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Oh well, still not buying a PS.
Sony: but line go up
(line turns out to be steam deck sales numbers)
Sony: not like that
I can almost guarantee you that dude has a board or shareholders or whatever, breathing down his neck, and his yearly bonus is depending on the number of units sold. So he will canibalize the whole system with a complete disregard for the long term effects, so long as the magic number goes up in the short term and he can cash in his bonus.
You just described all business in the modern day.
This is exactly the reason the saying "they don't make them like they used to" is a thing for everything.
Exactly why Valve doesnt want any shareholders
Oh no, all 3 games.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
They will come crawling back after the current moron in charge gets fired. Until then, its like 4 games.
Exactly! They'll cut jobs and trim the fat until they run out of half-assed, short-term methods of increasing quarterly profits year over year. Then they'll remember PC gamers are almost exclusively adults and some of those adults have deep pockets and no interest in the closed ecosystems that consoles provide.
Just watch.
Fired? You mean given progressively larger bonuses until he’s poached by a completely different moronic public company just to repeat the same cycle until he dies happy, healthy, and wealthy beyond measure?
Lol they will not. The next Xbox is literally going to be a PC with a full Windows OS. Sony is not going to become Xbox and give people no reason to stay in their ecosystem.
They also sold 98 million ps5s. All the delulus in this thread acting like their money matters when it doesn't. Most of the Sony games sold poorly on steam. PC gamers aren't worth the effort.
People will 100% buy the ps6. I'm not missing out on more horizon, gow, or tlou. You say it's 4 games, meanwhile I looked at the top 30 best selling PS5 games and half of them were published by Sony: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_PlayStation_5_video_games
Hardcore PC players on Reddit/Lemmy just keep proving they're still detached from normie reality.
As of the end of the second quarter of last year, the PS5 was apparently just behind the PS4 in terms of lifetime sales, 84.2 million to the PS4's 86 million at that same point in the PS4's sales.
However, going into and during the November/December holiday season, sales dropped off compared to last year - selling 1.5 million units less during the last fiscal quarter compared to 2024.
So overall, the PS5 seems to be in a pretty healthy spot, having sold more units so far than the PS3 did in its "lifetime", but it has not done as well as Sony wants it to. It hasn't sold as well as the PS4, and definitely hasn't outsold it. And if the downward year over year sales trend continues, Sony will find themselves in hot water. With the economic downturn, sales of everything will continue to suffer, and I think something that will hurt the PS5 (and PS6) that a lot of console players don't think about is that PC gamers tend to also own at least 1 console. Many PC gamers owned a PS4 and a PS3 as well. But, with money becoming an issue, they're not going to drop their PC for a console. They'll drop the console for the PC they already own and accept that they'll miss out on the exclusives. And Sony already had issues with people not replacing their PS4s with a PS5. For years people simply weren't doing it. So far there are only about 8 PS5 exclusive games that aren't also out on PS4 or were timed exclusives that are on PC as well. And we're 5 years into the PS5's lifetime, which is usually a decade at most for console generations. That's not a lot of incentive to entice people to give up their money for a PS5 for. Why buy a PS5 for 8 games when I have the entirety of my Steam library going back to 2007? Plus, PC has its own exclusives. Practically an entire industry of them. The sheer volume of indie games exclusive to the PC means that you could play a new game everyday for the rest of your life and never spend a single cent on any AAA studio.
One thing that you're missing is why Sony games sold "poorly" on the PC, and that comes down to the port quality, the delay between console and PC release, and the price. Many Sony releases had/still have performance issues. And there was the PlayStation account drama, which probably hurt sales. Add to that that it's at least an additional year before a Sony game comes out on Steam, and then they charge full console price. Is it any surprise why they "sell poorly"? PC gamers have already had to wait a year or more for the game, they might as well wait for a sale for it to be at a reasonable price. But look at a game like Helldivers 2. The PC makes up a major portion of the player base. There's a reason that Sony said "single player" games, not all games. Games sell on the PC. PC gamers just aren't willing to accept the quality for the price that Sony was offering for their tentpole games. If we base the size of the market on the total number of games downloaded last year, the PC makes up almost half of the PC/console market: 857 million downloads vs 626 million on Sony consoles, and 546 million on Xbox, for a combined roughly 2 billion total games downloaded in 2025. The PC market is no drop in the bucket by console terms. We won't talk about the 52 billion mobile games downloaded last year.
