Latest last week tonight is An eye opener on what they can really do when pressed by time and don't give a fuck.

The "Shadow docket" says hi.

In this instance it isn't law yet so I doubt there will be a rush to get to the SCOTUS yet, but the shadow docket is their favorite go-to with this administration to rush through whatever ruling they deem will help Republicans important.

What are they going to do?

"Corporations are people as per already established rulings."

"Political contributions are considered speech as per already established rulings."

"Hawaii is taking away poor poor corporations right to free speech under the first amendment, therefore it's unconstitutional and will be made null and void. Have fun shoveling money at your chosen candidates corporations! Don't forget my paycheck!"

The Spanish brought slaves to Florida in the early 1500s, but I doubt they would ha e been treated the same if they had escaped to other parts of what is now the US.

Thankfully we can at least provide somewhere to go for many of them, and we will continue to serve as a rallying point for developing better policy at the national level when the opportunity arises.

family/neighborhood/city/state/country/empire/hemisphere/world. Always weird to me where people draw the line. Bigger means more folks get to say what your rights are. Smaller means less people get the widely agreed rights.

Holy shit that is insane

Judge rules Fenwick Island's corporate voting does not dilute human votes

So I can buy a building and sell closet space to other companies (which I also own) for infinite voting power. This is absurd.

"However, plaintiff has not demonstrated ⁠that this ​policy violates the principle of one person/entity/one vote."

Never in my life have I ever seen it written this way.

I also like the note about there being “far more corporations” in DE than residents. So I guess this is just a case of it not having been demonstrated yet. I wonder how much it costs to license a company in DE. I wonder how hard it would be for the Internet to absolutely make these morons eat their words. 2 elections? 3?

Oh no. It's not even new. WTF, Delaware?

Nonresident voting in local elections has been permitted ​in Fenwick Island since it was incorporated in 1953, according to the court ruling. In 2008, Delaware's General Assembly amended ‌the charter ⁠to allow non-resident voting by artificial entities, including corporations, partnerships, trusts and limited liability companies, which must be chartered in Delaware.

Several other towns in Delaware allow companies and other legal entities to vote in local elections if they own property in the municipality.

So not only is the state of DE a tax haven, and cravenly pro-corporate at that, but this would allow all those companies chartered there (with nothing more than a rented closet and PO Box) to continue to vote for the status quo. If the good people of that state wanted to vote these assholes out and/or make corporate voting illegal, it's possible that they no longer can.

Can we just wipe Delaware off the map and replace it with Puerto Rico?

So, the ruling requires you to own land.

So someone should buy a few acres and sell 1x1 foot lots for a boat load of money.

Did you forget about other places such as the uk and Germany?

Likely due to state corporate taxes.

These state restrictions/etc on corporate powers are for all corporations who operate in the state regardless of what state they were originally incorporated in.

So AFACT any corporation can vote in delaware, not just delaware based ones.

Unfortunately I can't find a clip of her speech anywhere else online.

…being honest I didn’t really understand what the change entails but thanks anyway, I’m sure someone else with more knowledge in US law will find the answer useful!

Couple things.

When a corporation acts beyond the powers its state has granted, the act is ultra vires: outside the entity’s authority and void as a matter of law. The doctrine is older than the country.

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So basically loopholes aren't a free pass if the effective outcome is ultra vires than the action will be void by law.

The ones that do work would effectively be zero day exploits that the state legislature could patch. I would also expect state legislatures to uncover some of these loopholes during the process and preemptively amend their bills to prevent them.

Such as?

The more capitalism is limited, the better it is to live in those places. Unless of course the country is owned or populated by oligarchs, because their slaves probably don't tip the scales on the data that gets published.

Is it though? Is it fine for the majority of people in the world that there are a few countries that extract wealth from elsewhere so that their citizens can have a better life?

you're saying they would be afraid of the gallows, for the sole purpose of saying they'd do it, which would mean that we wouldn't need to give them the gallows. that is one step away from saying we don't need the gallows because they'd do it by themselves. that is dangerous.

Yea I prefer reading as well!

Fully agree. But what is the enforcement mechanism for SCOTUS to make the states repeal these laws if they indeed pass them?

Constitutional power is fundamentally different from the legal precedents SCOTUS has been overturning. Violating the constitutional right of a state could set a new precedent of State Supreme Courts ruling SCOTUS decisions illegitimate -based on constructional law.

I just don't see what SCOTUS can do about it other than wag their corrupt fingers in the air.

why can’t Nick charge 10$ a person to cover food drinks and service?

You've just described how legal poker halls work.

that’s a lotta power you’re ceding to the state, mate

anarchism 😎

edit: think about it. only the state's cronies get to keep their money when their taxpayer-funded enterprise crashes and burns?

I used to be a Libertarian, convinced by the whole idea of "government that governs least is the government that governs best" or whatever. But in that I was also exposed to the US Founder theories about government being a kind of "necessary evil." After awhile I came to realize that, yeah maybe government is a "necessary evil" but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't try and make that necessity something can work for us rather than against us. Which helped me see that Libertarianism is basically a grift to let wealth-hoarders maintain their addiction at the expense of everyone else. So yeah, bring on the Hawai'i Mamdani! I mean, the whole ahupua'a concept is based on equal distribution of resources and goods!

And you're almost certainly correct, but honestly that would still be an improvement to legalized corruption.

so, organizing people and doing stuff like that under the table to get around limits and such is the basis of a lot of different crimes.

Yes, that's why Hawaii is doing this--to stop that.

That has been how things have in been done in the US for almost a century