You can see how polarized this opinion is. Not speaking ill of the dead is a religious power thing. The idea that all deaths deserve a quiet respect is pushed by a class of elderly people in positions of power.
You can bet that when Donald Trump dies there will be parties. Some humans have no redeeming qualities and that needs to be acknowledged more. Peter Thiel, Elon Musk need to know NOW how people will regard them after death as the cancers of society they were.
I am fully aware that trying to be a good human results in bad humans taking advantage of me often. I am not blind to it. But being a good human means that is going to happen for as long as bad humans keep being bad humans.
I will not stoop to being a bad human just because bad humans treat me badly. I want to be a good human, and that means being a good human even to the bad humans. I don't agree with what they do or think or believe, nor do I think that me being a good human will force anyone to change. Though some bad humans might change and become good humans, I don't have to become a bad human just because you don't see things the same way I do. You can live as you want and I will live as I want. And I want to be a good human, so I will try to live that way as best as I can.
As a side note, I am appreciative that hopefully nobody will piss on me, regardless of if I am on fire or not. I would much rather put the fire out myself jumping into nearby water, rolling on the floor, removing burning garments, etc. I really would like to avoid being pissed on, thank you. You may be into that, but I am not.
being happy that legitimately bad people are dead by their own actions doesn't make one bad themselves
claiming some supposed moral high ground by continuously turning the other cheek is a mood for sure
you want to be taken advantage of fine, you do you but i’m annoyed i have to deal with the consequences of people like you burying your head in the ground, because our society is surely crumbling while people like that rich fuck take advantage of us all and people like you do less than nothing
i’m just going to ignore the nonsense in the last paragraph because i can’t tell if this is genuine autism or not
I am fully aware that trying to be a good human results in bad humans taking advantage of me often. I am not blind to it. But being a good human means that is going to happen for as long as bad humans keep being bad humans.
Being good to bad people does nkt make you better. It makes you be easier to be used.
Taking a steaming dump on their graves is keeping our dignity.
This man didn't give a tin shit about me, you, or anyone else while he lived. Why do we owe him decorum and consideration just because he got himself killed?
I don't play Ubisoft games. I don't have a horse in that race.
He's awful because he was one of the money-addicted ownership class that collectively are ruining our world to fuel their addictions. Everyone in that class is a piece of shit and I don't find much value in trying to determine the particular vintage of shit we're dealing with. There are no "good guys" here.
I won't wish death or harm on any of them, but I'll certainly not shed a tear if karma gets them.
I think you and I would agree that billionaires aren't people, and I long for the day in which we dismember them and feed them to the pigs, but this guy wasn't a billionaire. He was a successful video game developer who co-founded an awful company.
I'm not saying he was a saint, I don't mourn his passing, but I'm also not celebrating his death as his crimes pale in comparison to the ruling class.
He was a member of the ruling class. What the hell are you talking about? He was a board member and co-founder of a corporation with a valuation in the billions of dollars. Yeah, sure, he wasn't a billionaire but they aren't the only problem. He certainly had a lot less in common with poors like you and me, especially since the corporation he was part of wasn't exactly championing labor rights.
And yeah I'm sure I do need therapy. But guess what's one of many things I can't afford thanks to rich assholes like this guy?
It's a matter of scale, and what they do with the money. Wealth hoarding has reached the point where it's a cause of inflation. The top 1% (and even moreso, the 1% of that 1%) have hoarded ao much wealth, and do nothing but essentially sit on that wealth, that it makes life more expensive for all of us in the working class.
Strictly speaking, yes they absolutely are hurting someone. Wage theft is a significant issue we face today.
Actually yeah, and aside from being co-founder of Ubisoft with his brothers I couldn't find much. He ran some other audio company. Literally nothing that justifies people talking about shitting on his grave.
I never defended him. Just because I am sending his family my condolences doesn't mean I agree with what he did or believed, it only means that I am trying to be a good human.
Casually comparing a game company founder to a brutal dictator who started a devestating war and an industrialized genocide is as strech to say the least.
This thread, the comments, and the people who post them, would be fascinating subjects for a sociological-psychological study.
Just to make sure I'm not misunderstood: I'm calling out the people who are proverbially dancing on the victims' graves (yes, there were two fatalities). Regardless of your feelings for one or the other, you are celebrating the loss and pain of their friends and families. Frankly it's disgusting behaviour.
This is why I hate Lemmy sometimes. "It's wrong to wish people dead, except for 'them'. 'They' are fare game." It's the same BS we've been doing for the whole history of our miserable species.
I don't see anyone criticizing people for not being sad. There's a difference between that and criticizing people for being jubilant (not just not sad) about death.
I had this attitude 20 years ago. I no longer do. I've come to realize that there are certain rich fucks who are actively harming humanity directly (Hitler, Kissinger, Reagan, world leaders who send the poor to useless wars), and if they died and their death prevented more suffering, that's a good thing for humanity. Even the rich fucks that just hoard money are actively robbing from the poor to do so, and some of those people die as a result.
How many people does a person have to kill before they are too far gone to save, and are just evil? How many levels of indirection does it take before they wouldn't be considered evil? What happens if a person indirectly kills millions of people? Is that still far enough to call them evil?
These are the questions you should ask yourself when you try to plot out your own moral compass.
Poor folks go through a lot as a result of being poor. It's hard to express how miserable the constant stress is, and it's not hard to understand how constant stress and the things we do to try and cope with it directly shorten lives.
Yeah, merely inflicting suffering on innocent people isn't quite as bad as killing them outright but it's such a small difference that I don't see a lot to be gained from trying to differentiate them.
Wait, why do you hate lemmy for this? I think who you actually hate are humans. Reddit and all the other modern social media platforms have the same issues, because they too have humans.
Because most of us got banned on Reddit for speaking out.
I guess I have to tolerate limpdicked equivocation and "let's all be sad some rich asshole carked it" on reddit but why here? Those spineless losers can fuck off back to reddit.
Yes, but this is just the cherry on top of a steaming turd sundae of other issues I have with Lemmy that I won't rehash again here. It's not like my complaining will change anything anyway.
Compare these reactions to the Ubisoft subreddit, which granted are going to skew fanward. On /r/games the conversation seems to be mixed, with a few dancing on his grave, most expressing dismay at his death while still acknowledging the harm he did to the company and industry as a whole. Plenty of people are simply discussing the dangers of small aircraft.
if you can burry your head in the sand enough to be upset about people celebrating the death of rich fuck wads in 2026 just put said head back in the ground
That pretty much nails my feelings. Charlie Kirk is a huge piece of shit and I'm glad he died honestly. But I'd be a worse person if I made a personality out of mocking him for being dead. Can't we just take the win? Fate decided a bad person was over. I wish that could be that.
