excuse for governments, corporations, or deranged people to target the instances that host us, and the people who run those instances.
For celebrating violence, maybe.
Not for celebrating death.
yeah but i'm done being dishonest
I’d die a giddy little girl if I never had to hear his annoying nasally voice again. Sooooo not masculine.
His voice and mannerisms are annoying, but it's what he says that really is the problem. Maybe he thinks Aquaman is now after him.
Agreed. Don't care if you're tall or short, ugly or pretty, nice voice or bad voice. All I care is whether you're a decent person or not.
His whiny voice makes what he says worse, at least to me. I’m not going to listen to some snot nosed bridge troll tell me what’s up.
Here, you can use this to adjust his voice to the nasalliness of your pleasure:
https://blovish.github.io/kirkslider/
Hahaha I love the internet
He sounds like a gnat on speed.
What I find so weird is that apparently he's the Confederates' idea of what a very S-M-R-T person sounds like. Just because he talks fast?
The "debate me" energy that so many mansplainers have....it just has micro d energy written over it.
I still remember his Home Depot trip.
https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=wm1CQyuRvTc
"I'm all for violence and hate, just not towards me. I want to spread hate and fear, as I'm a soldier for my beliefs. But not when there's a slightest chance of risk for my own safety involved. I only want to harm others while being safe myself."
It seems that they have definitely started to show themselves so much more that TACO is in office now.
I suppose people are starting to notice.
"But I thought only Republicans had guns. I only want to target defenseless minorities. I'm not willing to die for this cause!"
I would laugh so hard if the person responsible turned out to be a republican... again.
It would be extra great if the shooter was a pardoned Jan. 6 insurrectionist.
It would be nice extra great if he never got caught, and all MAGAs would all have to worry that there's a sniper out there waiting to kill them at any moment.
How come cops are so incompetent nowadays? I thought they were only hiring the best, and now they can barely catch, what, four shooters now?
They stood around for Uvalde, took them a short time to catch the Highland Park guy, Luigi went on the run for days…
It’s fun when they can’t even hide their incompetence.
I remember back when Columbine happened, and while the shooters were thought to be there in the school actively killing students, the cops were moving around aimlessly, chatting and laughing in little groups, like it was a weekend cop picnic. I was outraged by the lack of concern or urgency.
Decades later, it was the same thing at Uvalde, except we had video of them inside the school, and saw how absolutely cowardly they were.
It was the same at Parkland, where the school security officer cowered outside, and then talked other cops out of entering, as they stood outside with their guns, and listened to the killer murder innocent, unarmed students, one after another.
All those years, and nothing had changed. Cops are just as cowardly and useless today as they've always been.
Because anyone who was competant in the FBI was fired as woke.
My head would explode.
Statistically... Most radicalized loonies are Republicans or have similar beliefs.
Edit: I mean, no sane person would actually grab a gun and kill a public figure. (not that I'm complaining now, or with Luigi)
They would just say that that he donated a dollar at the grocery store check out line to help a children's hospital when he was 12, so he's a liberal.
You can definitely read this in Shapiro’s voice.
He should just hire good guys with guns.
Yeah, like the one who short Kirk.
I don't think they'd accept his offer.
The trigger fingers of the John Brown gun club members would probably be really itchy around Benny boy.
I've thought about this a lot since Luigi. The power of these alt reality movements is derived from their mouthpieces. Without their army of apologists, every ridiculous lie sounds as stupid as it is and always was.
Being a professional shill/propagandist for these people should be one of the most dangerous jobs in the world, and I'm surprised that's not the case. So, smart move on Ben. He should hang up the towel, and find a real job.
Being a shoe salesman would be a great choice for Ben since he wouldn't have to bend over to help people in and out of shoes.
Ben Shapiro killed Charlie Kirk. After all, Ben Shapiro was the rising star replacement for Rush Limbaugh until Charlie Kirk came along and passed him up, and became the big MAGA Media darling.
Now Shapiro is back on top. He stands to benefit the most by Kirk's death. Obviously, Shapiro did it.
