"Very dramatic shift" - Linus Tech Tips opens up about the channel's declining viewership
A lot of Youtube channels are reporting declining viewership lately.
EX1: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cpVnx4_yqTo
EX2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF0tmhEtVJE
Fun times. Looks like a lot of channels are seeing a decline not just Linus. Hes just the latest to talk about it.
Then I saw this article as well and thought I would share.
Anyone here youtube creators? Are you seeing the same thing, a general downturn in viewership?
https://www.sportskeeda.com/us/streamers/news-very-dramatic-shift-linus-tech-tips-opens-channel-s-declining-viewershipOpen linkView original on piefed.social452
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Folks here are missing the point blaming LTT for the drop. This has been a sudden drop, too sudden to be fatigue or audience tastes changing.
Also I can see the same on my own channel. About 2 weeks ago views suddenly dropped to a third of the usual views. And even high performing videos have had trouble getting views since. Even videos with a high impression percentage are getting lower than average views.
The same wsd also reported by Second Wind (old Zero Punctuation) and their experience is the same: way too sudden drop to be anything else except YouTube adjusting their algorithm.
Thanks for the analysis. I've got to say. We on Lemmy can be vicious.
Yeah, it's easy to bark at influencer we don't like.
I think his org has consistently done its best and I still tune in across the channels. I know that I couldn't do better with matched resources, without experience and a lot more considerations.
Listening to everyone hate on a whole media group puzzles me a bit.
LTT has done bad things and never apologized. For example he copied a gamersnexus script and never acknowledged it.
Never acknowledged it? He immediately put a pinned comment attributing Gamers Nexus when notified of it, and GN thanked him for it, which any reasonable person would take as him being happy with the resolution.
It was a piece of info from GN's video, not a copied script though.
https://gamersnexus.net/gn-extras/our-response-linus-sebastian
Yeah, that's what I'm basing what I said on. You can see GN thanking Linus for quick action, and being understanding that an inexperienced writer could make such a mistake.
And stole an item to auction off! I can’t believe people here defend their ass D:
Which turned out to be false, and Billet Labs confirmed it was always the agreement that they were not supposed to return it, they just changed their mind later when it was already too late.
The email chain was published by Billet Labs after LTT said there were no expectations of returning the prototype. It proved that Linus lied about it.
In their video, Yahtzee said it could be related to Restricted Mode on youtube suddenly turns on by itself. Or at least that's their hypothesis, since they checked that if that mode is on, a lot of their videos vanished from their channel.
They're wrong, my channel has under 4% viewers in the up to 18 year segment, this effect is way bigger than if I lost then completely. Also my channel features no swearing or inappropriate content so, it should not affect it at all if this was the case.
It's not about what your viewers are, it's about what youtube now automatically hides by default. They show it in the video.
Yes, but even if they hid everything I have from teens and suspended teens, the drop would be way less. And that's why I think they are wrong about the reason for the drop.
Tierzoos theory is because formats that were good for the past years (8-10 min videos) are less popular now with the advent of shorts. And people are watching yt on their TVs now.
Demographics are also changing. Wish there were more actual data. Other than the very end result which is views down over many channels all at once.
That also wouldn't have a drastic immediate effect. On the long term this is likely to eat some views of long form content.
I‘ve noticed the algorithm drizzles a good portion of smaller creators on my front page in recent months and that part is growing. I am talking about videos with just a few thousand or few hundred views that make up roughly 10-15 percent of my recommendations or so.
I think Youtube is diversifying exposure so you don‘t see the same faces you‘ve seen the past 15 years as often and new channels get a chance to grow. I am guessing Youtube doesn‘t want to be too dependent on the same huge channels anymore either.
Of course that means huge creators are calling to the pitch forks and torches because they lose revenue but why should I care? Most of them are rich anyway and don‘t necessarily produce better videos than someone with their phone in their garage workshop or a bunch of college students in their dorms. If anything it feels more like the old Youtube again.
There is a lot wrong with Youtube but I couldn‘t care less about huge channels being forced to slim down or try harder.
Noticed those as well.
Usually the side bar recommends the usual bunch or related content but then there is this totally random video of some small channel with 10 maybe <1000 views doing a let's play or some random content which is completely unrelated to the content I watching at the moment.
In the case of LTT: Not everyone can absorb the cash flow for an ULTIMATE PETABYTE MULTI-NODE STORAGE SERVER BUILD.
I honestly enjoy those as uneducated as some videos are, those infrastructure videos are really enjoyable for the amount of jank.
I'm noticing a lot more ai generated videos myself. Or at least they look like it. Its kinda slop.
I've been getting recommendations for videos with 2 to 10 views. Noticed it about three months ago.
Same. I kinda like it.
mr beast has always been shady asf, thats why hes desperate as in the type of content he puts out, eventhough he has huge a base and his shitty food company. Like he wants to make a big deal out "paying the " wrestler that got knocked out by an aggressive MMA person. hes like a vulture.
AI slop most likely. Well, to be serious, I think the drop is due to them trying to fight AI slop and miserably failing.
yes, ive seen an increase in AI slop + propaganda too, and yt also is allow ISRAEL to make pro-IDF propaganda to flood the site now. 45million$ contract from NETANYAHU.
AI slop trailers, AI bizarre animal injures, GOOGLE veo AI videos.
Nazi salutes and brotein supplements
I hope anything but LTT, a shit clickbait channel that steals things to auction off
If a change in the algorithm hurts, it may be a sign that the algorithm had been helping previously. No one questions the algorithm when viewership grows, but it’s largely to blame for the good and the bad.
True, but a platform where your income is dependent on an ever changing algorithm is not something a business can handle. Changes like that will drive away major channels and make them start to look for alternatives.
I mean you just described every website in the world, and their relationship with Google search engine traffic. Demonstrably, a business can deal with this. An algorithm can inject uncertainty into a business, but if one is entirely and exclusively dependent on one algorithm, is it really a business?
Very true. And it's very worrying that so much of global online business is literally dependent of Googles good will.
DarkviperAU also mentioned it.
I'll echo that I have felt an algorithm change. I watch a lot of leather crafting videos and a lot of Adam Savage videos. In the past week I've been getting Adam Savage working on leather videos and I've been thrilled to discover these. As someone who's been watching both Adam Savage and leather crafting videos for months or maybe years, I should have already seen these, but somehow missed these until this past week. Now YouTube shows me video after video of Adam Savage working on leather, which I love.
youtube is probably gearing the algorithim for other content than influencers that draws in more views or revenue.
Not impossible. The best revenue for Google would be if they could ai generate all the content themselves.
What would make me really happy is if viewership across YouTube entirely was down because people were getting fed up with YouTube and shifting to alternatives.
