I ordered my daughter a pizza, something I don't usually do. I got Domino's smallest size with two toppings. I got her cheese sticks and two sauces and tipped the driver 20%. $31.07.
Note I did not buy any food for myself.
To head off questions:
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No, I couldn't cook for her. I'm suffering from a long-term illness where I can't eat solid foods and am extremely smell sensitive. My wife is at a funeral, so I had to order food.
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She's extremely picky and refused to let me order anything but pizza.
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We live outside of town, in a not very big town, with very few pizza delivery options, and they're all at least this expensive.
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No, I didn't also have to buy her the cheesy bread or the second topping or the sauces, but it's nice to get my daughter a treat and that is no excuse for the order being that expensive.
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We're in Indiana, so this should be ludicrous in terms of pricing. This used to be the pricing I would expect when we lived in L.A. and ordered from a good local place rather than a chain.
Edit: Turns out what I should have been infuriated about is people repeatedly telling me to get takeout and having to repeatedly explain why that wasn't an option, having people not believe I'm sick, and being repeatedly berated for not magically knowing food coupons exist on the internet when I never order food on the internet. Oh right, and also being a bad parent for not forcing food my daughter doesn't like down her throat or starving her if she won't eat it.
By the way, I have another thing to be infuriated about. A huge storm came in and this happened to our trees. I assume I will start being berated for not cutting them down before that happened, but because I have no power or internet at home and have to go to the library to post, your further posts telling me what an idiot I am and how I'm an awful parent and how I'm not really sick will take me a while to read. Sorry to ruin your day. Maybe you'll find someone else to treat like shit.
Anyway, have fun telling me I'm the worst person on Lemmy, just don't expect a quick reply.
Oh, and do tell me how stupid I am for not knowing that people who clear up and fix such damage have coupons on their website.
I felt bad reading this. Fast food is way too expensive here in 2024. And then you had to write an essay justifying yourself because of all the pedantic jerks who love to pounce on the smallest of things.
And someone already didn't apparently read it since they told me I should have picked it up myself.
You seem to think you mentioned that not being an option, but you didn't mention anything about that.
I didn't think it was necessary to mention that I can't drive it home in my car what with the "extremely smell sensitive" part.
A pizza inside a car tends to have an odor in my experience. As does all other hot food. It's generally one of the reasons people like hot food.
"Extremely smell sensitive" just tells me you have a keen sense of smell. Sorry bro, just saying not everyone can read your mind.
TBH that's a logic fail on your part.
In bullet point (1) we have two important statements
Statement A: "I can't make the food"
Followed immediately by the explanation...
Statement B: "I am dealing with an illness that makes me unable to eat solid foods and extremely sensitive to smells"
The only way Statements A and B can be related is via the smell. Being unable to EAT solid foods wouldn't prevent OP from MAKING the food. The only possible explanation is that the sensitivity to smell is what makes them unable.
That's, like, really basic reading comprehension skills. 🤷
Maybe you're making an assumption. Maybe he just doesn't know how to cook?
If that were the case then the other statements within bullet 1 are completely irrelevant, and the relevant information has been omitted. That would be a far greater assumption than taking the statements at face value and connecting the information we have into coherent logic
Maybe you can't/won't read an entire prompt before ejaculating your emotional retort?
You're retro-justifying your mistake, dude; when 'sorry' is just faster.
It's like when you've lost the argument and you're still piping up with "and another thing".
Exactly like that, actually.
Have you never smelled your car after picking up food? Hell I rarely drive but I’ve done short trips where all I’m doing is picking up food and having it in my car 20 minutes max; even the next evening the smell lingers in my car.
In fact my wife had to put carbon-based air fresheners in her car because she’d reheat steamed vegetable then eat them in the car during her lunches at work.
How is this hard to figure out?
I know all about his Mayo Clinic saga and his rare condition. It's important for someone like him to be clear about what's going on, or accept the fact that people are going to suggest things that he can't do. If he's not absolutely clear about it, people aren't going to automatically assume "oh yeah, he must have that rare condition where smelling food makes him feel sick because he said he can't cook and has sensitive smell. It's obvious to me after reading that that there's no way he can go pick up a pizza and not pay $8.60 for delivery."
Most people in this thread, myself included, already know about his thing, but if someone doesn't know about it ahead of time, I'm just trying to make the point that hey, this needs to be spelled out. If it's not spelled out, then don't get defensive when someone responds with an otherwise reasonable comment.
You're lucky squiddy here isn't a mod on this sub or you'd probably already be banned for "trolling" lol
I guess so. Honestly, though, if you have a rare condition and don't want people suggesting things that you can't do, it helps to be clear in your communication.
If you go to a restaurant and tell the server "I can't cook and I'm smell sensitive", they're going to say "Ok, you've come to the right place". Instead, tell them "Unfortunately, if I catch a whiff of food I'll feel sick." Then the restaurant can see if there's anything they can do for you.
I just think most people, if they weren't already aware of his Mayo Clinic saga and his rare condition, wouldn't guess "oh this guy must have that thing where smelling food makes him feel sick" based on what he wrote. Something that rare and, let's be honest, strange, needs to be stated clearly if he really wants people to know about it.
I mentioned the fact that he paid $8+ for someone to deliver food, and his response rubbed me as overly defensive -- "Some people just don't bother reading the original list of 5 items, comprehending each one before commenting on my precious post."
I see this guy around all over the place and he's always getting into slap fights with people over the dumbest shit lol
The dude mentioned a medical disability, stated he couldn't eat solid food or cook and you assume he can drive and then criticize him for delivery? He didn't spell out that he couldn't drive but it was pretty obvious if you read the post... Say sorry and move on buddy. You're in the wrong and look like an incel loser when you continue to double down.
The thing about inflation is the food is not expensive, its the value of money that's gone down. Its salaries that are way too low to afford the new prices. The food isn't too expensive - employees are being underpaid.
It can be both at the same time which is why the problem is so exacerbated right now.
IMHO all that matters is the difference between the two.
Yeah but that's an academic, maybe even a pedantic, difference.
people love acting like they're perfect and always make perfect decisions in these posts. like, you can easily advise the OP and sympathize but people love to be smug instead
Yea, pizza places have gotten out of hand in recent years.
Adding a delivery fee (which doesn't go to the driver) from locations that only do delivery.
How about fuck you and your delivery fee. Which is why I refuse to have pizza delivered any more. Plus they invariably get lost, though we're a few hundred yards from their store.
Little Seizures sells the same pizza for half the price, or less, than Papa John's, before those fees are tacked on.
Little Seizures is my second favorite pizza place after Delicious Aneurysm.
Stroke hut is underrated
Pizza with extra sausage. Hand tossed.
Hard to go wrong with a
$5$9 CAD Hot N Ready.The only LC here is inside a gas station, but I used to love their crazy bread years ago.
I've always been too much of a cheapskate curmudgeon to pay for food delivery and I've been increasingly baffled by people who pay hundreds of dollars a month to have cold, soggy fast food delivered at an eye watering premium.
I get laziness, I really do. For me, personally, going to pick up food is the lazy option.
