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I gave away everything but a bowl to hold my water, but I saw a boy drink water from only his hands.

How have become so materialistic?

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I think the owala is almost perfect. Owala is probably the most revolutionary out of all the previous ones. The crazy downside is you can't put hot water in it

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Middle class white women are like men who only play AAA shooters or sports games and kids with most things; they see something that's becoming popular and latch onto it like parasites and make it their whole personality.
There are many other groups of people loke this bit I'm too fucking tired ATM and already in bed to list any more, it's all just a never ending thing.

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I purchased an RTC stainless steel insulated tumbler in 2015. It's the only cup I ever use and it's still going strong after daily use and still looks brand new. Was 20 bucks (they were clearly undercutting Yeti at the time). It's been a solid purchase, I think the same cup from them now runs 40 bucks on Amazon.

Then again I'm still using the same plastic ninja turtle bowl I got from a box of Cookie Crisp cereal in 1988... So anything will last a very long time with care.

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dogs0nreply
sh.itjust.works

Barbarians could only hope for all those microplastics. You are one level up, my friend.

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I should level up to mason jar and make cops think I'm downing moonshine in broad daylight.

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lemmy.ca

I'm a poor consumer. I have my first insulated coffee cup from about 25 years ago. I bought a second one for tea about 15 years ago. I have had several water bottles of different sizes all from promos that I have kept and used since I received them - the newest is aluminum and 12 years old. The oldest is 25 or 30 years old. Although my husband may make up for my lack of buying - he is always trying out new hydration systems for hiking & biking.

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You can upgrade for cheap to the last fad beverage container by visiting your nearest thrift store. Currently they will a bunch of Stanley cups for very cheap. Your other option is know someone in sales or just walk through a trade show where they will give you swag (junk land fill) which usually includes yeti cups as of late.

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I used a $10 Wal-Mart brand one every day for a few months to make sure I'd actually use it. Then I upgraded to a Stanley when they were on sale since it's also dishwasher safe and the lid on my Walmart one was starting to not seal as well.

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slrpnk.net

No plastic, no aluminum. No glass either just because I'm clumsy. Wide opening only. If I can't fit my hand in to clean it, I don't want it.

I have a 64 oz one, and a 128 oz one. Am aiming for them to be buy-it-for-lifers.

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slrpnk.net

I'm a little concerned about the potential for aluminum toxicity.

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In what way is aluminum toxic?

Edit- I looked it up. If you have kidney disease it can accumulate and cause other problems, but the amount entering the body from aluminum cooking items is incredibly low. I'd imagine even lower from a drinking cup.

source

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Aluminum is not strong enough for me. I need to buy the most indestructible products because I will unintentionally break them. I have broken a nalgene already

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chiliedoggreply
lemmy.world

Absolutely. With proper application, asbestos can make all kinds of products last the rest of your life.

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Anebreply
lemmy.world

Thank god, my water keeps spontaneously combusting now my house is safe from water thanks to asbestos

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lemmy.world

Funny enough this seems rather accurate according to this article. Graphic below from the article linked.

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lemmy.world

That chart is a bit outdated. That might be the millennial moms that pick up the trend late.

All the white Gen Z girls at work have HydroJug now. Owala was a a while back. Stanley was more covid era.

My wife has a fuckin entire cabinet dedicated to her damn cups.

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If I’ve learned anything over the last 8-9 years, it’s that all these bottles are the same damn thing lol. One brand just happens to capitalize on a design trend first and that’s what lands.

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Missed Sigg in there in the mid 2000s. But it and the Nalgene were BPA sources I thought. The rest are dumb, any stainless with a good seal works for me.

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I had some acquaintance who was a hydroflask rep or something in 2017. He saw my 5 year old beat to hell hydro flask ran out to his car and brought me two more for being an "og supporter." I was like I guess this is cool I just hated my water getting warm in plastic ones.

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hactar42reply
lemmy.ml

As a youth girls soccer coach, I'm so glad Stanley's finally stopped being popular. Every girl that brought one to practice would inevitably have it too over and spill. It got to the point where I had to tell parents all water bottles had to have a lid that completely closed.

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I'm a school bus driver. I could have built a house by now entirely made from the water bottles that kids leave behind on my bus. They wouldn't work for the roof, you say? That's what the ear bud cases are for.

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Zwiebelreply
feddit.org

People were drinking water out of those stanley "cups"?

