Copilot could soon live inside Windows 11's File Explorer, as Microsoft tests Chat with Copilot in Explorer, not just in a separate app
https://www.windowslatest.com/2026/01/09/copilot-could-soon-live-inside-windows-11s-file-explorer-as-microsoft-tests-chat-with-copilot-in-explorer-not-just-in-a-separate-app/Open linkView original on lemmy.nz491
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"Kaboom?"
"Yes Rico, kaboom!"
I just got a colonoscopy and the doc said she found some copilot in there
Terminal
Powershell, acktually
It makes sense for it to be there
Eww
Powershell is such garbage. Every time I run it it takes 20 seconds to get to a working prompt.
Only if it's more than a yard deep.
Microslop going full "the beatings will continue until morale improves" with their ensloppification of everything they touch, I see.
MS abandons its other departments development for SLOP 100%. they are on a path to self-destruction.
At this pace Microsoft will change Windows' name to Copilot. That's my prediction.
They're already changing the name of MS Office to "Microsoft Copilot App". So when you use Copilot inside Microsoft Office on Windows, you'll be running Copilot in the Copilot App on Copilot OS.
“Microsoft Windows App” confused the shit out of me earlier. I only realised it was Remote Desktop when I read the description, and I only did that because I was wondering what the fuck Microsoft Windows App is.
"I know we said Windows 10 would be the last version of Windows you'd need, but we really mean it this time with Windows 11. Introducing our new operating system... Compost, I mean, Copilot!"
Microsoft One Copilot would bean incredibly Microsoft thing to call Windows
Microsoft CopilOSt
Holy shit, just fucking stop
clears throat
stop smoking? how is this relevant ?? ;)
When I wanted the file search to not suck I didn’t mean that.
Users: File search should not be this bad
Microsoft: How about this bad?
You don't understand .... you have to talk to file explorer and convince it you really need that file and then talk it into searching for it. (Makes sense .... would YOU like to go into onedrive and try to find something ????)
Explorer already crashes enough without this.
Why don't they work on Explorer's awful performance and constant hanging before working in another chatbot?
You know, useful software development work?
But much agentics tho.
Because there aren’t any developers in charge any more. At places like MS and Google now promotions are given to people who make a big splash. Fixing a bug doesn’t get attention.
Is microsoft secretly run by linux evangelists?
It’s been surreal watching my technically-inclined friends switch.
ive run dual boot systems to prolong the life of older lenovo notebooks, leaving windows up for some proprietary software id need for work.. if this comes to pass though, im fucking GONE. Ill sooner use macOS than anything with a fucking llm looking at the files on my hard drive 👉
Microslop*
Futile, resistance is futile.
Makes sense... No one has promoted linux since 1991 so hard like microsoft does these last 6 months.
The thing is that if MS concentrated on providing a bulletproof experience, a sane licensing mode, with a low, cheap, entry bar, they would just keep being the top dog forever.
Now they are just giving market share to Linux and MacOS for free.
it really is wild that they're pushing away so many people, who otherwise would just sit with them forever, just because profits must always increase
like all they have to do is stop making things worse and people will stay with them and continue joining them. that's literally all they have to do. and they can't do it.
Most public companies and governments focus entirely on short term wins with zero consideration for the future.
Microslop is no different.
The current version of macOS, Tahoe, is also atrocious. It's completely unusable on a desktop, it feels like they want to make it work like an iPad.
For the better or worse, the only good OS is now Linux.
Well, the only piece of Apple tech I currently own is an iPad. I bought the thing through a pretty nice offer from my telco, and for a pretty specific use case, running the Affinity suite on the move without lugging my beefy laptop around.
When I saw how they went full idiot with their glass shit for the UI (hellooo, Windows Aero), I stopped allowing updates. The fact that to reduce transparency and effects to make the thing half usable you have to go into accessibility settings says it all.
Soon in the Microslop support forums: "Please help, I asked Copilot for the photos of my late grandma and it deleted my entire C drive".
The agent has decided you need more OneDrive storage. Your credit card will be charged. If you disagree with the agent, grandma's pictures will be deleted. Comply and rent Batman the Dark Knight Arises on the Windows Store.
