How likely is it that Trump will be the first President assassinated since Kennedy?
Sure, there was the attempted assassination of Reagan and the fears for Obama as the first black President, but in those cases it was a lone nutter rather than a conspiracy.
How long can Trump crash the market before an angry billionaire decides to take him out? The remaining Koch brother is already pouring money into legal challenges against Trump...
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100% chance but mostly because i think that the plan
I've been saying this for months. How long until 47 "has a stroke."
Had some polonium tea, fell out a window, then shot himself in the back of the head.
Corner's report: Looks like suicide to me.
No it needs to be a murder done by "those loony lefties", otherwise they can't use it to lock up people like AOC and Bernie Sanders.
Fell down an elevator shaft, landed on some bullets.
Twice
Not sure why anyone would bother making it look natural/accidental?
If he gets assassinated, he becomes a martyr.
A public assassination like Kennedy’s is meant to send a message. Trump would just have a cardiac event and never come out of the hospital. The real issue will be that he’s old and fat and eats trash, so he could have a legit health problem and die from natural causes easily at his age.
But then, President JD Vance. I don’t think anyone but Peter Thiel and Elon Musk want that. Trump sucks, but he’s the devil you know. Vance could be turboHitler or just hand the whole country to Silicon Valley. Rule by ChatGPT may be the worst of all possible worlds.
YES. This guy gets it. Nobody understands how lucky we are to have this fuckwit as president. Do you see all these actual fascists constantly up in his prostate? Trump was a proof of concept. These taint-lickers are panting to have control. Let's see how his mouth-breathing paint-eating constituency acts when this fat fuck is dead. Probably no different, but maybe.
Yeah but the difference is Trump has the magnetism and Vance doesn't? Usually when a cult leader dies the whole cult kinda fizzles out.
Tell that to the Christians. You might even say their leader dying sparked the whole thing.
It was much easier to fake a resurrection back then.
I mean… have you seen how good ML-generated videos are getting these days?
It's also totally possible to survive on a cross for three days and for someone to take you down while you're unconscious and put you in a cave.
We could make a religion out of this.
I think what you call "magnetism" is the balls to straight up lie to your supporters like they're stupid. Seriously, I think Trump demonstrated that you can just say whatever feels good and people will accept it with zero regard for reality. That's what was assumed false before Trump. I think they know the game plan now.
But he also says it stupid like them, in a way that can't be faked. That's why they love him. It's the classic "wanting to hear your opinion in someone else's voice". They want to hear their shitty opinions in someone else's voice. Except because they're idiots, they get grammar and syntax wrong. Or they ramble through a dozen conspiracy theories in a single run on sentence. No one but trump can carry on the way he does (at least without a script).
Exactly this. Donald Trump has the Charisma to assemble a cult whereas then these other people can hold together the coalition. Everyone's just writing Trump's coattails so without him the whole thing just falls apart
This is misguided, the rubes will believe whatever the talking heads on Fox News or the algorithmic fuckery from x or reddit, etc
Sure the cult does, but the dictatorship they left doesn't fizzle out.
I don't know if you even need the magnetism. Vance has shown he can lie just as bald-facedly As Trump does. For god sakes there was a time where the Republican hordes were carry ground cups of JD Vance cum or something. Does no one remember that? I wouldn't be so sure they wouldn't just transfer right to him.
I agree but I believe that’s why his underlings are using him as a front to destroy all checks and balances so when he does fizzle out, they can keep control.
WE ARE NOT LUCKY TO HAVE A FUCKING HALF-DEAD RETARD AS PRESIDENT. THIS IS NOT OKAY AT ANY FUCKING LEVEL.
Your president is half-dead on a few levels sweetie.
The only thing possibly holding them off is that there's 2 or 3 factions all wanting to long knife™ eachother at the first chance, which means they have to be ready to go as soon as the power vacuum happens, and one of the factions controls the VP seat.
That might delay the chaos a bit, but not for long.
Trump and the media have built a cult of personality around Trump. I don't see how that power could transfer to another person, I can't think of another person in the line up that has personality.
I disagree, and I'll point you to down-ballot MAGA Republicans who are running and winning saying the same things. I strongly believe that this has nothing to do with Trump's "personality", it's to do with what he was first willing to say and get away with. Nobody assumed you could get away with it and succeed.
Vance has no conviction behind anything he ever says. Just google "jd vance never trump" and I'm sure you'll find a slew of videos from a few years ago where he was saying he's "a never trump guy".
Kinda funny how quickly he spread his asshole to present himself for trump then.
Vance could be relatively good. Signs point to no, but those signs are weak. The only thing I truly know about him is that he'll lie for power. What he does once he gets that power is anyone's guess.
He's close to Peter Thiel. His book is really fucking condescending towards the rural poor. (Why don't they just get out like he did?) He's young enough to go for a second term if he gets half a first term. And he hates Trump except when he needs to use him to gain power.