Sony will try again if the PC market doesn't go in on buying a PS5/PS6 like Sony hopes, which I don't think they will. I don't think it will be anytime soon, but the line needs to go up. Forever. They'll cut costs where they can and increase prices as much as their customers will let them, but eventually they'll turn to other options, and the PC market is a low-hanging fruit tempting easy short-term gains for little effort.
If for every 7 or 8 game copies they would've sold on Steam for full price, one person now buys a Playstation and a single game, this move is still profitable for them.
Now all they have to do is announce like 2 decent exclusives that launch a month or 2 before GTA VI and they're golden. People suddenly have multiple games they need a console for (assuming they don't want to wait a year or 2 for GTA VI, which will sell like hot cupcakes)
They’re not worth the effort. And better yet they just collect 8$ indie games they never play.
"Everyone keep buying our console even though we keep raising the price. No? Fine, we'll keep all the games just for our platform, surely that will get you to buy a PS5."
How else would they? Honest question: what do any of the video game consoles have to offer except exclusivity?
Once upon a time, video game consoles offered the convenience of plug-and-play gaming, and living room comfort.
Not everyone wanted to build a PC and play with keyboard and mouse, and even still playing those PC games can be a hassle to set up on a TV if you’re common-denominator-levels of tech unsavvy. (Read: not the average Lemmy user)
Valve has brought that forward some with Steam Deck and eventually steam machine but by and large most PC gamers are Windows users.
That said, console platforms have gotten so increasingly hostile towards customers between pricing, licensing, download times and walled-garden tactics that they’ve painted themselves out of an increasing chunk of the games market.
People would rather set up a computer and a controller than buy a console, and it’s the corpo’s own fault.
You guys said the same thing about the switch 2 and it sold extremely well.
The world doesn't revolve around PC gamers.
Casuals are absolutely not building PCs
They’re not building PCs but they are buying/using laptops, and, to a lesser extent, prebuilts. I’ve also built a few gaming PCs on request from otherwise “casual” consumers though that’s a smaller portion of the market.
It's been a slow but steady transition. PC used to not even be worth big publishers' time to make a half-assed port, and now over 20 years later, in most cases, it's 50%+ of their customers and revenue.
Anecdotal account, so please take with a big grain of salt.
I want to add to support your position: even in Japan, we're seeing sections dedicated to PC gaming in normie electronics stores. It might not be the dominant platform yet, but it's definitely gaining mainstream acceptance with Twitch streamers becoming more prominent as well. It's slow, but it's happening even in the land of consoles.
The Switch still offers the plug-and-play experience the other consoles lost.
The other points still apply, but the Nintendo crowd doesn't seem to mind being fucked sideways.
People generally buy consoles because they are very simple, plug-n-play devices. Historically, they've also been able to produce cutting edge graphics for cheaper than a gaming PC, and although that price gap has narrowed over time I do still think it's true by a bit. (People like to point out that this is not true when taking into account the average price of games on console vs PC, which is completely valid, but I'm talking about the hardware alone here)
From a customer perspective, like 80% of the population is functionally tech-illiterate. They want to play games with the confidence that things will "just work". They buy the console, it has everything they need for a set price, they hook it to the TV, they choose a game, everything just works, and if it doesn't they know it's defective and they can just return it.
From a developer perspective, the hardware is fixed, so you don't need to consider every possible configuration of hardware, (CPU, GPU, displays, disk speed, controller, etc) windowing, OS versions, driver versions, etc. Every single one of these factors adds another dimension to testing requirements and debugging. You also get lower-level access to hardware, which allows for more granular optimizations. As a result, the console designers can put mid-range hw in it and expect devs to squeeze out performance compareable to high end PCs.
