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Weird. Just turned 47 and I JUST tried Debian tonight.

So far it's very good.

Get off my lawn

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sopuli.xyz

distro memes should be updated for 2026. i.e. with cachy,bazzite,steamos.

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Evotechreply
lemmy.world

Yeah. Surprisingly cachyos had the largest userbase om steam after steamos

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Damagereply
feddit.it

The ultra neckbeard has a SUSE logo, there's no gentoo in the pic

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Feels like maybe that represents SUSE but...not OpenSUSE. Tumbleweed is legit and the community is super chill and dope.

yeah I feel personally attacked lmao

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lemmy.world

Linux user for 25+ years here. I've tried 'em all. These days I just use Mint.

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Yep, been on Linux for 10 or 12 years now, I honestly can't remember. Distro hopped at first, then I found Mint and never saw a need to change.

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lemmy.ml

Same conclusion for me. Been using Linux for years, Mint is the only distro I've used that #JustWorks in my experience.

I use LMDE as my personal laptop, it's rock stable.

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pmkreply
piefed.ca

What's the difference between LMDE and running Cinnamon on Debian?

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LMDE tries to give you the Mint experience on a Debian base. It's Debian for people who like Mint, I guess.

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cmhereply
lemmy.world

I'm in an organization that helps people install Linux on their devices, and we collectively decided to install Linux Mint. I never used it myself, and to me, the distribution doesn't matter too much.

However, I was negatively surprised that Linux Mint decided to mix closed-source proprietary software together with open-source software: http://packages.linuxmint.com/search.php?release=alfa&section=import&keyword=

They also advertise them in top positions on their package installers, which also doesn't show the packages licenses anywhere. To me advertising them and mixing them like they are the same is bad... They also don't offer ways to filter them out... So... while I still install LM for others, I'm not a fan....

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blarthreply
thelemmy.club

Being too purist about the openness of a distribution is a big reason Linux has taken so long to gain foothold on PCs.

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I don't care if a Linux distribution offers proprietary applications or not. I just want to be able to filter it out, and that they offer open alternatives first.

I'm not a purist, I want people to be informed users, not just sheep that get fed whatever corporations want them to eat. If they still choose to use closed source software, then that is fine.

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pmkreply
piefed.ca

On the other hand, being purist about openness is why GNU exists in the first place.

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So there are different Distros with different philosophies, that people with different preferences can find what tgey are looking for.

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Same here, except on servers, where I prefer debian.

Because I'm old and tired, and I just want to install and be up and running in as short of a time as possible without dicking around.

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I have yet to encounter a use case where I would need anything other than Mint.

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After 20 plus years of Linux I also really love using mint on any machine with a screen. My servers are all Debian based but my desktop and laptop are mint it just works

Also, not sure how using arch is equal to the picture, not sure if that's supposed to be a trans girl, an e girl, or something else. Using arch is more like a mechanic with a car that breaks down every time they change anything.

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This is a random internet image for shitposts and giggles. I considered the face to be obscured enough for the guy to be sufficiently anonymous, though he deserves fame and fortune for his awesomeness.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

I am sorry, but that notebook is way too modern for a proper Gentoo user. Anything above 500MHz is wasted energy with useless kernel flags

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He has to use a separate mouse! A mouse!! Never seen a mouse user in the tiling wm world.

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I resen.... Shit he even has a DrPepper. I guess I need to wash my cloak.

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Now that we can game, we need the horsepower.

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Hoodie, MX Master and Gentoo, that's literally my old stack, except it was a desktop not laptop.

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piefed.social

Linux Mint as the baby makes no sense. That would actually be CachyOS or MX Linux at this point.
::: spoiler edit
I didn't interpret the age of the people matching the user of the distro. I matched the person in the graphic as the perceived maturity of the project itself... not the user. This is why I say to me Linux Mint doesn't make sense as the baby... MX Linux and CachyOS have been adopted more recently than before.
:::

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Valmondreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

Mint is for people doing other things IMO (that fiddling with different os and such). It just works (tm).

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Nah it's still Mint imo. Cachy is close but I think that it being Arch requires a little more maintenance

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Meh...use what you use, don't judge others for what they use... unless it's windows, fuck those guys.

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ratelreply
mander.xyz

I just assume that everyone arguing over distros has been using Linux for less than 3 years. If you're an experienced user you're just happy more people joined the cult community.

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So true lmao. I have been using Linux for 4 years. Recently three of my friends have switched, each went for a distro I would never go for myself, nor recommend to anyone. Yet I was just happy for them and hopeful for FOSS.

Saying this as a person who once said systemd is bloat, proprietary drivers are backdoors, Firefox is bloated spyware, use only FSF approved distros.

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piefed.world

yeah I've tried just about all of them and at the end of the day it really boils down to "how do you like to install your shit". a DE/WM is probably more important than the distro at this point as you're going to get similar performance no matter what you're on.

I use NixOS only because for me personally it makes dev work slightly easier than other distros. that's it really. Some people want to constantly tinker, some people just want to install and forget about it for a year and have it stay out of their way. It's all about personal taste and how you want to install stuff really. I know a guy that uses Bazzite for everything not just gaming and he loves it. it works for him. My dad uses Slackware and will never use anything else, he loves it. If I had the time I'd probably switch to Gentoo but NixOS works for me right now. Like I said the DE/WM is more important.