That's the complete record of what we know about Vance. Maybe his book was bullshit that he knew would play well with rich conservatives. Maybe he was using Peter Thiel. Maybe there's a human in there we've never seen. Or maybe not.
Trump crashing the economy, Trump dying from whatever, Vance taking over and taking credit for any kind of recovery sounds almost like its planned.
Nah. The damage Trump has done can't be undone.
Sure vance might replace him and take credit for any recovery, but this level of destruction was not planned.
I do hope so. The whole don't buy american movement is just gonna pick up more and more. Once people realise that that's the best course of action anyway, there is no going back.
I don't buy that.
Whoever would be able, and willing, and succeeding with the first one, is an evil person, and would already have a plan with the second one. An evil plan, I guess, that would make the second one scared enough to become that puppet.
I haven't thought of him. I think he has very different methods, and btw, Orange is already his puppet :)
I have thought about money-stuffed Americans (not only from the Us of) and Chinese methods.
Is this some USA defaultism I’m sensing
Not anywhere near you.
Where exactly are you allowed to cast a vote?
So scared?
And Putin
So first kill Vance unawares, then kill Drumpf? Gotcha, noted!
President Mike Johnson outlaws women going out in public alone and institutes daily Bible reading classes. Attendance is mandatory if you don't want to end up in an El Salvador slave prison.
There's already been like five attempts, and two of them got shots off. Eventually, someone might get lucky.
If they get lucky, we all get lucky
I'm up all night to get lucky.
We rub a mexican monkey
Not sure Vance is much of a gain over Trump. How far down the chain would one have to go to find someone palatable?
No idea, but I'm not opposed to finding out.
You don’t want Johnson taking over. He’d go all in for the Republic of Gilead, and that’s one of the few scenarios would be meaningfully worse than what’s happening now.
I'm in.
All are republican except for the 12th in line which is RFK Jr listed as independent. The list goes to 18.
That's the problem. It's shit all the way doen.
The president has to be american unfortunately
I think things would get a bit more complicated than that, unfortunately.
Complicated, sure
But really, how much worse could it get?
He definitely wants to make himself an emperor, and with that comes real danger,
Including those who are lucky enough to live in civilised countries outside the US
'Murica exports wars, both cultural and military, to the detriment of us all
They only need to get lucky once.
Ok this might be my new favourite conspiracy
Our universe is a simulation created by a group of facists that are using us to research how they can gain and maintain power. If a successful fascist regime takes hold then the experiment will be over and the simulation will be shut off, the only way to survive is to continue to fend off fascisum.
I don't think it's at all likely. Trump knows he's hated, and he isn't about to go and do a parade in a convertible. More importantly, the secret service knows he's hated and know they screwed up huge in letting someone take a shot at him, so they've dialed security up to 11.
Reagan and JFK were shot at a time when they had extremely high approval ratings. It was probably harder for the secret service to stay focused and for everyone to take threats seriously when that was the case.
This isn't a Hollywood movie where a billionaire can go on the dark web and hire The Jackal or something. If they were to try to place a hit, most of The Jackals out there are probably feds posing as hitmen.
But, let's say somehow a billionaire could find people willing to make the attempt. Trying to assassinate the US president is a suicide mission. If someone tries to do it as a lone gunman, they're going up against the entire secret service. They may get the attack in, but they're almost certainly not going to get away. If it's a group of attackers, the more people, the more communications, the more communications, the more opportunities for the NSA to spot them.
And, this is one time we don't have to worry about nation-states attacking the president. The US is punching itself in the dick over and over right now. If you're someone who wants the US to fail, you just have to stand by and watch. In fact, if an enemy's surveillance of the US turned up a plan to kill Trump, they'd probably warn the secret service to make sure Trump stays in power as long as possible.
i had a friend in the drama department in college. he was an idiot. he was one of those guys who got older every year but his girlfriends didn't. a few years after we all graduated, we all went our ways. word made it through the grapevine one day because we all got google alerts. he'd been arrested by the feds, and not for statutory like we'd all first assumed. nah, he couldn't get a job after college so he tried to convince an undercover ATF officer to engage in some light terrorism/treason as a way of blowing off steam. funniest thing is, my mom and that ATF officer's wife go on vacation together like twice a year (they lived in my hometown for fifteen years, we're friends).
uh, fuck. i'm sure there was a point to this story. if i remember i'll get back to it.
i'm trying to remember if there was something about my idiot felon friend who i think is stupid enough to get tricked into being a patsy or something about my myopic but wellmeaning fed friend that was relevant. twas one or tother. i'm very tired an [8]. it may take me some time to figure it out.
But what happens when you tell trump how GOOD he would look in a convertible in a large parade?
He'd know what it would do to his hair, he'd never risk that.
"hair"
There's a reason I didn't say "hairs". I believe he has one and it gets wrapped around and around and around and around and around...