Completely agree here. If I do order delivery and it’s a third party delivering I always tip a fortune because I know otherwise they won’t care — and yet it still comes back nasty and cold.
I’m kind of the opposite. The only places that tend to have their own delivery drivers now are pizza joints.
I cannot stand DoorDash, the delivery always sucks but I really don’t blame the drivers. The restaurants that say “we deliver” but then offload that shit to DoorDash, take 50% of the tip piss me off the most. And now the food is nasty because some dude in his car is working up a sweat trying to deliver 16,000 other orders at the same time.
I'm sad you didn't use my household's name for the Papa: Poopy John's
The driver still gets an hourly wage, so they still need to pay them for delivering. I don't understand how you expect delivery to be the same price as pick up.
Now compare in-house and delivery. What's a delivery guy but a waiter who won't come back and refill my root beer? Worst waiter ever.
Well, a waiter that brought your food a really long way. Kinda makes up the difference.
Domino's where I am just drop your order at the counter. Does yours have waiters?
Domino's where I am just drop your order at the counter. Does yours have waiters?
they get paid like $2/hr when actually out on a delivery, it's pathetic and is absolutely no reason to justify the fee
The people who order delivery must be subsidized by the pick up customers now?
Because if you pay those wages from the price of the pizza, then everyone is paying for deliveries even if they don't get pizza delivered.
Notice nobody said the charge is too much, they immediately didn't want to pay anything
Notice you said something factually wrong, got called out on it, and pivoted to a different argument.
What? It costs money for the delivery. That's a fact
They don't get paid minimum wage.
They do, except they have a $5.12 tip allowance
If they don't make $7.25 an hour the employer must pay the difference
Why would you need to defend yourself for ordering a pizza and being shocked by the high price? Sometimes I think I've gotten too old for the internet. People should be allowed to order a pizza every once in a while and not have to formulate a 5 point list of the reasons why it's okay for them to order pizza.
If you want to get a fair price at Dominos, you have to play their game. At least look through the website for special offers on pizza, because the "menu prices" are 2.5x higher than the average price a person pays. After that, if you still want a lower price, search the Internet for coupons (although that doesn't work as well nowadays since they use account-locked rewards systems instead of coupons).
Even if you play the game, it will still be more expensive than you remember, due to massive inflation.
I don't go to Dominos any more due to repeated bad customer service, their website malfunctioning in a lot of ways, and the last time I visited the store it smelled strongly like ammonia.
Wow. That's some bullshit, but I'll remember that if I have to do this again.
Usually, there's a coupon that lets you get a medium 1 topping pizza and a stuffed cheese bread (+1 free dip), for $7 each item. That said, I absolutely recommend making your own pizza dough if you have the time for it. Way better tasting pizza.
I wouldn't even be able to get near pizza dough. I can imagine the smell in my head right now and that's enough of the thought of a food smell to disgust me.
Honest question, not a real suggestion, would the smell get through one of those double filter strap face masks for painting? I just don't know about your situation.
I haven't tried it, but I also don't really want to take the chance.
I replicated the order using their coupons. It saved $2, almost $3. But it’s for a medium pizza.
That's definitely better, but still significantly more expensive than it was 5 years ago. Do websites have coupons you can just use before you order? I didn't bother to look. I didn't even know that was a thing.
Yeah, as a person who’s ordered dominoes more than I like you have to start a coupon before you order and it makes it significantly cheaper (specifically the $7 per item coupon previously mentioned).
Also, I highly recommend switching the pizza crust from hand tossed to pan. It’s always been a free change when I’ve done it and the pizza always comes out significantly better. If you’re optimizing it’s also more calories/dollar.
This place doesn't offer pan. Just regular and thin crust.
Large one-topping pizzas are only $7.99 if you order on the Domino's website with their coupon, which is usually located on the home page. Make sure you click "see all coupons" if prompted, because they bury some of them.
I once had a problem picking up an order I'd made online that never went through. They tried to resubmit the order themselves in-store so they could make the pizza on the spot, but the total was almost twice as much without the online coupons. I had to place my online order in the store since they couldn't access those deals themselves.
Bonus, though, is that you can get the extra large "Brooklyn style" for only $10 (instead of $15+ regular price) by up-sizing that $7.99 large pizza for $2 more when you check out.
Source: am kinda poor in a rural area where Domino's is about the best you can get, and buying in bulk is the cheapest way to go.
Speaking of buying in bulk, Dominos pasta is pretty good and filling and refrigerates/reheats much better than the pizza. If you're ever doing dominos, add a pasta on for tomorrow's lunch.
Their “deal” pizza went from $5.99 in ~2010 to $6.99 and now $7.99. I do not remember when the changes happened exactly, but I do remember back around 2010 ordering the pizza at that price when our friend group would get together to watch Doctor Who.
The $6.99 to $7.99 increase happened in the last yearish (I checked an order email from May 2023 and it was $6.99). I only get delivery when I am at work and my wife is unable to bring dinner, but I know the delivery fee has been increasing too.
ETA: went and looked back further at order emails, in June 2022 it was $5.99. My earliest order email is from 2012, and they were $5.99 then as well. So at least 10 years at $5.99.
Edit2: the $7.99 is because of the extra toppings. Medium pizzas are still $6.99 with coupon. I was up way past my bedtime last night, thus the mistake.
Tangent, but please stop using ETA. That acronym is already taken by something important, and saving one character over "edit" doesn't help anything.
Yeah Domino's is one of those places that the price with a coupon, is the regular price. And the food's not terribly worth it even then IMO.
Yeah, Domino's is only worth it if you do the coupon shit right. I got me and my roomie a pizza each, Parmesan bites, and cinnamon twists the other day for $20 + a fiver for the driver.
What's mildly infuriating here is OP... People are trying to explain how you could have saved almost 1/3 of your purchase price and you just argue with them and keep shouting from your soapbox.
Unfortunately, price shopping is a part of every transaction if you are trying to get the best deal. If you aren't invested enough to read the largest banner on the shop website to save almost 1/3 of your total, then getting the best price was clearly not a concern when you ordered. Yes, you are expected to do that yourself, just like buying anything else in the commerce system we have been using for decades. It's real boomer/privileged energy expecting that to just be done for you.
Never order dominos without coupons. It’s exponentially more expensive than anything you can get with a coupon.
Dominos largest profit margins are on orders exactly like this. It’s often more economical to order more food at a cheaper price.
You fucked up by not using the coupons
Edit: sorry not trying to blame you, you wouldn't know they do it this way, but they have extra high prices with really good coupons that are always active and can be used over and over. The best is the mix and match for $6.99.
I'm not downloading an app just to buy a pizza. I have 10 local pizza joints in my town of 17,000 people. Stop buying from national chains.
Well duh. But if you only have a certain amount of money the big chain can be your only option, and in that case the coupons are essential.
Edit: also, there's no reason to download the app besides slightly better tracking of the delivery. Website is still fully functional.
