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lemmy.ca

All of these are just working people being toyed with by the rich for their entertainment and profit

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unmagicalreply
lemmy.ml

Dude literally watched Squid Game and said that shit would be better if it were real then set out and did it.

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feddit.dk

But for 5k a day.. Yeah, I'd waste three months of my life for that kind of money

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Aulireply

Sure who wouldn't but it is still a rich asshole exploiting the poor for his entertainment and benefit.

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Of course you would. I probably would too. It's life changing money. But the morality of these 'challenges' is extremely fucked. And $5k a day is pocket change to Mr Beast who makes $1.6 million a day 🤮

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I watched a video about it, and what's interesting to me is that he had an enormous budget for this Squid Game remake. He spent it on setting up hundreds of cameras, building a whole set where the game would take place, hired all kinds of camera operators... but didn't do even basic play-testing of the games he was going to have people play.

As a result, some challenges that were supposed to last for an hour or so ended up taking more than 12 hours. Some challenges that were supposed to eliminate half the contestants instead eliminated over 90%. Some challenges didn't work because people refused to eliminate their friends.

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lemmy.world

A 2.5 million private jet is, uh, probably not new.

The smallest Very Light Jets, like the Cessna Mustang or HondaJet, start around $5 million new.

So you're probably looking at a decades old plane, almost certainly not enough room to fully stand up, and possibly no lavatory.

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It could be a Cirrus Vision Jet.

Edit: holy shit they've gone up in price to $3.2M. Damn inflation hitting private jets too. Nobody's immune

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lemmy.world

Look at Mr. Fancy Pants over here who knows about private jets

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sh.itjust.works

Hey, this dude has the value of knowing private jets weak points. Let it slide.

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lemmy.world

Ah yes, good point. @mkwt Tell us more about these jets, Mr. Fancy Pants.

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Otterreply
lemmy.ca

Well that was an interesting source

Pilot who won private jet from MrBeast challenge briefly detained in Paraguay over drug case

The seized drugs were high in THC and were estimated at $3.6 million, according to Paraguayan officials.

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anomnomreply
sh.itjust.works

So if this pilot users his new Jet to smuggle more drugs, is Mr Beast an accomplice?

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All of these are just working people being toyed with by the rich for their entertainment and profit

That's literally a description of society. Not just modern society, society throughout all of history. The rich and powerful have always toyed with the peasants.

These are just variations of game shows. Do X and you can win $/Prizes while they film it and play advertisements while people watch.

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lemmy.world

Oh look a rich person controlling other people with money. 🤮

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Basically a gladiator spectacle but with less obvious class dividers.
I mean it's from top to bottom, including the reward (monetary instead of livelyhood)

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lemmy.ca

If Mr Beast was twenty years older, he would’ve been the one paying bums to fight.

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Davel23reply
fedia.io

Hell, I'd pay to see flying bums.

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lemmy.ca

D’oh. I’ve edited it so now your comment doesn’t make sense. Flight -> fight.

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My comments don't make sense at the best of times.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Bum Flights: a show about trying to find among 100 unhoused people any of them who are capable of learning flight sims and eventually becoming pilots. Like crop duster level pilots realistically. Airline pilot certification is probably too far along to be entertaining.

Exploitative? Still probably exploitative. Guaranteed to be at least marginally better than whatever the Beast Studios people are making

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Is this like flying super kids, just with adults instead?

Yeah people would watch jumping gymnastics

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lemmy.world

I really cannot wait until this guy's audience grows out of his stupid garbage. Though unfortunately, it's going to leave an entire generation of people who will value money over everything else.

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Back during the George Floyd protests I was watching a live stream from NYC. Several people in the comments were saying the store owners should shoot the protesters if they broke windows. I asked chat, "Do you really value property over human life?" No one said "no", and three explicitly responded "yes!" to me. I'll never forget that, I was a bit shocked.

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programming.dev

it's going to leave an entire generation of people who will value money over everything else.

Yes because that doesn't already exist...

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lemmy.world

I dunno, I think he definitely shaped that thinking, not the horrible capitalistic systems we all live under

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lemmy.world

No the horrible capitalistic systems we are living under right now are shaped and controlled by the 70 and 80 somethings that currently have a strangle hold on the government.

In other words the FUCKING BOOMERS!

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The funniest/saddest thing is hearing stories from niche youtubers that did one of his events talking about kids they meet finding out about it and immediately asking them for money. Just an instant switch from bored disinterest to excited begging.

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lemmy.zip

Dude you obviously have not seen game shows from well forever the last 50 60 years at very least. Mr beast is just a continuation of those game shows. I for one had never really heard or watched him before beast games came out. And then I started saying more and more of his stuff. But it's always been a part of game show culture and everything else culture to value the game and the money over anything else. However even watching those games and even his games you'll see quite a few people that value other things over the money.