No, the secret service did not screw that up. They told the Trump campaign they could not secure the area and the campaign ignored them. Trump is far dumber than Hitler. Hitler had people protecting him and he respected their work. Trump dismisses anything that mildly annoys or inconveniences him. He absolutely will be shot, we just have no idea when or what country will get credit for the kill.
What country would want him shot? He's destroying the US more effectively than any enemy could ever hope to do.
Countries outside the US don’t see it as an enemy, but as a wealthy partner. Having that partner suddenly go insane and lashing out at its friends due to a malignant brain tumour is sad to see. They might well support surgery to remove the tumour in the hope that their former partner can one day recover.
What world do you live in where you don't understand that the US has many enemies?
Sure it does, but most countries see the US as an ally and a valuable trading partner.
Many countries saw the US as an ally, they don't anymore.
You are assuming it's an enemy I was referring to. Trump is really hurting our allies and they are in a dangerous place right now because of him. He's not stopping. He's making other countries vulnerable. the fastest fix for them is if he dies.
The EU, UK, Canada, Mexico + Cartels, Taiwan, Japan...and Ukraine. There are a lot of people endangered by the Trump Regime, and would like this ride to stop.
Hitler, unlike Trump, fought in an actual war. If nothing else, that goes a long way towards respecting the power of violence - both to give and receive it.
A suicide mission might not be as much of an issue if someone's entire life is in shambless due to economic collapse, no healthcare and God knows what else is cooking up over there in the US. I mean, you're prolly very tight that the feds are on top of it, but human life can be pretty squishy, especially for a ca. 80 y.o. man. Someone could leave a carrot on the white house doorstep and he might trip and snap his neck, who knows.
But I'm more curious about the people who lose everything, are getting truly desperate, and have nothing left to fear.
Yeah, people forget that there are entire generations of Americans whose only feasible retirement plans are suicide or homicide
"Trump administration is having early talks to hold a military parade in nation’s capital on June 14" 🙏
Considering how the Trump Regime consistently fires anyone who is competent but DEI or not glazing Trump's asshole, I think an assassin would have an easier time than usual.
It's going to take a while to weed all the competent people out of the secret service.
If we're being real, it's not likely at all. He's probably safer than Biden was.
Not only does the secret service impose incredibly tight security (not perfect, mind you), but Trump doesn't go anywhere except the White House and his shithole golf course.
In order to assassinate him, it would probably have to be an inside job. That seems exceptionally unlikely.
He's also useful. A lot of the kinds of people who might wish to be rid of him back in the day would much rather put him to use for their own ends.
very small... I mean, can you imagine the accuracy needed for a bullet to find his brain?
Martyrdom is an honour that Trump doesn’t deserve. If we are lucky, he will die in prison of old age.
We will never be lucky, so somebody shoot him now
You’re going to have a long list of next in lines
Then they can see Trumps fate as either a warning or a prediction. The maga cult is keeping politicians and judges from doing their jobs with the threat of violence and succeeding. There is no way out until the politicians are more afraid of us then they are of maga. Two more luigis would do more than a week of protests.
I’ll take assassination… it will be annoying to watch people act like he his some great figure but at least the damage he is doing will be over. As far as prison goes … heh … never going to happen. Our justice system doesn’t send wealthy individuals to jail… especially ex presidents.
if we're lucky, he'll be fed into a chipper shredder feet first on live television as a warning to other would-be fascists.
Statistically, he'll die of poor health in the next four years. He's very unhealthy, and very old. Medicine can only do so much.
We thought that when he got covid though.
Some people are kept alive through sheer meanness.
My hypothesis: narcissistic people live longer, because they apply the placebo effect at all times to themselves.
I think it's simply due to stress. Most people care about people other than themselves. They worry about the effect of their actions on others. They worry about not living up to their potential. They worry about letting people they care about down. Narcissists by contrast get to live blissfully ignorant low stress lives. Look at Trump. That bastard has not a care in the world. In his mind, he's already perfect. Notice how the presidency tends to rapidly age people, but it didn't seem to affect Trump? This is why.
Yeah he's golfing everyday
He's stressed doing politics for an hour, so he'll go golf for 4hrs. If anything, he's getting younger.
I agree with your theory that narcissists live longer but I also think they suck the lives out of the people closest to them
Sooo... Narcissists are a type of vampire?
Yes, but not even the sexy kind of vampire
More like the Wraiths from Stargate Atlantis.
You could really be on to something there. It scans
It scans?! Yar, I'll be lootin' this here phrase, matey!
Phrase is free, may simply take, comrade
It's said that the good die young. That orange shitstick might be nearly immortal.
It’s the mean granny rule.
And in that case, access to treatment not available to the general public yet.
I bet it wasn't horse dewormer for him.
So he got the horse rewormer then. I think you're onto something
Keep sending him burgers and fries. Fried in lard too.
If he's got dementia, he'll probably die within 10 years of his first symptoms, and that's been a while. It'll still be too long, obviously.
I'm surprised it hasn't been taken care of already.
