Microsoft CEO warns that we must 'do something useful' with AI or they'll lose 'social permission' to burn electricity on it
Workers should learn AI skills and companies should use it because it's a "cognitive amplifier," claims Satya Nadella.
in other words please help us, use our AI
https://www.pcgamer.com/software/ai/microsoft-ceo-warns-that-we-must-do-something-useful-with-ai-or-theyll-lose-social-permission-to-burn-electricity-on-it/Open linkView original on reddthat.com1345
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"Cognitive amplifier?" Bullshit. It demonstrably makes people who use it stupider and more prone to believing falsehoods.
I'm watching people in my industry (software development) who've bought into this crap forget how to code in real-time while they're producing the shittiest garbage I've laid eyes on as a developer. And students who are using it in school aren't learning, because ChatGPT is doing all their work - badly - for them. The smart ones are avoiding it like the blight on humanity that it is.
As evidence: How the fuck is a company as big as Microsoft letting their CEO keep making such embarassing public statements? How the fuck has he not been forced into more public speaking training by the board?
This is like the 4th "gaffe" of his since the start of the year!
You don't usually need "social permission" to do something good. Mentioning that is at best, publicly stating that you think you know what's best for society (and they don't). I think the more direct interpretation is that you're openly admitting you're doing the type of thing that you should have asked permission for, but didn't.
This is past the point of open desperation.
Love your name.
Wild guess here is the social one is the one where most countries has allowed them to do what it takes and special contract deals.
Likely not public socially. At least, I doubt that.
Last time they were crying that nobody wanted it and made the word bad. It's all kinda strategy to converse most amount of people you can. Like other users mentioned above the post of people in their org using gpt. I see this too in my org and by variety or engineers or regular folks and I face palm every time because you get responses that roughly makes sense but contextually are horrendously poor and misunderstood entirely.
Desperation probably because they invested so much money on something of a demand that doesn't even exit yet.
And they are all getting dependent and addicted to something that is currently almost "free" but the monetization of it all will soon come in force. Good luck having the money to keep paying for it or the capacity to handle all the advertisement it will soon start to push out. I guess the main strategy is manipulate people into getting experience with it with these 2 or 3 years basically being equivalent to a free trial and ensuring people will demand access to the tools from their employees which will pay from their pockets. When barely anyone is able to get their employers to pay for things like IDEs... Oh well.
We watched this exact same tactic happen with Xbox gamepass over the last 5 years. They introduced it and left in the capability to purchase the "upgrade" for $1/year. Now they are suddenly cranking it up to $30/month and people are still paying it because they feel like it's a service they "have to have".
Which is why I've dropped it myself. Not worth the price.
I'm usually too lazy when it comes to canceling things, but I canceled Game Pass right away. $30 per month is just offensive.
Agreed
Is it $30/month on top of Xbox gold or does the game pass include it?
It's included, but good lord if that's not a very high price for temporary access to a collection of bargain bin games. You could buy a full price game every other month for that money.
or 3-6 indies on sale - hell if you save up that money you can go nuts every steam/gog same, 360$ should get you around 1k$ games retail price upwards if you are a patient gamer
Edit: and you can KEEP that, not temporary
On top of that, I have personally developed some gaming habits that I don't care for at all as a direct result of gamepass.
Subscriptions are thieves of intentionality
What type of habits?
The theoretically vast availability has made me quick to abandon games that didn't deserve it. I'm having a lot of difficulty committing to even some objectively good games. I don't enjoy the bouncing around and yet I keep doing it. It feels related to FOMO.
Gold doesn’t exist anymore. Now it’s game pass core or something…the rate went up with that forced “migration”. You do get access to a few “free” games with core, but you gotta pay way more to have the full deal. I think core (which is the cheapest, baseline option) is $70/yr now? (Edit- i just checked my statement, it’s $78.50)
This recent massive price hike (it fucking doubled) is what got me to cancel my live, completely.
I've been subscribed since 2002, when it first released. So their greed lost a sure stream of income. I'm not alone.
Small sample but everyone i know dropped it on the increase to 30 bucks. One of them had been primarily playing PlayStation and xbox for the last decade but has gotten and primarily plays steam deck now.
Textbook example of enshittification.
Renting is always going to end up the same way.
I get that users think they get much value for low money, but it's always bait and switch.
Sure (statistically) nobody cares, though.
Hell, Microsoft and Apple did the same thing decades ago. Microsoft offered computer discounts to high schools and colleges, so that the students would be used to (and demand) Microsoft when they went into the business world. Apple then undercut that by offering very discounted products to elementary and junior high schools, so that the students would want Apple products in higher education and the business world.
The tactic let them write off all the discounts on their taxes, but lock in customers and raise prices on business (and eventually consumer) goods.
I just spent two days fixing multiple bugs introduced by some AI made changes, the person who submitted them, a senior developer, had no idea what the code was doing, he just prompted some words into Claude and submitted it without checking if it even worked, then it was "reviewed" and blindly approved by another coworker who, in his words, "if the AI made it, then it should be alright"
Show him the errors of his ways. People learn best by experience.
You're right, they SHOULD be fired.
Management loves that they are using AI, they will probably get promoted if anything.
It's being pushed very hard by management where I work and I'm consistently seeing the same as above. I mentioned on another thread recently that I've heard "I don't know why Claude did that" multiple times over the past few weeks.
It's infuriating.
The number of times I've been debugging something and a coworker messages "I asked ChatGPT and it said [obviously wrong thing]" makes me want to gouge my eyes out
Look for another work place as soon as you can. If not you will forever be in the position of being the cleaner of their shit and you will not gain anything by it. They will get their metrics going up and you will be known to be the slow guy because you care about fixing the code.
A scapegoat to shove that little responsibility (golden parachute) they get paid for so much on.
This is the one that really concerns me. It feels like generations of students are just going to learn to push the slop button for any and everything they have to do. Even if these bots were everything techbros claimed they are, this would still be devastating for society.
Well, one way or another it won't be too many generations. Either we figure out it's a bad idea or sooner or later things will go off the wheels enough that we won't maintain the infrastructure to support everyone using this type of "AI". Being kind of right 90% of the time is not good enough at a power plant.
Businesses have invested too much time, money and promises in AI to admit they made a mistake, now. And like all business models based on the Sunk Cost Fallacy, it's going to do a lot of damage along the way before it finally dies.
Even one or two seems like it'd be catastrophic. And if nothing's changed until they enter the workforce and start fucking shit up, I'd say that's something like 10 years of teens becoming dependent on it and losing out on critical education and development (presuming worst case - no market crash). That's a lot of damage.