Nah, he was Seal Team Sixed by Trump for not being a blind devoted follower. See Kirk’s flip flop on Epstein files. Yes, he publicly acquiesced but that showed too much independent thought that, with his following, organization, and youth, was a threat that required fatal consequences.
"Goddammit! I told you to just nick his ear, like you did with me!"
Was the ear ever actually damaged? No medical reports, thomas crooks could've been given a blank believing it to be real and S.S. killing that maga firefighter to add to the authenticity.
(But hey, that's just a theory.)
A theory that I buy 100%. There is video of him 2 weeks later with no bandage, and there isn't the slightest thing wrong with his ear. It should have taken a chunk off his ear, and there wasn't even a scab.
The whole thing was a pre-convention hoax, meant to drum up support. Remember how all of them were wearing bandages on their ears to show solidarity?
Dipshit traitors.
And another attempt at deflection from the pedo files, 2 birds with one bullet through the neck.
I don't know about you, but I don't know where Ben Shapiro was at Noon yesterday.
Seems obvious to me, but MAGA Nazis aren't quick on the uptake. Their primary characteristic, after treason, racism, ignorance, and pedophilia, is virtuosic incompetence. Frankly, it's what will finally save America. Their breathtaking stupidity is unsustainable, and will eventually lead to their failure and collapse.
[ grabs popcorn ]
Hey maybe there's a guy with a hit list going around killing people. Or was that the Minnesota shooter that was out to kill a bunch of democrats?
It proves that guns will make them shut up.
Come on, exercise your free speech.
Guns will also make libs shut up. This isn't a good thing
They've been doing that for a while tho. If you're a minority, even longer - possibly since the country was founded.
That's not the point I'm making. I'm saying that if it had happened to be a prominent liberal commentator at the other end of that bullet, other liberal commentators would cancel shows in fear of their safety. It's not a good situation for anybody
I get the viewpoint, but it did hit a bit differently when people that actively promote offensively hateful viewpoints and widespread gun availability incur the exact sort of expected outcome you'd expect from going down that path.
If you callously say murders are worth it to have guns everywhere, then this can be expected.
If he goes out of his way to stir up a hornets nest to try to hurt others in the area, then I'm not going to be too surprised that he gets stung.
Even as this should be a sign to tone down the rhetoric, a lot of them are doubling down with confrontational perspectives (well out of reach of the public mind you).
libs shut up voluntarily.
Then start ordering their left to shut up.
America's unwillingness to give up guns has desensitized us to violence. Tit-for-tat political violence was the obvious outcome of that. Now even if the country implemented sensible gun policies, I think it's too late. The violence will continue because we're desensitized to it
I don't have a solution. We'll likely live with gun violence as a daily occurrence for the rest of our lives. It'll be a slow and painful recovery if there is one
What do you mean you "will" live with gun violence as a daily occurrence? It already is.
No no, Ben, god chose you, he'll just gently blow any bullets out of the way, right? Because god exists? And prayer works? He created the universe and shit?
I want to punch this weasel-faced rat just on principle, but especially because of his overt religiosity, and therefore dangerous insanity.
Why isn't religion a mental illness?
Most of these generic American Christians are taught it was gods will. That is.... ANYTHING is gods will. I used to find that so interesting as I was raised in all that abuse. No matter WHAT happens, it's always god that intended it or wanted it. There was some "purpose" or reason.
How convenient.
My parents also loved to lean into how they only had to answer to god. Also convenient.
No mom and dad, you answer to me. Your children are the only ones qualified to determine whether you were a good parent.
"God never gives anyone more than they can handle."
... "Because that's when he takes you."
I hate his dumb face, and his stupid nasally voice. I hate when he wears a little yarmulke and he has a slight look of smug satisfaction like "that's right I'm Jewish, you can't say shit"
Because the inmates are running the asylum.
What we need is some sort of new world order.
There are some countries that ban religion. You can tell which ones they are because they're the ones that shine with the best of humanity.
I can only think of USSR and DPRK. maybe Maoist China, but China (at least now) allows religion (though it prohibits Tibetan Buddhism and iirc Islam.)
I definitely wouldn't consider DPRK to "shine with the best of humanity." good luck to you if you decide to move there; don't pull an Otto Warmbier!