All that being said if you use GNOME then I'm worried for your well being. /s

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I LOVE keeping my configs in source control. I add something to my laptop in my shared config, it also adds it to my work desktop and my travel box. I need it just on the prime laptop? there's a spot for that too. Stuff that's not needed every day? nix-shell -p it. I even setup some shared nix-shell project folders so if i need something like yt-dlp, nix-shell in the directory pulls down a specific python, installs the latest yt-dlp, ffmpeg and deno, even leaves me a shellhook reminder of what the command line is. when I close that shell, it's all gone.

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I've been using linux for almost 30 years. I'll stop arguing about distros when I'm dead.

Also, let's be real, this ain't that serious.

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bryndosreply
fedia.io

I'm not sure that I'm what anyone would call "experienced". But I've used it for a long time. And people wetting their pants over one or another distribution seems like a total waste of time. they're all very similar.

I'm very much not happy to be associated with the community depicted in meme - i sincerely hope most of them are just taking the piss out of themselves.

I think even if there were quadruple the user base it's not going to materially change the number of developers making decent linux native programs. So you either use open source stuff. or webapps and wine stuff like that. Size of userbase is pretty irrelevant to me.

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Distros are a matter of taste, and you shouldn‘t judge someone over it. But a bit of friendly fun-poking is alright (e.g. „NixOS user spend all night configuring their PC“). Insults directed directly at a person are never OK. And there are of course distros that are objectively bad (like Ubuntu), and you can criticize their creators, and maybe try to convince the users to choose something else (that‘s where Mint is from, kind of), but you cannot. hate. on. them.

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shredderfood.net

I'm actually hoping the Windoze losers stay away....last thing we need is a flood of "make it more like windows" requests.. Ugh..

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Yes - they should stay in another subculture, far away.

Ideally they'll also be locked behind a paywall, safely protected by shit like "HP sure start" so that they don't accidentally open some dangerous csv file in anything other than excel.

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Soupreply
lemmy.world

I installed it last week. If just kinda works, is there supposed to be something bad about it?

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Don't take those memes seriously, I think the only bad thing I'd have about CachyOS is that it's probably getting popularity as a trend, which doesn't reflect on the distro itself.

In my particular personal opinion it seems like a good choice if you already know what you're doing, since it's mostly just Arch with a nice installer, which I consider to be a solid choice with good support.

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feddit.uk

Speaking as an Arch btw user, my socks match, thank you very much. How rude.

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Fairly accurate. SUSE is more like an IT guy forced to wear a suit to work that is not tailored well.

This guy is Kali Linux or Qubes/Whonix/TailsOS:

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lemmy.world

Cis straight male Arch user checking in. There's all kinds of us, everyone is welcome to wear what they like and feel what they feel.

Ask for help and help you shall have. (It'll just... it'll be someone giving you a link to a wiki page, or the wiki page, or saying "check the wiki", BUT YOU WILL BE HELPED BECAUSE THE WIKI IS GO(O)D!)

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SmoochyPitreply
lemmy.ca

Migrating my workflow to NixOS right now, and it’s really made me realize just how good Arch Wiki is. NixOS and Nix are a bit disjointed in terms of documentation and learning resources. But Arch Wiki usually helps me gain intuition for which software does what and what traits I’m able to configure.

Non-Arch-Linux Linux users should absolutely consider the Arch Wiki when troubleshooting or learning about the Linux ecosystem! I’m not sure there’s a better broadly-applicable resource out there.

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Arch wiki is awesome, I've been using Debian and Debian-derivatives for 10+ years and Debian's documentation is frankly embarassing compared to Arch's. There's some good stuff like Debian Administrator's Handbook (outdated tho) and the upgrade instructions for each stable release, but a lot of the Debian wiki information is outdated and riddled with dead links.

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RQGreply
lemmy.world

Same. I feel well represented as a Debian user.

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I'm old and cranky and beat up, but I feel that pic is just touch too old as a debian user

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lemmy.today

I'm forced to use Ubuntu (an old version too, 22.04) because the app I use for about 70% of my computer time doesn't support anything else. I've tried newer versions of ubuntu and other distros and have gotten it to a mostly working state after a lot of work, but the issues are too much and I also loose all customer support since I'm not using the officially supported distro and version. I'll never go back to Windows but I feel jailed in more than I did before, and there's just no other option.

So what does that image look like?

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Funkt4st1creply
lemmy.world

Im trying to imagine what software is so obscure no one has updated it or ported to another distro, but is important and good enough that you use it for 70% of your comluter time.

Even (often, especily) extremely old programming languages and stuff are still maintained by someone

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Probably shit like NinjaRMM

They only support Ubuntu for their rdesktop app, Someone pulled it kicking and screaming into nixpkgs, i built a flake around it. It's stable, but the day they release a breaking change, I'm at the mercy of an unpaid, unnamed package maintainer to make it work again or take a stab at it myself. Or run it in wine, or run it in a windows VM. or build it out an ubuntu docker and x11 forward it back.