Copitlocker
It probably "saw" the trash icon somewhere and some "deep thought" model concluded that erasing everything was a good idea.
This is just pure idiocy and desperation at this point.
I'm surprised at this. If I was given the job to fuck up windows, I wouldn't be able to get such ludicrous ideas
Genuine question. How does all of this useless nonsense make them money? Is it all just from loans? Are they just saying "look at all the AI we're doing" and the investors are just desperate to give them more money?
I just cannot fathom how they profit from all of this. They're spending so much time doing this. For what? What is the business motive for doing this, if not to get bigger loans from their investors?
Copilot is falling very far behind all of the other big AI players in the space that it's actually laughable. The main reason they're implementing it into every Windows first party application is so they can boost their "user" numbers to satisfy investors. Every time you open Explorer, boom that counts as you "using" Copilot.
I asked DeepSeek something the other day and it actually admitted that it didn't know the answer and offered advice on how I could find out. I was actually pretty impressed by that
Is the share price going up? All they care about is the share price.
Down last few months, but overall strong upwards trend over the last few years.
Nadella’s buddies are all making AI garbage, so he thinks he has to make AI garbage too. Because he’s massively uncreative.
And so all the managing leads think “Nadella likes AI! I must find a way to shove AI into my product so that my product/fiefdom doesn’t get the axe! I might even get a bonus! Or promotion!!!”
And so all the coding slaves are tasked with shoehorning AI into every Microsoft product, app, and/or service.
It's metastasizing. There must really be big profit and privacy-invading upsides for MS in this whole mess, since it sure as shit is not being driven by consumer demand.
I wonder how many surveillance dollars are going into that company that isn’t publicly known.
Imagine knowing what every user is doing? What they read, what they play? What pictures they take? What websites they prefer? Where they get their news? Who they speak with? Their social graph? Where they shop? How often? What their finances look like? Who they work for? What they do for them? How connected they are? How that company is doing? What their quarterly report look like before they make it public? What their plans are for those upcoming layoffs? Who they do business with for importing? What the next big thing they’re designing is?
What Microsoft is attempting to do is to create a planned economy that only benefits the rich. They’re trying to do the thing they always complain is bad about Communism, but do it in a way that gives the rich people control.
We are living in a trap and Microsoft must be eradicated from all computers and networks. OpenAI too.
There are thousands of data brokers but we don't really know to who Evil corp is selling data
Windows obsession with destroying their own file explorer is bizarre.
Windows, the first ever sloperating system.
I like somethings sloppy, but definitely not my OSes
Gotta pump up those usage numbers somehow. Before long, it'll be on the login screen
Do you want me to fill up your password box for you?
[logs in with credentials]
— I'm sorry, I can't let you do that.
Install Linux Problem Solved.
I have to use Windows 11 for my school computer, not allowed to change the OS. I didn't realize how shit awful explorer had gotten between 10 and 11. For anyone reading this who has to use 11: there are explorer alternatives. I use OneCommander and it let me change the default explorer for shortcuts and when other programs bring things up like with "show in folder" options. I don't have to use windows explorer anymore and while it's no Linux at least it doesn't have fucking copilot and it gives me back basic control
It may not be helpful enough and getting on in age (maybe others know of something similar), but there is a mod called OldNewExplorer that you can run and choose to modify a few elements of Explorer. I've used it to change the details pane from the side back to the bottom of the window.
My father always used Total Commander, the default explorer has always been lame
I also found this project that tries to restore the old start menu and explorer:
https://openshellmenu.com/
Opens Hell Menu? That sounds like fun.
Thank you Microslop!
ALL YOUR DIRECTORY ARE BELONG TO US
YOU HAVE NO CHANCE TO PRIVATE
MAKE YOUR TIME
Yeah I felt a bit more clever this time, than just repeating, for the umpteenth time on stories like this, over the last year or so:
... People still use MSFT products?
Yeah I keep making that exact same comment... its been really easy, as a former MSFT employee, to see where this train has been headed.
MSFT is a cult, ok?
Thats the only way to explain/describe management and C Suite.
And they've been like that for at least a decade.
Somebody set up us the bomb!
Just what I want: file explorer to load even slower than it does now.
This is just amazing. XD
I can already see them brainstorming how to put that stuff in the calculator app.
