FBI offers $50,000 reward for information about gunman who killed UnitedHealthcare’s CEO
Summary
The FBI is offering a $50,000 reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of the gunman who killed UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson.
The gunman, who arrived in New York City on November 24th, shot Thompson on December 4th outside a hotel hosting an investor conference.
Investigators believe the gunman, who concealed his identity with a mask, fled the city on a bus, leaving behind a backpack in Central Park.
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So the cost of an asprin, a bandaid, and 3 jellybeans in a US hospital?
Doesn’t even include ambulance ride. City EMS is out of network for UHC
We had to pay a $2500 fee for the ambulance because my spouse got hit-and-run by a car outside of the county that we live in.
Only if your not denied (☞ﾟヮﾟ)☞
They're gonna frog boil it and end up fucking it up.
100k from the start might have gotten someone to say something that would pay off.
But they're being cheap and are going to slowly walk it up as I go gets less and less useful and a movement if not giving a fuck grows.
Hey, nobody ever claimed the FBI was good at doing its job.
Woah, the FBI is amazing at causing controversies, such as violating civil rights, unnecessary shoot outs, politicized investigations, and more!
That doesn’t seem like it’s enough money to pay an enormous hospital bill.
So 0.5% of his reported $10+ million annually compensation package.
Interesting that neither his colleagues nor family are chipping in to make this larger.
Why would they? That just eats into their profits. It doesn't make them richer.
Yup. Dudes body was still warm on the pavement outside and they still had the conference like our was a normal Tuesday. The wealthy are disgusting people. Rotten all the way to the core. They actually think they are the reason society functions.
They are in for a rude awakening. Trump is going to destroy what ever remains of the middle and poor classes, and in response we are going to eat the rich.
50,000 dollars is how much the fbi thinks people to turn on each other for
They'd have better chances if they offered the former CEO's one month's pay.
I mean yeah. That’s the going rate to sell one’s soul.
If it was Elon Musk do you think they would still pretend he only made $1 as a salary?
I think they'd publicly wave around a vague concept hinting at the potential sum, then if the shooter was caught, they'd really come out and give a $1 reward to a whistleblower if only just to make a mockery of the concept.
Sounds about right. The peasants do what the rich want because the rich think everyone should do what they say and the peasants think they will get rewarded. Neither is true.
A $1 reward would just be the punchline.
The fbi is now on the case for a murder of a man on the street. They wouldn't pull these resources for any other murder.
This is a joke.
But he was white and rich. The people who pull the strings can't feel vulnerable.
5X upgrade in bounty from $10K offered by crime stoppers. Investigation must be drying up. Probably be up to 6 figures by end of month
The longer it takes, the less likely they'll find him no matter how much money they put up.
But I thought the NY mayor said they “know his name” [yahoo]. 🤔
Hey NYPD, his last name is Ligma!
Right as the look a like contest was being held.
Even if the FBI does catch this guy, the Feds are still gonna have a helluva time trying to cobble together an impartial jury, not to mention alternatives. One question will eliminate a large portion of the jury pool...
"Do you currently, or previously had UHC as a health insurer?"
I could see this case having a hung jury or even seeing jury nullification occur - though it's highly unlikely for nullification to happen.
The Feds will put ungodly amounts of pressure to accept a plea deal.
Edit: added the missing 'y' to 'currently' and added a space between 'previously' and 'had
Or they'll make sure they don't get him alive, like they did with Michael Reinoehl.
Ya, that is sadly the most likely outcome of all.
It'll send a message to the masses that you won't get your day in court for crimes against the ruling class, but you will still get a sentence... a bullet.
Time to hodl the info.
Isn't it fucked that they're doing this for this guy just because he's rich?
We are all created equal. Some are created more equal than others.
+1 for the Orwell reference
They're doing it because the guy on the run crossed state lines. That makes it federal, so the FBI has jurisdiction and it's easier for them to work cross-border than the NYPD. It's getting more resources because it's a highly publicized case. I'm sure there's some pressure from some wealthy and/or powerful people as well to find whoever did it, but it's not surprising that the FBI is involved now.
And surely they offer $50k every time they believe a murder suspect has crossed state lines, right? Every single time?
They offer money for a lot of cases, yes. Up to 5 million for most wanted.
https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices/newyork/news/up-to-5-million-reward-offer-for-information-leading-to-arrest-and-or-conviction-of-ten-most-wanted-fugitive-cryptoqueen-ruja-ignatova
Did you misread my question, or...?