The problem is that there aren't any really viable alternatives. YouTube has three major advantages and all three are necessary. First and most critically it has a viable business model (that is it has a way to earn money to pay creators). It's a shitty business model, but it is viable which already puts it ahead of most services that are coasting on VC funds and hoping they'll trip over a business model before they go bankrupt. Second it has the infrastructure and capital to actually serve content. Running a video streaming service is the single largest bandwidth consumer you could possibly come up with and that means considerable network infrastructure costs, to say nothing of the storage demands. Third it has network effect going for it. Nobody is going to watch videos on your platform if there's only a couple dozen of them total. The sheer size and scope of YouTube means no matter what you're looking for you can find something to watch. It's a one stop shop for AV content.
Every single competitor to YouTube has failed on one of those points, usually the first one, rarely the second. The last service I saw come close to hitting all three was Vimeo, but it flamed out not even a decade after it launched. Twitch.tv is struggling to make their accounting work and isn't even a direct competitor because they're pushing hard for live streams as opposed to pre-recorded videos. Alternatives like PeerTube have no business model and will never attract creators or a mainstream audience. Paid hosting platforms like Floatplane are replacements for traditional video streaming services like Amazon Video or Netflix not really platforms where just anybody can set up a channel and start posting videos.
To paraphrase a famous saying, YouTube is the worst public video streaming service except for every other one. Until someone comes along and figures out how to make enough money to reliably pay creators and has enough capital to actually serve that content reliably and in high quality YouTube isn't going anywhere.
I wanna like Peertube as an alternative, but I can't find any content I like there. And the app is so awkward to use.
I use Odysee and Peertube where possible but yeah they're somewhat awkward, and the biggest thing I typically miss is the comments. As awful as most Youtube comments are, the critical mass is there, if you're looking for a quick link to something in the video, the summary that the author should've included but didn't, the correction where the author was wrong, or something else of actual value, chances are whatever it is you're trying to find somewhere on the top heap of Youtube comments. As with most social media, the value is not in the service itself, it's in the community. Steering that community towards somewhere where it will actually be appreciated is a herculean task when someone has to be the pioneers and live in that desert and put in the work to prepare it for the ones who will come after them.
I glanced at odysee and noped out the second the front page I was looking at was full of trump racist propaganda
Yes, until we bring the light of civilization, it will be the wild west and the natives are trying to kill us.
As much as I do complain about Peertube, I do like how it's like the old personal blog days. Just kinda quietly do your own thing. I'm actually thinking of starting a channel to teach Japanese. I'll probably have a few lines of my diary and break down the vocabulary and grammar in English and French. It's like shit nobody would give a crap about, but it'll get me to keep up with my diary and maybe someone will find the info useful, which I think the earlier days of personal websites and blogs were like.
That sounds like a great idea. I think the independence of the old web is something we should aspire to, it's a big part of what gave the internet its soul, and that's what big tech has suffocated with ads and monetization and platform-control.
PeerTube would be great if you didn't have to self-host. And yes, I mean that. Every instance I've found that allows user uploads charges the users for bandwidth (or charges a subscription fee). I've never found an instance yet that works like Dailymotion or YouTube. When we get a big instance (like mastodon.social or one of the big two Lemmy instances), that allows user uploads freely and seamlessly, we'll start seeing it grow.
There are quite a few that allow uploads without charges or subs. But not if you start now, right now because costs have risen so much you cannot possibly cover them if someone comes in and uploads 20 or so high quality high bandwidth sucking videos because well, there isnt really the audience and the money is basically lost... and as said that is where we are. Doesn't help they only really use h.264 and don't get ad revenue. Creators have zero interest in making a video if they don't get something back, either in plenty of views or some income which currently, to be brutal, they have zero chance of achieving on peertube compared to youtube
Oh I didn't know that was the case. I've only really started using it, but I think peertube.wtf hosts some for you. I just started a new account with fedimovie today — because I can't seem to access wtf for some reason — and I think it said on their sign up page that they have 100gb for me to use.
So, when you say self-host, would I have to have an instance of Peertube myself, or can I have an account with an instance and host just the videos?
My experience is that basically, if you actually want to do anything meaningful with video, you need to host your own instance, because no one wants to be beholden to the bandwidth, especially if it gets any uptake. In which case, obviously, you're on your own for the costs. The only way I can see PeerTube working is if a few of the medium size YouTubers & Twitch streamers with decent monthly Patreon takes band together and fund it that way.
Are you me?
Yeah, though I think that you could avoid some of that with a good cross-video-hosting service search engine, as I don't think that most people are engaging in the social media aspect of YouTube. YouTube doesn't have a monopoly on indexing YouTube videos.
But the scale doesn't hurt them, that's for sure.
there is, maybe, a market for more specialized, niche platforms...but it's a huge maybe.
nebula seems to be doing very well, but again: highly specialized content, and a closed/curated platform.
other than serving video content, it has little in common with yt...hence the big "maybe"!
and there's been a few similar attempts in recent years, which i don't think really went anywhere either...
Honestly, YouTube is the “least bad” of most commercial social media.
If people go to Twitter or Discord or whatever instead, that would be awful.
That would be the dream! Not sure about actual data but yeah. I want it to be true lol.
Been paying for Nebula for years, but their app has a long way to go.
youtube is already replacing it with AI slop, and propaganda. they increased it. thats where the money is, other than getting it from the major television networks.
i think history buff channels were calling out there were clones of his channel in AI form.
If anyone wants to be part of the solution: ![email protected]
My heavily biased take is I like peertube. And like the creators on it.
Everyone here is speculating about their content, but the simple answer is YouTube just changed how they count the view number. The change basically happened overnight, so it's not some slow attrition of views. They said in the WAN Show that while the view count halved, the number of likes hasn't changed (the view/like ratio doubled), and the revenue they earned hasn't changed (CPM doubled). All of this points that the same number of humans are watching, but what counts as a view in the "views" number just changed.
I used to watch LTT all the time. I stopped watching some years back after he installed a six figure Wi-Fi system on his "estate." I had enjoyed watching a relatable everyman review computer hardware, and more often than not break things. I didn't sign up to watch a millionaire dick around with exotic tech in his McMansion.
Doesn't help he has actually gotten dumber over the years.
He very clearly has fallen out of touch and basically is just a personality at this point.
So your not even watching a tech enthusiast millionaire dick around with things.
Your just watching a rich white dude dick around with tech and his company.
I always hated his "oh no i hope i don't drop this expensive thing that you peasants can hardly afford... Oh i dropped it' schtick. People cheered him on like aome village idiot. At some point he said he feels like he's pushing expensive unnecessary stuff to people who can hardly afford it and he wants to stop doing it. But he never did. He's doing tech reviews and i assume a podcast, because everyone has a podcast, and his studio is ABSURD. I watched some other video where they needed something from the LTT studio and they even commented on how fucking big his operation is. He had rooms there he didn't even know existed. I stick to the opinion that he's just a slimy rick man, nothing else.
last i heard his company is worth 10+million, yea hes definitely just sitting back and not really advancing his channel/.
It's a business with over 100 employees, if it wasn't huge where would the employees be? His dropping thing always existed, he just got rich in the meantime.