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I look similar to RMS and I use Arch (btw). Whatever is going on in the picture requires more fashion sense than I've got.

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It's pretty underrated, it's like Mint or Pop but with KDE (and therefore better) and better optimization if you buy their hardware.

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Obligatory not an arch user, but I have been thinking of potentially getting thigh highs if I can find purple and white stripped ones. Closest I got is a couple of pairs of soccer/football socks that I recently got, but I kinda wanna change that.

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See this makes me feel like I should be using arch, but I'm an idiot whos practically slobering all over the keyboard. I just want my pretty ui and for inkscape and my browser to work and to not have to worry about things unless I'm choosing to tinker

If I have to use the terminal for an prolonged period of time I might cry. I almost got void fully installed and working, but I just wanted my new replacement laptop up and running after my old one broke, so I gave up 🥹

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I almost got void fully installed and working
I just wanted my new replacement laptop up
I gave up 🥹

Did you use the XFCE version? I did so (XFCE musl*) on an old machine, had a bit of trouble with the partitioning at first (had to try the live image a second time because new changes weren't working) but ultimately worked fine. Seems to run fine, then again I wanted XFCE anyway. Install octoxbps and you can use that for installing/updating software as well.

Though post-install I did notice some dependencies being missing when installing some software, and packaging seems weak (like no optional dependencies like Arch has). So I haven't committed to it on my main machine**, though I guess I can test it to see Void's long-term updating experience (though the live image being from ~6-months ago probably says enough).

* because I am actually interested in this for compilation, and it actually is a use-case for an old machine

** outdated Arch... a bit of friction with my non-fiber internet, legacy GPU (1050Ti) drivers on AUR is a no-go for me

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lemmus.org

I have limited experience here, but can confirm that being a sleeping baby is quite pleasant.

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I love Mint because I put my geriatric, non-techie dad on it 6 or 7 years ago and he's only asked me for help 3 times. And þe second time was because he bought a new (used) laptop and wanted Linux Mint on it instead of þe Windows it came wiþ.

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lemmy.world

Swap Ubuntu and mint, and Suse needs to be visibly German.

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Nah. Mint users aren't babies, they're the most everyman user. You probably won't find them on a linuxmemes page because they installed it out of frustration with co-pilot and don't want to know what an operating system is.

Ubuntu is accurate. Arch is accurate and also how dare you. Fedora is slander. That's linus torvalds' distro you're dissing. Debian… Gonna go out on a limb and say nobody uses debian on a personal machine. If its installed on something its your set it and forget it machine. The webserver that serves your neocities ass looking website. or your company's email server. Its not for old people, its for old machines. Or machines that plan on growing old.

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Debian… Gonna go out on a limb and say nobody uses debian on a personal machine

All of my personal machines run Debian.

EDIT: Well...I have Termux installed on an Android device as well. I guess that could be considered a Linux distro.

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BabyVireply
lemmy.world

Debian is for when the other distros have failed you and you're too old to deal with that shit anymore.

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Specifically, Debian is for when you're sick of Canonical's bullshit but don't want to learn another package manager or start dealing with rolling releases.

Also, Raspberry Pi OS is Debian, too, and that's literally for children.

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FrChazzzreply
lemmus.org

Mint user and the image is perfect. This is because Mint allows me to rest like a baby that has all their needs met, free from anxiety.

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feddit.org

rest like a baby

Piss your pants and wake up crying several times per night?

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Gonna go out on a limb and say nobody uses debian on a personal machine.

Sending this comment from a Debian desktop system. And it's running oldstable, because that's how I roll!

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Linux mint user here, I'm using it because I can't be bothered to spend my precious few spare time on fixing things my OS decided to break. I want something that just works, and mint fits the bill, and comes out of the box with most of the things set up how I like.

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I was a mint user, a year later I am a void user and am trying other distros on other machines and plan on trying more OSes. First thing I did was learn to customize my cursor with custom icons I had from windows which took me days because I didn't know how to use the terminal. I somehow used flatpak wrong???

I am sure it is different for long term users but it was a good start and fun learning experience. I mean don't get me wrong I am still dumb but a bit less.

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lemmy.ca

😭😭😭😭 I wish my legs looked that good in stripey leggings...but sadly they do not

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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. All I see are legs that have never completed a single squat.

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I sleep as cozy as a baby in a cable knit onesie with Mint on my computers. Looks pretty accurate.

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programming.dev

Idk about the mega neckbeard for opensuse. Every one I've met has been the most normal and least annoying. It just works and allegedly has some very nice convienence features.

Also the arch user could just as easily be copied to nixos.

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Yeah, SUSE is a very competent server distro, basically RHEL/Alma/Rocky for Germans. Neckbeard maybe for Tumbleweed, but that still feels too normie compared to Arch, Void etc.

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lemmy.world

I installed Debian on a VM just to test out a Necesse Lan server for the home/family.... I did not like it.

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It's got a lot of rough edges on desktop compared to Ubuntu, hence the old joke, Ubuntu is preconfigured Debian

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