We can do it again
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Daniel Lakeland @[email protected]
Fediverse, the social media system for 40+ year old people who built the world wide web and regret it.
Oct 01, 2026, 11:32 PM
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Im sorry but I did not contribute to this in any meaningful way.
Fuck that. I don't regret it. We built the world wide web from nothing for everyone and had it fucking stolen by rich assholes who put our community resources WE developed behind ads and paywalls. Unlike those uncreative hacks we have the talent to take it back.
there’s 2 kinds of people on fedi:
40 year olds who remember the good ol days of the interwebs
16 year old queer shitposters who got tired of getting called every slur imaginable on other networks
both are into linux
LGBT40+
you forgot the 3rd kind
Russian bots
also into linux
Isn't that something else? No matter where you are on the planet, if you know technology, you despise Windows.
Always has been.
Well, since 1978 or so.
Almost no one was into Linux back then though
Not so sure, Putin was spotted voting on a unactivated windows computer (so several of my colleagues told me yesterday, haven’t verified that claim).
dont i remember there were no cables running to the monitor
Was it cake?
It was a lie, that much for sure.
Do Linux Russians also wear fancy socks?
Only secretly!
Luckily it is typically too small to be much of a bot target. I don't subscribe to world news subs though, dark places.
It's usually only the news subs. But if you make claims that counter Kremlin propaganda you can sometimes summon them.
Like if I just say Russia is committing genocide in Ukraine, it won't (why? Beats me). But if I say they are killing ethnic Russian Ukrainian citizens as well as Ukrainian men, women, and children, then we have a good chance.
I got others if it doesn't work.
Edit: (WITNESS ME! Lol) Edit 2: Now I'm impressed. I knew I could do it, I didn't expect it to work quite so well. I'll check back in a few hours.
"People disagreeing with me are bots"
If they're getting paid to do it, they're just meatbots.
...Do you unironically believe people are getting paid to be on lemmy?
That old cartoon show "Metabots" but they're people in a computer cave lol
Why you people always gotta take everything as black and white. I use "bot" interchangeably with "shill."
Edit: I see no one found the humor with switching the actual thing that is black and white in his statement ("Everyone I disagree with") with the "bot" and "shill" thing.
"shill" implies payment, Lemmy is just way too under the radar for that kind of engagement
And by the time you have shills the network will be drowned in LLMs already. The latter hasn't happened, it's pure paranoia to think the former is anything to be concerned with.
the 3rd kind is people too toxic for reddit and got banned
They've got an entire instance!
And that's just the "nice" one that people still federate with.
I think you meant to say 40 year old queer shitposters
i guess im the 4th kind
What about us 20 somethings who vaguely remember the good ol days as they were fading away?
Queer less than 25 here, I came here not because I was getting called slurs but because I'm tired of companies and of AI, I'm also on Linux :3
I'm 60 and was tired of companies before you were born, AI is just the same shit served on a different cracker, I'm also on Linux :)
Good man(/woman/person/other-identity-that-represents-you)!
I have to use Windows at work now, which is ass.
Anyway, I had a question about how to achieve something in Powershell the other day, so I asked it on Mastodon. Got basically nothing in response.
Every time I ask how to do something in Linux I get swamped with responses.
Make of that what you will.
I use powershell on linux, it's on AUR: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/powershell
I write scripts on my linux machine then run them on windows workstations
I thought I was alone!
https://github.com/brianary/
Third kind (the only people I know from real life who use the fediverse): Tech/math enthusiasts, usually grad students (who are also into linux)
I'm a Luddite who discovered this shit inadvertently, and still doesn't actually understand how any of it works
But you're correct in that I'm pushing 50
I can be a 40 years old queer friendly tired of being called slurs wanting to go back, with a mindset of a 16 year old...
I am in my mid-30s i will have you know!
I run Arch, btw.
Excuse me, I'm not 40 for a few more years yet tyvm!
I'm flattered that you think I'm 16 and didn't just turn double that this month c':
Where do fifty-something furries fit to this?
In the corner, facing the wall, sweating profusely while they think real hard about their submission/humiliation fetish.
