Basically every Call of Duty. Copy paste of the previous game with new paint. Never saw the appeal, gameplay is boring, just twitchy, and so many cringe people seem to love it.
The original and the expansion are honestly flawless multiplayer games. Modern Warfare and its sequel perfected the bombastic cinematic war movie style campaign and addictive multiplayer progression loop.
There is no reason to play a call of duty game beyond the first black ops (maybe MW3 just to see the conclusion of the story) but there have been, what 16 games since then?
Skyrim. It's a broken mess of a game that's barely held together by duct tape and hope, and it would be treated as such if it wasn't for the modding community. Most of the game is fetch quests, and the magic system is just bad. Melee combat sucks, too. All one handed weapons feel the same, all the two handed weapons feel the same. The only actually interesting path of progression is the stealth archer, and I'm pretty sure that's an accident.
Probably the best sandbox ever made though, just a shit game.
The fetch quests were particularly disappointing for me, given the history of Elder Scrolls games (cough cough Morrowind cough). I didn't mind the combat system (being able to equip anything in either hand was an improvement over previous games), but much of it did feel the same.
I think Skyrim is the perfect answer to this question. It’s a good game. Everyone has played a billion files because while it’s good it’s entirely unfocused and mediocre so people don’t feel motivated to take their character to the end of the game
I don't know which bug I ran into, but every friendly NPC in every town turned hostile and I could not fix it. I had no backup save file or anything. I just quit playing
Ocarina of Time. I mean, its good. But so many people act like its the best video game of all time. Its like barely top 5 Zelda game imo let alone the best game full stop
There are only 5 games in that category of Zelda game in the first place.
ocarina of time
majora's mask
windwaker
twilight princess
skyward sword
Breath of the wild and tears of the kingdom are totally different formula and the rest are not 3d.
For me it kind of goes windwaker -> oot/majora/skyward -> twilight. So I'd say it's up there, and the fact it's so foundational should give it some extra points. I'm amazed they haven't done a remake to up the graphics and give it modern controls tbh
This is a reasonable take, though I don't feel the same way.
OoT felt like an open world game at a time when those largely didn't exist (some did, but not really on console). The gameplay was still somewhat linear, but it felt like there was a lot of freedom compared to a lot of other games at the time. As a kid, I spent hours just exploring. I'm guessing this has something to do with its popularity at the time.
They are rich in story, lore, and world exploration. I love them for this. But! I hate having to revisit locations for new quests. It all feels like “Crap! Forgot the milk!” aaand, back to the store. “Crap! Forgot the eggs!” aaand back to the store.
There aren’t many games with full, deep stories, but it’s the grind that wears me down.
I tried to replay 2077 and there was just tons of dialog and all the action was over so quickly. I basically just drove around. Listed to dialog. Fought for a few minutes. Listened to more dialog and repeat.
Hard disagree on Cyberpunk, that game is fun as hell. But I agree with you about Witcher 3. Tried at least 3 times to get into it throughout the years but quit like an hour into it every time. Just not for me.
Naah it was okay, i like the touch of seeing the consequences of our actions past the adrenaline, i like the concept of disliking a good person or resonating with a villain
The main problem with Witcher 3 is that it's way too long. Was a real slog to reach the ending. Didn't even bother with the addons. Cyberpunk was great in my opinion.
I feel this way about all open world/map slop. I liked the first couple i played but after the novelty wears off it's an entire genre that sacrifices focus for a lot of lower quality content
I agree on Cyberpunk, though I still played like 20hrs.
I finished a mission and just realised I couldn't be bothered driving to the next one and blah blah blah and just closed the game for the final time right then.
First time I've been playing a game and that had happened.
I guess the game might still be worth it's sale price at 50% off if you can get 20 hours out of it, but it's still disappointing in my eyes that It wasn't able to keep me engaged.
I never understood why Breath of the Wild was so beloved. I played through it and Tears of the Kingdom, but I really wonder if they would have been as well received if they didn't benefit from the Zelda franchise.
I found myself getting annoyed with the game more often than excited. I very quickly became annoyed encountering koroks, or shrines, or the stupid sign guy. I think the bevy of side quests and collectibles diluted too much of the narrative and enjoyment of the world.
I'm also a botw hater. No Zelda dungeons, forces you to explore with shitty weapon health mechanic. I disabled that in the emulator and realized how pointless exploration was when you didn't need to replace your weapons. I'll give it the glider but every open world game has a glider now so there's better choices.
Botw is the worst thing to happen to games in years. I enjoyed it when it came out, thought it was a good game but bad Zelda game with it's lack of progression having a single toolset you get immediately.
But then everyone started copying it, Becoming open world games for no good reason, just to pad game length with travel and crafting whether or not it actually supports the central gameplay loop
My problem with BOTW after enjoying many other Zelda games was that my weapons broke and for some reason I was never able to get past that which made me not enjoy the game and quit.
I always preferred 8 and 9 over 7. For some reason, the characters in 7 never held my interest as much as in other games, and the gameplay was pretty basic for an RPG of that age.