Would it be any better if he's black?
Why racially profile if it doesnt matter?
Edit: I like how I am getting downvoted for asking why the mentioned skin color is of any importance.
If a dude or dudette is a rich asshole it doesnt matter if they are yellow, white, black or green. Asshole stays asshole.
His skin colour is maybe mentioned, because being white rich male is peak privileged, although also being a governor somewhere or having a seat in government would be even better
sounds like he got Lazy and just let his, lower- level plebs manage the channels where he just comes in and "promote" product and leaves kind of person. i was subscribed to another channel that did that, they just wanted to "not be present" while channel is declining because its still doing well, now its not doing well(they had several issue arise that caused it.) no interest in change with the times.
I just wired my house for Ethernet for a a few thousand dollars of electrician time. It’s multiple times faster than any WiFi can be. Why would anyone drop $100k on wifi??
As I recall, he installed a top of the line commercial grade system in his house and surrounding property for the lols.
Oh dude. The next drop. DIY it. It's easier than you think. Even the cheap keystone punch tools will get the job done.
I’ve done it. It’s not the wire crimping I paid for, it’s the crawling around under the house and in the attic to route the runs.
I never considered that the tech scene isn't interesting anymore, but you're right. Everything is boring incremental upgrades these days. Things are having the fun squeezed out of them for profits (in app purchases, proprietary lockin, cloud shit that dies or has permanent bugs, etc), lots of stuff just feels like it's plateaued or is junk.
Don't forget that most of us are getting priced out of the hobby in general. It's not fun when you can't afford to play around in your own hobby. You move on and find a new hobby.
Retro handhelds is mine. At least playing aroundvwith something technology adjacent. Its fun and until the tarrifs came in, very cheap.
Very true. The last decade and a half have just been switching between round and square corners with mild spec bumps. VR was supposed to be it I think, but it just isn't useful enough.
VR still is it. If you have €€€€
Take the bigscreen beyond 2.
A vr-headset starting at 1300 (incl. taxes/import).
Uhhh yeah.
Not happening for what little VR could offer me in my current situation (and I don't watch porn).
Facebook is the best and worst thing to have happened to VR. The Quest is an affordable headset that basically killed all competition and innovation in VR for years. Still holding out hope that the next Valve headset will come out eventually and shake up the scene again.
Theres leaks about some 'Steam Frame' happening.
Might be close.
There have been leaks about the Deckard 2 for years now and people always say that Valve will announce it any day now. I'll believe it when I see it at this point.
Trademark entries are a good indicator there is something nearer than further away.
And all the big "innovations" have been in venture capitalist bubbles like AI, NFTs, etc. or soured by the companies and people behind them. I hear SpaceX has been doing some cool stuff, but all I can see is Musk making a flying Cyber Truck for his ego on NASA's dollar. One of the reactors at 3 Mile Island is coming back online, the first US nuclear power project in who knows how many years...in order to fuel Microsoft's AI data centers.
Advancements in tech used to be about pushing the boundaries of what we're capable of. Now, it's all about pushing the boundaries of how much money the oligarchs can stuff into a single pocket.
Why is Yahtzee complaining about the same issue? He does games, not tech: https://youtu.be/cpVnx4_yqTo
Tbf games content is also saturated af.
He has literally publicly talked about this many times, he is very much aware of this fact and has stated that he's always looking for things that he can try and make interesting.
On this part, I honestly don't quite get it. It's definitely a bit more corporate now, they are a 100 person company, but when it comes to the videos, I don't really see what else you'd want them to do? Sure they have some sponsored videos every now and then that are just showcases of a specific product, but even then I typically find them relatively interesting. And they still have a lot of videos where they're trying to build novel stuff and thinkering. Yeah, sure, it's typically on a higher level than what the average Joe would be capable of doing in their backyard, but I still feel like there's a place for it. Take one of the more recent videos, the one with the double-decker table. It's extremely cool to me, they took a regular table and a sit-to-stand desk, put one on top of the other, and made effectively two desks in one, one for gaming and one for a hobby. It's not something I'd build for myself, but it's a really fun concept.
YouTube is hostile to viewers unless you pay them £20 a month.
It’s like 15 ads per 2 mins screen time with 2 being unstoppable and 1 being 3 minutes long. Slightly exaggerated but not far from the truth. It’s horrible. And they slow everything down too, the main video fake buffers whereas when you’re in premium it doesn’t.
I didn’t mind paying a fiver but had to do it via the moon to get it cheap but now they have stopped that.
They are using automatic dubbing by default here in France! I was horrified the first time.
After some time it "learns" you don't want it.
But what grinds my gears instead are auto-translated video titles.
Because I am watching maybe 70-80% english content I decided the lesser evil is to just set the language to english instead.
Annoying as fuck but managable.
Google has always made it extremely clear that they don't believe it's possible for the human brain to know more than one language, and that anyone who claims to know more than one is a liar and a witch and has no place in their platforms.
I hate them for auto translating the video titles and descriptions with no way to turn them off, I even installed an extension to restore the original titles but YT broke it again intentionally or unintentionally with their unending tweaks.
It horrifies me as a German. They also get titles, descriptions and comments wrong all the time. It legitimately doesn't work.
This honestly doesn't surprise me, because English proficiency in France is below that of Spain, Russia and even Italy, which says a lot.
For anyone following the smart tube next tutorial on github you don't need to do anything after installing the "kutt.it/......." Download. You do not need to transfer an APK from your phone or computer. Literally just download the downloader, and type the beta or stable package address and install, also make sure you have developer options enabled beforehand.
How do I do that on my android tv?
And God forbid you enable captions on the video or something - it'll disable itself every time an ad plays.
How do I turn that feature on?
I keep turning off captions off, and every few days they are automatically turned back on.
"That's the neat part: Fuck you >:("
- Youtube
you can force a lot of options still when you upload a video OR provide a link. Plenty do that. For example in the tags add yt:cc=on will force on captions when you play a video
Or you use adblock
I would but I primarily watch on my tv
Sadly not. Apple TV
Get the ublock origin lite and on for safari, had worked an absolute treat for stopping YouTube ads on my iPad.
Another tip; Orion, the browser developed by Kagi can install proper Firefox extensions. You can have the real full uBlock Origin extension in the browser.
Edit: I believe it can handle Chromium extensions as well but who cares about those?
I assume you're using a "smart" TV.
Those things only exist to take power away from you. You should hook up a PC or laptop to your TV with a wireless keyboard and mouse so you're not being herded by techbros.
I’m quite happy with my Apple TV and Plex
I have the same setup as you and just pay the Premium. One thing I would recommend is getting isponsorblocktv on your server. It skips the ad reads within the YouTube content and works on Apple TV. Every year or so I look for a tracker doing YouTube or a sonarr YouTube fork. The instinct to hoard data is strong. But none have worked consistently for me.
Ah good shout, I remember looking in to that a while back but never went ahead.