There's definitely been a few attempts (though I'm not convinced they weren't false flags)
Something that will really perk up my attention is if people start shooting at his security. That will indicate anger is so ripe that even protecting him makes you a target.
I hear he's planning a parade even bigger than Anwar Sadat's.
It's hard to say. He's definitely closer to it than any president since JFK. But security is way better these days. And before the FBI comes knocking on my door, this is just an objective analysis.
We've already had a shooter with a near miss. So clearly there's the will to do this among some segment of the population. Probably a conservative who feels betrayed or person who is truly far left, (not just a progressive).
However, security during the campaign and for JFK was a lot less than it is now. It's going to be a lot harder to get close enough with a rifle. If you think of a plan the USSS has already thought about it and probably has a counter of some sort.
So while he's definitely the closest, I don't think we'll see another president assassinated unless they do something truly stupid like gut the USSS.
Shitty people seem to be indestructible, like Hitler and the bunker bomb. Stalin died of a stroke (probably).
take out JD. too
Calling it now: it will be one of his MAGA supporters who feels betrayed somehow.
I think he's more likely to have a massive Big Mac Attack and just keel over. Which would be a good thing because his opportunist coattail riders will claw each other to pieces trying to be the top dog, or rat or cockroach. It will frag the whole Magapublican party. I just wish he'd hurry it up. Chow down, Donny boy.
Sadly there have been people who lived to be 99 or 100 while having remarkably unhealthy lifestyles.
Wouldn't really surprise me if Orangeboy happened to possess superlongevity genes. He's always had pretty incredible luck for stumbling out of the way of just about every consequence of his own actions.
He does. His father lived a damn long time and his grandfather only died when he died due to the Spanish flu during and after WW1.
Died during and after the war - that's what I call luck!
Official death reason: assassination
Actual death reason: hit by a golf ball.
That is why Luigi is my favorite character when playing Mario Golf.
What part of the multiverse are you from, friend? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Koch
to be fair, perhaps we are not in the worst of all multiverses. I would say my heart goes out to him, but... you know.
Those parents are a huge yikes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koch_family
I think they were talking about one of the 2 shitty ones dying, David Koch. Isn't Charles the other one?
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/04/08/new-civil-liberties-alliance-lawsuit-trump-tariffs-china/82996118007/
I thought one had passed?
I would love to see it but the real change can only come from dems sweeping midterms.
There is a whole order of succession which empowers the christofascit VP and then christofascist house speaker, christofascist senate leader, christofascist secretary of state, etc.
There is a chance the cult of personality crumbles, but also a chance he becomes a martyr.
The cult of personality won't matter once the Christian Nationalist movement takes hold.
the only way the cult of personality is changing is if they start putting Thorazine in the drinking water
I think by the time we hit 2026 there will be tens of millions who voted MAGA who wish that last year's attempt would have succeeded, but logistically, it's basically impossible now. Anything that might get Trump would probably have to be powerful enough to take out a whole crowd, and that's just very unlikely.
It's also debatable whether it would even be a good thing. Political assassinations always have ramifications that weren't planned for, but on the other hand, Trump is basically a cult leader and cults always shrivel a bit when the leader passes on.
Hard disagree, Ukraine takes consumer drones and turns them into pinpoint bombers or ultra fast suicide drones. They are VERY effective.
IMO the only reason political violence hasn't been more common is people afraid of losing what they have. But they're soon to lose it anyway.
Except for the assassination of Abe, which was a resounding success by any measure. The perp got everything he wanted and more.
President Garfield also got merked. Mostly the fault of an RFK-grade doctor than the actual shooter, though. I hope we get that for Trump - he deserves to die at the paws of his own incompetent administration.
You have said the actual truth
I'd say 100% if there was any sort of karmic balance to the universe.
As much as I hate the guy I hope he isn't killed. The last thing we need is republicans having a martyr, especially before they find out how bad for them he is.
With tariff fallout there are decent chances they will not have a majority for a long time. After the tariff act of 1930 they went from having 14 seats more than democrats to a low of 16 seats out of 96 In senate in just 8 years. After that they had a senate majority once and congress majority twice in the next 50+ years.
I think the Republicans personally hate him. His only use is as a charismatic rabble rouser. Without him they will lose the only guy truly able to get their movement together.
Unfortunately GOPers are too cowardly to do anything about him.
The GOPers won't assassinate him. He is too useful for them to want him dead. Steve Bannon made it clear that his interest in Trump is solely due to his unique ability to command such a following.
No one in the Republican party has even close to that kind of ability.
And Trump has been honing that ability ever since he was a kid. Countless people hated him back then. As a child his classmates couldn't stand him, his teachers found him unbearable, and when he started in 'business' in the 70s writers of the period bashed him as a blowhard who can't deliver anything near his lofty claims.
Yet for all that and despite a massive downturn and series of public humiliations in the late 80s and throughout the 90s, he somehow managed to cultivate the image of a successful businessman... despite having no business successes at all.
