Pro tip: before getting yourself pegged make sure to make it clear you want her to be gentle with you, so you don't risk having to question your sexuality.
If being attracted to buff women makes you gay, then gender is not as simple as this twitter gremlin probably believes it to be. But they probably don't want to think about that too much.
I have a friend that says having muscles makes women too masculine. He was not amused when I asked him if that also means he is feminine because he doesn't have any muscle (I don't actually believe either is the case, just wanted to point out his hypocrisy)
nevermind that these are the same people who want to rigidly define women by their gametes, chromosomes, or other biological characteristics (not how buff they are, or how masculine they present)
or that these are the same people who came up with the idea that everyone is straight to begin with ("gay" being a sinful behavior, nobody being born gay)
Well, the original idea is based on the behavior wolves that are (strictly) kept in captivity; that porn writers yoinked into their fanfics… Raise your hands if you think thats applicable on you, I won’t be able to see it, but your surroundings should know that you are iffy!
The original original idea is based on a study about those wolves in captivity that was never peer reviewed/reproduced and was generally confirmed to be absolutely bogus bullshit.
…the book was very much so peer reviewed even at its publishment, the issue was:
-that ‘the being kept in captivity’ was not underlined to the point and via words where layman could understand universally/ be in the point of deniability for spreading nonsense
-was a great fucking book, loads of people read it before the author could actually withdrew it (he immediately started pleading with the publisher once it surfaced) and make it more explicit
It should, but it does not always require that, at least for some soft sciences. In my very niche field (German grammar and German language instruction) studies are almost never reproduced as part of the peer review process, though it is totally normal for people to publish new papers that are essentially reproductions of existing studies.
No, the peers do not necessarily have to spend a decade to repeat the study as there is no singular thesis, nor any experiment… They just look it over while playing with their existent or non-existent beards and if its their speciality then give their names that ‘yes, this checks out’
Gotta love it when losers assume women aren’t on the internet. As a woman, OP is absolutely right - that muscle mommy can turn me gay whenever she wants.
Wait if you think she's hot, does that make you gay, but that makes you straight. But if you're straight and you think she's hot then that makes you gay.
Here's a trick solve your confusion: if you could choose what's in those pants, how long would it take you to make a decide: if you instantly know you want what's in your own pants youre most likely gay, if you know instantly you want exactly what's not in your own pants you're most likely straight, if you need a moment before you know you're likely not straight nor gay. All the other reasons you can think of aren't about sexuality as in what gender do you like but are about sexuality as in what kind of person you want to be with. But it might also be a little more complicated than this.
The complexity is too cognitively taxing so instead of just accepting that there will be people you don't understand, they want to force everything to a strict mold they can easily comprehend, without needing to confront contradictions inherent to the human condition. Letting go of control and accepting the world is far beyond your capacity to fathom is a scary thing. But what is life but the act of letting go?
No, they want only two! They can't handle it if everyone is the same, or if there is a rainbow of ways. To them, it must be two, no more or less! It must be binary!
Edit: This is a very boring grey lenses to view our species. Our closest relatives is bonobos....
Just want to acknowledge that she's put a heap of effort into that body and if I was lucky enough for her to want to snap me in half then old mate can call me fast if he wants.
Leanbeefpatty is also actually natty, which I think is why I still find her hella attractive despite the fact that she could probably snap me like a twig.
Steroids are effective, but I personally don't usually like what they create.
It's NOT Gay if he Wears "makeup" and "a wigs" and LOOKS like a Girl while MY Penis is INSIDE his Butthole! THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER!
If reecethebrah sees a muscular woman, and the first thought he has is "THIS IS A PSYOP TO TURN MEN GAY," then maybe he's telling us more about how the inside of his head works than about the secret homosexual / female body building conspiracy that has been hiding in plain sight this entire time.
I feel so sorry for Patty. She has the unfortunate mix of muscle, attractiveness, nerdiness and popularity that creates a following of neckbeardy guys and parasocial girls.
Reading some of the comments on her recent videos with the new bf makes me put down the phone, walk outside and sit in the sun.
I'm sure the comments are atrocious. But I certainly dont feel bad for her. Fame is a conscious descision that one must maintain. She could simply stop posting today, and quietly delete all her social media over the next year or so, and her notariety would all but disappear. She is famous, making bank, and is a sex icon - as far as hedonistic indulgence goes, I'd say she's doing pretty alright!
And if she has any sense at all (and I believe she does), she'll have long ago gotten off social media herself and handed everything over to a social media manager. She does a few photoshoots per year, plus a few fanservice videos when her manager tells her it would do her good, and then she goes off and goes clinkity clankity in the gym followed by playing dnd or whatever she's into, never even looking at the comments she gets.