I've been programming professionally for 25 years. Lately we're all getting these messages from management that don't give requirements but instead give us a heap of AI-generated code and say "just put this in." We can see where this is going: management are convincing themselves that our jobs can be reduced to copy-pasting code generated by a machine, and the next step will be to eliminate programmers and just have these clueless managers. I think AI is robbing management of skills as well as developers. They can no longer express what they want (not that they were ever great at it): we now have to reverse-engineer the requirements from their crappy AI code.
It may be time for some malicious compliance.
Don't reverse engineer anything. Do as your told and "just put this in" and deploy it. Everything will break and management will explode, but now you've demonstrated that they can't just replace you with AI.
Now explain what you've been doing (reverse engineering to figure out their requirements), but that you're not going to do that anymore. They need to either give you proper requirements so that you can write properly working code, or they give you AI slop and you're just going to "put it in" without a second thought.
You'll need your whole team on board for this to work, but what are they going to do, fire the whole team and replace them with AI? You'll have already demonstrated that that's not an option.
So in your case, not only is the LLM coding assistant not making you faster, it's actively impeding your productivity and the productivity of your stakeholders. That sucks, and I'm sorry you're having to put up with it.
I'm lucky that in my day job, we're not (yet) forced to use LLMs, and the "AI coding platform" our upper management is trying to bring on as an option is turning out to be an embarrassing boondoggle that can't even pass cybersecurity review. My hope is that the VP who signed off on it ends up shit-canned because it's such a piece of garbage.
Yes. Then I come on Lemmy and see a dedicated pack of heralds constantly professing that they do the work of 10 devs while eating bon bons and everyone that isn't using it is stupid. So annoying
God, that's so frustrating. I want to shake them and shout, "No, your code is 100% ass now, but you don't know it because it passes tests that were written by the same LLM that wrote your code! And you have barely laid eyes on it, so you're forgetting what good code even looks like!"
Demonstrably proven, too.
https://www.media.mit.edu/publications/your-brain-on-chatgpt/
I study mechatronics in Germany and I don't avoid it. I have yet to meet a single person who is avoiding it. I have made tremendous progress learning with it. But that is mostly the case because my professors refuse to give solutions for the seminars. Learning is probably the only real advantage that I have seen yet. If you don't use it for cheating or shorcuts, which is of course a huge problem. But getting answers to problems, getting to ask specific follow up questions and most of all researching and getting to the right information faster (through external links from AI) has made studying much more efficient and enjoyable for me.
I don't like the impact on society AI is having bur personally it has really helped me so far. (discounting the looming bubble crises and the market effect it is having on memory f.e.)
Yeah, it is a tool, and it has to be used correctly. It also offers a trade off when you research some topics: You gain time, but slowly lose the ability to conduct the research yourself. If I don't have time constraints I avoid AI, so I can maintain my skill of searching, categorizing, and piecing together information, which is a key skill in a fast moving industry (SW dev)
Also for learning I usually use it for follow-up questions, without a base understanding it can halicunate whatever and spoon feed it to my brain. Nothing can compete with an AI which designed to burp out the most sound phrases ever existed. Unfortunately correctness is not on par with it.
I often help my yunger sister, she wants to learn programing, and I noticed she uses extensive amount of AI. She can solve issues with the help of an AI but cannot solve it alone. At least its not Vibe coding, she uses it for sub-tasks. But I fear it hinders her learning.
I decided not to finish my college program partially because of AI like chatgpt. My last 2 semesters would have been during the pandemic with an 8 month work term before. Covid ended up canceling the work term and would give me the credit anyway. The rest of the classes would all be online and mostly multiple choice quizs. There wasn't a lot of AI scanning tech for academic submissions yet either. I felt if i continued, I'd be getting a worse product for the same price (online vs in class/lab), wont get that valuble work experience, and id be at a disadvantage if i didnt use AI in my work.
Luckily my program had a 2 year of 3 year option. The first 2 years of the 3 year is the same so i just took the 2 year cert and got out.
Wym you would be at a disadvantage? College isn't a competition. By not using AI in the learning process and submissions you might get a lower grade than others, but trust me no one fucking checks your college grades. They check if you know what you are doing.
In fact you wouldn't get a lower grade, others would have an inflated grade which then won't translate to skills and will have issues in the workforce.
It didn't sit right with me. I made the deans list each semester before that for good grades. I wanted no speculation that my grades were influenced by AI in the next semester. In a competitive job market, making the deans list consistently could absolutely stand out among other candidates. It shows respect for deadlines and the education.
This has to be a bot - no student in the history of the universe has ever said this, ever
Not a bot. Both my internship interviews commented on me making the deans list.
Was AI really that big of a thing at the time of Covid?
It was just starting out around that time, hence why it wasn't much of a concern in my earlier semesters. Plus they had better in class controls for cheating like monitoring computers and in person exams instead of online. You would have got an instant fail if you got caught using AI or plagarism on your projects.
So...he has something USELESS and he wants everybody to FIND a use for it before HE goes broke?
I'll get right on it.
Nice paraphrasing!
It‘s insane how he says „we“ not as in „we at Microsoft“ but as in „Me, I and myself as the sole representative of the world economy say: Find use cases for my utterly destructive slop machine… or else!“
Tech CEOs have all gone mad by protagonist syndrome.
Well, he is the "money man". He doesn't DO any of the work himself, he "buys" workers.
He has NO skill, NO knowledge, NO training, NO license. Just money. All you need is money.
I was expecting something much worse but to me it deels like he's saying "we, the people working on this stuff, need to find real use cases that actually justifies the expense" which is.....pretty reasonable
Not defending him or Microsoft at all here but it sounds like normal business shit, not a CEO begging users to like their product
I mean, it would be a lot more reasonable if the entire tech industry hadn't gone absolutely 100% all-in on investing billions and billions of dollars into the technology before realizing that they didn't have any use cases to justify that investment.
Oh you don't have to convince me it was a mistake, his comment just wasn't what it's being made out to be. "Find a use for it or we're fucked" is a lot different than "please use our product or we're fucked"
Idk I don't really see much of a distinction really
I dunno, there's a pretty big distinction. "Please use our shitty thing" vs "Please make our shitty thing better so people want to use it"
It's placing "blame" on the industry leaders for failing to make something useful
But HE is the industry leader.
It's not like it wasn't him that sunk every successful product they still had in the last couple of years.