It was $15 for a large (16 inch) pepperoni from a local shop last week here. The shop next door to my apartment has an $18 "King" sized that is 20inches. $21 for a 26x18 field. $6 for cheesy garlic breadNo coupons needed. Extra sauces are $1 instead of 75¢, but they are made in house so i can accept that.
Both are admittedly more expensive than the Marcos 2 doors down from me, and i am not factoring in delivery charges, but not by much and certainly cheaper than what the OP posted here. I might also be lucky because my small college town has a piza shop for nearly ever 1000 residents, so they have to really compete with each other which keeps prices down, and the national chains really struggle against the better local options.
You don't need the app, you can use the coupon via the web site.
You're using Domino's wrong. You have to use the 2+ two topping medium pizza coupon for $6.99 each. They have it plastered on the website and the app.
Kinda shitty that Dominos has it set up so that tip is calculated on top of the delivery and service fees. Tipping on the value of food, I understand. Tipping on the cost of those other fees is double dipping and bad faith in my opinion.
Seriously, "y'all charged me a service fee to deliver my food? Cool! Let me tip you for that!"
Having done time in the service industry, I have no problem tipping where it's warranted, but you're tipping the Dominos corporation for their fuckery at that point, not the driver
I used to work at a Dominos, and their side items have been ludicrously priced for a good while. There's usually a "coupon" in their app with a substantial discount on pizza, it's the only way I'd order from them.
Reading the comments about Domino's coupon obsession, I feel like giving an economics story about when JC Penney said nuts to sales and coupons and nearly went bankrupt.
Corpos in food and retail found that overpricing things then hitting you with deals and coupons caused American audiences to feel like they were getting a good deal. 15 buck pizza for only 6 dollars? Sounds like a deal until you realize that it's really cheap to make thanks to suppliers and premade frozen pizzas. But if they always price it at 6 bucks, you're gonna raise an eyebrow.
What if you don't do that? JC Penney had that idea a few years ago, since their industry basically priced jeans for 100 bucks and then said they were 70% off almost every day. So they tried everyday low prices and... they nearly bankrupted themselves. Lots of factors, but their main factor was their usual clientele thought they weren't getting a deal even though the prices were cheaper than competitors (while not really attracting a new audience savvy enough to know sales are a scam).
Point is, Domino's is in a cycle of coupons or bust. It's a shame you don't have good pizza options at reasonable prices nearby, though, and a shame the good old days of free delivery seem behind us.
I hate how people mix up correlation and causation with JC Penney and it's couponless trial. The company was ALREADY very much on a fast track to bankruptcy when it decided to try removing coupons - that's why they tried it. It didn't make enough of a difference to pull them out of the nosedive they were in.
It's not that not doing coupons doesn't work, it just didn't save a failing business.
Doesn't matter, actually. Now the idea is ingrained in the MBA equivalent of a brain, it will be a generation before anyone tries again.
It certainly wasn't a thriving business, but I don't think it's purely a correlation isn't causation situation. The points about clientele not adapting are probably valid, given the evidence suggests that they lost those loyalists on top of their nose dive.
And yes, it can work if you are consistent. Trader Joes is a good example, they are thriving and haven't once did sales while virtually every other grocer does. Domino's is set in their ways, though, although they'd probably survive if they blundered.
My God if I have to listen to my mother in law brag about how good of a "deal" her $10 (made up "retail", $26) Tommy Bahama hand towels from TJ Max were one more time....
Well, TJMaxx and Marshalls is different. Those items are mostly close out, clearance, etc brought in from other retail chains. So on most things there yes it's some expensive brand you're getting for a fraction. Unfortunately both those stores (Same company) have also narrowed that margin as of the last few years.
Yeah - I’ve noticed Big Lots (similar kind of store) hasn’t been that much better than Walmart or whichever store the items first came from.
Clearance sales also seem to getting worse across the board. My Walmart puts dented cans and packages with missing stuff out for maybe $1-2 off at most.
I feel like all food is moving to JC Penny sales tactics. In what world is a box of cereal $8 but you can get 4 of those same boxes for $9. Same with soda prices. Every other week they run these sales.
Never buy chain pizza at menu price. They all run specials all the time, that are around half off. They keep menu prices high so that they can constantly run buy one get one promos and specials to make you think you're getting a deal. They also happen to gouge people who won't bother checking the deals section
I went online to place an order for pizza recently. Jets pizza. Everything was super overpriced and so one small pizza and 6 piece wings was $50 after tax and fees, not including tip which I usually do $10. So $60 for one person. I scoffed at the price then hit ‘submit’.
I was then hit with the ‘order does not meet minimum for delivery’. They had a $40 minimum which does not include delivery fee, tax, and tip - I was at $38 something.
I almost added some dipping sauce and sent it through but I felt so violated by the $40 minimum which was actually a $60 minimum that I just gave up.
Their minimum saved you from giving their corporate executive a hard earned bonus for enacting that policy
The Jets near me closed. I miss that Detroit style deep dish 😞
The only way to order from Dominos is to use coupons, and even them I feel like I always spent more than I intend to. I remember a handful of years ago they were putting flyers on the pizza box saying that the delivery few doesn't count as a tip. Then what's the delivery fee for???
Not particularly helpful for you, but this seemed like the thread to chime in that in general with pizza, it's always MUCH better to go big. Pi*r^2^, folks. A single 14" Dominos is already pretty much identical to two 10" mediums, and that's only if you like to eat the crust. Always do your math by dollars per area, not diameter.
absolutely. not only that, but it's even worse once you factor in the crust::body& topping ratio.
smaller pizzas have more crust area to topping area. So if you like dry bread, get smaller pizzas. If you like sauce and cheese, get a larger pizza.
i had a kid workin at dominoes fairly recently. the margin is insane, and they were always understaffed. in our area they also pay the least of any restuarant. kids make more working at walmart.
the franchise owner was just a douchebag who didnt care because he knew people would keep ordering.
Also in Indiana. Pre-pandemic you could get two pizzas, bread sticks and a 2-liter of soda for that price.
Right? I moved back here in 2012 and probably last ordered a pizza before the pandemic. This was just shocking.
Skill issue.
Check the deals tab on the website, you could have gotten a medium and cheesy bread for at least $10 less that what you paid for this.
Don't blame the restaurant when you won't even try to save money.
I live in one of Germany's largest cities, and while this is high, it's not outrageously high.
I guess to me what sticks out the most is the expected 20% surcharge for "tips" (that get collected by the bosses indirectly anyways as they just underpay their slaves enough to make up for the tips they're getting). That's not normal here. You tip for good service, if you pay in cash you also tip to round usually, and you tip if there's some other outstandingly positive thing about it. I really hate how in the US it's become so expected to tip, while also having fuck all protection for the delivery drivers, who ought to get a wage where tips are a bonus, not an expectation. It's just a delivery fee at this point, let's be honest.
Although I will also say that since I live basically next door to a Dominos, I always pick up, which is ~25%-30% cheaper than delivery. Plus no delivery charge, but that's based on distance I imagine.
You tipped 20%? If that's the case they're calculating the tip on the taxes and delivery charge as well
I sure don't blame you! If I could cook, she would be getting a cooked meal.