Look, I agree that everyone intentionally trying to be famous, whether it be online or as like an actor or something, needs to be aware that this behavior is a reality they need to be prepared for. BUT that doesn’t mean we ignore the weirdos online and don’t sympathize with famous people. We should still discourage people from being rude or parasocial, and it’s normal to feel bad for humans going through shitty things, regardless of how much money they make related to that. Yes, she can stop posting, but that doesn’t excuse other people’s actions, and realistically some people would continue to be weird even if she did just vanish from the internet
Pretty weird of you to not pass unsolicited judgement on the physical attractiveness of strangers. Do you ever worry that this sort of antisocial behaviour will see you ostracised from society?
They even had a picture of a video game girl with some peach fuzz hair on parts of her face and they insisted that that made her a 'man'.
What utter shit. I take personal offense to that. I had a girlfriend with a very mild peach fuzz mustache and it is one of the many things that made her so cute.
I just want to say don't care. This doesn't make her a fraud. Great videos an advice and all around a super positive person. Liver king is something else. Not at all comparable.
Unpopular opinion: sucking dick is gay if you're a guy. Sucking man dick is gay. Sucking lady dick is gay. Sucking plastic dick is gay. Imagining sucking the platonic conception of a dick is gay.
Saying sucking a girls dick isn't gay is like saying a tomato is a fruit. Sure, you're technically correct. But you're still wrong.
Gonna go out on a limb and say you're looking at this all wrong. The guy is sucking a girl's dick because he wants to bring a hot female pleasure while he watches. He probably doesn't care that much how it's done. Conversely, if a man has a pussy and he eats it; to me that's a vastly more gay act.
It's semantics, which means it doesn't matter. If a tomato had feelings, and referring to it as a vegetable hurt those feelings, then you'd be wrong to call it a vegetable, even indirectly.
you have to understand gender to be a binary to believe this, and have to believe that the gender binary requires strict adherence in order to maintain a functioning society. this is, of course, a logical fallacy. acceptance of a gender spectrum, or even a rejection of gender as a social construct entirely, is the only sensible way.
I'm in that 60% and sometimes I wonder if it's really only 60%. 20% pure homo is definitely a stretch but 20% pure hetero as well. Also because so many people seem secretly curious but then also never end up trying some and then slowly grow back in that closet of 'I would never ...'. But then again, could also just be the bubble i live in.
I tried it all when I was younger and I'm definitely straight, I can say that from a place of knowledge and not because I have no clue. But I don't know what % of the "straight" population could say the same. I'm also aware that for some folks, the fact I experimented means I'm not straight, but I find that ludicrous, how can you confidently know you're straight if you never stepped over the fence?
fun fact thats only slightly related!
women bodybuilders will often get breast implants because the chest muscles and the breast aren't in the same location and it looks kinda weird if you have massive chest muscles, the implants even it out some
I feel like as you get older, you come into contact with things that make you uncomfortable, and people sort themselves into two groups. Some people lean in to the discomfort and want to know why, and some pull back and reject anything that makes them feel weird.
I have a strong feeling that the people that say that it is gay to feel attracted by a woman with "male" attributes will also say that it is gay to be attracted by a trans woman. Cognitive dissonance all around.
Yup. Definitely no cognitive dissonance about how a skinny/emotional man is unattractive to them, but the hyper-masculine beefcake is the male worthy of praise and attraction. Nothing gay about that.
I would say it is gay to be attracted to a trans woman. Is this really a spicy take? And for context I do not think it’s gay to be into a muscular woman…
I might be able to help clear this up for you. Whether or not the take is spicy depends on how transphobic or ignorant the parties involved are, so I'll start by addressing the facts.
If you are a woman, then it is gay to be attracted to a trans woman.
If you are a man, then it is not gay to be attracted to a trans woman.
Regardless of whether you or anyone else is a man, woman, gay, or otherwise, and of whatever physical bits are involved, you are not obligated to be attracted to anyone in particular.
If you are a straight man, and you do not visually perceive the trans woman as appearing consistent with your idea of what a woman should look like, then you are unlikely to be attracted to her.
If you are a straight man who is attracted to a trans woman and feel uncomfortable with or threatened by it, then you are transphobic. This doesn't necessarily mean you hate trans people, it can just mean that you fear being associated with them or having to think about them.
On spiciness:
If you are addressing people who are ignorant of all this, they will not know enough to consider your take spicy.
Your statement is too vague to determine whether your intent is transphobic or not. If the context of your take is that you do not consider trans women to be women, then your take will be spicy to people who are not transphobic, but it will not be spicy to people who are transphobic (or ignorant, as mentioned previously).
