Firefox. I'm not happy with how Mozilla Corp is operating, but I'm not switching to a Firefox fork unless there's actual developer exodus (akin to what happened to OpenOffice/LibreOffice). Ultimately, at this stage, those forks depend on upstream Firefox developers for 99% of the work.
OpenOffice.org was basically stuck in a bureaucratic hell of their own and couldn't really do major decisions without the leaders' approval. I think Sun Microsystems/Oracle was involved.
Some high up developers got basically kicked out by the governing folk, so they decided to start the Document Foundation to make LibreOffice, and vast majority of the developers followed. They were just happy to be actually able to do something.
OpenOffice got donated to Apache Project and there's been very minimal maintenance on it ever since.
I can't close tabs and have hundreds open (I have a problem). Between their workspaces that only show specific tabs, tab stacking, and tab memory management that kills the memory of any that I haven't used in a while so it's not absurdly slow… I don't think I could switch.
Why can't I enable dark theme on websites with IronFox? There's two places in its settings, I played around with both, neither works. Help me ween off Brave.
It's the best browser from a performance standpoint, and has the features i want, but it's still a bit of a resource hog. It's just that everything else is worse (slower, lacking essential features, or most often both).
It makes me sad because initially I was so excited for Ladybird. Finally a new browser engine instead of another shitty chrome fork. Then I find out what and absolute douche canoe the developer was and killed all of my excitement.
He moved from Sweden to Silicon Valley, made a bunch of money, but came to hate the "limousine liberal" culture, and felt he was severely discriminated against (in a professional sense) as a hetero white man.
So he left California, got sober, and went full time FOSS developer.
He is an asshole because he now enforces a strict "anti-woke" policy among his contributors, and bans anyone who falls out of line. It's one thing to ban controversial or political topics, but his interpretation takes things way past any semblance of reason.
A wild one i remember was when he banned someone for using singular they in some documentation, which has been a part of the English language since the Norman period at least. He said it was "political language".
Dang, I was not aware of any of this. A quick search pulls up a bunch of stuff. I'll look more into it for sure, but come on, can't we just have nice things?
I think there is a difference between having strong views and enforcing them on others, but also context is important.Also not all extreme views are equally harmful/harmless.
I've also heard the Lemmy dev has some bad takes (to perhaps put it mildly) but i've found the community to be mostly quite civil
See that was my idea till all the assholery happened. But if Ladybird is good and doesn’t require me to pay or see their shitty opinions I think I’d still use it. Cus to this day nothing feels better than a well configured hyprland to me at least
I mainly use Firefox as it's the best non-chromium browser I'm aware of for both Linux and android. But I also have Vivaldi installed on Linux for the rare cases where something doesn't work in Firefox, Waterfox on some of my older android devices because Firefox no longer supports the versions of android they run, and I also have F-Droid's Fennec on one of my phones because it used to be my primary browser on android and I just never got around to switching to Firefox on that phone.
For anyone wondering why I stopped using F-Droid's Fennec, it's just because at some point (possibly a few years ago) they announced that their browser was outdated and missing several security features from Firefox. It's possible that the browser is fully updated now, as it does seem to be receiving updates regularly, but I currently have no reason to switch back to using it as my primary browser on android. Now, if they were to revert the UI back to previous one, I'd have a reason to use it again. I really don't care for the UI both Firefox and Fennec have currently on android.
Waterfox and Zen. I switched to Waterfox a while ago and have had no problems with it. It's basically "Firefox minus AI," which is what I wanted it to be.
I started trying out Zen Browser a few days ago, too. It's another Firefox fork, but Zen is more willing to try new things with the UI. So far I like it.
So it's been Waterfox on Android and Zen on desktop lately. (Zen does not have an Android version.) They both support Firefox sync, and syncing works between the two of them. Pretty cool.
If you use Emacs, it’s the fastest way to do something like “pull all this data out of a page, clean it, put it in a table, and change the column order”
I'm in the same situation with Edge at work, it's surprisingly not THAT bad. I'd probably use it over Chrome if ever the need to make that decision came up.