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lemmy.world

I was born in the '70s. I grew up on those game shows. They do not hold a candle to the brazen contempt for humanity that Mr Beast videos have.

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titanicxreply
lemmy.zip

Huh. You must be watching something far different then what I've seen.

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Aulireply
lemmy.ca

Game shows are tame. I mean fear factor being the exception that was a fucking disgusting show. But what can you expect with who was hosting it.

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And doing this stuff that he does for these guys is pretty tame oh don't leave a plane for 24 hours oh don't leave a grocery store for 2 days you know different stuff like that I don't see anything that is out of the ordinary. They used to do the things all the time and I've even seen them live where it's like hey come touch this car and the last person standing gets it stuff like that where people are literally passing out and everything like that they've been doing that since like the you know 40s 50s 60s stuff like that none of this stuff is new is my point.

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The game shows we air on mainstream TV in Germany are so vanilla in comparison to that (essentially whos going to be a millionair).
And if we air things like Takeshis Castle, we usually import and dub over them. Usually they get the night time slot (22:00 - 05:00), usually on private channels. Prime time (20:15) is very rare for that beyond specialized channels.

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lemmy.world

That it's "always been" doesn't make it any more acceptable. I'm not sure what you're saying here.

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Simply that the take on them destroying society because they are taking a small handful of people and putting them in a competition isn't accurate at all.

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lemmy.today

This guy has half a dozen people locked up for "content". Is anyone else seeing how this is hugely problematic?

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Hoimoreply
ani.social

Yes, in fact there's a whole genre of video essay where people explain how Mr Beast is problematic.

But to be fair, he's just an extension of the last 30 years of reality tv. Lure some desperate people with a large sum of cash, make them suffer in front of the camera, edit liberally, air for the entertainment of millions.

Additionally, one of the most popular tv shows of the decade is a criticism of exactly this phenomenon. Mr Beast did a whole tv series that tried to be Squid Game unironically, completely missing the moral of the story and spawning another round of criticism. Something something Guy Debord, something Jean Baudrillard something.

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At least Mr Beast is giving decent payouts... Meanwhile UK has stuff like get married to a stranger and pressured into having sex or just outright raped. There is no payout, all you seem to get is the wedding, a week holiday and a few weeks in an apartment block.

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Hoimoreply
ani.social

I never know which is which. I've read both The Society of the Spectacle and Simulacra and Simulation but I don't think I understood any of it, so a vague allusion is the best I can do. I understood a lot more of the 2016 documentary HyperNormalization, which is a synthesis of both? (I understood neither, so I'm just guessing there.)

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lemmy.world

If the people are doing it voluntarily, and the minor(s) have parental consent, I don't see the issue. I doubt they have no way to leave early.

Now, it may be problematic from a societal standpoint, that people want to do such a thing because they don't make enough money.

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lemmy.zip

I feel like there are various pieces of cinema pointing out why this is very fucking problematic

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matlagreply
sh.itjust.works

Hunger games. I remember a Youtuber predicting Mr Beast will end up organizing some Hunger games!

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lemmy.world

Some dude who agreed to one of these extended challenges released a video exposing the behind the scenes abuse they do to get you to stay as long as possible so they get more content from you. Their whole investment of time and hype isn’t worth it if you leave after a few days like you’re tempted to. It was pretty disturbing, I believe it’s still on YouTube.

The only set ups that aren’t as abusive imo are the ones that can only last so long and are in public. I believe one was whoever keeps their hand on the car the longest wins the car. That one is pretty harmless with a decent pay off.

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tyrannyreply
crazypeople.online

if you can remember the name of the video or channel, I'd like to give it a wat h

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That's precisely the point of the proplem: he exploits misery and dreams of wealth in a society that by design creates misery and glorifies money.

Imagine someone neeeding the money to save an ill relative. Would you still call it"voluntarily"?

And all those kids who dream of getting rich by suffering on video, what kind of value is that promoting?

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It would be pointless if they had no way to leave early. The entire premise is that they have to voluntarily endure the situation for the reward.

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Sounds like you haven't watched Black Mirror. Most episodes are worth a watch, but for this conversation, I recommend starting with Series 7 Episode 1.

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

Ahhh, I always wondered who watches the super high views, super shitty clickbait garbage. Turns out it's the same people who play the f2p-but-it's-all-microtransactions games.

Depressing.

