Tent where Charlie Kirk was murdered recreated at Turning Point convention — for selfies
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American Christofascism is a death cult. Change my mind.
All Abrahamic faiths are death cults
That's whataboutism, though. Catholics aren't great, either, but they're not nearly as bad as Evangelicals who worship Trumpism.
No, it's not whataboutism.
The Catholics own more property than anyone else on Earth. Do you know how they got that property, gentle reader?
All Abrahamic faiths are death cults, no exceptions
Why? You go ahead and believe that. No one cares
Why comment this? No one cares
I do not care to comment
But... You commented
No one cares about your silly logic
No one cares about your lack of caring about my silly logic!
I'm pooping right now and my dogs are waiting in bed for me to cuddle them. I hope I've added sufficiently asinine information to this conversation.
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Did the idolization of a barbaric torture device not clue you in?
Hey now the crucifix is a plenty civilized torture device. Unlike the savages who just killed you before desecrating your corpse the Romans lashed you to a cross and displayed your still living body then they'd take your corpse down eventually. Do you not see the fruits of civilization when compared to the savagery of the barbarian, especially since you may get running water and lead poisoning in return.
You know I was initially making what amounted to pro-Roman shitpost but uhhhh it kinda turned into a weird commentary on the United States midway through.
Finding lumber in the desert? Now that's torture!
The Romans were civilized, they had logistics for that.
Plenty of people care. It's a large group, and many members of the group are dangerous. Like Charlie Kirk was.
This isn't a movie plot we're talking about here, nor is it some small far-away regional conflict that could never affect you.
I'm in the US but even if I was on the opposite side of the globe in a decent and closely allied country like Australia or NZ, I think I'd still be worried about these psychos being in control of the 800 pound gorilla.
No need to project on to others, the void that is your life existence.
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Fact: STFU already
awh, poor wittle baby couldn't handle some wittle comments and had to post something to make himself feewl bettahhh. wahhh wahhh. |:)
Fact: STFU because you're a mentally imbalanced half-wit.
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This tells us more about what these monsters believe than Charlie Kirk ever could
GTFO, man if the left did something as tasteless, MAGA heads would explode.
That is SO on brand, isn't it? Wow.
the thing is: magas don't care if leftist heads explode or mock them even, but leftists somehow can't, when roles are reversed. leftists can't win the "who's more ruthless" game like this.
Nah, Charlie said plenty about how he thought dolphins were people, and how mass shootings are 😉 gang violence 😉
RIP BOZO
“I’ll tell you that you’re not allowed to celebrate his death, while I go over to this tent and celebrate his death”.
Reminder: they harassed math teachers for wearing a shirt with blood near the neck for Halloween. It wasn't even about Charlie Kirk.
If anyone left of TPUSA did this MAGA would be screeching.
Maga is so god damn weird. Its exhausting
I read this 3 times as Magic is so good damn weird before my morning brain clicked
I have a similar problem when people refer to MTG
That said I wish someone would drop Royal Assassin on Trump
Why not add a wax figure of Kirk, wearing exactly what he wore that day?
Bonus: you could have another figure molded in pose of the moment when he was shot? "Yes, now you can experience Charlie's exact moment of martyrdom!"
And you know what? There would be a line.
Hook it up to a hose and squirt fans with blood through a hole in his neck!
AI slop isn't AI slopping for once
The face is way too proportional tho
We can fix that.
Oh man it could be like a gwar concert!
🤘
I commented almost the same thing before reading this 🤦.
shit, i might visit that
Gwar has taught me that people love being sprayed with blood.
— the very people who made this tent
erika was celebrating too.
I'm somehow sure his death also took some burden from her shoulders if Stephen Crowder is anything to go by...
erika was celebrating with NIcki minaj today.
Can we just start publicly call them weird to their faces again? Please!?!? It worked and started to break through their silly imaginary world where they own limbs at a convention for weirdos and kiddie-fiddlers! I don't know why they stopped!
Walz started the trend and it resonated with and energized the base so much to the point where he surged to the spotlight from relative obscurity in a very short amount of time and ended up getting picked as running mate by the Harris campaign.
But then Harris's campaign almost immediately pivoted to the classic strategy of, "damn our base, they're going to vote for us anyway so instead let's appeal hard to the right", despite that consistently being a losing strategy over the last decade or so.
So they told Walz to shut up, just stand there and look pretty and cut it out with the "weird" stuff, it'll alienate voters on the right. Turns out instead they just killed all the momentum growing within their own base while at the same time failing to win the votes of the weirdo cult members wearing ear pads in solidarity with their God king.
Christ, they really are a death cult
That's as crass as using a cross to symbolize Christ.
Oh shit...
Wow, that's completely tasteless. You would think that's what the murderer would want to see and visit. Good job guys.
I feel like Charlie Kirk should be nominated for a Darwin award. Dude literally campaigned for guns, said it was Ok that some people die from gun violence and then got shot while sitting under a tent labelled "prove me wrong".
he had children
EDIT: which means he cannot get the Darwin award. this is not defending him.