The hard thing about needing premium is I could likely easily not have it, but the scumbags limit downloads (cache) on YouTube kids to premium members, which comes in handy in a pickle for sure for my daughter.
Instead of using those, you could be using a free streaming site. You'll get more content and it's easier to set up.
Just type in the URL, and search for what you want.
Here's one of the best sites I've found: https://hydrahd.io/ I guarantee they have significantly more offerings than either apple tv or your plex.
Free streaming sites are awful. I prefer my way thank you.
And I don’t mind paying for things, just not getting ripped off.
I buy things on 4k that are special, then on iTunes for in between and then high seas everything else. I have a decent home server.
No they aren't, lol. But whatever floats your boat.
I'll be over here enjoying more things for a cheaper price and helping others do the same.
Yeah fuck using a keyboard and mouse at 5 meters away. You really should roll a custom Linux box with a remote control setup and Plasma Bigscreen. Custom YouTube client too, for better visibility
Don't listen to this person. He's trying to make things unnecessarily complicated because he doesn't know any better.
We don't see people using keyboards for their TVs, instead we see them slowly type with on screen keyboards. A remote control is not going to alleviate this and will make setup significantly more complicated.
I'm going to block this user now, so I won't get to see his reply. I've been on the internet long enough to recognize people like him for what they are and move on.
Lol you’re the one plugging a super inconvenient solution as if it should be the default, I just took it farther to ridicule yours. It’s great that you can’t stand criticism of your questionable ideas and have to block others. Means your ideas aren’t too be taken seriously.
Have you considered that the average TV user sits down after a hard day and doesn’t want to troubleshoot a wireless mouse, nor boot a computer separately from turning on the TV? The world out there is rough, your TV is supposed to be the one thing that just works and numbs it down for you so you can pretend things are fine.
no smart tv but through a tv box (not android). Don't mind the ads when we watch on our projector, if I do I watch on wifes gaming pc also hooked up to projector
Yep agreed.
It's downright disgusting to browse youtube without premium or an adblocker.
Sadly I need premium simply because I am watching on an Android TV and I am not trusting third party clients with my google account.
Too much stuff is associated with it (monetary)
And then there is the occasional 30 minute to an hour infomercial that comes on obvious stuff people watch to go to sleep! I wanted someone softly talking about outer spacey things, not you're shitty product I give so much little of a fuck about that I didn't even look at what was being advertised. I hate you so much I will not even remember your name to give you free advertising by birding about you online!
On broadcast TV, a 30 minute timeslot had only 23 minutes of actual content and 7 minutes of ads.
That's what we're heading back to. 20% of the watch time is ads.
I only pay them because I watch a stupid amount of YouTube. Hours a day, many more hours when not working.
If those ads come back while I'm paying though, the flag flies.
I have premium through a page that makes family groups and you pay a lot less. From time to time there is an issue with the group and you spend like two days without premium until it is fixed.
During those periods YT is unwatchable and I skip using it until the issue is fixed
Useful idiot mentality. They're charging you that money to maximize profit, not because it's necessary to provide the service.
Your "fivers" are paying for their nicer campuses, executive bonuses, and lavish business trips/vacations. Analysts also use it as an excuse to charge more, since the data shows that people like you are "happy/proud" to get ripped off.
I wish proles were smarter and a bit more mean so they could better recognize how they're being taken advantage of and how often they support their oppressors.
Too many of you go along with getting taken for a ride because you want to fit in and avoid conflict. Businessmen take advantage of that mentality every day.
Yes, large scale video hosting is notoriously free to provide.
YouTube the service absolutely has a cost to it. It’s been born by the owners at first and then people who watch ads. It got profitable when they started showing more ads. Premium is a way to get out of watching ads. You and I use adblockers and it’s fine but if a significant share of people did, the cost for paying users would have to keep increasing.
thus the continued war on ads...
It must be exhausting being this way.
Ignorance is bliss, I tell ya h'wat.
The most recent findings from Brodie Robertson were that the vieas to likes ratio skyrocketed, something that LTT also has confirmed on their side in the newer stream, and what seems like similar behavior in DarkviperAU's channel. It seems that the likes are the same or higher, and the actual pay for the ads are basically the same, but the views are reduced. It's as if views were the same but are being displayed lower than usual.
Not that most people here would care apparently, because the majority just wants to shit on Linus above actually having any worthwhile look into any of this stuff
Edit: Some direct links to said videos for whoever is interested
Ya, I can't believe how negative people are towards LTT. That channel is the reason I de-googled when I did, dove into home assistant, even checked out Linux (and now use arch full time by the way). I'm not super interested in defending a company let alone a YouTube personality, but like Jesus Christ some most of the people commenting negatively about LTT need to chill the fuck out. They're not that bad, they clearly pay people well, they're open and honest about most shit. If your bullshit detector is going off with LTT I think it needs tuning because you're probably hitting a lot of false negatives IMHO.
I have no doubt being as wealthy as Linus is is changing him, I have no doubt that's effecting the company, but there's nothing I'm seeing as a regular watcher that is glaringly bad or evil and I recognize in myself I'm actively starting to default to "fuck off" for millionaires so like ┐(￣ヘ￣)┌. I don't think the channel is getting grandfathered in on that clause either, they just seem to like people doing their best.
I don't like Linus's time-theft stance as of late, the most recent multi monitors vid had a comedic discussion between him and an employee and I recognize his job in that role is to be the straight man and say time charging fraud is theft or whatever but it feels out of touch. That's a negative thing I can point to I guess. Am I gonna consider Linus or LTTY evil or shit because he's vocal about theft being theft even though I think corpos can fuck off because they're getting more productivity then we're getting paid - no, no I'm not.
Yahtzee is complaining about the same issue: https://youtu.be/cpVnx4_yqTo
Something has changed in the last few months
It's an article about Linus and viewership decline, a lot of people on here (including myself) probably once watched and then moved on. Of course the view:like ratio would skyrocket if less common people are viewing and only his main core is keeping on (who are giving the likes). You would rather people talk about an unsubstantiated claim of viewership conspiracy instead?
It's not unsubstantiated; It's a very visible sudden shift in the same date range across multiple channels. I would also note the pay staying the exact same is definitely out of the ordinary. To answer your question, what I would rather is people learn to shut up when something is happening that they don't care to look into any further, rather than act like the Reddit-like cesspool of confidently wrong people that just invent their own theories for things.
Google is making users/consumers not want to use/consume google things by making those things more difficult, more invasive, less user friendly to use/consume.
That's it. That's all.
If I just want to watch a clip that I could before but now I have to sign in because it thinks I'm a not, NO
If it wants me to watch ads for things I'll never buy and actually forces me to, NO.
If it kills the front ends I prefer to use, or kills the ability to watch via proxy, for my privacy and/or security. NO.
If it feeds me Nazi shit without clicking a single link on a new install on a new browser with no profile on a new IP, fucking NO.