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feddit.dk

There's a pretty big viewerbase of toddlers, that's not the Mr Beast territory. That's the unboxing toys kinds of videos, somewhat due to them almost being incapable of leaving a loop

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programming.dev

I was those kids 20 years ago, creators definitely went bizarro with their stuff.

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piefed.social

I know someone who's 28. She doesn't work, has a well-off partner and is behaving like a child/teenager. So uh, yeah, checks out only kids (actual or otherwise) watch him. The rest of us are grossed out by the idea and creeped out by his soulless eyes.

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lemmy.world

A criminal living in a jail? Truly revolutionary stuff

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infosec.pub

With a cop in the same cell? Probably not very common, but seeing that this is show with cameras around, I don't expect anything genuine

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infosec.pub

Right, and how commonly they're put in the same cell? Last I checked, they commonly get special treatment

EDIT: Nevermind, I completely missed the joke because I live in a country that respects police since they actually serve the public

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Northern Europe. Or East Europe depending on who you ask. Baltics.

EDIT: Just to elaborate with some exceptions: I ride an illegal Ebike, but police knows this and has pretty much made a verbal exception because I'm always respectful of others, don't break laws, don't speed, I've been riding it for a decade with multiple random stops and checks and explanations, etc. - always everything being good except for the voltage of my ebike, but I do live in a rural region where after I leave small city of 10k, I have to drive 7km to my home and I can't drive a car due to medical condition. They have always been understanding.

Another one is that each time I've had to call them, they genuinely showed real interest and all problems were promptly solved - flooding from neighbouring farm after they messed with dams, some jackasses using shitty rural roads as dragstrip (probably saved their lives), laptop theft

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lemmy.today

Because he's just a boy in a basement. Don't judge, you'd keep a boy in a basement if you could, too.

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If you criticize him for having a boy in a basement that just means you're jealous of his success

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Abyssianreply
lemmy.world

Wait, you guys don't already have a basement boy? What do you use to get rid of the scary spiders and cobwebs down there?

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Okokimupreply
lemmy.world

I keep spiders in the basement to keep all the boys away.

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Janxreply
piefed.social

That's like the Bizarro World version of milkshakes in the yard.

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Sanctusreply
anarchist.nexus

My spiders scare all the boys from the yard

And their like, real fucken tall

They could eat you, cause they got big jaws

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^Ace. Though works better s/from/to/, since "I keep spiders in the basement to keep all the boys away."

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khanniereply
lemmy.world

I think so unfortunately.

I recall hearing about the pilot one as the twist was that his family was waiting outside as the end approached and this sick fuck tried to get him to stay in longer for more money.

Haven't heard of the others mind you. They're on brand for him though.

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Oh he "donates" money*

*to his friends, acting as strangers in his videos.

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lemmy.world

Why any of these? I am confused. Seems like anyone living in a gym and being paid money would lose weight. They all sound pretty stupid.

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lemmy.world

Jimmy is a fucking idiot. See any of the behind the scenes stuff and weird attempts at making Beast Games work. No planning, no actual experience with logistics, game design, filming, editing, etc.

He's just some schmuck with money, and people keep giving him more.

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He's just some schmuck with money

To his credit, he did come up with the perfect formula to get kids’ attention. If you look at his first videos and compare it to the recent ones, it’s insane the difference. Nowadays there isn’t a wasted second, no moment for a thought to begin to bubble in your head.

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Because it's not supposed to make sense as a game concept. It's just supposed to generate a video that will get clicks. That it doesn't make sense for the actual contestant isn't a factor.

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They gonna give the contestants challenge and set them up to fail by mentally torturing them.

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I lost 100 pounds (and still losing), and never set foot in a gym. Where's my $500K?

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Fuck... I had a thought that ended with that concept, just earlier today. My end-thought was kinda like, "would you walk away from Omelas with me?"

It was a day for me; but what a small (fucked up) world

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lemmy.world

Completely out of the loop:

Who's Mr Beast, what does he do, why should I know him?

What does it mean "I have"? What does he have? A new type of game show? A movie, book, play, game?

Is this real or satire?

Edit: Thanks everybody! Seems like I missed nothing.

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

Being serious:

  • started as a YouTuber that did trend videos like "I did the latest trend, but did it BIGGER"
  • figured out a (very exploitative) formula for maximising viewer retention whilst getting as many sponsorship deals into a video as possible
  • Became the first YouTube Millionaire
  • Started amping up this formula by making the challenges shocking and attention grabbing, such as "I PUT 10 PEOPLE IN AN UNLOCKED HOTEL ROOM, LAST TO LEAVE GETS $5 MILLION"
  • realised he could wash his terrible reputation by occasionally releasing a charity video instead, kept it being exploitative though, his most famous example was "I CURED THE BLINDNESS OF 100 PEOPLE" (all blind because they had treatable, easily, diseases but American Healthcare is so exploitative they couldn't afford to get the treatment)
  • Managed to get a TV series called "Beast Games" that's this but TV

He's basically everything wrong with YouTube rolled into one person

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lemmy.today

I barely know who Mr Beast is, I've NEVER seen one of his videos, but Publix had one of his candy bars on their Clearance Shelf (I love the Clearance Shelf), and it was really good chocolate, much more like European Chocolate. It was smoother without that vomity alkaline taste that American chocolate has, that we've all gotten used to.