Hello, I've been getting reports. Let's have everyone lay off deciding who is gay or not. This is a meme discussion, not an expert consultation on who is and isn't gay.
If you are a man, then it is not gay to be attracted to a trans woman.
Well, sucking a trans woman's cock is not straight, either. I just slap a "queer" label on everything and call it done.
And who fucking cares if it IS gay. (ie if it feels gay to someone.) That's perfectly okay, too! We don't get to tell people how to be sexually attracted to their partner.
Ya, being with a trans man would be a lot less gay than a trans woman. Confusing, and probably worthy of the label queer but certainly not nearly as gay as actually sucking dick.
I agree being in a relationship with either of them would be confusing but the simple fact is I don’t like dick... I also don’t like pussy with a beard and chest hair, but I’m not in a place where I have to pick.
Well, I appreciate you for holding a civil discussion from a position of good faith nonetheless. This is quite rare on the internet and unique among the commenters replying to my original post.
You’re just out here throwing around generalizations about genders and people’s sexual identities, you should know better. These generalization's and stereotypes are the same feminist women have worked so hard to shirk off.
Your neo stereotype “that sucking dick ain’t gay if she identifies as a woman” is truly something to behold and reveals that you don’t really think about what you’re saying so much as repeat talking points from your ideology.
What is binary thinking a strong indicator for. Well, ChatGPT says: "Binary thinking is most prominently an indication of cognitive distortion, borderline personality disorder, low cognitive flexibility, trauma response, authoritarian ideology, and intolerance of ambiguity."
I'm not sure I'd even call this binary thinking. It's just a fundamental misunderstanding of how the world works.
If some straight guy gets a boner from looking at a trans woman and thinks that he's now gay or bi or something, he should go have sex with a man. I think he'll be able to figure out the difference very quickly.
So you disagree that I’m not allowed to be attracted to chicks with dicks? Are you that far gone? Imagine the brainrot required to tag in chatgpt into your discussion and quote it like some ancient philosopher. I bet you thought that was checkmate for me and this discussion?
I disagree with your pronouncement that it is definitively gay to suck a trans woman's cock. I also disagree with the prior pronouncement that it is straight.
I bet you thought...
No, I didn't, I thought it was funny. I thought it would be recognized as a cheap rhetorical tactic. Any other source I had used would have said something similar, and it would still have been a cheap shot.
The real point was just to point out that your thinking is painfully binary. It comes across as being super concerned with knowing where the line between gay and not gay is. Conclusion left to reader.
Ya kid I’m sorry but you don’t get to take the high road after using a chatgpt quote to take a cheap shot ad hominem during a discussion.
Your continual implications that I must be a repressed homosexual if I’m not into sucking every last drop of semen from a trans woman’s nut sac because she identifies as a woman and I’m an ally is …. wait for it… binary thinking.
I don't think it's gay or straight. Some bi people are exclusively interested in cis partner. Some bi people are pan. Some trans people are exclusively interested in other trans people. Someone maybe desires cis people and trans men. I think it's a failure of vocabulary, combined with a great deal of emotional charge and taboo.
Now consider my partner, who is non-binary. Traditional labels of sexuality risks misgendering when applied to non-binary people. I find the terms "androphile" and "gynophile" to be pretty useful, since they don't encode the gender of the person having the attraction, but even those are pretty limited.
However, there are fundamentally two kinds of sexuality: queer and repressed.
I don't think it's gay or straight. Some bi people are exclusively interested in cis partner. Some bi people are pan. Some trans people are exclusively interested in other trans people. Someone maybe desires cis people and trans men. I think it's a failure of vocabulary, combined with a great deal of emotional charge and taboo.
Agreed.
Now consider my partner, who is non-binary. Traditional labels of sexuality risks misgendering when applied to non-binary people. I find the terms "androphile" and "gynophile" to be pretty useful, since they don't encode the gender of the person having the attraction, but even those are pretty limited.
Sure. There’s a double edged sword to creating new words or terms or reaching further into jargon to communicate your identity. By going this route you end up only being able to communicate to others who understand your jargon, and conversely to your goals communicate less effectively to the average person.
However, there are fundamentally two kinds of sexuality: queer and repressed.
I'm straight as an arrow. Masculine. Dominant. Horny as hell.
Would run the best game I ever gamed on her. Jacked girls are sexy as fuck... to me.
My fetish is giving the girls I date lifting programs and punishing them if they don't stick to them to stay sexy for me. Abs, ass, and some wide shoulders to show off a thin waist? Yes please!
I'm sure she's a lovely person and someone's idea of heaven, it looks like maybe yours.