As a customer, I prefer PC, but as a dev, PC is kind of awful to deal with. So much time spent hunting down weird little corner cases that only occur in very certain circumstances.
Let's raise the price of the console by hundreds of dollars just to sweeten the deal!
Indies and AA games on PC ftw.
PC prices are also going up by hundreds of dollars. Look at what RAM and storage are doing.
PC players arent starving for games. We're drowning in them
I could buy no new games for the rest of my life and still not get around to completing everything in my library (and I'm excluding bundled games I have no intention of playing).
And in 10 years time, all of these exclusives will be available via emulation even if they never officially leave the console.
Dude, the last 10 games I bought haven't even been installed yet. Kiddo and I are still trying to wrap up other stuff.
plus you can choose to play 1 game until you get bored of it. not so for console where you have to keep chasing the next new thing that comes along.
Oh yes they will. You've just decided to stop making money on them. Fine by us.
yup. if they can emulate the ps3's insano-architecture they can sure as fuck figure out whatever comes next. they're simply guaranteeing a wave of piracy instead of profiting off their already developed IPs.
PC gamers were not making them that much money. They don't care about us. The sales numbers Sony games on PC were abysmal.
Fine by me. Sony does make good games and I can afford a console, so I won't mind buying one. Most of this thread is just copium.
That’s a bold move, Cotton. Let’s see if it pays off for them.
::: spoiler Tap for spoiler Valve has made the console model irrelevant. This is Sony officially giving up on the gaming market. :::
Valve still hasn't figured out physical copies and reselling.
But then, maybe they eventually will, or Sony and Nintendo give up on physicals (as they seem to want to)
Both companies are leaning hard on digital only sales. Between the standard PS5 shipping without a disc drive and Switch 2 cartridges being little more than download keys the physical retail market is in its last dying gasps. Steam handily has both companies beat in terms of game catalog availability and affordability. A few console exclusives might be enough to maintain steady sales, but it's an obvious trend that PC gaming is gaining dominance with third party publishers.
Also they want you to buy physical games then to activate them for your account, making them useless for resale (like with steam games, whether bought digital of physical). Sony and Nintendo are eyeballing it for a while now, it's just something causing insane resistance from their player base when hinting the idea. Same with single-player games requiring your device being online.
All they want is taking away your rights. Like digital games, making them the same price as physical but you're not actually buying the game, just the right to play their game for as long as they want to support it.
Back in the days you missed nice features when pirating software or movies (like the DVD extras) but these days the pirated version is better and with less restrictions than the purchased licence.
For example, I am leeching YouTube premium from a friend. But using the grayjay app gives me more rights and features than the premium version of YouTube, with sponsor block implemented, offline downloads don't require a connection to watch and you're not constantly fed with shorts slop. And you can categorize channel subscriptions and video recommendations are better.
Same with games. Want to play hitman? Sure, 60 bucks for a few missions, plus 140 for all DLC content so you actually have some decent amount of content and playtime. Or pirate it with all DLC content included. I'm fine with paying full price for a proper game, but if most content is locked behind a paywall, I'll just pirate it instead. Fuck them.
that was largerly due to the fact that consoles were getting more expensive and that it was getting to the point you could build a computer, that would look better than console, for the same or cheaper than console.
but the whole AI bullshit kinda blew that ship out of the water.. so Consoles may start gaining ground again as the affordable gaming option (compared to paying a console price for ram, a console price for storage, and 2 console prices for a GPU)
Console makers have to pay more for those parts too. Next gen is going to shock people I think.
yeah, but they still get the advantage of bulk buying and economies of scale.
While we don't. So their costs don't increase nearly as much as ours do.
nintendo is so reliant on pokemon, People are still buying the slop game freak is producing.
Sony was already very clearly migrating in that direction since the PS4, but didn't go all in thanks to microslop shooting itself in the foot with the Xbox 1 reveal
Love it or hate it, this is why we don’t want Xbox to fail.