Also as a German, where are:

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kambushareply
sh.itjust.works

I just need to show my appreciation for the fact that these were 4 different images that aligned perfectly in height for me.

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Zwiebelreply
feddit.org

Ok that's your client, they don't align for me :(

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M137reply
lemmy.today

Oh, they're stacked vertically for me (Summit) so I had no idea what you meant by "aligned in height".
Have you seen comments with several images where they don't align? I'm guessing it's an automatic thing where it'll make them the same height no matter the resolution and/or height.
Also odd of you to not say what client you're using.

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I'm American and I fucking love those glass water bottles. I use them everyday, that exact kind.

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Saapasreply
piefed.zip

Hey I got the milk jug one. Got it from a union event

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Lumisalreply
lemmy.world

What's the second one? I've been looking for one like that with a metal screw top

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MrKoyunreply
lemmy.world

welp. this is my introduction to owala. here we go

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I’ve never owned a dedicated water bottle before and decided to get one. At random I picked Owala. I’d never heard of them but liked the way the lid worked. A few weeks later I see Owala everywhere.

I’m right on the front swell of a trend!

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proudblondreply
lemmy.world

I have three of the water bottles on the image and I gotta say, I do really like the Owala. I’m personally a fan of straws but I vastly prefer having something that I can close and throw in a bag without it leaking. The Owala fits that. The only problem I’ve had is if I don’t clean it for a while. I only use water, but after a while the water I drink out of it will start to make my mouth feel dry and taste bad, if that makes any sense at all. I’ve found scrubbing the silicone seal on the lid makes a big difference.

(Also I’m a basic white middle aged bitch so I guess only having three of the bottles in the image is good… right? Bleh.)

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plastic caps or parts are likely to get dirty faster, and you have to clean it out everday, i clean it with dish detergent once in a while as well. i use only hot water to clean.

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Eltingreply
piefed.social

Not me still using the nalgenes despite all the ways they're objectivley bad.

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Eltingreply
piefed.social

I have a similar number actually.

They're hard to clean, especially the lid and threads where your lips end up.

They're strong but brittle, drop a full one on a hard surface and it is likely to shatter

They aren't insulated, meaning they sweat and the water gets warm.

I have broken more of those stupid little straps that hold the lid on then I care to admit.

These newer water bottles seem to have a lot of nice little features that nalgenes don't .

Still they are the most practical and straightforward water bottle, they are allergic to leaking and will last forever (given you dont drop full ones on rocks.)

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semreply
piefed.blahaj.zone

I have had several. The only ways they've died:

Getting soft:

  • Campers leaving them in the sun for a long time
  • Many runs through the sanitizing cycle of the dishwasher

Breaking:

  • The tether for the lid
  • Once and only once, i had a full, dropped nalgene land on the cap at an angle, and shatter the threads/lip. Nalgene sent me a new one -- all they wanted was a picture of the damage.
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Eltingreply
piefed.social

I have really abused their replacement policy. Gotten like 5+ lids from them and two waterbottles. I took a photo of my brothers 20yo nalgene and they sent me a new one lol.

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lemmy.world

Nalgene are hard to clean, wut? Just put a drop of washing up liquid with water and give it a shake and take a soft brush to the threads. Still 10x easier than any other water vessel short of a bucket lol.

Warm water also hydrates better than cold water when you're actually in need too, so I never mind that

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iamthetotreply
piefed.ca

Warm water also hydrates better than cold water when you're actually in need too, so I never mind that

This may be scientifically true, but it can't hydrate me if I don't drink it, and I'm about 1,000x more likely to drink it when it's nice and cold.

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lemmy.world

Not me, but I'll respect a difference of opinion. Drinking cold water on a hot day makes me have to shit immediately. Lukewarm water, I can clear my while 32oz Nalgene in one guzzle, no cap

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that doesnt seem normal, most people dont have this problem. your bottle could be still dirty, or had some bacteria in it. i often drink cold in hot days, i never get this.

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I love a sip of something cold but if I’m drinking water give it to me lukewarm.

I’m with you homie

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Warm water, cold water it's hard to choose when it comes to hydration in a lot of scenarios. Most of the time if you're sweating a lot, chances are you could use both the cooling effect of cold water and the faster hydration. In cold environments that's obviously a no-brainer.

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They're pretty tough. I've ran mine over with a tractor and it dented the bottom, but was otherwise fine. Had that one for 15 years.