Unfortunately, when I played 7 for the first time, I played it right after 5 which still has the best class system and 6 which has the best story. So both story and gameplay felt like a disgrace for me.
8 has always been my favourite. As long as I resist the urge to draw spam. It can get repetively easy if you just draw and cast magic from your enemy, never having to use your own resources.
Agree. I never cared much for the original FF VII. To be fair I am old enough where I started with the first one on NES, so VII was not my introduction to the series like it was for so many others.
I do really like remake though. I thought they did an excellent job with it.
Yes? I don’t understand this comment I don’t think. Isn’t that exactly what it means, the majority of people like this thing, and I don’t? Making it over rated? It’s not like there’s the “game rater” on earth like you might find a “name rater” in pokemon. Not like you can say “oh this guy objectively got this one wrong”.
No clue what name rater in pokemon is, but you do have OpenCritic, MetaCritic and the various awards some games get. I don't think liking a game and thinking it's overrated are mutually exclusive.
Okay. So what’s overrated to you then? You seem to have a different view than I do.
Is it AAA games that don’t deserve all the reviews and attention, so by definition, they’re overrated?
I’m genuinely curious too, maybe I should think of “over” or “under” rated, as more than just another way of saying “hot take” and expressing a generally contrarian opinion.
No, I don't think it's just AAA games that don't deserve all the hype, I think indie games can be overrated too. To give an example of both categories:
For AAA, it has to be The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild for me. And, I suppose, by extension Tears of the Kingdom. Good games, great characters and I really like the guardian enemy designs. Additionally, the game is a great showcase of what the hardware in the Nintendo Switch is capable of. The game is also highly rated on review sites and has received so many awards, wikipedia actually has to list them in a spreadsheet.
However, I genuinely think previous Zelda games are more fun. I think the vast, open world actually hurts the game, as it gradually becomes less about exploring and more about checking off tasks like finishing shrines and finding korok seeds. Previous Zelda games had smaller, more focused worlds and I think they were better for it. And even one would choose to ignore that, there's the fact that weapons break every two seconds and you constantly have to replace them, which I feel most reviewers just glossed over. Combat is pretty frequent, after all, so it does get grating. In previous Zelda games you get the weapon and you keep it.
For indie, I have to point at Don't Starve. And I want to focus on the original, not Don't Starve Together, which has a slightly different approach. Very pretty, with great animations, involved game mechanics and great replayability. It is also well reviewed and was nominated for several awards (I think it only won one, but being nominated is impressive enough, I think).
I liked it well enough, but ultimately bounced off it. Reason being, I found the game kind of stingy with telling you how some of its mechanics work, so I played it with a wiki open in my browser. I also couldn't bring myself to make additional playthroughs because of its glacial progression.
Sorry for the wall of text, but I hope this explains my position a little bit.
Thanks for the reply! So, you’re basically saying, in both examples, trying not to be reductionist here, but, “these are great games, and you don’t like them as much as everyone else seems to”. Very few people are going to have no complaints at all. I don’t see how my original point is invalid or how this is a different definition of overrated. Or how you stating your opinion is any different or more nuanced than anything else in this thread. Like, I could also just say your take on Zelda is just “a mechanic I don’t like”. So..
I'll probably get hate for this but most Fromsoft games. I just have never been able to get into them at all. It has nothing to do with it being hard, I enjoy hard games and always play on the highest difficulty. I just can't get into the combat, it's not fun for me.
I love Fromsoft games, but I've always thought that people kind of have horse blinders on when evaluating them as a whole.
What I think sets them apart:
the art
the setting and vibe
melee combat controls
What I think they severely lack:
sometimes it feels like I have to google nearly everything in these games because they never explain mechanics/items/quests properly. Most people would argue that's part of the charm, but I don't think it's executed well at all.
Basic combat is generally very fluid, but there are things that are just straight trash, such as ranged weapons. I just won't use those weapons for anything other than pulling mobs away from others
the story is just so abstract sometimes that I rarely know etc is going on
co-op multiplayer sucks. It really says something when a player-created mod works better than a system that's been in multiple games
Sorry I hate you. Demon's souls changed my life, and I've got 1000 hours into nightreign and probably 950 into Elden ring and I've played all the dark souls also. This formula is my Jam. I love them.
But at the end of the day... It's not everyone's cup of tea. I enjoy plenty of other games too. Hollow knight, balatro, etc.
I tried both games years ago. I found them boring, basic, and seemed aimed at young kids.
I don't usually judge adults for liking stuff meant for kids, there are lots of great games and shows like that. However Dota and LoL both felt very childish at the time. I'm sure it takes a lot of practice and skill to get good, but I've never had a desire to revisit either game.
Honestly, at this point, I find judging people who play those games is kinda fun.
Yeah I bought it on GOG based purely on the hype. Mistake. I played maybe 10h, got throught the introductory areas and started the main game. I just couldn’t. I am not sure why it gets so much praise.