We know all IT departments are primarily composed of furries, so it's just a branch of number 1 really.
I feel called out
Yes, bow to me, the grand architect of geocities Dragon Ball Z pages.
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I can't understate how much I love this art
I think you mean overstate? Otherwise you're saying that you don't really like it at all.
Yeah, overstate. But I will still leave the comment unedited
It's ok, we overstood you. But yeah, pmjv is a fucking genius.
What did I do this time?!
Me 😉
Don't you remember?
lel!
People on here think too highly of themselves and the Fediverse. The overwhelming majority of people here don't know the basics of programming and of the few that do, the vast majority of them don't make any contributions. Even to those who do contribute, comparing themselves or the Fediverse WWW and the people who built it rather arrogant, no?
At the end of the day, the Fediverse would be better off going through a reality check. It's a niche alternative to mainstream social media that trades content for privacy. The tech is neat and the idea behind it is noble, but that's about it. It's not going to revolutionize the internet any time soon.
I personally blame the iPhone. Shit all started going downhill from then
Accurate.
Ditto
Team sport 😬
Uhhh Go Team !!! (insert hey mickey gif) lol
Go Sports!
I’m going with cuck porn on this one
But not too big a team, it gets ruined once you get too big
🥦😎
Ditto.
sensual pottery scene
Hahaha
Would that be a male or female version?
I winced.
Is your back giving you trouble, too?
I'm 39 and 3 months, thankyouverymuch, so I DO NOT fit the demographic!
(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
not accurate
Never thought I would say we need to decentralize the Internet
Come now, at least half of Mastodon/*key users are genderqueer twentysomethings who are mind-bogglingly good with computers.
In our defense, corporations ruined the world wide web. It still has so much potential if they weren't involved.
It was supposed to make everything better, we were sure of it.
We were horribly wrong. Sorry.
There are some lost kids wandering around complaining about their moms...
I dunno how they found it into here.
complaining about their +70 year old mom
Oh I can do that, this woman sits in her chair all day watching right wing youtube and complaining about her failing health. God forbid she take a walk or get a hobby!
The great thing about the Internet is that people can just find stuff, often by accident.
Well, people used to be able to do that. Nowadays, IDK...
I accidentally stumbled upon the Wikipedia article about Sad Clowns when I was looking for that picture of the happy/sad face from theater.
I have mixed feelings about what I read today. :|
The primary issue is: not anymore.
you leave my muddah out 'o this!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yFTOvO0utY
I found myself in comparable spaces for the time too. Spend enough time online and you hear about things.
Unfortunately as a younger gen z i need to supplement my Fediversing with traditional social media unless i want to have humor of a previous generation and get obliterated at school. I wish there was a greater variety of people on here
Nah, join the dark side. There will soon be a day when you can't understand the young ones anyway. Why not today?
Bring them here, we promise not to be awkward!
Speak for yourself I promise to be awkward as daisy dukes on a crusty old fart with droopy balls.
We shall bring the weird gen Z here so they can "match your freak" as the kids say these days.
I've been here for three years. Weirdest Z in the gen.
I'm from the 40+ demographic but also weird and I don't think it's really about age or generation. I don't care about how you reached this particular stage of enlightenment; all that matters is if you're on the fediverse, y'all are my people.
Older gen z here, doing my part
Not 40, but also don't want my thoughts and comments to be an income stream for a for-profit organization, whether that be by selling my data for profit, training an LLM with my data, or contributing to an inescapable network effect that can be increasingly monetized by various means.
The modern social media platform is not designed to foster positive interactions, but rather to maximize shareholder value.
I mean, you're fooling yourself if you don't believe Lemmy has been scrapped by a thousand crawlers by now.
I'm more paranoid about how many accounts are bots than about some data aggregator getting my dumbshit hot takes as training data.
Equal access for all is still better than one company controlling access to my content for the purposes of monetization.
That's why we're here. To fu k with the scrapers and poison the training 🙃
Dw, the corpos are using bots to scrape and categorize your thoughts and comments anyway.
They will be able to interact with a nearly identical fully formed person, at any point of development for them, who they can make and unmake at a whim, modify, and so on. While they leave the real people to just die.
