Christian man sues employer for forcing him to see a Pride flag on his way into work
Department of Public Works employee Eric Batman claims that having to see a Progress Pride flag flying outside the department’s Alhambra, California, headquarters during the month of June effectively forces him to “celebrate, recognize, and solemnize conduct and actions that he views as sin” in conflict with his sincerely held Christian religious beliefs, according to a lawsuit filed in March by anti-LGBTQ+ evangelical nonprofit the Liberty Counsel.
https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2026/06/christian-man-sues-employer-for-forcing-him-to-see-a-pride-flag-on-his-way-into-work/Open linkView original on thebrainbin.org837
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It must be hard to be this fragile little bitch of a bigot.
Ya know....I really hate that people use the term "snowflake" to describe soft sensitive people. My logic is simple. When I grew up, I was taught that snowflakes were unique and beautiful. Individually a work of art on their own or can work together to form something greater.
I don't want that beautiful word to describe these foul creatures.
Instead I suggest they are called "little bitches". Use that term instead of snowflakes from now on.
Hey now, us bitches work hard! This pathetic human being that can’t look at a rainbow flag without feeling shame, regret, and evil, he needs therapy.
Therapy and a long time spent in exile away from society.
Besides, where would you be without bitches and their bitchcraft? Absolutely maidenless, that’s where.
These fuckin maidenless scoundrels!
Agree.
Rotten Shitbag could also work.
Hey, rotten shitbags probably melt eventually too
Jet fuel melts rotten shitbags!
Shitbags sound useful for certain scenarios.
Why not just rotten turd?
"We Shitbags are a proud people!"
Yes, gendered insults are much better.
I haven't associated bitch with gender, like, ever. Language evolves over time
So you don't think that the reason "bitch" is used to insult a man as being weak has anything to do with the fact that it's a feminine slur?
Nope.
I'm not totally disagreeing, but I also can't square it with the term "asshole". What does the term for someone being mean have to do with the end of your digestive tract? Why do "cunt" and "pussy" have almost opposite meanings, and "cunt" being very similar to how we use "dick" or "asshole" to refer to a person?
All of those holes and appendages have necessary function and can be fun to play with.
Different terms for excrement is much better in my opinion.
What does it mean to you?
That guy from the story
In what way is "little bitches" gendered?
Wait, are you thinking I'm using the definition of "female dog"?
Okay, what definition are you using?
Someone who's weak, submissive, pathetic, and blames all others for their short comings and insecurities.
"Weak, submissive, pathetic" like the traditional misogynistic view of women? The one that gets applied to men to suggest they are being feminine as an insult?
In no way did I ever say women are weak, submissive, or pathetic. That kinda seems like you drawing your own lines.
I'm pretty sure people started calling conservatives snowflakes when conservatives used it to bitch about participation trophies and that kinda stuff. So it's use it's use is a critique of conservatives using it for absurd things when they themselves are so sensitive to a lot of things.
Oh, yeah, I get the orgin. I still don't like it.
Pendejos in Spanish
Shitflakes, Bo Banders
It's somewhat apt though, given that they got the term from Fight Club - Just more proof that they wouldn't understand satire even if it cockslapped them in the face.
Where’s the satire in Fight Club?
Tylee Durden is am allegory for toxic masculinity. He talks a big game about individuality and self-determination, but Project Mayhem is even more strictly conformist and anti-individualistic than the corporate culture it's rebelling against.
People like Andrew Tate watch the movie and think Tyler Durden is an example to be followed but they don't even take on his critique of capitalism.
Like. In his speech at the start, about how your possessions own you, he's not wrong about society. But instead of offering a real solution, all he does is gather men with social issues into a rage-fuelled terrorist cult which he can't even control. Much like the One Ring uses good intentions to corrupt its wearer to evil, so Tyler Durden uses genuine feelings of dissatisfaction and disaffection men feel in the late 20th century to pointlessly destructive aims, ultimately reproducing the very power structures they claim to fight against.
Fixed it, just for you
That's got a ring to it! It's fun to say, and I hope one day I get to use that to insult someone withthat phrase.
We've done good work here today!
In the early years of the alt-right and 4chan/b, the derisive use of snowflake was a counter to the notion that everyone is special, noting that while snowflakes are unique and beautiful, they're also superfluously abundant.
It smacks of social Darwinism, the notion that there's too many people and fair treatment of them all is unaffordable, which is only the case when a few hold an extremely disproportionate amount of wealth and power.
(As an aside, the extreme wealth/power disparity that we see today is a symptom of the decay of a society that precedes decline and collapse, at least as we've seen in history. Before the US, an embarrassment of riches was exactly that. In the states, since the rise of the gold rush and the railroad barons, extreme wealth in the US has become an object of admiration and aspiration. The American dream is to join the billionaire class, no matter how rarely it actually happens.)
