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Which living creatures can swim and fly, but not walk?

Whenever I see this picture I think of this:

| Creature | Swims | Walks | Flies |
| -------- | ----- | ----- | ----- |
| Dog      | X     | X     |       |
| Fish     | X     |       |       |
| Bird     |       | X     | X     |
| Duck     | X     | X     | X     |

Notice how for each combination of swimming, walking and flying, there is a living creature that can do just that, with the exception of swimming and flying.

Sure there are flying fish, but they glide rather than fly. Did evolution really forget to cover this niche?

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lemmy.world

Dragonflies.

Their nymph phase is aquatic and in their adult phase they only fly. Their legs are only for grasping.

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Pretty sure I've seen dragon flies crawling along plants on land?

Yes, you are pretty sure. Glad I could answer your question.

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lemmy.world

They don't really fly though, just glide a short distance after a jump.

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jqubedreply
lemmy.world

If they actually generate lift I’d call it flying, but I don’t know if they do

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Gliding requires lift, but the forward momentum they have is mostly generated while they're still in the water as far as I know.

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tal
lemmy.today

Note that Markdown does tables:

|Creature|Swims|Walks|Flies|
|-|-|-|-|
|Dog|X|X||
|Fish|X|||
|Bird||X|X|
|Duck|X|X|X|

Yields:

CreatureSwimsWalksFlies
DogXX
FishX
BirdXX
DuckXXX
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Brickedreply
feddit.org

Thanks, but it didn't render well on my client, so I wanted to play save.

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lemmy.world

Depends on the markdown dialect, it's not a standard feature. I didn't know Lemmy supports it.

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TIL:

Loons are excellent swimmers, using their feet to propel themselves above and under water. However, since their feet are located far back on the body, loons have difficulty walking on land, though they can effectively run short distances to reach water when frightened. Thus, loons avoid coming to land, except for mating and nesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NK7t3cff30

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lemmy.world

Cormorants don't walk well... Their legs are set far back on their body for more efficient swimming.

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I think this and loons are the closest to what I've been searching for! I even found a video of a loon having to be rescued because it's unable to walk.

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udonreply
lemmy.world

Okay, but does it fly? Find me a fish that can do all three

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lemmy.world

Genus Chrysopelea, commonly referred to as flying snakes. Most snakes are perfectly fine swimmers, so I bet that Genus can swim as well.

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pythonreply
lemmy.world

huh, is it restrictive to say that you need some number of legs to be able to walk?

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In this context, one way of looking at it is just propulsion against the ground vs. through the air or through the water. By that definition snakes, or even something like snails, are walkers.

And, for what it's worth, even if you require legs there are edge cases. Is inchworming a kind of slither, or a kind of walk?

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I've always been of the opinion since fish can breathe underwater just like birds breathe above water, all fish are technically flying in their own environment.

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Brickedreply
feddit.org

Does that also mean that birds swim in the air?

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All fish fly, just not through the air.

And, uh, The Common Loon is a creature that can swim and fly, but can't walk. It's feet are too far back to be able to walk.

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ulternoreply
programming.dev

So while it needs to get out to breathe, it can still swim underwater for as long as it has breath. Nice.
However, those feet look like they can be used to walk.

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sh.itjust.works

Yes, that's true. But it's more a stumbling waddle than a walk. I looked at some videos of gannet colonies, and hardly any of the tens of thousands of birds are walking. I think like most of these diving seabirds their feet are set well back.

This is a really nice vid of a Canadian colony: https://youtu.be/g9bzWqfIu2Y

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ulternoreply
programming.dev

Considering that I am including a snake's movements in "walking" in this context, I'd say that's good enough.
Honestly though, considering 2/3 of the planet surface (and increasing) is water, one would think there would be some answer to this, but I suppose it has something to do with the physics of it...

  • There is a lot of vertical space in the oceans and it is possible for some, to escape to depths that other species cannot.
  • As compared to that, fast vertical movement in a land area will mostly include air-time, meaning gliding will give an advantage by reducing fall damage.
  • There is a sharp drop in the buoyancy from water to air, meaning that anyone wanting to move to air to escape underwater threats will require much lower body densities, which in turn make it harder to have long deep-water time and there are more resources underwater anyway

So I think that the air-time of flying-fish is optimised more than enough for such a purpose and that the birds that we see diving to get food are more from the evolutionary route of - land animals that can fly, adapting to get food from deeper into the water.

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I'm finding this discussion so interesting! It's honestly something I'd never thought of at all, but it's an excellent exercise for my brain. Gannets have evolved special protection for their brains when diving, btw. They hit the water at 60mph. I wish we'd evolved some cooler attributes than opposable thumbs and walking upright. Gills, for example. Ah well.

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bookwyr.me

Did evolution really forget to cover this niche?

IANAScientist, but maybe being a creature that can potentially fly onto land but not be able to walk once there was an evolutionary disadvantage, and was bred out.

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You're right, but apparently this is a trade-off that paid off for some of the creatures in this thread.

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