I feel the opposite. I want to hate him so badly, but he's a good actor. Like I was absolutely furious about his casting in Interview with a Vampire, then he killed it, was gaunt and vampire as hell. He is not good looking to me and seems a shit person, but my goodness he can act.
That, and pretty much every movie he’s in these days are just an ego based adrenalin rush designed by and for himself. All the parts he plays just come off as “Tom Cruise half heartedly pretending to be X”.
I feel that's old enough not to be in the Tom Cruise produced issue area. In the 2000s, he was in War of the worlds, Collateral, The Last Samurai and even showed he still had range in Magnolia, Vanilla Sky and even Tropic Thunder. It wasn't quite the same as the 90s where he was cast in a huge range of great roles, and it definitely became less common over the 00s.
I'd say from 2010 onwards, he's stared in 0 films that don't feel warped to be an advert for his specific style of masculinity. Even if one was good, Edge of Tomorrow, it's still a Tom Cruise movie.
He turned his back on his bandmate after said bandmate made a joke about wishing Trump got assassinated, and he condemned palestine for standing up to their oppressors. He's a shitlib at best
To be fair, the only Palestine comments I've seen were from immediately after Oct 7, when that was a fairly reasonable take.
Still though, total sellout. Tenacious D defined my adolescence and it's really disheartening to watch JB heel turn after tasting that Kung Fu Panda money.
I agree about Palestine, where there was a huge, disheartening cry from America in October - December 2023, when the general attitude was that this was all a terrorist attack, and not the beginning of a genocide. I am definitely wary of celebrities who made pro Israel statements then, but I feel many felt expected to, or were just grossly misinformed.
He does sort of just suck though. I feel the internet's perception of his soured so fast in the 2020s, from beloved to loathed, and all he did was keep doing what he always does, just with a tiny amount more selling out, which was enough to snowball the hate.
2005 JBles would call 2025 JB a sellout, no question. The man who raged against City Hall for 9 minutes. I always assumed "as long as there's a record deal we'll always be friends" was more tongue in cheek.
We’re ahead of the curve on this one. I’ve found him annoying for decades, and now it turns out he’s kinda a shitty person, too. It always annoyed me that he was Reddit’s darling.
He's the guy that can be brilliantly funny about 1% of the time, but that 1% is completely canceled-out by the 99% of other material, which is him just randomly throwing shit at the wall. He's truly awful and I dread seeing him.
I honestly don’t enjoy his sense of humor, he is not too awful in serious roles but still don’t go out of my way to watch. I could say the same for Seth Rogen, his laugh just annoys me to no end.
It’s mostly SNL humour, which imo is not the best as it kind of relies on being self aware that you’re in a comedy. It’s not for everyone so I can see why you think that.
I do like that sense of humor, which is why I don’t like Will Ferrell. He’s always trying to be Chevy Chase but with out the timing r talent at pratfalls
I get this. I was listening to a podcast, Conan O'Brien's I think, where Will Ferrell came up and they were talking about how he's typically a pretty straightforward and serious kind of person off camera.
He turns it on for the camera but it's not who he is in real life. There's nothing wrong with it per se but it made him seem a lot more disingenuous to me.
I think a lot of comedians are this way, and it makes sense. Most of us have a "work persona" that is not exactly the same as what we would consider our "real" personality.
For a more genuine version Will Ferrell, and just a hell of a story of friendship and overcoming challenges, I heartily recommend the documentary Will & Harper.
This is the one I'm most in line with ... I enjoyed him in the first Guardians movie the first time I watched it, but having seen more of his acting I think that was either dumb luck or great directing.
I actively avoid watching stuff with him in now, including the first Guardians movie. He gives off a bad vibe to me.
The internet made him his darling and then turned on him pretty quickly, a similar thing to what most female stars face, such as Jennifer Lawrence hugely had to deal with in the 2010s. Not that I'm fond of the guy, but this his internet attitude stinks and I think has coloured his image since. However:
He's had a really strange rise to fame. He was in Parks and Rec as the lovable goofball type, then the US army literally put him in Zero Dark Thirty (a film with unbelievable rewriting and military control) to be a recruiting tool, "Even Andy from Parks and Rec can Kill Bin Laden." Even though he was put on the map by nationalist military propaganda, I don't blame him for that.
He also attends a church (Zoe Church) which was modelled of an openly homophobic church (Hillsong), and founded by a former pastor of the homophobic church, although this church specifically has no open statement on LGBTQ+ people. This church and it's pastor are absolutely suspiciously absent on this stance, to the point many assume it's homophobic and transphobic but in LA and not wanting the backlash, particularly as the pastor has funded a Christian film, The heart of Man, that has an openly homophobic messages.
There was also a controversy with his wife and ex-wife that I think was more of a fuck up than anything else. He parted with his first wife who he'd been with since before his fame, not long after she had a baby that was born premature. He then married again and announced his gratitude for a healthy child. Obviously people didn't like this, but I don't think he meant it how it comes across. People also feel he showed disloyalty to his first wife in leaving her once famous, but even if fame did change him, that's still a forgivable reason for parting ways with someone.
Although I don't avoid movies with Pratt, I feel he wants to be funny like Robin Williams, and a hero like Harrison Ford, without the charm or wit to come close to either. What we're left with is a bland, typecast actor who feels he'd abandon any tolerance and compassion in his image if it stopped being in vogue, but maybe we just want to see him fall from grace.
He's the only actor I can think of I actively boycott other than Gal Godot. Aside from his violent racism and American nationalism which is all well documented, I just absolutely loathe the type of character he likes to play; the macho snarky asshole who feels like he got kicked out of basic training and makes being a veteran his whole personality.
There's few archetypes I hate more than the "former soldier who could kill a man, harbouring some deep unnerving instinct", or the "American in a truck who loves the flag and is just a hard working guy", and somehow he always plays and glamorises both, despite not actually being either.
Jared Leto, Tom Cruise. Here on Lemmy they might not be as loved as in the general population, but these pieces of shit posing as human beings are definitely loved more than they should.
I think the world turned a bit on Leto after his rat-mailing phase while playing the joker. But I'd say he probably still doesn't engender as much antipathy as he should in the general populace.
Can't argue with Tom Cruise, though. Admittedly he seems like a nice guy, but the whole funding America's biggest and most dangerous cult definitely hampers that.
He wanted the weird image. He implied he was intending to start some sort of harem cult a few years back, which was really a hippie holiday for millionaire women in a very LA way. He absolutely played up his image as a self obsessed creep looking to be worshipped to sell this experience. I honestly feel everything kinda gross about how Jared Leto feels is marketing, although God knows why, as it must hurt his career.
This radical dualism is partly an American thing. Here on the other side of the pond, most people believe (IMO) that one can be simultaneously a "piece of shit posing as a human being" and a great actor.
I mostly agree with this, but apparently Leto is a giant worm was raping or assaulting people or something. While I do think "cancel culture" or whatever is dumb and believe separating art from the artists is an ok thing to do as a consumer, blacklisting someone from the industry for rape/SA is just about the only time I'm in full agreeance with "canceling." Can't be having that type of shit, idec if a Trump supporting actor gets work tbh but assault is a step too far. Liking things he was in prior is one thing, continuing to make workplaces unsafe by employing him is another.
As for consumers, I think they should be free to watch what they want and boycott what they want with impunity and no judgement (besides maybe taste lol), especially if they pirate. Still liking a thing you grew up loving even after something shady comes out does not mean you support the shady thing, especially if you're not literally supporting them monetarily.
(I also fucking hate Thirty Suckents to Mars and he should be punished for making bad music.)