I like “suppurating assholes” for this reason.
Calling them "snowflakes" is just to point out their hypocrisy.
What's hard is living in a country that seems to care more about this snowflake bullshit than health care and wages.
Fragile + Bigot... There's something there
Biggile?
Fraggot
And not a single person has complained about being “forced” to see all the churches he also goes past.
Waiting for the precedent so the
Church of SatanSatanic Temple can abuse the fuck out of it to start forcing churches into seclusionThat's the satanic temple, but i take your point
oops, you're right. fixed!
I have complained about that. I just didn't file a lawsuit...
Welp, now you have your
missionpurpose in life.This is one of those rare paradox for me. I truly hate religion. Yet, I hold lots of respect and even amazement at some of the religious architecture.
It’s truly amazing what people can achieve when they want to. Too bad it’s done in service of bigoted ignorance.
Whenever I see incredible religious structures, the emotion after amazement is sadness, because what if all that effort were put toward something productive?
Yup, could help so many with the billions poured into religious facilities.
True. Hard to calculate the $$ spent and hours of "volunteer" (slave?) labor.
So yes, but also this is slightly different than that. It's about the department itself flying the flag. Still absolutely insane, but slightly less insane than that. The end result, if this person wins, is literally no flags or any other messaging. "My religion doesn't support nationalism." This would also include extreme stances like "my religion doesn't support the periodic table" or things like that.
I see your point, but now I’m thinking about how cool a periodic table flag would be.
I complain about that. Often.
Would be fun to see this lawsuit succeeding.
The Satanic Temple would have a field day suing everything christian by this precedent.
A satanist could even argue it causes them physical harm to be subjected to "holy" imagery against their will, if the scriptures are to be believed.
It's very simple. We'll get rid of the pride flags as soon as they get rid of all the crosses. Fair is fair, after all.
The fucking crosses, man.
You think Jesus ever would want to see another cross again?
Dude wouldn't be able to take Public Transit in Boston.
If Jesus came back he probably wouldn't even use the letter "t".
Imagine resurrecting into a world full of people wearing crosses with you nailed to them all just acting like it's not fucked
The funny part is that they aren’t even historically accurate crosses. The cross was more like a capital T. The upright post was buried in the ground like a fence pole, with a square peg carved at the top. The actual cross part was just the crossbar, with a matching square hole carved in it. The crossbar was lifted up and set on top of that peg.
The square peg likely only stuck out an inch or two from the top of the T, and that was mostly just to make it more durable, as the peg wore down with use but burying the posts was a labor intensive process. They didn’t want to bury a new post for every single crucifixion, so they made the posts reusable and just swapped out the crossbars.
When Jesus carried his cross to Calvary, he was only carrying the top of the T. But over time, to distinguish it from the capital T, Christians started using the modern cross with the accentuated peg, and it eventually morphed into the modern cross that we all recognize today.
Huh, I would've assumed they were trying to distinguish it from Thor's hammer.
Then you go to church and see them eat your flesh and blood.
Cannibal death cults man, they be fucked.
To be fair, that one he said to do
thats why theres the angels to clear everything out when the time comes.
Jesus talkking to Peter after the rapture: "Yeah, got all of them, except those antichristians who celebrate my death with crosses. No way I'm bring those sick weirdos up here."
That brings a whole new dimension to the T, but you know what, after being subjected to the green line more than a few times it entirely makes sense.
I also think the Progress Pride Flag represents conduct and actions I view as sin. Not like, gender/sexual sin. Design sin.
The rainbow flag was already perfect. The rainbow flag to me says "human behavior exists on a spectrum, and everyone matters". It's beautiful, elegant. The stripes don't represent distinct groups, though sinners (the flag redesigners, not LGBTQ+ people) have tried. The flag itself represents harmony in diversity. You can't get better than that, no notes.
The Progress flag is meddling with a perfect formula. It takes a perfect symbol to celebrate diversity itself and plasters it with footnotes. By highlighting specific groups that were included by the rainbow in the first place, it just opens the door to more and more complex revisions to include more and more distinct groups. It turns a poignant symbol of broad inclusiveness into a weird patchwork of granular inclusiveness. That would seem like hyperbole if the pictured flag wasn't already the intersex-inclusive revision.
It's just sloppy vexillology. The rainbow flag is awesome. Why are we fucking with it?
That's basically my problem with the term "LGBT(Q(IA(+)))" but as a basically straight white dude my input has very little weight. I think SAGA is cleaner (Sexuality And Gender Acceptance/Alliance), covers all the bases while being a pronounceable word with a poetic meaning. "Queer" works too but has too much baggage in some regions.