You can't ban religion, it seems to be a "feature" of the human species. We can keep it well contained though.
Yah which on or is this just some more internet bullshit.
Can you name some? That would be a quality I would like to prioritize when picking a place to move to.
USSR is the only one I heard of doing that.
Those countries are heavily orthodox now. So I guess that didn’t work
Coward
I'm European and it is the fist time I realize these are 2 different persons. I always mixed them up to now.
It should be a lot easier going forward
One has a river of blood on his neck. The other keeps his in Palestine
That bigass head certainly had a proportionate amount of blood in it.
They are appendages, therefore you weren't wrong in your original assumption
Significant difference, especially for us Europeans: Shapiro has consistently supported Ukraine whereas Kirk did not.
At the same time shapiro is a bigger propagandist for israel both guys are terrible.
SHapiro also a pro-zionist nazi supporter. since kirk is primarly bankrolled by Putin, it would be in his best interest to rail on ukraine anyways.
It's easy to do because neither of them matter.
It's fistin' time!
Good. Now they're learning the part of the book where Frankenstein fears what he created.
More like Frankenstinky
Come on Ben, go stand up on a stage somewhere in public, go speak your mind since you love doing that. Don't be a fucking coward, go put yourself out there and keep spewing your hateful drivel.
I have yet to meet a Conservative who isn't a scared coward.
It’s literally their whole thing. I’ve even tried to explain it to them but they just say “I ain’t scared.” Oh so that’s why you cling desperately to your guns and your stereotypes? Total lack of fear.
They talk tough about war and violence, but they expect others to do it. Gun ownership is just about fear.
Shapiro should keep going out and talking, he just needs to bring his wife with him. That way, if something happens, she can just soak up all the blood with her desiccated vagina.
Healthy sandpaper texture. Just like the doctor ordered. 👌
One major difference between the Kirk shooting and that of the Minnesota legislators is that when Hortman was murdered, the rest of the Democrats still showed up to work.
Why? Because what Shapiro et al do isn't something they truly believe in, it's all a grift to make money. As soon as selling hate becomes too dangerous, they'll just pivot to selling crypto or some shit.
Snowflake
Guns really do keep bad people away! 😮
I've been saying they should feel fear. Look what makes them fearful.
Everything. These types fear everything.
They talk about law and order because of fear. They often own guns purely because of fear. And they react with vitriol to events like Charlie Kirks death out of fear.
They are afraid of everything. That's their entire identity. This, mixed with a complete lack of empathy and integrity, is why we are all so fucked these days. These people gain power through spreading their insecurities, and they are destroying everything.
Yes, but when they retreat in fear, it means we have the power to stop them, if we are willing to exercise it.
The funny thing is that they're both such generic rightwing grifters that I can't keep those two separate in my head. When I first heard about Kirk getting capped my first thought was "Was this a anti-semetic attack?" quickly followed by "Wait, am I thinking of the right guy?" (spoiler alert, I wasn't)
Yeah, I always got Charlie mixed up with that other guy with lots of incel energy, even though Charlie has a wife - and that was Nick Fuentes.
When Charlie got shot, I was like, "is this the guy that says dating women is gay (lol), or is this the guy that was interviewed by the old maid on Faux who was never married and told her that women need to get married and pop out babies before they think of their career?"
I thought I was the only one with this problem. I always kept confusing Kirk and Shapiro in my head
Imagine being overshadowed by your sister’s breasts, literally.
She does have some rocking tits tho.
Holy crap you weren't kidding. She's generally gorgeous, too.
Yeah, one of life's great tragedies.
I'm pretty sure she's a nutjob scumbag just like her idiot brother.
This. I thought the Shapiro name wasn't defamed enough, then there were two.
She provides shade for her young.
Aww, they could've capped two bigots in one day. Shame.
lol what a pussy
Aww.
The fascist group hug rally got cancelled because of gun violence??
US high school students “Pathetic. We get a school shooting in the morning and we’re all back to class in the afternoon.”
Lol pussy
It’s ok when we get shot, but oh no when it’s one of them…
Pussy
But at least he's dry
Did he gish gallop into the sunset?
Shame, i know there were a lot of people looking forward to his event being cut short too!