TC afaik isn't dangerous in the same sense, he's just a face of a cult. Miscavige is the really dangerous one there and he should probably be shot, but TC just makes cheesy movies and has sex with fish. As such I don't think there'd be a problem employing him the same as it is for Leto, but also I'm personally not watching his garbage, whether you do or not should be left to you (and I won't judge, other than maybe your taste in movies! Lol)
WWE really pushed many stars to become hollywood actors. bautista is one that actually tries as an actor, dwayne is a movie star attention seeker, also dwayne apparently is the "ellen degeneres" of behind the scenes too.
Pretty much every comic who guested as one of Dr. Katz's patients can count that appearance among their best work. I loved that show so much, and not enough people know about it anymore.
That's because they were all doing their best comic routines against another excellent comic. They could tweak the timing and the delivery and do all their best stuff as good as it can be done to the best possible audience. The premise was perfect for it.
I suppose comics have done that. Like Seinfeld worked bits into the show, especially in the early seasons. But that was all Jerry's stand up. Roseanne was the same early on, many of the sitcom premises and monologues were from Barr's stand up routines. But it was never like weekly guests got an opportunity to film and edit a tight five. I honestly can't think of another movie or show that did it, except maybe talk shows? But then it's still a performance in front of an audience. You can't workshop a line or a pause during the Late Show, unless it's a satirical talk show like Between Two Ferns or Eric Andre.
pratt, rob machlenny, despite him making isaip, hes really super pretentious iRL which also translated to his show. watched his interviews has given over the pandemic and beond, and hes been collaborating with questionable people, luke ryan reynold and mannings, in order to mooch of people in hollywood.
Leonardo DiCaprio. I get huge, cringy 'imposter syndrome' vibes from him, like he knows he shouldn't be doing this for a living but soldiers on regardless. I've never bought into a single one of his performances. He always seems like he's 'acting', and never really embodies the characters or reacts 'in the moment'. It's all a poor imitation of what he has seen other actors do.
I hate that he became Scorsese's new De Niro, and so when I hear of a new Scorsese film I get excited and then immediately lose interest knowing that DiCaprio is probably gonna be leading it. Literally every film he has done would have been better with a different actor.
Also Nicolas Cage. I get the memey antifan sort of thing that bolsters his career, but let's be honest, there's no hint of talent in the man. He has ruined what might have been great films. Bringing Out the Dead could have been a legit classic if not for his involvement.
Leonardo DiCaprio. I get huge, cringy ‘imposter syndrome’ vibes from him
Exact opposite feelings here, and I generally have a hard time suspending disbelief. I remember seeing The Basketball Diaries (this was before Titanic) and being blown away by his acting. I'd say this is a rare example of an actor being held back by good looks. A lot of folks have just not wanted to admit that this particular heartthrob has genuine talent. To contrast with, for example, Keanu, or Clooney.
Oh jeez I'm sorry dude it's ok here's a point up or whatever we call it here. For what it's worth I remember I did enjoy this one movie where he plays these twin writers or something. And that was double Cage right there
I’ve never bought into a single one of his performances. He always seems like he’s ‘acting’, and never really embodies the characters or reacts ‘in the moment’. It’s all a poor imitation of what he has seen other actors do.
Yes! exactly. You just summed up my thinking better than I could.
He always seems like he's 'acting', and never really embodies the characters or reacts 'in the moment'. It's all a poor imitation of what he has seen other actors do.
Very good explanation, thank you!!
Finally I can explain with words why I hate the front side of his head so much.
Jack Black. I think it was around the time he started up his Jablinksy crap on Youtube. There were tons of "organic posts" on reddit about it and it just didn't sit right with me. Ever since I can't stand him.
No, he pretends to be but deep down he cares more about justice.
Or at least that’s the version I’m used to from Christian Bale’s Batman and the games.
In the dark knight trilogy, Bruce intentionally lives on the streets for a few years and only goes back to use his money to fight injustice.
The whole point of Batman is a rich guy who has a very strong moral compass cause his parents were murdered. It’s not suppose to be realistic, it’s a fantasy.
I most loved how Kevin Conroy's Batman from the Animated Series portrayed this aspect of the character. Conroy did measurably different voices for Batman and Bruce which made it completely clear that Bruce was the false persona being put on for appearances while Batman was the real voice and personality, and also sold how good Batman was at pretending to be Bruce when needed. Conroy's Batman isn't just a ninja genius detective, he's also a good actor, and to portray that as well as he did Conroy had to be an awesome actor.
Conroy's Bruce Wayne is as close to his "normal" speaking voice as I've ever heard, but he makes it sound like an affect in ways that are hard to describe. He was truly a great one.
People liked Batfleck because he was the closest to comic Batman looks-wise. Tall, physically imposing, square jaw, rugged, etc. He was also the best part of the Snyder movies and that’s a low bar. His version was also an older, disillusioned Bruce/Batman which is why he was more prick-ish.
I dont recall everyone liking that he was chosen as Batman, in fact as I recall most people were like "Ben Affleck?! That guy from Mallrats and Gigli?"
I mean, the acting wasn't terrible, but the writing was fucking atrocious. I think Ben could have done a stellar job if it had been literally any other production team behind it.
I agree, I think he could have pulled off the same persona written for both Bale and Patterson's batmen. He's also played a lot of assholes, and I'm not sure how much that just develops into a feeling that gets under your skin.
She's very typecast, but she can act. If she actually got a role where she could show strong emotion, I think she could rise to it well. She's good in Challengers and great in Euphoria.
I'm very impressed with Lemmy here for not doing what Reddit would have and naming a long list of women. That being said, if I didn't feel a moral obligation to boycott Gal Godot, she is so talentless that she hasn't made anyone else's list because it's such a low hanging fruit.
she was stiff in WW too, but it worked because the whole side plot was that she's never met human beings and doesn't know how to interact with them. also she's like a demigod so being devoid of emotions doesn't look that weird on a character like that. they played to their strengths.
most issues with movies about acting are actually issues about casting. i love Keanu, but he's also stiff. but that worked perfectly his best roles: johnny mnemonic, constantine and of course neo. even john wick worked mostly because he's built up for the first half of the movie as a mythical, inhuman force of nature.
so yeah for that particular rendition of wonder woman, great choice: she looks like a demigod; she acts like she's never seen a human before. perfect.
for anything else, please kill me so i don't have to suffer through this scene.
At least on Detective Pikachu he tried doing something different, but was told "no, we dont want acting, we want Ryan Reynolds", so it might be more of a typecasting problem.
Getting married at a historic plantation in the South is like getting married at a former concentration camp. It's spitting on the graves of those who were tortured there.
This was my hometown's team. It's super strange having it put on the map, where basically everybody knows this story, and before then nothing at all.
It's absolutely just a random investment in a potentially very lucrative industry. 21st century football is massively swayed by who can spend the most money, especially below the very top level where the money becomes too ridiculous. Wrexham had the oldest active ground in the UK and the ground itself is particularly goodnfkr the level of play. Wrexham had dropped from 3rd division to like 5th, near 6th when he bought it (I think). But Wrexham as a city isn't small, it's the largest population centre in North Wales, and before it gained city status in 2022, was a larger town than many of the cities near it. All it really needed to do well was investment, where it had the facilities to be tenfold more successful if anybody actually paid for it, it's the same for probably a dozen other teams across the UK.
But the investment worked of course, and the team has done amazingly well since then. But don't consider this anything but an investment where two celebrities used their image to aid it's success.
I don't like his movies but I respect his hustle. He has enough money to approach an agent and tell them "I want to make this movie, I want to cast all my friends in it, and I want my character to walk away with a hot date at the end" and the agent just says okay.
They're pretty much all the same movie with different names on them. But it's pretty clear that everyone involved in those movies was just having a great time making them.
Always hated him. Its just the most banal frat boy attention-seeking attempts at humor, and nothing ever rises above the level of his shitty Thanksgiving turkey song.