I never understood the arguments about adding extra letters to the acronym. The suggestion seemed always to be that if I said "I support the LGBT community" I was actively discriminating against everyone else who isn't included in that acronym, which of course was never actually a thing. You either support people of different sexual arrangements to yourself, or you don't. I don't know anyone who "only supports the gays".
I also think it's hilarious that they themselves seem to realise that it's become a bit of an acronym soup, that people are struggling to keep track of, which is why they've included the plus at the end. Surely they could have just done that from the start?
LGBT and other variants, yeah i agree but with one exception: LGB is often used explicitly to exclude trans people and postdates LGBT in use. It's one thing to use it when there's a reason to exclude straight trans people from a statement (eg LGB people may struggle early on because they don't have a relationship script to follow in same gender relationships). But yeah, I use LGBT with the understanding that other queer identities exist and are to be included as warranted.
The + came pretty early, and the alphabet soup largely is pushed by specific groups who worry they're underrepresented or underacknowledged. This began with asexuals who were kinda late to organizing with the rest of us and felt the need to really push for visibility. The Q was basically meant to be the same as the +. The I is related to the debate as to whether or not intersex people are inherently part of our community (my stance is that it's not my place to tell any intersex person whether or not they are, though idk what my cousin would get out of it as a straight cis woman who's chromosomally sterile). By the time QIA was in the mix some people just kept going and a lot of us pulled back.
It should also be noted that LGBT was an acknowledgement of the fact that each letter had developed a separate community and we'd been working together and we had an overarching community. Over the years since a lot of that has blended, but early on a lot of organization was separated into those 4 boxes, in a way that just isn't as common anymore.
I like to just call it the Alphabet Mafia, considering how many places around the world that our existence is still illegal.
Also because it gives the finger to Google's parent company's trademark lol
I'm partial to GRSM (Gender, Romantic, and Sexual Minorities).
Hear hear. I refuse to use it for this exact reason. The rainbow flag is such a strong symbol!
I’m also really annoyed by it and I would love to use the old one, but around here trans exclusive LGB groups started using it… Soooo, kinda burned for me unfortunately.
Don’t want to tell you to not use it btw! Just be aware that it could mean something different for certain groups of people.
Oh that's gotta piss Gilbert Baker off
I'd explain it includes them too. If they can't accept that it really isn't my problem.
Shhhh. We're running an operation here..
Eisenmann was a sinner too.
To avoid confusion with the Cusco flag? I jest, of course. Cusco changed its flag in 2021 by adding a golden sun in the middle. Probably to differentiate it from the pride flag.
https://youtu.be/r3fD5FPQBtI
I see confederate flags round here all the time and I don't feel forced to celebrate the confederacy.. idiot.
It's important to see both sides of any argument. The winning side, and the losing side.
Well ... you don't see Nazi flags in Germany today but you can see them in USA. "Freedom to be idiot" is a great thing.
Religion has no more validity than any other work of fiction or any other fandom. There, I fucking said what we are all thinking.
Next up, someone suing because someone is displaying merch from a rivaling sports team
I've got an NCR flag in front of my house. It would actually be hilarious if some dude in Roman legion garb came to my house and demanded I take it down.
NCR?
New California Republic. It's from the fallout games. As is their rivals, Caesars legion.
Ny Chemical Romance!
You do not fly Ravens gear in Cleveland. You're likely to get shot.
We also don't like Pittsburgh, but we at least respect their right to exist.
Christians like this are SO addicted to seeing themselves as victims.
Well the alternative is that they would have to help the poor and generally be a good member of society and that's too much like hard work so it's much easier to claim that they are the victim.
"What kind of librul propaganda is helping the poor, I'm a good Christian!"
There is a certain strain of Christianity that must see itself as the underdog in a cosmic war of good and evil. Everything fits into that overarching narrative.
this guy does not deserve his last name
He's the opposite of Batman
Manbat?
Oppressing people for money sounds a lot like Batman. I guess he's not beating up the people he steals from yet.
Can I sue for Christmas?
Santa died on the cross for your sins
Santa was beat to death at a Walmart Black Friday sale trying to grab a 38" flatscreen.
If it only was that easy to get people to celebrate, recognize, and solemnize gay sex, world would be a better place no doubt.
Maybe this guy really likes flags
How does seeing something equate to celebration, recognition, or solemnization?
Oh no, I just witnesses a train wreck. Now I have to go repent for celebrating all those deaths /s
Fucking snowflakes
If this works, is it not precedent to make the same complaint every time I see a cross?
Or see “god” anywhere.
Since they claim he's everywhere, we can demand he stops spying on us in the bathroom.
So you're saying he's in the Epstein files?
I mean he must be, it stands to reason.
Only one way to be sure. They must be released!
Maybe. Sometimes different rules apply to government (public) property vs private.