I use Librewolf almost always I try others just for comparison an fun, here are they:
Librewolf: I use it for its privacy defaults and because it comes with no bloat and no nonsense.
Konform Browser: A fork of Librewolf but based on Firefox ESR rather than the regular release and focusing in smaller settings improvements. I've talked to the developer and they are very nice and seem to fix issues rather quickly. By the looks of it I will be moving to this browser permantly.
Ungoogled Chromium: For testing webpages, like styles and stuff for my blog.
Glide Browser: Its basically the Vimium extension + BetterFox. It's stil in early developement and it looks promising. I prefer Librewolf settings better than Betterfox so this keeps me from using this one.
Daily driving Mullvad Browser now, it’s Firefox based and has strong anti-fingerprinting and privacy defaults - it does break some sites though and is missing some QoL features but that’s the price you pay.
LibreWolf says I have "strong" protection but it also says I'm unique which I don't understand. Like isn't the objective to not be unique ? Or does it mean something is being randomised so I'm unique every time?
Within our dataset of several hundred thousand visitors tested in the past 45 days, only one in 1041.72 browsers have the same fingerprint as yours.
For comparison if I test in Firefox (configured as I was previously using) I get:
Your browser has a unique fingerprint
Your browser fingerprint appears to be unique among the 304,204 tested in the past 45 days.
"Strong" protection means that your browser is configured to protect against tracking, both come back as strong here, but as far as I can tell that doesn't take into account tracking through fingerprinting. You're right, you don't want a unique fingerprint.
When you customise and add extensions to your browser, you add to its fingerprint so even privacy extensions can be counterproductive. The way Mullvad Browser works is that because it comes ready configured for privacy with various privacy extensions (including UBo) installed by default you don't have to make changes. While this doesn't give you a "common" fingerprint exactly (hence "only one in 1041.72 browsers"), it makes you look like all the other Mullvad Browsers so there's safety in numbers. There are a few more nuances to it than that but that's basically the idea, and it's a balancing act, you could be less unique than that but you would need to make other compromises.
The catch is that you shouldn't try to configure Mullvad Browser yourself since that negates the benefit; you have to be able to live with the browser as it is out of the box which may mean sacrificing some of your favourite extensions.
So, uh... I think you're confidently incorrect on pretty much all of that.
When your browser requests a web page it doesn't report what extensions you have installed. It does report plugins but those are not extensions. My report says about 66% of browsers have the same plugins as me.
Ad blockers are a special case. Your browser doesn't tell the server you have Ubo installed but the server can detect an ad blocker if you're not requesting additional advertising related resources.
Most of the other user end configurations aren't really going to effect your fingerprint either.
It turns out that what I said earlier about intentional randomisation is correct. Firefox Resist Fingerprinting (RFP) which is enabled by LibreWolf randomises canvas results, so you're going to be unique for each fingerprinting attempt. That's just as good as being common.
In my own case, my biggest weakness is the fonts I have installed as reported by my browser. I might look into that.
Oh fair enough, I'll re-examine some of that information. I don't think I'm completely wrong. Advice on not installing extensions to avoid adding to the fingerprint comes from the official Mullvad FAQ. The philosophy of making all users look the same to blend in is something inherited from Tor Browser.
Mullvad also uses resist fingerprinting, yes canvas is unique every attempt. The EFF cover your tracks test doesn't penalise you for it, if you're coming up as unique there it's not because of that (some tests out there do though and Mullvad fails them). Having a randomised canvas itself may count as one data point I guess.
Zen is my default browser, is what I use on my Desktop and my Steam deck. I also use Firefox on mobile, cause there isnt a Zen mobile.
I use Safari on my iPad with uBlock Origin lite to watch youtube.
If I need to use a chromium browser, I currently have Helium installed, but I will probably grab Vivaldi as a backup browser.
I dont really have any plans to change away from Zen and Firefox, works for everything that I need, and anything that doesnt I kinda just walk away from. I also love the Zen interface and workflow.