This just shows that just because someone is straight, it doesn't mean they find everyone sexually attractive. I mean, I objectively can see that she is attractive based on a mental checklist of things people generally find attractive, I just... have no draw to her in that way.
I agree. Only men have muscles. Women only possess bones. Ergo the only straight people on the planet are male necromancers or wizards and sorcerers with 5th level spell slots.
Anon was refused by a muscle mommy and is now on a holy incel crusade against them.
Or was pegged by one and liked it a bit too much
Pro tip: before getting yourself pegged make sure to make it clear you want her to be gentle with you, so you don't risk having to question your sexuality.
If being attracted to buff women makes you gay, then gender is not as simple as this twitter gremlin probably believes it to be. But they probably don't want to think about that too much.
"Not 'normal' = gay". That's all they consider.
Is this a new metric mental gymnastics, like it's not gay if you're on top, or if you are the giver?
As we (jokingly) say in German: „Nur der Gefickte ist schwul.“ ["Only the one getting fucked is gay."]
That's a surprisingly common line of reasoning actually.
I mean that particular piece of homophobia has been around since antiquity
I have a friend that says having muscles makes women too masculine. He was not amused when I asked him if that also means he is feminine because he doesn't have any muscle (I don't actually believe either is the case, just wanted to point out his hypocrisy)
"Men cannot become women, but muscular women are men." 😅
Yeah, I don't get what's wrong with wanting a muscular physique.
Not if you keep your socks on
This is a critical loophole that few fellas use to keep themselves free of gayness.
All the
homieslesbians agree.https://youtu.be/XnqpfnXObkA?t=2m41s
So by this logic, it would be straight for him to fuck femboys? Sounds gay.
What's more manly than a cock? Two cocks, that's what!!
Nahh. It's totally a straight thing to do :3
Hey, if I'm straight and a femboy makes me hard then she's a girl.
fellas, is it gay for a man to find a woman hot?
According to xitter, if the woman is very muscular, then yes.
I don't quite understand why though.
right wing politics promotes rigid gender norms
including that only men should be muscular
so muscular women are masculine
and men attracted to a masculine person are gay
nevermind that these are the same people who want to rigidly define women by their gametes, chromosomes, or other biological characteristics (not how buff they are, or how masculine they present)
or that these are the same people who came up with the idea that everyone is straight to begin with ("gay" being a sinful behavior, nobody being born gay)
Xitter told me dating someone with XXY chomosomes is 50% gay and just one X chomosome would be Schrodinger's gay
(/s for the tone deaf)
’nuff said
Dear alpha,
I tell you what to like and how to make love. If you disobey, you're an omega and do not deserve affection.
I'm starting to think "alpha" is some kind of closeted dude psyop
Well, the original idea is based on the behavior wolves that are (strictly) kept in captivity; that porn writers yoinked into their fanfics… Raise your hands if you think thats applicable on you, I won’t be able to see it, but your surroundings should know that you are iffy!
The original original idea is based on a study about those wolves in captivity that was never peer reviewed/reproduced and was generally confirmed to be absolutely bogus bullshit.
…the book was very much so peer reviewed even at its publishment, the issue was: -that ‘the being kept in captivity’ was not underlined to the point and via words where layman could understand universally/ be in the point of deniability for spreading nonsense -was a great fucking book, loads of people read it before the author could actually withdrew it (he immediately started pleading with the publisher once it surfaced) and make it more explicit
Thanks for the explanation, always assumed it hadn't been peer reviewed because that requires replication of the experiment most often.
It should, but it does not always require that, at least for some soft sciences. In my very niche field (German grammar and German language instruction) studies are almost never reproduced as part of the peer review process, though it is totally normal for people to publish new papers that are essentially reproductions of existing studies.
No, the peers do not necessarily have to spend a decade to repeat the study as there is no singular thesis, nor any experiment… They just look it over while playing with their existent or non-existent beards and if its their speciality then give their names that ‘yes, this checks out’
Oh I know, I'm just making mock of dudes who are being hella weird
Or.. yiffy?
Not necessarily, a lot of straight guys have insecurities. It's not exclusive to LGBTQ+
Gotta love it when losers assume women aren’t on the internet. As a woman, OP is absolutely right - that muscle mommy can turn me gay whenever she wants.
Sounds like you're already gay.
Nah, just half gay. But who knows what the future can hold.
Sounds like it's more likely to be men like OOP who turn you gay then
Ironically, yes. If all men were like him, I'd have gone full gay long ago.
lesbian here, hhholy shit
Wait if you think she's hot, does that make you gay, but that makes you straight. But if you're straight and you think she's hot then that makes you gay.
It's confusing.