I dunno. Something about the content I think.
A few years back some of their content was fun and interesting. Now lately it's all either "here's a bunch of comparisons of hardware you can't even afford" or "Linus puts some ridiculous tech in his own personal house - thanks for subsidizing his home improvement projects by the way"
I will still watch an occasional video but there are other tech related channels that I enjoy a lot more.
The clickbait titles and thumbnails destroyed most of the interest I had in their videos but at that time, it was clear that they were pivoting to a more typical less enthusiast-level audience. I still found some of their occasional videos somewhat interesting but the increasing hypocrisy and shit they've pulled made me stop watching all together.
Then why is Yahtzee complaining about the same issue? He does games, not tech: https://youtu.be/cpVnx4_yqTo
Has the Second Wind channels quality gone down too, AT THE EXACT SAME TIME as LTT?
That must be devastating for the narcissist.
why narcissist?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Udn7WNOrvQ
I don't have an hour to spend watching someone talk into a camera, can I get a TLDR?
That's a weird way of describing Linus being shown to be a narcissistic thundercunt, in exquisite detail, with receipts.
I haven't seen the video yet either, but that's not bias, that's Louis Rossmann. He always speaks like that. He's not a random tech YouTuber. He's very provocative and holds a cult-like fanbase (though I haven't watched enough of his to have an opinion whether that's warranted; I personally don't like provocative rage content but that seems to be all the rage).
Also, there's extensive chaptering with a title for each.
Tl;dr: please, no one watch Linus showing his whole ass.
Are you on his staff or something, or just a fanboy/flying monkey?
It's a detailed account of Linus being awful, his heavy usage of DARVO whenever called out for shit behavior.
I won't summarize, as Louis has receipts for all of it.
I suspect that Linus and Mr. Beast have an identical capacity for empathy.
Me neither. And it's probably contributing to þe declining viewership.
ooh, look an Islander 😊
I regularly watch hour+ videos, and there's quite a few 10+ hour videos I've enjoyed. Just gotta find the right people.
Oh the rossman video.
I hate how obsessed on dumb shit he gets. The man is legitimately doing great work usually, and then he takes something minor that an otherwise ally says or does and blows it out of proportion.
This man would have made a great tankie. Unfortunately he made a whole 20 minute video on why AOC is stupid for saying unskilled labor doesn't exist and then explaining exactly the points she was making.
I legitimately love this mans work and I wanna support him, but man is he petty.
when streamers get super-political, they are no better than the right winger influencers.
I stopped watching LTT years ago. His channel is crap. He's a tech personality who seems to barely understand technology, so most of his videos are just over the top bullshit and stunts. Not to mention his awful annoying vocal fry. He's like the male Fran Drescher.
Plus, Linus has been a complete asshole to GamersNexus, one of the best channels for investigative journalism in tech. As far as I'm concerned, Linus is your typical business entity, and lacking ethics.
He generates far too much content without any depth, and it's all infotainment.
Probably doesn't help that a bunch of the decent channels were bought by private equity and are now churning out boring, safe and uninteresting content.
https://youtu.be/hJ-rRXWhElI (a yt link, lol).
A brief summary from https://www.dailydot.com/news/youtube-channel-private-equity/
Plenty others. A key giveaway is when a channel diverges their risk. When the front man who is the reason you have watched the channel suddenly has co-hosts and large segments from other channels in their regular content.
Eh. I lost any interest I had with Linus after the whole Gamers' Nexus thing, and I'm definitely staying away after hearing what Louis Rossman had to say about the guy.
What I've noticed is YouTube recommending me more obscure videos, from very small creators.
I very much appreciate whatever they're doing, regardless of how these bigger channels are being hit by it. Yesterday I got recommended a video by an elderly woman, showing a mug warmer she bought. It was very sweet, had less than 30 views and it was a lovely contrast to the flashy, over edited videos stretching a paragraph to 10+ minutes.
Not saying the big channels are bad, I just personally like the small time channels and appreciate that YouTube has been (at least with the algorithm it has set for me) giving these small channels a shot at getting an audience.
I've connected with a lot of people from smaller channels, joined communities etc. yet this is much more difficult with the larger ones (in some I've been to, over the years, the chatrooms they set up are so huge the moderation sometimes just gives up or doesn't even exist in any practical way).
Lol 90% of comments taking the opportunity to hate on LTT and missing the point of the post. Views are dropping for multiple channels.
Also the LTT hate is mostly "He's so rich and out of touch". LTT is the mass produced TV show for tech YouTube. It's meant to be entertaining and easy to watch for the masses. I like watching most of their videos. Gamers Nexus has its place too but it's a different kind of nerd whose a lil more cynical and obsessed with specs, a lot more niche and it shows in the views.
To each their own.
Reasons I see:
a) the generation that grew up watching LTT is now at age where they don't watch as much YT as they did before b) increasing amount of things happen which put viewers off c) consumer technology peaked and is now "boring" d) new generations don't have as much interest in technology altogether
Let's explain:
a + c) people watching LTT years ago were living in an exiting tech era where it boomed and you had mayor leaps in tech basically on a yearly basis. Moving from floppy disks to CD's to USB sticks. CRT to LCD displays. 16-bit to 32-bit color. Solitare and Minesweeper to Call of Duty 4 and Need for Speed. Symbian and Blackberry to Android and iOS. Tons of manufacturers, tons of competition, tons of new and exctiting stuff.
Let's observe the state today: iPhone looks the same for the past half decade. Android is basically just Google and Samsung. Storage is now all in cloud. New games are recycled and upscaled old games. Every new generation of hardware is same thing just 10% better/faster. New OS releases are just refinements without new features. Most changes are done just for the sake of change. Existing hardware can basically be enough for 5+ years. What is LTT realistically supposed to talk about that is interesting? There is simply no more interesting tech.
This ties in into d) - tech peaked, new generations "just use it as it is", there is no need to tinker with it, prebuilt PC's are more than fine for years to come. Since AI the IT job landscape seems to be in decline, both in demand and in pay. People do other stuff now that is more lucrative.
LTT is dependent on stuff happening so that they can make videos about it. But, stuff kinda just isn't happening. Or the stuff that happens is just not noteworthy news anymore.
I completely stopped watching him after the GPU fiasco. I always thought he might be super slimy, but I think I can reasonably say that he is.
I'm watching less 'tube in general because youtube is obnoxious as fuck. They devote so many resources to getting you to watch ads, it actually causes the whole experience to suffer even with an adblock.
I wonder if it has to do with ad fatigue. Watching YouTube without a block is like going to an orgy with a bunch of ppl with STIs
Hey man, don't bash the WRX! It's a cool car 😉
But yeah, blocking ads is the only way to watch YT. I swore off twitch once uBO stopped working there.
the amount of ads yt pushes, if your not using adblockers people are just toturing themselves. Also i dont login so no subscription for them, because alot of the content creators eventually turn shitheel down the line anyways, or give(non-malicious)misinformation in thier industry.