I wish I had your self control, cravings ruin me. But I am trying to be better lol.
A. Should have done the 6.99/7.99 buy two or more deals off the app. B. That cheesy bread got yo ass play. Next time use the app though, that's where all the coupons from the advertisements went. Fr fr bussin 128/10.
National
We order dominos kinda regularly. Check their coupons next time. I can tell you that I'll get a large 5 topping, stuffed cheesy bread and wings for that price or cheaper. And I'm your friendly neighbor to the west, not in a major or midsized area.
This is pretty much true of any of the large pizza chains. Watch the specials, use coupons, take advantage of discounts for things like ordering through the app or texting (because reasons). It's dumb, but you have to play their game to get a decent price.
That said, I can't fault OP at all. Trying to grab a quick meal for a kid means you can't spend the time to piss around and try to get a better deal.
I think it's interesting to see the US cost of living catching up to that of my country (Norway). I've always looked at US prices and envied them, but now I'm just like "Whey! That's a normal price!". Based on what I'm reading I'm guessing wages aren't keeping up in the same manner though...
The issue isn't the prices. It's that the prices go up but income doesn't. Get out the pitchforks, but let's go after the real villains.
And the timespan of the increased cost of everything.
Since the pandemic, construction ply more than tripled in price and isn't going down.
That's insane. Income can't keep up with that.
Your income maybe didn't go up, but this isn't true in general
Curious what shift there has been in full time/part time numbers. Full time wages going up is great for those who are experiencing it, but if there are less actual full timers, is that an improvement?
The art of a good statistician is to make sure what their numbers are saying is an actual reflection of reality. I'm not saying this graph is falsified, I don't know. But numbers can be made to say anything. I learned this years ago in arguments about what "unemployment" meant. It's much more complex than a single number, but a single number is used in the media because it's easier to paint the picture wanted.
More full time jobs
Yes, definitely increased some. Where's the rest of the data, such as part time or unemployed, or even population growth? Like I said, a single number means not so much without context. But it's an impressive graph.
Unemployment is very low
Not really an improvement from 2019, but basically has been around that 4% value for a while
In fact, president Biden noted "unemployment has been at or below 4% for 30 months—the longest stretch in 50 years."
Yes, there is a low unemployment number. As with the rest, you haven't validated that it's a good measure of the current state of things. It's arguably never been.
But itself, maybe not
What am I missing about your point?
Looks like income dropped following 2020 and hasn't returned yet.. am I miss reading?
During the shutdowns there's a compositional effect of lower wage workers losing their jobs.
I'm talking about the difference from 2019 to now, people are making more money even accounting for inflation
That graph doesn't help you, it's cropped
It looks fine on my device, maybe it didn't finish loading?
Click on it?
When I tip the driver in a delivery I literally just give them cash when they deliver (and only if they actually arrive with some promptness, not if they come half an hour late with a cold pizza).
It's a habit I got into when living in the UK because there, like in the US, lots of companies just take the "tip" money and keep it if you tip whilst paying with card.
Granted, I like to pay stuff with cash, both for privacy reasons and because it has actually been shown that people in average spend less if they pay in cash (something to do with the feeling of giving something physical away), so I almost always have some cash to pay and tip.
FYI the value size pizza is almost always the largest one they have.
Dominos is outrageously expensive if you don’t shop the deals.
When I was in college, I’d get dominos with my roommates when they had the 20$ special, which would be about 30$ after tip and delivery. The special had 2 medium pizzas, garlic knots, cinnamon twists, and soda.
After I moved back home, I learned my local dominos doesn’t always have that deal. I’d get something similar to what you got and I’d be upset that I got less food for a bit more…
Now what really pisses me off is the high end neopolitan place near me is cheaper on their dinner special days, where you can get 2 personal pizzas that taste so good I’d accept it as proof that god is real for about 25$ including tips and gas money.
They have small frozen pizzas that are in a cardboard box at places like Aldi's and Walmart. They're good, they actually have crust, and cheap. $8 for a supreme. I just get one of those sometimes.
I also ordered a small pizza and wings this past weekend from the pizza place in my area. $27, for take out. It's like fast food and pizza joints are competing to see who can get more expensive.
Even with an insane 20% tip I don't think you've worked it out right. A 20% tip on the food (because why would you tip on a service charge??) comes to 4.09
Yep. He tipped on top of the delivery charge and taxes. I it was 20% tip button that doesn't isolate food.
Lol that's so bad.
By design, they know most Americans suck at math
20% tip is not insane.
It's double what's standard to tip for good service.
Lol because we expect companies to pay people properly rather than expecting customers to top it up.
Tipping is immoral as it allows companies to underpay. Tipping is anti free market as companies should be competing for staff through their remuneration packages.
The thing I've never understood about tipping culture in general and especially the American culture around it is why some low paid staff get it and some don't.
Why do you tip your food delivery driver and not the guy delivering your Amazon package?
Why do you tip your wait staff, but not your supermarket checkout assistant?
No, because you like to lie to yourselves that you're superior and that your model is what is best and the same as everywhere else is or should be.
It's delusional masturbatory bullshit.
(Speaking from experience as someone who has actually done both jobs) it's primarily because the Amazon driver is paid more fairly... Notice I didn't say they're paid fairly, just more fairly... But also because there's no expectation of interaction with the Amazon driver.
Regardless of your beliefs on morality you don't have some moral high ground to preach to anyone based simply on where you were born and the customs that your culture chose to adopt before you were.
Get over yourself.
If you can tip a delivery driver $4 with a straight face I feel bad for you. $8 minimum for direct-to-doorstep food, regardless of the cost of the food.
You yanks are crazy with your attitude to pay.
I didn’t say I like it, I just said that is the right thing to do.
Only because you live in a country where they don't pay people properly.
Yes, that is correct.
Also the drivers use their own personal vehicles so they experience all the extra wear and tear, fuel costs, more frequent tire and oil changes, etc.
It really is unfair which I why I make sure to tip decently.
I think you are using wrong tool for this problem.
So, you're supporting the unfair system.
I exist within the system. If I want a service which customarily involves a tip, that’s a part of what I signed up for.
Show me the legislation to abolish tipping while requiring employers to pay a fair wage and I’ll sign it.
Until then, if one wishes to receive a food delivery in the US, It’s sort of implied that you agreed to tip.
Giving a shit tip to a hard working poor person because you don’t like the tipping system isn’t the solution imo.
Right thing to do is raise minumum wage.
When that happens, if they raise it high enough to actually do away with tipping, then that’s great. Until then, hard working poor people need their tips.
Preferably in cash.
Depends on your area.
When I was a delivery driver I'd refuse anything less than $20 total, which meant about $18 of tip.
$18 is a bit much, but I have 10 downvotes that say $8 is too much, so who am I to judge.
It just meant bigger / more expensive food orders.
Delivering $100 worth of food takes almost exactly the same effort as delivering $10 worth of food, but the difference in tips is huge.
If you are paying separately for the delivery, what is the tip for?
Most people have already pointed it out, but I must say, I don't recall the last time I ordered pizza and didn't use a coupon.