If you enjoy RPGs it's very good. Great soundtrack, good story, and to me very fun combat loop. Most of my friends love it too. But some people seem to bounce off it. It won every award for a reason.
To me the game very much lived up to the hype and I'd highly recommend giving it a try
It was very pretty, and the soundtrack deserved the praise it received. Nothing too innovative about the gameplay though, and the story was good but typical for this genre.
That being said, I did enjoy it a lot. But that gameplay style is one of my favorites, so the visuals and music were just perks.
For most games, it depends on who you're asking. I, for example, hate multiplayer looter-shooters, so the most overrated game to ME would be Fortnite. It literally hold no attraction for me and the thought of even playing it makes me shudder.
However, the universal answer is really any EA sports title.
It's literally the same game every...damn...year....
Look, I'm not saying it's a bad game or you're a bad person for liking it, but man, I have never been able to see the appeal. As someone who has played a lot of shooters (mostly PC) and read a lot of sci-fi, I find it exceptionally mid. And I'm not really fan of the militaristic reverence vibe it's got going on like .. bleh. Does it actually criticize this more as the series goes on or is it really just all oorah? I also kind of blame it for the trends of vehicle segments and only holding two weapons that leaked into other FPSes at the time (looking at you Bioshock Infinite - WTF), although I do admit that's more of a petty, personal point. I respect that it pushed FPSes and online multiplayer forward on consoles, but when people tell me it's their favorite game with one of the best storylines ever I'm like, "But have you played any other games?"
I used to work in a game store back when Halo 3 released and I was a much more fervent hater back then, I decided I was gonna play the original Marathon games so I could be a hipster snob and hate on them, too. Actually ended up really loving them, though they're only loosely related, I think they had a lot more going on stylistically and story-wise even though the gameplay was more primitive.
I retry every few years, but never get very far. Maybe I should skip to 2 because one is so bland I get bored of it.
Halo CE is definitely a but dated now, but 2 is one of the best campaigns even still. I'm not sure it can be overrated though. 3\odst is some of the best multiplayer experience there was before the series was infected with CoD.
Skyrim. It was at best "fine" for me. I really dislike level scaling. The combat felt unsatisfying. I don't remember the story. It's not weird like Morrowind. The magic and enchanting was over-simplified.
But for many people it's their grand joy. So I guess that's good for them.
I'm old enough to have tried it when it was new and my opinion back then was that the controls made it nearly unplayable. I tried it again a couple years ago and I still agree with my kid self.
I just want, like, a bunch of new adventures using g the assets and rough blueprint of SMB3, Super Mario World, Super Matroid, and Link to the Past. I know there's things out there people have done to the ROMs that are essentially this and I keep needing to go look for them and... not.
I hate playing this on a N64. I own it, I've tried, it's a miserable experience. I largely chalk this up to it just being the N64 controller though.
With a proper controller, it controls very nicely imo. Inputs are precise and it takes some work to get good but it's overall still one of my favorite Mario games, next to Odyssey.
I don't think X4 would fit as overrated, since even the fans are quick to point out how much jank and questionable design you have to put up with in order to play
Did not expect caves of qud to be on anyone's list, as I thought it was pretty niche.
I also really wanted to like the game, but it felt oddly empty. I wanted less lost in the wilderness, less static quests, more dynamic stuff to do and explore.
By FPS standards it's not great, if you take it more as a "first person action game" ala Metroid Prime, its appeal makes sense. To me it's mainly impressive that they recreated so many parts of the movie and retold the story so well. But yeah people love it for the multiplayer which only impressed kids who didn't have PCs at the time.
I remember playing it at a friend's house and thinking "quake is better", but the four player local play on one game and TV was an overwhelming factor.
The thing for me was this predated the PlayStation, so dual analog was not a thing yet. GoldenEye was, to my knowledge, the first to emulate this by using two controllers. We had a ton of fun with that.
I still preferred LAN parties with mouse and keyboard. Lot of work, though.
OoT benefits mostly from being first for a lot of people. Your opinion is fairly common for people who played more recent Zelda titles first then went backwards.
Skyrim was extremely interesting when it was new because there wasn't anything quite like it, but now there's a lot of games that are like it and it's not that great and it's just kind of aged with mods or whatever
See but ghostbusters always crashed on my c64. So it was like the forbidden fruit. I never got to lay more than 5 minutes of it, but in my head it was the best thing ever. Lol. Human brains just suck.
I checked out Miner 2049er, because I never had an Atari.
I see ladders, the ability to kill the creatures, no keys and no exit.
And the whole fun of manic miner was finding out
whatever was going to try and kill you next,
penguins, ball-balancing seals, toilet seats, kangaroos, steaming balls, fluff balls,
bunnies, rotary phones, a flying eye, a credit card,
and then you end up in the intro screen as the last level.
lol, that game had tons of bugs. I tried 3x and everyone online said they never fixed them. I haven't tried it with my ps5 though, maybe it'll work for it.