Coming here for discussion and meme dopamine, Lemmy still has that intact. Reddit has killed it with bots, ads, and some heavy duty corporate lean on things.
r/castiron, dominated by Lodge Corpo as one example. Other “suggestions”, too early in the day to recall more names right now, are in a parrot circle of replies for brands, as above.
You can’t trust it as much, which is why, in part, people are here instead. More old, old Reddit feels, you know, before it became cool and was thus inevitably ruined.
This is so much more important than whatever elitism OOP implies.
I'm also not 40 btw.
Hell yeah, my geocities Nine Inch Nails fan site helped build the Internet
Did we build the world wide web or did we just shitpost for the lulz for decades without realizing we gave all the benefits of our shitposting to Mark Zuckerberg?
I'm 22 but i kinda like the vibes of here.
Cool. Can I buy some of your blood?
I eat plastic to feel young.
This isn't the corporate web, donate blood, don't sell it.
Or pirate it.
You wouldn't download a blood... oh, wait
nevermind.
Op can I buy your blood and then we give imgonnaregretthis a pail full of sheep mucus. We can split the money and the leftover lymph 60:40
Huh? I'm just trying to find the comm I can't remember cuz it pinned what to do, like I gotta find/remember quick, whether you keep it cold or warm, I know it depends, you got the link?
Bring your friends
Good. Glad you like the place.
And 30+ year old people who enjoyed the good times while they lasted and are now nostalgic?
I would say I like it here, imo the format and overall technology is perfect. I am always impressed by how little battery and data voyager uses compared to all the other bloated apps on my phone.
Having said that, I am disappointed that even without feeds and algorithms, it has become a lot more rage inducing and depressing then I would have hoped for.
There is just so many things that affect my life in a negative way being shown here, can’t a guy get a little ignorant bliss about nerdy topics? Or long, deep discussions comparing the philosophies of niche hobbies?
I don't regret it. I only regret letting the corporations stake their claim without greater pushback.
The slow creep was real. Social media corporations brought the mainstream to the internet in the worst possible way, but the old internet was still alive in forums and chats and discussion groups that had been around for years.
Reddit destroyed it. It gathered everyone into one place. It was constantly growing and pulled users from everywhere else in the internet to one place. Centralization. Then, it inevitably went corpo to the point that the greed of the ones on top destroyed the communities they gathered and exploited to put themselves in their elevated positions of wealth.
To be clear, the people with the money don’t care at all. They cashed out and got theirs. Everything burns around their greed, no different from oil companies.
The internet was supposed to connect everyone, share ideas, connect the world to collective knowledge, and bring us all together. Instead, it became a tool of corporatist and fascist control. Reddit ultimately ended up being the corpo that crushed and scattered the opposition.
Eloquently said.
A decent chunk of local businesses don’t have a web presence besides Meta products. Meta would love to be “the internet”, they had a project in early 2010’s to give free “internet” in developing countries. The catch, the internet received was restricted to Facebook. It was called out by net neutrality advocates as being very anticompetitive and India rejected the project in 2016. Even a decade ago the zucc had been using underhanded tactics to put as many eyes on his propaganda machines.
Why should some jackass amass as much wealth as a nation state by siphoning pennies from every other interaction on the planet?
Link to BBC article about India rejecting free internet below.
India blocks Zuckerberg's free net app Published
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-35522899
Surprised there are no video essays on how reddit destoryed the internet
“The best time to join the fediverse is 10 years ago, second best time is today.”
Wayne GretzkyWhen Facebook came around, I immediately saw what it would lead to. Hell, just the thought of sharing your personal details for anyone and everyone to read was extremely creepy to me. Any time I tried to communicate this to people asking me why I wasn't on Facebook it achieved nothing. Pushback was useless, people want what they perceive as "convenience" even when they have to (almost literally) sell their souls to the machine. No, I don't think pushback would have helped, because people want these - and I shudder to call them such - services. The Internet was doomed the day it became mainstream.
When I was young, I was called a nerd for using computers. People online were primarily nerds who cared about tech. Those days are long gone, and there was nothing that could've been done to prevent the rot. It was inevitable as the Internet became more popular.