It's pretty shocking that Firefox has so much use here! In a quick scan through the thread, I haven't seen ANY Chrome users! But it's supposed to be the clear winner of the browser wars, how come so many Lemmy users avoid it? I'm not complaining mind you, I use Firefox itself, but the cultural difference is striking.
I've been thinking a bit at how users self-select in different communities. I often make the same comment on Mastodon and Bluesky, and tech topics do MUCH better on Mastodon, despite the considerably smaller userbase, while general social media stuff does a little better on Bluesky. It's so interesting!
It all boils down to the echo chambers. People who surf web without any adblockers are usually the ones that are not tech savvy as much as the ones who would never surf without uBO. We are on Lemmy after all. This is not a "normie" social media.
As a web dev: Remember IE6? The stagnation, self-prioritization with nonstandard features, laden with spyware? That’s Chrome now. They’ll egg websites into enabling proprietaryBullshitStandard() when it’s still just webkitProprietaryBullshitStandard() and give little room for discussion. Their “move fast and break the web” attitude is why Edge, which used to be a unique browser maintaining a third competing rendering engine, gave up and became a Chrome fork. The team at Microsoft couldn’t even keep up with Chrome’s bullshit, and now 90% of the browsers people list just use their engine.
Right now I use Vivaldi on my work computer. For my personal devices (MacBook, iPhone, two iPads), I've been mainly using Kagi's Orion browser for about a year. It's a WebKit browser but even on iOS it can run (some) Chrome/Firefox extensions, which I think is pretty neat. I also dabble with iCab. It's a very eccentric browser with an interesting history that goes back to the 90s.
Firefox tweaked to the point it'd really make more sense to start with waterfox/librewolf if I didn't already have the momentum. Vivaldi is slicker, but I think it's important to support an engine besides chromium
Firefox almost exclusively with the requisite plugins. Only using other browsers when a site requires it, like Safari on iOS, but that happens maybe 1-2 times a year. I don’t even have Chrome installed anymore.
Zen on the desktop, Firefox on mobile. Zen has quickly surpassed what I thought it would be capable of, and it keeps adding awesome UI bangers that I wish Firefox would have though of decades ago.
I tried Librewolf for a while before switching to Waterfox. Librewolf has more built-in privacy features, but unfortunately it's just enough to make web browsing a little inconvenient. For example, Librewolf doesn't accurately tell a website what your timezone is, so the opening/closing hours on a store's website will sometimes be inaccurate.
I guess I still prefer trying to make waterfox more secure if I feel it's not good enough over trying to unfuck what I don't care about in libre wolf to make it work better.
I was fine on firefox , so I'll just stick to waterfox. thanks for your reply
Librewolf on desktop, ironfox on mobile. I don't agree with the direction Mozilla is going in, which is why I don't donate to them, but it's still kilometres better than chrome.
I can't wait until servo gets a stable release and browsers start popping up with that instead.
Firefox. Considering moving (back) to Waterfox, but unwilling to make the effort right now. I last used Waterfox back when they beat Firefox proper to being a true 64-bit browser.
But here's the interesting one that I've mentioned before: MiniBrowser. It's a bare bones browser that's included with libwebkit* packages on Linux, which are, in turn installed by various other packages that might need some kind of web-like parsing.
I wouldn't recommend it as a daily driver, but it's useful as a troubleshooting tool when I think there might be a problem with Firefox or between Firefox, my config, and some site or another.
i honestly tried cromite in the last week, but dark mod is buggy, ublock disables every second day, embedded videos dont show up sometimes, extensions are super slow, ui looks like ass. maybe the reader mode is better just a tad bit...but im back to ironfox.
since its a bromite fork, it is suppose to be a privacy oriented browser. ton of stuff has been added and filtered out. its just not good enough for everyday use...at least for me.
The last switch I made was on mobile I went from Brave (for ad blocking) to Firefox since Firefox for Mobile has extensions and I found a good cookie whitelisting extension.
I just had a quick search, I can be wrong so do not take these as facts but some parts seems to be open source and some UI parts closed, like many web browsers they get sone revenues from a start page but the owners seems very decent and advocates for internet privacy since the 1999.