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lemmy.world

Plastic. Also, just less easy to drink out of the wide mouth (which obviously has its benefits, and they make the insert to make it easier to drink from, anyway).

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Eltingreply
piefed.social

I like the wide mouth actually, love the sensation of dripping a bunch of water all over my chin in the summer (not joking.) Makes me feel like some kind of water slut.

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The water in them tastes weird from my experience when they gave us some for camping.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

I'm still looking for a fully stainless steel one with a stainless lid that has an unscrewable spout on a hinge like a metal flask, but large and water bottle shaped. All of these have plastic somewhere in the chain.

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lemmy.today

unfortunately those are usually the only good ones. i never seen a metal one with a spout. i have one that insulated , ecovessel that is a fully metal cap you can take off and drink from. something similar to the pic below.

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Yeah, my current favorite bottle is the yeti, but it still has plastic for the lid. If they ever made a stainless lid it'd be pretty close to the perfect bottle. Wide mouth that's super easy to clean, indestructible, replaceable seals, doesn't alter the flavor of the water, even after multiple days. Any bottle with a mouth that doesn't let me get my hand to the bottom, or doesn't let me see every part of every internal surface isn't cleanable enough for me.

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I don't know, that timeline kind of just seems like what's on sale at Costco, which does seem to rotate every few years. Could be a chicken or the egg kind of situation or just simply a people-like-costco kind of observation too.

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Th4tGuyIIreply
fedia.io

Oh my god. I've seen so many unbranded bottles just like the S'Well one and never knew where they came from. Guess I'm one of today's lucky 10,000

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Based on GP comment's image, looks pretty similar to the hydroflask. What's the difference?

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I’m big on the magnetic screw off lid that connects to the side. I love the giant handle on the big lid for carrying and ice keeps way longer, but I’m downing like eight bottles a day so that’s not a big deal.

Only thing is, they’re stinky when new. Gotta soak the gasket in vinegar and wash it a lot.

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Owala actually covering the part that goes in your mouth is pretty dope though. I still use a nalgene that was a swag gift from forever ago, KISS for room temperature water, perfect for the gym.

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lemmy.world

As a middle class, middle age white man I stopped at the hydroflask and yeti on that timeline

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Work for a tech company long enough and you'll have a few of each of these

Source: work for a tech company and have a few of each of these

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I bought in at S'well, am I an early adopter? I'm surprised Mii isn't on the list.

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My partner got me a water bottle in the late 2010s, its still going just fine. Few scratches on the paint now and minor dents in places but that is it.

Could do with an insulated flask that can hold strew. Boil some veg/stock in the morning and pour into the flask, it cooks during the day and can have it as my lunch at work. Similar to cooking in a slow cooker or haybox.

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I'm up to three 30oz Yeti "stackable cups". They're great--insulated, dishwasher safe, durable, replaceable lids, fit in my cup holder, fits my hand.

And then Yeti discontinued the size. (the 30 oz tumbler is a different shape than the stackable cup, it's wider at the bottom and too big for my hands). Grumble.

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I have the same one! Bought it at least 15 years ago.

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piefed.social

It certainly isn't the most appealing sight when I suck on one of these, but damn they're practical.

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sopuli.xyz

Bet the pfas in that dissolve so fast that they teleport straight to your ballsack the day you were born

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Silicone bottles shouldn't contain PFAs.

Then again neither should rivers and streams and fish and your ballsack, so take that with a grain of Teflon.

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LeFrogreply
discuss.tchncs.de

They are peanuts compared to the PFAS you will get from eating animal products, especially fish.

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lemmy.world

Got me a nalgene, with the small opening... I'm not one of those water sluts who enjoy the dribble.

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glitch1985reply
lemmy.world

They make an insert for the wide mouth so you can sip it without water boarding yourself.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Getting splashed in a moving vehicle by the wide mouth ones is so fucking annoying and almost guaranteed.

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Ha, yep. Precovid I was in a suit for work, and I'd show up with just big wet patches on my shirts all the time, so I switched to the narrow mouth, which are more of a pain to clean, but don't have that problem. I now rarely travel for work, so I've been considering going back to the big guy.

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lemmy.world

oh lol. they got my wife at stanley.

she bought 4 (one for everyone in the family) at $40 a piece. in protest, I bought about 10 used quality water bottles from my gyms lost and found sale for $1 each.

all u could see in our cabinets were water bottles. I think my wife gets that we have enough now so I'm safe from the next version...