He was the perfect personification of what the libertarian movement wanted... wanting 'not a politician, but a businessman' for president. They got what they wanted but still thought the results were great despite it being a complete derailment of the US's soft power in the world.
But he will still have enough people doing his bidding and will follow him to hell and stay there that he will sadly be idolized by millions for many, many years to come. Even going so far as to be a Reagan like figure despite being far, far worse and having no redeeming qualities as a human being whatsoever.
Kinda like Hitler, who held Germans in absolute contempt by the end of the war and refused to allow Berlin to be evacuated as the Soviets invaded. He and other top ranking Nazis even conceded that they were wrong about Germans being the master race and thus deserved the same kind of extermination that they had planned and were carrying out during the war.
With that in mind it legit makes you wonder why the fuck anyone would still admire Hitler... but I did have a Nazi tell me that it is because he made them feel supported and special, so they followed him into death and suffering and they refused to believe he was anything other than their savior. He said the first part, I added the second.
i still wonder. HOW DID THAT ONE GUY MISS?!
Range - Trump was over
300150 yards away from the shooter. Thanks for the correctionEquipment - AR pattern rifles ( I think it was a Daniel defense) with a red dot sight. That setup is for quick target acquisition and field of view. It is not meant for hitting distant targets.
Shooting conditions - The shots were taken outdoors, where there was a cross breeze.
Difficult Target - if you've ever seen trump on stage, he has this weird wobble he does all the time, which shifts his head rapidly and unpredictably from side to side multiple feet. He had to get hit in the head too. He probably was wearing soft body armor at this point, and there are multiple ambulances nearby and he gets priority medical care. Anything less than instantly lethal would not take him out. So it had to be a headshot.
Counter-fire. There are multiple trained and properly equipped snipers guarding trump. There was an armed policeman trying to get on the building with the shooter. This is not simply lying down at a range and taking your time.
TL; DR - it's not like videogames.
He was around 150 yards. Not 300.
But if he had a proper target rifle in a better long range caliber and a telescopic sight he would have had a much better chance of succeeding.
At that distance and wind conditions a chest shot would have been better. But he aimed for the head.
Fixed, thank you.
Chest shot wouldn't work. Like I said, at that point in the campaign, the former president has secret service protection and was probably wearing soft armor underneath. Even then, you would need a hit that is instantly lethal. If you hit the lung, liver, or even a major blood vessel, and he still lives because he has priority medical care on standby, so you would need to hit the heart to get the job done. Heart is smaller than head.
Even with soft body armor. A high velocity round like the .300 win mag or 6.5 creedmoor with boat tail JHPs would still zip through like nothing is there. The cavitation that those rounds make is devastating. Also the shooter tried to go for a follow up shot but missed. Double hitting the chest would have been more possible and that would be much more likely to do it.
I am aware of the circumstances that president's and ex-presidents have in terms of medical support. All of his bodyguards are probably EMT level trained and they probably have a full on trauma team ready. But getting the head under those circumstances would have been tough.
But then again... if he did have a proper target rifle and long range caliber... the head would have been easier to hit and maybe the wind wouldn't have blown it off course as much.
Was he using 300-win or 6.5? From what I heard it was 223 or 5.56.
He was using a .223.
The rifle he used was a cheap, bottom of the line AR-15. The AR-15s are so popular and made by so many manufacturers that they have super low end and super high end. He had on the lower end.
I do not know what kind of .223 he was using. But that round has been experimented with for so long that there is a load for every occasion. He probably didn't use decent ammo. You need something that is specifically designed for longer range, precision shooting. The rounds are much more expensive but you do get what you are paying for.
He also used iron sights. No scope. And he was not known as a particularly good shot. It is actually surprising how close he came.
BTW, the .223 would still have penetrated soft body armor even at that distance. Even military vests designed for combat zones don't stop rifle rounds until it is fired from a few hundred meters. It would not have stopped a .223 to the chest.
probably whatever the cheapest range grade round was. I doubt he went out and bought ammo specifically for that.
He had a 2x optic on the rifle.
Not what I heard. But if that was the case then he was a worse shot than anticipated. He still came VERY close though.
The idiot who looked into an eclipse?
Also all the blood. Then no damage on the ear a few days later. 78 year olds don't heal that fast.
No one heals cartilage. Especially not a 78 year old dottering fool whose primary source of nutrition is McDonalds.
Even if it was a graze and only had skin damage. A 78 year old will have scars and bruising.
Exactly, there's absolutely no way it grazed him at all with no skin damage, no cartilage damage, no scarring.
A bullet never went through his ear. The FBI amended their statement to say he was 'grazed' by a bullet or a bullet fragment, after initially questioning if he had been hit at all (because his medical team withheld all information from them during the investigation - which was unusual and suspicious). I mean you could see plain as day just a few weeks later when he removed the bandage his ear was almost completely undamaged.
that was all for publicity though lmao
Did anyone actually bother to xray his head?
https://nitter.net/RonFilipkowski/status/1832946928142750102
Darkest timeline, am I right?