He's not Jack Black in "the big year" he also did a movie about being a mortician in a small town or something. Not that good of a movie, but definitely not Jack Black
They can be used interchangeably typically but anytime in this usage is grammatically correct. Any time usually would be preceded by a preposition like, "at any time" and is a noun. Anytime is an adverb.
My former peer talks about Will Smith a lot. I was working in a city where they film a lot of stuff, and Will would travel before filming started. He'd come in, book a bit of the mayor's time, and thank him for letting them film. He'd waste his day touring the city and seeing local groups as a drop-in guest, and then bail. The guy really worked on his image and PR and seemed to come off as generally a good guy ... before.
Adam Sandler. I dunno that everyone likes him, but he seems very popular and lots of people seem to love his movies, but I can't fucking stand him. I don't enjoy his style of comedy, I find him equal parts vapid and grating in everything I've ever seen him in, I just don't see the appeal.
From the interviews that I've seen and the accounts of people who've encountered him it seems that he's a pretty genuine guy. He knows he's not making high art and isn't pretending otherwise.
I mean that wouldn't surprise me, I'm sure he's a lovely person, he's just kind of the opposite of entertaining to watch for me. But, to each their own.
She was awarded a Best Actress trophy or whatever the fuck it's called... She couldn't even act surprised. Because she obviously knew she was getting it ahead of time.
Anthony Mackie. Nothing particularly offensive about him, but he's a bit of a charisma vacuum and that constant pinch-faced expression irritates me for some reason.
Cringe comedy actors like Ferrell. Just saying or doing stupid cringeworthy shit that really isn’t funny to make a situation more uncomfortable and unbelievable.
I agree with this comment in general, but don't think Ferrell is a good example. Or really, maybe he is a good example, but the way his movies are shot isn't a good example.
In Ferrell movies, the gag is that the actor says or does something outrageously dumb, and then the other actors largely go along with it, either pumping up the idea, or being coerced by it, or stomping it down in a hilariously insulting fashion. If there is ever a moment of awkward silence, it lingers for a second before the scene ends. Arrested Development is another example of this being done well. It's a farce - the actions are so bizarre and outlandish that we can't possibly imagine ourselves doing it, so we are absolved of sympathy for the cartoonish actor and enjoy seeing them fumble their way through the scene.
But there is a new wave of "cringe comedy" that seems to not understand what a farce is. A character will do something just beyond the limit of what we could imagine ourselves doing, so we can still identify with the character. Then the other characters react in the way people would react in real life - with stern condemnation or cold shouldering. And the scene goes on and on and on. It is terrible.
Nobody ever said he was a great actor, and even he knows it.. which is why he gave so much money to the vfx artists in The Matrix. His stint as Jonathan Harker in Dracula is legendarily awful.
John Wick has been a big turnaround for him, but it's a character that doesnt talk unless he absolutely has to.
I'd warn you that it's a pretty horny film, but Francis Ford Coppola's Bram Stoker's Dracula (by Clive Barker /j) was also very horny, so that may not be an issue.
Yeah he’s a truly awful actor. I’m amazed he’s as popular as he is. His real life training to do his own stunts for John Wick is super impressive, and I think the first movie was fine for him since he barely talked, but goddamn, any time he says anything it’s just such a chore to listen to.
The scene in the second matrix movie where Hugo Weaving comes back and confronts him has such an incredible monologue from Hugo Weaving, and then one fucking line from Keanu is just so goddamn stilted it almost ruins the whole scene. Lol
Either way, I totally agree. I’m
Sure it’s tough for even highly skilled actors to share the screen with a master like Hugo Weaving, but for Keanu Reeves, it really serves to highlight how stilted he is. At least for me.
Still seems like a cool guy though and his movies can be fun.
That's true. I think some "bad actors" just get roped into playing particular characters, and then when they get a part that's completely different it turns out they're not actually that bad.
Yeah I don't feel her honestly even seeing herself as an actor per ce. Like she's typecast because that's who she is (or at least thats her public persona) and she just rolls with it cause it works in her favour and people love to see it.
For the black & white movie days...
Barbara Stanwyck. I get that in Double Indemnity she's supposed to be an evil bitch, but even in movies where she's supposed to be the one you're rooting for...she's terrible. And in one movie I saw with her I didn't even realise it was her at first and I was still like, 'This person is terrible.' and then I realised it was her.
For the modern day - being somebody born in the 80s that grew up in the 90s...
Di Caprio. Even when I was a kid I was like, 'There's something off with him and I don't know it is, but there's something off....' and everybody else is going on about how amazing he is. Now at least we know that he's a predatory creep.
Young Bruce Willis was hilarious and nuanced. Hudson Hawk, Death Becomes Her, 12 Monkeys, the Jackal, and of course Moonlighting. He was willing to do wacky and silly and serious, and created memorable characters. He deserves to be remembered for that. The recent cash grabs should be ignored when considering his body of work. Pretty much everything since the Sin City sequel.
Ryan Reynolds. I'd be hesitant to say "everyone likes him" because while he is popular he does have a pretty big base of folks who dislike him as well.
Norman Reedus i guess? Im a big metal gear fan but I won’t play death stranding.
Norman reedus is gross and looks like the smelly guy with cigarette burns on his fingers and bitten up fingernails. He repulses me, I have nothing but contempt for him. He’s so skeevy looking.
Whaaaat, you don't wanna play the game with the gross guy you dislike with pissing mechanics that also lets you collect your sweat, piss, and poop and put them into grenades to throw at ghosts?
I am rather susceptible to hating actors because of some role they played. I literally hated Hugh Grant for no other reason than him being an asshole to Bridget Jones. I am now scared to watch Gladiator.
Always hated him. Always called him a bad actor whose idea of acting amounts to throwing on a fake accent and literally nothing else to build his characters; no mannerisms, no method, no changing his body or his face. He's just Leonardo DiCaprio with an accent every...single...time.
Before The Revenant, when everyone was complaining about him being "snubbed" by the oscars, I always thought "no...he is legitimately fucking terrible...especially when he was younger" (ie. Romeo and Juliet, Titanic, Gangs of New York years). And I thought I was taking crazy pills since everyone else seemed to adore him because of Titanic.
Kristen Schaal - I absolutely hated her in 30 Rock and that just stuck with me. But I'm starting to come around since What We Do in the Shadows. I also never had a problem with her voice acting.
These are the ones I know but there are others who i dislike but never learn their names. I could also probably think of more but that's more time and headspace than they deserve.
Tom Cruise
Nic Cage
Chris Pratt
Alec Baldwin
Will Smith
Marc Wahlberg.
Timothy Chalamet
Toby McGuire
Gwyneth Paltrow
Adam Driver
Jared Leto
I disagree with many of his views, but I definitely wouldn't call him right-wing. He seems to me more like a libertarian from before "don't tread on me" actually meant "please tread on me." Hell, he's said the CEO of Nestle should be shot.
He also downplayed the risk of electing Trump (first time around) with a "what's the worst that could happen" attitude. I also can't stand his misogynist attitude towards women "what could Michelle Obama teach us? How to tell if a dick smells presidential?"
To me that's an attitude catering directly to the alt-right, incel crowd.
I felt the same until I heard him speak for extended periods. My wife LOVES him and convinced me to give him a second chance; I think you should too. He has the affect of being a rightwing dipshit, but if you give him a chance, you will find this is not the case.
chris pratt and rob machlenny. stay in your lane rob, collaborating with ryan and manning is really strange for your characther, and it looks like desperation to stay with the hollywood circle of elites. your interviews you have given over the pandemic makes you extremely pretentious: acting like its secret on how to get steroids for you s13 role, and downplaying it. mooching off ryan reynolds popularity as a transaction, plastic surgery+botox is pretty much ruined your face a little, and kaitlyn olsen.
Jason Momoa. Can't act, plays every character the same, and can't seem to keep himself from smirking in every moment of screentime.