Also they are based in EU which i trust way more than US servers.
I don't use the sync functions on browsers anyway, so it's of no consequence. Privacy wise, Brave is already built on top of degoogled chrome and the fingerprinting resistance of LibreWolf and the Tor Browser derived Mullvad Browser is too good not to use when possible. I haven't vetted any Firefox based browsers for Android yet as I have done with LibreWolf and Mullvad Browser for desktop, and Brave integrates really well with Android - as in, the user experience is great - so... XD
I use Firefox on all platforms.
Librewolf
Firefox
Firefox. I'm not happy with how Mozilla Corp is operating, but I'm not switching to a Firefox fork unless there's actual developer exodus (akin to what happened to OpenOffice/LibreOffice). Ultimately, at this stage, those forks depend on upstream Firefox developers for 99% of the work.
wait wait, what happened to LibreOffice? I'm trying so hard to not give microsoft money ;-;
Don't worry, this is very old news.
OpenOffice.org was basically stuck in a bureaucratic hell of their own and couldn't really do major decisions without the leaders' approval. I think Sun Microsystems/Oracle was involved.
Some high up developers got basically kicked out by the governing folk, so they decided to start the Document Foundation to make LibreOffice, and vast majority of the developers followed. They were just happy to be actually able to do something.
OpenOffice got donated to Apache Project and there's been very minimal maintenance on it ever since.
Vivaldi.
Second this because, they based in the EU and ain't adding AI. The only con is that it is not open source
I can't close tabs and have hundreds open (I have a problem). Between their workspaces that only show specific tabs, tab stacking, and tab memory management that kills the memory of any that I haven't used in a while so it's not absurdly slow… I don't think I could switch.
edit: Also, it's EU based.
Ironfox on smartphone, Librewolf on desktop
Why can't I enable dark theme on websites with IronFox? There's two places in its settings, I played around with both, neither works. Help me ween off Brave.
Didn't it take over the devices' theme settings? So far the browser itself is dark, some websites within are not.
Netscape navigator.
PSA that SeaMonkey is basically rebranded netscape suite still being updated
Firefox, begrudgingly.
It's the best browser from a performance standpoint, and has the features i want, but it's still a bit of a resource hog. It's just that everything else is worse (slower, lacking essential features, or most often both).
Firefox, Firefox developer edition, Firefox focus, waterfox, Fennec, and Tor
Zen, at least until Ladybird is ready.
What is ladybird?
A new FOSS browser made by a complete and utter asshole
It makes me sad because initially I was so excited for Ladybird. Finally a new browser engine instead of another shitty chrome fork. Then I find out what and absolute douche canoe the developer was and killed all of my excitement.
tell me more
He moved from Sweden to Silicon Valley, made a bunch of money, but came to hate the "limousine liberal" culture, and felt he was severely discriminated against (in a professional sense) as a hetero white man.
So he left California, got sober, and went full time FOSS developer.
He is an asshole because he now enforces a strict "anti-woke" policy among his contributors, and bans anyone who falls out of line. It's one thing to ban controversial or political topics, but his interpretation takes things way past any semblance of reason.
A wild one i remember was when he banned someone for using singular they in some documentation, which has been a part of the English language since the Norman period at least. He said it was "political language".
Yeah I won’t be supporting this browser.
Dang, I was not aware of any of this. A quick search pulls up a bunch of stuff. I'll look more into it for sure, but come on, can't we just have nice things?
Yeah me too. Didn't know. Frustrated. I was hopeful that ladybird was going to save us.
In fairness, the lemmy lead dev also has some... very strongly held ideological views incompatible with my own... yet here we are.
I think there is a difference between having strong views and enforcing them on others, but also context is important.Also not all extreme views are equally harmful/harmless.
I've also heard the Lemmy dev has some bad takes (to perhaps put it mildly) but i've found the community to be mostly quite civil
very in depth, thank you
See that was my idea till all the assholery happened. But if Ladybird is good and doesn’t require me to pay or see their shitty opinions I think I’d still use it. Cus to this day nothing feels better than a well configured hyprland to me at least
Yeah it's a similar situation. Sometimes assholes make arguably good software.
