Reminds me of my grandfather, these kids kept knocking his mailbox down with baseball bats. After the second time it was hit, he put up a new one filled with concrete. The very next morning there was half a wooden baseball bat on the ground and a dent in the mailbox. They never did it again.
I've heard basically the same story before from a local incident, but with the added bonus of the other side: they used a metal bat and the kid dislocated his arm and was almost pulled right out of the car.
This was my thought, you don't need cinder blocks in the way. Ice is hard and heavy, that shits gonna fuck up pretty much anything but a bulldozer or tank.
The "if I find out who did this" does bring that into question, though. If it was in front of a house it'd be very obvious who did it.
But given the vibes the car owner is giving off, it's more likely it was in a park or field or the sidewalk next to a road, and he thought it'd be okay to hit it because there was almost no chance of the creator catching him.
Yeah I was guessing a park or something. Which means the “kids” might have spent considerable effort to get the cinder blocks there in the first place.
If the snowman was build on the road, the driver is at fault for driving carelessly, not paying attention.
Nobody else was hurt. Nobody else's property was damaged. There is no one to be held liable.
This guy drove into a snowman, regardless of where it was.
A static object that only moves in Christmas music.
If it was a snowbank, same deal.
If it was a parked car, same deal.
If it was a fallen telephone/power pole, same deal.
If it was a pile of cinderblocks that fell off the back of a truck, same deal.
The guy either wasn't paying attention, or was being an asshole.
Either way, driving carelessly. Asshole is at fault
Even in case of a "usual" snowman, you can easily crack plastic bodyparts or dent metal ones. This is not GTA, where you just have to remember which items are breakable and which are not
I can confirm that hitting large objects can sound like hitting straight concrete or cement. I hit a black bear one night when I was going about 70mph on the freeway. Would have sworn some truck lost a load of cinder blocks or something. There was at least one fur tuft on my car.
Fun fact if you hit a living animal in the road it would only be covered under comprehensive insurance. If you hit something like a bear, just to use a completely random animal, because that bear had already been hit by another car (possibly as little as mere minutes before), then it's covered under collision insurance. Ask me how I know.
When you say "it," do you mean repairs to the car or to the animal? Like, if I hit a dog, I'm certainly going to get it to a vet if I can, (although the owner would probably rather take it themselves than trust my driving) is my insurance going to pick up the vet bill?
Oh wait, we'd want more help to the dog than "slap a coat of paint on it." I better just get out my credit card.
Not sure how a dog would be handled. Pretty sure it would fall under property, but might have some extra legalese around it. The it I was referring to in this case was the car. The bear was very unlikely to survive, but it did in fact scamper off. If you recall I said it sounded like I hit a bunch of cinder blocks. Well I got out and went back to try to see if the other driver was alright. Never saw anything in the road. The state troopers didn't see anything either. The first driver that hit it said it must have been about a 500lb black bear.
What would make you think driving through a snowman is a good idea to begin with? You'd have to be driving through a yard or at least jumping a curb. Take the guy's license away for reckless driving.
Its why mailboxes destroying cars never gets old. My favorite are the ones where they know someone in the utility companies and put a whole ass telephone pole so far into the ground that only the top meter is above ground then mount a mailbox on it. You can wrap a whole snowplow around those!
It still appeared serious enough to be upvoted by 700 people. I guess this speaks more on how the sanity of linkedin users is perceived than it speaks on the validity of the situation. And yeh, linkedin users are a bit fucked in the head.
My cousins used to live on a street with massive trees that dropped tons of leaves every autumn. The city would have special service days where everyone rakes the leaves into big piles in the street and street sweepers would come vacuum them up.
Hooligans liked the drive through the big piles in the middle of the night. I honestly kinda see the appeal, who could resist. Anyway, they started to doing the same thing. Piles of cinder blocks under some of them. I was staying with them one night and we heard some horrible carnage, came out to find some sedan high centered on a pile of cinder blocks with the bumper hanging off.
There was a news story some years back about a little girl who was killed when her father did this. She was playing in a pile of leaves and her dad was unaware of that. He drove through the pile of leaves and ... yeah, that was that. :(
Trying to find the original news story, I'm finding multiple instances of this sort of thing happening. Which is even more heartbreaking.
Having not heard the story, I wouldn't call him a shitty dad. If he didn't know she was under there it was an accident, I can't imagine the pain of accidentally killing your daughter
If someone died, that would be murder charges. Putting cinder blocks in the street under leaves is a boobytrap and those are usually illegal. What if it was an ambulance coming to pick up someone up next door? Or someone swerving to miss a cat?
Tbf they'll do neither, they just want to be angry and feel self righteous for a minute. They've probably forgotten about this convo already (or will soon). Sad really, I always assume things aren't right at home for them, like playground bullies.