Also Paul Dano. Someone else mentioned Leo's "imposter syndrome" and I would apply that to Dano also. I can't tell if he's acting too much or not enough, but he always feels out of place.
Especially there. I’ve seen older versions of the movie and read the book, and she was just not believable. For me at least. That is what I expect from an actor, to be believable and let me immerse myself in the story. It does not happen with her.
I don’t know if people like him or not but I find all of John Ham’s performances to be really similar. Even when playing a villain in Baby Driver he sucked, no one believes this milquetoast man who’s delivering a completely flat performance is some bad ass tough guy, granted all the “villains” except spacey were absolutely terrible and cliche in an otherwise fun and good movie.
He’s just really boring, really flat, he’s never made me feel or think anything he’s always “John Ham” regardless of the role he’s in
I don't necessarily buy him as a serious actor. Mad Men was so well written that I think almost anyone could have been an effective Don Draper. My opinion is that he pulled off about 90% of that role based on his looks. (I think it worked overall because there were so many very talented actors surrounding him.)
That said, I love him as a comedic actor. His SNL appearances are delightful, and I'm always pleasantly surprised when he shows up in comedy shows and films.
I feel the opposite. I want to hate him so badly, but he's a good actor. Like I was absolutely furious about his casting in Interview with a Vampire, then he killed it, was gaunt and vampire as hell. He is not good looking to me and seems a shit person, but my goodness he can act.
Doesn't he basically always play the same person?
Have you seen him young? I could watch Topgun to get myself off to.
He can act. He was good in Legend and great in Interview with a Vampire. Shame he's a terrible person.
I don't like Tom Cruise but at this point I don't even remember why. Is he a shit head?
That, and pretty much every movie he’s in these days are just an ego based adrenalin rush designed by and for himself. All the parts he plays just come off as “Tom Cruise half heartedly pretending to be X”.
I really like "The Last Samurai" despite Tom Cruise playing Tom Cruise
I feel that's old enough not to be in the Tom Cruise produced issue area. In the 2000s, he was in War of the worlds, Collateral, The Last Samurai and even showed he still had range in Magnolia, Vanilla Sky and even Tropic Thunder. It wasn't quite the same as the 90s where he was cast in a huge range of great roles, and it definitely became less common over the 00s.
I'd say from 2010 onwards, he's stared in 0 films that don't feel warped to be an advert for his specific style of masculinity. Even if one was good, Edge of Tomorrow, it's still a Tom Cruise movie.
That and making your wives sign a contract waiver (beyond a prenup) is fucked up.
Jack Black. Seems like a nice dude, but he’s a an annoying presence in every movie he’s in. His is the definition of a “sweat act”.
He turned his back on his bandmate after said bandmate made a joke about wishing Trump got assassinated, and he condemned palestine for standing up to their oppressors. He's a shitlib at best
To be fair, the only Palestine comments I've seen were from immediately after Oct 7, when that was a fairly reasonable take.
Still though, total sellout. Tenacious D defined my adolescence and it's really disheartening to watch JB heel turn after tasting that Kung Fu Panda money.
I agree about Palestine, where there was a huge, disheartening cry from America in October - December 2023, when the general attitude was that this was all a terrorist attack, and not the beginning of a genocide. I am definitely wary of celebrities who made pro Israel statements then, but I feel many felt expected to, or were just grossly misinformed.
He does sort of just suck though. I feel the internet's perception of his soured so fast in the 2020s, from beloved to loathed, and all he did was keep doing what he always does, just with a tiny amount more selling out, which was enough to snowball the hate.
2005 JBles would call 2025 JB a sellout, no question. The man who raged against City Hall for 9 minutes. I always assumed "as long as there's a record deal we'll always be friends" was more tongue in cheek.
I think a lot of people are turning to this opinion.
We’re ahead of the curve on this one. I’ve found him annoying for decades, and now it turns out he’s kinda a shitty person, too. It always annoyed me that he was Reddit’s darling.
Will Ferrell
Thank you. I can't stand his humor. Cringe on top of cringe with a side of cringe with nothing to balance out the cringe. Just not my cup of tea.
He's the guy that can be brilliantly funny about 1% of the time, but that 1% is completely canceled-out by the 99% of other material, which is him just randomly throwing shit at the wall. He's truly awful and I dread seeing him.
More cowbell. That's it. The only funny thing he's ever done. Although the t-shirt did most of the heavy lifting.
Oh yes, he is a very wicked bad actor for the greater good of bad!
I honestly don’t enjoy his sense of humor, he is not too awful in serious roles but still don’t go out of my way to watch. I could say the same for Seth Rogen, his laugh just annoys me to no end.
It’s mostly SNL humour, which imo is not the best as it kind of relies on being self aware that you’re in a comedy. It’s not for everyone so I can see why you think that.
I do like that sense of humor, which is why I don’t like Will Ferrell. He’s always trying to be Chevy Chase but with out the timing r talent at pratfalls
I'm waiting for women to come out of the woodwork about him, tbh.
Genuinely almost ruined the Barbie movie for me. They could've had so many better actors in that role.
I just do not find him humorous.
I get this. I was listening to a podcast, Conan O'Brien's I think, where Will Ferrell came up and they were talking about how he's typically a pretty straightforward and serious kind of person off camera.
He turns it on for the camera but it's not who he is in real life. There's nothing wrong with it per se but it made him seem a lot more disingenuous to me.
I think a lot of comedians are this way, and it makes sense. Most of us have a "work persona" that is not exactly the same as what we would consider our "real" personality.
For a more genuine version Will Ferrell, and just a hell of a story of friendship and overcoming challenges, I heartily recommend the documentary Will & Harper.
That's the road trip film he did right? I think I have it, just haven't watched it yet.
Chris Pratt
This is the one I'm most in line with ... I enjoyed him in the first Guardians movie the first time I watched it, but having seen more of his acting I think that was either dumb luck or great directing.
I actively avoid watching stuff with him in now, including the first Guardians movie. He gives off a bad vibe to me.
I’m exactly the same way.
The internet made him his darling and then turned on him pretty quickly, a similar thing to what most female stars face, such as Jennifer Lawrence hugely had to deal with in the 2010s. Not that I'm fond of the guy, but this his internet attitude stinks and I think has coloured his image since. However:
He's had a really strange rise to fame. He was in Parks and Rec as the lovable goofball type, then the US army literally put him in Zero Dark Thirty (a film with unbelievable rewriting and military control) to be a recruiting tool, "Even Andy from Parks and Rec can Kill Bin Laden." Even though he was put on the map by nationalist military propaganda, I don't blame him for that.
He also attends a church (Zoe Church) which was modelled of an openly homophobic church (Hillsong), and founded by a former pastor of the homophobic church, although this church specifically has no open statement on LGBTQ+ people. This church and it's pastor are absolutely suspiciously absent on this stance, to the point many assume it's homophobic and transphobic but in LA and not wanting the backlash, particularly as the pastor has funded a Christian film, The heart of Man, that has an openly homophobic messages.
There was also a controversy with his wife and ex-wife that I think was more of a fuck up than anything else. He parted with his first wife who he'd been with since before his fame, not long after she had a baby that was born premature. He then married again and announced his gratitude for a healthy child. Obviously people didn't like this, but I don't think he meant it how it comes across. People also feel he showed disloyalty to his first wife in leaving her once famous, but even if fame did change him, that's still a forgivable reason for parting ways with someone.
Although I don't avoid movies with Pratt, I feel he wants to be funny like Robin Williams, and a hero like Harrison Ford, without the charm or wit to come close to either. What we're left with is a bland, typecast actor who feels he'd abandon any tolerance and compassion in his image if it stopped being in vogue, but maybe we just want to see him fall from grace.
I honestly don't give a shit about any of that. On screen he comes across as the kind of guy no sensible woman would want to be in a room with alone.