At least, they don't put it into the event viewer, because its source code has never seen a change. Looks like 10 years ago and the performance is as bad as then.
if you judge it by the standards of current system performance, the phrasing is more appropriately "as good as then"
and I hate that that is the case. like seriously, how do you fuck up file explorer (and I'm not talking about whatever this post is about that I haven't even opened yet, I'm talking about Windows 11 file explorer being essentially not functional)
Well just earlier today, I installed Pop OS on an external drive. I'll be using that to see if I can use it as a daily driver. If I can, microsoft can eat the entirety of my arse.
I cannot understand why a user would ever want this
Mhm. Shit people don't want continues to be integrated into required system applications so you cannot remove/avoid it.
Seen it comming since the integration of Edge into Windows and how it's forcibly re-installed everytime you try to remove it. Hell; even the corporate work PCs I use, which lock you out of every non-corporate supplied application such as wordpad, calculator and even the ability to see (not even modify, just view) the desktop background: failed to disable Edge (their default is Chrome). You can right click files > open with > Edge (none of the other applications listed work in any other circumstances, just edge and chrome).
Windows is dead.
Yes.
But this is also because your system administrators are incompetent.
There are myriad other ways to accomplish the same thing, but this is easily rolled out via Group Policy.
Given the way everything else is successfully disabled; something tells me they either did that and it's just not working properly for Edge, or that flag got reset by some MS update that nobody asked for and it's just not been noticed by IT yet.
Not beating the cancer/parasite allegations
All they had to do is built an actually good search into explorer, they didn't do that for 20 years and now they force this trash on us... Good thing I ditched Windows last year and soon will sell all my Microsoft shares, that company has no future or vision it's disgusting
MS is likely spent all thier R&D on AI, and building datacenters, they want to somehow justfiy recoup the losses from the "profitless LLM"
Glad I moved to Linux recently, windows 11 has been atrocious
Never going back.
Same!
It’s really sad to me that everyone sees this as just an annoying superfluous feature.
Doesn’t anyone else see why Microsoft is so fucking horny for this???
It’s a fucking panopticon! They’re trying to look at everything you produce and save (OneDrive) and now they’re trying to get their hands on what you think (what you ask Copilot) and the conclusions you come to (Copilot’s generated response).
They can know and control anything they want. Imagine how deep that goes? This is way beyond fucking banner ads. This is about picking and choosing winners in the global economy. This is about knowing who will fall before they do and hedging. This is about industrial espionage and being first to market. This is about silencing all political dissidents before they even speak publicly. This is true, actual, corporate dystopian shit. This is Minority Report but janky, and privatized.
This needs to be stopped.
Linux has been very nice to me. I will look back fuck shitdows.
https://filepilot.tech/
Looks cool. But holy crap. Windows search is so bad that you need everything.exe. now it's gotten to the point where we need a third party explorer to do the most basic tasks without being bombarded with ads or AI crap.
I just really... REALLY wish citrix and epic worked on Linux. I would switch in a heart beat if this gets pushed into the wild.
everything saved my work life
and I'm not even on windows 11 yet
Epic games work on Linux via Heroic. GOG, Amazon, and Epic games all work through it.
Epic as in electronic medical records, but did not know that. Pretty neat.
Ah, had never heard of that before. Sounds like we both learned something. <3
You can do that Microslop. It’s not exactly possible for me to not use your software even harder at this point.
So glad I made the switch to Linux recently. Kept putting it off because of one pet project, but managed to get it working on Linux. My Explorer on Windows had a very noticeable memory leak.
For those stuck on Windows, try double commander instead of explorer. It's cross-platform so you could use it on Linux too.
I've been on Directory Opus for many years, it's absolutely excellent and I struggle when on Linux without the same toolbox.
Stopped using Explorer long time ago. They were unable to implement tabs and color coding of files for the last 30 years. Just use Directory Opus.
Ah, that would explain why they started to allow uninstalling the separate app.
How many times can they shoot their own foot? They must aim like Star Troopers…
No regrets on switching to Linux here. Almost all of the time I just use the GUI to launch steam or Firefox. No AI nagging me (aside from whatever nonsense Firefox is up to)
... which, in firefox, is either off by default or can be switched off.
check out librewolf or waterfox for firefox without the corporate garbage and with more secure and private defaults.