The masses will always be asses. They don't care. They will eat corporate slop and ask for seconds until their bloated corpses burst. The best we can do is create alternative infrastructures and wait with horror as they start to rot too.
Jesus, I think I'm having a bit of a blue day.
Yep. That is the regret.
As a call center employee, the most inexplicably difficult part of my job is asking an older person to navigate to our website. When I give them the 9 letter address, it almost always results in a google search for them and the ordeal of having them try to pick out our website from the sponsored results brings joy to advertisers everywhere.
I would like to deny this, but I can't.
If we unite, we can regret it again.
That was my first thought. If we believe in ourselves we can fill Lemmy with ads and make it a subscription service and sell everyone's data to the lowest bidder. We can do it!
im gonna gift you Lemmy Plutonium for this!
By your powers combined, I am captain shitpost:
I'm 39, thank you very much.
well I feel seen
Lemmy feels very gen z ish though.
i'm 39 and haven't built shit but the regret is real
By commenting this on a federated platform, you have contributed to the open web. The fediverse is nothing if there's no content / interactions, like your comment. I know what you mean and it might not seem like much, but you are building shit.
thank you for the kind words! now i realize i installed several rooftop wifi antennas for cash in 2005 and the regret is even stronger
Mario teaches typing and the Oregon Trail on 5.2499" disks were just a dream.
for 40+ people who built the WWW then sold it to the enshitifiers, which they now regret
Software developers, of all people, should be used to the idea of complex projects not turning out quite the way they envisioned them. We're still building the World Wide Web, and the Fediverse is part of it. I don't even think we can call it a proper 1.0 version until every person has access to it, and we're still quite a ways out from that. After we hit that milestone, there will still be an avalanche of maintenance and QoL improvement work to do. I don't think the Web is something we'll finish building anytime soon, if ever.
Wait I'm considered young here even though I'm in my late 30s?
You are but a whelpling. Welcome.
Yup, some of us are old enough to call the 40 and 50 year olds "young whippersnappers".
Thanks glad I'm here
You seem like a polite child, but isn't it a little late for you to be up? Hurry to bed before your parents find out.
it's dangerous to get too excited at your age, gramps, your heart might not take it
Not super young, but young for the group. Hell, I'm in my mid 40s (I think. Please don't ask me to do the math) and I get the sense I'm on the young end of the primary demographic here
Honestly really glad, I'm tired of reading teenager opinions everywhere on the Internet
Joke’s on you: my opinions are just as bad.
Yeah? Well I also have shit opinions.
I think mine are the best there is. I do have a problem with objective judgment though
Likelihood of teenager.
Evidence of self-awareness, personal reflection, and confidence enough to admit personal shortcomings: Definitely not a teenager.
D'oh 😖
Plenty of old people with stupid takes too
I still want to read bad takes, that's not the issue here
Our current crop of old people sucks badly. I aim to grow wise and notmerely grow old
:old-man-yells-at-clouds-meme:
So my opinions are automatically worthless just because I'm 19?
Sadly that's how some people think
Sadly, yes.
Don't make the mistake of thinking that age automatically makes one wise, but yes, inexperience does automatically make one naïve.
I didn't say that, me not wanting to read them doesn't make them worthless
minors not being listened to/having autonomy is the foundation of most things wrong with this world :(
Agreed
I think a lot of you are projecting, lol
I love young people. My volunteer little sister just graduated and I used to work with trafficking victims. Listening to young people one-on-one is important and rewarding, I hope for both of us.
Reading a hasty thought from someone who doesn't even know who they are yet every 30 seconds on the Internet on websites like reddit, where people skew really young, and taking that extremely seriously is not enjoyable, for adults or for them. And unfortunately, whatever stupid thing people say gets preserved on the Internet for WAY too long, all the more reason to disregard it quickly, but people really struggle with that online.
I've fucking known who I am since I was 12, no one would accept it or believe me or give me bodily autonomy or let me learn actually useful things instead of religion at school, or let me not wear religious and gender invalidating clothing
I'm really sorry you went through that
😑
Strong claim
You can debate me on it if you like...
Does it count as building the web if I worked manufacturing the AOL disks that plagued everyone's mailbox?