"Social permission" is one term for it.
Most people don't realize this is happening until it hits their electric bills. Microslop isn't permitted to steal from us. They're just literal thieves and it takes time for the law to catch up.
Always have been.
(But now it's worse because it's the entire public, not just their competitors)
They aren't Microsoft anymore, they're full on Microslop.
One might say they‘re Macroslop.
you will enjoy your chatbot that confidently tells lies while electricity bill goes up by 50% and the nearby datacentres try to make the next model not use em-dashes
As a long-time user of the em-dash I'm pissed off that my usual writing style now makes people think I used AI. I have to second-guess my own punctuation and paraphrase.
We suffer together! At least my semicolon is still safe.
I don't use LLMs for anything creative for the express purpose of avoiding generic tone, haha.
Yeah. I just wouldn't feel comfortable putting my name to a slice of that dreary blandness.
How can you lose social permission that you never had in the first place?
The peasants might light their torches
Datacenters are expensive and soft targets.
Dude, building are pretty hard.
not OP but I believe they're "soft" in the sense that they don't have moats/high electric fences/battalions of armed guards around 24/7
With a clipboard you could probably just walk in and start unplugging things
That's... Not quite true. Usually they take access quite seriously. If in a multi tenant space every space will be separated and the physical cages around the machines locked and monitored.
All the same they are designed to keep small numbers of mostly law abiding people out, not an angry mob with torches.
Agree. I live in Winnipeg, Canada, and I have visited local datacentres - anything built in the last twenty years would be very hard to physically penetrate with stealth alone.
There are older ones which might be a bit less sophisticated, but that's not the norm.
Challenge accepted
Yeah but it's really easy to hurt their feelings so be mindful
This guy knows how to translate billionaire dipshit speak.
"Torching" the gas turbines what are on AI companies datacenters would be highly effective. Especially since they are outside and only a fence protects them.
It is so dump what they gas our environment for "AI". It was evil doing it in WW1 and WW2 and it is still today. See:
It is insane.
There's a latency between asking for forgiveness and being demanded to stop.
It's easier to beg for social forgiveness than it is to ask for social permission
The whole point of "AI" is to take humans OUT of the equation, so the rich don't have to employ us and pay us. Why would we want to be a part of THAT?
AI data centers are also sucking up all the high quality GDDR5 ram on the market, making everything that relies on that ram ridiculously expensive. I can't wait for this fad to be over.
Not to mention the water depletion and electricity costs that the people who live near AI data centers have to deal with, because tech companies can't be expected to be responsible for their own usage.
I mean, do you really think it's better idea to let them build their own water and power system separate?
They should be forced to upgrade the existing infrastructure so everyone benefits.
They should be forced to upgrade existing infrastructure and pay for it. They are refusing to pay for it, and the electric companies are passing the costs onto the residents near these data centers, which is grossly unfair.
They should be forced to build closed loop systems and green energy sources.
I'd love to take humans out of the equation of all work possible. The problem is how the fascist rulers will treat the now unemployed population.
Yep. Ideal future is robots do all the work for us while we enjoy life.
But realistic future is rich people enjoy life while normal people starve.
Don't forget the few "lucky" people doing the most disagreeable of jobs because they're still hard to automate and the starving population provides a cheap desperate pool of labour to do even the most dangerous and unhealthy jobs for a pittance.
The rich seem to be common evil denominator. It is time to act against them. Worldwide.
I have to agree, even if i have no issue with GenAI itself. No one needs that many datacenters as they are planning. Adoption will crash as soon as they try monetizing it for real. Even if they try using cloud gaming as a load in those centers - not one person i know would trade their local PC for something that's dependent on a fast internet connection without data caps and introduces permanent 100ms+ delay on all games.
I swapped my 3070Ti 8GB to a 5070 16GB, if i sell off the 3070TI the upgrade cost me 300€ (but i tend to keep it as a backup), and I can run my local GenAI and LLM without issues now, I don't need datacenters, i need CDNs so i can get my content i run locally. and TBH if they really try to kill local compute in gaming: i have enough games here to last me for a decade or more without getting bored, and i can play all of that while sitting in a mountain cabin.
To point out they already tried this for gamers specifically with GeForce now, stadia, etc and its not exactly a cash cow. Not sure why they think a whole pc is preferable.
I mean, this is literally an argument against using oxen to plough fields instead of doing it by hand.
The answer is always that society should reorient around not needing constant labour and wealth being redistributed.
The five stages of corporate grief:
Where do the three envelopes fit in
Roll 2d6 on private equity sale. 7 or higher and you get to ride again with an IPO at position 6. 1-6 and you get to fill out the envelopes.
In my pocket
Denial: "AI will be huge and change everything!"
Anger: "noooo stop calling it slop its gonna be great!"
Bargaining: "please use AI, we spent do much money on it!"
Depression: companies losing money and dying (hopefully)
Acceptance: everyone gives up on it (hopefully)
Acceptance: It will be reduced to what it does well and priced high enough so it doesn't compete with equivalent human output. Tons of useless hardware will flood the market, china will buy it back and make cheap video cards from the used memory.
Which seems like good progress. I feel like they were in denial not three weeks ago.
May the depression be long lasting and heartfelt in the United States of AI.
Correct, but needs clarification:
Depression referring to the whole economy as the bubble burst.
Acceptance is when the government accepts to bail them out because they're too big and the gov is too dependent on them to let them die.
"Microsoft thinks it has social permission to burn the planet for profit" is all I'm hearing.
Well, they at least have investor permission...which is the only people they care about anyway
Probably in the Hobbes sense that they're not actively revolting
I don't think there's a single data center anywhere that a significant amount of locals are even ambilivient a out, let alone support...
In pretty much every place, they're getting massive tax breaks citizens pay for, and cheaper energy prices because citizens will pay the higher cost due to increased demand of the data center.
We need to seize all this shit from corps.
Stop fucking around, once trump is handled we need to nationalize a whole lot of shit that's been privatized the last 50 years.
I've also read reports that the noise levels and pollution coming out of these things is staggering. Not to mention they appear to be built as quickly as possible with little regard for laws and regulations.
Fucks the water up too.
People that live too close turn their taps open and can get barely a trickle, sometimes literally nothing.
Because the data centers are sucking up potable water for cooling because it's cheaper to run it wild open no matter what than paying for a sustainable cooling system up front.