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Until she "cleans" one day and 3/4 vanish without a trace, lol

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kernellereply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

As long as its insulated so I can drink cold water all day I'm happy

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Grailreply
multiverse.soulism.net

I like room temperature water. An insulated bottle is nice because the water stays room temperature even as the temperature in the room fluctuates.

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ramassesreply

I use an insulated bottle to drink room temperature water. Gotta make sure it stays room temperature.

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Actually though. I work in sun and snow but my drinks are always room temperature

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

I bought some off brand stainless 32oz insulated bottle 12 years ago for around twenty bucks. I fill it with ice and then fill the voids with water, and there is still ice a day and a half later, even at the height of summer. I've been through several universal lids with different designs for various ways to sip and to carry it. I have dropped it from several feet onto concrete a number of times, resulting in denting you can't even really see. I probably got the one gem out of many duds, or one of a good run in production, but I'll be disappointed when it does inevitably fail and I have to get something else.

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feddit.org

I hate it when I stumble upon a well-made item that didn't command a luxury price, and I just know that it won't be available anymore when it eventually breaks. Recently had to get a new PC keyboard, my options were paying 200€ or accepting a feature/usability downgrade ...

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welp, we made a small batch of high quality items, sold them all to everyone that needed them, and I made a neat profit. They aren't buying more because we made them high quality. We done here. I'm not expanding the consumer base, I'm tired.

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feddit.org

A "Logitech Illuminated Keyboard", couldn't even find a more detailed model name. Backlit keys with brightness controlled by buttons on the keyboard, rubberdome keys, corded, and practically silent. You can still find okay keyboards with these kinds of keys that aren't too expensive, but not with lighting.

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Zwiebelreply
feddit.org

The AUDACITY to put RUBBER DOME and QUALITY in the same sentence!!!!!!

(jk jk xD)

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feddit.org

Needs more TAKKA TAKKA TAKKA!

But seriously, I never got on with any mechanical keyboards I tried, I like my keyboards with silence and low key action. Even "silent" mechanical keys aren't that quiet.

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Zwiebelreply
feddit.org

The low action can be had in low-profile switches I suppose. Have you tried lubed silent switches?

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IIRC I tried regular brown switches with rubber rings. I suppose I could try actual low-profile switches, but TBH I'm not very motivated to add another project to my list ...

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I'll stick with my Grayl. No trendy water bottles filter out viruses.

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Here. Got the not quite 2L flip top and its more of a ball than a bottle at this point but I have been given no reason to stop using it.

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egretsreply
lemmy.world

Every new dent is a testament to the amount of service my Kleen Kanteen sees. I'll be devastated if I ever lose it.

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Mine must be around 11 years old now. At some point it couldn't stand upright anymore, so I hit it with a hammer.

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lemmy.ca

Been using that one disposable Evian water bottle I bought at Niagara Falls twenty years ago.

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rbosreply
lemmy.ca

Mmm tasty microplastics.

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I have a collection of knock-off brands from Costco. I like all the pretty colors.

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Anything with a lid roughly like this one. Wide Nalgene-compatible mouth for filling and screwing on the appropriately-sized bottle you feel like that day or had to replace, and has smaller drinking-hole with an attached screw-on cap.

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Oh shit that's my festival bottle. Super easy to fill at whatever jank ass water station setup the venue has, easy to drink from, and I can clip it to a carabiner on my bag strap for hands-free storage 🤘

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I completely missed something with this whole trend. I get wanting to go metal (or glass) to avoid microplastics, but is it all just conspicuous consumption after that, or am I missing something more fundamental?

Meanwhile, I'm only using a steel flask on hiking trips; a freebie from a previous job at that. A coffee cup or glass does the job for me at the office.

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semreply
piefed.blahaj.zone

Here is my guide to what you may be missing, using the the image:

Context:

Pre nalgene mass market water bottles were not durable and tasted gross.

Innovations:

  1. Nalgene innovation: durability, relatively inert plastic
  2. Camelbak eddy innovation: straw
  3. S'well: insulated
  4. Hydroflask: insulated and wide-mouth so you can put ice in it
  5. Simple modern: It fits in a car cupholder (also straw comes back)
  6. Stanley: adds a handle
  7. Owala: ???

For me, i never felt the desire for a straw, so I've done fine preferring Nalgene first and now Hydroflask. Very rarely i lose one, but I'm always getting them as gifts from workplaces, etc.

