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YSK: you can schedule Apple Card payments from your bank rather than rely on "Auto Pay"

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If you have an Apple Card, you can schedule payments from your bank's Bill Pay feature rather than rely on Goldman Sachs to automatically debit your bank account.

tl;dr you can setup payments to originate from your bank. Follow the steps outlined under "Methodology" heading

Reasoning

You may be asking: "why" would I rely on Bill Pay? Personally, I like to have control on what is debited from my account rather than relying on external parties to "get it right". Many horror stories of creditors, services either "fat fingering" or having "internal system issues" causing auto withdrawal methods to well exceed the amount due [8]. It's honestly up to you. I bring it up here because Apple/Goldman Sachs do not advertise it and find it scummy/misleading. I hope some people find it useful.

Research

Publicly, Apple only publishes these 3 methods of paying your account balance with Goldman Sachs/Apple Card:

  1. Set up automatic payments in Wallet app [1]
  2. Schedule one time payments in Wallet app [2]
  3. Schedule payment using "card.apple.com"

Several discussions on Apple's own discussion forum around this topic all point back to the aforementioned methods of payment [3,4,5]. One of these discussions hinted at the ability to use an external means of payment [3], but ultimately failed to provide any instructions for this.

There was a more recent discussion on this topic [6] and decided to deep dive into this address that was shared:

Goldman Sachs Bank, Lockbox 6112, P.O. Box 7247, Philadelphia, PA 19170-6112

I cross referenced the address with my most recent statement with Apple Card (April 2025) and it does appear to be valid and owned by Goldman Sachs entity. I found it buried in the "Legal" section of my credit card statement:

... Billing Rights Summary

What To Do If You Think You Find A Mistake On Your Statement:

If you think there is an error on your statement, write to us at:

Goldman Sachs Bank USA, Salt Lake City Branch

Lockbox 6112

P.O. Box 7247

Philadelphia, PA 19170-6112 ...

I wasn't familiar with what a "Lockbox" is in mailing address, so I looked it up [7].

What Is Lockbox Banking? Lockbox banking is a service provided by banks to companies for the receipt of payment from customers.

Bingo. So I will use this address to setup Bill Pay.

So, for those unfamiliar with "Bill Pay" offered by most (if not all) US banks. I understand it as an electronic means of remitting payments to creditors (ie, Goldman Sachs) or service providers (ie, your landlord, cellular device provider). However, if payee does not support an electronic means of payment. Then the Bill Pay service will fallback on issuing a check to the address associated with the payee.

So armed with this information, I should in theory be able to remit payment from my bank's bill pay feature.

Initially, I wasn't comfortable with relying on this feature for paying my card on time since it's not even advertised as a method in the billing statement. So decided to do a small test payment well in advance of the due date at end of the month.

Methodology

  1. Get "Card Number" from Wallet app

Wallet app > Tap 💳 icon in top right > authenticate with Face ID or pass code > save the "Card Number" value under "Virtual Card Number" heading

  1. Create new bill payee with following information:

Account Number: replace_with_card_number_from_previous_step

Name: Goldman Sachs Bank USA, Salt Lake City Branch

Address Line 1: LOCKBOX 6112

Address Line 2: PO BOX 7247

Zip: 19170-6112

City: PHILADELPHIA

State: PA

  1. Submit form to create new payee

NOTE: here I was given a quote of 1-2 days for electronic delivery. Gave me confidence this might work

  1. Remit $10 payment to newly created payee

I did the aforementioned steps on 2025-05-09 and observed the following:

  1. Payment scheduled via Bill Pay to be sent on 2025-05-12 and delivered to payee (Goldman Sachs) on 2025-05-14
  2. Debit on account for $10 on 2025-05-12
  3. 2025-05-14 received e-mail and Wallet transaction notification of an "Offline Payment" that was processed

Pros / Cons

Pros

  • take away potential of GS debiting my account beyond what is due
  • increase control of payments to creditor

Cons

  • (at least for my bank) debit on your account happens on the send on date
  • have to manually schedule every month as opposed to letting GS take what they supposedly are owed

References

[1] https://support.apple.com/en-us/102534#autopay

[2] https://support.apple.com/en-us/102534#make

[3] https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252947711?sortBy=rank

[4] https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252716535?sortBy=rank

[5] https://discussions.apple.com/thread/254433851?sortBy=rank

[6] https://discussions.apple.com/thread/255616490?sortBy=rank

[7] https://www.investopedia.com/terms/l/lockboxbanking.asp

[8] https://finance.yahoo.com/news/went-broke-because-autopay-wish-190015131.html

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austin·Austin Texas Communitybymalloc
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YSK: PayPal (USA) is updating their “Privacy Statement” policy to automatically share data about you with retailers. Policy takes effect 2024-11-27. Requires opt out by user to deny sharing