Those mailer coupons are the only reason I ever order a pizza delivery anymore. The cost of delivery fees, tips, and the food itself keeps going up and it's becoming harder to justify the purchase unless I'm getting a significant discount somehow.
I used to order pizza fairly frequently, too. Like once every 2-3 weeks or so. But it's just so expensive now, I think it's been probably 3 years since I've ordered one.
Food is crazy. My wife went to jersey mikes and got a sandwich for herself. It came out to $17.50!
Fastfood lost their fucking minds lol
Next time buy her a large 1 topping and pick it up for $7.99.
Yeah the delivery stuff was a quarter of the price at least, and depending on how they ordered it the base prices could have been inflated too.
Sending hugs my airborne cephalopod.
Devil's advocate:
That's $24.85 before tip. I don't know how much tax was or if you tipped on top of tax.
I was curious so went to their website for where I live. I live in a high/average cost of living place:
Small Pizza w/2 toppings - $13.49
Stuffed Cheesy Bread - $8.99
2 sauces - $1.58
20% tip - $4.81
Total for me without tax would be $28.87. Add tax (call it 7%?) on the subtotal only (not the tip), and the total (including tip) is $30.55.
Food - $24.06
Tax - $1.68
Tip - 4.81
I guess the question is, is $13.50 expensive for a small pizza? A local joint near me charges $22 for a small with two toppings. The pizza is $14, and toppings are $4 each.
A small pizza and a cheesy bread is a LOT of food for one person, so you could argue that even though you didn't order food for yourself, you'll be able to eat some leftovers, so that's a plus.
$4 per topping is insane. Pre sliced meats and veggies sitting in a bucket.
I should make a standalone post about it.
I checked at my local place: $1.75 per topping. Much more reasonable.
You're missing things- There's the $3.49 delivery charge. There's the fact that each sauce cost $0.75 when you could get at least one for free pre-COVID. Also pre-COVID, I could get this pizza for significantly below $10. There is no reason for it to have gotten this much more expensive in 10 years.
Also, tax is on the image. It was $1.92.
Dang, that picture would have saved me a lot of time satisfying my curiosity haha. It didn't load at first.
Well at least you can see that yes, your location is cheaper than mine.
Basically you paid $8+ for something to drive to your house. I usually place pick-up orders for that reason.
No worries. These things happen.
Dominoes has a choose any 2 or more for $6.99 each which includes medium 2 topping pizza, bread, chicken etc…. Check the coupons page next time https://www.dominos.com/en/pages/order/coupon
Me, living in Japan: that's cheap for pizza and a side!
Not even any places deliver to where I live now so I have to drive a couple towns over.
Not even 5 years ago it would have been maybe $20 here.
In general, people don't live in Indiana because it's a great place to live. People live here because it's affordable. In our case, it's our elderly parents, but the fact that things used to be cheaper here is another reason we moved back.
Forget everything you said. Forget the prices. Forget the experience you had.
My first question is......why would you willingly order Dominoes? This is ghe same chain that just 2 years ago had a series of commercials where the core theme of the commetcials was "Hey, we know our pizzas taste like cardboard and are universally hated buuuuuuut, maybe buy a pizza? We're self aware of our awfulness, and we'll try to do better maybe!"
Dominos turned their shit around like, I dunno, 15 years ago or so. When they started making oven baked sandwiches.
I honestly really like some of their pizzas. It’s not bad. They just know that it used to be, many years ago.
It’s like when Buick made those commercials about how their new cars actually look good so people don’t realize they’re Buicks. When you have a reputation, sometimes it’s a good idea to acknowledge it.
Yeah the sandos and pasta are actually decent and with the coupons it's a pretty good value.
I'm not saying it's good food, I'm saying it's decent food and good value.
I, personally, would call their Philly Cheesesteak pizza “good” food. Not, like, local restaurant level good. But early days of COVID that was my little bit of sanity. Order a couple pizzas from Dominos delivery on Sunday, eat a slice of each for lunch every day.
I have literally eaten Philly cheesesteaks that taste roughly the same despite costing 3x as much from local restaurants. Dominos Philly cheesesteak is legit, at least for an area like the west coast that is devoid of truly good philly cheesesteak.
Eh, they don't suck as much now.
They're on par with any of the shitty chains tbh. Crust is okay, but not much more than that even with the various options for it. Sauce is acceptable, cheese is good, some of the toppings even can be called good to great for a chain pizza. Still not my top pick of the chains, but not as bad as Caesar's at all lol. Better than freezer pizzas at least, though digiorno does a good enough stuffed crust if that's your bag.
There was a time dominoes was worse than Caesar's. By a big margin, depending on the store.
1-2 people ordering out doesn’t make sense anymore sadly. It’s just too expensive. You need 4+ people typically dividing the cost to justify it now.
I expect that kind of price from a real pizza place; not from Dominos, Pizza Hut or Little Caesars. None of those pizzas are worth even half this ridiculous price. They're good (not great, but pretty decent) for $5-6. They're awful for anything more.
I was just talking to my friends about this and the related food theory video on pizza chains.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT4AffJJugs
I might also recommend instacart from a restaurant supply store like restaurant depot. You can find a lot of interesting things there in the frozen section.
A domino's employee told me to use coupon code 9193 at checkout, he said it's the best one that all the employees use. Hope it helps y'all 🤷
Dominos is really only worth it if you’re doing the 2 for $5.99 each deal. Although I think that’s even up to $6.99 now lol
799 large one topping gang!
I'm not a huge pizza person but paid $30 for a 9 inch from a pizzeria in Chicago a couple of months ago. It was tasty so I didn't mind but it did seem quite a bit higher than the last time I had pizza.
I'd never give Domino's that much for a pizza though, from what I recall their offerings are subpar.
I don't think I've ever seen a pizza place sell small pizzas for a decent value. They price them to not sell. I'm guessing because they aren't as predictable for the amount of volume you might need.
It wouldn't have been cheaper to go for bigger (ignoring deals), but it wouldn't have been much more and you'd have leftover pizza for lunch the next day.
Checked my local good pizza place. Made same pizza, the one you did but med instead. Local place was only $2 more: $17.50 vs $16.
It's pretty much the same to order delivery from local or nicer places these days rather than the big chains.
Yeah, fast food decided to go for good restaurant prices. Fuck you McDonald's, if I wanted to pay $25 for a burger and fries there are awesome local joints I can go to that make much better burgers
Did you order online?
Did you ignore the deal they shove in your face as soon as you visit the website that would have made the order much cheaper?
Damn, I wish I had such cheap food prices.
8 dollars for bread and cheese is beyond "mildly" infuriating.
25 cm pizze for about 1000 roubles? What the fuck? I can order 30 cm for 580 roubles (about 6$). Maybe even cheaper from other source.
This is why I always get a Costco 18" pizza for $10 every time I'm at the store. Yes, the pizza quality is not great, but neither are any of these other chains that charge 3x (or more) for less pizza of similar quality.
WinCo actually has good pizza for not only hella cheap, they will accept food stamps for them by selling you an uncooked pie and then offering to cook it for free after you pay.
