Trump, 79, Claims Nobody Knows What a Magnet Is
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Juggalo president confirmed?
Insane Clown President
"gUys He's obViouSly reFeReNcing tHe iCp mEme, because we all know this dude is deep into Internet country¡"-someone's serious take on this when they're confronted with it.
I'd rather have violent j & shaggy 2 dope in the white house tbh
Without hesitation.
Whoop whooop!
He'd be hated amongst the jugs. They don't play to that fiddle.
Violent Jay loves his mom
Is this a joke that's going over my head?
It's just a quote from Violent Jay during the last election when ICP last had 5 minutes in the corporate media, it's the reason he gives for voting for democrats
https://youtu.be/hf3n5A4uLsk&t=4m17s
Ah I gotcha. Thank you.
Muthafuckin miracles
Just being real for a second, I think those guys are decent folks and anti right wing lunacy.
Please stop writing headlines that start with “Trump, 79,” that don’t end with. Well. You know.
Those headlines you're thinking of don't start "Trump, 79". They start, "President Donald John Trump, 79."
Gonna be alotta dem politicians mourning the loss and saying nice things about dude.
"I think for the past decade, we can all agree that I've been one of the biggest critics of President Trump. There have been times when he's done things that I thought were worthy of praise, for example, when he negotiated the release of the remaining Israeli hostages in their conflict with Palestine. But nothing he's done in his entire political career is as praiseworthy as what he did earlier today. He demonstrated today that he could put the needs of the American people first, and for that, I think we should all thank him."
They started doing it this year to clickbait people into thinking he died
why they play with my feelings like that 😭
... they should instead all end with ", thank you for your attention to this matter."
I mean, in the same way that no one knows for certain what matter really is.
But that really doesn’t matter. Release the Epstein files, provide healthcare for the US, and stop imprisoning my friends and neighbors
We (meaning you, because I'm not american) will accept one of the two latter too.
What everyone glosses over and completely never see.
Is that this idiot represents the entire country.
If you have an idiot for a leader.
Logic says, your country is full of idiots.
Yeah, we went through this already, George Bush the Second made you guys look very stupid
Little did I know that the extreme low of W was actually a relatively high point.
It was less obvious because the world was less connected and not everyone had a high quality video camera in their pocket.
The media could also be relied upon to edit in a favourable manner. That's still the case today, but he can't get away from the fact that every time he shows up, people film him, because he's always going to say something stupid. The idea that he might manage to have a normal day and not say something insanely dumb, is just inconceivable.
did you live through the Bush presidency, or are you making assumptions based on the times? Because the media tore Bush to absolute shreds and painted him as a gigantic idiot.
Pretty sure the hegemonic narrative had W as savior of the planet after 911.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fictionalized_portrayals_of_George_W._Bush
tbf, he really is the perfect representation of a large subsection of the US population, rich, middle/working class, poor....
he's dumb as shit and acquired everything because of his name (wasting most of that fortune/legacy to boot).
The pale skinned subsection.
I agree. The middle of the bell curve is woefully inadequate. Those dingalings.
I suppose if we've got Einstein and Hawking we must have people like Trump to balance it out.
Einstein was born in Germany and spent much of his life (including the portion where he did a lot of his most significant work) in Switzerland. He only moved to the United States towards the end of his life.
Hawking was born in the UK and lived his entire life there.
The country was founded by literal enslavers. It's always been dumb AF.
Exactly right....
You know those old cartoons that were totally not politically correct showing a bad stereotype of a Mexican, with a sombrero and a poncho, sleeping off a tequila bender under the shade of a cactus?
Well, the orange pedophile is EXACTLY the American version of that: confidently ignorant, morbidly obese, with undeserved resources, zero education, zero manners, zero culture.
We all know those stereotypes are supposed to be rude jokes barely based on any reality... I mean, there are cacti in Mexico and I am sure more than one Mexican has had a Tequila bender, but there is never the expectation you'll go to Mexico and actually see that.
And now, Muricans proved theirs not only exists, it is what they look up to apparently.
That is like France choosing this guy as their next President
Is that even English?
It's as English as this is
I generally get more coherent sentences out of just repeatedly tapping my keyboard on my phone and letting auto correct just make things up..
Yeah, maybe not. But honestly it's close.
I can never get over the fact that this is real. I have seen this quote so often - and I've seen the video of him actually saying the words!- but still it seems surreal to me. The "Look, having nuclear"-quote. One for the history books, for sure.