Before 2016 (and to an even greater degree, 2025), I would never have wished death on another person. However, the last ten years have been very eye opening for me. There are people whose continued existence on this mortal plane is the direct cause of untold hatred, suffering, and death (all unnecessary).
Humanity, and quite literally the planet itself, would be much better off with them dead. And, in fact, their continued existence is a direct threat to all life on this planet.
Whether or not it's healthy is a separate question. I can't say I'm super happy about it. But it is what it is.
Yes, there are degrees and this Ubisoft guy isn't on the same level as, say, Trump or Stephen Miller. But they are both cancers on humanity, maybe just different "stages."
Charlie Kirk was okay with people dying from gun violence if it meant fewer restrictions on guns. He fought against minority groups' rights. He was spreading dangerous rhetoric worldwide.
The Ubisoft guy helped found a popular video game company and was probably just a generic rich prick at worst.
The world is better off without Charlie Kirk. I doubt the world, let alone the video game industry, let alone even just Ubisoft, will get any better after today thanks to Guillemot's death.
I mean, yeah, Kirk was unquestionably the bigger turd but I'm happy both are gone. They're all part of the same overarching issue with this world.
Them just fixing their shit would be greatly preferable. But they wouldn't be part of the problem for very long if they were capable of that kind of introspection.
Is it unhealthy to be gleeful for the death of someone who promotes and spreads violent and hateful rhetoric and got hoist by his own petard? This is different than being gleeful about the death of someone who is making a hobby worse in one specific company.
Stop hating Lemmy. For me, it's my way of communicating that I'm a Misanthropic Anti-Natalist. I can do my part to sway the public opinion that humans should all go extinct. I can spread the idea of humans being the monsters, the true enemies of the planet and all it's life. I can see it slowly taking hold of the world, people coming to terms with our monstrous nature. Someday in the far future, perhaps we all choose to self-terminate. We are not divine nor special, just meat.
documented recent speculation that we don't know he was involved with? his brother yves was the ceo at the time of all this drama. Claude was just a stakeholder.
it's clear that nobody knew who the fuck he was before this thread and suddenly everybody is trying to spin a story
Claude was a director and deputy CEO. He was on the board. He was directly involved in the technical and business management side for years. Calling him just a stakeholder undercuts his own opinion on what he did at Ubisoft as he expressed in a few interviews himself throughout the years.
Just because you didn't know who he was doesn't mean the rest of us didn't. Yes Yves was the face and CEO, and thus the person directly named in the lawsuit because that's how it works, but Claude was often cited as the quiet force behind Yves anchoring him, serving as operations officer, advisor, and other titles over time.
Fuck billionaires and fuck nobility. Trying to tone police everyone else doesn't hide the harm that they've done to society. Would you do the same if Putin was assassinated tomorrow and lead to the end of the Russia's invasion of Ukraine?
One is a military invasion of a sovereign nation and war crimes committed against civilians bordering on genocide.
The other is making games with bad monetization and bad business practices.
The fact that you would equate the two shows that you don't possess the moral integrity, rationality, or intelligence of a well-adjusted adult. Have a horrible day.
Please don't downplay the harmful pracrices those leaders/executives have on teens and children. They are actively exploting them for money. Just because the harm isn't immediately visible, doesn't mean it won't have lasting effects.
The other is making games with bad monetization and bad business practices.
You're horribly underplaying what the Guillermot family has done as the heads of Ubisoft. There's plenty of articles that have come out about how they're actively (and illegally) suppressing unionization in Ubisoft. They're also actively lobbying to prevent regulation in the US and Europe.
But of course you didn't include that because it doesn't support your argument. Just shut up you intellectually and morally bankrupt bootlicker
Why do so many "important" people die in plane crashes in the past couple of decades?
Andy Cecere (2026 - US Bank)
Joshua Base (2026 - Capital Factory)
Christophe de Margerie (2014 - Total energies)
Petr Kelner (2021 - PPF Group)
Kobe Bryant (2020)
Glen de Vries (2021 - Medidata Solutions)
Gary Knopp ( 2020 - politician)
Steve Appleton (2012 - Micron CEO)
Cheryl heinze ( 2012 - politician)
Alison Des Forges ( 2009 - human right investigator)
Beverly Eckert (2009 - activist on 9/11 committee)
wilhemson executives in 2012
Now the CEO of Ubisoft in 2026
That is just in the US, so many other rich businessmen have also died in plane crashes in other countries. Romania, Italy, Brazil, Russia, etc... Are aircraft crashes just way more common than the companies want us to believe? I was always told that airplanes were statistically safer than cars.
Also why are plane crashes so often surrounded in suspicious circumstances like the IBM plane crash where a ton of executives were killed and immediately following the other IBM execs pivoted the company focus (which kind of led to their downfall in the consumer market).
"Look at all these things that happened! There must be something more to this! It's too much of a coincidence! CONSPIRACY!"
Did you know shark attacks increase alongside ice cream sales? By that logic, there must be some secret alliance between Big Ice Cream and the shark cabal.
Or maybe both go up because it's summer and more people are at the beach.
The same thing happens with plane crashes involving wealthy people. Rich people fly far more than the average person, and they often fly private aircraft, which have a higher accident rate than commercial airlines.
Not every cluster of events is evidence of secret black-ops CIA assassinations. Sometimes a correlation is just a correlation, and sometimes a streak of bad luck is just a streak of bad luck.
About a decade ago I attended a week-long reliability training held by ASQ (the American Society for Quality). One day heading back to my hotel room I shared an elevator with the then-president-chairman of ASQ.
He was chatting about airliner safety, and how the engineers would do things like test/measure/calculate to find the necessary thickness of a part, and then just triple it for safety because they could. He said he'd never hesitate to ride a commercial airliner.
He then said he would never ride in a helicopter as long as he lived, lol.
Honestly the only helicopters I'd trust are VTOLs that lean more toward the plain side of things, mostly because then they can glide and don't just rush towards the ground.
I was just reading a story about some sky divers who died in a plane crash shortly after launch.
It said the non commercial airliner stuff isn't held to the same regulatory standards, and these smaller outfits often fudge or push safety things off and whatever state / agency it was said it couldn't say these types of services offering flights are safe because of it.
That's the wrong question to ask. "important people are more likely to be in a plane than unimportant people" is valid as a partial explanation only if we assume that all aircrafts have similar crash probabilities and are flown with a similar number of passengers.