Highly unlikely and I hope to god it doesn't happen. Imagine the hagiography that would surround the piece of shit were that to happen.
🤞🏻
Time travelers already tried and failed. It's a fixed point in time.
He certainly has a lot of enemies but I don’t think it’s likely with his upped security being President again. I still can’t believe we were an inch short of a Trump free world…
He’s not going to do any more of those mass rallies so long as he can get his narcissistic supply somewhere else.
He's literally ordering a dictator-style parade for himself.
Gotta also consider the odds that he's not there for much longer anyway. The Project 2025/Heritage Foundation people got JD Vance in as VP as they wanted--he's one of them.
So I've been predicting since he won that the 25th Amendment will be used (if something else doesn't happen to him), probably not until after the midterms so Vance can still run for 2 more terms. They need to set up the right conditions before ousting him, which will be making him look physically incapable of continuing, like saying he's had a stroke or something. Congress/Senate has to believe it so they'll go along with it.
My hope the shooter is a Big Mac.
Praying every day to gods I don't even believe in.
It's okay they don't believe in you either
I would question their omniscience if they did.
God please no. We dont need him to be a martyr.
When the rule of law has been abandoned then frontier justice makes an appearance.
He'll probably succumb to his lifestyle choices first. He might even get bird flu or a virus long thought eradicated. It would be really tragic if it was something climate related like his Florida home sinking into the ocean.
He is messing with rich peoples money now so I’d say that’s pretty risky.
I was watching an amateur video of him, not 500 feet away, on a golf course a few weeks ago. What do the kids say? Cooked? The last guy who almost got him by a few inches was a registered Republican btw. Of course it's more likely that he dies to double cheeseburgers now. Sad that the ones who will replace him are arguably much worse than him.
If it didnt happen last time, and a close yet unsuccessful attempt was made this time. My money is on, Trump lives to start harping about a third term in 2028.
If it happens, its going to be a gavrillo princip type of deal, the more planning that goes into it, the more likely the conspirators get caught simply for the amount of surveilence that goes on in this world.
if anyone is going to merk a world leader. its going to be something spur of the moment, wrong turn, wrong person, wrong time.
The way history likes to repeat, it'll be something stupid involving a sandwich
Donny dumps wanted dunkin donuts and didn't expect a hole in his head?
Some damned foolish thing in the Balkans
See my money is Krasnov going out like Elvis
Unlikely any bigger conspiracy or billionaire will try. They could wait 3.5 years and not have to bother with anything illegal.
MAGA candidates don't seem to do well without Trump, so even if a republican wins it's unlikely to be whatever this is.
If he is somehow allowed to take a dump on the constitution and get a 3rd term, maybe.
3.5 years assumes Dems have anyone who could beat him in an election. I have my doubts on that.
3.5 years assumes there will be an election at all, or a fair one. They rigged the last one, they will definitely rig the next one.
But I don't think he'll take the chance. He was heavily hated in 2020, and if anything, he is already hated even more. The mid-terms are shaping up to be a blood bath. He can't afford to lose his congressional majorities in either house, and have Dems take over even one of them, or they'll control investigative committees with subpoena and arrest power. And this time they will be much more heavily motivated to be aggressive. Americans wanted bold action from Biden, and they didn't get it, which kept the 2024 race close enough to steal. I just saw Adam Schiff in an interview, and he indicated that the Dems recognize that they didn't act "boldly" enough, and they suffered at the polls for it. It sounds like they may have learned their lesson.
So he will create a situation in which he can declare Martial Law and suspend elections, and he'll do it before the mid-terms. My prediction is that it will happen next year, in late-summer/ early fall, after a Hellish summer of violent protests around the country, that he will instigate. He will time his announcement close enough to election day that there won't be time to get it through the courts, and we will skip a mid-term election for the first time on history.
Dems will scream, but they never actually DO anything, so that will soften up the citizens to accept it when he skips the presidential election, too. Then he doesn't have to justify why he deserves a third term, his second term will just never end.
He may even start a war (you know he's itching to do that) to justify keeping Martial Law, and claim he's only doing what FDR did, and not leaving while a war is going on. That's not what happened, FDR was fairly elected 4 times, but that's the excuse he'll use, and the MAGA Nazis will accept it.
Unless something changes, he can't run again.
He just said there are ways and I mean he could run as vp and then Pres could resign etc. so yeah I mean he can’t “directly” run again.
Apparently, any and all blatantly false national emergency declarations just sail right through any checks and balances. Martial law is just as easy. Surely a fentanyl tweaker Mexican anti fa supporter will be accused of rape at some point.
It's important to note that even in that scenario, he's limited to a total of 10 years. If he would take over from a VP position, he could exceed 10 total years as POTUS.
Whatever "limited" means in the current state of things is another question.
He is also be 81 by then.