Also supposedly the Hyprland community has mellowed out in the last couple years. I can't confirm, but i hope it's true
I use many, usually Firefox.
I mainly use Firefox as it's the best non-chromium browser I'm aware of for both Linux and android. But I also have Vivaldi installed on Linux for the rare cases where something doesn't work in Firefox, Waterfox on some of my older android devices because Firefox no longer supports the versions of android they run, and I also have F-Droid's Fennec on one of my phones because it used to be my primary browser on android and I just never got around to switching to Firefox on that phone.
For anyone wondering why I stopped using F-Droid's Fennec, it's just because at some point (possibly a few years ago) they announced that their browser was outdated and missing several security features from Firefox. It's possible that the browser is fully updated now, as it does seem to be receiving updates regularly, but I currently have no reason to switch back to using it as my primary browser on android. Now, if they were to revert the UI back to previous one, I'd have a reason to use it again. I really don't care for the UI both Firefox and Fennec have currently on android.
Waterfox and Zen. I switched to Waterfox a while ago and have had no problems with it. It's basically "Firefox minus AI," which is what I wanted it to be.
I started trying out Zen Browser a few days ago, too. It's another Firefox fork, but Zen is more willing to try new things with the UI. So far I like it.
So it's been Waterfox on Android and Zen on desktop lately. (Zen does not have an Android version.) They both support Firefox sync, and syncing works between the two of them. Pretty cool.
Qutebrowser.
It's so damn slick. For anything not work-related, it's about perfect.
I had to scroll a bit too much to find this.
Floorp, a Firefox fork. It's fine, just trying it out.
And Firefox on mobile.
I use Floorp too. It's a weird little browser but I like it
Librewolf, Fennec
Firefox and emacs-w3m. I keep trying Nyxt but it hasn’t stuck yet.
What’s the advantage of emacs-w3m
If you use Emacs, it’s the fastest way to do something like “pull all this data out of a page, clean it, put it in a table, and change the column order”
Primary: Zen Browser.
Reserve: Edge
Zen was the beginning it was little odd but now I love it. Fast, feels great to use and no nonsense.
I can't use either Zen or Firefox at work so there I use Edge. Edge is also a nice browser, I really like the sidebar for mail and drop.
I love Zen.
I'm in the same situation with Edge at work, it's surprisingly not THAT bad. I'd probably use it over Chrome if ever the need to make that decision came up.
LibreWolf is the only right answer.
Ironfox mobile, Librewolf desktop.
Occasionlly Vivaldi if I have to use chromium for something on rare occasion.
Firefox, librewolf and thorium if I absolutely must touch filthy chromium.
I use Librewolf almost always I try others just for comparison an fun, here are they:
Librewolf: I use it for its privacy defaults and because it comes with no bloat and no nonsense.
Konform Browser: A fork of Librewolf but based on Firefox ESR rather than the regular release and focusing in smaller settings improvements. I've talked to the developer and they are very nice and seem to fix issues rather quickly. By the looks of it I will be moving to this browser permantly.
Ungoogled Chromium: For testing webpages, like styles and stuff for my blog.
Glide Browser: Its basically the Vimium extension + BetterFox. It's stil in early developement and it looks promising. I prefer Librewolf settings better than Betterfox so this keeps me from using this one.
Daily driving Mullvad Browser now, it’s Firefox based and has strong anti-fingerprinting and privacy defaults - it does break some sites though and is missing some QoL features but that’s the price you pay.
What results do you get on a fingerprint testing site like the eff one: https://coveryourtracks.eff.org/
LibreWolf says I have "strong" protection but it also says I'm unique which I don't understand. Like isn't the objective to not be unique ? Or does it mean something is being randomised so I'm unique every time?
Mullvad Browser:
For comparison if I test in Firefox (configured as I was previously using) I get:
"Strong" protection means that your browser is configured to protect against tracking, both come back as strong here, but as far as I can tell that doesn't take into account tracking through fingerprinting. You're right, you don't want a unique fingerprint.