He was surprisingly great in The Terminal List.
He went downhill after parks and rec
Weight loss made him less loveable
essentially a nepo-actor, through his wife, and he acts like MC when it comes to roles and "surprise" hes a supporter of alt-right groups.
Yup. He and Ben Affleck are movie killers for me. If I see them on the trailer, I know it’s a movie I should just avoid.
Agreed
Every time I see his bad acting, Im just like ”why is this dude so popular and why is he landing these big roles?”
Mark Wahlberg makes my skin crawl
He's the only actor I can think of I actively boycott other than Gal Godot. Aside from his violent racism and American nationalism which is all well documented, I just absolutely loathe the type of character he likes to play; the macho snarky asshole who feels like he got kicked out of basic training and makes being a veteran his whole personality.
There's few archetypes I hate more than the "former soldier who could kill a man, harbouring some deep unnerving instinct", or the "American in a truck who loves the flag and is just a hard working guy", and somehow he always plays and glamorises both, despite not actually being either.
Pray with me.
Ctrl+f "Mark"
Cool, it's already here. Me too.
He beats up Asian people for fun you know.
Mahkie Mahk
Jared Leto, Tom Cruise. Here on Lemmy they might not be as loved as in the general population, but these pieces of shit posing as human beings are definitely loved more than they should.
I think the world turned a bit on Leto after his rat-mailing phase while playing the joker. But I'd say he probably still doesn't engender as much antipathy as he should in the general populace.
Can't argue with Tom Cruise, though. Admittedly he seems like a nice guy, but the whole funding America's biggest and most dangerous cult definitely hampers that.
He wanted the weird image. He implied he was intending to start some sort of harem cult a few years back, which was really a hippie holiday for millionaire women in a very LA way. He absolutely played up his image as a self obsessed creep looking to be worshipped to sell this experience. I honestly feel everything kinda gross about how Jared Leto feels is marketing, although God knows why, as it must hurt his career.
Rat-mailing?
https://www.digitaltrends.com/movies/jared-leto-joker-suicide-squad-method-acting-dead-animals/
He sent his co-stars dead animals and condoms as "gifts"
Jared Leto has always given me bad vibes and with what's come out about him recently it seems like those feelings were justified
This radical dualism is partly an American thing. Here on the other side of the pond, most people believe (IMO) that one can be simultaneously a "piece of shit posing as a human being" and a great actor.
I mostly agree with this, but apparently Leto
is a giant wormwas raping or assaulting people or something. While I do think "cancel culture" or whatever is dumb and believe separating art from the artists is an ok thing to do as a consumer, blacklisting someone from the industry for rape/SA is just about the only time I'm in full agreeance with "canceling." Can't be having that type of shit, idec if a Trump supporting actor gets work tbh but assault is a step too far. Liking things he was in prior is one thing, continuing to make workplaces unsafe by employing him is another.As for consumers, I think they should be free to watch what they want and boycott what they want with impunity and no judgement (besides maybe taste lol), especially if they pirate. Still liking a thing you grew up loving even after something shady comes out does not mean you support the shady thing, especially if you're not literally supporting them monetarily.
(I also fucking hate Thirty Suckents to Mars and he should be punished for making bad music.)
TC afaik isn't dangerous in the same sense, he's just a face of a cult. Miscavige is the really dangerous one there and he should probably be shot, but TC just makes cheesy movies and has sex with fish. As such I don't think there'd be a problem employing him the same as it is for Leto, but also I'm personally not watching his garbage, whether you do or not should be left to you (and I won't judge, other than maybe your taste in movies! Lol)
I'm not an American and I'm not watching any movies with them simply because they're garbage.
Is that why Jimmy Savile was given a free pass to diddle kids until after he died?
Absolutely my two choices as well
Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson.
Why does this man have an acting career?
He plays one character, but the character is kind of likable and funny. To me he's the definition of a popcorn flick actor.
Are we talking about Jack Black, or The Rock..?
Yes.
WWE really pushed many stars to become hollywood actors. bautista is one that actually tries as an actor, dwayne is a movie star attention seeker, also dwayne apparently is the "ellen degeneres" of behind the scenes too.
I was pretty surprised by Cena in Peacemaker
WWE did not push their guys to be Hollywood guys. WWE pushed them to be WWE film guys.
Creating their own production company to make cheap straight to DVD movies. Using them to push guys as stars.
I definitely don't think he's super talented or anything, but he's funny and charismatic at least.
God he's awful. He has absolutely no acting skills. I skip everything that includes him.
Hot
Ray Romano
He reason that Gene Hackman gave up acting, also he right wing asshole.
I think Gene Hackman gave up acting because of the dementia. He acted til he was nearly 75 years old.
I felt this way until I saw him in the big sick
He was good on Dr Katz
Pretty much every comic who guested as one of Dr. Katz's patients can count that appearance among their best work. I loved that show so much, and not enough people know about it anymore.
That's because they were all doing their best comic routines against another excellent comic. They could tweak the timing and the delivery and do all their best stuff as good as it can be done to the best possible audience. The premise was perfect for it.
They can do that in movies and other TV shows too...
I suppose comics have done that. Like Seinfeld worked bits into the show, especially in the early seasons. But that was all Jerry's stand up. Roseanne was the same early on, many of the sitcom premises and monologues were from Barr's stand up routines. But it was never like weekly guests got an opportunity to film and edit a tight five. I honestly can't think of another movie or show that did it, except maybe talk shows? But then it's still a performance in front of an audience. You can't workshop a line or a pause during the Late Show, unless it's a satirical talk show like Between Two Ferns or Eric Andre.
not surprising that jerry irl turned out a pos irl.
pratt, rob machlenny, despite him making isaip, hes really super pretentious iRL which also translated to his show. watched his interviews has given over the pandemic and beond, and hes been collaborating with questionable people, luke ryan reynold and mannings, in order to mooch of people in hollywood.
Leonardo DiCaprio. I get huge, cringy 'imposter syndrome' vibes from him, like he knows he shouldn't be doing this for a living but soldiers on regardless. I've never bought into a single one of his performances. He always seems like he's 'acting', and never really embodies the characters or reacts 'in the moment'. It's all a poor imitation of what he has seen other actors do.
I hate that he became Scorsese's new De Niro, and so when I hear of a new Scorsese film I get excited and then immediately lose interest knowing that DiCaprio is probably gonna be leading it. Literally every film he has done would have been better with a different actor.
Also Nicolas Cage. I get the memey antifan sort of thing that bolsters his career, but let's be honest, there's no hint of talent in the man. He has ruined what might have been great films. Bringing Out the Dead could have been a legit classic if not for his involvement.
Exact opposite feelings here, and I generally have a hard time suspending disbelief. I remember seeing The Basketball Diaries (this was before Titanic) and being blown away by his acting. I'd say this is a rare example of an actor being held back by good looks. A lot of folks have just not wanted to admit that this particular heartthrob has genuine talent. To contrast with, for example, Keanu, or Clooney.
He's the modern Robert Redford
Apt, never noticed that parallel
I can't believe I forgot about Nicolas Cage!
Nice call!
The man does not have a single molecule of acting ability anywhere within his soul.
Edit.... Holy shit, I looked up a meme I made on Digg like 20 years ago, it's somewhere out on the internet!!! Yeah I did make it lol
https://lh5.ggpht.com/_e109kKH12do/TK4U61GLgYI/AAAAAAAABus/ILt3RAuWljw/w1200-h630-p-k-no-nu/cage7.jpg?imgmax=800
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WqDX6wF3BLc&t=59s
Yeah but nobody likes him
🤷♂️ guess I'm nobody
Oh jeez I'm sorry dude it's ok here's a point up or whatever we call it here. For what it's worth I remember I did enjoy this one movie where he plays these twin writers or something. And that was double Cage right there
Haha, no worries man. It's just a light hearted conversation.