Here's a trick solve your confusion: if you could choose what's in those pants, how long would it take you to make a decide: if you instantly know you want what's in your own pants youre most likely gay, if you know instantly you want exactly what's not in your own pants you're most likely straight, if you need a moment before you know you're likely not straight nor gay. All the other reasons you can think of aren't about sexuality as in what gender do you like but are about sexuality as in what kind of person you want to be with. But it might also be a little more complicated than this.
You were the target of LeanBeefPatty's psyop, and it worked.
Cis straight here, same
Yepppp
Look if that makes me gay then sure, I'll be gay
These people are so strange. We live in this big, complex world filled with variation, and they are like: "No! Everything must be only one way!"
Appreciating the spectrum of human experience is GAY
Realizing that emotions aren’t and can never be binary is HOMO STUFF
The complexity is too cognitively taxing so instead of just accepting that there will be people you don't understand, they want to force everything to a strict mold they can easily comprehend, without needing to confront contradictions inherent to the human condition. Letting go of control and accepting the world is far beyond your capacity to fathom is a scary thing. But what is life but the act of letting go?
No, they want only two! They can't handle it if everyone is the same, or if there is a rainbow of ways. To them, it must be two, no more or less! It must be binary!
Edit: This is a very boring grey lenses to view our species. Our closest relatives is bonobos....
It is however a psyop to make women gay
Is it working @[email protected]?
Bros jealous of her gains.
I know I am.
Just want to acknowledge that she's put a heap of effort into that body and if I was lucky enough for her to want to snap me in half then old mate can call me fast if he wants.
Leanbeefpatty is also actually natty, which I think is why I still find her hella attractive despite the fact that she could probably snap me like a twig.
Steroids are effective, but I personally don't usually like what they create.
Death by Snu Snu
Conservatives truly are the most bitch-made motherfuckers in existence.
For being so proud of being straight they seem very insecure about their gender and sexuality and love homoerotic media.
It's almost like they're repressed
Republican Convention and Grindr spikes.
Name a more iconic duo
It's NOT Gay if he Wears "makeup" and "a wigs" and LOOKS like a Girl while MY Penis is INSIDE his Butthole! THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER!
signed
DONAKD J. TRUNP
DO NAKED. TURNIP.
If reecethebrah sees a muscular woman, and the first thought he has is "THIS IS A PSYOP TO TURN MEN GAY," then maybe he's telling us more about how the inside of his head works than about the secret homosexual / female body building conspiracy that has been hiding in plain sight this entire time.
I reckon the tattoo isn't helping. Clearly if you're part of a conspiracy you would have an Illuminati tattoo, it's just required.
She's Lean Beef Patty if you wanna know.
People who care about what is supposed to be 'gay' can be disregarded entirely.
Uuuh sorry. I was distracted. What's this meme about?
I think it's an optical illusion... if you stare at it long enough you may start to see lines of text above and below the image!
I literally am incapable of forming opinions about something without consulting manosphere chuds opinion about whether or not it is gay. is that gay?
There's no red lines. I think its OK
According to Andrew tate you can just scoot it to the side. Don't think that's how it works tho.....
Fellas, is it gay to be attracted to women?
Yes, very much so.
Attraction itself is gay, you are supposed to neglect your wife and children until they poison you like God intended.
yes
Dude, if the first thing you think of when you see a muscular/athletic woman is "man" then that says faaaar more about you than it does anyone else 😂
Pattie is literally amazing. Anyone would be happy just to know her
I feel so sorry for Patty. She has the unfortunate mix of muscle, attractiveness, nerdiness and popularity that creates a following of neckbeardy guys and parasocial girls.
Reading some of the comments on her recent videos with the new bf makes me put down the phone, walk outside and sit in the sun.
I'm sure the comments are atrocious. But I certainly dont feel bad for her. Fame is a conscious descision that one must maintain. She could simply stop posting today, and quietly delete all her social media over the next year or so, and her notariety would all but disappear. She is famous, making bank, and is a sex icon - as far as hedonistic indulgence goes, I'd say she's doing pretty alright!
And if she has any sense at all (and I believe she does), she'll have long ago gotten off social media herself and handed everything over to a social media manager. She does a few photoshoots per year, plus a few fanservice videos when her manager tells her it would do her good, and then she goes off and goes clinkity clankity in the gym followed by playing dnd or whatever she's into, never even looking at the comments she gets.
Look, I agree that everyone intentionally trying to be famous, whether it be online or as like an actor or something, needs to be aware that this behavior is a reality they need to be prepared for. BUT that doesn’t mean we ignore the weirdos online and don’t sympathize with famous people. We should still discourage people from being rude or parasocial, and it’s normal to feel bad for humans going through shitty things, regardless of how much money they make related to that. Yes, she can stop posting, but that doesn’t excuse other people’s actions, and realistically some people would continue to be weird even if she did just vanish from the internet
Let me bask in the glow of atom, thank you very much.