Naw. They offer $5k for every fugitive and are involved in every case that crosses state lines.
Unless you mean the exactly 50k part, in which case they could just put him on the most wanted and make it 5 million because rich people. Hey, who knows, maybe they will.
Thanks for info
Yes, but also completely fucking unsurprising.
Can someone give context, is this the same reward that's given for the other about 800 murders that happen each year in New York or is that guy getting special rich guy privileges beyond his death?
I just checked the NYPD's most wanted list:
... Please feel free to draw your own conclusions about this CEO manhunt.
What.... did the car.... do?
Human Trafficing.
The $3,500 is for the car, right?
The payout for every tip they have listed is $3,500, so at least they're not singling the car out.
What do you think?
Very first thought I had.
Nope. Still not snitching. Fuck that ceo.
So you know something?
...No...
Request denied.
Society is offering $50,001 to shut the fuck up.
Ill not talk, wheres my $50,001?
You'll get it in healthcare reimbursements after the other CEOs drop.
you could use that $50k to pay for one night at the hospital that your insurance won't cover!
Or a few months of the medication that works for you but insurance will only cover the shittier alternatives.
Maybe someone will talk when they offer better insurance coverage.
Also, many times reward money isn't paid due to 'reasons', like "yeah you gave legid info which led to the arrest, but we got the same information through other channels too". You get your reward money rejected like it's your insurance claim.
Yeah people don't realize they reject paying out reward money the same way insurance rejects paying to keep people alive.
You only get it if you directly lead to the correct arrest and that they feel they absolutely couldn't have gotten the arrest any other way and they will always pretend they could have done it without you. It's liberals after all.
Cops are liberals now?
"Hey guys, what if instead of a class war we just kept saying derogatory things about each other while the 1% laugh at us?"
How about liberals stop moaning when other members of the working class try to respond and get stuff done and they just complain that people didn't elect a person to stop all the bad things from happening for them?
Who's doing that? I'm not seeing that. All I'm seeing is you trying to shift the conversation from "billionaires bad" to "liberals bad" for no apparent reason which is exactly what the 1% want.
I've apparently pushed a button so I'm gonna assume you associate with the title.
Yeah I'm not gonna bother but the liberals are the people that didn't let the US run a candidate that said anything bad about billionaires and sided with the economy, and have since after blamed people of minorities, and wine loudly when people point out their hypocrisy and lack of action.
The petite bourgeoisie won't let us get even close to the real ones while they state we have to do things their way.
I'm fine with saying fuck billionaires and will be happy to keep working towards their end, I'm just not gonna hold my tongue about who isn't on our side.
Procedes to bother for 3 paragraphs
I'm not black either, but if somebody randomly decided to blame black people for the system being bullshit I'd call that out too and tell them "you're directing your anger towards the wrong people."
Groups asking other people to put in the work to make them money or do their job faster? I mean the insurance companies that pretend to be helping people sure are and honestly how cops operate lately yes. Almost like they have unequal treatment of others based on how useful they think they are to society and it's ability to generate more wealth?
Leaving it up for someone else to solve is very liberal if nothing else.
Could cops and billionaires be the problem?
No, the liberals are to blame.
The amount of grief and strife this man caused to countless families through the actions of his corporation are beyond calculation.
50k won't even register.
I was driving through rural Tennessee today and I’m pretty sure I saw him at a gas station.
I have a friend in Iowa who said the same thing.
Man this guy really goes places
New conspiracy theory. He is big foot
Patient creature this big foot, waited for the right time in the woods, shaved it all off and came incognito to NYC.
I saw him in Outer Mongolia today.
$$$
The police
They suspect that the shooter might not have been a cop.
Cops exist to protect capital, not people.
So they went from .02% to .14% of his yearly take 🤣. They must not care very much about finding this guy
Another way to look at it is them trying to pit everyone against each other. "How much money will it take to get the 99% to turn on one of their own?"
lol my first instinct with police is that even IF you snitched and they caught the guy, they probably wouldn't pay you and weasel out with some fine print.
Or worse yet, it'll be some shit like "Hm, how did you know it was him? What are you hiding citizen? Bend over for the cavity search!"
How much do they usually offer for a normal person's murder I wonder.
Thoughts and prayers
Not much
Even low balling people on the fucking reward money. Cheap fucks.
I saw him get on a submarine in the great lakes. They should concentrate their search in the waters.
This actually made me lol
The search is likely bad for the environment so I hope the police work from home to save on energy usage.