The frequency with which I personally fly does not impact how often other people fly. All it does is give you one data point on how often other people in my situation might fly, and we don't know how many others are in my situation, so that information is also useless.
Let us assume 2 people fly in planes. One of them does so 10 times a month. The other 10 times a year. The risks are higher for the 10 times a month flyer.
In a world where there are exactly two people who ever fly, that would make sense. Now what if there are 12 people who fly 10 times a year a 1 person who flies 10 times a month? Will it be more likely that someone in the group of 12 dies in a plane crash, or the one person who flies 10 times a month?
I see what you’re saying but it’s splitting hairs. The rich guy uses an airplane more often that others do so he’s more likely to die in a plan crash simply because he’s more likely to be a plane the first place.
Also also. You have a 17 year span of time for 13 people that died in a plane crash. That's less than one person a year on average. I'd say that's pretty freaking safe compared to other modes of travel like automobiles or through The Warp.
Rich fucks just fly more overall. While flying is very safe. If you do it more, then it is more likely you will be the one in the plane when the rare thing goes wrong. Quirks of privilege.
Importantly, they tend to fly private aircraft, which I have recently learned are not as safe as commercial airliners. Commercial flights are subject to countless safety checks and have redundancies for days.
The titan sub failed in part because stockton Rush (I couldn’t think of a more posh name if I tried) assumed the similarly impeccable record of submarines was due to something other than scrupulous safety margins.
Commercial airplane crashes always make big news and their crashes in the past always caused improved regulations to the point where there is little left to improve
Private airplanes, on the other hand, different story
It might just be a frequency illusion or something, but it has seemed like airplane crashes in the US have skyrocketed in the past few years (surely it has nothing to do with the Republican party gutting regulation). And looking at where most of the dates in your comment fall, I wonder if it's just a probability thing.
Commercial aviation is much safer than cars because there are strict procedures and oversight that applies to everyone involved - not only pilots, but the entire operational chain. It isn't exactly the same when it comes to small business jets.
wasnt kobe a helicopter accident. and people glossed over the fact that he allegations of SA in the past when he died, the news sure sweeps SA under the rug pretty quick.
I live near an airport that has a private aircraft and jet show every summer. Half the booths are about safety, including whole plane parachutes. This is a well known problem.
I'd have agreed with you if he was the direct cause of some people death, like that asshole that got Luigi-ed, but he is not. He sure took decisions that ended up making subpart games, fucked over devs, and all.
He's a capitalist shark like there are thousands of others, but does that warrant death?
People like you are the cause why fascism is on the rise. No humanity, no regrets, no actions taken, until it affects you personally.
Few billionaires are direct causes of anyone dying. However, they're always indirect causes of lots of people dying, by their own choice.
Is there a meaningful difference between shooting somebody and poisoning the food and water of 10 random people? Maybe. Maybe not. Ultimately, you're choosing to take people's lives, knowing the outcome.
I don't think people care about whether you're a 'direct' cause, as much as they care about whether or not you're a deliberate cause.
All of us will probably cause some deaths as we go about our lives. But at no point do most of us make a decision to end someone's life. Whereas billionaires do make the decisions, and they do it completely voluntarily, seeking profit. They often seem happy about the decisions too.
Hard to say. Suicides rarely have a single cause. A layoff can be a trigger, but you rarely kill yourself from that alone if you life a pretty decent life outside of work.
Usually I go with "you are responsible of your own actions and words, not what other do or says about it". So unless he personally pushed someone to suicide, or ordered someone to be bullied to the point of suicide, no, I don't think he'd be responsible.
And what are you talking about? Our current case of fascism is a direct result of unregulated capitalism, courtesy of neoliberalism.
Not gonna argue on that because it is true. Still, fascism wouldn't strive as it does without those who only logic is "I don't like them so he deserves to die".
That's the logic behind german innaction when jews were getting oppressed, and I prefer fight that now than wait for it to be the majority logic.
Being angry at capitalist excess is a good thing. Saying that someone dying horribly is ok because you disagreed with how it ran is business isn't.
Fascist rely on that communitarian instinct to trives. Nazism rise came partly from clever propaganda gymnastic.
To the rich, they said the problem was bolcheviks who spread unrest into the masses. To the poors, they said it was the rich jews who fattened on their labor.
To both they found a scapegoat remote enough to avoid having them interact enough to realize fascism bullshit, and that's how they won.
Fascism always tries to dehumanise part of society to make them the scapegoat for real issues, and gain momentum.
Refusing those easy narrative is the first and more important step to refuse fascism.
you’ve ‘moderated’ multiple comments in this thread
Both broke the community rules, and many more probably does, but we (the mod team, I'm not the only one out there) only removed the worst of them
i have no idea why you feel the need to defend rich trash
this wasn’t a good man
I defend my humanity, which includes having the minimal decency of not dancing on somone else grave. Even the worst asshole on earth deserves decency in death. That's includes you.
but you expecting people to give up their lives to rehabilitate shit birds is pretty lmao
If it works, it is worth it.
and unless you yourself are doing so, it’s also hypocritical
I volunteers for other causes (helping elders, sometimes migrants, to learn to use computers, as well as occasionally helping my dad who volunteers at the red cross). Everyone got a way they can help others, but I doubt a klansman would listen to someone like me, despite being a white male.
expecting anyone to dox themselves to full internet to prove a point is crazy naive and even more lmao
I never expected that. I just said that laughing at someone contribution to society is at best petty.
I’m not saying he was a good guy, but he ain’t a war criminal and was maybe really nice for all we know so I don’t really understand how you can be happy about such news.
He and his brothers still maintain control of Ubisoft (even through an attempted hostile takeover). It's been shown in documents that management have known about but ignored the pervasive sexual misconduct there (in fact promoting the abusers) as well as extensive union busting, employee abuse, on top of the numerous lawsuits for selling/mismanaging customer data, rug pulls with games, and more. Claude Guillemot was an active founding member of the company and maintained his involvement throughout.
Those alone I believe earn the ire thrown at them. I personally add the moral failings of their early overenthusiastic adoption of NFTs and AI.
They very much are a part of the abusive wealthy class treating the world as their personal misogynistic playground.
To argue he was "maybe really nice" is to straight up ignore his hand in all of that. Try again.
I don't know enough about this guy, specifically, to say he directly deserved it. But that doesn't mean I'm going to feel sad about it, because I know enough to know that he chose to be a part of the systematic dismantling of workers rights within capitalism (among lots of other bad shit that he had voluntarily made himself a part of).