Can they both fail? Consoles kind of suck. Closed platform owned by mega corps. Their main appeals of "easy" and "cheaper" haven't been true for years.
Microsoft could have done like a ... Steam machine for windows like 25 years ago. Optimized windows install on certified hardware, games that also play on desktop windows. They could've made steam. Except they couldn't because they're a souless corporate husk full of parasitic ghouls.
Fuck em. Fuck them all.
25 years ago, they weren't going to get any closer than the original Xbox did. PC gaming was extraordinarily different from what we know today, and much as you might not want to hear it, a lot of the reasons it got better were also because of Microsoft. The truth is we can only have something like a Steam Machine today because of incremental improvements that have been done over long periods of time. Valve basically started work on Proton right after the first batch of Steam Machines came out and bombed, and it took until 2022 for their next batch of hardware to materialize that made use of it. Closed platforms can fuck off and die these days, but they solved real problems for decades.
Please help me get a machine that compares to the PS5/XSX in terms of performance and cost. I'm being serious. Every time I look at putting something together it's gonna be like $1500-$2000.
Total ~ $570 - $665
Plus you don't have to pay for online and get cheaper (or free 🏴☠️) games.
PS5 and XSX run better at 4k resolution than my 3060ti does at 1440p in at least some games.
And those are all used prices. That nearly 6 year old GPU probably no longer has any warranty, unless someone bought it when the next 2 generations were already out. Not sure I'd trust used memory either when prices are as high as they are right now, people would be hella motivated to try to sell their old failing sticks. I'm also not sure where you'll get a 512GB SSD for $60. Cheapest 512 GB NVMe is 90€ near me. The Playstation has an 825 GB NVMe, or 1TB for some models (2 for pro, but that's overpriced).
The same price range (or a tiny bit less) still gets you a brand new PlayStation 5 with warranty, rather than potentially 5-6 year old components (hell, the DDR4 could be even older). You can also save money on the console too if you go used.
I'm a PC gamer, but let's not kid ourselves by saying that PC gaming isn't more expensive to buy into. It is. You do get a multifunctional machine though. I use mine for work and arguing with strangers on lemmy, for an example.
The up-front cost of a console is probably cheaper, barring putting some labor in and getting lucky on sales. You're right about that.
A PC has more utility, a larger library, and no subscription fee. That $80/year PsPlus subscription eats into the savings pretty fast. And when your playstation is end-of-life, it's far less useful than an older PC.
I'm sure some PC-building nerds would be happy to help put together a cost effective machine for you, but sadly I'm not that kind of nerd. I splurged on a pre-built machine when I had a nice job.
What did you buy?
1500-2000 PC would be twice as powerful as PS5.
If you pay 1000, you get:
Btw, 1000 is for a Steam Machine. You can get used parts that are better for even less. And you got a huge bump up if you already have some hardware beforehand.
Buy a used liquidated office PC, add GPU and SSD. Done.
The current market's kind of making it rough to find that at the moment though.
Consoles failing isn't going to make PC gaming any better, though. It's certainly not going to drive prices down. Though I'm not sure the inverse is actually true: hugely successful consoles with good competition isn't going to drive component prices down.
Microsoft actually sort of did try that. The Xbox was originally (internally) referred to as the "DirectX box"; it was basically a computer stripped of all parts not necessary for gaming. Microsoft has been pushing DirectX and gaming technologies for decades. You're right though, the games should have also been Windows compatible. I don't know why they weren't. Microsoft is going that way now, sort of, with Play Anywhere games that, if you buy them on Xbox, you can also download them through the Windows Store (which still sucks).
I don't know for certain but I have guesses. They probably thought they could make more money from a more closed system. Some middle manager probably had a kpi that benefitted from incompatibility.
They must not like money.
It makes me wonder what the PC profits were for the God of war games, last of us, etc., whatever else made it over. They really blew it with the forced accounts thing, but God of War was great. I always hoped they would port the demon souls remake but I guess that'll never happen.