The Last of Us part II demolished the prestige of The Last of Us. Its storytelling devastated the technical prowess of the company's workers. To date, Naughty Dog hasn't been able to produce any relevant game after circa The Last of Us. They produced part II which sold fine thanks to its predecessor, and they have made remasters and derivatives of the first game which is their milking cow.
Yet, part II has a following cult like flatearthers.
AI was great until the gaming community does what it does best, dissect the everliving shit out of it. Once the game became known then all the charm was gone because the AI followed strict, easy to bypass rules.
I hate the company for the way they enforce their copyrights and how they price games that have been out for a decade or more as if they released last week, but I really like the games, other consoles only have 2 or 3 exclusive games that are worth playing, but Nintendo has so many bangers. Maybe it's also the fact that I grew up playing mostly Nintendo games that clouds my judgement, but their games just give me such a good vibe.
Fair enough, i mean the question of "overratedness" is subjective in the first place, i ranked Nintendo first because no nintendo game make me want to play it.
Nintendo being one of if not THE shittiest game company out there is separate issue
I enjoyed at least one pokemon game long ago, which i can't say about no other nintendo game. So while Pokemon is overrated too, it is slightly less overrated than everything else.
Pokemon is the most overrated series? Everyone game is the same except for 100 new monsters and 1 new battle gimmick and yet it makes more money than Mickey fuggin Mouse
Fallout New Vegas. People act like it's the best open world game of all time. I just found it boring running around the desert. There are both much prettier open world games, and much more immersive open world games.
I love Fallout 1 & 2. I cannot get behind New Vegas. I've played through the whole thing, and I've tried revisiting it a few times and I just don't get the praise its given.
Fallout 3 and New Vegas both aren't 1 & 2, but I prefer 3 over New Vegas.
Clunky combat, simplistic gameplay (which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but when everyone and their damn mother praises the game nonstop...), too long of a story.
I finished it, but had no real desire to keep going or try different choices or whatever. I played Hearts of Stone, but still kinda had to force myself to finish it, and I only got an hour into Blood and Wine before calling it quits entirely. There's just too much.
Basically every Call of Duty. Copy paste of the previous game with new paint. Never saw the appeal, gameplay is boring, just twitchy, and so many cringe people seem to love it.
Do people rate that highly, or just play a lot of it?
They do tend to be overrated imo, especially as the series went on. They are still fairly competent so it’s not completely unreasonable either.
The original and the expansion are honestly flawless multiplayer games. Modern Warfare and its sequel perfected the bombastic cinematic war movie style campaign and addictive multiplayer progression loop.
There is no reason to play a call of duty game beyond the first black ops (maybe MW3 just to see the conclusion of the story) but there have been, what 16 games since then?
I've heard the world war II one was good too. So four games out of 16 maybe not overrated at best. Yeah not good numbers
I was disappointed when German soldiers were dropping PPsh's, but it was otherwise pretty fun.
Skyrim. It's a broken mess of a game that's barely held together by duct tape and hope, and it would be treated as such if it wasn't for the modding community. Most of the game is fetch quests, and the magic system is just bad. Melee combat sucks, too. All one handed weapons feel the same, all the two handed weapons feel the same. The only actually interesting path of progression is the stealth archer, and I'm pretty sure that's an accident.
Probably the best sandbox ever made though, just a shit game.
The fetch quests were particularly disappointing for me, given the history of Elder Scrolls games (cough cough Morrowind cough). I didn't mind the combat system (being able to equip anything in either hand was an improvement over previous games), but much of it did feel the same.
I think Skyrim is the perfect answer to this question. It’s a good game. Everyone has played a billion files because while it’s good it’s entirely unfocused and mediocre so people don’t feel motivated to take their character to the end of the game
checks I have more than 500 hours in the game and the furthest I ever got in the main quest is the Thalmor embassy mission.
The one time I tried I got a progression blocker bug
I don't know which bug I ran into, but every friendly NPC in every town turned hostile and I could not fix it. I had no backup save file or anything. I just quit playing
EA sports/fifa.
I’ll play flappy bird over that any day.
They're video games for people who don't like videogames.
Candy Crush and the million remakes from the same publisher. Stole the core mechanic from Bejeweled but designed to be addictive instead of fun.
Also how are you so shameless that you'll publish remakes of a game you stole in the first place?
A pretty hefty amount of popular mobile games were actually rips of flash games with microtransaction added lol.
Ocarina of Time. I mean, its good. But so many people act like its the best video game of all time. Its like barely top 5 Zelda game imo let alone the best game full stop
I'm ready for the downvotes
There are only 5 games in that category of Zelda game in the first place.
Breath of the wild and tears of the kingdom are totally different formula and the rest are not 3d.
For me it kind of goes windwaker -> oot/majora/skyward -> twilight. So I'd say it's up there, and the fact it's so foundational should give it some extra points. I'm amazed they haven't done a remake to up the graphics and give it modern controls tbh
I love the 2D games, and only like the switch games in the 3D category. I'm with you guys on this. Finally people making sense!
I'm right there with you!
Look up Ship Of Harkinian, be amazed
OoT in 2K at 200fps is great for the nostalgia kick!