I did a search for his name alongside the sexual harassment accusations, and I don't see his name listed anywhere. It's suspicious that so many around him are accused, but I don't see Claude named anywhere.
So the estimated 8781 people with the Guillemot name and others with the variations "Guilaume, Guillaume, Guilaum, Guillamauax, Guillemot, Guillaumie, Guillaumes, Guillaumaud, Guillaumaut, Guillaumard, Guillaumart, De Guillaume" are all evil slaver beneficiaries?
I just can't find anything else on the lineage or where the Ubi Guillamot-brothers' parents' wealth came from.
All I'm going to say is that I was a lead developer for Ubisoft at one point; You may imagine how I feel about this news.
Ok look, I hate Ubisoft, but this is sad. My condolences to his family. People being happy about this are disgusting.
It's so easy to not be a parasite. And yet this person chose to do it anyway.
Not gonna say I'm happy, but I will not shed a tear for the people who are actively making this planet literally unlivable.
I am just indifferent.
As I am to any other death I see in the media, newspaper etc. that isnt within my actual family.
I agree.
maybe you should actually look into the kind of human this person was
the world is a better place without him
What kind of human was he?
This is the kind of disgusting behavior that perpetuates people treating each other so horribly.
You can see how polarized this opinion is. Not speaking ill of the dead is a religious power thing. The idea that all deaths deserve a quiet respect is pushed by a class of elderly people in positions of power.
You can bet that when Donald Trump dies there will be parties. Some humans have no redeeming qualities and that needs to be acknowledged more. Peter Thiel, Elon Musk need to know NOW how people will regard them after death as the cancers of society they were.
rich greedy people are going to treat you the same regardless
you are simping for a man that wouldn’t pee on you to put you out if you were on fire
how naive must you to be to think bring nice to them will change their behavior
I am fully aware that trying to be a good human results in bad humans taking advantage of me often. I am not blind to it. But being a good human means that is going to happen for as long as bad humans keep being bad humans.
I will not stoop to being a bad human just because bad humans treat me badly. I want to be a good human, and that means being a good human even to the bad humans. I don't agree with what they do or think or believe, nor do I think that me being a good human will force anyone to change. Though some bad humans might change and become good humans, I don't have to become a bad human just because you don't see things the same way I do. You can live as you want and I will live as I want. And I want to be a good human, so I will try to live that way as best as I can.
As a side note, I am appreciative that hopefully nobody will piss on me, regardless of if I am on fire or not. I would much rather put the fire out myself jumping into nearby water, rolling on the floor, removing burning garments, etc. I really would like to avoid being pissed on, thank you. You may be into that, but I am not.
being happy that legitimately bad people are dead by their own actions doesn't make one bad themselves
claiming some supposed moral high ground by continuously turning the other cheek is a mood for sure
you want to be taken advantage of fine, you do you but i’m annoyed i have to deal with the consequences of people like you burying your head in the ground, because our society is surely crumbling while people like that rich fuck take advantage of us all and people like you do less than nothing
i’m just going to ignore the nonsense in the last paragraph because i can’t tell if this is genuine autism or not
Being good to bad people does nkt make you better. It makes you be easier to be used.
Dude was a piece of shit. Why are you so eager to defend him?
It's okay to be happy awful people are dead.
Or you can just accept it as a net gain for humanity and move on.
No need to be either happy or sad.
Let's keep our dignity and behave nice, but also let's not pretend this is a tragedy, because it isn't.
it’s 2026 the rich no longer get to expect dignity from the masses
the ‘high road’ is how we got in this mess to begin with
they should be thankful it’s not worse given how bad off we are now
Taking a steaming dump on their graves is keeping our dignity.
This man didn't give a tin shit about me, you, or anyone else while he lived. Why do we owe him decorum and consideration just because he got himself killed?
Because we are better then him, thats why!
Miss me with that idiotic "we go high" mentality. That nonsense is what lead us to here.
That just Sounds so bitter. Reread your comments later when you’re in a Calmer State of mind
I'm more bitter than a stout, to be sure. That doesn't mean I'm not calm, though.
because our behavior does not reflect him, it reflects us.
Awful as in he was responsible for day one DLC and microtransactions or awful as in he raped and murdered children?
There's a spectrum and I'm not sure which end of it he's on based on your comments.
I don't play Ubisoft games. I don't have a horse in that race.
He's awful because he was one of the money-addicted ownership class that collectively are ruining our world to fuel their addictions. Everyone in that class is a piece of shit and I don't find much value in trying to determine the particular vintage of shit we're dealing with. There are no "good guys" here.
I won't wish death or harm on any of them, but I'll certainly not shed a tear if karma gets them.
You need therapy.
I think you and I would agree that billionaires aren't people, and I long for the day in which we dismember them and feed them to the pigs, but this guy wasn't a billionaire. He was a successful video game developer who co-founded an awful company.
I'm not saying he was a saint, I don't mourn his passing, but I'm also not celebrating his death as his crimes pale in comparison to the ruling class.
He was a member of the ruling class. What the hell are you talking about? He was a board member and co-founder of a corporation with a valuation in the billions of dollars. Yeah, sure, he wasn't a billionaire but they aren't the only problem. He certainly had a lot less in common with poors like you and me, especially since the corporation he was part of wasn't exactly championing labor rights.
And yeah I'm sure I do need therapy. But guess what's one of many things I can't afford thanks to rich assholes like this guy?
so he’s bad but not evil incarnate so we should not be happy he’s dead?
what kinda snivel is this?
dude was a net negative in the world, go spend your effort caring on someone actually good
What's wrong with people making money because other people buy their video games? Are they hurting someone?
Let's just ignore the recent and rampant suppression of unionization to avoid improving work conditions then
It's a matter of scale, and what they do with the money. Wealth hoarding has reached the point where it's a cause of inflation. The top 1% (and even moreso, the 1% of that 1%) have hoarded ao much wealth, and do nothing but essentially sit on that wealth, that it makes life more expensive for all of us in the working class.
Strictly speaking, yes they absolutely are hurting someone. Wage theft is a significant issue we face today.
have you actually bothered to look him up?
Actually yeah, and aside from being co-founder of Ubisoft with his brothers I couldn't find much. He ran some other audio company. Literally nothing that justifies people talking about shitting on his grave.
I never defended him. Just because I am sending his family my condolences doesn't mean I agree with what he did or believed, it only means that I am trying to be a good human.
I'm sure his family is just fine crying into their piles of money. They don't need my sympathy or yours.
Would you say the same for Hitler? There is a line for everyone
Godwin's law
Lemmy is good at that. Some of the worst examples of humanity are on this site.
you're right.
look at all the good stuff Adolph Hitler gave the world!