Everyone has so many theories about this guy’s motivations. I think it’s just capitalism manifest. This guy sees a way to make a buck litigating. Welcome to America.
Sounds like he is very, VERY gay.
That has to be it, right?
If seeing a piece of cloth is so triggering, then maybe that's an indicator of a much more deep-rooted problem.
The "Christian men" who protest gay rights the loudest are usually the ones who wind up in the headlines when they get caught soliciting male prostitutes at rest areas.
Well then it's a good thing that, "sin” as a purely theological term, has no meaning to the US government. Right?
Cue the 6 SCOTUS fucks busting through the wall like the koolaid man to make sinning illegal in their quest to turn the US into a christofascist theocracy
He's definitely a repressed gay then
Stop blaming Christian fundamentalist fascism on gay people.
Making this claim only results in covertly blaming gay people for their own oppression. There are far more non-queer bigots than there are self-hating queer people, and this joke needs to be retired.
I hear you, and you may indeed be correct, but in a surprisingly large number of cases the more homophobic someone is; the more likely they are deeply closeted themselves. There are a number of documented occasions on which a conservative convention in a given area coincides with a huge spike or even a crash of gay dating apps
How did you reach this conclusion?
I think you probably just made that up.
Someone's never lived in a small town. Where the hell are you getting the notion homophobia is mostly self-hating queers, a terminally online community?
This is not the Batman I was expecting.
Nobody expects the ... Holy Batman!
When do I get to abolish all Christmas songs and imagery from workplaces on the basis that I’m offended by looking at it and hearing it as a non Christian?
We don't need to abolish all Christmas songs; the kids tend to like them. We just need to abolish that one Mariah Carey one.
Imagine this:
You're a mall kiosk worker. It's a wednesday. Lunch break soon. You're just scrolling looking at the photos of your friends costumes when suddenly the mall radio stops.
Odd... you look at the clock but before you can even read the time you hear.... "I dont want a lottt for christmas...."
Your heart palpitates.
It's 11:32 on November 2nd and you're about to hear the same 30 tracks on repeat for 2 months.
Hear hear! (pounds cane)
That is a cause that all should support.
I actually liked the song before moving to the US. There are a gazillion Christmas themes songs published, is hers the only royalty-free or something?
The message is so weird too:
Bitch, you're calling me irrelevant?
Didn't Jesus teach to love your neighbour? What a mong of a failure.
Their definition of Jesus doesn't come from the bible
Sure it does! Read the Bible... what does Jesus do at the end?
Hint: It's not hugs
Oh yeah, he beats up that entire pride parade at the end
Remember, God loves everybody, even as He tortures them eternally.
That's the quality of love they espouse... to love your neighbor, BUT if your neighbor sins, it's eternal torture for them.
Has he considered reading the Bible and following the teachings of Jesus Christ? It might help him understand what Christianity is supposed to be about.
Do you really think they are reading their book?
Also which one? They'll pick the one that most fits what they want.
If they are reading anything but the new testament then it is just a history lesson.
Which translation, which interpretation? It's hard to say the New Testament is a single work with just one commonly understood message.
Most self-described Christians are Devil worshipers. If your religion preaches hate, you're not worshiping God, you're worshiping Satan.
Don't bother. Satan will claim his own soon enough. In the meantime, resist.
But Jesus it too woke and gay for Reighwing Christians
I feel the same every time I see a cross, where's my compensation?
So can all his coworkers sue them because they have to look at this bigoted piece of shit every day?
This guy deserves to be fired immediately without compensation.
Forcing me to see a crosses and churches on my drive to work violate my religious beliefs all.
Can I sue Eric Batman for having to see that he exists, and being upset by that fact?
What about us having to look at his stupid church when we are out and about. My delicate psyche is offended, maybe I should file a lawsuit.
Lawsuit against them too.
Lawsuits against everyone!
I know I'm probably bucking the hive mind here, but I would actually support legislation that government owned building can fly only city, state, and country flags. I'm completely in on making sure that government policies are inclusive and protective of those needing them, but flags just seem performative. In fact, they could be counter productive; flying them "in support" while policies do not.
Agreed. Plus a legal precedent in favor of pride flags, could cut the other way. On principle, I don't want to see hateful sentiment yield a legal victory. In practice, disallowing this kind of expression in government facilities would/should keep MAGA flags and other nonsense far from the same flagpoles. Or at the very least, it could be argued so in a second court case.
I come to Lemmus for exchanges like this. Well reasoned, level headed, and consequences considered. Imagine if we could get conversations like this to take place in those government buildings- sure would be swell.
Thank you. Be the change you want to see in the world, right?
Yeah. I generally don't have an objection to pride flags but I could definitely see somebody stretching the same arguments to have a Confederate or MAGA flag (or just Trump's face as he's so fond of putting it on fucking everything)
Considering that Georgia used to have the stars-and-bars on their state flag, I'm 100% certain it would get used this way.