The remake released 15 years ago on the 3DS. In fact the remake is now older than the original was when the remake released. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Ocarina_of_Time_3D
This is a reasonable take, though I don't feel the same way.
OoT felt like an open world game at a time when those largely didn't exist (some did, but not really on console). The gameplay was still somewhat linear, but it felt like there was a lot of freedom compared to a lot of other games at the time. As a kid, I spent hours just exploring. I'm guessing this has something to do with its popularity at the time.
I prefer ALttP
You're getting one upvote from me.
I also fully agree with everything said in brentalfloss' song
and I played it when it came out.
Worst thing about the game was the owl that kept the game from being an open world.
It was a step back from Mario64 and it came out something like 2 years later.
Majora's mask was the expectation. Ocarina of Time was what I got.
Agreed. I just don't like that type of game myself.
The Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk 2077. I found them both a chore to play. There's just something about CDPR's games I don't like.
They are rich in story, lore, and world exploration. I love them for this. But! I hate having to revisit locations for new quests. It all feels like “Crap! Forgot the milk!” aaand, back to the store. “Crap! Forgot the eggs!” aaand back to the store. There aren’t many games with full, deep stories, but it’s the grind that wears me down.
I seriously thought I was the only one who thought this.
I tried to replay 2077 and there was just tons of dialog and all the action was over so quickly. I basically just drove around. Listed to dialog. Fought for a few minutes. Listened to more dialog and repeat.
Hard disagree on Cyberpunk, that game is fun as hell. But I agree with you about Witcher 3. Tried at least 3 times to get into it throughout the years but quit like an hour into it every time. Just not for me.
That's been my experience with the witcher too. Cyberpunk pulled me right in for like 200 hours.
Insane take, the stories are so fucking good i creamed all over the tv
You cried at the funeral in Cyberpunk didn't you?
I totally didn't. Nope.
Naah it was okay, i like the touch of seeing the consequences of our actions past the adrenaline, i like the concept of disliking a good person or resonating with a villain
Well said
The main problem with Witcher 3 is that it's way too long. Was a real slog to reach the ending. Didn't even bother with the addons. Cyberpunk was great in my opinion.
Well the two DLCs for witcher are both better than the main game because they are smaller, self contained stories.
I feel this way about all open world/map slop. I liked the first couple i played but after the novelty wears off it's an entire genre that sacrifices focus for a lot of lower quality content
I agree on Cyberpunk, though I still played like 20hrs.
I finished a mission and just realised I couldn't be bothered driving to the next one and blah blah blah and just closed the game for the final time right then.
First time I've been playing a game and that had happened.
I guess the game might still be worth it's sale price at 50% off if you can get 20 hours out of it, but it's still disappointing in my eyes that It wasn't able to keep me engaged.
I never understood why Breath of the Wild was so beloved. I played through it and Tears of the Kingdom, but I really wonder if they would have been as well received if they didn't benefit from the Zelda franchise.
I found myself getting annoyed with the game more often than excited. I very quickly became annoyed encountering koroks, or shrines, or the stupid sign guy. I think the bevy of side quests and collectibles diluted too much of the narrative and enjoyment of the world.
Breath of the Wild seems like it would make more sense if you're a kid.
I know I would've spent countless hours just wondering the world, considering the real one kinda sucks.
I'm also a botw hater. No Zelda dungeons, forces you to explore with shitty weapon health mechanic. I disabled that in the emulator and realized how pointless exploration was when you didn't need to replace your weapons. I'll give it the glider but every open world game has a glider now so there's better choices.
Botw is the worst thing to happen to games in years. I enjoyed it when it came out, thought it was a good game but bad Zelda game with it's lack of progression having a single toolset you get immediately.
But then everyone started copying it, Becoming open world games for no good reason, just to pad game length with travel and crafting whether or not it actually supports the central gameplay loop
My problem with BOTW after enjoying many other Zelda games was that my weapons broke and for some reason I was never able to get past that which made me not enjoy the game and quit.
Final Fantasy VII
It's not even the best Final Fantasy
I always preferred 8 and 9 over 7. For some reason, the characters in 7 never held my interest as much as in other games, and the gameplay was pretty basic for an RPG of that age.
Unfortunately, when I played 7 for the first time, I played it right after 5 which still has the best class system and 6 which has the best story. So both story and gameplay felt like a disgrace for me.
8 and 9 were definitely improvements over 7
9 was thier love letter to all the og games. It might be the best one. But i have a big soft spot for 4 and 5
8 has always been my favourite. As long as I resist the urge to draw spam. It can get repetively easy if you just draw and cast magic from your enemy, never having to use your own resources.
And not even the final one
Agree. I never cared much for the original FF VII. To be fair I am old enough where I started with the first one on NES, so VII was not my introduction to the series like it was for so many others.
I do really like remake though. I thought they did an excellent job with it.
Your favorite game.
According to this thread overrated means either "games I didn't like" or "games that didn't work for me".