Casually comparing a game company founder to a brutal dictator who started a devestating war and an industrialized genocide is as strech to say the least.
It’s terrible for the health of the Fediverse, too. And probably a legal liability.
And that's a giant steaming lie.
There is no legal liability to saying "good riddance" to a billionaire's death
As Richard Stallman once said: "I'm not glad he's dead, but I'm glad he's gone".
Can't argue that. He may not be missed after what he did, but a life is a life.
Only 4 left to unlock a unique loot box.
Lol, damn. Going to hell for that.
What will you tell him when you meet him down there?
“Where’s the sunscreen?”
that's DLC and won't be released until the second coming.
At that point you are poor, if you survive that long.
All these guys do is cheat and steal to get their planes, then they get killed in them. This is not rare.
Still, strangely that wasn't a Boeing...
This thread, the comments, and the people who post them, would be fascinating subjects for a sociological-psychological study.
Just to make sure I'm not misunderstood: I'm calling out the people who are proverbially dancing on the victims' graves (yes, there were two fatalities). Regardless of your feelings for one or the other, you are celebrating the loss and pain of their friends and families. Frankly it's disgusting behaviour.
you don't get it mate I don't like the games ubisoft makes so making fun of someone who burned to death in a freak accident is totally justified
also his ancestors ran from the french revolution over 200 years ago. this is relevant because... uh.......
The Guillemont brothers were/are not nice people, maybe that's triggering those horrible comments like "Ah ok, anyways..."
This is why I hate Lemmy sometimes. "It's wrong to wish people dead, except for 'them'. 'They' are fare game." It's the same BS we've been doing for the whole history of our miserable species.
Meh, I don't wish death on anyone, but that doesn't mean I have to be sad that a shitty person died.
Nobody's criticizing people for not being sad. There's a word for this, "gloating".
I still think that's fine. Sometimes the world is better off when someone dies.
Like Hitler.
Yep. Someone like trump. Not someone who made games worse.
Part of the 0.01%, made absurd amounts of money making games worse, heading a company actively fighting against unionisation.
That's not true.
I don't see anyone criticizing people for not being sad. There's a difference between that and criticizing people for being jubilant (not just not sad) about death.
10 years ago (maybe even 5), I would have agreed with you.
I'm past that shit. There are people that I now 100% wish would do humanity a favor and kill themselves.
I had this attitude 20 years ago. I no longer do. I've come to realize that there are certain rich fucks who are actively harming humanity directly (Hitler, Kissinger, Reagan, world leaders who send the poor to useless wars), and if they died and their death prevented more suffering, that's a good thing for humanity. Even the rich fucks that just hoard money are actively robbing from the poor to do so, and some of those people die as a result.
How many people does a person have to kill before they are too far gone to save, and are just evil? How many levels of indirection does it take before they wouldn't be considered evil? What happens if a person indirectly kills millions of people? Is that still far enough to call them evil?
These are the questions you should ask yourself when you try to plot out your own moral compass.
Ok, so which of those examples was this guy most like? Lol
The wealth hoarders immediately after that part you quoted.
"actively robbing the poor" and "actively killing masses of poor people" are two different levels of evil.
Are they, really?
Poor folks go through a lot as a result of being poor. It's hard to express how miserable the constant stress is, and it's not hard to understand how constant stress and the things we do to try and cope with it directly shorten lives.
Yeah, merely inflicting suffering on innocent people isn't quite as bad as killing them outright but it's such a small difference that I don't see a lot to be gained from trying to differentiate them.
Keep reading the comment you dolt
this isn't complicated
the social contract basically boils down to, you at a baseline do right by me and in return I do the same for you
assholes like this and other rich fucks try to game this system for profit by literally harming parts of our lives via loopholes
when ass fucks say lets hurt person ‘insert something that has no impact on anything’ like skin color or sexuality that is wrong
when people talk about wishing death on people that are literally fucking with our lives it should obviously not be the same
whether tanking a video game falls into that bucket is nuanced but people like the united health fuck are easily fair game
Wait, why do you hate lemmy for this? I think who you actually hate are humans. Reddit and all the other modern social media platforms have the same issues, because they too have humans.
I wouldn't be surprised if many of these people are, in fact, banned on reddit because of this behavior.
Lemmy seems waaaay more negative in general though. It's actually kinda jarring being here sometimes.
Because most of us got banned on Reddit for speaking out.
I guess I have to tolerate limpdicked equivocation and "let's all be sad some rich asshole carked it" on reddit but why here? Those spineless losers can fuck off back to reddit.
Definitely not just talking about subjects like this.
Yes, but this is just the cherry on top of a steaming turd sundae of other issues I have with Lemmy that I won't rehash again here. It's not like my complaining will change anything anyway.
Compare these reactions to the Ubisoft subreddit, which granted are going to skew fanward. On /r/games the conversation seems to be mixed, with a few dancing on his grave, most expressing dismay at his death while still acknowledging the harm he did to the company and industry as a whole. Plenty of people are simply discussing the dangers of small aircraft.
Both of those places are on reddit and are heavily censored.
Why are you still posting?
Because I like the idea of Lemmy and the fediverse, so I hang on despite its issues.
if you can burry your head in the sand enough to be upset about people celebrating the death of rich fuck wads in 2026 just put said head back in the ground
nowhere is perfect, but some places are better than others.
That pretty much nails my feelings. Charlie Kirk is a huge piece of shit and I'm glad he died honestly. But I'd be a worse person if I made a personality out of mocking him for being dead. Can't we just take the win? Fate decided a bad person was over. I wish that could be that.
Who here is making this into their personality? It's the pearl clutchers here who are making this far bigger than it is.
People are still posting gleeful shit about his death. I don't care what anyone says, that's unhealthy.
Before 2016 (and to an even greater degree, 2025), I would never have wished death on another person. However, the last ten years have been very eye opening for me. There are people whose continued existence on this mortal plane is the direct cause of untold hatred, suffering, and death (all unnecessary).
Humanity, and quite literally the planet itself, would be much better off with them dead. And, in fact, their continued existence is a direct threat to all life on this planet.
Whether or not it's healthy is a separate question. I can't say I'm super happy about it. But it is what it is.
Yes, there are degrees and this Ubisoft guy isn't on the same level as, say, Trump or Stephen Miller. But they are both cancers on humanity, maybe just different "stages."
good things should be celebrated
things that improve the general state of humanity are generally considered good
Charlie Kirk was okay with people dying from gun violence if it meant fewer restrictions on guns. He fought against minority groups' rights. He was spreading dangerous rhetoric worldwide.