Why should the law treat these things as the same though? If the law is blind to bigotry then that's a larger problem.
Good question. I think that the law is going to see a flag on a government flagpole from a "does this represent part of the government or not?" standpoint. In that context, the message the flag sends is irrelevant. In this, and possibly many other cases, it represents a third party that is getting notoriety and support from a government facility. Maybe it's okay if its declared as an official act by someone that has the power to do so, but then it probably won't be a one-off like the flag in the article.
In truth I freaking love that people put a pride flag in such a prominent place. It represents values that align with basic human dignity and are harmless to everyone. I'm just concerned that it's going to open up a whole can of worms that might make things worse. Then again, things are already pretty bad so clever tactics that exploit loopholes are warranted.
The de-facto environment out there is increasingly so. It is indeed a massive fucking problem.
Which cities, states and countries can a building fly? Only their own? Could a federal building raise a flag for another nation in solidarity, even if support for said nation is polarizing? Flags are performative, but knowing what is allowed to be performed can be a good indicator for marginalized groups to know where they might be okay living, even if policies are quite there yet.
In my world, no. A government building flys the flags associated with it. While it's easy to be on the side of a federal building flying the flag of Ukraine, or one state flying the flag of another going through a tragic event, supporting that would also allow government buildings to fly the Israeli flag, or the confederate flag or a MAGA flag. You don't think that confederate sympathizers in the south would claim to be marginalized and the confederate flag flying at the Mississippi statehouse would make them feel welcome? It's a knife that cuts both ways.
I want marginalized people to feel welcome in their communities, but I don't believe the flagpole of a government building is where to do it. The floor of the government building is.
That's fair. I appreciate the consistency in your view. My follow up would be if, in that world, embassies would be exempt from that rule. Seems like a potential gray area.
You know, if youre gonna be this pathetic we should be able to exile you to an island.
Hey... Australia...
Australia is filled with venomous snakes, huge spiders crocodiles and more. It not fair to hurt those innocent creatures.
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you... The United States of America
I'm suing my employer because it rained today and I saw a rainbow.
disgusting.
A few of my muslim students said that they couldn't draw a rainbow in art class, "because in our religion this is a bad thing".
I asked them "but are not all of nature's wonders the work of Allah?" While I watched the gears rolling behind their eyes I told them to ask their imams "who makes the rainbows in the sky?". And that they may return their given assignments after having received the answer.
I used to have to drive past this fucking thing on my way to work. We banning those too?
I know where this is, I hate it.
Can I sue this guy for the disgust I feel inside me when I read about him suing for seeing a flag he doesn't like? Does this mean I can also sue every church forcing me to see a cross and forcing me to hear these fucking annoying bells every fucking hour?
Funny story, I filed a complaint about the church bells near me. I found out it's not the church ringing them, which would fall under the constitutional law freedom of religion of my country, but it is done by a foundation consisting of volunteers which does not fall under the freedom of religion law as it's not a religious organization so it is considered noise pollution.
I didn't get a reply, which is also against the law.
I would imagine that in order to be a valid noise complaint the noise needs to be unnecessary. After all construction work has to be limited between certain hours precisely because it makes noise but they're allowed to make noise within those hours because the noise is a necessary thing to put up with in order to carry out construction.
I would imagine that they would argue that the ringing of the bells is a necessary part of the ceremony. Ring them at 4:00 in the morning probably would constitute a valid noise complaint though.
It's 2026, there is nothing necessary about church bells. Assuming they're even actual bells, and not just a midi file playing over shitty speakers
Try making that arguement in Texas or Alabama
Yeah, exactly right. But these bells go 24h and also for 20min on Sunday. Normally it's allowed to make noise during the day, until 23h but not on Sunday because it's a rest day. So, ironically, they are in violation because of church service.
Pride also is notably not a religious belief. Its a belief in fundamental human rights and equality under the law.
If my religion was that "all government is evil" then there's no amount of government that would not offend my sensibilities. Notably a lot if "sovereign citizens" believe exactly this and happen to be religious christians.
This should be treated with even more ridicule than sovereign citizen beliefs because this is being offended by a belief specifically opposed to the equality of the law.
Why do so many right-wing Christians sound like the villain from a Criminal Minds episode?
Like...this MFer thinks he has a right to make other people not exist for his comfort. Fucking psycho when you dig into it.
Tell me a story about the US without telling me it's a story about the US.
How much do you want to bet that this guy has been on the internet calling people snowflakes unironically?
His faith must be weak for it to be shaken so easily.
If looking at a pride flag turns you gay, I'm going to decorate my entire house with billionaire flags.