Oh no, I'm so sad I won't be able to play their diverse library of third person action adventure games with linear narrative and light stealth and RPG elements!
We don't want any of that... What do you call it? Money? HAH!
Well he’s wrong because all console games eventually come to PC one way or another. He’s just ensuring they won’t be coming first under their control.
My thoughts exactly
That's funny because I'm not coming to PlayStation.
I guess they just sell less then.
And going forward, Sony won't get my money
I swear, this time I'm going to build tall and do a federation-focused, fanatic pacifist ethic! Honest!
10.5 hours later - I'm becoming the crisis whether I like it or not.
After the third war of choice your vassal has launched only to be reduced back to your borders until you fly in and save them, maybe it’s better if we just ate their planets.
You play nids in 40k don't you.
Oh no....
Please. Please don't make me address my 300 game backlog on Steam.
I'm a PC gamer so I don't have to deal with console bullshit. Been working out great for me since 1998.
Only 300?
Some of the games in my backlog came out in 1998.
Pff, backlog... I'm rotating between the same 10-15 games for years now.
No problem. Then other companies will get my money (and time). I'm not buying your over priced and proprietary console.
Uh, hard pill to swallow. So all my favorite Playstation games require a Playstation in the future? Like.... Eeeeehm, let me check my steam account with almost 700 games... Eeeeehm... Never mind, I found none.
Yeah. I'm just so beyond good without playing games that are locked to console. I kinda thought we were over this tbh, it's unfortunate that Sony is moving backwards.
I will say that I'm making an exception for GTA6 because, well, it's GTA, and I'll be able to sell the phycial copy and console when it releases on PC, it shouldn't cost too much extra to be able to play at launch.
With GTA5 online they have continuesly been adding more content without asking money for it (or at least, it was that, way back in the day, don't know for sure about now, but I don't think it changed). They only have the purchase of ingame currency. So I don't feel ripped off with an empty bug simulator which requires a shit load of extra payments to get what I expected in the base game. So yeah, I'm buying that as well. That studio has been consistent with proper story lines and well made games, they deserve my money. Same with Larian Studio. Same as many indie game devs. If I get value for money, I'm happy to pay for it. If I pirate a game and I spend enough time playing it, I'll buy it. Unless it consists mostly of DLC's. If a company tries to rip me off, I'll pirate their shit without guilt.
With GTA5 online they have continuesly been adding more content without asking money for it (or at least, it was that, way back in the day, don't know for sure about now, but I don't think it changed). They only have the purchase of ingame currency. So I don't feel ripped off with an empty bug simulator which requires a shit load of extra payments to get what I expected in the base game. So yeah, I'm buying that as well. That studio has been consistent with proper story lines and well made games, they deserve my money. Same with Larian Studio. Same as many indie game devs. If I get value for money, I'm happy to pay for it. If I pirate a game and I spend enough time playing it, I'll buy it. Unless it consists mostly of DLC's. If a company tries to rip me off, I'll pirate their shit without guilt.
A $670 buy-in for one single player game? No thanks.
Emulation's gonna bring them here anyway XD
My wife and I 100% Super Mario Wonder high off our asses on edibles. All on a PC emulator. I'm old and patient as hell. Emulation is our friend!
I hooked up my wife on Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. We do not own any Nintendo consoles and not planning to.
What all 4 emulated ps4 games? PS6 won't be emulated for like 10 years
Spider-Man 2 is literally the only thing they have that I want to play, and that is not worth getting a console for.
Spider-Man 2 is on PC.
Well I'll be damned, I thought they only ported the first one.
Man, it's alright. You don't have to get damned over a game.
If you played Spiderman Red (Peter) or Spideman Blue (Miles)
You've already played Spiderman 2...
It's the first time I read these games referred as Red and Blue (like Pokemon editions, lol). Why not just call it Miles Morales, if you have to specify what it is with additional brackets anyway? Is this common way to refer like that?