Not OP but I think it's because it's just difficult to spot it. It's also possible that the clarity of this kind of ice shows the often-black (asphalt) road surface through it without any obvious sign that there's ice there. Could also be a connection to black/evil/cursed.
Probably a bit of all three, depending on who you ask and how they think about it.
Prior to asphalt - paved roads the term was used for clear ice over deep water.
Black ice is stronger than white ice, which is important if you're deciding whether it's safe to drive over or put an ice-fishing shelter.
It's also a hazard for rock climbing and scrambling, because it's just as unexpected on a rock face as on a road or bridge (well, maybe more expected on a bridge because they're known for it).
I'd be surprised if there were any legal consequences for something like this. It's not a "booby trap" in the traditional sense where it poses a danger to legitimate visitors or emergency responders entering a property. It is a solid structure inside another (seemingly less solid) structure. You should already not be trying to ram into it. It poses zero risk to anyone that doesn't already intent to maliciously destroy the apparently less solid structure.
we have issues in the UK with something like this. if you pay road tax you can park anywhere that isn't parking controlled, including outside peoples houses (so long as you're not restricting their access to the highway). some homeowners started putting traffic cones out to "reserve" the spot outside their homes (you cant legally do this btw).
People would just push them out of the way with their cars so homeowners started filling them with concrete.
Putting one of those in the road absolutely can and does get you in trouble
Doesn't it depend where the obstacle is, though? I'm assuming these are cars parking on the road, or at least a shoulder or driveway. If the cars are pulling up onto a front lawn and parking under the kitchen window of a house, that's entirely different. I'm pretty sure filling a traffic cone with concrete and placing it in a path a car is expected to drive on is going to get you in trouble anywhere. I doubt building a snowman with a stump or concrete core in the middle of a lawn on private property would get you in trouble in most places.
Yeah, so if a snowman was built on their lawn, on their property, and not on the street, and that snowman happened to have a solid core, whoever built the snowman should not be liable for any damages
The post itself is just clickbait, but legal consequences are not all that clear. It's honestly mostly about intent.
Here's a case where a guy's mailbox kept getting run over so he rebuilt it with a railroad tie and an 8" pipe burried 3 ft in the ground packed with concrete, and the guy who smashed it destroyed his car and paralyzed himself. https://www.courtnewsohio.gov/cases/2021/SCO/1124/201057.asp#.YaUu6xZOnDs
It went all the way to the Ohio Supreme Court where they found with a lack of intent to harm, the owners were not at fault, but that's a near miss. He said he filled the 8" post with dry concrete mix so if it rained it might 'firm up' which is sus and then buried it 36" in the ground testifying he was confident it would 'lay over' if struck. I'm not saying he wasn't morally in the right, but there's no way those to statements were factual accounts of how that went down. of course, the driver seeing an 8" post under a mailbox would have been equally insane trying to run through it. I'm thinking with a different set of lawyers, intent wouldn't have been all that hard to prove.
Also, could you imagine needing to employ a lawyer through several court cases, an appeal, and ultimately state supreme court hearings to keep from being responsible.
could you imagine needing to employ a lawyer through several court cases, an appeal, and ultimately state supreme court hearings to keep from being responsible.
The “I would sue”/“you should sue!” crowd isn’t listening!
It couldn't have been considered a booby trap, legally speaking, because it was a mailbox and was harmless for normal operation and traffic. It could only harm someone vandalizing the mailbox, so that's why intent came in.
If it was truly a trap, intent wouldn't have mattered. You are always liable for damages from a booby trap. That's why you set them up so they can't cause damage.
It couldn’t have been considered a booby trap, legally speaking, because it was a mailbox and was harmless for normal operation and traffic. I
But it kinda was a booby trap. Guy was tired of his mailbox getting smashed, concrete, 8" steel pipe, railroad tie head, I don't think he was going to killing the guy or even hurting, but it had happened many times and he knew it was a matter of time before it happened again.
They driver was clearly in the wrong. the box owner imo clearly had intent.
don't get me wrong, i'm not mad it went down that way, fucking driver was a dickhead and playing stupid games, I would rather the mailbox just destroy the truck and taught him a lesson.
The definition of booby trap requires it to be harmful to anyone who interacts with it, even innocently. Since it was only harmful to someone intending to knock it over by driving into it or who loses control of their vehicle, you need to determine intent to harm.
Assuming you can drive through any kind of obstacle already qualifies you as a moron. Even if it's just a cardboard box, you never know what's inside. Doing this and then acting all entitled qualifies you as a special kind of moron.
When I was a kid, I laughed at people swerving to avoid a paper bag. It seemed silly to me. My dad explained why they were doing it, and then chuckled as my eyes got huge and I said “OHHHH!”