Amendments to the PayPal Privacy Statement Effective November 27, 2024:

We are updating our Privacy Statement to explain how, starting early Summer 2025, we will share information to help improve your shopping experience and make it more personalized for you. The key update to the Privacy Statement explains how we will share information with merchants to personalize your shopping experience and recommend our services to you. Personal information we disclose includes, for example, products, preferences, sizes, and styles we think you’ll like. Information gathered about you after the effective date of our updated Privacy Statement, November 27, 2024, will be shared with participating stores where you shop, unless you live in California, North Dakota, or Vermont. For PayPal customers in California, North Dakota, or Vermont, we’ll only share your information with those merchants if you tell us to do so. No matter where you live, you’ll always be able to exercise your right to opt out of this data sharing by updating your preference settings in your account under “Data and Privacy.”

edit: update title to reflect this is for PayPal USA users

YSK: PayPal (USA) is updating their “Privacy Statement” policy to automatically share data about you with retailers. Policy takes effect 2024-11-27. Requires opt out by user to deny sharinghttps://www.paypal.com/us/legalhub/upcoming-policies-fullOpen linkView original on lemmy.world
austin·Austin Texas Communitybymalloc

Cool Convenience Store Chain Foxtrot Closes All Austin Locations

Official Statement:

Dear Dom’s Kitchen & Market and Foxtrot Customers,

It is with a heavy heart that we must inform you of a difficult decision we have had to make. After much consideration and evaluation, we regret to announce that Foxtrot and Dom’s Kitchen & Market will be closing their doors starting on April 23, 2024. The closure affects 2 Dom’s stores and 33 Foxtrots across Chicago, Austin, Dallas, DC areas. We explored many avenues to continue the business but found no viable option despite good faith and exhaustive efforts.

This decision has not been made lightly, and we understand the impact it will have on you, our loyal customers, as well as our dedicated team members. We want to express our sincerest gratitude for your support and patronage throughout the years. It has been our highest honor to elevate the everyday and create a remarkable shopping experience for people who love food as much as we do. It has been a privilege serving you and being a part of your everyday lives.

We understand that this news may come as a shock, and we apologize for any inconvenience it may cause. We genuinely appreciate your understanding during this challenging time.

We would like to take this opportunity to thank each and every one of you for your loyalty and trust in Dom’s and Foxtrot. It has been an honor to serve you, and we will cherish the memories we have created together. We would also like to thank our team members who have committed themselves over the years to providing a unique selection of quality foods and creating an outstanding in-store customer experience. Lastly, we would like to thank our many partners, without whom we would not have been able to build such a strong brand.

You can access FAQ’s below.

Once again, thank you for your support, and we wish you all the best in the future.

Important dates:

April 23, 2024 – Delivery capabilities are no longer available.

April 23, 2024 – Store operations are no longer available.

April 23, 2024 – Store credits are no longer available.

April 23, 2024 – All customer-facing operations are disabled.

When will the Dom’s/Foxtrot stores close?

Operations will end on April 23, 2024.

When will the Dom’s Go/Foxtrot Apps close?

Operations will end on April 23, 2024.

Will consumers be able to use Foxtrot / Dom’s credits?

All Dom’s/Foxtrot account credit and member perks will expire on April 23, 2024

https://domschicago.com/?utm_source=Iterable&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=campaign_9658007

Cool Convenience Store Chain Foxtrot Closes All Austin Locationshttps://austin.eater.com/2024/4/23/24138371/foxtrot-austin-closed-market-stores-bankruptcy?Open linkView original on lemmy.world
austin·Austin Texas Communitybymalloc

Self or Managed? - Property Tax Protest

Never protested my taxes before. Has anybody here done this in the past by your self? Or have you delegated to one of these companies that protests on your behalf?

Seems the catch is with these companies is that they charge a % of what you supposedly save. But also wondering if the process is “easy” enough that I can get my own appraisal, present that during hearing, and be done with it.

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austin·Austin Texas Communitybymalloc

Concrete truck driver arrested, admitted to consuming cocaine before fatal bus crash

What an asshole. How the fuck did this person have a “valid” CDL license?

TX truly does get washed up talent from other states and countries — from doctors to CDL drivers.

Personal injury lawyers are foaming at the mouth right now. CDL drivers definitely supposed to be carrying commercial insurance. Company hiring this numbskull didn’t do any DD. That company or insurance carrier will be opening up the check book.

2 deaths — 1 adult, 1 child. 40+ children traumatized for life.

https://www.kxan.com/news/local/bastrop-county/affidavit-concrete-truck-driver-admits-to-consuming-cocaine-before-fatal-school-bus-crash/Open linkView original on lemmy.world