Nothing to see here, officer, move along.
Please move along sir!!!
Stop resisting!!!
If I was rich I would counter offer 55k to not squeal.
I didn't squeal, and I can prove it. I haven't even been in contact with the FBI! Now pay up.
Besides the obvious issue above, I'm also pretty sure that it would be obstruction of justice.
ME: Obstruct Deez Nuts, your honor.
JUDGE: "Fuck this guys good, NOT GUILTY!"
Offer some Universal Healthcare maybe.
With all claims pre-denied? Hardly worth it.
Preferably the one you hate the most. For example Tesco. In my country they as much as doubled the prices without their Clubcard, and they have these "discounts" on almost all products. I haven't been there as a customer for quite a while. Most likely over a year or two.
But it's also a bit personal.
They schedule inventories in the shop overlapping with the opening times. Now, this isn't just the mistake of Tesco (we are a different company), but they do decide on the times. What I mean by in-shop is not in the warehouse, but actually where the customers are.
We are required to be accurate, sort the products on the shelves if there was a mess and face it. This is then checked by someone else. Facing needs to be done well, but slight inaccuracies in counts are accepted (1 or 2 items). Your speed is also measured, by the way.
This is all OK, except that now there's customers to fuck with it. They can take items, put them back, or just make a plain old mess. Plus you can't guard all the shelves. Because of that, I was shocked when I was in Tesco like this for the first time. "If the customer takes something, ask them for barcodes and count of each item they're taking, write those down on a piece of paper and report them to me."
So... you'll give me a piece of paper, right? RIGHT? (no.)
Imagine that as a customer. Let's say you take a few pens and are about to put them into your shopping cart, suddenly someone very much not from Tesco runs up to you "WAIT!! Can I see the items first? I need to write down the barcodes. Is this all you took? Ok. Um... do you... do you have some paper? No? Shit, please wait here, I'll be right back! (One eternity passes) ..."
THANKFULLY, I avoided that. There were only 2 parents who talked about having to buy some of those plastic book covers ASAP as the school year was just starting, but my scared and startled look, probably/hopefully looking like "Please don't take those. Please...", made them change their minds. I've heard one of them say something like "It's busy here, let's not bother them. We'll try elsewhere."
I assume this discourages a lot of night-time customers. But I'll be fair, Billa also schedules such inventories.
I watched videos of the FBI and their technology, but apparently all it takes to avoid them is to leave your phone behind, cycle with monopoly money and wear common inconspicuous clothing that covers you up? The fuck happened
It turns out most if not all of the advanced policing technology that gets touted is, you know, lies. They just want you to believe you can't get away with it. Just look at how many godawful propaganda CSI shows there are - how often do they rely on magic databases containing the location of every flower shop cross referenced by geolocation and joined to the magic database of endangered beetle habitat? That's a real example btw, bones is a terrible show.
Having worked with the police, the #1 way to get away with a crime is to just not tell anyone you did it. That's it, that's the whole secret.
And what people don't understand is that if police choose NOT to use said technology because the case isn't "worth" the money or they just don't care.
Open Street Map has entered the chat
I wish it was that good. Hopefully someday.
CSI:
“Enhance image! Enhance image! Enhance image! Enhance image! Enhance image! There! Whaddya know? That image looks just like that guy we already have in holding for being homeless”.
Leaving your phone behind is a real killer for them
Duly noted, will not say anything incriminating here that the jandarma could catch but...
What’s this about monopoly money?
They supposedly found his backpack and it had a bunch of monopoly money in it lmao
How much for information related to literally any other unsolved murder in the US?
Can anyone give even a bad reason for a reward this high that doesn't involve the wealth of the target? Just for the sake of it, I'll take even the most tortured argument that doesn't relate to the fact that he was a CEO.
Easy. It makes other powerful people feel uncomfortable that this could happen to one of them.
They know they can get away without justifying this disproportional response.
The case is now extremely high-profile, so the longer it goes unsolved the more embarrassing it is for the agencies investigating. (Good.)
Actual answer, that isn't a circle jerk? $5,000
https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices/washingtondc/up-to-5000-reward-for-information-about-violent-crime
But it can go up to 5 million for most wanted.
https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices/newyork/news/up-to-5-million-reward-offer-for-information-leading-to-arrest-and-or-conviction-of-ten-most-wanted-fugitive-cryptoqueen-ruja-ignatova
Damn, $50,000 - Gov really don't like the idea of someone being able to kill a rich person and getting away with it
I thought NYPD already knew who he was.