That's mainly Grok, since Elon did never even bother getting approval for the shitton of Gas Turbines he placed which wreak havoc on the air quality in Memphis. I think xAI is the only Datacenter running on 100% fossil fuels, without permission from any municipality..
Interesting! I was under the impression all data centers were causing similar problems, but leave it to the X Man to go the extra mile to really fuck things up. That piece of shit has unlimited money and still pulls shit like this.
Just to add to what you said, it appears Musk is in violation of EPA standards and they may be doing something about it: https://www.techspot.com/news/110971-epa-shuts-down-xai-off-grid-turbine-loophole.html
Data centers should be demolished by act of a real leader if we ever get one. They got this data by corrupt means perverting our laws and regulators. They deserve to lose their entire investments, that information is a threat to society and we should not allow tech lords to control it.
Fuck that, repurpose them. Even if you just break down the tech components and use the buildings for something unrelated.
Yes, nationalization involves the seizing of resources...
I'm just saying there's no reason to destroy anything
High Performance Compute for medical research to go with the free healthcare we should also have in this scenario.
That information is a danger in the hands of government. Burn the motherfuckers down. There is no legitimate need for that much computing power, all devoted to enslaving us.
The files are inside the computer?!?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2uHBhKTSe0
You can't even exfiltrate data reliably from a LLM - storage can be deleted, RAM is volatile anyways. No need for destruction at all, the compute itself is useful. There are so many science projects that currently don't have the funding to get access to exactly the hardware that's in use there.
techbros don't understand consent
As opposed to legal permission, which, hahahahaha
In English: "they're talking about guillotines a lot"
Translation: Microslop's executives are finally starting to realize that they fucked up.
Let's just say AI truly is a world-changing thing.
Has there ever been another world-changing thing where the sellers of that thing had to beg people to use it?
The applications of radio were immediately obvious, everybody wanted access to radios. Smart phones and iPods were just so obviously good that people bought them as soon as they could afford them. Nobody built hundreds of km of railroads then begged people to use them. It was hard to build the railways fast enough to keep up with demand.
Sure, there have been technologies where the benefit wasn't immediately obvious. Lasers, for example, were a cool thing that you could do with physics for a while. But, nobody was out there banging on doors, begging people to find a use for lasers. They just sat around while people fiddled with them, until eventually a use was found for them.
Literally burning the planet with power demand from data centers but not even knowing what it could possibly be good for?
That's eco-terrorism for lack of a better word.
Fuck you.
Social permission? I dont remember that we had a vote or something on this bullshit.
The oligarch class is again showing why we need to upset their cart.
As far as I can tell there hasn't been any tangible reward in terms of pay increase, promotion or external recruitment from using the cognitive amplifier.
you never had it to begin with. Goddamn leeches.
Has anyone in the last 15 years willingly learned excel? It seems like one of those things you have to learn on the job as your boomer managers insist on using it.
I did and it's awesome. People like to shit on Excel, but there is a reason why every business on earth runs on Excel. It's a great tool and if you really learn it, you can do great things with it.
It's just a generic table / matrix thing mostly. Turns out tables are a good way to lay out a bunch of different information.
Somehow nobody has made a similar generic application to allow you to work with nested list, outline, or tree style structures, which I think are equally if not more useful structures to lay out certain types of information.
Hi, occasional spreadsheet user here who cannot tell the difference between Excel and, say, LibreOffice Calc (which is what I use, disclosed). Why is Excel specifically better? No troll.
Funny thing about "AI skills" that I've noticed so far is that they are actually just skills in the thing you're trying to get AI to help with. If you're good at that, you can often (though not always) get an effective result. Mostly because you can talk about it at a deeper level and catch mistakes the AI makes.
If you have no idea about the thing, it might look competent to you, but you just won't be catching the mistakes.
In that context, I would call them thought amplifiers and pretty effective at the whole "talking about something can help debug the problem, even if the other person doesn't contribute anything of value because you have to look at the problem differently to explain it and that different perspective might make the solution more visible", while also being able to contribute some valueable pieces.
Holy crap, I think you've cracked it.
LLM AI is the trillion collar costing, terawatt consuming rubber ducky for the new millennium!
You forgot water stealing and methane spewing
Excel depends on the usage. Way too many people want to use it for what it's bad at, but technically can do, instead of using it for what it's good at.
I'm fairly decent at using Excel, and have automated some database dependent tasks for my coworkers through it, which saves us a lot of time doing menial tasks no one actually wants to do.
I willingly learned excel in the past 15 years!
I have since moved on to open source replacements.
I love excel, personally. I'm a big ol' nerd and love putting shit in a spreadsheet.
how else are you going to perform, document, and communicate engineering calculations in a format that is simple, intuitive, flexible, and easy to iterate upon?
Yeah, very good analogy actually...
I remember back in the day people putting stuff like 'Microsoft Word' under 'skills'. Instead of thinking 'oh good, they will be able to use Word competently', the impression was 'my god, they think Word is a skill worth bragging about, I'm inclined to believe they have no useful skills'.
'Excel skills' on a resume is just so vague, people put it down when they just figured out they can click and put things into a table, some people will be able to quickly roll some complicated formula, which is at least more of a skill (I'd rather program a normal way than try to wrangle some of the abominations I've seen in excel sheets).
Using an LLM is not a skill with a significant acquisition cost. To the extent that it does or does not work, it doesn't really need learning. If anything people who overthink the 'skill' of writing a prompt just end up with stupid superstitions that don't work, and when they first find out that it doesn't work, they just grow new prompt superstitions to add to it to 'fix' the problem.
Skill in Excel is wholly different than skills in other Office products. But if Excel is on your resume, your better expand and show what real use you've made of it. Otherwise it comes off just as you said.
That's the way I also think about learning fancy spreadsheet stuff. Spreadsheets are good for putting data into a graph. They're good for basic numeric stuff where there's a simple pattern that repeats. But, pretty soon you're in a situation where you should either have a real database or a real program. If you're doing a lot of manipulation of data, you should have a program with loops, conditionals, errors, exceptions, etc. and most importantly with comments. If you're storing a lot of data, you should be using a real database, not hundreds of lines in a spreadsheet.
If, at the end, you do want something visual, and don't feel like dealing with a graphics library, you can always export the data to a CSV and import that into a spreadsheet.
Way back in the day a bunch of people endorsed me on linkedin for a bunch of nonsense like that and I manually hid all of it lol
How about we get "Universal Basic Income", to respect all the unpaid work?
That'd make my choice of not using Excel (at the expense of risking not getting work) more worthwhile.