Oh, you mean someone's bag of caltrops might have fallen off the back of the truck? Yes I like this story better. Puppies and kittens should all be cuddled up on sofas. And only be in bags when they choose to jump in there
There is a house near me that builds a snowman around their mailbox that is on a cemented in post. I would love to see someone freak out after smashing their car when they tried to destroy the snowman.
If you see a snowman just sitting somewhere and it's not in the road then it's on you for being a dick and going off-road to smash it.
Did they build this snowman in a roadway? If so, he has a case but "could've" (should've) avoided the obstacle... If the snowman was not built in a roadway: gtfo
I went and checked Facebook for notifications the other day and saw this exact post.
This is all over the place: Posts by people who are confidently wrong in some obvious way, just begging for some smart internet person to come set them straight and get their wimpy dopamine hit.
It is really enlightening, in a depressing way, to scroll mainstream social media like that and see the level of enshittification that people are conditioned to accept and keep scrolling through. It is so much worse than even ad-driven legacy media like live TV.
It caught my attention before I decided to ignore it, and even some of the early replies in these comments correctly pointing out the stupidity of the driver's ways have hundreds of upvotes, which is a lot for Lemmy!
The defendant has been found guilty. The plaintiff is awarded $4.37 to be paid directly from the defendants allowance over the course of the next year.
I thought roadside mailboxes were mostly an American thing. No? All the places I've lived in Europe had them at the door or in a common area like a lobby.
B) Back in the ‘70s, there was an article in National Lampoon where a guy liked to put a cinder block in a paper bag and watch people swerve to hit it.
Really wanna see a guy try to explain to the police why he hit a snowman with his car, trying to dance that line between not looking like he lost control of the vehicle but also not looking like this was a deliberate and malicious act.
It was trivially easy to find him on Facebook... and after a moment of scrolling his page it becomes quite obvious that it's all fake ragebait material. I suggest blocking and moving on.
That could very well be what happened. If an asshole like this made the effort to sue me, I’d gladly counter sue. Even if I only got them to pay my legal fees, I’d still consider it a win.
Fuck Cars, and asshole dickheads in particular who get thrills running over snowmen and scaring off cyclists and pedestrians. Deserves losing his braggart machine.
I would kind of like to give some benefit of the doubt. Maybe if the snowman was in his driveway or the road or an alleyway or something then it would be a justfied complaint, but all I can imagine in my head is him swerving through a front yard to hit a snowman and yelling "20 POINTS!!"
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What if there was a baby sitting and chilling in the snow man? Stay on the road, you dipshit, I recommend property seizure of this man and termination of driving license and perhaps an art course on snowmen and how to avoid driving over adventurous babies by staying on the fucking road and not being a piece of shit.
And $10K fine and put him on the sexual offender registration list.
"So you intentionally drove off the road to hit a snowman that was, unknown to you, filled with bricks?" "Yes" "Okay, were there children present near this snowman?" "Uhhhhhhh, no" "Okay, you do see how stupid this was, right?" "Uhh no" "Okay, well your claim is denied for reckless driving, to start"
This is ridiculous. White is the most common color for fleet vehicles so there are plenty of white used cars. Sometimes the color of the car is not that important. You just need a car because you live where public transportation is terrible.
Also, statistically, white cars get in fewer accidents. They’re easily visible during the day and more visible at night. And as you stated, white is a common fleet car color (maybe for this reason) and so it helps have a sense of anonymity, which some prize. There are far more white ford f150s than bright blue f150s.
If you plow through a snowman with your car, you're an asshole. If you do it with your brand new sports car, you're a stupid asshole.
Let me add one more: he's done this several times already which is the reason the kids added bricks in the first place.
Its like a honeypot for assholes.
Reminds me of my grandfather, these kids kept knocking his mailbox down with baseball bats. After the second time it was hit, he put up a new one filled with concrete. The very next morning there was half a wooden baseball bat on the ground and a dent in the mailbox. They never did it again.
I've heard basically the same story before from a local incident, but with the added bonus of the other side: they used a metal bat and the kid dislocated his arm and was almost pulled right out of the car.
there was a CSI episode about this
Where are these snowmen situated?
To make it worse, if they set a boobytrap on purpose that's illegal ( in in the US) and the kids could be liable.
the blocks were just there for support so the snowman stands better.
Yes
Putting a brick in a snowman is not a booby trap lmao.
Depends on intent but yeah
Same type of person would drive through a pile of leaves not thinking if there were kids in it.
I don't agree with driving into snowmen, especially if they're not in the street.
Sometimes you can't avoid leaf piles tho.
Many kids play in leaf piles, even in the street.
Even if it was just a snowman, that would damage your pretty car.
This was my thought, you don't need cinder blocks in the way. Ice is hard and heavy, that shits gonna fuck up pretty much anything but a bulldozer or tank.