So they can take down the flag but that means no Easter decorations or Christmas decorations and definitely canceling the Christmas holiday because I don't want to be forced to celebrate your beliefs you weak twat.
That's a bad deal because that part has nothing to do with Christian Easter and Christmas.
I wish I could sue his church for having to share a world with Eric Batman
........you know his name is actually Bruce Wayne, right?
No, Bruce Wayne us the scientist, the monster is Batman.
Too bad thats not how secular nations work. I could just make up a random religion or worship the spaghetti monster and then sue if I saw something that I considered sin. Most religions say its sin to worship something other than them so I could sue christian churches because from my view they were committing sin
christianity has become religion of hate. Either that or people like these shouldn't even be considered christians anymore.
It always was a religion of hate, and it always will be
It started with "chosen people" and went downhill from there immediately.
Downvotes are Christian apologists who would rather be mad at you than their brethren.
Sometimes I don't get any down votes, and I feel kinda sad.
"Liberty Counsel" isn't a very good name for an organization that seeks to restrict the ability for individuals to freely express themselves.
All the right-wing organizations are named in doublespeak like that. Being dishonest is core to their ideology.
This is literally what qualifies as "shoving it down our throats" when conservatives say that LGBT+ folks can live how they want but not shove it down everybody's throats. That's my personal experience with conservative relatives and locals, at least.
Being reminded that certain "other" people exist without being hunted down is all it takes to set them off.
So while the lawsuit is a stupid waste of resources, the basic dickhead at the center of it is probably genuinely motivated to pursue it.
Based on their rantings, I have a pretty good idea of their intrusive thoughts about having things shoved down their throats. Such thoughts must give them disturbing feelings.
Tale as old as time...
I'm never going to understand people, of any religion or political affiliation, who honestly think they have some kind of right to be free from offense.
Grow the fuck up. Your neighbors' enjoyment of some dick doesn't affect you in any meaningful way.
It does affect them because they are always thinking about their neighbour's dick 24/7.
Oh if he wins this is going to be amazing. Personally I don't like having to walk past my bosses tacky personalised number plate, can I sue for that?
I assume this is an effort to create another suit that will get all the way to SCOTUS so that white Christian nationalists get yet another carve-out of everyone else's civil liberties.
I want to sue Eric Batman's parents, or whoever the fuck decided on that dogshit name.
Hate to break it to you, but they got killed by a mugger.
He should adhere to the words of his supposed god, specifically “if your eye offends you, pluck it out.” Don’t like seeing the pride flag? Don’t fucking look at it.
Sounds like a right snowflake
Maybe just try and turn your cheek when driving by it you little baby snowflake.
The article is hilarious to me because they just use his last name and I'm just visualizing Batman working at a DPW place for decades and being offended by Pride flags.
lmao cry about it idiot
pride is unstoppable 💜💛🤍🩷🩵🤎🖤❤️🧡💛💚💙💜
I will bet all of you $100 each that this man also has a Grindr account.
Hell, I’d be willing to lose $100 just to make him mad.
It's hard out there for a wimp
Meanwhile my church:
(ALT: The words "The Episcopal Church" in white above a variation of a shield graphic that has a blue field in the upper left with a series of white crosses forming an X shape; pink, blue, brown, black diagonal stripes on the right; the classic Pride rainbow colors of purple, blue, green, yellow, orange, and red forming the remaining sections with a white cross holding them all together)
EDIT: I tried to use a spoiler tag/format but I apparently suck at that. Sorry. Don't sue me!
Wow, everyone is so impressed that you're able to do the bare minimum required to be a decent human.
I mean, I only shared it in reference to the supposedly Christian guy getting upset at the sight of a pride flag as though it's completely counter to Christian belief and practice, meanwhile there are Christian churches that solemnize same-sex marriage, ordain openly gay and trans clergy, etc. Wasn't really aiming for social points. But thanks for the comment!
Dipshits like this are why Jesus said most people don't even have the faith of a mustard seed. Or how Saint Paul called Christians milk drinking babies incapable of digesting solid food.
He's not wrong, which is why we should not acknowledge or grant any privileges to any religion. Practice what you want but you should get no special privilege or consideration.
Can I sue for every goddamned billboard out there? Plz?
you can if he wins.
You KNOW this GOOD Christian man ALSO complains when people wear MULTIPLE CLOTHS or RAPE CHILDREN!
Only because he didn't get to do the raping
Can I sue this homophobe for having to have heard about his stupid ass from this news article? 🤔
In the US you can sue anyone for anything
How could batman do this?
Christians are so god damned annoying. Why can’t they all just fuck off? Keep their superstition in their conditioning centers, and out of public life. Their fervor is pathetic, but the results they achieve with such animosity damages society in ways that cannot easily be rolled back, if at all.