I guess I was just trying to point out how incredibly similar they were.
And how little Spiderman 2 does to change that.
That's because Miles Morales isn't a complete new game, it is basically a DLC released as a separate game. I never played any of these games and this is just what I got when reading about it at launch.
I mean you can say that but Sony sold it at a
$60$70 as a full game.Are you sure? I thought the game launched at 50 Dollar / Euros. Not sure how reliable this source is, but at https://psprices.com/region-us/game/4229669/marvels-spider-man-miles-morales-ps4-ps5 its listed at 50 for launch. Down below the ultimate edition cost 70.
$50 is still not DLC territory
Hard disagree, if you play 2, then go back to the first, they play so differently. Each iteration has movement getting even more fun than the last.
But WINGS
Seriously, so many tasks take you through/past Central Park, it got annoying having no easy way to websling through. The wingsuit is a great part of the kit.
Only question being, how the hell does broke, near-homeless Peter afford all the gadgets.
If you ever played a Spiderman game for that matter. I couldn't finish Spidey Blue. So boring. Cool cinematics tho.
The PS2 one is better anyway imo, and you can just emulate that for free. Speaking as someone who played the Insomniac Spider-Man games first too btw
Bungie convincing Sony that they were worth 3.6 billion dollars is the grift of the decade. Sony either did no research or they really are the dumbest, most gullible motherfuckers on the planet.
Bungie played an absolute blinder by signing up with Activision all those years ago as all the shitty monetisation they pulled got blamed on Bobby K.
Nope, turns out Bungie was just that shitty the whole time.
With halo and the staff that made it, you could argue they'd be worth that much but they didn't.
That argument lost all of it's weight after all the Halo veterans left or were fired/let go.
It lost it long before then, truth be told — it's not like Bungie suddenly started making bad decisions in 2025.
The majority probably left long before 2025
I think their CEO up to 2025 was a halo vet, but I'm pretty sure they were some of the last holdouts.
But at the time when they were trying to go independent it would've seemed a more accurate estimation of worth, it's just weird that they kept that valuation and most likely added onto it by the time Sony was interested. But also Jim Ryan was obviously enamoured with the idea of live service games and Bungie already had a successful one running.
All 5 of their exclusives won't come to PC? Oh no!
Anyways.
Seriously, emulate bloodbourne and I'm good. Got plenty in the backlog anyways.
Haven't had a Playstation since the PS2. Tried Bloodbourne for, like, 45 minutes when it was new. Still the only Playstation exclusive I want to play, barring Spiderman. But I can actually get those on PC, so.
When the made me make the decision between still using netflix or running linux on my ps3, sony lost my business
I mean... For this to actually matter Sony would have to release a decent game for the exclustivity. The last decent one in my eyes was Ragnarok, and I never even finished it.
I have a PS5. It hasen't been turned on in almost 2 years. I have no reason to. I won't lose any sleep over this decision.
Ragnarok was the only reason I bought a PS5. I also haven’t turned my PS5 on in almost 2 years.
No problem Mr. CEO emulation will do this for you.
I'm just starting to play Subnautica. That's how bad my backlog is. I think I will be fine.
Don't buy second one, it has slavery EULA
I was actually going to, pls give a rundown of the eula
You can't lawsuit them, everything you record in game their property, you can't use vpn, you can't share "bad" game content, can't mod it... And etc
Thank you for the explanation!
Isn't that from the publisher that asked AI how to about paying the developers a bonus?
I literally just started playing Subnautica for the first time last night as well after owning it for about 4 years.
PlayStation is still making games?
Kind of like Epic to be honest. They pay out the nose for exclusive rights, thinking shit today works like it did 20 years ago.
Not going to buy a PlayStation.
I imagine in a few years they'll come crawling back, and learn nothing from the whole experience.
Did I enjoy the Insomniac Spider-Man games on Steam? Yes
Will I buy a playstation to play future installments? No, I'll just go watch a letsplay or story summary on youtube if you dont want my money
Lol, sure. Voluntarily alienate an ever-growing chunk of your customers. See how that goes for ya.