I've thought about switching. I do like the password saving and syncing between Android and desktop that Firefox does, and I'm not sure if the forks do that.
Firefox Sync is built into LibreWolf, it's just disabled by default. IronFox on Android also supports sync.
How long until it starts deleting files at random. Or uploading their content to MS servers. You're screwed if you're on Windows at this point.
It does this already.
Surely they'll make the file explorer faster now that they're "upgrading" it.
Question as someone who keeps being prevented from switching to Linux because of professional programs that are only Win/Mac.
I often read that you can just use Wine? So I would be in a Linux environment for everything and when I need to use a Windows program it can be run via Wine without leaving that environment?
Or is it a case of having to switch OS's whenever I need to? Am I confusing that with dual-boot?
you have a few options. yes, wine. also, lutris, winboat, and bottles. these all act as 'make windows app run like any other app on my linux machine'. if those don't work for your program then you can try installing a windows virtual machine with virt-manager. if you're familiar with docker, check out dockur/windows for a docker container that automates a quick win vm setup with a webgui. (disclaimer: i have not tried this project yet, don't know how well it works)
if you need heavy gpu use, however, you might have to dual-boot. you have linux installed on one disk partition and windows installed on another. you pick which one you want with the grub bootloader menu that shows when you start up. you can only run one at a time and must reboot to switch. it's highly recommended to install windows first, then linux, and familiarize yourself with repairing grub with a linux liveusb as windows updates frequently break it. don't worry i know that sounds scary, but it's just the bootloader that breaks, not your linux or windows install, and it's just a few simple commands to fix.
imho almost any professional software should work with wine/lutris/winboat/bottles/vm, but dual boot is there if you find it necessary.
also consider if you actually do need those particular pro programs. there are likely multiple foss (free and open source software) projects that do whatever it is you need to do. of course if it's a case of company policy mandating use of certain programs there's not much you can do besides dual-boot.
Think of wine as an emulator. It's a program that runs in Linux that then runs Windows programs. Usually quite well. It's all done without leaving Linux.
Dual boot is when you start the computer up you can either boot into Linux or Windows, both are options but they don't run at the same time.
Keep in mind that Wine Is Not an Emulator. It implements many windows features but it's incomplete. Be sure to check if whatever the professional software you're using also works on Wine.
Or you could run Windows in an actual emulator (like Qemu). I remember it worked pretty well on 16GB of RAM. Also you may want to check out Winboat
There is also the possibility of running other OS in a virtual machine. Like https://www.virtualbox.org/
If you do that you don’t leave Linux, but spin up an environment where you can have a full installation of i.e. Windows running. Your Windows environment is not aware of Linux, which it is hosted on, and should behave like a normal Windows machine.
I may sound complicated, but is pretty easy to use when you get going. Try watching a few videos on the subject if you are interested.
Lutris, vmware
MS: JUST EAT IT
It is a cold dark night at Microsoft Headquarters. The moon is blacked out by the clouds and rain and thunder beat relentlessly against the office windows.
The head UX engineer stares at the prompt nervously. He hesitates, his whole life has been building up to this point. He is going to control where windows is going and shape the lives of billions of people.
"You got this," He mumbles to himself, "you know what to do."
He grabs a screenshot of his desktop and types the fateful words. Make this desktop make more money
The AI says processing...
Nadella has gives exactly 0 fucks about Microsoft's products, legacy, its employees and the company itself, let alone the customers. His only concern is how can he squeeze more money from the white Dalits while enslaving Shudras and stealing their labour so he can further enrich himself. Anyone thinking otherwise is delusional.
So I hear there's a way to use Linux to emulate Windows so you can use Windows apps?
Yeah but people just WINE about linux.
Which program do you want? The general solution is to install the program via WINE. Another solution is to run the entirety of windows in an emulator like QEMU.
How well do those work? Is it seamless or do I need to spend hours fiddling with it to get a program to work?
Depends on the program. But, for 90% of them it is just: "wine programname.exe" in terminal and it just works. If it is an installer, it will be in your start menu like normal and you can just open in from there after. For the other 10%, I lookup the error online and it will need you to add a component via winetricks.