Sorry to say, that was more like the initial wave of enshitification.
I learned the first bits of HTML by editing an index.html file from an AOL disk and customizing it to be my own homepage. We didn't even had home internet back then. So yeah, it counts.
I didn't build it, but I was raised by it. I was so hopeful when I was younger.
I thought humanity's problem was lack of access to information. The Internet proved I was catastrophically mistaken. The real world beat that idealistic youth to submission.
Turns out what we needed was less access to misinformation.
Same here. I didn't understand that people with power tend to find ways to make the voices they like louder, even when we all had a vote in what was popular they found a way.
And then the other thing. People tend to believe what they want to believe and outrage is often just a form of entertainment.
Finally someone who at least knows the difference between the WWW and the Internet...
Bitch I'm 36 and here on this Lemmy ish to meet the women who will give birth to my first through sixth wives. I have plans for seven onwards. Illuminati shit, y'know? But what I do for the CIA is I easily discredit myself by shaking a loose vestibule of fecal matter from my pant leg before providing education on any number of fun subjects like how MKULTRA was our initial enlightenment program that went and evolved its memetic ass into Star Gate by adding a larger counterintelligence role to the project and this has since and perpetuatively splintered into the modern Anonymous whatchsmacallit or whatever the kids are rizzing their pants about today, and then I follow that completely true series of facts with a rendition of the arts:
8=====D
I make more money than you doing this. Anyways, have a nice day! I have d-tier sex crimes to go boast about. Toodles!
I just wanted my Geocities page back.
I just made a neocities page, highly recommend
Had no idea this was a thing. I'll get one up tomorrow!
If it's cool, share it!
And IRC.
A lot of us still use IRC.
Yeah, I know. But the old main IRC spanish network is mostly dead since MS messenger. Still exists, but channnels are empty or are only people looking for sex.
And MUDs.
Heh, back before the web, I recall there were two people hogging the modems in the library: IRC users and MUD users. I guess we're here now.
The Disc world Mud is still around
Yeah totally! Getting voiced was like being knighted. Hope my homies on DALnet are doing alright.
Also for people with severe superiority complexes
who are all wrong. Clearly I'm the most superior.
See, this is why I love Lemmy. The good parts are like everyone's grey beard uncles got together and are all trying to tell the best goofball jokes.
Wow, wrong, and what an ignorant point of view.
(/s) :)
Why did you repeat what op said
Hey no fair! I'm 30, I grew up on the Internet and hate what it became
yeah but we didn't build it. we just grew up on it.
The Web. Internet is fine.
I’m about half that age, and I’ve met at least a couple grads and undergrad students on here that I assumed were also in their 20s…
20 year old reporting for duty
Hah, you said duty.
Welcome! You certainly don't have to match the stereotypes to fit in around here.
I just turned 24. I like my internet smol.
fediverse is basically internet as god intended.
I think there's two general kinds of people on the fediverse: Those who believe in whatever freedom, security, privacy, whatever, and the rest of us that came from somewhere else that went off the deep end of enshittification.
Oof. "Porque" is "because" Por qué" is "why". lol
But… yes. :) ¿Por qué no los dos? :)
So then "because of both" - seems legit!! 😜
No hablas Espangol
See senyor
I am bolth
My take is that the fediverse is nice because it's still in its pre-enshittification phase. Give it time.
It's designed to resist corpo capture via interoperability... if it starts enshittifying, hopefully this will allow users to shift over without incurring too much switching cost keeping them in place
So was the united States... Lol. But I'm hoping for better here
I know the theory, but it really just puts enshittification in different hands.
Well, you are using world, which is like the reddit of lemmy
Hopefully its design makes it resistant to enshittification.
Depends... if enshittification just means corporate control and advertising, I have high hopes for the design. If enshittification also includes things like personal insults, echo chambers and gatekeeping, those ships have already sailed as expected.
"Enshittification" has a more specific meaning than just "things getting shitty." It's about a product or service being purposefully made worse in order for the company controlling it to extract more profit by means more underhanded and exploitative than just raising the price.