PlayStation/Sony still proving they would rather screw players to rip off PlayStation owners. Guess God of War Ragnarok will be my last PS game for a while 🤷♂️
This is what happens when companies become too comfortable.
I don’t believe them. They just think that lying to the public will sell more PS5s… somehow
When companies do it, its called "marketing".
I thought they were making complete bank by getting rid of their exclusives and going the open platform route (which everyone complained about)?
They did so well that Xbox became an irrelevant choice between PC and Playstation.
Plus they were doing delayed PC releases, so I don't really see how that would affect PS sales since the port would come out much later.
It's Sony. The various divisions never know what each other is doing and the moment a new executive comes in, they charge everything to make it seem like they're important.
Well fuck you too buddy.
Egads! I'll have to play other games. The horror! The humanity!
Oh, these indie games are actually pretty cool and much better. Maybe supporting passionate devs is better, huh?
Heh. My backlog spans 19 years. I won't miss much. Only a couple of their first party titles got my attention at all.
This wouldn't be bad if we were getting deals like we were in 2008/9 with like a PS3 + 3 games and 2 controllers for £350.
Now is £550 for the console alone + £70 per year to play online + £70 for one game + £60 for a new controller + £100 for disc drive? Get all the way fucked.
For those who don't know, is largely because of Xbox supporting PC games on their consoles, and then also the Steam Frame. All of a sudden they know their hardware won't matter. Not excusing it, it's still incredibly shitty, but this is the main driver.
That makes sense.
…On the other hand, Sony could make a pretty sick PC gaming tower, if they wanted. They could still have first party titles and such through some proprietary store with a hardware check, but just give it the ability to play generic PC games too.
And do the same with a new PSP while they’re at it.
Right now, Indie games are wiping the asses of big industry games. Megabonk, Coal LLC, you name it. Singular people putting out content getting thousands of purchases. I know they have a team, but Relogic selling 70m copies of Terraria?
Kicking the asses of
or
wiping the floor with.
They're ready to kick gum and chew ass
Your loss.
This would not be a problem if the PS5 had any games.
Maybe they should make their console more affordable then
Tbh, it's not even about affordability, I just don't want to have to own four different devices in order to play fucking games.
How many CD players did you need to play regular CDs from all the studios? One.
Same with DVD. And Blu-Ray.
Consoles got a pass back in the day because they legitimately used different formats and architectures, but now they're basically all just single use PCs that don't even have a physical media drive, they can all piss off. If a game isn't available on PC, I'll wait until I have a PC powerful enough to emulate it, then I'll pirate it and they can shit up a rope.
Those are media formats (the first ones having different purposes anyway).
None of them had any significant exclusive content, because it'd have been an extremely dumb decision and no one would have bought it.
You're comparing apples to oranges.
Nonsense. Consoles were deliberately designed to be mutually incompatible. All the tantrum throwing in this thread is just people crying about Sony going back to the status quo of the 90s and 2000s. It isn't that big of a deal.
That's the last straw! I'm buying a playstation!
Could you please pump more into Generative AI so it's impossible to afford computers? Yes?! Ho thank you! And you also made playstations more expensive? Great!
/s
PlayStation at this point is like those soldiers you find deep in the woods, trying to fight the war on their own, ignorant to the news that the war ended years ago. still trying to fight the console wars in 2026.
It seems that the last great Playstation was in fact Playstation 3.
I just won't buy their games then? I'm not going to move over just for a few games.
I hope that when Horizon 3 is released, they will reconsider this. It's a series, and people who bought “Horizon: Zero Dawn” and “Horizon: Forbidden West” will be outraged.
I was really happy when I could finally play the horizon games and enjoyed the heck out of them. But if the third one never comes to PC then I'll just never play it. At worst I'll be able to just watch the entire thing being played for the story.
Same with part three for ff7 remake. But again I'll just have to live without it. My console days are over and they aren't coming back.