Fuck ‘em all.
Because their fundamentalist religion is based on oppression and conversion. Crusades and all that.
Ever since the rise of modern evangelism since James William Fifield Jr. and his First Congregational Church in Los Angeles, the oppression and conversion themes of Christianity have been cranked up to eleven, if you can believe that's possible.
For a deep dive, check out the Behind the Bastards two parter on How the Rich Ate Christianity. (Part one, Part 2)
Why is he trying to erase history?
Pride heritage, not Pride hate
This reminds me that I once, in the name of humor, tried to whip up a progress pride-inspired Confederate flag as a trolling tool and it's among the most cursed things I've ever seen. Pretty sure I deleted it from existence...
Oh those people exist. An ex gf of mine once found herself on a date with a woman who was just wildly and openly racist and assumed that since they were both white southerners she'd agree.
Someone should punch him in the throat
Nowhere in the Bible does it mention the Pride flag.
There is pride and there is Pride
The first has Christ on their side
The latter knows not battle won
And thus cast out brightest sun
B happy b love but know divinity
Server client holy internet trinity
World b illusion the Buddha sed
The wolf inside is the wolfs fed
Entanglement is all u r made of
Make sure knot not lust but luv
Just so their's no misunderstanding by the illiterate and ignorant, I'm saying Jesus stands with us LGBTQ+ people. Therein, with no cultural structure to enforce positive behavior, the sexually immoral people (rapists, molesters, public masturbators, peeping Toms, etc) don't get the same feedback to save themselves from themselves.
If I exercise my free speech in the woods with no one around to hear it, is it free speech?
Snowflake much?
then avert your eyes and turn the cheek.
Their name is Batman? I can’t help but laugh at them. Fuckin’ loser. No one said you had to work there. You can quit if the flag is offensive.
what's the over under on how likely it is that he calls everyone who doesn't tolerate his bigotry "snowflakes" while he's so oppressed by the mere sight of a flag?
He is currently now suing God because it rained while the sun was shining from a distance.
https://youtu.be/h5f3v_o5F2M
What the fuck is wrong with people? Everyone gets offended at the drop of a hat these days. Why do they have to make it everyone’s problem?
I think that's the wrong and dangerous argument. It's a typical liberal talking point... for example, allowing people to constantly spew lies and inciting people to racial hatred works in creating and recruiting more racists. Or misogynists. We've seen it over and over again. If you tolerate intolerance you soon find your tolerance vanishing.
THAT should be what the argument should be about. Their religion of hate is intolerance, and shouldn't be tolerated, or in this case, not have any standing to sue for offending and injuring your "human dignity". There is no conflict there.
But we need to go even further than that to prevent those with the most amount of money and power to deform the reality we are able to perceive. All humans should have a fundamental "right to reality". Not being locked up in a simulation, and not presented by news or social media that shows an objectively wrong reality, or where you can't perceive what is science and what is woo. Politicians shouldn't be allowed to outright lie and face severe consequences for such behavior.
The principle behind freedom of speech is that democracy needs people to be able to understand the world they live in without the state or state-like entities like plutocrats being able to prevent important information and truth to be published. This has been completely perverted and speech has become a commodity, easily controlled. "They" control the agenda and call it free speech. Liberals need to understand that no principle can be pushed to the extreme. You have to look at the consequences and history. We know hate speech causes more fascists, we know lies cause subversion and destruction of democracy.
So are you agreeing with the lawsuit? You think that the lawsuit has merit? The person is offended because of their religious views and therefore the flag must be removed? What about the person who is lgbtq+ and sees the flag as a sign of support for their existence?
Remember, this country was found on the idea of freedom FROM religious persecution. Where people should not live their lives oppressed and told that their world view is wrong because the government (or in the case of historical context the kings or established church views).
https://youtu.be/oYq5a37-ZFE
No the lawsuit should have no standing at all. There should be no basis on being allowed to sue for being "religiously offended". But one should be allowed to sue because hate speech like someone is inciting hatred against an ethnic group or gender or other identity.
My point is that saying "sticks and stones bla bla but words can never hurt me lalala" like the lady in the video - that's wrong because words do turn into stones. And her argument would shut both hypothetical lawsuits down.
Liberal AntiFa successfully sued the KKK out of existence, but it took a lot of effort because the US has no hate speech laws.
I agree on your points on hate speech, however, nothing in this case has anything to do with hate speech.
So the argument against the lawsuit in the video was that speech should be completely free and everyone just has to bear with the insults. That logically means that hate speech also has to be accepted, which is incorrect because that leads to intolerance and fascism. That is why the video is incorrect, because hate speech cannot be tolerated.
The video was just a good illustrative example that people are truly offended very easily and trying to curtail other peoples freedom of speech because they’re offended.