The Ubisoft guy helped found a popular video game company and was probably just a generic rich prick at worst.
The world is better off without Charlie Kirk. I doubt the world, let alone the video game industry, let alone even just Ubisoft, will get any better after today thanks to Guillemot's death.
There's a huge difference here.
I mean, yeah, Kirk was unquestionably the bigger turd but I'm happy both are gone. They're all part of the same overarching issue with this world.
Them just fixing their shit would be greatly preferable. But they wouldn't be part of the problem for very long if they were capable of that kind of introspection.
The point is was making had nothing to do with Charlie Kirk other than he was an example of people being gleeful about a death. Which is unhealthy.
Is it unhealthy to be gleeful for the death of someone who promotes and spreads violent and hateful rhetoric and got hoist by his own petard? This is different than being gleeful about the death of someone who is making a hobby worse in one specific company.
You don't need to ask this. You know what I'm saying. I'm not going to participate in you trying to excuse what you're doing.
Stop hating Lemmy. For me, it's my way of communicating that I'm a Misanthropic Anti-Natalist. I can do my part to sway the public opinion that humans should all go extinct. I can spread the idea of humans being the monsters, the true enemies of the planet and all it's life. I can see it slowly taking hold of the world, people coming to terms with our monstrous nature. Someday in the far future, perhaps we all choose to self-terminate. We are not divine nor special, just meat.
At this point I can't tell who's shitposting and who isn't lol
What the fuck are you talking about?
Is this satire?
Way to skip over all the documented recent reasons people are posting.
documented recent speculation that we don't know he was involved with? his brother yves was the ceo at the time of all this drama. Claude was just a stakeholder.
it's clear that nobody knew who the fuck he was before this thread and suddenly everybody is trying to spin a story
Claude was a director and deputy CEO. He was on the board. He was directly involved in the technical and business management side for years. Calling him just a stakeholder undercuts his own opinion on what he did at Ubisoft as he expressed in a few interviews himself throughout the years.
Just because you didn't know who he was doesn't mean the rest of us didn't. Yes Yves was the face and CEO, and thus the person directly named in the lawsuit because that's how it works, but Claude was often cited as the quiet force behind Yves anchoring him, serving as operations officer, advisor, and other titles over time.
You'll probably want to stay away from the Internet when Trump dies then.
Why is everything an all or nothing deal with you people? What causes this?
Yeah, yeah, and Magda Goebbels made a great strudel.
Fuck off.
How do those boots taste?
Fuck billionaires and fuck nobility. Trying to tone police everyone else doesn't hide the harm that they've done to society. Would you do the same if Putin was assassinated tomorrow and lead to the end of the Russia's invasion of Ukraine?
One is a military invasion of a sovereign nation and war crimes committed against civilians bordering on genocide.
The other is making games with bad monetization and bad business practices.
The fact that you would equate the two shows that you don't possess the moral integrity, rationality, or intelligence of a well-adjusted adult. Have a horrible day.
Please don't downplay the harmful pracrices those leaders/executives have on teens and children. They are actively exploting them for money. Just because the harm isn't immediately visible, doesn't mean it won't have lasting effects.
You're horribly underplaying what the Guillermot family has done as the heads of Ubisoft. There's plenty of articles that have come out about how they're actively (and illegally) suppressing unionization in Ubisoft. They're also actively lobbying to prevent regulation in the US and Europe.
But of course you didn't include that because it doesn't support your argument. Just shut up you intellectually and morally bankrupt bootlicker
They're part of the same class.
The hoops these folks jump through to justify cheering the death of someone is terrifying.
Why do I need to justify being happy a rotten person ain't fucking up the world anymore? Can't I just be happy that the wicked witch is dead?
It's monstrous, it shows who the piece of shit in the story is and it wasn't the victim.
Keep licking those boots
I think scientists started that study but most of the team committed suicide. A study to find out why they killed themselves is not yet underway.
source?
I'm seeing that they ran a small farming business in a small farming village: https://gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2011/12/06/ubi-uncensored.aspx
I feel bad for the tutor that was teaching him but you won't see me shedding a single tear that there's one less c-suite parasite on Earth.
Good riddance.
Why do so many "important" people die in plane crashes in the past couple of decades?
Andy Cecere (2026 - US Bank)
Joshua Base (2026 - Capital Factory)
Christophe de Margerie (2014 - Total energies)
Petr Kelner (2021 - PPF Group)
Kobe Bryant (2020)
Glen de Vries (2021 - Medidata Solutions)
Gary Knopp ( 2020 - politician)
Steve Appleton (2012 - Micron CEO)
Cheryl heinze ( 2012 - politician)
Alison Des Forges ( 2009 - human right investigator)
Beverly Eckert (2009 - activist on 9/11 committee)
wilhemson executives in 2012
Now the CEO of Ubisoft in 2026
That is just in the US, so many other rich businessmen have also died in plane crashes in other countries. Romania, Italy, Brazil, Russia, etc... Are aircraft crashes just way more common than the companies want us to believe? I was always told that airplanes were statistically safer than cars.
Also why are plane crashes so often surrounded in suspicious circumstances like the IBM plane crash where a ton of executives were killed and immediately following the other IBM execs pivoted the company focus (which kind of led to their downfall in the consumer market).
God, I hate these arguments.
"Look at all these things that happened! There must be something more to this! It's too much of a coincidence! CONSPIRACY!"
Did you know shark attacks increase alongside ice cream sales? By that logic, there must be some secret alliance between Big Ice Cream and the shark cabal.
Or maybe both go up because it's summer and more people are at the beach.
The same thing happens with plane crashes involving wealthy people. Rich people fly far more than the average person, and they often fly private aircraft, which have a higher accident rate than commercial airlines.
Not every cluster of events is evidence of secret black-ops CIA assassinations. Sometimes a correlation is just a correlation, and sometimes a streak of bad luck is just a streak of bad luck.
I own a cat and have never been hit by a meteorite, therefore cats prevent meteor strikes.
See you at the next antivax meeting.
Big Ice Cream and Big Shark are definitely working together!
This is why baby shark blew up. You know what else babies like? Ice cream.
We've blown it wide open. Watch your backs and sleep with one eye open!
Commercial airliners. It's a very different story for smaller planes. And helicopters are death traps!
I have the perfect story for this.
About a decade ago I attended a week-long reliability training held by ASQ (the American Society for Quality). One day heading back to my hotel room I shared an elevator with the then-president-chairman of ASQ.