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Thanks for the thoughtful reply. I had no idea this has been going on for this long, even though all this stuff was in plain sight the whole time.

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Grassreply
sh.itjust.works

When? Are the ones from before the white mom rush okay?

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Saving clicks:

After Stanley fans posted home lead test results on social media, the company confirmed the viral insulated tumblers do contain lead. Here’s what experts are saying.

Stanley, the makers of the tumblers that have become a viral sensation, have come under scrutiny this week. Social media users, specifically on TikTok and Instagram, have been sharing videos showing at-home lead test findings, and the results are worrying faithful Stanley sippers.

Dozens of consumers are posting videos claiming that their tumblers tested positive for lead. It's often unclear from the videos which or how many different brands of at-home lead tests these consumers are using, but to be EPA-certified, home lead tests such as D-Lead must produce an accurate result (when used correctly) 95% of the time. At-home lead tests for drinking water are less reliable.

In response to the claims, Stanley issued a statement about lead in its product.

"At Stanley, one of the key features of our products is our vacuum insulation technology, which provides consumers with drinkware that keeps beverages at the ideal temperature," the company wrote on its website, acknowledging that lead is used in the manufacturing process. The statement continues, "Once sealed, this area is covered with a durable stainless steel layer, making it inaccessible to consumers. Rest assured that no lead is present on the surface of any Stanley product that comes into contact with the consumer nor the contents of the product." 

The BBC reached out to Stanley for additional comment and they responded with the same statement available on their website. The online statement concludes that Stanley products "meet all US regulatory requirements".

What consumers need to know about lead content in drinkware

How much should consumers worry about lead in products, especially those used for eating and drinking? Lead exposure has well-documented health consequences, especially for children. According to The World Health Organization (WHO), "There is no known safe blood lead concentration", and even miniscule amounts found in blood "may be associated with decreased intelligence in children, behavioural difficulties and learning problems".

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), lead exposure can also lead to growth, hearing and speech problems and damage to the brain and nervous system. And in adults, lead exposure can lead to high blood pressure, cardiovascular issues and more. It's dangerous for pregnant persons because lead can be transferred to a developing foetus, and is also associated with a high risk of miscarriage. Additionally, lead poisoning can be fatal.

Thankfully, federal and state laws in the US have drastically helped lower the amount of lead people are exposed to, but it’s still found in some products. The most common place it's still found is in lead-based paint in homes that were built before 1978 (when such paint was banned). The CDC now tracks lead-related product recalls. In the UK, lead pipes were banned in the 1970s but the sale of lead paint wasn’t banned until 1992.

When it comes to the lead in Stanley cups, however, experts aren't too concerned. Jack Caravanos, a professor of public health at New York University who studies the effects of lead exposure, tested three of the cups himself and came up with no lead. He even said he tried to pry the cup open to test the inside, and failed. 

"There appears to be lead, according to the report," Caravanos told the BBC, "but I had trouble detecting it and wasn’t able to detect it using state-of-the-art equipment." He says this is probably because the lead was "too deep inside the unit", meaning it would be very tough to be exposed to it or ingest it.

He added that while he’s not worried about drinking from his own Stanley, he also takes issue with the fact that companies still use lead to manufacture their products at all, and mentioned that under Proposition 65, products sold in California need to disclose if they contain even trace amounts of lead. Stanley's brand FAQs state that "all Stanley items comply with Prop 65 and FDA requirements."

Patty Davis, press secretary for the US Consumer Product Safety Commission, says that while she can't comment on the lead in Stanley products, similar products from other companies with "excessive levels of lead", such as a kids' cup sold on Amazon by Klickpick, among others, have recently been recalled.

"We ask consumers to report incidents or safety concerns with consumer products to CPSC at www.SaferProducts.gov. They can also search for product recalls there," she told the BBC. 

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I got an owala at sams club ages ago and the isulation is crazy on those things. I once forgot it at work and it still had ice in it a full day (like 20+ hours) when I went to get it

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sh.itjust.works

I've been using Doppers ever since I got like 4 gifted to me in two years. After I bought one, of course.

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lemmy.world

Dopper(s?) gets nasty around the sealing ring eventually. Mine turned algae-green with no way to properly get it off; I didn't manage to clean it anyways.

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sh.itjust.works

I can remove the ring on all of mine? Just put something pointy under it and pull it out. You can even order replacements.

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