Play my opinion there’s nothing wrong with being offended it just means that you’re conscious on some level and something bothers you. I also find it ridiculous that we are trying to bubble wrap everything in society and stamping out any form of free speech that is a mild inconvenience to someone.
That said, I am not a supporter of hate speech, I just think that people have lost any sense of decency and common sense in part to their leaders displaying that it is ok to behave this way.
Well I agree that we're seeing some kneejerk reactions to things, and unwillingness to engage or argue with perceived enemies. Like I'm so done talking politely with fascists but it swings both ways. Like that same trained behavior (because it is exhausting and painful) and good vs evil thinking has been redirected e.g. against anyone defending Russia or China or Iran. But strangely the same thing failed in trying to curtail criticism against Palestine.
But I think part of it is BECAUSE there is no legal recourse against inciting hatred against ethnicity or genders. The US and the US owned social media are very extreme and have totally changed how people talk. Before we didn't have people just constantly dogwhistling about race etc. So because there is no defense the only thing left is being offended. There is no moderation. We are left with impotent rage.
And of course the lawsuit in OP weaponizes that "freedom of speech" extremism. Tolerance is being sold as intolerance against the intolerant.
I'M NOT GAY.
Somebody should sue him for suing for seeing a flag. If that's the way we gon play it.
forcing to see is different. (Clockwork Orange) You can look the other way, teutonic twat.
Anyone this vocally opposed to pride should hace the back of their closer checked
Oh wow i really thought this was an onion article...
Love thy neighbor
His name is Batman? What a waste!
But also, I kind of (notice my emphasis) understand where he's coming from. A member of LGBTQIA+ wouldn't want the Christian flag on that government building during the month of the celebration of their savior's birth, so I understand that he wouldn't want LGBTQIA+ flag on that same building during Pride month. Honestly, government buildings should only fly that government's flags (whether country, territory, district, etc.), and should not fly any other flag (no matter the cause).
As a member of LGBTQIA+, i may or may not like to see a flag on a government building, but ultimately how could it affect me so much that my personal rights were violated?? that's nonsense to me. i don't think any harm would be done to fly a lgbtq flag, or a christian flag, or any non-political flag occasionally to support and promote inclusion of various communities
Christians have their own flag?
Sort of? It's mostly just used by western protestant groups. It's been around for about a hundred years. It's a little bland from a vexillology standpoint imo, but it gets the job done.
he must getting mixed feeling in his pants to be this upset.
what a weirdo
queer person sues employer for forcing them to see an american flag on the way to work
I saw another video today of some hag saying "who you have sex with is no one's business" but the flag is about equal representation and how gay marriage was illegal and they were denied rights. It used to be way worse than just being denied rights too-- it used to be dangerous to be out.
These people just can't face the fact that we do come from a darker world and the wounds are still fresh. They just can't think critically and inwardly it seems to hurt them. You don't have to feel shame but anyone can recognize this is exercising a right they had been denied for a long, long time
Holy homophobia Batman! It's 1984 and the Big Gay shoves gay frogs down a christian throat! Should've sued his maker for making him a whiney tool with pretty offending vibes of one another cross-cluthing mass shooter.
Spotted the Christian destined for Hell.
purgatory then hell.
love thy neighbor?
Group opposed to liberty for others calls itself the Liberty Council. And misspells it.
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." That doesn't mean you, motherfucker.
Sounds like a you problem
deserves to be countersued into oblivion
We should crowdfund bribing his neighbors to display pride flags.
What if they flew it semi mast?
Sad, nobody loves this guy enough to get him help
I kind of have to take the plaintiff's side. The government shouldn't be flying pride flags any more than they should be installing Nativity scenes. This isn't about agreeing or disagreeing with the opinion being expressed, but about whether the government should be expressing an opinion at all.
And really all he asked for was to work remotely for the month the flags were up, not to have them removed. I think that actually might fall within the "reasonable accommodation" laws he's invoking here.
Why are gay people an opinion?
We are not an opinion, but I don't think that's really a fair summary of my position anyway.
How is a pride flag an opinion is a pretty fair question to this statement. You compare it to an opinion, so it must be comparable right?
All flags are an expression of opinion. Even the pride flag has different versions that include or exclude different sub-cultures and allies.
The main issue would be proving seeing a pride flag “forces” him to “celebrate, recognize, and solemnize” anything LGBTQIA+. By that standard, a government employee wearing a cross necklace would be grounds for any non-Christian to sue for the same reasons. Insanely slippery slope.
This is a case where it's the government that's wearing the proverbial cross necklace, not another employee.
Haha what? One is a celebrating diversity and the other is religion.
Neither are a governmental function. I think that's the operative comparison to be made here.
Gotta WFH lunch room is not kosher, there's pork in the lunch room, etc..