He was chatting about airliner safety, and how the engineers would do things like test/measure/calculate to find the necessary thickness of a part, and then just triple it for safety because they could. He said he'd never hesitate to ride a commercial airliner.
He then said he would never ride in a helicopter as long as he lived, lol.
Honestly the only helicopters I'd trust are VTOLs that lean more toward the plain side of things, mostly because then they can glide and don't just rush towards the ground.
I was just reading a story about some sky divers who died in a plane crash shortly after launch.
It said the non commercial airliner stuff isn't held to the same regulatory standards, and these smaller outfits often fudge or push safety things off and whatever state / agency it was said it couldn't say these types of services offering flights are safe because of it.
Because those important people are more likely to be in a plane than unimportant people.
Commercial planes are constantly coming and going through every major airport. Do these wealthy people really collectively fly more than that?
How often does Bezos end up in a plane? How often are you in a plane?
That's the wrong question to ask. "important people are more likely to be in a plane than unimportant people" is valid as a partial explanation only if we assume that all aircrafts have similar crash probabilities and are flown with a similar number of passengers.
The frequency with which I personally fly does not impact how often other people fly. All it does is give you one data point on how often other people in my situation might fly, and we don't know how many others are in my situation, so that information is also useless.
Let us assume 2 people fly in planes. One of them does so 10 times a month. The other 10 times a year. The risks are higher for the 10 times a month flyer.
In a world where there are exactly two people who ever fly, that would make sense. Now what if there are 12 people who fly 10 times a year a 1 person who flies 10 times a month? Will it be more likely that someone in the group of 12 dies in a plane crash, or the one person who flies 10 times a month?
I see what you’re saying but it’s splitting hairs. The rich guy uses an airplane more often that others do so he’s more likely to die in a plan crash simply because he’s more likely to be a plane the first place.
They fly small planes, in a lot of cases they fly themselves.
You never learn the name of the "unimportant" people that die in air crashes
We might not learn their names, but we definitely learn about the aircraft and how many people died.
If its of a certain size yes, but the planes that actually crash everyday don't get reported widely because they're tiny aircraft
Now that I had ent considered. There’s importance squared. A second layer.
I’m tired of humans. I’m now identify as one of those gay frogs Alex Jones is so strangely passionate about.
Also also. You have a 17 year span of time for 13 people that died in a plane crash. That's less than one person a year on average. I'd say that's pretty freaking safe compared to other modes of travel like automobiles or through The Warp.
Rich fucks just fly more overall. While flying is very safe. If you do it more, then it is more likely you will be the one in the plane when the rare thing goes wrong. Quirks of privilege.
Importantly, they tend to fly private aircraft, which I have recently learned are not as safe as commercial airliners. Commercial flights are subject to countless safety checks and have redundancies for days.
The titan sub failed in part because stockton Rush (I couldn’t think of a more posh name if I tried) assumed the similarly impeccable record of submarines was due to something other than scrupulous safety margins.
I can't imagine people that got rich by exploiting people and cutting corners have the strictest maintenance regime, either.
Guess those rich people are just going to have to start buying commercial jets. What a nightmare!
Riding with the peasantry class? Never!
No. I mean like presidents and prime ministers. They'll still ride alone but on a 737 instead of a Gulfstream.
Also very different airplanes
Commercial airplane crashes always make big news and their crashes in the past always caused improved regulations to the point where there is little left to improve
Private airplanes, on the other hand, different story
Yeah, key detail being, if we started listing car crashes from the past month, it would take up the whole thread.
You mean last week. Cars slaughter 580 people a week.
Small aircraft got the nicknames "widow makers" and "doctor killers" for a reason.
It might just be a frequency illusion or something, but it has seemed like airplane crashes in the US have skyrocketed in the past few years (surely it has nothing to do with the Republican party gutting regulation). And looking at where most of the dates in your comment fall, I wonder if it's just a probability thing.
Some are helicopter crashes
Rip Oliver Tree
Commercial aviation is much safer than cars because there are strict procedures and oversight that applies to everyone involved - not only pilots, but the entire operational chain. It isn't exactly the same when it comes to small business jets.
wasnt kobe a helicopter accident. and people glossed over the fact that he allegations of SA in the past when he died, the news sure sweeps SA under the rug pretty quick.
I live near an airport that has a private aircraft and jet show every summer. Half the booths are about safety, including whole plane parachutes. This is a well known problem.
Oh no...anyway
I'm sure it was because the windshield was littered with too much HUD.
I heard he was flying around looking for collectibles.
Nice.
(No hate here, just the nice meme for age 69. My condolences to his family.)
Link your Ubisoft account, and for only 3000 Ubisoft Connect Points, you can unlock the new Elite Pro Club plane that never crashes!
Well I didn't expect that today
I'd have agreed with you if he was the direct cause of some people death, like that asshole that got Luigi-ed, but he is not. He sure took decisions that ended up making subpart games, fucked over devs, and all.
He's a capitalist shark like there are thousands of others, but does that warrant death?
People like you are the cause why fascism is on the rise. No humanity, no regrets, no actions taken, until it affects you personally.
Few billionaires are direct causes of anyone dying. However, they're always indirect causes of lots of people dying, by their own choice.
Is there a meaningful difference between shooting somebody and poisoning the food and water of 10 random people? Maybe. Maybe not. Ultimately, you're choosing to take people's lives, knowing the outcome.
I don't think people care about whether you're a 'direct' cause, as much as they care about whether or not you're a deliberate cause.
All of us will probably cause some deaths as we go about our lives. But at no point do most of us make a decision to end someone's life. Whereas billionaires do make the decisions, and they do it completely voluntarily, seeking profit. They often seem happy about the decisions too.
And in the current case, did he cause any direct or indirect death? Did he chose to cause someone death?
Depends. What do you think about a suicide as a response from being laid off?
Hard to say. Suicides rarely have a single cause. A layoff can be a trigger, but you rarely kill yourself from that alone if you life a pretty decent life outside of work.
Usually I go with "you are responsible of your own actions and words, not what other do or says about it". So unless he personally pushed someone to suicide, or ordered someone to be bullied to the point of suicide, no, I don't think he'd be responsible.
The concept of "kill line" is incompatible with such a view point.
Care to explain? That's not something I heard about.
It doesn't warrant death, no. But people can cheer the death of an awful person without saying "hey we should keep the streak going!"
And what are you talking about? Our current case of fascism is a direct result of unregulated capitalism, courtesy of neoliberalism.
Not gonna argue on that because it is true. Still, fascism wouldn't strive as it does without those who only logic is "I don't like them so he deserves to die". That's the logic behind german innaction when jews were getting oppressed, and I prefer fight that now than wait for it to be the majority logic.