When you customise and add extensions to your browser, you add to its fingerprint so even privacy extensions can be counterproductive. The way Mullvad Browser works is that because it comes ready configured for privacy with various privacy extensions (including UBo) installed by default you don't have to make changes. While this doesn't give you a "common" fingerprint exactly (hence "only one in 1041.72 browsers"), it makes you look like all the other Mullvad Browsers so there's safety in numbers. There are a few more nuances to it than that but that's basically the idea, and it's a balancing act, you could be less unique than that but you would need to make other compromises.
The catch is that you shouldn't try to configure Mullvad Browser yourself since that negates the benefit; you have to be able to live with the browser as it is out of the box which may mean sacrificing some of your favourite extensions.
So, uh... I think you're confidently incorrect on pretty much all of that.
When your browser requests a web page it doesn't report what extensions you have installed. It does report plugins but those are not extensions. My report says about 66% of browsers have the same plugins as me.
Ad blockers are a special case. Your browser doesn't tell the server you have Ubo installed but the server can detect an ad blocker if you're not requesting additional advertising related resources.
Most of the other user end configurations aren't really going to effect your fingerprint either.
It turns out that what I said earlier about intentional randomisation is correct. Firefox Resist Fingerprinting (RFP) which is enabled by LibreWolf randomises canvas results, so you're going to be unique for each fingerprinting attempt. That's just as good as being common.
In my own case, my biggest weakness is the fonts I have installed as reported by my browser. I might look into that.
Oh fair enough, I'll re-examine some of that information. I don't think I'm completely wrong. Advice on not installing extensions to avoid adding to the fingerprint comes from the official Mullvad FAQ. The philosophy of making all users look the same to blend in is something inherited from Tor Browser.
Mullvad also uses resist fingerprinting, yes canvas is unique every attempt. The EFF cover your tracks test doesn't penalise you for it, if you're coming up as unique there it's not because of that (some tests out there do though and Mullvad fails them). Having a randomised canvas itself may count as one data point I guess.
Oh cool, I had just assumed that it was Chromium-based when I first heard about it, simply because that's what most of them are.
Vanadium on secure mobile and Trivalent on secure desktop, and a mix of Fennec/Firefox and Chromium where required on casual mobile/desktop/htpc
Firefox. It's fine. The ai stuff is concerning , but nothing's caused me enough pain to switch yet
![email protected] is literally identical to Firefox, but the AI removed
Hm maybe I'll try that. Looks like there's an android version
Edge
Liar!
Mullvad on desktop rn
Zen is my default browser, is what I use on my Desktop and my Steam deck. I also use Firefox on mobile, cause there isnt a Zen mobile.
I use Safari on my iPad with uBlock Origin lite to watch youtube.
If I need to use a chromium browser, I currently have Helium installed, but I will probably grab Vivaldi as a backup browser.
I dont really have any plans to change away from Zen and Firefox, works for everything that I need, and anything that doesnt I kinda just walk away from. I also love the Zen interface and workflow.
Firefox
If I need a Chrome based browser, such as for Keychron Assistant, I use Helium.
Wait, Keychron Assistant works on Chromium? Are you on Linux? Big if true, I thought it just didn't work on Linux period.
It works in Helium and Edge, the two Chromium browsers I have used for such purposes. All my other browser usage is through Firefox.
I did find THIS tutorial to get Keychron to work in Linux.
Ah man, that's awesome! Thanks for randomly mentioning this, you just made my keyboard experience 100% better.
Dude thank you! I’ve had a hell of a time with my new Keychron keyboard and Linux.
Firefox mainly and some forks (Floorp, Librefox, Fennex, Ironfox) also Vivaldi
Firefox on desktop with every non scummy blocker I can have on it.
Samsung internet on my Zenfone with every non scummy blocker I can have on it.
Librewolf or Mullvad on desktop, Firefox on mobile. Downloaded Ecosia on mobile to try the search engine, so I’m trying out their browser too.