Knew a guy who tried to drive through a snowdrift, totalled his car due to the ice buried in the snow
I’d have thought a snowman would do a fair bit of damage to a car anyway.
You could just use water to make the surfaces hard ice and it might be enough to hurt a front bumper.
Sometimes kids do it as a prank in the middle of the road
Unless the snowman was built in the road, the driver is at fault not the people that created the snowman.
I think the fact he doesn't explicitly mention it is an admission that it wasn't built on the road.
The "if I find out who did this" does bring that into question, though. If it was in front of a house it'd be very obvious who did it.
But given the vibes the car owner is giving off, it's more likely it was in a park or field or the sidewalk next to a road, and he thought it'd be okay to hit it because there was almost no chance of the creator catching him.
You could be right. Still, the asshole driver not knowing who to blame just makes it funnier.
He is to blame. He doesn't know that indeed.
Yeah I was guessing a park or something. Which means the “kids” might have spent considerable effort to get the cinder blocks there in the first place.
It makes one wonder how many times he'd done this before that they'd go to the trouble.
If the snowman was build on the road, the driver is at fault for driving carelessly, not paying attention.
Nobody else was hurt. Nobody else's property was damaged. There is no one to be held liable.
This guy drove into a snowman, regardless of where it was.
A static object that only moves in Christmas music.
If it was a snowbank, same deal.
If it was a parked car, same deal.
If it was a fallen telephone/power pole, same deal.
If it was a pile of cinderblocks that fell off the back of a truck, same deal.
The guy either wasn't paying attention, or was being an asshole.
Either way, driving carelessly. Asshole is at fault
Yeah, even if it was in the road it could have been a kid dressed up in a snowman costume...
In a trench coat, sneaking into a PG-13 movie.
His car damaged the snowman and cinderblocks
That reminds me of the time during a huge snowstorm, we got about 3 feet of snow. Not safe for driving. But I went for a walk to my buddy's house.
A bunch of college kids built a giant snow family in a four lane intersection of a major street. I cheered them on.
An hour later, I went back home to check. Those kids were taking apart the snow family. There were two cops behind them, supervising them.
Even in case of a "usual" snowman, you can easily crack plastic bodyparts or dent metal ones. This is not GTA, where you just have to remember which items are breakable and which are not
A large pile of uncumpressed snow can fuck up a car. Compressed snow used to make a snow man? Yeah you're smashing into basically a wall of ice.
Uncumpressed
I wanna be Cumpressed uwu
There’s a website you can order a cum press.
I'm sure you do
I'm honestly wondering if he made up the cinder block to try and make this someone else's fault.
Good point. Hitting cinder blocks would probably leave scratches on the bumper, no? I don't see any scratches in the photo.
Looking at that bumper, it really looks like the work of something soft but heavy.
Also notably absent: a picture of the cinder blocks.
Come to think of it, has anyone seen that guy and a cinder block in the same room together?
I can confirm that hitting large objects can sound like hitting straight concrete or cement. I hit a black bear one night when I was going about 70mph on the freeway. Would have sworn some truck lost a load of cinder blocks or something. There was at least one fur tuft on my car.
Oh no, was the bear okay? Tell me you saw him scamper off!
They took the body to central park (or whatever weird thing RFK did)
Look, I TOLD you what to tell me!
Its ok it scampered off! -source: I was the bear
It went to live at a farm upstate.
Fun fact if you hit a living animal in the road it would only be covered under comprehensive insurance. If you hit something like a bear, just to use a completely random animal, because that bear had already been hit by another car (possibly as little as mere minutes before), then it's covered under collision insurance. Ask me how I know.
When you say "it," do you mean repairs to the car or to the animal? Like, if I hit a dog, I'm certainly going to get it to a vet if I can, (although the owner would probably rather take it themselves than trust my driving) is my insurance going to pick up the vet bill?
Oh wait, we'd want more help to the dog than "slap a coat of paint on it." I better just get out my credit card.
Not sure how a dog would be handled. Pretty sure it would fall under property, but might have some extra legalese around it. The it I was referring to in this case was the car. The bear was very unlikely to survive, but it did in fact scamper off. If you recall I said it sounded like I hit a bunch of cinder blocks. Well I got out and went back to try to see if the other driver was alright. Never saw anything in the road. The state troopers didn't see anything either. The first driver that hit it said it must have been about a 500lb black bear.
or he had buyers remorse and tried to get it totaled, by saying it was blaming someone else. because he was stupid enough to buy an expensive car.
Yeah I involuntarily hit a small boulder of snow on the road and it cracked the plastic of my front bumper
Don't be an ass trying to wreck some kid's fun. Could just as well do the same if it melted and refroze a bit to turn it to ice. FAFO
Really. Just a small chunk of ice off a passing car or truck can do some serious damage. A whole ice/snowman? Might as well hit a tree.