Everyone always screws that up. The Darwin award doesn't just mean the person died from their own stupidity, it means they did the world a favor and removed themselves from the gene pool before passing on their genes. By that note, people who are unable to reproduce also cannot be eligible for the award.
I'm a parent too, and that's exactly why I am glad his disgusting voice was silenced in the most public and ironic way possible.
Sorry for ambiguity, I meant this in the context of Darwin award
Ah yeah good edit, I wasn't even considering that you could have meant it that way.
I decided to go look up the rules in order to contribute something more useful to this discussion, and it turns out that the mere presence of offspring does not disqualify one from the award!
Given their reasoning, I think Kirk would qualify. And given that his whole brand was about spreading stupid dangerous ideas to everybody's kids including his own, and then he died in a spectacularly ironic and public way, I think he should actually win one!
https://darwinawards.com/rules/rules.children.html
I mean, maybe. Depends on when JD got his couch nob in there.
Darwin award is for people who make themselves unable to reproduce.
I need to edit the comment in order not to sound like I'm defending him.
no problem, I didn't think enough before posting
It didn't prove him wrong, it just made him one of the "some people."
This is grotesque, I couldn't imagine thinking this is normal or okay. These people are so detached from reality.
they're creating a new religion before our very eyes. best to get versed in discussing theologies because that's the propaganda language they speak and how we'll deprogram enough of them to survive this
"And Charlie Kirk would have been sitting right here when he was shot in the fucking neck."
Churches have a statue of a man being tortured to death on a cross prominently placed within them. So it's kinda on brand.
It's a death cult. Makes sense for them to have a shrine to death.
you know, before that troll gurgled his last slur the term "getting kirked" was more likely to mean you're being fucked by a spaceship captain.
I like the new meaning instead.
I guess "penetrated by something that isn't good for your health" is the common denominator
What a fitting memorial to Charlie Kirk's final words, when he said we shouldn't care so much about gun violence because so many of the people getting shot aren't worth getting upset over. That's an important lesson in irony.
I always wondered who would take selfies at Auschwitz and now I know.
Auschwitz was the scene of despicable horrors, though. not really the same thing
I see what you did there. Don’t disagree.
People do it though. Walk around taking peace sign selfies and posing on the tracks. Ridiculously disrespectful and tacky as fuck.
Daymn. I'm going to start selling selfie sticks outside Auschwitz
Follow your leader. :)
Why
Literally why
I can't
I don't have the energy for this right now
Because money. Someone thought “oh I can make money doing this”. It’s all they care about. Money
To feed their prosecution fetish that justifies their vile views.
honestly I forgot what most of these comments were for because I've been inactive for 2 weeks
They actually evil. It's that simple. We're brought up to think humans have innate morals that ultimately prevail. Some just don't have it. The current president has shone a light on this. Unfortunately right and wrong has to be taught.
Honestly, this doesn't feel different to me than using the cross as a holy symbol for Christians. Both are very weird culty behaviours, but not much different. Although at least Christianity has the centuries long traditions, history, and international numbers to justify their behaviour. The tent thing without that context makes it extra weird.
Are these chucklefucks gonna start wearing little tent necklaces?
Well Western Christianity was also a social construct designed to control the masses into working against their own interest... rather fitting.
"murdered" or "had his own beliefs regarding gun control practiced"?
Ok so he did have the right to free speech in public and a lot of people didn't agree with him, and I hated him, still do, but he didn't deserve to be shot. It was perfectly in line with the amendments and he had that right. But this is a bit much, coming from somebody who hated him with a passion when he was alive an deceased.
I don't know, I think I'm still calling the outcome a win for Kirk. He really got what he wanted, guns are readily available to all the
whiteright people.Actually, I think everyone got what they wanted, conservatives got to pretend to stand on moral high ground for a month, and progressive got one less Charlie Kirk. Win, win, win.
To be fair, people are paying for cross necklasses after their last religious leader died on one...
Still weird though. I like the hbomberguy phrased it; 'how do people know I'm part of the jesus fan club if I'm not repping his holy merch??'
That sentence from hbomberguy is a work of art.
Right up there with "We're all domestic terrorists" from a few years ago.
I feel like people who support this type of politics are emotionally blunted and stunted. They'll use his death as a tool of martyrdom for their movement, which this is a prime example of, but I don't really feel like anyone loved him or mourned him in any genuine sense. I think it's because they don't really have any attachment to anyone in a real sense. I'm not saying that other people of other beliefs don't use grief as a performative tool either, but I feel like most of the problem with conservatives at the root of it all is blunted emotions.
What the actual fuck?
A death cult in this day and age. Can you imagine?
Jesus dude this is so disrespectful. And this is someone they actually like.
He was a shit-bag, so its disrespect he deserved.
This would be a lot less weird if ck wasn't a fucking horrible human being.
I think it would still be weird. But then I have a photo of my kid smiling in front of the limo JFK died in (at the Henry Ford museum), so maybe I’m wrong.
People have monuments and shrines and stuff all the time, so part of it isn't that weird. It would still be weird how people are treating it though. Taking selfies and shit. It's like the dumbest, most non-self aware people's hot takes, crystallized and evolved into a political party.