Yes? I don’t understand this comment I don’t think. Isn’t that exactly what it means, the majority of people like this thing, and I don’t? Making it over rated? It’s not like there’s the “game rater” on earth like you might find a “name rater” in pokemon. Not like you can say “oh this guy objectively got this one wrong”.
No clue what name rater in pokemon is, but you do have OpenCritic, MetaCritic and the various awards some games get. I don't think liking a game and thinking it's overrated are mutually exclusive.
Okay. So what’s overrated to you then? You seem to have a different view than I do.
Is it AAA games that don’t deserve all the reviews and attention, so by definition, they’re overrated?
I’m genuinely curious too, maybe I should think of “over” or “under” rated, as more than just another way of saying “hot take” and expressing a generally contrarian opinion.
No, I don't think it's just AAA games that don't deserve all the hype, I think indie games can be overrated too. To give an example of both categories:
For AAA, it has to be The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild for me. And, I suppose, by extension Tears of the Kingdom. Good games, great characters and I really like the guardian enemy designs. Additionally, the game is a great showcase of what the hardware in the Nintendo Switch is capable of. The game is also highly rated on review sites and has received so many awards, wikipedia actually has to list them in a spreadsheet.
However, I genuinely think previous Zelda games are more fun. I think the vast, open world actually hurts the game, as it gradually becomes less about exploring and more about checking off tasks like finishing shrines and finding korok seeds. Previous Zelda games had smaller, more focused worlds and I think they were better for it. And even one would choose to ignore that, there's the fact that weapons break every two seconds and you constantly have to replace them, which I feel most reviewers just glossed over. Combat is pretty frequent, after all, so it does get grating. In previous Zelda games you get the weapon and you keep it.
For indie, I have to point at Don't Starve. And I want to focus on the original, not Don't Starve Together, which has a slightly different approach. Very pretty, with great animations, involved game mechanics and great replayability. It is also well reviewed and was nominated for several awards (I think it only won one, but being nominated is impressive enough, I think).
I liked it well enough, but ultimately bounced off it. Reason being, I found the game kind of stingy with telling you how some of its mechanics work, so I played it with a wiki open in my browser. I also couldn't bring myself to make additional playthroughs because of its glacial progression.
Sorry for the wall of text, but I hope this explains my position a little bit.
Thanks for the reply! So, you’re basically saying, in both examples, trying not to be reductionist here, but, “these are great games, and you don’t like them as much as everyone else seems to”. Very few people are going to have no complaints at all. I don’t see how my original point is invalid or how this is a different definition of overrated. Or how you stating your opinion is any different or more nuanced than anything else in this thread. Like, I could also just say your take on Zelda is just “a mechanic I don’t like”. So..
Candy Crush
I'll probably get hate for this but most Fromsoft games. I just have never been able to get into them at all. It has nothing to do with it being hard, I enjoy hard games and always play on the highest difficulty. I just can't get into the combat, it's not fun for me.
I have much respect for "it's not fun for me" and less patience for "it's bad". Totally understand why you might not find the games fun.
I love Fromsoft games, but I've always thought that people kind of have horse blinders on when evaluating them as a whole.
What I think sets them apart:
What I think they severely lack:
Sorry I hate you. Demon's souls changed my life, and I've got 1000 hours into nightreign and probably 950 into Elden ring and I've played all the dark souls also. This formula is my Jam. I love them.
But at the end of the day... It's not everyone's cup of tea. I enjoy plenty of other games too. Hollow knight, balatro, etc.
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Dota and LoL. I shamelessly judge anyone who regularly plays either of those games by choice. Way too many people seem to like them.
It was a neat Warcraft 3 custom map.
Then it got weird.
Why though?
I tried both games years ago. I found them boring, basic, and seemed aimed at young kids.
I don't usually judge adults for liking stuff meant for kids, there are lots of great games and shows like that. However Dota and LoL both felt very childish at the time. I'm sure it takes a lot of practice and skill to get good, but I've never had a desire to revisit either game.
Honestly, at this point, I find judging people who play those games is kinda fun.
Expedition 33.
It won practically every single award even tho didn't really deserve it.
Not an indie game either.
Yeah I bought it on GOG based purely on the hype. Mistake. I played maybe 10h, got throught the introductory areas and started the main game. I just couldn’t. I am not sure why it gets so much praise.
Oh yeh that looked cool I was pretty pumped about that. Is it not so good after all?
Obviously tastes differ. I thoroughly enjoyed it and felt it deserved the praise.
If you enjoy RPGs it's very good. Great soundtrack, good story, and to me very fun combat loop. Most of my friends love it too. But some people seem to bounce off it. It won every award for a reason.
To me the game very much lived up to the hype and I'd highly recommend giving it a try
It was very pretty, and the soundtrack deserved the praise it received. Nothing too innovative about the gameplay though, and the story was good but typical for this genre.
That being said, I did enjoy it a lot. But that gameplay style is one of my favorites, so the visuals and music were just perks.
For most games, it depends on who you're asking. I, for example, hate multiplayer looter-shooters, so the most overrated game to ME would be Fortnite. It literally hold no attraction for me and the thought of even playing it makes me shudder.