This is a straw man, I don't see anyone here making this actual argument.
what the fuck kinda apologist bullshit is blaming fascism on people angry about capitalism excess and not the actual fascist
the fucking mental gymnastics
Being angry at capitalist excess is a good thing. Saying that someone dying horribly is ok because you disagreed with how it ran is business isn't.
Fascist rely on that communitarian instinct to trives. Nazism rise came partly from clever propaganda gymnastic. To the rich, they said the problem was bolcheviks who spread unrest into the masses. To the poors, they said it was the rich jews who fattened on their labor.
To both they found a scapegoat remote enough to avoid having them interact enough to realize fascism bullshit, and that's how they won.
Fascism always tries to dehumanise part of society to make them the scapegoat for real issues, and gain momentum. Refusing those easy narrative is the first and more important step to refuse fascism.
i didn’t kill him
i didn’t wish him dead
his own excess killed him (the number of rich people dying to flight related stuff is crazy disproportionate)
don’t white wash the harm this man has done
expecting people to be respectful about his death is pathetic
blaming fascism on not the fascist themselves is worse
and censoring comments is just sad
I was talking about OC and why I censored his comment after it got reported multiple times. My bad for not having been more explicit.
you’ve ‘moderated’ multiple comments in this thread
i have no idea why you feel the need to defend rich trash
this wasn’t a good man
Both broke the community rules, and many more probably does, but we (the mod team, I'm not the only one out there) only removed the worst of them
I defend my humanity, which includes having the minimal decency of not dancing on somone else grave. Even the worst asshole on earth deserves decency in death. That's includes you.
Just an FYI, this is literally how every single one of them justifies their evil to themselves.
Agreed…
It’s crazy it’s so controversial. Don’t dance on peoples graves.
there is a subset of humanity that worships wealth and they are about as intelligent as you would expect them to be
arguing with them is about as useful as doing so with maga
You'd be surprised how some of those irredeemable people can, in fact be reasoned with, and even can change their views.
I remember the story of a black man befriending a bunch of klansmen and making them leave the organization.
lol just dedicate your life to it, no big deal!
Which is way more respectable than laughing about it behing internet anonymity.
sure, same I feel about a genuine priest dedicated to serving people, i have the utmost respect for them
but you expecting people to give up their lives to rehabilitate shit birds is pretty lmao
and unless you yourself are doing so, it’s also hypocritical
and i assure you i tell these people to their face in real life, many seem so confused
expecting anyone to dox themselves to full internet to prove a point is crazy naive and even more lmao
If it works, it is worth it.
I volunteers for other causes (helping elders, sometimes migrants, to learn to use computers, as well as occasionally helping my dad who volunteers at the red cross). Everyone got a way they can help others, but I doubt a klansman would listen to someone like me, despite being a white male.
I never expected that. I just said that laughing at someone contribution to society is at best petty.
i volunteer as well but it takes a special type to put up with people like this, i know because i live in a state around them
unless you are literally dealing with this directly i don’t really care to hear some hollier than thou bullshit
dealing with racist, sexist, bigoted fucks daily is exhausting
imagine defending their behavior even indirectly
im guess thier propaganda show on apple tv+ wasnt enough.
You're a big guy...
🦀🦀
Karma.
I’m not saying he was a good guy, but he ain’t a war criminal and was maybe really nice for all we know so I don’t really understand how you can be happy about such news.
He and his brothers still maintain control of Ubisoft (even through an attempted hostile takeover). It's been shown in documents that management have known about but ignored the pervasive sexual misconduct there (in fact promoting the abusers) as well as extensive union busting, employee abuse, on top of the numerous lawsuits for selling/mismanaging customer data, rug pulls with games, and more. Claude Guillemot was an active founding member of the company and maintained his involvement throughout.
Those alone I believe earn the ire thrown at them. I personally add the moral failings of their early overenthusiastic adoption of NFTs and AI.
They very much are a part of the abusive wealthy class treating the world as their personal misogynistic playground.
To argue he was "maybe really nice" is to straight up ignore his hand in all of that. Try again.
That warrants the dead penalty then. Justice is served!
seems like his rich excess killed himself, i don’t see some activist attacking him
rich people dying from flying most of us can’t afford to do seems like a personal problem
What you’re saying is probably true, but I don’t think he deserved to die burned in a crash for such things.
You said you don't know how people can be happy about the news. That's mostly what I was addressing.
Ultimately I agree, he should have been tried for his crimes against society and guillotined along with the rest of aristocracy ages ago.
Does anyone deserve to die, for any reason or by any method?
Yes, absolutely.
I don't know enough about this guy, specifically, to say he directly deserved it. But that doesn't mean I'm going to feel sad about it, because I know enough to know that he chose to be a part of the systematic dismantling of workers rights within capitalism (among lots of other bad shit that he had voluntarily made himself a part of).
Fuck anyone who behaves that way.
we know he stole the value of people's labor.
Clearly not a monster, but he does not sound that nice to me in this whole thing. I guess we'll never know for sure.
I did a search for his name alongside the sexual harassment accusations, and I don't see his name listed anywhere. It's suspicious that so many around him are accused, but I don't see Claude named anywhere.
Why try to qualify this? Your moral compass is calibrated to "not a war criminal"? Is that your line where "evil" and "they're ok I guess" is?
And Hitler loved dogs
(Yes I know this guy isn't Hitler, calm down)
A lot of you need to reexamine your larcenies.
The Guillemot were slavers. 🖕 slavers.
So the estimated 8781 people with the Guillemot name and others with the variations "Guilaume, Guillaume, Guilaum, Guillamauax, Guillemot, Guillaumie, Guillaumes, Guillaumaud, Guillaumaut, Guillaumard, Guillaumart, De Guillaume" are all evil slaver beneficiaries?
I just can't find anything else on the lineage or where the Ubi Guillamot-brothers' parents' wealth came from.
I’m sure we can ask the IRS how that money has been used.
Good riddance
Sad comment.
Sad bootlicking
Did we have another Luigi or something?
There's a huge difference between refusing people healthcare and producing video games people are free to buy or not.
Promoting sexual abusers and trying to cover up their abuse through two lawsuits though? Yeah, not a good look
That means he deserved to die?
no but i’m not gonna care about people celebrating it
imagine wasting effort defending shit birds
So we agree then.
No need to be so hostile.
that’s not how words work
you just make yourself look silly
Calm down we agree and are friends
putin got to him. since one of his other favorite methods is falling out or exploding planes.
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