I'll meet you half way and say that even though I enjoy his movies, I don't think I'd like hanging out with him
Why dude, could be fun, cocaine's a hell of a drug hahahah
I don't generally have an issue with Leo but the imposter syndrome comment is on point. He does have a vibe and that description sums it up well.
Yes! exactly. You just summed up my thinking better than I could.
Very good explanation, thank you!!
Finally I can explain with words why I hate the front side of his head so much.
Jack Black. I think it was around the time he started up his Jablinksy crap on Youtube. There were tons of "organic posts" on reddit about it and it just didn't sit right with me. Ever since I can't stand him.
Big "theatre kid" energy on him.
I also could never stand him. I think I just saw him in to many things basically being Jack Black or something.
There is actually one movie called The Holiday, it's a RomCom from 2006 which I like very much, and I think he does a good job there.
I hated him in that! Loved him in High Fidelity and after The Holiday, I was very mixed up about him
Ben Afflict.
Was very weird how everyone liked that he was chosen as Batman, he was such a bad Batman. He actually gave rich prick vibes.
Not defending Affleck here, but isn’t Bruce Wayne a rich prick?
No, he pretends to be but deep down he cares more about justice.
Or at least that’s the version I’m used to from Christian Bale’s Batman and the games.
In the dark knight trilogy, Bruce intentionally lives on the streets for a few years and only goes back to use his money to fight injustice.
The whole point of Batman is a rich guy who has a very strong moral compass cause his parents were murdered. It’s not suppose to be realistic, it’s a fantasy.
I most loved how Kevin Conroy's Batman from the Animated Series portrayed this aspect of the character. Conroy did measurably different voices for Batman and Bruce which made it completely clear that Bruce was the false persona being put on for appearances while Batman was the real voice and personality, and also sold how good Batman was at pretending to be Bruce when needed. Conroy's Batman isn't just a ninja genius detective, he's also a good actor, and to portray that as well as he did Conroy had to be an awesome actor.
Conroy's Bruce Wayne is as close to his "normal" speaking voice as I've ever heard, but he makes it sound like an affect in ways that are hard to describe. He was truly a great one.
People liked Batfleck because he was the closest to comic Batman looks-wise. Tall, physically imposing, square jaw, rugged, etc. He was also the best part of the Snyder movies and that’s a low bar. His version was also an older, disillusioned Bruce/Batman which is why he was more prick-ish.
My hot take is that Christian Bales was the worst thing about that Batman trilogy, and I love Christian bale in most things he’s in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH8c7wkMDuU
I dont recall everyone liking that he was chosen as Batman, in fact as I recall most people were like "Ben Affleck?! That guy from Mallrats and Gigli?"
I like the actor, but definitely did not do well in that role. They went for the big name over appropriate casting and the movie suffered
I mean, the acting wasn't terrible, but the writing was fucking atrocious. I think Ben could have done a stellar job if it had been literally any other production team behind it.
I agree, I think he could have pulled off the same persona written for both Bale and Patterson's batmen. He's also played a lot of assholes, and I'm not sure how much that just develops into a feeling that gets under your skin.
psst. Batman was often portrayed as a rich prick.
Same, never liked the guy either
I think that's why I enjoyed Gone Girl. I didn't have to like him and his smugness or whatever worked into the character.
Zendaya, very boring actress
She's very typecast, but she can act. If she actually got a role where she could show strong emotion, I think she could rise to it well. She's good in Challengers and great in Euphoria.
Yeah, I think her and Sydney Sweeney are both really good in Euphoria. Sweeney's meltdown was great, and funny.
She had a chance in dune, instead she played chani as "MJ from the desert".
a nepo actor, through tom holland. another one is gal gadot.
Gal Godot.
I'm very impressed with Lemmy here for not doing what Reddit would have and naming a long list of women. That being said, if I didn't feel a moral obligation to boycott Gal Godot, she is so talentless that she hasn't made anyone else's list because it's such a low hanging fruit.
I agree. The first Wonder Woman was ok, but she's so stiff in everything since.
she was stiff in WW too, but it worked because the whole side plot was that she's never met human beings and doesn't know how to interact with them. also she's like a demigod so being devoid of emotions doesn't look that weird on a character like that. they played to their strengths.
most issues with movies about acting are actually issues about casting. i love Keanu, but he's also stiff. but that worked perfectly his best roles: johnny mnemonic, constantine and of course neo. even john wick worked mostly because he's built up for the first half of the movie as a mythical, inhuman force of nature.
so yeah for that particular rendition of wonder woman, great choice: she looks like a demigod; she acts like she's never seen a human before. perfect.
for anything else, please kill me so i don't have to suffer through this scene.
Oh god. Snow-white's failure is mostly her fault.
That's like blaming the rat who was on fire for running into a barn filled with shit
Snow White was a failure at conception, not because of one actor.
Ryan Reynolds. Man got married on a plantation and no one seems to care, plus he plays the same character in everything he's in.
Oh my god, yes. He was fine using that schtick in one movie, but it’s every goddamn film he’s in…
At least on Detective Pikachu he tried doing something different, but was told "no, we dont want acting, we want Ryan Reynolds", so it might be more of a typecasting problem.
He is very involved in the branding that results in his typecasting, so I have no pitty for it.
Aren't former plantations now just pretty places to take wedding shots? When I worked picking grapes, the winery was ALWAYS hosting weddings.
Any picture in the USA is a spit in the face of the native Americans.
Getting married at a historic plantation in the South is like getting married at a former concentration camp. It's spitting on the graves of those who were tortured there.
He's actually done a lot of movies playing against type that I enjoyed. But,to be fair, he's paid millions of dollars to be Ryan Reynolds
dint know that about, hes even more cringed when he collabed with rob machlenny to buy a soccer team.(both are cringe)
This was my hometown's team. It's super strange having it put on the map, where basically everybody knows this story, and before then nothing at all.
It's absolutely just a random investment in a potentially very lucrative industry. 21st century football is massively swayed by who can spend the most money, especially below the very top level where the money becomes too ridiculous. Wrexham had the oldest active ground in the UK and the ground itself is particularly goodnfkr the level of play. Wrexham had dropped from 3rd division to like 5th, near 6th when he bought it (I think). But Wrexham as a city isn't small, it's the largest population centre in North Wales, and before it gained city status in 2022, was a larger town than many of the cities near it. All it really needed to do well was investment, where it had the facilities to be tenfold more successful if anybody actually paid for it, it's the same for probably a dozen other teams across the UK.
But the investment worked of course, and the team has done amazingly well since then. But don't consider this anything but an investment where two celebrities used their image to aid it's success.
Adam Sandler
I don't like his movies but I respect his hustle. He has enough money to approach an agent and tell them "I want to make this movie, I want to cast all my friends in it, and I want my character to walk away with a hot date at the end" and the agent just says okay.
They're pretty much all the same movie with different names on them. But it's pretty clear that everyone involved in those movies was just having a great time making them.
I think he has a career because he has serious dirt on somebody.
Have you seen Uncut Gems?
I also loved Sandler in PTA's Punch Drunk Love
Probably the best RomCom.
Well considering that I detest Adam Sandler, obv no.
He's an irritating little shit who never grew out of being 5 years old. He's not funny, he's not charismatic, I hate his ugly little beady-eyed face.
Alrighty, this seems like pretty specific hate
Would you prefer I say I detest a person but I have no justification?
He's an immature, unfunny, limited-talent, zero charm hack.
He does not deserve a career in film.
Always hated him. Its just the most banal frat boy attention-seeking attempts at humor, and nothing ever rises above the level of his shitty Thanksgiving turkey song.
I have to disagree that nothing ever rises above that style humor. He does have a few very effective turns with serious filmmaking.