I fully expect him to try to change something, pull some underhanded thing like the VP switcheroo, or even try another insurrection (why not, he wasn't punished for the last one? ) but as of right now he can't run again.
Yeah, as if he thinks the rules apply to him, even the Constitution. Even if he were to somehow lose a heavily-rigged election, he would just pull a Maduro, and simply refuse to leave the White House. It's doubtful that anyone would do anything like physically drag him out of the White House. He would just stay there as the Dems dragged it through the courts, and then he would ignore whatever unfavorable decisions the courts make, and the Republicans in Congress would go along with it.
You're absolutely right that, if he is, it will probably be an inside and/or professional job, not some rando trying to show off for an underage Jodie Foster. He's pissing in some dangerous people's weeds right now.
Pretty low, considering the quality of the attempts so far.
Third time's the charm.
Wouldn't that be a Reichstag fire 2.0
Yep, expect that. I bet thet they are working on that, choosing right "target".
I can imagine JD vance declaring martial law, suspending democracy and eliminating the "rebellion"
Sportsbooks aren’t allowed to take bets on illegal activities so we may never know
Wow, it had gotten so bad, huh? For once, the market is genuinely correcting itself!
May the Lord look down upon us in favour.
Even my Trump loving coworker thinks he's psychotic now.
If he keeps pissing off China, maybe.
The left takes more of a peaceful protest and hope for midterms approach.
It's probably pretty low. The secret service was already caught with their pants down once when that guy took a shot at Trump over the summer, so they're probably going to be on high alert for a while. On top of that, Trump is better protected as the President than a candidate, with access to the White House, Air Force One, the Beast (his Limo), etc. There are probably more people who want to take a shot at him than other Presidents, but I doubt it's gonna happen.
a large enough mob could pull him out of mar a lago. i'm not saying it would be easy.
Have you seen the robotic dogs waundering that place?
But, you're right, a large enough mob could break into anywhere.
true just wage an insurrection against mar a lago, lmao, it's all legal anyway, it's just a "protest"
/s ofc
I'd say there's zero chance, he could probably easily outlive us all somehow.
I'll be honest, seeing this sudden shift to openness talking about this when knowing how controlled the narrative is even here, makes me think this might actually be part of the narrative they're now trying to push.
I could definitely be wrong about that, but I've seen this brought up here a few times and even last night there was an AskReddit about what Americans would feel is the final straw to have Trump removed from power.
I actually was talking about this in a post a few days ago. If Vance suddenly succeeded Trump as president, it would not fix anything, and it would likely make things much worse
Pretty likely. The chances of getting assassinated are essentially dependent on two things:
how easy would it be
how many people want to make it happen
I believe that there's enough of the second to more than compensate for the first.
Based on how the first attempt went, I feel like “how easy it will be” isn’t going to be too much of a roadblock either
Would need an insider that turns. That person has to accept death as the trade off. You'll be hard pressed to find anyone that fits that situation.
Nah he chokes on KFC
You just reminded me about when Bush almost choked to death on a pretzel.
Well, considering he was an inch or two away from already being in this category, I'd say higher than otherwise. You can also say that since this DID happen, he will have increased security making it less likely. So, I guess I'm not too sure.
I mean hey I pray for his downfall at my bedside before I lay down to rest at night maybe that'll get him eventually.
Shhh! We don't know if there might be some plan in motion!
He should stand in front of a high window and contemplate the possibility.
Hopes and prayers.
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I perfer him to die from the bullet of his own in a bunker (or natural causes after creating a great recession), so that people can stop worshiping toxicity and learn from the mistakes.
If there is no Hoover, there probably will never be a Roosevelt and the new deal.
As long as he doesn’t try to make peace with Communist nations, our MIC won’t kill him like they did to JFK*.
I'm not sure if he'll get unalived with funny prejudice, but if I had to give pointers, don't aim for the head, it's unlikely to hit any vital organ in there.
He is certainly one of the most likely to die in office. Just on a purely actuarial basis, I should think.
What do the gambling markets say?
Whatever crypto bros pay for.
If youre in america, even as a tourist a few states allow you to buy guns because you dont need an id. That means, lets say a european goes to georgia for example, they could buy a gun and shoot trump without problem, in minecraft of course.
FFL dealers can only sell to residents of states in which they are licensed to operate. It is unlawful for a resident of one state to sell to a resident of another state, without involving an FFL dealer licensed in the receiver's state.
In Australia that was the case until around 1987. No permits for rifles. Some tourist from Germany went to Australia, bought a rifle and went on a shooting spree.
As an American, the craziest thing about that story is that Australia changed their gun laws after that happened. Imagine a government taking reasonable action to save lives.. Wild.
Like all the car crashes that now require us to get a driver's license…; can't mow down the government if you're trained on the rules of the road!
People can't just use tools that impact the lives of others outside themselves in peace; smdh…
Luigi used a ghost gun.
Some kid tried that from a rooftop already
Wrong
Just ask the Simpsons. They are like a modern crystal ball.