... And surviving genocide when welfare was stripped away, fraudulently re-labelling as "fit to work", killing over 130,000 disabled people in Britain from 2010 to 2019, a more worthwhile struggle too.
Otherwise, it seems even if AI does not take jobs, most work done with AI will be unpaid.
I've willingly learned Calc (LibreOffice's open-source spreadsheet tool) because I've made spreadsheets for my own needs. But to "become employable"? No way.
I do. Got a free license from my last job and Excel blows the doors off Calc, or anything else. For business, Excel is moat of the reason they're so tied into Office.
I did take a few courses on excel over the last 25 years. I don't use excel that much but most features will never be used by most people.
Take away:
I have a nagging feeling the general public does not hate Microsoft as much as computer nerds do and so probably overall their image is muddled to not that bad overall.
I believe Windows 11 and "AI everywhere" are quickly changing that. Gamers started migrating, but I believe the stats showing a growing usage of Linux on desktop as well as resistance to the Win11 migration go beyond the gamers.
But I admit: a survey right now may not yet show it. It's probably trending up slowly.
Then you think wrong. The average consumer doesn't care about the things computer nerds care about. Even privacy (a human right) gets arguments like "I have nothing to hide"
Otherwise they would have mass adopted the fediverse a long time ago.
The average consumer doesn’t care because they already made the purchase. Most of them use whatever OS their machine comes preloaded with unless a more tech inclined friend offers alternatives.
The OEMs do the caring, because the OEMs are the ones with the choice. And they notice this shit. So when the average consumer is buying a new machine, they might be offered alternatives to Windows (already happening with some btw), and most customers will see an extra $200 (or whatever how much nowadays) next to the Windows license, and a flat $0 next to the other option: Linux.
Now the filter is reversed, and only the ones who aren’t paying attention (assuming Windows is the default during check out) or actively want Windows will be paying for it
The savvier ones may even wonder what the difference is, and do some research to understand it, and those ones will buy it knowing exactly what they’re getting into. Some will say “I’ll just pick the free OS and install Windows for free”, but even if they decide that, they may decide to boot it up first out of curiosity.
And that’s what really matters: the exposure. Because people talk.
Just make copilot it's own program that is uninstallable, remove it from everywhere else in the OS, and let it be. People who want it will use it, people who don't want it won't. Nobody would be pissed at Microsoft over AI if that is what they had done from the start.
I hope all parties responsible for this garbage, including Microsoft will pay a huge price in the end. Fuck all these morons.
Stop shilling for these corporate assholes or you will own nothing and will be forced to be happy.
You already don't have social permission to do what you are doing, and that hasn't stopped you. The world is bigger than the 10 people around your board's table.
I will try to have a balanced take here:
The positives:
The negatives
Overall I wish the AI bubble burst already
This is one of the cases where AI is worse. LLMs will generate the tests based on how the code works and not how it is supposed to work. Granted lots of mediocre engineers also use the "freeze the results" method for meaningless test coverage, but at least human beings have ability to reflect on what the hell they are doing at some point.
I think machine learning has a vast potential in this area, specifically things like running iterative tests in a laboratory, or parsing very large data sets. But a fuckin LLM is not the solution. It makes a nice translation layer, so I don't need to speak and understand bleep bloop and can tell it what I want in plain language. But after that LLM seems useless to me outside of fancy search uses. It's should be the initial processing layer to figure out what type of actual AI (ML) to utilize to accomplish the task. I just want an automator that I can direct in plain language, why is that not what's happening? I know that I don't know enough to have an opinion but I do anyway!
I'd be interested what you mean by this? Isn't all unit tests just freezing the result? A method is an algorithm for certain inputs you expect certain outputs, you unit tests these inputs and matching outputs, and add coverage for edge cases because it's cheap to do with unit tests and these "freeze the results" or rather lock them in so you know that piece of code always works as expected or it's "frozen/locked in"
It is pretty common to write unit tests for functionality that doesn't exist (test driven development). It gets you to think about, and test, everything that needs to exist in the program before writing the program. This approach doesn't always work, particularly in large code bases where you need to learn the structure of a module before you can even think about design.
'Freezing the results' is ok too, as long as you know the results are currently correct. The AI has no way of knowing this and poor programmers often don't verify either.
It is very easy to write a shit test.
Oh yeah for sure, I have seen tests that are pretty useless, for me the way I do it is I write the first one or two tests then instruct copilot to follow the patterns and then it does well, ofc I have to double check it, but reading is easier than having to write it.
You could have it write unit tests as black box tests, where you only give it access to the function signature. Though even then, it still needs to understand what the test results should be, which will vary from case to case.
You can tell it to generate based on how it's supposed to work you know
They f'd up with electricity rates and hardware price hikes. They were getting away with it by not inconveniencing enough laymen.
Very few laymen have noticed or give a shit about RAM prices. My young friend across the street and I are likely the only people on the block who know what RAM does, let alone are able to build a PC.
Business purchasing is where we might see some backlash soon. I've bought all the IT goods, hardware and software, for my last two companies, and I'd be screaming.
Boss: What the hell? Weren't we getting these laptops for $1,200 last year?!
Consumers notice when their electronics double in price. The news will tell them it's becaus of AI
So I’m the literal author of the Philosophy of Balance, and I don’t see any reason why LLMs are deserving of a balanced take.
This is how the Philosophy of Balance works: We should strive…
But here’s the thing: LLMs and the technocratic elite funding them are a net negative to humanity and the world at large. Therefore, to strive for a balanced approach towards AI puts you on the wrong side of the battle for humanity, and therefore human history.
Pick a side.
You are presupposing that your opinion about LLMs is absolutely correct and then of course you arrive at your predetermined conclusion.
What about the free LLmodels available out of china and other places that democratizes the LLMs?
Thanks for not being dramatic, lol.
Your comment is fair. I try to follow my own philosophy, so I picked a side and stand for it. I feel strongly about it, so that’s why I may use hyperbole at times.
Yet I understand it’s not everybody’s opinion, so I try to respect those people even when I don’t necessarily respect their positions. It’s a tough line to draw sometimes.
Could not have written my exact take as closely as yours.
Only thing I'd add is using it to screw around with personal photos. ChatGPT is cleaning up some 80s pics of my wife that were atrocious. I have rudimentary PhotoShop skills, but we'd never have these clean pics without AI. OTOH, I'd gladly drop that ability to reclaim all the negatives.
I agree with this point so much. I'm probably a real thicko, and being able to use it to explain concepts in a different way or provide analogies has been so helpful for my learning.