Anyone willing to run with a punny handle like "Lean Beef Patty", with that physique, is a-okay in my book.
Lean Beef Patty 💪
My queen!
The only reason you would want a woman to be weak, is if you're planning on physically overpowering her. Just saying.
Also... Nice.
I'd like to consensually test with her which one of us is overpowering the other.
Not gonna happen in a million years, but a man can dream.
I don't care if it's gay or straight, it's not attractive to me personally, so I just avoid it and move on. 🤷
Pretty weird of you to not pass unsolicited judgement on the physical attractiveness of strangers. Do you ever worry that this sort of antisocial behaviour will see you ostracised from society?
It's a post open for comment. In what world is that unsolicited?
Lighten up
Uhhh sarcasm detector broken?
Basically yeah, I didn't realize where I was
Okay is that a joke about my weight? I'm so fucking done.
100% you're fat af
Done eating? Thank god
The right attitude! I'll never understand why anyone is bothered by a complete strangers appearance.
It's because they associate strength and domination purely with masculinity, a real woman is petite and fragile in their eyes.
Correct, just the muscle mommy stereotype is strong and domineering.
And if you've watched any of her content, you'd know her character is probably the farthest thing from dominant.
So by that logic, twinks are not gay?
No, they are. Everything that lies outside of my narrow-minded and ignorant view of how attraction should work is bad and you should be ashamed!
They even had a picture of a video game girl with some peach fuzz hair on parts of her face and they insisted that that made her a 'man'.
What utter shit. I take personal offense to that. I had a girlfriend with a very mild peach fuzz mustache and it is one of the many things that made her so cute.
https://youtu.be/PbBzhqJK3bg
Lean Beef Patty can throw me around like Cammy or R. Mika.
I used to like her but she a fraud.
Oh? Like roids?
Ya, she claims to natty (natural) but she refuses to take a piss test. Basically female liver king
What a wild thing to say.
Okok, that one was unfair. He cray cray.
I just want to say don't care. This doesn't make her a fraud. Great videos an advice and all around a super positive person. Liver king is something else. Not at all comparable.
comedy gold
I know the first thing I think of when I see a sexy muscular woman is that I would like to suck her dick. 🙄
I mean, even that's not gay.
Unpopular opinion: sucking dick is gay if you're a guy. Sucking man dick is gay. Sucking lady dick is gay. Sucking plastic dick is gay. Imagining sucking the platonic conception of a dick is gay.
Saying sucking a girls dick isn't gay is like saying a tomato is a fruit. Sure, you're technically correct. But you're still wrong.
Gonna go out on a limb and say you're looking at this all wrong. The guy is sucking a girl's dick because he wants to bring a hot female pleasure while he watches. He probably doesn't care that much how it's done. Conversely, if a man has a pussy and he eats it; to me that's a vastly more gay act.
It's semantics, which means it doesn't matter. If a tomato had feelings, and referring to it as a vegetable hurt those feelings, then you'd be wrong to call it a vegetable, even indirectly.
Maybe come out of the closet; it would probably make you a much better person.
I don't care what you think.
Man here, I want her to pat me on the head and tell me it'll be okay.
If that's gay, slap my ass and call me homo, doesn't change what I know what I am.
I am gay for women.
Also I'm bi, so I don't care about gender too much.
Hmmm. Is this dude threatened by her physique?
I, personally, don't find her particularly attractive. But the muscles are damn impressive.
How the fuck would this be a psyop for homosexuality?
you have to understand gender to be a binary to believe this, and have to believe that the gender binary requires strict adherence in order to maintain a functioning society. this is, of course, a logical fallacy. acceptance of a gender spectrum, or even a rejection of gender as a social construct entirely, is the only sensible way.
I would die for lean beef pattie
I am attracted to both muscular women like that and fem/petite guys. I must be super gay.
I'm in that 60% and sometimes I wonder if it's really only 60%. 20% pure homo is definitely a stretch but 20% pure hetero as well. Also because so many people seem secretly curious but then also never end up trying some and then slowly grow back in that closet of 'I would never ...'. But then again, could also just be the bubble i live in.
I tried it all when I was younger and I'm definitely straight, I can say that from a place of knowledge and not because I have no clue. But I don't know what % of the "straight" population could say the same. I'm also aware that for some folks, the fact I experimented means I'm not straight, but I find that ludicrous, how can you confidently know you're straight if you never stepped over the fence?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Reminds me of the old "Would you rather have sex with a man with a vagina, or a beautiful woman with a penis?" Would be a heck of a threesome.
fun fact thats only slightly related!
women bodybuilders will often get breast implants because the chest muscles and the breast aren't in the same location and it looks kinda weird if you have massive chest muscles, the implants even it out some
Nothing as manly as gay sex though.