Jack Black. I don’t think I’ve ever enjoyed a single minute of his acting. Absolutely cannot stand him and his whole thing he has going on.
Used to like him. he's still a good person in my book. that said, I can't watch him be "Jack Black" in yet another movie.
He's not Jack Black in "the big year" he also did a movie about being a mortician in a small town or something. Not that good of a movie, but definitely not Jack Black
The only Jack Black acting moment I didn't hate was his cameo in Anchorman. Interestingly Jack Black and Will Ferrell are my top two answers.
Jim Carrey anytime he does comedy.
Listen here, you little shit.
Even as far back as Fire Marshall Bill?
Lemme show ya somethin'!
'any time', here, my dude.
They can be used interchangeably typically but anytime in this usage is grammatically correct. Any time usually would be preceded by a preposition like, "at any time" and is a noun. Anytime is an adverb.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anytime
Will Ferrell. He's a creep. He's not funny and is way too keen to play the love interest of actresses much younger than he is.
Tom Hanks.
He seems like a lovely person. I just can't stand seeing him act.
Thank you!
Tom Hanks as praised as he is, CANNOT ACT
To be fair, I liked him as David S Pumpkins. And also one particular moment in Dragnet. But that's about it.
Which moment in Dragnet?
When he ponders whether or not Dan Ackroyd and the virgin Connie Swail have rendered her nickname redundant 😁
Definitely a fun moment.
A swail (swale) is defined as "a shallow ditch". Which rhymes with shallow bitch.
Sure yes. Enjoying an perforner is fine. Confusing that person's charm with acting ability is where most people go off the rails.
His best role is Woody in Toy Story though.
Tom Cruise & Will Smith.
I like Will Smith.
My former peer talks about Will Smith a lot. I was working in a city where they film a lot of stuff, and Will would travel before filming started. He'd come in, book a bit of the mayor's time, and thank him for letting them film. He'd waste his day touring the city and seeing local groups as a drop-in guest, and then bail. The guy really worked on his image and PR and seemed to come off as generally a good guy ... before.
Adam Sandler. I dunno that everyone likes him, but he seems very popular and lots of people seem to love his movies, but I can't fucking stand him. I don't enjoy his style of comedy, I find him equal parts vapid and grating in everything I've ever seen him in, I just don't see the appeal.
From the interviews that I've seen and the accounts of people who've encountered him it seems that he's a pretty genuine guy. He knows he's not making high art and isn't pretending otherwise.
I mean that wouldn't surprise me, I'm sure he's a lovely person, he's just kind of the opposite of entertaining to watch for me. But, to each their own.
Ryan Reynolds because I've met and had the displeasure of working with him twice.
Story time?
Yea don't just drop a shit like that and don't flush.
Julia Roberts.
She was awarded a Best Actress trophy or whatever the fuck it's called... She couldn't even act surprised. Because she obviously knew she was getting it ahead of time.
I dunno why any of them act surprised, they and we are perfectly aware they know beforehand. It's wierd that they do.
Being an alleged Actress receiving Best Actress Award; Weeks to prepare; blows performance.
The entirely farcicle performance?
You really have trouble connecting basic concepts don't you
Yeah, me and ya Mum.
The block feature is the best thing that Lemmy has - I'll think I'll use it right now.
Excellent.
Do they always thought? I think mostly, they just act grateful, and happy.
Anthony Mackie. Nothing particularly offensive about him, but he's a bit of a charisma vacuum and that constant pinch-faced expression irritates me for some reason.
Well said. Can't stand that guy.
Agreed. Mackie is just so blase. I've seen football fathead posters with more charisma
Upvoted for using the word blasé, which I haven’t heard in forever
Cringe comedy actors like Ferrell. Just saying or doing stupid cringeworthy shit that really isn’t funny to make a situation more uncomfortable and unbelievable.
Will Ferrell, Steve Carrel and Ben Stiller are the 3 horsemen of the comedy apocalypse
I agree with this comment in general, but don't think Ferrell is a good example. Or really, maybe he is a good example, but the way his movies are shot isn't a good example.
In Ferrell movies, the gag is that the actor says or does something outrageously dumb, and then the other actors largely go along with it, either pumping up the idea, or being coerced by it, or stomping it down in a hilariously insulting fashion. If there is ever a moment of awkward silence, it lingers for a second before the scene ends. Arrested Development is another example of this being done well. It's a farce - the actions are so bizarre and outlandish that we can't possibly imagine ourselves doing it, so we are absolved of sympathy for the cartoonish actor and enjoy seeing them fumble their way through the scene.
But there is a new wave of "cringe comedy" that seems to not understand what a farce is. A character will do something just beyond the limit of what we could imagine ourselves doing, so we can still identify with the character. Then the other characters react in the way people would react in real life - with stern condemnation or cold shouldering. And the scene goes on and on and on. It is terrible.
Keanu Reeves.
There's a difference between having positive PR & being good looking vs. being able to act.
Nobody ever said he was a great actor, and even he knows it.. which is why he gave so much money to the vfx artists in The Matrix. His stint as Jonathan Harker in Dracula is legendarily awful.
John Wick has been a big turnaround for him, but it's a character that doesnt talk unless he absolutely has to.
He really is more of an action movie character indeed. It works great in John Wick, and also did work well in The Matrix.
Jonathan Harker proves that he can't do accent work, but he did do some decent acting in The Devil's Advocate.
Yes, Harker, thanks. I havent seen TDA, which is weird because it seems right up my alley
I'd warn you that it's a pretty horny film, but Francis Ford Coppola's Bram Stoker's Dracula (by Clive Barker /j) was also very horny, so that may not be an issue.
Yeah he’s a truly awful actor. I’m amazed he’s as popular as he is. His real life training to do his own stunts for John Wick is super impressive, and I think the first movie was fine for him since he barely talked, but goddamn, any time he says anything it’s just such a chore to listen to.
The scene in the second matrix movie where Hugo Weaving comes back and confronts him has such an incredible monologue from Hugo Weaving, and then one fucking line from Keanu is just so goddamn stilted it almost ruins the whole scene. Lol
I looked it up
I can't believe the director didn't reshoot Keanu's part like 200 times. What a fucking juxtaposition of talent, wow!!!!
https://youtu.be/uXEUW792etk
Yours is perhaps an even better example, but I was thinking of this scene from the second matrix movie:
https://youtu.be/poLPKdc-zTY
Either way, I totally agree. I’m Sure it’s tough for even highly skilled actors to share the screen with a master like Hugo Weaving, but for Keanu Reeves, it really serves to highlight how stilted he is. At least for me.
Still seems like a cool guy though and his movies can be fun.
Owen Wilson
He's actually pretty good as Mobius in the Loki series
That's true. I think some "bad actors" just get roped into playing particular characters, and then when they get a part that's completely different it turns out they're not actually that bad.
There's also the element of maturity. Young actors rarely know how to handle both new fame and their craft
Oh, woooow
Add Ben Stiller and Vince Vaughn to that pile. Can't stand any of 'em.
Ben Stiller is a really good director however… see Severance for an example
Jennifer Coolidge. She plays the same character in everything she's in, and it's a character I don't find funny at all.
Curious. I always thought she was more of a lolcow. Where that's just how she is and everyone happens to think it's funny.
Yeah I don't feel her honestly even seeing herself as an actor per ce. Like she's typecast because that's who she is (or at least thats her public persona) and she just rolls with it cause it works in her favour and people love to see it.
For the black & white movie days... Barbara Stanwyck. I get that in Double Indemnity she's supposed to be an evil bitch, but even in movies where she's supposed to be the one you're rooting for...she's terrible. And in one movie I saw with her I didn't even realise it was her at first and I was still like, 'This person is terrible.' and then I realised it was her.