It'll be a historic speech and require mandatory memorization for school children in the future idiocracy
“I say, what would happen if the boat sank from its weight, and you’re in the boat, and you have this tremendously powerful battery, and the battery is now underwater. And there’s a shark that’s approximately 10 yards over there, …By the way, lot of shark attacks lately, I watched some guys justifying it today. ‘Well, they weren’t really that angry. They bit off the young lady’s leg because of the fact that they were, they were not hungry, but they misunderstood who she was. He said ‘there’s no problem with sharks, they just didn’t really understand a young woman’s swimming. She really got decimated and other people too, a lot of shark attacks. So I said, there’s a shark 10 yards away from the boat, do I get electrocuted? If the boat is sinking, water goes over the battery, the boat is sinking, do I stay on top of the boat and get electrocuted? Or do I jump over by the shark and not get electrocuted?Because I will tell you he didn’t know the answer. He said, ‘you know, nobody’s ever asked me that question.’ I said I think it’s a good question. I think there’s a lot of electric current coming to that water. But you know what I’d do? If there was a shark or you get electrocuted, I’ll take electrocution every single time. I’m not getting near the shark.
Good thing we fired all those scientists.
The thing with old people talking gibberish is that you never know if they are on drugs, or didn't have enough drugs.
It's called American
In 2020 I began my studies at Uni. Our music business lecturer always had nice ppts prepared for the class and most of the time he either had couple of fidget spinner memes or "fucking magnets, how do they work" memes. Brings back memories.
They just do.
From the article
The “polarizing” president was in conversation with Fox News about the economy when he veered off track…
Dad reporter confirmed. He even snuck in an “off track” before talking about trains.
What is this guys obsession with magnets?
"Magnets don't work when wet" "Nobody knows what magnets are"
Does this obsession stem from the fact that he repels every decent person?
Advisors are telling him how important rare earths are and their importance in magnets. Since China has curtailed (if not halted?) exports, the rest of the world's industries are in rather deep shit.
This is where all the mumble-fucking about magnets is coming from. Trump's trying to say they're not important, they suck, we don't need them, in order to head off supply issues. Same reason he was telling our Navy that we should replace the magnetic plane and ordnance lifters and go back to steam power. No shit.
He also seems to think America can spin up our own rare earth supply, but acknowledges he basically begging and threatening Xi in the meantime.
Anyway, today's rant finally tied it all together for me.
this would all be a lot funnier if I wasnt living through the nightmare personally
To be fair america could, rare earths aren't actually that rare. The main thing is that mining them is the environmental equivelent of pouring fuel everywhere and setting the place on fire. That stops most countries which is why China has the market so cornered but with how the US feels about the concept of breathable air these days they could totally secure a domestic supply.
You could mine them in environmentally sound ways it's just that doing so would be expensive and China doesn't care so they just go with open cast mines, and render the environment uninhabitable.
But you could dig a mining shaft and do it that way but as I said that's expensive and dangerous, which needs even more money to mitigate the danger.
Thank you, never thought about it that way.
I thought it's just part of his general weirdness or a symptom of his dementia when in reality it's his hubris making him think he can talk the US out of rare earths usage.
To be fair: "A magnet works because negatively charged electrons repel each other. "
"Why do negatively charged electrons repel each other? "
"..... Well .. Ok, so hear me out. You're going to need to understand quantum mechanics and then the fermion principal. Then you'll know that the electrons aren't allowed to occupy the same space, and the easiest way to avoid being in the same space is to not touch each other. The electrons know they aren't allowed to touch because they've studied fermions."
None of that is correct though.
Permanent magnets attract/repel because of aligned current loops in the material. It's an electrodynamic effect that's not related to Pauli Exclusion.
I've used magnets to cook rice, build motors, and a variety of misc dumb shit between but I have no idea of if any of this or the other post is even real
Just as God intended.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO0r930Sn_8
That dude shared the Nobel prize for Quantum Electrodynamics, and is a legend of teaching physics. That few minutes might not teach you all about magnets, but it might convince you that understanding them is a a big big question.
Another interesting thing about Feyman's video is that since the time he made this, the reason of why ice is slippery has actually changed, and his long-standing theory is no longer observed as correct. It's a different reason, involving dipoles.
Yes it is.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermion
On the other hand… ”why do things fall down?” Now THERE’S a rabbit hole.
I don't think there's anything necessarily wrong in simplifying a subject and allowing that simplified answer to be the one the public knows
I think it's acceptable to simply say that magnets of the same polarity repel each other, and not going to the explanation as to why. It's up to people if they want to understand that, and they can seek that information out themselves.
Also I think it's perfectly acceptable to explain gravity as a force that pulls things down. Trying to go into the whole area of space time and light cones is unnecessary for the casual explanation.
I would not think any less of a political leader if their understanding of magnets was simply the basic one that everybody else knows. But I absolutely would think less of my leader if he appeared not to even have a high school level understanding of magnetism. It would make me worry about what other things everybody else knows, that apparently he does not.