However, the universal answer is really any EA sports title.
It's literally the same game every...damn...year....
Halo.
Look, I'm not saying it's a bad game or you're a bad person for liking it, but man, I have never been able to see the appeal. As someone who has played a lot of shooters (mostly PC) and read a lot of sci-fi, I find it exceptionally mid. And I'm not really fan of the militaristic reverence vibe it's got going on like .. bleh. Does it actually criticize this more as the series goes on or is it really just all oorah? I also kind of blame it for the trends of vehicle segments and only holding two weapons that leaked into other FPSes at the time (looking at you Bioshock Infinite - WTF), although I do admit that's more of a petty, personal point. I respect that it pushed FPSes and online multiplayer forward on consoles, but when people tell me it's their favorite game with one of the best storylines ever I'm like, "But have you played any other games?"
I used to work in a game store back when Halo 3 released and I was a much more fervent hater back then, I decided I was gonna play the original Marathon games so I could be a hipster snob and hate on them, too. Actually ended up really loving them, though they're only loosely related, I think they had a lot more going on stylistically and story-wise even though the gameplay was more primitive.
I retry every few years, but never get very far. Maybe I should skip to 2 because one is so bland I get bored of it.
Halo CE is definitely a but dated now, but 2 is one of the best campaigns even still. I'm not sure it can be overrated though. 3\odst is some of the best multiplayer experience there was before the series was infected with CoD.
You need cursed halo. All of the silly without any of the serious is exactly how I like my vidya
Skyrim. It was at best "fine" for me. I really dislike level scaling. The combat felt unsatisfying. I don't remember the story. It's not weird like Morrowind. The magic and enchanting was over-simplified.
But for many people it's their grand joy. So I guess that's good for them.
The McDonald's of wrpg
I never forgave them for removing medium armor and spears.
Pattern here: both of them had sick music.
Skyrim
Oh yes bought it on release because of all the hype. Then stopped playing after two hours because it was so boring and generic.
Tried it many times just so boring with clunky combat.
Minecraft
For me it's Mario 64.
I'm old enough to have tried it when it was new and my opinion back then was that the controls made it nearly unplayable. I tried it again a couple years ago and I still agree with my kid self.
I haven't kept up since the Galaxies but to me SMB3 is the epitome
I’ll throw hands with anyone who doesn’t like SMB3
I just want, like, a bunch of new adventures using g the assets and rough blueprint of SMB3, Super Mario World, Super Matroid, and Link to the Past. I know there's things out there people have done to the ROMs that are essentially this and I keep needing to go look for them and... not.
It's such a hard choice for me between SMB3 and Super Mario World. Both awesome games.
I've played through World fairly recently. To me, the SMB3 stages had far more variety and life to them.
I hate playing this on a N64. I own it, I've tried, it's a miserable experience. I largely chalk this up to it just being the N64 controller though.
With a proper controller, it controls very nicely imo. Inputs are precise and it takes some work to get good but it's overall still one of my favorite Mario games, next to Odyssey.
Skyrim.
Depends on the decade, honestly.
Reveared games I really tried to get in to, but nah:
I don't think X4 would fit as overrated, since even the fans are quick to point out how much jank and questionable design you have to put up with in order to play
I liked the 2016 Doom. It was kind a Half-Lifey and flow was good. Eternal was just too platformy and the arena shooter parts were nothing new.
Havent tried Dark Ages, because Hellsinger already tickled that itch and did it well. I'd rather return to that.
Did not expect caves of qud to be on anyone's list, as I thought it was pretty niche.
I also really wanted to like the game, but it felt oddly empty. I wanted less lost in the wilderness, less static quests, more dynamic stuff to do and explore.
Oof. Elden ring is my top 5 for sure. But hey, that's why we got choices and preferences.
Half Life 3
Goldeneye 007, N64.
The hype! The praise! The lack of mouse control!!
8 million kids using a twiddly joystick, and thinking it was good.
It's an awful FPS experience.
* The facade of cool was actually a frog-mouthed monster.
And if this was your childhood fave, I'm jk.
Oh no, you are not getting off that easily!! I am still raging impotently at my phone with a frothing mouth!
By FPS standards it's not great, if you take it more as a "first person action game" ala Metroid Prime, its appeal makes sense. To me it's mainly impressive that they recreated so many parts of the movie and retold the story so well. But yeah people love it for the multiplayer which only impressed kids who didn't have PCs at the time.
Sounds like someone was butthurt because they didn't get to play as Oddjob...
Fucking Oddjob.
I played this at a mates house for a total of 7 minutes. No OP Oddjob in sight.
I remember playing it at a friend's house and thinking "quake is better", but the four player local play on one game and TV was an overwhelming factor.
The thing for me was this predated the PlayStation, so dual analog was not a thing yet. GoldenEye was, to my knowledge, the first to emulate this by using two controllers. We had a ton of fun with that. I still preferred LAN parties with mouse and keyboard. Lot of work, though.
Vampire survivors.