I hate the impact from use of AI, and I hope that we will see greater efficiencies in the near future so there is less resource consumption.
Fuck this loser. We have enough issues to deal with on a daily basis. We don't need to subsidize your fear of having wasted ungodly amounts of money and becoming irrelevant.
That's a YOU problem, fool.
Best use for AI is CEO replacement
The problem with this is the savings will go to share holders not workers.
I believe that is called a co-op
The savings will also lead to the corporation's profits to decline in the mid term, and then the savings will actually go to private equity and hedge funds, not the shareholders.
One small step to the actual solution of "have all the employees vote a CEO every 4 years."
Textbook definition of a solution searching for a problem.
Blockchain, NFTs, degenerative AI. I think I see a pattern here.
Delusional, created a solution to a problem that doesn't exist to usurp the power away from citizens and concentrate it in the minority.
This is the opposite of the information revolution. This is the information capture. It will be sold back to the people it was taken from while being distorted by special interests.
"bend the productivity curve" is such a beautiful way to say that they are running out of ideas on how to sell that damn thing.
It basically went from :
... to "bend the productivity curve". It's not how it "radically increase productivity" no it's a lot more subtle than that, to the point that it can actually bend that curve down. What a shit show.
Avoid spending trillions on a product nobody wants to pay for.
I already had enough reasons not to bother using it, he didn't need to give me another one!
Dude, you never had "social permission" to do this in the first place, none of us asked for this shit. You're literally destroying the planet, the economy and our future for your personal gain.
You useless waste of space.
AI isn't at all reliable.
Worse, it has a uniform distribution of failures in the domain of seriousness of consequences - i.e. it's just as likely to make small mistakes with miniscule consequences as major mistakes with deadly consequences - which is worse than even the most junior of professionals.
(This is why, for example, an LLM can advise a person with suicidal ideas to kill themselves)
Then on top of this, it will simply not learn: if it makes a major deadly mistake today and you try to correct it, it's just as likely to make a major deadly mistake tomorrow as it would be if you didn't try to correct it. Even if you have access to actually adjust the model itself, correcting one kind of mistake just moves the problem around and is akin to trying to stop the tide on a beach with a sand wall - the only way to succeed is to have a sand wall for the whole beach, by which point it's in practice not a beach anymore.
You can compensate for this by having human oversight on the AI, but at that point you're just back to having to pay humans for the work being done, so now instead of having to the cost of a human to do the work, you have the cost of the AI to do the work + the cost of the human to check the work of the AI and the human has to check the entirety of the work just to make sure since problems can pop-up anywere, take and form and, worse, unlike a human the AI work is not consistent so errors are unpredictable, plus the AI will never improve and it will never include the kinds of improvements that humans doing the same work will over time discover in order to make later work or other elements of the work be easier to do (i.e. how increase experience means you learn to do little things to make your work and even the work of others easier).
This seriously limits the use of AI to things were the consequences of failure can never be very bad (and if you also include businesses, "not very bad" includes things like "not significantly damage client relations" which is much broader than merely "not be life threathening", which is why, for example, Lawyers using AI to produce legal documents are getting into trouble as the AI quotes made up precedents), so mostly entertainment and situations were the AI alerts humans for a potential situation found within a massive dataset and if the AI fails to spot it, it's alright and if the AI incorrectly spots something that isn't there the subsequent human validation can dismiss it as a false positive (so for example, face recognition in video streams for the purpose of general surveillance, were humans watching those video streams are just or more likely to miss it and an AI alert just results in a human checking it, or scientific research were one tries to find unknown relations in massive datasets)
So AI is a nice new technological tool in a big toolbox, not a technological and business revolution justifying the stock market valuations around it, investment money sunk into it or the huge amount of resources (such as electricity) used by it.
Specifically for Microsoft, there doesn't really seem to be any area were MS' core business value for customers gains from adding AI, in which case this "AI everywhere" strategy in Microsoft is an incredibly shit business choice that just burns money and damages brand value.
I work in AI and the only obvious profit is the ability to fire workers. Which they need to rehire after some months, but lowering wages. It is indeed a powerful tool, but tools are not driving profits. They are a cost. Unless you run a disinformation botnet, scamming websites, or porn. It is too unpredictable to really automatize software creation ( fuzzy is the term, we somehow mitigate with stochastic approach ). Probably movie industry is also cutting costs, but not sure.
AI is the way capital is trying to acquire skills cutting off the skilled.
Have to say though that having an interfacd that understands natural language opens so many possibilities. Which could really democratize access to tech, but they are so niche that they would never really drive profit.
Eeh didn't you pay attention in economy 101? If you generate more supply than demand that's a you problem. The free market will take care.
"A great commander secures his victory before entering into battle. A poor commander first rushes into battle, then searches for victory."
~Sun Tzu, The Art of War
AI can absolutely be useful. But it’s been wildly oversold and the actual beneficial use cases are not nearly as profitable as the marketing around it
AI is the new 3dTV
It's way worse than 3Dtv.
Yes, 3d tv was pushed too soon. If they waited for the glassless technology (like the 3ds screen for example) I think we would have 3d screen everywhere. Now the tech is dead because people had a really bad perception of 3d tv.
The 3DS screen kinda sucked though. It only worked well when your eyes were inside a very tight cone straight in front of the screen. Move your head just a little bit and the image went to shit. And even when it did work, it looked more cool than good, if that makes sense. That narrow fov thing is an inherent limitation of the technology that can hardly be worked around, and it makes it practically useless for TVs. Multiple people can't view that screen because you can't expect everyone to be in the vision cone at once. You can't even properly view it alone because you won't be staying inside that narrow vision cone the whole time you'll be sitting on your couch watching Avatar.
I never saw mine as anything more than a cool gimmick, and kept its 3D-ness turned off 95% of the time. There's a reason Nintendo didn't pursue it further.
The technology didn't stop with the 3ds screen though, Samsung has the Odyssey 3d line which is starting to get nice but has still a lot of shortcomings because you can count on one hand the games that are really well optimized with it. But yeah, it's kind of a gimmick in a lot of case in gaming but for tv and movies I still think the technology has potential once we get brighter screens (as glassless 3d eat a lot of it)
Hey, I like my 3D TV. Every once in a while I manage to find a pirated video that's in 3D and it's pretty neat. And unlike the current avalanche of generative/LLM bullshit, I can turn the 3D off, and when I do it works just fine as a perfectly ordinary TV, and in no way does it nag me incessantly to turn it back on.