I've noticed this in many of the channels I subscribe to, 5 years ago they had something like 1m views on some videos regularly and now only 300k (or similar decline), all of them. Some of them even made videos about it. My guess, and theirs, is YouTube changed the algorithm and also the introduction of shorts.
the channel has lost its charm. its just puking out videos, but there is no content. no real hardware tests. only drama and clickbait crap. he has lost the techsavvy part of the viewers on his tech channel with pushing garbage into everyones face.
Problem with their channel specifically, is their hypocrisy, BS, lack of research and just misleading their viewer-base. People remember.
It's not about Linus specifically. Many other channels (with actual good content) have been experiencing the same. Creators are assuming it has to do with restricted mode, but I'm not sure it's convincing, it probably has more to do with algorithmic changes youtube has made.
Google is now expecting users to watch ads that are sometimes a full 25% of the viewing time, or slowing access and requiring logins when adblock is being used. And even if you wade through all that, watching Youtube tech and info videos has become a lot like looking at online recipes. The majority of what you find is fluff and filler for only small amounts of useful content.
I used to go to Youtube daily for research and entertainment but now I avoid the site completely whenever possible. It seems we've finally reached an enshittification tipping point.
It's about time.
I came here to see if it was the early signs of the demise of YouTube. I secretly want all these content producers to move to a privacy-respecting platform, especially those who produce tech or privacy related content.
Now, for why I don't watch videos anymore, the medium isn't as easily consumed by me. I prefer text. At home, it's noisy and I get interrupted every 90 seconds. I lose interest quickly and fast forwarding isn't as easy as scanning text for a topic shift. My mind wanders on some topics, internally exploring that topic deeper. With text, i can just stop reading. With video, i need to realize that I'm processing a thought and hit pause, then rewind a bit. I get interrupted a lot. On the bus, I need to remember headphones and I hate when people shoulder surf. That's harder to do with text. Give me a plain text RSS feed that I can read anytime.
Maybe at some point we can all stop watching and hence supporting YouTube, that'd be nice.
Because people wont stay 14 to 16 year olds for long
Yeah, because Linus is kinda shit more and more. Hes wholly turned me off from his content over the years because of how he acts, what he says, etc. And you can 'trust me bro' on that.
I really like and appreciate people like Steve. I like what he's doing and how he's doing things. He hasn't become a greedy corpo and hes just a very intelligent and caring person who believes in standing up for what's right; Even if that means calling out a friend in the industry.
I feel like Linus is out of touch with reality. He's not at all down to earth anymore.
It's interesting that no one seems to be mentioning the fact that new generation is using TikTok and older generation is watching media less and less. To me it looks like YouTube itself is cooked in the long term, and they brought it upon themselves. Restore the gotdamn dislikes so I can at least navigate the damn platform.
That doesn't explain a sudden drop.
How dare you use facts to challenge our beliefs!!
The more interesting part for me, that they mentioned on the WAN show, is that while viewers dropped significantly, the revenue basically hasn't changed. They're more or less making the same amount of money from half the amount of reported viewers.
Are people pretending that Youtube doesn't tweedle the knobs and intervenes massively in the al mighty algorithm like it's not just a audience mind puppet but some kind of transcendental meritocracy ?
So many possible reason.
Linus has a history of scummy behavior which turns people off.
Everything gets boring eventually. Especially things that are supposed to be funny.
Google ads are extra obnoxious making the entire platform more annoying to use and most of us will never pay for youtube. Those ads are not even selling products I would be interested in. Investment scams, car accident claim ads, AI voiced robot panda. It just annoying noise.
Nothing lasts forever.
I'm sure declining viewers has nothing to do with the various controversies such as auctioning off prototypes, rushed reviews with misleading or false conclusions, mistreating staff etc. Channels like Gamers Nexus really laid into him.
I was never a fan of Linus tech tips. He always seemed like a weird guy. I did watch that video where he totally fucked his Linux installation by being really dumb. The package manager warned him that he was about to destroy his system and made him type something like "Yes, I know what I'm doing". He then reacted like, "why would Linux do this to me!? It's so hard!"
Either a paid shill or an absolute moron.
can be both, yes and i also noticed wierd vibes from. cant understand the fans shilling for this pseudo-tech person that thinks hes jack of all trades.
My theory is that we have a limited number of hours a day to view content. We also have a growing number of channels and content in general. Algorithms include new content we kight enjoy, and for every new channel we get hooked on, one of the older ones drops off.
Tv shows rarely (ever?) Last forever. Why should channels?
LTT had multiple pretty bad scandals, didn't they? I recently needed to find some technical information and other places had better information. LTT seems to be more of a pop culture tech channel? I don't even really know how to describe what I mean. It's like the reviews are more like fluff pieces I guess? They aren't super duper technical. But I also don't watch them much so maybe I missed something.
Those stupid thumbnails pushed me away
It's insane he ever had a healthy viewership in the first place.
His videos have always seemed like long-form advertisements for various tech products
I learned about him right before his whole PopOs thing. I couldn't believe that people would take computing advice from someone who also doesn't read what's on the screen in front of him. I expect this from my users I do tech support for, but not someone that bills himself as something as an expert.
Scrapyard wars and secret shopper are fun
My guess they started accounting for bot visits. Perhaps a lot of videos before were visited by bots. Not just to bump views but could be for training AI.
Then why are other channels noticing a viewer drop too?
https://youtu.be/cpVnx4_yqTo
i read that his producing company was worth 10+million at the time.
Stopped watching this douche nozzle when they were having a big meet and greet to celebrate their new studio. And he looks at the camera guy and tells them inf front of all the fans they're having a good time with... Overtime tonight guys, we gotta edit this footage and have it online today. Would have quit my job on the spot and as a viewer I quit my part in the bullshit right then and there.
I think it’s a loss of talent and shuttering of shows across his company’s channels that are leading it. I can only watch so many “reporting verbatim the benchmark results of new tech product” or “I made my family a sleeper desk” or “dark horse home theater for my kid” videos. I’d much rather watch the highly produced “Mac Address” videos with Jonathan or retro gaming systems and setups videos with Anthony but they aren’t a part of LMG anymore.
Riley is doing well on tech linked but he’s talented enough to get a real job and after that, what’s the last interesting thing that LMG has? WAN show clips?
I stopped watching LTT videos when they just became long-form ads. Or when everyone five minutes was a sponsored segment.
Youtube has seen exactly the same slowdown as everything on the internet. Plenty of people have less time to spend watching videos and being more worried about money (lack of it) whilst also spending more time on other things.i cannot blame one single thing but I have noticed that the complaints about AI being literally everywhere are at the foreground when people moan to me!
Maybe try not threatening to sue former employees when they come forward about sexual harassment
I was never a fan of LTT, or his videos, but I did watch one video, his Pop os one and that immediately confirmed why.
Also that video where he tried Mac OSX for the first time. All his complains in that video were that it didn’t work like Windows.