Hahaha coward chickenshit. All they need is a good guy with a gun, right? 😂
Pussy
Awww, why?
Weak bitch
Why did't he just get a gun to defend himself? What a bitch, bet that is why his wife doesn't get wet.
I hope this is the result, these radical righties fade into the shadows afraid for their lives.
Edited to say; Same people expect our kids to show up in school after mass shootings. HYPOCRITES.
Every cloud has a silver lining. Except in this case the cloud is also silver.
I'm pretty sure trump doesn't need another minor maga death so soon after kirk. After all whatever trump does in response will have to be done again later. So they are probably saving Shapiro for later.
Waiting for the next time they are forced to vote on the trump Epstein files
Oh? Does Ben Shepeepee espouse similarly heinous views and is now scared his rhetoric will come back to bite him as it did his fellow "Great American Patriot?"
Coward
I’ll bet that opened his eyes a bit. I’m sure a few others are a wee more paranoid now as well.
Go back and watch that video of Taco standing outside talking about how safe DC is, as he's surrounded by others and Secret Service everywhere.
Hegseth was standing nearby. Look at his face, look at how his eyes dart all over the place, like he expects there is a book depository nearby...and that was BEFORE this shooting.
I think they were all already paranoid as hell because they must know how unpopular all of them really are.
Hegseth was scanning around in paranoia thinking that sobriety might sneak up on him.
Imagine getting a job you're totally unqualified to work in. Now add Trump as your boss. You'd drink yourself to death, too. Let his liver become as dark as his bigoted heart as well .
Come on Ben! I just want to have a debate on gun control!
Pussy
Shapiro still goes outside. He could still get kirked.
Verbalizing this incident is just 👨🍳🤌🫴
It's probably time for you to close up shop Ben. Stop doing your talks, stop promoting hate and lies and start actually being a good husband and learn how to be a better person.
Or get your head blown off. Both things are fine.
I do not want to normalize murder as a trump card in political discourse - not any further than the right has already mind you.
But I am enjoying seeing these hate mongers feel some of that turned back their way, in a very public manner. Having the outside world ‘cancelled’ for themselves for fear of assassins and high powered rifles. Always having to travel with security, constantly worried if their next organic street encounter will be with a genuine fan, or ‘a fan’ with a vendetta.
Tolerance paradox aside, I still condemn this though - because political assassination does not bode well in the immediate term, nor the long term if this kind of activity keeps repeating… it ultimately only leaves the most hardline and ideological voices on the soapbox.
This shooting has to shake some conservative commenters to the core.
I can’t wait for the tragic Kirk biopic with Kevin sorbo and Zachary levi
Yeah, he's so alpha
And here I was thinking that all you needed to stop a bad guy with a gun was a good guy with a gun.
Guess Benny just doesn't know any good people.
You think anyone out there actually cares about that failure of an author to defend him with their lives? (He's also only a failure in the sense he gave up writing, btw. Rarely do the first books get published. I think he just thought it would get him rich quick, not an actual devotee to the craft.)
Let's say , for a moment, that I'm full of shit, and I fear for my life in a shooting event.
Imagine being a pedophile rapist with a huge head in the country with the most guns in private hands...
Is he gonna appear on stage with his kid?
Picturing right wingers armoring up in Baby Bjorns now...
In all seriousness, the ones who should be scared the most are the people on the left from a retaliatory attack. Someone's gonna die. :/
They were going to go after us anyway.
Coward
Every ray of sunshine has a silver lining, I suppose.
awwww booo! he should go :)
What a PUSSY
HAH! Pussy.
coward lol
I think he should be alright...
Damn, he won't be getting that unibrow fixed i guess.
It was the smile that creeped me out. Like his lips were stretched out from his gums or something.
Anything happens to any of these guys and my first thought goes to Hitchens' comment about enemas and matchbox burials.
He stole that line from LBJ.
See? It's not all bad
Why? Did something happen?
Charlie "Small face" Kirk died
Got his neck blow out like your mom's back.
leave my momma out dis
hopefully we wont see as much anti-woke Kirk videos flooding yt as much.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
as if that little worm was important enough to shoot. pfft