It didn't turn me into a fan, but his chocolate bar was actually really good.

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lemmy.world

It's definitely not really good and like European, but it is a step above Hershey. It sits somewhere in the middle. If you found it cheap it was probably a good value.

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I waited to try "dubai chocolate" until it made it to the discontinued shelf. I should have waited even longer.

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Very much agree. As a UK bod, American chocolate bars generally taste like poison and smell like sick.

My kids were big fans of Mr Beast when the chocolate bars came out, so of course we had to buy it when we saw it. And honestly, it was actually really good.

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Agent641reply
lemmy.world

That is Lucifer, the great beast, the biblical devil. Hence "Mr Beast". He revealed himself to humanity in the mid 2010s, expecting to incite the apocalypse. But everyone was already pretty shook at the general state of the world, so nobody cared. He still tries to shock the world with diabolical stunts, but he really just can't compete with politicians and billionaires. Kind of tough to see, tbh. Kinda sad.

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He really has to up his game if he wants to compete with the state of the world.

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He runs a poverty porn channel - do this thing and if you do it you get money. He pretends its about altruism but its about clicks. Oh and he's also been closely associated with a number of crypto scams where a coin is launched and then rugpulled.

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lemmy.ml

He's a YouTuber who does "game shows" with concepts like in this post. The tweet might be fake though, OP didn't post a link.

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Note, he's not just 'a YouTuber', he is currently the most popular one by quite a margin.

Note that this doesn't mean his content is good or worthwhile.

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I have only vague knowledge, but I think it's real. He's a twat that a huge number of kids look up to, who is essentially the end boss of capitalistic decay.

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He's a wildly popular streamer guy that does wacky shit like this and it somehow translate to lots of views/money. I didn't know who he was for a very long time to many peoples' surprise. I was truly disappointed he didn't look like Beast from the X-men.

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The only thing I know about him is that he is very good at Dune Imperium board game and he hosted multiple tournaments for it.

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programming.dev

The secret with the guy in the gym is he started out at only 90 pounds. To win any money he will have to become antimatter

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vrekreply
programming.dev

Don't be matter phobic, antimatter lives matter too

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lemmy.zip

This is antima propaganda. Antima is a terrorist organization, unlike the patriotic Proton Boys.

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vrekreply
programming.dev

That took me way too many readings to understand you were joking

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Yeah, I really enjoy dry sarcasm, but it doesn’t always come across in text. That one’s on me. My bad.

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jlai.lu

A 2.5M jet's gonna cost so much in maintenance, if the pilot gets it, it's gonna ruin them :|

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Uh if you can pilot that jet and own it outright, you have a whole-ass business. They'll be fine.

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lemmy.world

yeah, at that point you just gotta sell it off. Hell, sell it off half price and you still get life changing money.

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He'll have to sell it to cover his federal income tax bill. Or more likely mortgage it if he's planning his own business around the aircraft.

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I have a pilot where one beast is captured and chained by each limb to ratchets. Ever 100 likes tightens a ratchet one notch. Which limb will give out first? Will the beast survive?

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lemmy.zip

The first thing i think about when I see this is npt Squid game but The ones who walk away from Omelas

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sh.itjust.works

Did Mr. Beast just use the words cop and criminal interchangeably? Or am I misunderstanding something.

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programming.dev

Probably means a cop and a criminal living in a shared cell.

Which I don't think is fair, that person is in a lot of physical danger of violence. What did that criminal do to deserve such treatment?

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white_nrdyreply
programming.dev

Potentially. The cop is definitely a criminal, however the other person might be a "criminal"

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I interpreted that as likely meaning a corrupt cop who'd been caught committing crimes.

Not that the ambiguity of that caught my attention more than the boy.

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lemmy.world

$2.5 m for a private jet seems really low

Probably a piece of shit

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It's low for a new jet, used jets lose a lot of their value over time and there are a lot of them. For 2.5m you're probably looking at a used business class jet, like a Lear 31, or a Hawker 800. Some sort of private plane that was owned and used by a corporation.

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Eh, that's a pretty standard price for an entry-level used jet.

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