That's devious and I like it
That's disgusting. We do get take out sometimes from local restaurants, but I'm in a city and we have lots of options, and I don't mind paying a higher price for supporting them. But for some chain restaurant, that's obscene. My SO went to Burger King the other night to try one of the whopper melts they have right now, and that plus fries and an Oreo shake thing was 19 dollars. Glad I'm vegan time and again.
Thats why I always go for a local shop, it ends up being the same price and better
My family have explicitly stopped ordering from Dominoes because of how insane their pricing has gotten. We have lots of significantly cheaper pizza options in my area that that are as good or are better.
Use coupons. Dominos is the cheapest around. And they don't force you to download a privacy invading app to get the coupons either.
Wow that is outrageous. I paid the Brazilian equivalent for that amount yesterday on a 16 slice pizza with four different flavors and a white chocolate border + an 8 slice small sweet one from a local shop with delivery services and all.
No wonder these companies don’t see the financial benefit for bringing their operations to the country…
I went to check the prices here in Iceland for a similar order to find to my complete surprise that your order was slightly more expensive, when I expected it to be half the local price. That’s crazy.
Wow! That is crazy! I can't imagine anything on her pizza had to be imported and I'm guessing a lot of it has to be in Iceland.
Pizza prices shot through the roof and I honestly can't say they are better than throwing a frozen pizza with some mozzarella added into the oven for less than half the total price. I don't think I have made photos, but I legit had "pizzas" where the outer 2-3 inches had no toppings, just tomato sauce burnt onto the dough.
this is central europe so frozen pizza is between 2-4 euros, 1 euro for mozzarella vs 8-10 euros for take out pizza.
it's also a lesser serving, so healthier.
Do you have grocery delivery in your area? If she isn't picky with the brand of pizza, maybe a $6 frozen pizza heated in the oven would be an alternative. Not sure if you have to tip, I haven't tried it myself.
Cooking a frozen pizza is not an option due to the smell sensitivity. If we order a pizza (which my wife usually does), I can go into my garage office while it is here, they can turn on the kitchen fan for 15 minutes, then I can come back in.
Wow, that's pretty out there.
Because it's completely bullshit.
I paid $13.30 Canadian for a small Pepperoni pizza and cinnastix like 2 nights ago, that price seems nuts
Sadly, I do order from crap places like this more than I would like to admit. Key these days to keeping semi low prices or get more food for the price is to have an account and order from the app. You can see all the deals and pick one that may work best for you. Some places are better than others. Most of Domino's is a scam because the deal price should just be the real price. It basically penalizes people who don't go out of their way. Good luck next time!
I told my wife about the price and she said, "you should have used the coupons on the app!" And I was like, "why would I have the app? I almost never order pizza and I don't want them harvesting my data when I do." So I guess that's the trade-off now. Your data for lower prices.
You don't need the app for Dominos, unlike most other restaurants out there. I actually order from Dominos more than other places because of that.
What data? Your pizza order data? What extra data does the app look at?
I genuinely don't know because I have pizza places that don't suck. You can get a real pizza for $20.
You have no idea how insidious they are.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/bernardmarr/2016/04/06/big-data-driven-decision-making-at-dominos-pizza/
The bigger issue is having their app on your phone which provides access to things like your location etc
For the price, pizza always seems like the cheapest “eating out” option compared to others. Our cheapest I’ve seen is $7.99 at Little Caesars for a pizza (“large round”), along with $3.99 for breadsticks. With 3 kids, that’s one of the best deals compared with everything else around (only ~$12). It doesn’t seem universal with all pizza places though, some are worse than others.
What did your order in seems to be the stuffed cheesy bread, dips, and the delivery tip, those ate up half your costs right there, but food prices in general have gone to shit. ~$12 for a combo meal at a fast food place is pretty typical in my area and made me question my receipt a few times during the pandemic when I first started seeing them that high. I just stopped eating out at most fast food places altogether and get by on a salad, shake, and protein bites for around $6 a day.
Last time I got domino's a single pizza was the same price as the 3 pizza menu (excluding upcharges). Maybe that's what's going on
At over something like 2200 calories, that is 4 meals though, so like $7 per meal. Still horribly expensive for pizza though.
Pizza is overpriced for pizza though. I ordered from my non-chain local place. Everybody loves them. 2 pizzas, $90 before tip.
The were hand made right? Right?
For $90 I sure as fuck hope they have the owner strapped to a goddamn milking machine to make the cheese. That or the landlord.
Restaurant landlords are a special kind of scum. They let restaurants revolve in and out until someone finally makes a splash. Then they raise the rents for the next lease. Every fucking time.
I can't wrap my mind over that price, our most overpriced place are $30 a pizza and those are humongous. Did you include overpriced sides? I find $15 for 6 wings a bit much and that'd usually do it.
No sides. I don't know how much 6 wings are, but I know the 18 pack was $40. I didn't get it.
VHCOL area here, the god tier pizzas are about $50 each for a large pizza. Dominos is still Dominos pricing.
I'm not counting the super mega fancy sit down places that have Michelin starred chefs making pizza either.
Whoa. Was it like, Pequod’s or something?
For reference from uber eats near vancouver bc
I feel ya homie. I went from takeout everyday to diving in my freezer for whatever shit I got.
The "I eat out every day" people amaze me. How? It's SO EXPENSIVE! Even before the recent inflation.
It's a habit I learned from my dad 🤷♀️
I can pretty rarely get under $30 for just myself ($50 for two i consider quite the deal now) and we live in a city with many options, and most places i would order from are about a 10 minute drive. I'm not saying it's right or good, just that the prices you see are in line with what I've been seeing. Food is quite a bit more expensive right now.
Ordered pizza last saturday. Two large pies, one sau+pep, one pep+olives. $30.
Local joint/non-chain.
It's a good 1/3 more expensive than it was pre-pandemic though. I could have gotten that order for $20 in 2019.
Absolutely. Pandemic "inflation" threw all kinds of prices too high and nothing is coming back down because most industries are so small that they're all essentially oligarchies now.
I am dead certain that the pandemic has actually put the US into a hard recession which the Fed has been covering up with various tricks. I'm pretty sure that after the presidential election, whichever way it goes, the economy is going to tank.
Damn, that’s lame! Domino’s used to be cheaper than Pizza Hut and decent pizza. I’d be annoyed too. If not for the sensitivity to food smells, you’d have saved money!
why is no one talking about how it adds up to 30.97 unless my head math is no longer sharp.
Just bought some Domino's pizzas. $2.67usd inc tax each for a large pepperoni (pick up). Unusually cheap discount, and it worked on me. Buying some pizza!
The 15% or 20% guidelines are based on the amount of work performed by the tipped employees (who earn less than minimum wage before tips.) the amount of the check correaponds pretty closely to how much time a waiter has to spend serving a table.
Drivers are not usually employees; they usually have $0/hr in wages, and pay their own fuel and vehicle expenses. Delivery services typically pay $2 per trip, and a trip will involve 2-4 stops. The base pay from the delivery service does not even cover fuel costs, let alone the driver's time.