Forum toxicity (sans some algorithm or bot farm egging it on for some nefarious purpose) is categorically a different thing than enshittification.
The Fediverse can't enshittify in its current state because it's not controlled by a corporation. In order for it to happen, it would have to be overwhelmed by federating with Threads or something like that.
Alright I understand the distinction now, although I don't think either kind of degradation creates a worse user experience than the other. I wonder what term will be made up to describe the situation when corporations have spun up their own instances of lemmy etc. and promote them so they attract far more users. Maybe disillusionication?
That is what enshittification means. It is specifically a corporation making it's product shittier because they've cornered the market.
Thanks, silly me assumed a word like "enshittification" would just mean "made shitty".
The whole point of decentralisation/federation is that it's enshittification proof. If one services goes bad, users can move away and continue to maintain their network effect.
The fact that we're not corposlop gives structural resistance to it. Just don't let us get EEE'd
Not quite. I went here initially because I got permabanned on reddit. But I now realize reddit is a shithole so I like it here. I do wish there were more active niche communities and I really wish you could comment while on VPN, which you cant for some reason
The people who built the web aren't the ones responsible for its' consolidation.
I was contracted to work for a non-profit that helped teachers write and analyze student test scores for a few years. The non-profit ended when the CEO sold the company to another education company. The new education company has contracts with the department of defense in my country.
When I reflect upon the outcome. It would seem that the department of defense now has direct access to many more students who test scores are low. All lined up and analyzed. And I'm the one that automated the deployment of that system. I just quietly took my checks until my contract was no longer renewed.
From my point of view I did build a small part of the web. And I stood around and did nothing while the web/company/people around me were being consolidated. While the department of defense freely browsed some of the most vulnerable children/students in the country because they know poorer testing students are more likely to join the military for money.
A lot of people are going to die because of that analysis system in my opinion; And to me, that means I am responsible.
Well, maybe in some way. In some way we're all responsible for the military-industrial complex that consumes unbelievable amounts of money in pursuit of global domination and "national security".
Maybe you can do your part to break that up by educating children about the predatory nature of the military. About the many atrocities committed. And how they target people who don't test well in school (but obviously aren't necessarily stupid) because they're more likely to do what they're told and not question anything.
To be fair, you did not know, how what you build, would end up being used. How could you, especially since you were working for a non-profit, that helped teachers? It is not like you were building something obviously dangerous, weapons or some shit. Maybe you feel responsible, but expecting everyone to just not do anything, in fear of it being potentially misused for something nefarious, is no way to live. That way none should do anything.
Since when is not knowing you'll do harm an valid excuse for harm done? We all fail to anticipate sometimes and shouldn't be punished for it, but we should still strive to correct those wrongs.
They did something good-seeming in good faith, and someone else used that, for something evil later on. You would need the power to see into the future, to prevent stuff like that. If we are all to blame for something so indirect, then what does being responsible even mean anymore? That does not mean we should not strive to correct those wrongs, yes. But I do not think it makes you responsible for them either.
I think that's a big part of the point.
I didn’t do anything. I just went along for the ride. I love using tech other people made to help me do shit. I think I just like problem solving efficiently.
I always thought it was like a mosaic of people pretending to be a mosaic of other people. /s
I felt my back in this post.
"I was there, Gandalf."
Love to be made to feel young in my mid thirties lol
Can’t relate. I just wanted off Reddit. Every top post and comment was a reposted top post or comment. Now it’s mostly bots… Anyways where are the 30s peeps at?
I'm not yet even close to 40, yet I still believe I am one of the "people who built the World Wide Web", in the sense that I've been posting to it for more than 20 years (there are still old forum posts online that I wrote at the age of 10), i.e. before it was something the general public did a lot.
I'm on the one hand proud of how much it has grown and how much more popular it has become; and on the other hand, worried that this has caused governments around the world to pay a lot more attention to it and limit our freedom on it through age verification laws and similar...
we wrote the rules of the internet, and while some were In-jokes about life on 4Chan, a lot of them are just plain truisms. But the language makes Gen Z have the buttpains, so here we are...
If I could enforce just one of the old rules it would be LURK MOAR.
Wanna see us do it again? 💪 let's do this, team
You rang?