There is a difference between those willing to change something and those trying something out.
I use Apple devices at work and the sometimes ass-backwards way of hotkeys or UI decisions is really aggravating annoyance in regards to logically understanding the task needed to do something comparison to another OS like Windows.
E.g. deleting the app data of an app on iOS.
Why can't I just reset a damn app? Why do I need to uninstall and download it again from the store??
Nah sure there are some annoyances with MacOs. But most things are just because it works differently. Different doesn’t automatically mean worse. I use all three OSs on a regular basis, they all have their pros and cons. But Windows has the most bs out of the three.
They've spent the last several years playing into "The Algorithm", to the point where most videos felt unnatural. Tight posting schedules affecting quality, topic choices, sudden endings, etc.
Not that I care, but I'm curious to see if they will switch to making content they actually care about, or double down and start doing proper brainrot.
Sadly he mentioned (as far as I remember) on the live show that they might return to a higher frequency schedule once the workflow settled more in.
Broadly maybe the viewers are just getting sick of all of the shilling for cheap shit that goes on with the ever increasing sponsor segments so many channels have these days. Arguments will be had about just how needed all of those marketing dollars are for the creator to keep doing their thing vs them getting used to a lot of money and wanting even more of it. But the end result is a worse viewing experience for the consumer. I know there are a lot of channels that make good content that I've stopped watching because they spend a quarter of the video shilling junk. Sure sponserblock would get rid of those sections, but it won't send a message like unsubscribing and stopping watching them completely will.
Also maybe this is a larger Youtube usage hit due to their aggressive anti-adblock nonsense and uptick in ads and shitty UI design.
For Linus specifically, he has the above issues as well as having been very publicly outed as a slimy deuce. What his channels put out is not unique enough these days to justify dealing with the shilling and his companies bad behavior.
People are jumping the gun on Linus here, but it's real, the Second Wind crew do a great job and their recent videos, even the Fully Ramblomatic series are doing way worse.
I don’t really watch new tech videos anymore because I’m not I. The market for new tech. Mostly because it’s way too expensive now and my old stuff works well enough.
yes p47 tariffs plus his recent shenanigins with postal deliveries.
Linus looking at his failing channel.
I dont know if anyone has noticed but...
Can we no longer watch youtube without being logged in? Every embedded video i see doesnt work. Every time i try to click on a video it tells me to sign in.
If i have an ad block running it basically blocks the website.
I really think its the auto plays and the untracked accounts.
Youtube would rather be able to track every user and make more profit per person than go big tent all audiences.
Don't care
I can't talk about the others but LTT went form a tech channel to a luxury products channel. I'd blame some of their loss on that and the controversies.
Maybe YT has started to be more aggressive towards viewbots like Twitch? Or has changed something in the algorithm (again) and fucked up (again).
…it’s the algorithm, and not putting every second video behind a member paywall.
The "member" videos and the new age verification was finally the push I needed to use youtube less. I don't get why creators are pushing their shit like that and it's EVERYONE it seems. Some are 1.99, some are 6+. It's just insane youtube thinks it's a viable market when everyone left cable because of the cost and now it's 10x more the cost for like 10% of the shit to watch.
LTT does it because some people would prefer to watch the exclusive content on yt instead of on floatplane (their own platform)
As a floatplane subscriber, you're really not missing much. I don't even watch most of the exclusives.
But you know who won Scrapyard Wars before the normies 😀
This might be another example of over reliance on AI to judge what’s good or not to show users: https://news.clownfishtv.com/p/reddit-asks-did-youtube-break-itself
Maybe if he did videos that were interesting again...not like my wife hates our tech at home videos or whatever
When he returns the cooler block he damaged and stole, I'll stop trying to turn people away from his content.
?
Check the vids from Gamers Nexus.
The one Billet Labs confirmed they were never supposed to return and the whole thing was a misunderstanding (again, according to Billet Labs), that one?
But that's how all drama works, the drama is popular, the later resolution is not seen by many.
Some other analysis: https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2025/youtube-views-are-down-dont-panic
I think the biggest channels I watch have under 4 million subscribers, and most of my channels have less than a million. I've never watched the big channels, so I don't really care.
A while back, YT asked me about turning on my watch history, but I didn't know it was off. I don't know what that was about--I think they changed something--but my knee-jerk reaction is to NOT do what they want me to do, so I left it off. Now I just watch whatever is new from my subscriptions, and don't have any suggestions cluttering my front page, which is a much better way to use YT, imo. So, thanks, YT.
Viewer bot farms is a thing. Is that a declining business now? And the results starting to show now?
Some pretty serious things going on in the world today that need our support and therefore attention. I consume less entertainment as a byproduct.
YouTube only shows me like 12 channels. I miss variety.
Because of short videos?
Good.
odysee peertube
Remember, so long as you stay subscribed to a channel but don't interact with it in any way(click a vid, comment, dislike it or comments in the comment section) it hurts the channel. Thats why i resubbed to every channel i unsubbed from, that way i can actually hinder them instead of help them. This has been proven from Jesse Cox being told so by youtube staff during meetings he's had, you literally have to start a fresh channel free from the dead subs to get the algorithm to pick you back up.
Fuck Linus.
I just don't get suggested his content anymore. Then again I just found out every channel I've ever subscribed to is under a seperate category and usually not under the main YouTube page..
Basically I'm blocking every channel I've subscribed to without ever realising..
This is now the second time in a short period of time that I stumble across someone who didn't know the subscriptions page existed. Or at least that is how I interpreted what you said.
I always thought it was obvious that the main feed is for discovering new stuff based on watch history and the ol trusty content can be found in the sub box. It is always fascinating to see how differently people use software I use daily while thinking it is how everyone does it
The subscribed view has shorts filling most of it, it became useless
I just use RSS to track my subscriptions instead
My subscribed has 1 row of shorts no matter how far I scroll, never adds more.
I have to go to my subscribed channels just to see what they’ve posted now. YT definitely changed up their algorithm and it’s useless for me now. It doesn’t present anything I’m interested in.
before, if I clicked on a new video it might show me a few videos after that which fit the same theme/category. Now if I watch one fucking video it completely floods my algorithm with the same shit back to back. I have different accounts on every device I watch something on (like in the kitchen when cooking, etc) and they're so fucking drastically different in the feed it's insane.
do you have the "important" tab at he top of subs now? it shows me videos i have already watched and I have no clue how it works or how youtube decides what is important but it's unnecessary and annoying.
I guess the point is channels are seeing a dropping viewership across the board. Or at least two different creators of VERY different videos have had the same experience so far. And the reddit thread behind this has more people (assuming they are telling the truth) confirming the drop.
It seems like YouTube is doing something where they don't consider views to be actual "views" anymore. I saw one creator reporting that you only get credit as a view if you also leave a comment on the video because I guess Google thinks this will somehow hamper bots? Sounds like a bunch of bullshit no matter how you look at it. Personally I think Google is just trying to avoid paying creators so they're only crediting them for a fraction of the views they get, but you just know they're charging those advertisers for every single view whether they're paying the creators or not.