Firefox at home, IronFox on mobile, and Edge at work (not really my choice, but works fine).
I was fine with Edge until they started cramming more AI features in on a daily basis. Now I use Vivaldi if I have to use chromium based
So far, I main Vivaldi, with a back up of Mullvad Browser when I am doing research and don't want to be fingerprinted easily!
librewolf on my personal machine and firefox on my work machine (I'm only allowed vanilla firefox or chrome on there)
Firefox on Android and PC
Orion on iPad
Firefox on Android, iPad and PC.
Waterfox desktop, Fennec mobile
It's pretty shocking that Firefox has so much use here! In a quick scan through the thread, I haven't seen ANY Chrome users! But it's supposed to be the clear winner of the browser wars, how come so many Lemmy users avoid it? I'm not complaining mind you, I use Firefox itself, but the cultural difference is striking.
I've been thinking a bit at how users self-select in different communities. I often make the same comment on Mastodon and Bluesky, and tech topics do MUCH better on Mastodon, despite the considerably smaller userbase, while general social media stuff does a little better on Bluesky. It's so interesting!
It all boils down to the echo chambers. People who surf web without any adblockers are usually the ones that are not tech savvy as much as the ones who would never surf without uBO. We are on Lemmy after all. This is not a "normie" social media.
As a web dev: Remember IE6? The stagnation, self-prioritization with nonstandard features, laden with spyware? That’s Chrome now. They’ll egg websites into enabling proprietaryBullshitStandard() when it’s still just webkitProprietaryBullshitStandard() and give little room for discussion. Their “move fast and break the web” attitude is why Edge, which used to be a unique browser maintaining a third competing rendering engine, gave up and became a Chrome fork. The team at Microsoft couldn’t even keep up with Chrome’s bullshit, and now 90% of the browsers people list just use their engine.
Right now I use Vivaldi on my work computer. For my personal devices (MacBook, iPhone, two iPads), I've been mainly using Kagi's Orion browser for about a year. It's a WebKit browser but even on iOS it can run (some) Chrome/Firefox extensions, which I think is pretty neat. I also dabble with iCab. It's a very eccentric browser with an interesting history that goes back to the 90s.
I’ll check out Orion. Extensions on iOS sound intriguing.
I use Waterfox on my laptop/desktop and Ironfox on my phone (with Chromium as a desktop backup, and Vanadium as a mobile back up)
Firefox tweaked to the point it'd really make more sense to start with waterfox/librewolf if I didn't already have the momentum. Vivaldi is slicker, but I think it's important to support an engine besides chromium
Firefox almost exclusively with the requisite plugins. Only using other browsers when a site requires it, like Safari on iOS, but that happens maybe 1-2 times a year. I don’t even have Chrome installed anymore.
I swapped to WaterFox for everything and I've been enjoying it so far.
Zen on the desktop, Firefox on mobile. Zen has quickly surpassed what I thought it would be capable of, and it keeps adding awesome UI bangers that I wish Firefox would have though of decades ago.
Firefox for the most part. Ladybird whenever remember to build it, and the site I'm visiting isn't too complex.
Brave, Firefox focus, opera, and chrome(with js, cookies, and preloading turned off)
Firefox. Vivaldi. Firefox for anything important.
waterfox on debian, firefox on phone.
not sure if librewolf would be better on linux , open to convincing
I tried Librewolf for a while before switching to Waterfox. Librewolf has more built-in privacy features, but unfortunately it's just enough to make web browsing a little inconvenient. For example, Librewolf doesn't accurately tell a website what your timezone is, so the opening/closing hours on a store's website will sometimes be inaccurate.
I guess I still prefer trying to make waterfox more secure if I feel it's not good enough over trying to unfuck what I don't care about in libre wolf to make it work better.
I was fine on firefox , so I'll just stick to waterfox. thanks for your reply
Waterfox.
But also sometimes use Zen, Librewolf or Firefox.
Don't really have a reason why I bounce around. I just do.
But definitely never a chromium browser unless I have to.