I believe i heard his name is Sparticus...
Surprisingly common name, that.
I ain't see nothing.
This wont even pay for most surgeries that UHC denies regularly.
So what's the justification for the feds being involved? What other state is involved other than NY?
they lost track of him at a bus station so I guess they;re using that as a flimsy pretext to pass the investigation off from the famously incompetent NYPD.
The FBI isnt much better.
Agreed but they are the only manager the spooked elites could find to speak to.
Maybe the idea is that he moved out of state?
Don't they get involved in pretty much any high profile crime if the local police force asks for their help?
FBI investigative authority includes federal crimes that cross state lines, public corruption, civil rights violations, and national security matters, among others. -per DDG.
I'm guessing their claim is it's crossed state lines.
Nah, all CSAM incidents go straight to the FBI. It doesn't need to be cross State lines
The comment you replied to was referring to this particular murder in that last sentence. If NYPD have some evidence that the shooter fled across state lines, that is likely the justification for the FBI to get involved .
Well at least it's more then my deductible now
Well the FBI is about to be shutdown in a month, so
How many pieces of silver is that?
Way more than 30, I know that much.
How many pieces, adjusted for inflation?
I was surprised to find a whole Wikipedia section dedicated to this but to answer your question, from $100 to $488 depending on the type of coin used according to today's silver prices.
I thought it was OK to Cross State Lines with Weapons? Or is it only OK if you Kill Poor Democrats?
I have information.
It's all untrue, I just want $50k.
It's still information, tho.
Is it? According to the Oxford dictionary, information are “facts or details about somebody/something”. Wouldn’t that make false information technically not information?
I've seen that gunman --he has an absolutely dazzling smile. $50k pls 🫱💰
False facts are still facts. A fact is anything that can be proven true or false. The opposite of a fact is an opinion.
Edit: I just learned a "fact" has to be believed by the person saying it.
Now I'm not sure if I should trust you on that or not...
I understand what you mean. It's a wacky concept to me as well. It seems more of "what a person believes to be a fact" is technically not an opinion.
Just wait until the next presidential administration. Then you can call them “alternative facts”.
Call the tip line to waste resources and make them chance false leads
So like, 1% of his annual salary?
Not even that. He earned $10.2m/year. So $50k would be .49%. Don't miss the decimal point there. $50k is slightly less than 1/2 of a percent of his annual salary.
If he never took PTO and worked 5 days a week and 8 hours a day for the entire year (admittedly, CEOs can frequently need to work more than than 40 hours a week) he would be earning $4903/hour. So this $50k bounty offer represents slightly more than 10 hours of what they pay the CEO in salary.
Ok, this is a much better perspective. And he was "just" a millionaire, now what about billionaires...
This term "millionaire" being synonyms with "rich" really needs to be updated for 2024 with all of the inflation by now. A household that saved $1m by the time they retire at age 65 would technically be "millionaires". That would give the household $81k/year. $81k/year to spend for a household in retirement isn't bad, of course, but I don't think anyone would look at that household and think that the couple living there would be considered "rich".
Now that one is absolutely still "rich" by every measure.
Not rich, but 81k/year is just under twice what I’m making right now ;-;
Then you're making more than that millionaire household (remember thats at least two people), and that's after they've spent their entire life working and saving.
You are more "rich" than those millionaires because you're one person, and likely have decades more to earn increasingly higher salaries and save. For them, its over. That is the most amount of money they have for the rest of their lives. There's no more income from salaries after retirement.
That’s crazy because while livable I wouldn’t call my financial situation super comfortable. Maybe if I wasn’t paying rent though
Housing costs don't go away when you own a paid-off home. You still have to pay for property taxes and insurance in addition to the costs of upkeep on the home. This is part of the reason its so difficult to get ballot measures passed that rely on property taxes. Fixed income seniors aren't getting any more money, and they are trying to make their money last for the remainder of their lives (with no idea when exactly they'll die and it will be okay to be out of money).
They also get to watch their savings drop in value over time as inflation chips away at it.
All of this happens at a time of life when your medical costs are sky high from your body failing from age or treatment to continually treat chronic conditions.
Getting old isn't for the faint of heart.
About $27k per minute for Musk.
Not even close.
I saw him get on a jet ski at Rehoboth Beach, they should concentrate their searches in the Atlantic Ocean.
They should offer free healthcare instead.