Zelda Ocarina of Time is probably a solid contender.
Played it on our 3DS and it just felt like a worse Twilight Princess.
-- Frost
OoT benefits mostly from being first for a lot of people. Your opinion is fairly common for people who played more recent Zelda titles first then went backwards.
That is a very hot take.
Glad to know there are people out there who actually prefer TP over OoT.
Half Life 3
Absolutely unplayable.
If I remembered it, it wouldn't be overrated.
Skyrim, until the mods came
I remember playing Skyrim at launch. The very first mod I downloaded was to restore Esbern's voice lines; an npc critical to the main quest early on.
Bethesda forgot to reference his voice lines in the script, which broke the game.
Skyrim was extremely interesting when it was new because there wasn't anything quite like it, but now there's a lot of games that are like it and it's not that great and it's just kind of aged with mods or whatever
I hear you got an opinion
no I've never played it
Ghostbusters on the C64, it sucked.
Manic Miner, a ruined rip-off of Miner 2049er.
C'mon, weren't you blown away by the (at the time) novel digitized voice? "He slimed me!"
Of course, escape from Castle Wolfenstein did it even earlier ("was ist los, was ist los" and "ach, mein leben!").
See but ghostbusters always crashed on my c64. So it was like the forbidden fruit. I never got to lay more than 5 minutes of it, but in my head it was the best thing ever. Lol. Human brains just suck.
I checked out Miner 2049er, because I never had an Atari.
I see ladders, the ability to kill the creatures, no keys and no exit.
And the whole fun of manic miner was finding out
whatever was going to try and kill you next,
penguins, ball-balancing seals, toilet seats, kangaroos, steaming balls, fluff balls,
bunnies, rotary phones, a flying eye, a credit card,
and then you end up in the intro screen as the last level.
Spiderman, I couldn't even get it to work.
Did you remember to great power comes with great responsibility?
lol, that game had tons of bugs. I tried 3x and everyone online said they never fixed them. I haven't tried it with my ps5 though, maybe it'll work for it.
I just finished the remastered version. It maybe might have crashed once if that?
I couldn't get past the first fight even though I beat it.
That sucks. The down side of pc gaming.
ps4
That's very weird. I played on steam deck with no issues
Which one?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel%27s_Spider-Man_(video_game)
The Last of Us part II demolished the prestige of The Last of Us. Its storytelling devastated the technical prowess of the company's workers. To date, Naughty Dog hasn't been able to produce any relevant game after circa The Last of Us. They produced part II which sold fine thanks to its predecessor, and they have made remasters and derivatives of the first game which is their milking cow.
Yet, part II has a following cult like flatearthers.
Factorio? League of Legends? World of Warcraft?
has to be alien isolation. ai is ass, acts totally randomly, every room is the same, the environment doesnt make sense. i felt real pain playing it.
also control. whoever made those maplayouts and radar, they both should be shot on site right at the office.
AI was great until the gaming community does what it does best, dissect the everliving shit out of it. Once the game became known then all the charm was gone because the AI followed strict, easy to bypass rules.
Everything Nintendo maybe except Pokemon
I hate the company for the way they enforce their copyrights and how they price games that have been out for a decade or more as if they released last week, but I really like the games, other consoles only have 2 or 3 exclusive games that are worth playing, but Nintendo has so many bangers. Maybe it's also the fact that I grew up playing mostly Nintendo games that clouds my judgement, but their games just give me such a good vibe.
Fair enough, i mean the question of "overratedness" is subjective in the first place, i ranked Nintendo first because no nintendo game make me want to play it.
Nintendo being one of if not THE shittiest game company out there is separate issue
how do you say except pokemon, it's like the worst franchise they own
I enjoyed at least one pokemon game long ago, which i can't say about no other nintendo game. So while Pokemon is overrated too, it is slightly less overrated than everything else.
Pokemon is the most overrated series? Everyone game is the same except for 100 new monsters and 1 new battle gimmick and yet it makes more money than Mickey fuggin Mouse
Fallout New Vegas. People act like it's the best open world game of all time. I just found it boring running around the desert. There are both much prettier open world games, and much more immersive open world games.
It's an RPG with an open world, not a looter shooter with RPG elements.
And so many people say its so much like 1 & 2.
I love Fallout 1 & 2. I cannot get behind New Vegas. I've played through the whole thing, and I've tried revisiting it a few times and I just don't get the praise its given.
Fallout 3 and New Vegas both aren't 1 & 2, but I prefer 3 over New Vegas.
The Witcher 3
Clunky combat, simplistic gameplay (which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but when everyone and their damn mother praises the game nonstop...), too long of a story.
I finished it, but had no real desire to keep going or try different choices or whatever. I played Hearts of Stone, but still kinda had to force myself to finish it, and I only got an hour into Blood and Wine before calling it quits entirely. There's just too much.
Indie? Outer wilds Its competently put together but its the exact same as every game in that microgenre before and after it's release.
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Diablo 2
Boo this man
I had an extremely many hundreds of hours good time with this game during its era