Librewolf and fennec
Desktop: Librewolf, Firefox, Ungoogled Chromium
Mobile: Ironfox, Vanadium, Chromium
Vivaldi, as it isn't American.
Waterfox
Waterfox
I use Mullvad on my PC and Brave on my phone and tablet. (Please, don't hurt me fellow Lemmings)
Librewolf, Firefox, ironfox, and if I have to, Vivaldi. Fuck Google.
I use librewolf and ungoogled chromium all day every day.
Librewolf on desktop, ironfox on mobile. I don't agree with the direction Mozilla is going in, which is why I don't donate to them, but it's still kilometres better than chrome.
I can't wait until servo gets a stable release and browsers start popping up with that instead.
Firefox. Considering moving (back) to Waterfox, but unwilling to make the effort right now. I last used Waterfox back when they beat Firefox proper to being a true 64-bit browser.
But here's the interesting one that I've mentioned before:
MiniBrowser. It's a bare bones browser that's included with libwebkit* packages on Linux, which are, in turn installed by various other packages that might need some kind of web-like parsing.I wouldn't recommend it as a daily driver, but it's useful as a troubleshooting tool when I think there might be a problem with Firefox or between Firefox, my config, and some site or another.
I use a bunch for browser isolation. The one I have for general use is librewolf, though.
Firefox with Firefox Mobile and Servo on the side, getting ready to replace it.
I'm waiting for servo to be more like....functional.
I know it's kinda abandoned but I'm using Arc. Love the way it's set up and can sync between work and home.
Appreciate suggestions.foe where to go next?
Also have Mullvad for things I'm worried might get tracked.
i honestly tried cromite in the last week, but dark mod is buggy, ublock disables every second day, embedded videos dont show up sometimes, extensions are super slow, ui looks like ass. maybe the reader mode is better just a tad bit...but im back to ironfox.
isn't cromite almost just vanilla chromium?
since its a bromite fork, it is suppose to be a privacy oriented browser. ton of stuff has been added and filtered out. its just not good enough for everyday use...at least for me.
Librewolf/iron fox(Firefox based),Steam (does that count??),Gnome Web (Basically Safari on Linux)
Main browser - Brave Secondary Browser - IronFox
Safari, Firefox, waterfox and Vivaldi.
Firefox on laptop, and Firefox and Safari on phone
FireDragon based on Floorp
Firefox-esr. This is the old stable branch of Firefox intended for corpo use. Solid, battle-tested.
Ungoogled chromium. Has no googleslop and is very fast.
its still watchin u
The last switch I made was on mobile I went from Brave (for ad blocking) to Firefox since Firefox for Mobile has extensions and I found a good cookie whitelisting extension.
Icecat for pc, lightning for phone
Firefox
Mac and iPhone: safari. Mac secondary: mullvad. Linux: waterfox
waterfox and librewolf mainly.
links2 with -g if I am in a tty terminal.
Dillo for my super-minimalist setups.
Netscape Navigator
Vivaldi, so far very happy with it!
How is it in terms of privacy?
I just had a quick search, I can be wrong so do not take these as facts but some parts seems to be open source and some UI parts closed, like many web browsers they get sone revenues from a start page but the owners seems very decent and advocates for internet privacy since the 1999.
Also they are based in EU which i trust way more than US servers.
firefox and seamonkey on desktop
iceraven(ff fenix) or kiwi(ik it's eol) on android phone
Nice try, Stephen Fry.
Kidding.
Android smartphone: Brave
Linux desktop: LibreWolf
Windows virtual machine: Mullvad Browser
Kinda weird to use brave on Android but then use LibreWolf on Linux, no?
I don't use the sync functions on browsers anyway, so it's of no consequence. Privacy wise, Brave is already built on top of degoogled chrome and the fingerprinting resistance of LibreWolf and the Tor Browser derived Mullvad Browser is too good not to use when possible. I haven't vetted any Firefox based browsers for Android yet as I have done with LibreWolf and Mullvad Browser for desktop, and Brave integrates really well with Android - as in, the user experience is great - so... XD