But if you believe what he was doing was right, and actually listened to him "debate (uncomfortable public verbal conflict logically) is good", then a public selfie under the tent does make a lot more sense.
Unfortunately for them, THEY are the ones that need the growth, but treat it as a sneaky way to proliferate "values" and "ideas" in a really messed up little chapel. Spreading your worldview under a tent is as old as history, all religions basically do it. So it probably felt holy to a lot of stupid people.
Could you imagine how these psychopathic wierdos would be screaming if the same display was at the Democratic Convention?
Prove me wrong, LOL.
That is fucking ghoulish.
A “selfie” in this context would be using a firearm instead of a phone camera, no?
Got to be SEEN showing you are on the "right" side and care.
Its like having to pay a tithe to the social media machine in the form of cringey posts that confirm the message desired.
Actually it's a good idea! For some it's a place for happy selfies, for some its a place for sad selfies. Nobody will complain about it!
Ooh, could you get a video of yourself saying something racist before gurgling and slumping over?
Lmao would get a pic with crossbone eyes, tongue out, double peace signs. :3
Did they also sell the “Freedom” shirt he was wearing while being shot?
Real missed merch opportunity if they didn't. Would have been disrespectful to his memory if they didn't cash in.
With the blood stains added, of course
Well thats not morbid at all
Charlie WHO?
Straight to jail!!
You gotta get over it.
Charlie on the MTA.. 🎶
Did he ever return?
I would 100% take a selfie in a recreation of the setting where a hateful piece of shit got murdered, but not for the same reasons as the people at this event.
They should place the bullet in glass case with his exact words about sacrificing children for the 2nd Amendment. The last sentence should be, "Yes, he was a sick racist shitbag.
People are so goddamn weird.
Money was vacuumed from the gullible, of course it was there.
People are messed up
"You could get shot here, too! Just book the full package!"
On the other hand, let's celebrate the fact that Charlie Kirk has not sputtered anything racist in the last months. It's a new record for him!
More like Whitoid Fest where not only the fundies come in but also closet Nazis and Kluxers.
peak right winger mental gymnastic
The modern day Horst Wessel.
It's actually pretty normal for side show freaks to be displayed inside of tents; back in the day you could see that shit for a quarter or less, now-a-days... it comes at the cost of decency & intelligence.
It should be a shooting gallery. ;)
Is the 'fest' in 'America Fest' short for festering?
Yo. Do they charge money for this? Hmmm
Is this meant to be a recreation of that specific scene? Or was it just meant to be a recreation of his normal setup when doing these?
Can't say for certain... it's almost like there's ... there's these things. A bunch of them, just underneath the headline. Words and sentences in a smaller yet similar font which appear to be related to that very headline. They might even explain the situation in further detail...
Idk tho... I can't read, so I can't say for certain if these things are indeed related. You'd better ask chat GPT for an article summary, just to be sure.
Love the snark. The thing Lemmy needs the most is less engagement. So keep up your bullshit!
Second, I read the article, and nowhere did it mention if it was intentional. Which was the question. So maybe you need a lesson in reading comprehension.
I'm on the side where quality of comments > quantity of comments, but I do see how big data numbers via mindless engagement could have a similar kind of value. No relevancy to the article, however. I digress.
The first paragraph has the information you seek. If missed, fear not! It is mentioned at least one other time in the article (hint: look for the interview with the event staff). Good luck, and Godspeed! o7
At no point in the first paragraph does it say it is intentionally supposed to be a recreation of his death scene. It is mentioned throughout the article that the author and MS Now reporter that that’s what it is.
Now, where I am most dumbfounded by your comment is the fact that THERE IS NO INTERVIEW WITH THE STAFF. Did you misinterpret a report by a MS Now reporter as an interview with event staff?
I can’t believe you’re the one giving me shit. You gotta do more than look at the words. Comprehension is important too.
Well given that specific scene occurred in his normal setup it's the same thing?
Like the car JFK was sitting in when he was assassinated is not just a normal car after that event.
OK, but if they considered his set up to be iconic during his life, then it’s not fair to say that they should never be able to reference it again just because some terrorist murdered him in it.
I certainly hate this dude, but I think there’s a big difference between saying “take your photo at a recreation of his assassination” and “we’re reclaiming this symbol as a celebration of his life”.
I just feel that things and places are tainted by horrific events that are associated with them, even if there's a much more vanilla history.
As an example, the park at Bondi Beach in Australia where there was recently a terrorist massacre. It will always be the place where that happened, not the place where 10s of thousands of picnics were had.
Yes you can say that Kirk's tent is a celebration of his life and his passion, but lots of people will find that to be in poor taste.
Everything about these people is creepy and weird. Before this guy died, I didn't know who he was, but if I had I would have thought that making a living going to universities and manipulating people into signing up to this ideology was creepy and weird. His wife weirds me out too.
I get it. I just think that if it happened to somebody I liked, I would want to preserve the positivity of their life. Treating the iconic scene as a permanent tragedy is letting the terrorists win.