For the modern day - being somebody born in the 80s that grew up in the 90s... Di Caprio. Even when I was a kid I was like, 'There's something off with him and I don't know it is, but there's something off....' and everybody else is going on about how amazing he is. Now at least we know that he's a predatory creep.
Meryl Streep. Oh God Meryl Streep
Female Keanu Reeves. Excruciatingly vanishing acting ability; gorgeous.
What the fuck. She's phenomenal.
Exactly this.
Julia Roberts.
She has way too many teeth, I'm scared.
Bruce Willis and Tom Cruise
I get Tom Cruise but given Bruce Willis’ mental decline I’m willing to overlook the last decade or two of his career.
Young Bruce Willis was hilarious and nuanced. Hudson Hawk, Death Becomes Her, 12 Monkeys, the Jackal, and of course Moonlighting. He was willing to do wacky and silly and serious, and created memorable characters. He deserves to be remembered for that. The recent cash grabs should be ignored when considering his body of work. Pretty much everything since the Sin City sequel.
He basically was just working to provide for his family before his mental difficulties caught up with him, as I understand it.
Yeah, iirc he got the diagnosis and just told his agent to say yes to literally everything he could do.
His acting was superb in Oceans Twelve!
(He played "Bruce Willis as himself".)
Yeah, I meant his work, not so much him as a person (which I know nothing about).
Ryan Reynolds. I'd be hesitant to say "everyone likes him" because while he is popular he does have a pretty big base of folks who dislike him as well.
Norman Reedus i guess? Im a big metal gear fan but I won’t play death stranding.
Norman reedus is gross and looks like the smelly guy with cigarette burns on his fingers and bitten up fingernails. He repulses me, I have nothing but contempt for him. He’s so skeevy looking.
Him being skeevy looking but actually kinda nice is the part of the appeal.
Whaaaat, you don't wanna play the game with the gross guy you dislike with pissing mechanics that also lets you collect your sweat, piss, and poop and put them into grenades to throw at ghosts?
Matt Damon
His most tolerable role was as the lead singer of Lustra in Euro Trip.
I thought he was quite good in The Talented Mr Ripley
Funny enough, that was the first Matt Damon movie I saw.
...aaaaaand I absolutely hated it 😆
Pedro Pascal
Yeah this fucking guy lol he's everywhere
He has good comedic timing. I enjoyed him onSNL
Ya everyone likes him but me. Oh well
Basically all of them. I can't think of a celebrity I can tolerate.
I've never met someone who doesn't like Willem Dafoe
We've never met.
Joaquin Phoenix.
If you hated him in gladiator, that was the intention.
I get that. He is good. It probably stems more from that very weird point, where he was doing kind of Andy Kaufman thing.
Rapping and that weird interview on Letterman, where he was giving one word answers to all of his questions.
I am rather susceptible to hating actors because of some role they played. I literally hated Hugh Grant for no other reason than him being an asshole to Bridget Jones. I am now scared to watch Gladiator.
What if I hate him in everything else too?
Leonardo DiCaprio.
Always hated him. Always called him a bad actor whose idea of acting amounts to throwing on a fake accent and literally nothing else to build his characters; no mannerisms, no method, no changing his body or his face. He's just Leonardo DiCaprio with an accent every...single...time.
Before The Revenant, when everyone was complaining about him being "snubbed" by the oscars, I always thought "no...he is legitimately fucking terrible...especially when he was younger" (ie. Romeo and Juliet, Titanic, Gangs of New York years). And I thought I was taking crazy pills since everyone else seemed to adore him because of Titanic.
Kristen Schaal - I absolutely hated her in 30 Rock and that just stuck with me. But I'm starting to come around since What We Do in the Shadows. I also never had a problem with her voice acting.
These are the ones I know but there are others who i dislike but never learn their names. I could also probably think of more but that's more time and headspace than they deserve.
Tom Cruise Nic Cage Chris Pratt Alec Baldwin Will Smith Marc Wahlberg. Timothy Chalamet Toby McGuire Gwyneth Paltrow Adam Driver Jared Leto
Actor/Comedian Bill Burr. I always found his comedy to be a "gateway drug" to right wing radicalization.
I disagree with many of his views, but I definitely wouldn't call him right-wing. He seems to me more like a libertarian from before "don't tread on me" actually meant "please tread on me." Hell, he's said the CEO of Nestle should be shot.
He also downplayed the risk of electing Trump (first time around) with a "what's the worst that could happen" attitude. I also can't stand his misogynist attitude towards women "what could Michelle Obama teach us? How to tell if a dick smells presidential?"
To me that's an attitude catering directly to the alt-right, incel crowd.
mike rowe did the same, after trump got elected in 16' he got down and started downplaying donald.
This is what gets me too. Dude has some demeaning views on women’s rights topics.
I felt the same until I heard him speak for extended periods. My wife LOVES him and convinced me to give him a second chance; I think you should too. He has the affect of being a rightwing dipshit, but if you give him a chance, you will find this is not the case.
Not a right winger though. I hope he's a gateway drug for right wingers to some actual human empathy
He is definitely not right wing. He's speaking up against that shit very loudly these days
Ryan Renoylds.
Bradley Cooper, he just seems like a smug douche deep down.
The man is a god damn saint. He delivers food to the elderly on the weekends, my grandma adores him.
that's because he plays a smug douche in almost everything. it's a part of his "character" to exude confidence but I agree it comes off as smugness.
Miles Teller. Ugly mfer
chris pratt and rob machlenny. stay in your lane rob, collaborating with ryan and manning is really strange for your characther, and it looks like desperation to stay with the hollywood circle of elites. your interviews you have given over the pandemic makes you extremely pretentious: acting like its secret on how to get steroids for you s13 role, and downplaying it. mooching off ryan reynolds popularity as a transaction, plastic surgery+botox is pretty much ruined your face a little, and kaitlyn olsen.
also alec baldwin.
All of them....
Jason Momoa. Can't act, plays every character the same, and can't seem to keep himself from smirking in every moment of screentime.
Also Paul Dano. Someone else mentioned Leo's "imposter syndrome" and I would apply that to Dano also. I can't tell if he's acting too much or not enough, but he always feels out of place.
Paul Dano was perfect in Swiss Army Man, that sense of "out of place" actually worked incredibly well for that film.
Paul Rudd. Deeply uninteresting to watch or listen to.
Adam Levine
He is such a dick in real life.
I’m onboard with this one
Casey Affleck
A Ghost Story is a wonderful movie
Julianne Moore. I just don't buy her acting to the point that it breaks the immersion with everything she's in. So I don't watch anything she does.
Even in the big lebowski?
Richard Gere. His eyes look like he's laughing at a joke, but his face tells me the jokes on the audience.
Jillian Barberie
Keira Knightly, in my opinion she seems fake. I don’t understand how is she praised for her roles.
Even in Pride and Prejudice? I thought she did well as Elizabeth Bennett there.
Especially there. I’ve seen older versions of the movie and read the book, and she was just not believable. For me at least. That is what I expect from an actor, to be believable and let me immerse myself in the story. It does not happen with her.
I don’t know if people like him or not but I find all of John Ham’s performances to be really similar. Even when playing a villain in Baby Driver he sucked, no one believes this milquetoast man who’s delivering a completely flat performance is some bad ass tough guy, granted all the “villains” except spacey were absolutely terrible and cliche in an otherwise fun and good movie.
He’s just really boring, really flat, he’s never made me feel or think anything he’s always “John Ham” regardless of the role he’s in
I don't necessarily buy him as a serious actor. Mad Men was so well written that I think almost anyone could have been an effective Don Draper. My opinion is that he pulled off about 90% of that role based on his looks. (I think it worked overall because there were so many very talented actors surrounding him.)
That said, I love him as a comedic actor. His SNL appearances are delightful, and I'm always pleasantly surprised when he shows up in comedy shows and films.
Elijah Wood...for totally destroying TLOTR with his acting
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