Enjoy going from getting some of my money to none of it, Sony.
cool, I won't buy your games then.
Hasn't this been tried before?
Yeah yeah we've heard it before. Now I'm not the kind of person to promote suicide, but that's because if you're rich or means we won't get to devour you alive and screaming 🍽️
Tell me again how much money they are losing because of Bungie. It's so funny
Well, there goes my money then
oh no...wait didnt they say this last time?
Wasn't planning on buying anything with sony's name on it anyway, so whatever.
Ok... is that supposed to make me sad? didn't care about exclusives before and this certainly won't make me care now, regardless which platform wants to do this idiocy.
Don't play station!
Sure they will, we'll emulate them for free.
idgaf I can't afford a computer with the AI price increase
Then I’m happy to have a Playstation 5 that I don’t use as much as my Steam Deck, but it would take a lot of great single player games to make me buy a Playstation 6 alongside my future Steam Machine.
I could not care less. They don't make games for me anyway.
Me says i wont be buying garbo consoles when theyre trying to lock them down more than they already are couldnt care less about their games, i will watch them on youtube if i have to
still waiting for bloodbourne on steam...
Rpcs3 is always there to be added as a non Steam game
Edit:ShadPS4
Bloodborne is famously a PS4 exclusive. You would want ShadPS4 for this, not RPCS3.
Oh no, look at me. It was 3am when I commented. Thanks mate.
I haven't tried that, how jank is it for BB? Like does it give proper 60FPS?
As someone pointed out, ShadPS4 is the emulator. It apparently works well now. Depends on your PC but I think 60fps high resolutions is achievable.
It's very much a CPU-bound program requiring single-core performance; I get about 50 fps at any resolution including 4K with a Ryzen 9 5900 XT and an RX 6700 XT. Ryzens are multi-thread beasts but their single-core isn't the best, it's not the ideal CPU for ShadPS4. You can turn up the amount of "GPU memory" in your emulated PS4, and need about 10GB for 4K.
Of course, Bloodborne originally ran at 30 fps, so that's more than enough frames and it looks amazing; didn't have any problems playing it all the way through. I will obviously not be upgrading my PC any further with prices the way they are, too.
hmm yeah I'm all the way team red as well, emulators are cool and all, but for non-retro games they never seem to scratch that itch, for me at least.
Are we watching the end of PlayStation in slow motion?
Owned a ps5 and Xbox series x.
Sold both. Don't miss them. Won't miss them
LOL On the cusp of the Steam Machine releasing sometime this year, they got grifted hard by Bungie, Sony needs the money (its easy money for them). Oh well, its not a major loss for me. Won't be buying their proprietary box and use their easy to hack PSN service.
Welp, guess it's back to playing Brazilian ports of PS titles again, cause I'm not spending $400 on a 6-year-old console. It should be less than $150 used by now.
that's fine I suppose
Good riddance.
death throes
It sucks, but it makes sense.
Their games suck anyways. Patapon was good but that's about it.
Pure copium
Probably not a lot of point while PC hardware costs this much.
I guess bringing it to PC several years late at full price isn't doing much for them either.
It may work for Rockstar, but that's about it.
It really is a shame. I regularly buy their games (without discount) within a month of PC availability, I just can’t help myself. I do so much extra work to minimise spoiler damage just because the game I want to play has a lot of people playing it.
I hate console gaming; or at least the 3 main titans. Microsoft will get my praise on this front alone. Arguably XBOX tanked their brand as a console provider when they did simultaneous PC releases for their 1st party titles, but I adore it. I’ve put in over 15 hours over the last couple of days on Forza Horizon 6.
Meanwhile I had to dance around Spider-Man 2 story/gameplay videos for over a year because I just couldn’t play it. I did this dance because I knew I would play it eventually.
So now if there’s a Sony IP I’m interested in I’ll know to either not bother or just watch story beats on YouTube.
Good job Sony; I’m never going to buy a PS, and now I can't buy your games ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
They never should have.