Trump diskussed the tariff plans in 2023. Billionaires agree or they would have financed the Democrats much more.
https://www.un-diplomatic.com/p/the-newsletter-that-forewarned-of
My bingo card/wish list - Trump gets tied up in litigation/impeachment (first pres to be impeached 3 or 4 times...bring it!) until he is out of office (I suspect his Outlook is already set that way). Then, after, nobody says his name ever again because...let's face it, everyone is just plain embarrassed that it happened - (R)'s (D)'s, even whack-a-doo (Others ... independent, green, what are those guys that think that everything is transactional...forget).
Not enough.
Depends how hard you’re willing to try. (/s, for legal reasons)
I really hope he doesn’t. Trump fucking sucks but JD Vance would ramp it up 2 fold
pretty unlikely, but two people have already tried...
So i guess we can't leave cards off the table. Just needs the correct moment, and opportune time, which is going to be a huge pain point for any would be attempter. If there are any, they're likely to be like the first two.
Not to mention we would have JD vance as president at that point, and honestly, i have no idea what happens after that.
There have already been attempts. Maybe the next one will succeed.
It wouldn't be the first time the CIA has dealt with an american president.
Not likely enough
he surrounding himself not with loyalists only but also cowards
By Kennedy probably if they havent all had their jabs
He will die of a heart attack within the next year, but it will be ruled as "natural causes".
That would be a natural cause. An elderly man dying of a heart attack is pretty natural.
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Considering how badly he is fucking up corporate and international interests, I think the parade being a JFK moment is likely. If so, I will buy a bottle of Martinelli's and some takeout.
Billionaires love this guy they’re buying the dip and he’s dismantling the administrative state
Death from "old age" is more likely.
It could have been "by snu-snu", but Stormy Daniels failed us...
When that happens y'all are gonna need video proof that you last fucked your couch less that a week ago every time you leave home.
Not nearly enough
Sic Semper Tyrannis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KivCRqfFcqY
Why would a billionaire be angry at Trump?
If there is a god, super fucking likely.
A better question would be is it even possible to do in the first place?
And two attempts on Gerald Ford - Squeaky Fromme and Sarah Jane Moore
Highly unlikely. The arms dealers are on his side.
I don't want that. Trump just need help to make good decisions. Until he finds it - he should not make any decisions by himself. Use the kongress where the different parties votes. And please Trump. Don't come up with any more ideas - you have already made too many decisions.
Well, it’s pretty likely that Kennedy was assassinated by Israel. And Trump is infinitely loyal to Israel. So if it happens, it won’t be in the same way.
But if people really want to make the world a better place, they’ll start with the billionaires who are pulling the strings.
It seems much more likely that he'll genocide millions of palestinians... among other things.
And even if he's killed, the next person will continue the genocide. Bi-partisan support.
Stupid useless post. Not happening at this point.
CIA with Israel killed JFK. Israel picked Trump as the most supportive of genocide. It's fair that every other politician would still support it, though perhaps not as far as a war on Iran.
The CIA is a "US Corporatist global champion deal facilitator". But Trump has picked loyalists at the top of intelligence and military apparatus. Unlike the past, where best people, defined as pure warmongering evil devoted, had these jobs, current batch of diaper licking appointees lose their jobs if "crazy daddy" impeached/exterminated from policy relevance.
So none of "JFK's checks and balances" apply today. Russia war not as important as maximum zionism.
Yeah, I'm gonna that claim
It's made up bullshit with zero evidence.
JFK movie, Oliver Stone, got a lot of it right, with mob cutouts including Jacob Rubenstein. The Israel motivation is the threat to force zionist supremacists to register as foreign agents, and disapproved of Israel's nuclear program. Global peace rhethoric, and lack of full war on Cuba, Laos, Vietnam made a lot of other enemies within US.
The obvious coverup of the assassination, was not to protect a small gang of agitators where involvement would end, unless they could rat out higher ups.
Sure would be great if they released that information alongside the Epstein list... oh wait...let me check.. nope, still just dangling the distraction carrot.
Your citation is a movie that you think got it right.
Ok then
Why would Israel want JFK dead?
Jesus, I ask, "why is autocracy bad" and it gets removed. Yet, they let this FED bait wash over the community. Get fucked.
"The first since Kennedy"
Why not "the second ever"?
Edit: Today I learned that more US Presidents than just Kennedy got shot. I still think that the half eaten yogurt I left in my locker over the summer of 2007 had a richer culture.
Because I assume they passed basic history
Yeah we don’t really learn about American history over here. We learn about the Azteks and Inkas, but that’s about it when it comes to the Americas.
JFK was #4
People call the Trump supporters a cult, but this whole thread is calling for an assassination on the sitting president.
Actual comments in this thread:
"Third time is the charm"
"If there is a god, super fucking likely"
"One can hope"
Nothing cult like about that behavior 🤣🤣🤣🤣 just one cult arguing with the other cult.