The amount of work a delivery driver performs is not at all related to the amount of the check. The 15%/20% rules are not remotely close to the amount of work the driver performs. $8 on a $20 order is a garbage tip if it's a 10-mile delivery to a fourth-floor walkup. $4 on a $70 order might be a decent tip if it's a 1-mile delivery to a front porch.
The appropriate tip for delivery is based on mileage, not food price. $1 for pickup, $1 for dropoff, and $1 per mile is a pretty basic tip. A driver can complete about 3, $2 runs per hour. $3 tips gives him a gross income of about $15/hr, and he can net about $10-12 of that after expenses.
Domino's is pretty high for what it is. Not that it's bad pizza, but...
Not sure where based op, but a pizza counter top oven (5 minutes) is around €80 in Europe since inflation, but can still be found for around €60 in sales. I guess if there are similar ovens and similar prices that would mean if you find yourself getting pics more than 3 times a year from Dominos, then maybe buy one of those (e.g. Arieta 909 or G3ferrari) It would work out cheaper. Make the dough, buy the toppings put them all in the freezer. No smell other than the same smell from cooked pizza.
This is a gift that keeps on giving
I guess the best option is frozen food?
It could be the "haven't been able to eat solid foods myself in over a month", but this post just reminded me of my favorite order from dominos that'd usually cover me for a couple nights
Cheesy breadsticks and a large thincrust with fixins, and now I'm doing the Homer Simpson drool, yes it was garbage pizza but it was good tasting garbage pizza to a lonely college student!
Almost a year, not over a month. Well, technically that's over a month, but yeah, it sucks not being able to eat when food is one of the most important things in pretty much every culture (unsurprisingly). You literally cannot escape food. It's everywhere. Restaurants, supermarkets, billboards, you name it. And when you can't eat it, it's just torture. Especially if you really want to eat it, which I do.
I hope you come out of the other side of that, and I'll bring you a pizza myself.
I hope so too, thanks.
I've started craving nostalgic foods for myself as a coping mechanism, for me it's being unable to keep anything down save for like 2 things consistently
You need to train your little slave how to run a gas powered chainsaw. I refuse to believe you didn't know that stores have apps that feature coupons... NERD 😝
Lol you're surprised at this? Don't come to Canada, your eyeballs will fall out of your sockets. I would have sent her money to go buy groceries instead.
people who pay full price for corporate pizzas and complain about it are hilarious.
you obviously have internet access. there is no excuse to pay so much. Use their website. Install their app. Even in the 90s pre-internet there were an endless supply of flyer-coupons/discounts.
Full price is a tax on stupid, gullible or the lazy. You paid the lazy tax. 🤷♂️
That all said: yes, the lazy tax / full price prices are insane. I have no idea why anyone would pay them, especially with the difference coupons makes.
also: 1) tipping is a good thing to do 2) if you can't afford to tip, don't tip. If you can, do. I don't factor BS into prices and complaints.
Apologies for being stupid, gullible and lazy for something I almost never do and haven't done in years. Clearly I should keep abreast with the latest pizza ordering trends.
Also, I used the internet to order the pizza, but I sure as hell am not installing their app.
And I did tip them and I can afford it and I wasn't complaining about the tip. Why would I have tipped 20% if I had a problem with tipping?
It's like you didn't read anything I wrote. I'm surprised you didn't tell me I should have gotten carry out.
and to bring up another reading failure on your part (geezus, squid), I didn't say "use the internet" I said "website". website or app, two different options. I didn't you should order both from the website (internet?) AND the app (there's those faulty logic operators again). Either option - one of which you used - would have had vouchers/coupons on banner ads around the page. Bundles listed in with the normal menu. And so on.
But mostly I'm facepalming for you having misread almost every single line in my comment - and then whining about ME not reading. 🤦♂️ ffs, squid.
I said "or", not "and", but if you want to claim all 3, that's up to you.
I didn't suggest you had a problem with tipping. You suggested you had a problem with paying too much overall, and included the tip as part of your rant.
but seriously - given you basically live on the internet these days, what was your excuse for not spending 30 seconds to get a coupon code to put into the website?
My lack of knowledge that they exist?
youre trying to tell us that you didn't know coupons exist? Come on.
this is on you.
yes, full price is insanely expensive, but the fact that anyone would ever pay it - and be in a situation where paying it is worthy of a complaint - is insane.
You were lazy and you paid the lazy tax. You want to call yourself "and" stupid, sure, whatever. But call a spade a spade. Own your mistake and don't blame Domino's.
Internet coupons? No, I have never heard of such a thing. Amazon sure doesn't offer them. NewEgg doesn't offer them. eBay doesn't offer them. Threadless doesn't offer them. I don't buy from anyone else.
I know that you all think I'm supposed to know how to order food from the Internet properly with no one telling me about it. I just want to know how you all think I was supposed to know without anyone telling me.
Now I'm confused if you're being sarcastic or not. Do you think those sites don't offer coupons? (because they do)
I don’t know how many times I have to say I never order food on the Internet, but I still never order food on the Internet Internet. Somehow, I was supposed to find out how to order food on the Internet cheaper by osmosis. That’s what you all seem to be telling me. The weird thing is, none of you seem to be saying that Domino’s is charging too much and then charging people less if they use a coupon, when they could just charge everyone less to begin with.
Looks like you could have saved ten bucks by ordering a pick up order and not tipping. Welcome to the price of convenience.
That's what 3 days worth of unhealthy hot food, delivered to your door should cost. It's an extravagant service; it should be an extravagant price.
The real problem is that all those extra fees and expenses just go straight into owner pockets/shareholder value instead of providing the employees with medical care, proper insurance and a real retirement.
If you want to save money, teach your daughter how to safely cook a frozen pizza. If she's old enough to be home alone and answer the door when strangers show up, why can't she fed herself?
You didn't head off the question as to why you didn't just pick it up. It looks your delivery costs were a whopping 28% of the total. If you ain't cooking, you've probably got the time to drive. Or better yet walk or bike (obviously only if it's close enough).
But that being said, I recommend always considering getting a large pie. Remember, the area grows with r^2^
So for 6 extra dollars (to get the 16 inch) you get the equivalent of 2.5 10" pizzas. And you have some leftovers. Granted this doesn't make sense if no one else is going to eat it but her, but even going to a medium, you get almost an extra half pizza for 2 dollars. That probably would buy at least a second meal out of it for her.
The only thing I see wrong with this is you let your daughter boss you around
https://bdsmovement.net/Act-Now-Against-These-Companies-Profiting-From-Genocide
It would have only cost $22.40 if you picked it up yourself.
1: read the post 2: that’s still a ridiculous price
See "smell sensitive" in the body of the post.
You need to rewrite that to make it clearer, or maybe you enjoy belittling people for not knowing what you mean.
Who did I belittle? When did I belittle them?
Lol, with attitude like that she'll be a delightful adult
Edit: I'll accept these downvotes. So far all the replies have been "well I let my kid do whatever they want, whatcouldgowrong.jpg"
Hahaha, let me ask my toddler if he wants salad or chocolate.