There is a contingent that just won't work. For those, it's easier to just find an alternative.
As a rule, I use a Linux native program first. Then fall back on a Windows program if I can't find what I want. Many programs build for both now. Things like OBS, LibreOffice, Firefox, Chrome, Discord, Dropbox, Steam are the same in Windows and Linux, just install and use it as they are built for both OSes.
Now just relax . . and let the hooks do their work.
They’re really tring to get it deep in their efforts to shove it down our throats. Must have had a lot of people uninstall it. Anyone know how to downgrade from 11 to 10 on a home version? Asking for a friend.
Make a Win 10 USB boot drive, boot into it, choose to format the drive, install 10.
That said, don't hook this computer up to the internet, Windows 10 isn't getting security updates.
As if this AI shit isn't in of itself a security threat?
It is. My solution was to go to an OS that has both security updates and isn't AI infested. Neither Win 10 nor Win 11 meet those criteria.
I've been considering switching to Linux, but there's things that I'd want to know first, like:
Does it have the Windows GUI?
Is the file architecture the same (C: Drive, Documents, Program Files, etc.)?
Can I migrate my files over through One Drive?
Can I use my Word/Excel 2024 there?
What's the alternative to Windows Defender?
Can I run all my Steam games on it?
Linux Mint's Cinnamon GUI is very similar. Has a start menu, task bar, tray, etc. It was one of the reasons I chose Mint, as it feels familiar.
"File System" works the same as "C:" in Windows, it is your root drive. Your personal effects live in the "Home" folder. This is like My Documents in Windows. Everything else is in various places under File System.
Microsoft doesn't make a Linux GUI for OneDrive. That said, you can get your files through the OneDrive website (simplest) or though a third party GUI people have made for this exact purpose.
Microsoft doesn't make software for Linux (with some exceptions). However, LibreOffice works well on both Windows and Linux (meaning you can try it out right now), and it works well with your spreadsheets and documents.
Unneeded. Viruses are 99% a Windows issue. It's the only OS that needs active defense like that. There are some options, but I wouldn't bother with them.
All of mine do. Check out ProtonDb. Anything rated Gold or higher will just work. Things marked silver will work after some tinkering. And I wouldn't bother with Bronze.
Nice another registry tweak I'll need!
Why even have Windows at this point? Just have Copilot as the OS and be done with it.
That’s the goal.
No more personal computer. Only dumb terminal and cloud. You will rent your needs from the rich. You will own nothing and like it. Your income is their revenue stream, or you shall cease to function in society.
This is robbery.
Fuck off with this shit...
Aren't they trying to fix explorer being slow af? How would adding copilot help?
You're funny my friend. Their AI agents don't see any problems with file explorer's performance. It will never get fixed, it will just become more bloated and broken as time goes on.
This brings new meaning to releasing satan on your hard drive.
Soon there won't be an explorer, or any folders that you can access. Just ask your ad assistant for all the things, it knows all (your personal data), won't tell you much tho (bcs you are not their supervisor).
Yey 😑
Installed Dolphin on my work desktop which runs Win11, definitely not meant for Windows as certain functions like searching or dragging and dropping don’t work, at least it’s 1 step close to making windows slightly more bearable.
Ha, I did the same thing on my work computer. It's a little broken in some aspects, but a 1000x better the using that dumpster fire know as File Explorer (oh sorry MS let me get it right... Microsoft File Explorer Copilot App)
I have a new naming strategy for Microsoft.
They renamed Office 365 to Copilot 365, right?
But there are so many other cool businessy numbers! I propose this:
Explorer becomes Copilot 360
Edge becomes Copilot24 (24 suffix is/was very common for websites in the 00s here in Estonia, auto24 is our biggest used car marketplace to this day for an example)
Calculator becomes Copilot Pi
Xbox app becomes Copilot Series X
And the Microsoft Store becomes Copilot One X
Be careful here, champ. You're giving them a lot of ideas. Microsoft might come in and scoop up all these names. However, there's just one problem with your naming scheme. You forgot to add "App" at the end of all the names.
why is this tech always got implemented as chat lmao.
Because tech bros have a kink with shoving AI into every single thing... even your rectum in the near future. Prepare yourself my friend.