So kids, use blocks of ice inside the snowman to reinforce everything. Ice can reasonably be expected inside of snow.
"But your Honor, there was ice in the snowman!"
Judge: "..."
"Frozen water within frozen water? How unexpected."
This. I hope whichever neighborhood group he posted this to told him in no uncertain terms.
Believe it or not if they did it on purpose to cause injury or damage, that's illegal.
What would make you think driving through a snowman is a good idea to begin with? You'd have to be driving through a yard or at least jumping a curb. Take the guy's license away for reckless driving.
it's a Mustang, it has to be satire
I'd hope so, but reality and satire are becoming indistinguishable.
Satire can be rearranged to spell "It's Rea". We are only missing the L.
saltire?
Satirical can be rearranged to spell "It's racial"
Prolly cuz they took it
more importantly, you are going to damage your car even if the snowman is not reinforced. what moron would do that?
It's the same people enjoying destroying mailboxes with their car.
Its why mailboxes destroying cars never gets old. My favorite are the ones where they know someone in the utility companies and put a whole ass telephone pole so far into the ground that only the top meter is above ground then mount a mailbox on it. You can wrap a whole snowplow around those!
Maybe they made tough snowman in the street?
The guy's page is full of trolling and rage bait. It's not serious
It still appeared serious enough to be upvoted by 700 people. I guess this speaks more on how the sanity of linkedin users is perceived than it speaks on the validity of the situation. And yeh, linkedin users are a bit fucked in the head.
I mean, it's the internet, it's like a 70/30 chance of it being someone who's really that entitled and stupid or just being troll bullshit
We do not know, and therefore should abstain from deducing fallacies out of air. I only commented on what was actually observable and relatable.
So Mark Majeski purposefully crashed his car into a static object and blames someone else for the consequences of his own actions?
Great example of american values.
Validity of his anger depends on where the snowman was placed before the hit: if it was on the road...
If you can't stop for a snowman, you can't stop for a child.
Hmm. Put cinder blocks in kids?
I've just been adding powdered lead to their eggs. They'll be a dead blow hammer if someone tries that shit!
How?
Snowman has about the same visibility as a child. So if you can't avoid hitting a snowman, you'd also hit a child on the road.
I suspect he was clearly seeing that it's a snowman and hit it deliberately.
Quite beside the point, don't you think?
My cousins used to live on a street with massive trees that dropped tons of leaves every autumn. The city would have special service days where everyone rakes the leaves into big piles in the street and street sweepers would come vacuum them up.
Hooligans liked the drive through the big piles in the middle of the night. I honestly kinda see the appeal, who could resist. Anyway, they started to doing the same thing. Piles of cinder blocks under some of them. I was staying with them one night and we heard some horrible carnage, came out to find some sedan high centered on a pile of cinder blocks with the bumper hanging off.
There was a news story some years back about a little girl who was killed when her father did this. She was playing in a pile of leaves and her dad was unaware of that. He drove through the pile of leaves and ... yeah, that was that. :(
Trying to find the original news story, I'm finding multiple instances of this sort of thing happening. Which is even more heartbreaking.
Not the first shitty dad to kill their child and definitely not the last.
Having not heard the story, I wouldn't call him a shitty dad. If he didn't know she was under there it was an accident, I can't imagine the pain of accidentally killing your daughter
This rules.
This is good revenge. But what happens when the street sweepers come to pick them up?
They use blower vaccums I assume and large cinder blocks wouldn't move anyway.
If someone died, that would be murder charges. Putting cinder blocks in the street under leaves is a boobytrap and those are usually illegal. What if it was an ambulance coming to pick up someone up next door? Or someone swerving to miss a cat?
I don't think you'll get far in court
I probably wouldn't. But the paramedic crawling from the burning wreckage of an ambulance screaming "MY LEGS! I CAN"T FEEL MY LEGS!" probably would.
Get off your high horse Karen
It would be manslaughter for the stupid driver driving into something obscured that they can't know is safe, at speed.
I'm not judging. I'm just telling you guys what would happen. So you probably don't want to try this at home.
But you're wrong Karen. What if a kid was playing in the leaves and they drove over them? The driver is at fault.
I urge you to talk to a lawyer before you try this stunt.
Tbf they'll do neither, they just want to be angry and feel self righteous for a minute. They've probably forgotten about this convo already (or will soon). Sad really, I always assume things aren't right at home for them, like playground bullies.
Reminds me of a short story.
I enjoyed that story, thanks
Funny
Thanks for sharing.
Damn that was good! I'll have to read some of the author's other works
This is why you don't ever drive on anything but clear road.
The roads I drive on are asphalt or concrete I've never driven on a clear one before.