Haha my son ironically hates both of these things. He would choose to eat air in his room.
This is why whenever my toddler asks for Mac and cheese I give him a dry salad. Gotta build that character.
Mmmm... Garden droppings
Look man, picky eating is way more complicated than, "just make the kid get over it."
Trying to force food choices isn't gonna do anything but give the kid complexes about trying new foods due to the high pressure they were taught to see those experiences as.
You don't have children, do you? She had the option of Pizza, Jimmy John's, Chinese or nothing. She said no Jimmy John's or Chinese.
Edit: I suppose technically I could have used Uber Eats or whatever, but that's even pricier.
Yeah, gotta love it.
Nobody said that? Why make stuff up? People here talk about the pickiness being the issue. Children are picky unless you put the effort in to change that (most of the time, some just eat everything). It just sounded odd the way OP said it. If there were 3 options and the kid chooses one I would not call that picky to begin with.
I'm not sure that person has ever seen a child
Yeah, I wouldn't have gotten dinner as a kid if I was that picky.
I'm pretty much with you on this one. A lot of these people sound like they have terrible boundaries with their children. I get OP's in a difficult situation, but I don't get why they're complaining about spending $30 on pizza when they agreed to pay that before it was even delivered. I'm not saying OP should've been like "you will eat what I say or you will go without dinner," but really, as a parent you can give your child realistic options that don't require you hiding in the garage for a couple hours. Ham sandwiches don't smell, lots of foods don't smell. If they "refuse," they're still going to want to eat later when they're hungrier, and you make the same food choices available.
Also a large deep dish pizza from Jet's is like $18, and it's really hard to overstate how much more food and how much better their pizza is. Domino's is clearly preying on people who don't know any better or who don't have any other options.
Then look at the price before confirming doofus
Frozen pizzas exist. If she won't eat frozen pizzas... just keep one pizza box from where she likes the most and put the frozen pizza in there after it's cooked.
Please read the body of the post.
Have you tried breathing through your mouth?
$5 is a pretty cheap tip for a delivery driver tbh
It's an insanely high tip
Someone drove you some hot food and you give them $4? You’re like Steve Buscemi in reservoir dogs.
NO! I don't think you understood at all!
Someone else hired a person and paid them 3.49 to drive hot food around.
Then a customer, who also paid the first person paid the driver more than their employer did.
If I could slap you over the internet right now I would.
It's not a high tip, it's just a very low wage. So proportionally, sure, the tip is very high, but the root issue is criminally low wages.
You want to slap me because I wanted pizza and then I also wanted the person who drove the pizza to my apartment to also be able to afford pizza?
I don’t condone the system, this is simply the pizza system that exists where I live.
The slap was because you were blaming the person who actually contributed more to the driver.
The correct response is: Wow! The delivery fee was only 3.49! How do they expect someone to work for such a pathetic wage!
Jokes on you… the delivery fee doesn’t go to the driver. Only the tip goes to the driver. That’s how fucked up this whole situation is.
Because a tip is meant to be extra. Not their entire pay.
I wish I lived in a country where this was the case.
They are paid a base minimum wage plus tips to drive their own vehicle around all day, paying for their gas, insurance, frequent oil changes and tire wear, putting miles on their car further depreciating the value… the whole point of being a driver is for the tips. Even when people tip well the drivers are mostly taking a loss with the usage of their own cars.
And also when you say "minimum wage" it's actually less than the legal minimum wage, because our regulators have been systematically gutted for decades.
I pay my delivery drivers exactly 0 tips. They're paid a living wage, no tips needed.
In the USA the delivery drivers live off of the tips… it’s not just high school kids working a summer job. A lot of drivers are working a second job to support their families.
If you live in a major metro area in an apartment building, gain yourself a reputation for tipping decently and you won’t have to leave your apartment. Tip poorly and you will have to meet them down on the street.
It’s not something I voted for, this social contract existed long before I was here.
If I had a vote to abolish the tip system, I would. In the meantime I make sure to tip decently so that the person who gave me service can keep a roof over their head.
It was 20%. How much should I have tipped?
I’ll put it this way… for dine in tipping, 20% is fine. If you order a cheap meal by yourself at a restaurant, that $4 tip on a $20 meal is fine. The server probably didn’t have to spend more than a few minutes with you.
If you are a table of 5 with a bunch of drinks and a $200 tab, the server probably earned their 20% of $40.
For delivery, a flat rate makes more sense. If someone delivers 3 pizzas and some wings for $100, did that take much more effort than delivering 1 pizza for $20? Same number of steps taken, miles driven, gas used, time used, etc.
$8 to $10 makes sense for doorstep delivery in todays economy. $5 was fair pre-pandemic.
If you are getting a whole bunch of stuff delivered then I can see justifying a bigger tip, but probably not percentage based.
A $4 tip on delivery means the driver is taking a loss or maybe breaking even. They shouldn’t have to suffer because you had a small order.
The service you receive for delivery is not as directly correlated with the total ticket amount as much as dine in might be.
I was given four options for a tip: 10%, 15%, 20% and custom. I gave the maximum offered. Now you're berating me for not giving more?
20% has been the tipping standard in the U.S. for decades now. For everyone who gets tipped.
So I have no idea where you're getting this from or why you're berating me for doing what was expected. Maybe berate everyone else who orders pizzas too and not just me since you're one of the only ones tipping more than 20%.
I’m not beating you, take it easy.
Ask some delivery drivers in any major metro / high COL area in the US.
Flat rate tipping for delivery is a lot more common than you might think; things have changed in the last 4 years.
I'm in Indiana and not in a major metropolitan area.
Which I also said in my post.
While the dollar amount I suggested is particularly applicable to metro / high col areas, the concept still applies. The same expense/effort on behalf of the driver exists for a $30 delivery as with a $130 delivery.
The same cannot be said for dine in.
Flat rate for delivery, percentage based for dine in is a sensible solution which I didn’t come up with myself. More sensible of course is fair pay which negates tipping altogether but we aren’t there yet.
If small town Indiana is a particularly low cost of living area then maybe $4 is a fair tip. But where I am from, $4 doesn’t last five seconds anymore.
If it takes them 20 minutes to bring you your pizza, then go back to the shop, then at best they are making $12 per hour minus the mileage and gas and other expenses they incur driving their own vehicle… it’s a real shit job that can only be made better by decent tippers, until such a time comes that tipping is abolished (I won’t hold my breath).
It doesn't take them 20 minutes to bring me my pizza because, again, I'm not in a major metropolitan area. It takes less than 10. I can get half way across town in 20 minutes.
Christ.
What are you complaining about? That's affordable! Don't you make 180k? Obviously not! You might wanna read my take on the economy.
https://lemmy.world/comment/10828100
You are the parent of your daughter.. yet she dictates to you what she eats?
There's your problem to begin with. You know what happened when I refused to eat what my mother made? Dealt with it.. by not eating anything.
Yeah yeah here comes the downvotes from non-parents and parents who don't know how to parent.
Also, thanks Biden. The economy is doing GRRRRRREAAT!
FJB.