Through.....UHC 😨
Maybe if they offered a course of chemo-therapy and cut it off after one round...
They'd probably get tips if the offer were for free lifetime healthcare at the quality he got.
Seems like they don't want to find him. Good on them.
We are all Robert Paulson.
I met him in the woods and he said he wanted to dig the world's deepest dirt hole.
omw to tell them I saw the dude on TV for my 50k
I found him! I found Jesus behind the couch. Oh you were looking for Pete? Don't know man. Try taco bell. He might be getting a chalupa right now as we speak.
So still less than a year's salary for COL in most states that is barely enough for a down payment on most houses.
Nope. No one should grovel and sell each other out for pennies even if I know people will do it for less if desperate.
Is this Xenogears?
They might want to add a few zeroes to that number of they expect to actually get anywhere.
Breaking: FBI now offering $00050,000. Any takers?
Is this a lot? Like what’s the average reward for someone who shoots someone dead in America?
$0
That's the median and mode. The average would be slightly more. If 2024 turns out to have the exact same number of murders as 2023, then $50,000/19,252 ≈ $2.60 per murder.
sure that's the payout but what's the average offered?
at least in my locale, Up to $5000 for information that leads to an arrest/conviction.
Well, considering that Americans have to pay for health insurance in one way shape or form, and it likely comes out of their paycheck every month if they get benefits, no. It's not.
Because we all have to pay an ass load of what we worked for for something we don't necessarily need at the moment, but when we do, we'd really fucking like to.
In 2012 the total bill a relative got for their heart attack (or maybe stroke, I can't remember it was bad) was $2m. Had they not had insurance that covered it, that's how much debt they'd be in. In 2012. Fast forward to now. Yeah, a lot of insurance covers stuff like that. But a lot of people only have the insurance that covers absolutely the bare minimum.
Which is how you end up with people having poor health, subsequent heart attacks, or strokes, etc. Preventative medicine would keep those far rarer than they currently are.
So, no. $50k isn't a lot. Its an insult. It's an insult to the $20k/year people pay for something they can't use. Instead that $20k/year could go to a universal health system where you don't wait until you end up in the ER to get medical care. It's an insult to the people who are saddled in medical debt by denied claims. Its an insult to doctors who give the care a patient needs. It's an insult to the healthy people who understand they aren't invulnerable.
The least I would do it for is 1 million, or a little over 1 single month of his outrageous salary. You would think 1 month of pay is easy to offer.
He is in Washington Square Park, dozens of them!
I just read that it was only half a dozen participants and a couple of dozen observers, but people didn't exactly have a lot of time to get their outfits ready.
I hope to see pictures of that event!
There was no "gunman", Thompson was killed by his own greed. You should arrest him, but you can't because he's dead.
Money please!
It'd be a little macabre, but I feel like it's pretty easy to handcuff a corpse...
Being a psychopath is a preexisting condition to getting murdered so we are going to have to deny that
Where did the FBI get that money? Oh I see.
If I had information about the gunman, which I don't, I'd be genuinely nervous about calling it in because then I'd become enemy #1 in America.
$50k isn't going to keep me safe from the mob that wants to turn on whoever rats this guy out.
Also, I have a suspicion that a jury will be more sympathetic to the gunman than the CEO, so why risk my safety?
I have it on good opinion that he's a white guy.
And he may have both arms. For some reason i feel like thats important.
Excludes rejected insurance claims for lost limbs already.
Dont know the guy.
The FBI should save their money for the potential incoming asshole, Kash.
some mcdonalds nigga in PA snitched lmao
oh good. little bitch just earned a fucking pizza party
Some things money cant buy.
The McDonald's employee who reported him says otherwise.
Ong!
I'm a broke bitch. And I had uhc insurance for around a year. They would deny almost any new prescription I would get for severe insomnia. They wanted to to pay like 400 bucks/month for belsomra. Even though i paid like 450/ month for said uhc coverage. I've had bcbs, bcbs of Oklahoma, kaiser and united and united was the worst by far. Bcbs is somewhat ok
If i saw or had info about the shooter, then no I didn't. What guy? What gun? Nah fam my man's tripped and fell on those bullets
He got out 🙌🏽
I saw him at the Giant near me and we talked for a bit about best places to hide
https://imgflip.com/i/9d1979
Here's some info about the gunman: He's cute.
Now where's my $50000?
Friendly reminder for the future that Trump's FBI won't pay you. Only promise to.
They're desperate