I have. We call it black ice around here. Nasty stuff but sometimes you get a new car.
Bizarro universe.
Why do you call it black ice if it's clear though?
Not OP but I think it's because it's just difficult to spot it. It's also possible that the clarity of this kind of ice shows the often-black (asphalt) road surface through it without any obvious sign that there's ice there. Could also be a connection to black/evil/cursed.
Probably a bit of all three, depending on who you ask and how they think about it.
The opposite/corollary of black ice is white ice.
Prior to asphalt - paved roads the term was used for clear ice over deep water.
Black ice is stronger than white ice, which is important if you're deciding whether it's safe to drive over or put an ice-fishing shelter.
It's also a hazard for rock climbing and scrambling, because it's just as unexpected on a rock face as on a road or bridge (well, maybe more expected on a bridge because they're known for it).
We could call it ninja ice
In America, they call everything they don't like black.
I think it has historical reasons.
Because it's effectively invisible, and roads are black.
Black ice?
I only drive on rainbow road
It is a road that you go
I'd be surprised if there were any legal consequences for something like this. It's not a "booby trap" in the traditional sense where it poses a danger to legitimate visitors or emergency responders entering a property. It is a solid structure inside another (seemingly less solid) structure. You should already not be trying to ram into it. It poses zero risk to anyone that doesn't already intent to maliciously destroy the apparently less solid structure.
And it plausibly helps support the snow. There is a legitimate purpose.
we have issues in the UK with something like this. if you pay road tax you can park anywhere that isn't parking controlled, including outside peoples houses (so long as you're not restricting their access to the highway). some homeowners started putting traffic cones out to "reserve" the spot outside their homes (you cant legally do this btw).
People would just push them out of the way with their cars so homeowners started filling them with concrete.
Putting one of those in the road absolutely can and does get you in trouble
Doesn't it depend where the obstacle is, though? I'm assuming these are cars parking on the road, or at least a shoulder or driveway. If the cars are pulling up onto a front lawn and parking under the kitchen window of a house, that's entirely different. I'm pretty sure filling a traffic cone with concrete and placing it in a path a car is expected to drive on is going to get you in trouble anywhere. I doubt building a snowman with a stump or concrete core in the middle of a lawn on private property would get you in trouble in most places.
It would be illegal for others to park if it was actually on the property people want to own the public road next to their property
Yeah, so if a snowman was built on their lawn, on their property, and not on the street, and that snowman happened to have a solid core, whoever built the snowman should not be liable for any damages
Yes
The post itself is just clickbait, but legal consequences are not all that clear. It's honestly mostly about intent.
Here's a case where a guy's mailbox kept getting run over so he rebuilt it with a railroad tie and an 8" pipe burried 3 ft in the ground packed with concrete, and the guy who smashed it destroyed his car and paralyzed himself. https://www.courtnewsohio.gov/cases/2021/SCO/1124/201057.asp#.YaUu6xZOnDs
It went all the way to the Ohio Supreme Court where they found with a lack of intent to harm, the owners were not at fault, but that's a near miss. He said he filled the 8" post with dry concrete mix so if it rained it might 'firm up' which is sus and then buried it 36" in the ground testifying he was confident it would 'lay over' if struck. I'm not saying he wasn't morally in the right, but there's no way those to statements were factual accounts of how that went down. of course, the driver seeing an 8" post under a mailbox would have been equally insane trying to run through it. I'm thinking with a different set of lawyers, intent wouldn't have been all that hard to prove.
Also, could you imagine needing to employ a lawyer through several court cases, an appeal, and ultimately state supreme court hearings to keep from being responsible.
The “I would sue”/“you should sue!” crowd isn’t listening!
It couldn't have been considered a booby trap, legally speaking, because it was a mailbox and was harmless for normal operation and traffic. It could only harm someone vandalizing the mailbox, so that's why intent came in.
If it was truly a trap, intent wouldn't have mattered. You are always liable for damages from a booby trap. That's why you set them up so they can't cause damage.
But it kinda was a booby trap. Guy was tired of his mailbox getting smashed, concrete, 8" steel pipe, railroad tie head, I don't think he was going to killing the guy or even hurting, but it had happened many times and he knew it was a matter of time before it happened again.
They driver was clearly in the wrong. the box owner imo clearly had intent.
don't get me wrong, i'm not mad it went down that way, fucking driver was a dickhead and playing stupid games, I would rather the mailbox just destroy the truck and taught him a lesson.
The definition of booby trap requires it to be harmful to anyone who interacts with it, even innocently. Since it was only harmful to someone intending to knock it over by driving into it or who loses control of their vehicle, you need to determine intent to harm.
Assuming you can drive through any kind of obstacle already qualifies you as a moron. Even if it's just a cardboard box, you never know what's inside. Doing this and then acting all entitled qualifies you as a special kind of moron.