100% manly men
Don't care(Bi). Just crush my skull already.
I feel like as you get older, you come into contact with things that make you uncomfortable, and people sort themselves into two groups. Some people lean in to the discomfort and want to know why, and some pull back and reject anything that makes them feel weird.
As a guy, I kinda like women with bit of muscle on the back.
Same. Did these people not play Street Fighter growing up? If Cammy waking the mighty tiger behind my fly is gay then I’ll see you at Pride.
I like women who look like they can take care of themselves, I find the damsel in distress stereotype annoying.
Well fellas, looks like I'm gay 🥵
BTW if any of you look like this and are single hmu.
I have a strong feeling that the people that say that it is gay to feel attracted by a woman with "male" attributes will also say that it is gay to be attracted by a trans woman. Cognitive dissonance all around.
Yup. Definitely no cognitive dissonance about how a skinny/emotional man is unattractive to them, but the hyper-masculine beefcake is the male worthy of praise and attraction. Nothing gay about that.
I would say it is gay to be attracted to a trans woman. Is this really a spicy take? And for context I do not think it’s gay to be into a muscular woman…
I might be able to help clear this up for you. Whether or not the take is spicy depends on how transphobic or ignorant the parties involved are, so I'll start by addressing the facts.
If you are a woman, then it is gay to be attracted to a trans woman.
If you are a man, then it is not gay to be attracted to a trans woman.
Regardless of whether you or anyone else is a man, woman, gay, or otherwise, and of whatever physical bits are involved, you are not obligated to be attracted to anyone in particular.
If you are a straight man, and you do not visually perceive the trans woman as appearing consistent with your idea of what a woman should look like, then you are unlikely to be attracted to her.
If you are a straight man who is attracted to a trans woman and feel uncomfortable with or threatened by it, then you are transphobic. This doesn't necessarily mean you hate trans people, it can just mean that you fear being associated with them or having to think about them.
On spiciness:
Hello, I've been getting reports. Let's have everyone lay off deciding who is gay or not. This is a meme discussion, not an expert consultation on who is and isn't gay.
Well, sucking a trans woman's cock is not straight, either. I just slap a "queer" label on everything and call it done.
And who fucking cares if it IS gay. (ie if it feels gay to someone.) That's perfectly okay, too! We don't get to tell people how to be sexually attracted to their partner.
Settle down and see above.
Ya, being with a trans man would be a lot less gay than a trans woman. Confusing, and probably worthy of the label queer but certainly not nearly as gay as actually sucking dick.
I agree being in a relationship with either of them would be confusing but the simple fact is I don’t like dick... I also don’t like pussy with a beard and chest hair, but I’m not in a place where I have to pick.
Well, I appreciate you for holding a civil discussion from a position of good faith nonetheless. This is quite rare on the internet and unique among the commenters replying to my original post.
Trans women are women. A man being attracted to a woman is...not gay. They only thing that's gay is being attracted to men.
Not muscular women, not short-haired women, not trans women. Men. M.E.N.
Trans women have dicks. Enjoying dick is a strong indicator you’re gay.
Gay men aren't attracted to trans women. Straight men are.
You’re just out here throwing around generalizations about genders and people’s sexual identities, you should know better. These generalization's and stereotypes are the same feminist women have worked so hard to shirk off.
Your neo stereotype “that sucking dick ain’t gay if she identifies as a woman” is truly something to behold and reveals that you don’t really think about what you’re saying so much as repeat talking points from your ideology.
What is binary thinking a strong indicator for. Well, ChatGPT says: "Binary thinking is most prominently an indication of cognitive distortion, borderline personality disorder, low cognitive flexibility, trauma response, authoritarian ideology, and intolerance of ambiguity."
I'm not sure I'd even call this binary thinking. It's just a fundamental misunderstanding of how the world works.
If some straight guy gets a boner from looking at a trans woman and thinks that he's now gay or bi or something, he should go have sex with a man. I think he'll be able to figure out the difference very quickly.
And yet, he's less straight than he previously imagined he was. You are taking a binary perspective that doesn't allow that.
How so?
So you disagree that I’m not allowed to be attracted to chicks with dicks? Are you that far gone? Imagine the brainrot required to tag in chatgpt into your discussion and quote it like some ancient philosopher. I bet you thought that was checkmate for me and this discussion?
I disagree with your pronouncement that it is definitively gay to suck a trans woman's cock. I also disagree with the prior pronouncement that it is straight.