Way back in the day I was making $500 a month with AdSense ads on my sites. And then one month I started making $250 a month. I hadn't changed anything. It's a risky thing to rely on.
most influencers cant rely ads from yt anymore, so they switch to brand deals, promotions, thats where they get thier money from. and sometimes patreon.
What a moronic move. I almost never post comments but I watch plenty of content.
Same, but it depends on the goal. If the goal is to have an excuse not to pay creators while still cashing paychecks from advertisers it seems like a pretty smart move. A dick move certainly, but seems to be working exactly as intended.
This I believe.
Commenting on YouTube videos is just shouting into the void
You might be right.
youtube seems to be pushing alot more AI garbage than normal lately as well. they just made a contract with Israel to allow them to flood the site with pro-zionist propaganda.
youtube is also part of the problem, as many videos is made using googles AI video generator.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cpVnx4_yqTo
Its because theres too many "dead subscriptions". The algorithm punishes channels that have subs that dont interact with saud channel.
This is such a strange concept. Like fundamentally a subscription is just a mechanism to allow a viewer to easily keep track of new content on a channel. By viewing the channels contents you're engaging in 100% of the interaction you should be expected to have with a subscribed channel. If Google really wanted to address the problem of old subscriptions people are ignoring they should just prompt people to unsubscribe to channels that they haven't watched any videos from in a long time. Instead they're fucking with view counts because that saves them money. The whole thing is fishy, but Google has always treated being inscrutable and capricious as if those were virtues.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEJpZjg8GuA&t=18
Just use the subscriptions tab (yes, this video does talk about it).
i never login so, its nice to not see the same person/influencer(often ragebait, propaganda when you close and open youtube again.
Oh and as if by magic, after I said something I received an email from a client bemoaning about the drop in youtube viewers. She reckons it is not only a drop in viewers but in viewing time as well. Mentioned bloody AI as well just because everybody is
I have a channel with over 20k subs, nearly all evergreen content. Haven't uploaded a video in many years, so it's slowly getting fewer views. Fun fact, the pandemic saw the highest view counts, and I also didn't add content back then.
Every enhancement YouTube brings is specifically to improve monetization, and since I disable ads on my channel and don't have any sponsored content, I'm not getting any benefits. I also refuse to do shorts, so I'm losing a ton of exposure there, too.
If an active channel isn't doing well, they should call it quits, TBH. They'll either have to compromise the quality of their content "for the algorithm", or their content isn't actually useful outside of a single view.
Note that Sportskeeda is a user-generated source.
Had a discussion with another creator buddy and they said it appeared that there was a load less scraping going on which inflated their viewer figures for months. I wonder if youtube is finally stopping their whole content being scraped perpetually?
I haven’t watched YouTube much since they broke the search. And that’s far from the only thing they broke, it’s just what stopped making the site very worthwhile to me. I’m sure I’m not the only one who’s significantly cut down or stopped using it.
The problem is those channels are very similar. I get tired of hearing the same thing again and again. There is really no need for weekly news
I had never heard of him til all the shit started getting slung around.
temporarily paid more interest to him, when that drama hit last year, about him and the other employee. He looked like he just woke up from a long coma, and wasnt present his channel for some time at the time.
I think its because people don't have money?
What does that have to do with being able to watch videos on a free ad supported platform?
Also this isn't just something happening to LTT, this is happening across the board with many many channels speaking up about drop in views. YouTube did something and it's hurting content creators both large and small
If someone can't afford to be part of the hobby then they arnt goanna watch videos on that hobby
They're going to move on. Find a new hobby that they can't afford to participate in. Then find new creators that do content in that new hobby
Tech has priced out most of the lower and lower middle class. We can't play anymore so we need to find something new to do
So people who couldn’t afford expensive cars didn’t watch Top Gear or Grand Tour?
There are people who do and people who watch. I think the people who do but can't afford are the ones leaving. Now you're left with people watching and the few that can afford to do.
Exactly!
It may not be what that person meant, but, I kinda agree it might be a factor. The free experience has done nothing but become more and more terrible on youtube. The ads have become truly insufferable, and the UI is actively working against you. TV app in particular is borderline unwatchable.
I have always watched YouTube for free, and I am at a point where I am considering ditching the thing completely, because I am not paying another (quite expensive) subscription for it. I haven't yet, but it has certainly slowed down how much I watch.
It's so bad it's even questioning some uses I had for the platform. I used to watch a video while I eat, stuff like that. What's the point if I barely make it out of the initial ad tunnel just before dessert? And when I pause for just a minute to get something, I am immediately hit with another ad break as I resume?
and youtubes gross obssesive push with AI/propaganda videos too.
isnt well know he had incident with a former employer over something like last year? the sub/fans are all just shilling/meming for him. isnt his shtick all just reaction videos on various tech items.
Try peertube?
This guy seems really fake, I have only watched a couple and it too much personality for what I want. I just want to hit the topics and move through quickly, MKBHD and the boss guy are solid.
Other than thatnIbhave only ever heard of these guys when they have been acting like dicks internally and externally.
If you are unhappy because your views went from 2M to 1M the decline is in your mental health
I literally never watch a YouTube videos, as they are just a waste of time. For a given video on a given topic, the same amount of information can be obtained by a decently written blog or article that can be read in a 1/10 of the time it takes to watch q video filled by nonsense blabbering and sponsored segments for revenues. In some extreme cases, if the topic seems really, really , REALLay interesting, I may ask an LLM to summarize the video for me. People should stop linking YouTube videos altogether.
I disagree with you so you should stop posting your opinions altogether.
There's a "block" button somewhere in Lemmy's interface, under my profile. Just use it and go back swallowing crappy YT videos.
Lol they were quoting you bro. Maybe you should stop posting altogether
Thank you, Mr. Obvious. Now you can go back to YT as well.
There's a "block" button somewhere in Lemmy's interface, under my profile. Just use it and go back swallowing.
I feel the same way. I can read really fast and get to the juice of an article faster than it takes for the YouTube video to go through the introduction, sponsors, etc.
Watch veritasium videos, they are well researched and informative. I have sponsor block and ad block so I don't get annoyed
Veritasium is not super high on my trustworthiness list after the self-driving car ad incident
I prefer to read books. Thanks. By the way, the fact that you need adblocker an sponsorblock to enjoy a few videos speaks volumes.
You also need to buy books, or borrow them from someone else who did. YouTube videos are free usually.
There's nothing free in this world. You're paying with your attention and at least metadata, independently on how many blockers you may use.
Yes exactly. They provide a service, you pay for it by watching ads and facilitating personalised advertising.
In comparison, some of the books I’ve bought have cost more per book than a month of YouTube premium, so the value isn’t THAT bad on YouTube.
Only if you don't value your time.
But with those two things I have a good time