When I was a kid, I laughed at people swerving to avoid a paper bag. It seemed silly to me. My dad explained why they were doing it, and then chuckled as my eyes got huge and I said “OHHHH!”
can you ask your dad to explain it to me as well ?
Paper bags often have glass bottles in them. Glass+tires=a bad time.
oh. what's the correlation between paper bags and glass bottles ? is it a cultural thing ?
In the US you aren't allowed to drink alcohol in public. So they put the bottle into a paper bag.
In the US you can't openly drink in public, but you CAN if nobody knows what you're drinking
so this one time when I was a kid, I was biking through a parking lot and kicking at some garbage, because why not
I kicked at an upright soda cup. it exploded all up my legs and looked like I'd pissed myself for the next couple hours
same idea
Was it because there might be a puppy or kitten inside?
https://freedomgear.org/freedom-gears-custom-made-10-gauge-steel-hollow-ground-spikes-caltrops-the-ultimate-home-defense-and-tire-puncture-solution/
Ah, I've heard way more stories about bags of baby animals tossed out car windows than caltrops.
That's fair
Oh, you mean someone's bag of caltrops might have fallen off the back of the truck? Yes I like this story better. Puppies and kittens should all be cuddled up on sofas. And only be in bags when they choose to jump in there
Or they just put caltrops in paper bags on the road to be mean XD
There is a house near me that builds a snowman around their mailbox that is on a cemented in post. I would love to see someone freak out after smashing their car when they tried to destroy the snowman.
If you see a snowman just sitting somewhere and it's not in the road then it's on you for being a dick and going off-road to smash it.
The snowman alone would do serious damage.
What kind of psychopath purposefully runs over a snowman with their car to begin with?
With their BRAND NEW car too
It surely would have trashed his car even if it was a regular snowman. Dude is a douche.
Did they build this snowman in a roadway? If so, he has a case but "could've" (should've) avoided the obstacle... If the snowman was not built in a roadway: gtfo
Engagement bait.
I went and checked Facebook for notifications the other day and saw this exact post.
This is all over the place: Posts by people who are confidently wrong in some obvious way, just begging for some smart internet person to come set them straight and get their wimpy dopamine hit.
It is really enlightening, in a depressing way, to scroll mainstream social media like that and see the level of enshittification that people are conditioned to accept and keep scrolling through. It is so much worse than even ad-driven legacy media like live TV.
Problem is, we cant stop this.
Yep. It works.
It caught my attention before I decided to ignore it, and even some of the early replies in these comments correctly pointing out the stupidity of the driver's ways have hundreds of upvotes, which is a lot for Lemmy!
I don’t like it one bit. But please do have my upvote because you are sadly spot on.
I'm mad because a child's creation caused damage to my newly bought, overpriced 2026 Redneck Sports Car™ and I'm going to resort to litigation! /s
The defendant has been found guilty. The plaintiff is awarded $4.37 to be paid directly from the defendants allowance over the course of the next year.
Reminds me of that dude that fashioned a concrete reinforced steel mailbox pole and got sued after paralysing a dude that hit it.
https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/homeowner-who-fortified-his-mailbox-after-repeated-vandalism-is-sued-by-driver-who-was-left-paralyzed-after-crashing-into-it.4580112/
Homeowner won though.
Thanks I didnt know but will spread this message IRL
Wtf is that article? The first 6 paragraphs literally keep repeating the same info???
Sorry, maybe you'll like one of these better.
https://www.matassinilaw.com/fortified-mailbox-results-in-personal-injury-lawsuit/
https://www.abajournal.com/news/article/driver-injured-in-collision-with-fortified-mailbox-cant-sue-owners-top-ohio-court-says
https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/oh-huron/fortified-mailbox-owners-in-huron-county-not-liable-in-paralyzing-2016-crash
https://www.supremecourt.ohio.gov/rod/docs/pdf/0/2021/2021-Ohio-4113.pdf
https://nypost.com/2021/06/22/appeals-court-hears-case-of-man-paralyzed-from-crash-with-reinforced-mailbox/
https://www.courtnewsohio.gov/cases/2021/SCO/previews/0615-16/0615-16.asp
https://www.courtnewsohio.gov/cases/2021/SCO/1124/201057.asp
https://www.facebook.com/NYDailyNews/posts/a-driver-who-was-paralyzed-after-plowing-into-the-fortified-mailbox-of-an-ohio-h/1015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW0qa3L_oTQ
https://www.facebook.com/News5Cleveland/videos/driver-sues-huron-co-homeowner-after-fortified-mailbox-causes-truck-to-flip-oh-s/
Cannot access the first one but these are much better
https://archive.is/wip/Nfxsv
What a very American sentence.