Hey, don't be mean to 3DTV. At least there's an actual use case for it. Watching 3D TV or movies, which aren't actually that popular... Hmmm, I see your point but also counter with the 3D TVs are at least also regular TVs
That's not how technology is supposed to work.
Isn't there plenty of research it's the opposite of a cognitive amplifier, people get cognitively lazy using ai.
I got deepseek to run short roleplaying adventures that are surprisingly fun and engaging. It's an amped up choose your own adventur, so for this application, the future is bright.
Not a single other llm can do this in any way approaching acceptable.
And it still lies and makes shit up, but in a fantasy world, the can let it pass unless it is trying to rob me of experience lol.
When it can do long sessions and entire careers instead of detailed one offs it'll have found its niche for me. Right now, it's just a fun toy, prone to hallucinations.
I can't believe people use these things for code...
That's the thing though - with an LLM, it's all "hallucinations". They're just usually close to reality, and are presented with an authoritative, friendly voice.
(Or, in your case, they're usually close to the established game reality!)
This is the thing I hope people learn about LLMs, it's all hallucinations.
When an LLM has excellent data from multiple sources to answer your question, it is likely to give a correct answer. But, that answer is still a hallucination. It's dreaming up a sequence of words that is likely to follow the previous words. It's more likely go give an "incorrect" hallucination when the data is contradictory or vague. But, the process is identical. It's just trying to dream up a likely series of words.
Before the tech industry set its sights on AI, "hallucination" was called error rate.
It's the rate at which the model incorrectly labelled outputs. But of course the tech industry being what it is needs to come up with alternative words that spin doctor bad things into not bad things. So what the field of AI for decades had been calling error rate, everyone now calls "hallucinations". Error has far worse optics than hallucination. Nobody would be buying this LLM garbage if every article posted about it included paragraphs about how its full of errors.
That's the thing people need to learn.
I can also see a lot of use in general for gaming! There might be a future where game assets are generated on the fly, dialogue and storylines are without artificial limits, no invisible borders in game worlds. The technology is useful, but not in the way those fools want to force it.
Yes, images where not every pixel is important. NPC-s going about their business. The traffic. The weather. Games will use it, I'm sure of it.
Fair, but compare that to the fun of an actual in-person TTRPG. It's the main way I make new friends as an adult man.
can't keep what you never had you corrupt piece of shit.
Well you already lost that or rather never actually had that. You all pushed a broken and incomplete product you need to find a use not us...
I hereby revoke my permission.
Honestly, this is the most reasonable take I have heard from tech bros on ai so far... Use it for something useful and stop using it for garbage!
Ai has a million great uses that could make so many things so much easier, but instead we are building AI to undress women on twitter
To be honest, I did tried a couple of AI's. But all I got where solutions that would never work on the stated hardware. Code full of errors and when fixed never functions as requested. On any non-technical questions it's always agreeing and hardly (not at all actually) challenging any input you give it. So yeah, i'm done with it and waiting for the bubble to burst.
What do you mean, that using ChatGPT for a recipe for eggs, sunny side up without any seasoning or toppings and burning up the electricity of a moderate household for a week with my query isn’t useful?
It's not the query that burns through electricity like crazy, it's training the models.
You can run a query yourself at home with a desktop computer, as long as it has enough RAM and compute cells to support the model you're using (think a few high-end GPUs).
Training a model requires a huge pile of computer power though, and the AI companies are constantly scraping the internet to
stealfind more training materialDunno if that's true or not. Generally, much more compute is used in inference than training, since you only train once, then use that model for millions of queries or whatever. However, some of these AI companies may be training many models constantly to one-up each-other and pump their stock; dunno. The "thinking" model paradigm is also transferring a lot more compute to inference. IIRC OpenAI spent $300k of compute just for inference to complete a single benchmark a few months ago (and found that, like training, exponentially increasing amounts of compute are needed for small gains in performance).
Allrecipes has you covered.
No. No, it really doesn't.
I want a vegan recipe that uses turbinado sugar. I get 3 articles and only one of them is a recipe. If I don't like that recipe...too bad. That's what they have.
The number of adults I know who ask ChatGPT for recipes is non-zero.
Teenagers use it like it's a search engine. They don't understand the difference.
They don’t have that permission
We need an American Zelenskyy who would save us from the oligarchs.
Citizen developers of the world, disband!!
Buddy, I hope you will lose social permission to keep your head attached to your body. All your heads on spikes, is what I dream of.
Its a admission that it isn't doing anything useful.
"Microsoft CEO begs for us to use the software that he's been shoving down our throats for the last 10 years or so or else his corporation will lose money"
I appreciate the social permission for so many folks to switch to Linux. KDE has come a long way.
My sole use for AI has been troubleshooting computer issues. I will say that AI often does a better job than first line tech support when prompted correctly. That being said, I am a tech nerd who knows more than the average computer user that is not in the IT industry. There will always be a reason for human tech support tiers for people who cannot prompt AI correctly, but still need their stuff to work. I personally don't want AI invading my life any further.
That's exactly the reason why you get good results when prompting a chatbot. You have the knowledge to ask the right questions with the needed keywords and lingo. What's problematic is that Microslop and big tech in general are advertising AI as a generic tool for everyone and their grandmother. The result is garbage in, garbage out. It's not going to work as advertised.
heres something useful, REMOVE AI from all your products, and undo windows10/11 changes.
Brother, AI has proven multiple times to make you stupider. It's not a cognitive amplifier.
Isn't it alleged that China goes for specific use cases and not general intelligence?
Maybe that's the way to go and not the gamble that the US and western companies are doing.
when they asked permissions?
He has my permission to stop.
He could set an example by replacing himself with AI
Play with algorithms and datasets if you want, but make it efficient. We don't need thousands of data centers guzzling water and electricity and disturbing the peace just to generate wrong answers and slop. Work on the algorithms, don't just scale up the slop.
Microsoft angle is that they can run their AI on your documents and files (it’s all on OneDrive now remember?) and “know” about you and the world as a whole collectively at all times. The panopticon wet dream of advertisers and governments alike. Plus hardware will be too expensive for plebs and we’ll all have scaled back dumb terminal tablets that connect to Microsoft Azure Copilot Windows for $49.99/month
What does Capitalism™ say about "innovations" that can't deliver results? Filtering out crap that only works on some bullshit paper is the one thing capitalism is supposed to be good at.
Capitalism says that the market won't reward people making those things, and the companies might fail as a result.