<Insert Goofy-fucking-do-it-again.png>
I'm 38 I'll have you know.
...turning 39 in a few months.
Only it’s being overrun by a bunch of teenaged idealists that insult anyone that disagrees with them.
No your mother
Have you called her lately? She misses you.
Fuck off grandpa
Look, here’s one now!
Got my start in the 14.4 days.
I went from a 1200 baud to a 28.8. It was like driving a supercar at the time.
Wow, I couldn't even hold my head up at 14.4 days.
lol the first time I was using a computer was on my grandfather’s PC running DOS 2.0 on dual 5” floppy drives.
Same here! The family computer's first modem was 14.4Kbps. The sound of it connecting is burned into my memory.
https://56k.rip/
Damn bro I'm not 40 yet. We age fast enough, don't rush it lol
Who invented the modern computer look and feel - the sick sad history of computer-aided collaboration: What they wanted and how it went:
https://www.quora.com/Who-invented-the-modern-computer-look-and-feel/answer/Harri-K-Hiltunen
Hold on I want to use the computer with the knobs you tweak
Hello, it’s me, Al Gore
HOW DO YOU KKOW MY AGE?! fuck. i'm in.
How dare you accuse me of contributing anything other than shitposts to the world wide web.
Shitposts are the cornerstone of the internet.
A contribution is a contribution
I feel seent.
♬ Well I'm an old blues man
And I thiiink that you understand
I've been singin' the blues ever since the world began ♬
im over 50 and lee is way older than I. Granted www was just being born when I was in college.
No shame in getting your freak on in telnet chat rooms or NNTP newsgroups.
one reason I liked reddit was it felt a bit more like alt. rec. newsgroups. the federation of course made it way better.
Maybe mastodon but the lemmy / piefed / mbin instances seem to be a much younger user base.
🔘I’m in this meme and I don’t like it
(Sorry for everything.)
Yeah this one Cuts deep
I hope he’s not speaking for me cuse I ain’t 40 and I’ll hold on till like last mastodon
As per usual, something was used for greed that wasn’t initially meant to. They couldn’t for see it
That's my people.
see you on Reticulum!
I've been on here since I was 16 lol
That’s fair
Wow
Why'd you have to call me out like that?
There is nothing here for you. You may leave at any time.
I'm in this image and I don't like it
I like the Web.
I don't like all of the websites out there and avoid using some, but I think that that was always going to be the case.
I guess that maybe it's a little surprising that there was the degree of consolidation that there was among the broader population into use of some specific websites. But...well, network effect applies to social media, so you'd expect at least some natural tendency in that direction.
considers
I guess that the degree of shift to social media as a whole is surprising to me. Like, most really important websites are social media websites. But, well, I'd always used social media myself, even prior to the term being coined, so the idea that others might want to use it doesn't seem that strange. BBSes, Usenet. I wasn't a user of The WELL, but there's another influential forum.
And a shift to Web-based social media was predicted. Those of us who were around probably remember use of the term "Web 2.0":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_2.0
By Berners-Lee's statement there, he always expected the Web to have a social aspect.
true.
If by build you mean a Thursday board power user, sure.
Lemmy is under 25 and over 45 absolutely no in between
Fuck, I guess I gotta get off. See you again in about 3 years.
The people who built the web don't regret it tho, lol. Try harder.
Yeah. A bunch of old out of touch uncs with no personality outside of nostalgia for old internet platforms they got banned from, racism and misogyny.
With inflated egos about how much they actually mattered (seriously, built the world wide web).
Such a healthy platform that won't just slowly shrivel up and die.
My only problem with it is that it's federated.
You can host your own instance and defederate, it'll be a win-win
There are better forum software for that.
But federation makes the user count too high and leads to all the problems other social media has.
Clearly "all the problems other social media has" are present without federation, so the claim federation leads to those problems is kind of silly.
The problem is users, if all instances were defederated then each instance would have less which is what you want.
Federation would be fine if users could only interact with people on their own instance/see content from their own.
Do... Do you understand what federation means in this context?
Also, have you considered just, like, going outside?
Yes to both. It doesn't change the issue.