Do other nations not have ice or work in December?
The "Cletus driving a pickup into a mailbox part."
Agree on the first two, but dumbasses/drunks hitting shit is a global tradition
I thought roadside mailboxes were mostly an American thing. No? All the places I've lived in Europe had them at the door or in a common area like a lobby.
That just means you have never lived rurally
Correct, my friend.
...but why did you hit a snowman in the first place? Funny how he doesn't mention that part.
I guess he was doing donuts in a public park or something like that to not know who built the snowman. Can't drive there m8.
https://lemmy.zip/comment/24386678
Like a porch pirate complaining they got glitter all over themselves.
Fuck Cars the Snowman
was an angry vengeful soul
With a corncob pipe and some cinder blocks
to make drivers barrel roll
A) I don’t believe this is real.
B) Back in the ‘70s, there was an article in National Lampoon where a guy liked to put a cinder block in a paper bag and watch people swerve to hit it.
I sincerely hope they get laughed out of court.
Really wanna see a guy try to explain to the police why he hit a snowman with his car, trying to dance that line between not looking like he lost control of the vehicle but also not looking like this was a deliberate and malicious act.
I'm not going Post the link in case there's some rule about brigading here but fear not, he is getting roasted in the comments of his post.
It was trivially easy to find him on Facebook... and after a moment of scrolling his page it becomes quite obvious that it's all fake ragebait material. I suggest blocking and moving on.
Yeah, I also got that impression (I don't know him, I also looked him up)
This isn't reddit.
Something similar happened several years ago with a tree stump base:
https://youtu.be/2fxGC_VM6yE
This is actually very funny tho
Parents should call the cops on this person for destruction of property.
That could very well be what happened. If an asshole like this made the effort to sue me, I’d gladly counter sue. Even if I only got them to pay my legal fees, I’d still consider it a win.
and putting yourself on record that intentionally going off the road to ram a inaminate object,so that the insurance company can say your at fault.
FAFO
Fuck Cars, and asshole dickheads in particular who get thrills running over snowmen and scaring off cyclists and pedestrians. Deserves losing his braggart machine.
Ragebait account: https://www.facebook.com/mark.majeski.39/
I've already called the police.
Call the facepolice.
of course it’s faceplace
So... Mark Majeski.. Why were you gunning for a snowman with your car in the first place?
Seems like a dick move and you got what you deserved.
No pity from me on this.. Consequences, babycakes!
"It was just to add volume."
i thought something was up. a snow man made of the fluffiest powder would absolutely totall my car. ain’t no way i would just hit snow men
I wanna see the zoom video of that court hearing. I don't think a judge is gonna be on your side, buddy.
He's beyond annoyed, might even say he's, royally pissed.
Let me guess: it was not the first time the asshole plowed a snowman there, and the kids were just smarter than the driver...
bet this guy voted for Trump
I would kind of like to give some benefit of the doubt. Maybe if the snowman was in his driveway or the road or an alleyway or something then it would be a justfied complaint, but all I can imagine in my head is him swerving through a front yard to hit a snowman and yelling "20 POINTS!!"
In any case, it's careless driving, because even a snowman built from freshly fallen snow is going to mess up your car if you hit it.
If the snowman has been out a few days, it's probably icy and would damage more.
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How exactly did this mustang hit a snowman?
What if, while the mustang was driving toward the snowman, a kid was lying in the snow making a snow angel?
What if there was a baby sitting and chilling in the snow man? Stay on the road, you dipshit, I recommend property seizure of this man and termination of driving license and perhaps an art course on snowmen and how to avoid driving over adventurous babies by staying on the fucking road and not being a piece of shit.
And $10K fine and put him on the sexual offender registration list.
That's a lot of effort....just lock him away forever. He already admited to murdering a man.
When people say it's not funny, it usually is
"So you intentionally drove off the road to hit a snowman that was, unknown to you, filled with bricks?" "Yes" "Okay, were there children present near this snowman?" "Uhhhhhhh, no" "Okay, you do see how stupid this was, right?" "Uhh no" "Okay, well your claim is denied for reckless driving, to start"
This was exactly in one old czech movie Snowboarďáci
Frosty the snowman has dead ringer
Only assholes drive white cars.
But it takes a special kind of asshole to drive a white Mustang.
This is ridiculous. White is the most common color for fleet vehicles so there are plenty of white used cars. Sometimes the color of the car is not that important. You just need a car because you live where public transportation is terrible.
Also, statistically, white cars get in fewer accidents. They’re easily visible during the day and more visible at night. And as you stated, white is a common fleet car color (maybe for this reason) and so it helps have a sense of anonymity, which some prize. There are far more white ford f150s than bright blue f150s.
Stop fighting! You're both right! I drive a white fleet car and I am an asshole.