No, I didn't, I thought it was funny. I thought it would be recognized as a cheap rhetorical tactic. Any other source I had used would have said something similar, and it would still have been a cheap shot.
The real point was just to point out that your thinking is painfully binary. It comes across as being super concerned with knowing where the line between gay and not gay is. Conclusion left to reader.
Ya kid I’m sorry but you don’t get to take the high road after using a chatgpt quote to take a cheap shot ad hominem during a discussion.
Your continual implications that I must be a repressed homosexual if I’m not into sucking every last drop of semen from a trans woman’s nut sac because she identifies as a woman and I’m an ally is …. wait for it… binary thinking.
I don't think it's gay or straight. Some bi people are exclusively interested in cis partner. Some bi people are pan. Some trans people are exclusively interested in other trans people. Someone maybe desires cis people and trans men. I think it's a failure of vocabulary, combined with a great deal of emotional charge and taboo.
Now consider my partner, who is non-binary. Traditional labels of sexuality risks misgendering when applied to non-binary people. I find the terms "androphile" and "gynophile" to be pretty useful, since they don't encode the gender of the person having the attraction, but even those are pretty limited.
However, there are fundamentally two kinds of sexuality: queer and repressed.
Agreed.
Sure. There’s a double edged sword to creating new words or terms or reaching further into jargon to communicate your identity. By going this route you end up only being able to communicate to others who understand your jargon, and conversely to your goals communicate less effectively to the average person.
What does this mean?
I would like her to crack my head open like a watermelon.
I love the kind of woman that will actually just kill me
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Edit: Invidious link (cause I'm dummy)
You get it.
Guess I'm gay 🤷
No this is just a scheme to make fragile masculinities explode.
Ive heard its only gay if the balls touch. Fine by me. Every man can benefit from a good muscle mommy
I've heard it's not gay in a three way either.
I thought it was dick.
She's hot
As someone getting back into thr gym after gaining a lot of weight during covid I would be glad to have her be my gym buddy.
If you've never been with a muscle mommy you are missing out.
That's more like muscle sister smh my head
Long sleeved crop top.
yeah we should have thought about this before
I don't know why it weirded me out. It's just a sideways cardigan, blazer, zip up hoodie.
lean beef is an absolute angel. What a fucking nerd
Have to admit this is pretty funny.
Get the fuck out of the closet already!
I mean, im a guy, im kinda gay, and omg muscle mommy 😍
Maybe there's something to this 🤔
Its a representation of both my fear and desire for snu snu.
I'm not really into muscle mommies as i prefer them more feminine, but this one^1^ sure hits a balance...
^1^NSFW
Good lord. Fit + lingerie is a killer mix.
Translation:
“What do we have here? Somebody other than a straight white male working hard at something? Gaaaaaaay!”
Straight white male here with miserable conservative family members who can’t handle the diversity in humanity.
If being a man and being attracted to a good looking woman makes me gay, then I don't understand the logic, but apparently I am gay?
(A man) Being attracted to women is so gay.
Im gay for Rhea Ripley
who isnt?
Ellen Ripley's okay too.
Can confirm. I'm straight and not the least bit attracted to her. This completely checks out.
I'm straight as an arrow. Masculine. Dominant. Horny as hell.
Would run the best game I ever gamed on her. Jacked girls are sexy as fuck... to me.
My fetish is giving the girls I date lifting programs and punishing them if they don't stick to them to stay sexy for me. Abs, ass, and some wide shoulders to show off a thin waist? Yes please!
I'm sure she's a lovely person and someone's idea of heaven, it looks like maybe yours.
This just shows that just because someone is straight, it doesn't mean they find everyone sexually attractive. I mean, I objectively can see that she is attractive based on a mental checklist of things people generally find attractive, I just... have no draw to her in that way.
Well, it's definitely making me gay. 🏳️🌈
He doesn't know what gay is, yet he says it's gay! I like muscular women! I'm all in!
It's not gay if you say no hetero
It worked.
Welp I'm gay. I know im bi at the very least. I'll let my gf top me, its quite fun. Buff chick all day.
If you like muscles I guess, I know some people do.
Well to be fair, It's at least a little gay.
I agree. Only men have muscles. Women only possess bones. Ergo the only straight people on the planet are male necromancers or wizards and sorcerers with 5th level spell slots.
Umm, no. It's 'chick who could have a dick' or 'girl who can kick your ass' or it's 'strap on Sally'
More for the rest of us. Hold tight to those false associations plz.
There is a certain point where the woman is taking too much testosterone and starting to look like a man.
I'm always curious to see what traits get flagged as "manly". Everything from clothing styles to accent to posture seems to qualify.
You wouldn't even know men and women are the same species, the way some people describe them.
Wat
And who are you?