But, we're no longer in a capitalist world. We're in a corporatist world where it's closer to technolfeudalism where it doesn't really matter how bad your idea is, because you aren't out to make a profit, instead you're out to extract rent.
-This jackass, essentially.
"We have to find a compelling use case so we can keep tragedying the commons!"
I see...
Fuck you.
Must do something useful? You're the one selling the damn thing. You can't build a Pinto and then tell people "we have to stop burning to death or we'll lose permission to keep production faulty cars."
There is something inherently wrong with your product, and you can't even fix it because you're too busy shoving it down everyone's throats.
It's like you're trying to bake cookies using pieces of every plagiarized baking recipe, whether or not they're related. Then, before you've actually tasted the cookies, you're telling everyone to reach into the oven and try using this "basic" cookie to modify and make their own cookies.
Except the cookies haven't even baked yet. And before you've ever tasted a single fully baked cookie, you're announcing modifications to your cookie dough recipe based on feedback from your previously undercooked, improperly made cookies.
Go back to small scale. Let people bake their own cookies at home, and report what they've discovered. Try upscaling those recipes, and see if you can make any parts more efficient.
And quit telling people to eat your tainted cookies that are poisoning everyone, and then telling them that if they don't start enjoying your cookies soon, then you're gonna have to shut down your factory.
Your cookie/Pinto/AI venture deserves to be shut down. Take the L, learn from it, and try again after you figure out how to get it right. Bake a better cookie instead of trying to make better consumers.
They have nothing consumers want.
I know something useful that can be done with AI in its current form. Toss it in the fucking garbage maybe.
Did they ever have social permission in the first place?
It would be more useful to replace CEOs with AI. Or maybe even my dog.
It's like Facebook's squandering tens of billions of dollars on the Metaverse even though nobody asked for it or wants it. Ultimately they had to give up on it, and the same thing will happen here.
"But we're rendering naked children as fast as we can"
CEOs aren't people. That's why they lobbied to have companies recognized as people. Stop giving them a stage.
Just investing in better tech instead of stacking GPUs might suffice too
Yeah, cause its totally not end-stage capitalism to invest a trillion dollars into something and THEN figure out what its for.
So you admit it. You admit AI isn't useful.
Skynet or China wins is the goal. It's useful to US empire to do Palantir surveilllance for "Patriotic subservience to Israel first agenda". Robocops instead of ICE officers provides useful increase in bravery to apply fascism. We must race China in robots, without any manufacturing aptitude, or power capacity, with only extortionist oligarch power expansion options, under an oligarchist, corporatist, zionist supremacist fascism to concentrate oligarchy and fascism further, so as to force China to keep up and "everyone" (important) makes money playing the game of winning is which side gets destroyed more.
So, as long as we view US empire as useful, Skynet is very useful. We can pretend that some other apps will be useful (Nadela is saying "just buy a PC and learn excel to be useful" as main point), but all of big tech is courting US government for big datacenter use, and political unanimity for war on China, means there is no other "useful" application required.
The most important social permission for AI, is the permission to fund Skynet, and the permission for warmongering military budget and attitude. An Israel/Oligarchist first rulership means there is never any money for any other purpose than that supremacism. The destination of collapse is a consequence only for the little people. Wealth "creation" (pillaging) in the journey, and escape from consequences of collapse.
Ah. Is THAT why they're trying to shove it into everything.
The only thing I use AI for right now is spouting nonsense at it for a joke. For example I would ask 'why didn't (insert well known figure here) buy me lunch?' Or 'I farted and they cleared out a 10 block radius and called in a chemical weapons cleanup crew, is this normal?'
Shit like that.
You don't have permission 🤷♀️
You should... ASK PEOPLE BEFORE ? 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️
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LOL
Quick! Jam it into toasters! Put LLMs into keyboards so they rewrite everything inputted! AI-powered screwdrivers!
For the vast majority of use-cases we've been presented with, the most useful thing you can do with AI is abandon it.
No
Funny seeing this post during a big Microsoft outage lmao
I have a use for it. Put it in the recycle bin.
I bough a second hand laptop with windows 11 and it had Copilot pushing down my throat.
It's now running Fedora just fine. And if I want I can spin up a local AI when I decide that I need it.
Maybe we could start making more slop memes, to outbalance the possible usefulness of AI ?
Maybe they should look into selling AI CP since it seems to be great at generating that shit
The only thing I use AI for is a fancy choose your own adventure book.
Do they do different dialogue styles well? I could see using it for NPC chatter
Yeah there are plenty of sites that have pretrained characters chatbots, or you can instruct a generic LLM to talk like someone.
But that doesn't fix the problems of companies abusing resources to create and run these systems.
How about we train them on killing billionaires?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsE0BwQ3l8U&t=1492s
The great cycle of AI hype
"Mommy and daddy gubberment pls help, the CONSUMERS hate my product."
I'm all for an AI tax to offset the jobs replaced, with that tax going towards providing a universal basic income to those displaced workers, for life. Maybe then AI will actually be useful for something.
Lose? He means 'never regain' right?
You can tell how useful AI by how much billionaire are investing in text, audio and video slop generation.
Isn't there now some social media app that only consists of generated ai slop videos?
You'd think their focus should be a little different...
I am for AI but decentralized and owned by the people. Not monopolized and owned by the 1%
This. Except also for all the things.
The only thing it produces is heat
Its funny because this is an admission that hes not actually done anything interesting which is a complete pivot from the last two years of him screaming about how good AI is for the last 2 years.
Oh no.
It's declaration of moral bancruptcy.
Dear CEOs. I have revoked my permission. In fact it was never given.
So the bubble's finally going to burst, then?
Cute..like they need permission for anything.
such high quality slop. who gave permission? shut it down
I'll buy it for 1 dollar.
Yeah, I'm already there.
Buy my snake oil. It's a cognitive amplifier. I just need several neighborhoods worth of electricity to make a bottle. Better find a use for this oil, otherwise I'll get lynched!
You already have.
AI isn't worth it.
Hey Nafella, why Don't you go outside and play hide and go fuck yourself. We're getting a huge cold snap tonight so it's the perfect time for you to go blast hot air someplace useful.
I really respected Nadella for pushing developer experience and championing opening up the source of .Net. I was like "There's a guy who knows his business and his audience"
This, tho... Come on dude.
“The streets are extended gutters and the gutters are full of blood and when the drains finally scab over, all the vermin will drown. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout 'SAVE US!'...and I'll look down and whisper 'No.”