Yep. And for the most part the answer you'll get is just that "these are universal forces. Excepted as observably true, but the why is seemingly unknown beyond "it's a universal force."
We can mostly know what magnets are doing, but answering why it's a universal force that just is, is a different matter. We just know electrons really don't wanna touch each other, and I'm assuming if they did, matter wouldn't exist.
"down" is "just" a name for the direction everything falls.
Why do things fall? What happened to "a body at rest stays at rest"?
So they can learn to pick themselves up?
If no net forces are applied to that body. That's what.
I think you may have taken me too seriously, but if so that's a very dismissive response. I think your reply would be improved by describing at least one (nigh-universal, so it applies to "things" in general) force and saying why it exists.
There’s a wonderful video fragment where a journalist asks Richard Feynman, the Great Explainer, why magnets attract or repel each other. It goes on a tangent about how a minimum baseline of knowledge is required for any answer to the question “why”, to basically end with “it’s electromagnetism”.
It's been posted as a link in this comment thread, actually. He kinda just skates around the question. Lol
Feynman moment.
Tide goes in, tide goes out. Never a miscommunication. You can't explain that. You can't explain why the tide goes in.
came here to post this hahaha. I still use "X does this, Y does that -- You can't explain that." sometimes. Just something about the hubris of ending it with pointing at the person and saying you can't explain that, I love it just as much today: https://youtu.be/NUeybwTMeWo?t=11
It's a blast from the past. Seemed like it was the turning point in his career. Circling the drain so to speak.
Tide goes in, wash cycle begins, wash cycle ends, dirty water drains out.
Yes I can. Tide goes in because tide goes out.
Yeah ok mr smart guy, if that's why the tide goes in, then explain to me why tide go out, if you even can
Because it wants to meet friends.
Holy shit something just clicked for me!
"Ice is slippery, because water expands when it freezes" -->so when compressed it...
Granted it's not really something I thought of on that level being from the equator.
Compression of any kind creates heat. In the case of ice, if the surface temperature is warm enough, the heat caused by compression is enough to melt it. Not all of it, but a thin layer at the top so you slip and fall on your ass.
While that may contribute to the slipperiness of ice in certain circumstances, we know that ice is still slippery even when the compressive force is unable to melt the ice, even a thin layer. For example, we've studied ice at temperatures and pressures where liquid water doesn't form.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20zyW0qoSTE
I don't remember the details exactly, but in the (most common) crystalline arrangements of H20, at the surface/edge of ice the individual molecules don't have all their crystalline "partners", so they can still shift around to varying degrees, which makes ice slippery even when none of it can / does melt--all of the molecules are part of at least one crystal.
It doesn't create heat, it compresses it.
Tbf, any compression heats. Even with heat pipes.
This video was the first thing that popped into my head after reading the headline. I wonder if he saw it once and just internalised "nobody understands it".
I read another comment that makes sense. When he says nobody knows he truly believes if he doesn't know it then no one does.
Yeah, that's the narcissistic personality disorder talking.
The paper company? Or the knifey-fingers guy with the fingerprint for a face?
Limitless paper, for a paperless world.
Imagine the disconnect between thinking he's the smartest person in the world and the cold, hard fact that just about everyone in the world knows a lot more than he does. Maybe that explains some of the endless rage. Well, that and being fat, ugly and having a small penis (none of which would be all that significant to a well-adjusted person).
I know what a magnet is. I even know how a magnet works! And it's not magic!
Fucking magnets, how do they work? And I don't wanna talk to a scientist Y'all motherfuckers lying, and getting me pissed.
I know what one is, but I don't know how they work.
Magnetism. 😌
I know how the economy works! (Economics)
This is a better answer than any other I've ever gotten.
Now I just would like science to further explain how the electromagnetic force in general actually works.
"Electricity works because yadda yadda yadda."
"Ok but why does it yadda yadda yadda?"
"I 'unno 🤷♂️"
I thought you might want to know, I shared a screenshot of your previous response with someone and they said that you are consistently able to be hilarious.
If I didnt have crippling social anxiety I could probably make it as a stand up comic. People probably won't find a dude coming on stage, freezing up and then puking on the front row very funny. 😔
Maybe you're just doing stand-up for the wrong crowds.
I would go see that. From the balcony.
Comedy could use a GWAR style act.
A magnet works because all the atoms inside the metal(Iron, nickel, cobalt) are lined up facing the same way so their tiny magnetic forces all work together.
I know that, but that's a very unsatisfactory explanation!
Still, I do appreciate the response.
"There's a lot of tiny magnets inside" is no explanation at all!
Every electron acts like a tiny magnet due to a property called spin(A science word, not actually spinning), and also because it moves around the atom’s nucleus. In most materials, all those little magnetic moments point in random directions, so they cancel each other out.
In metals like iron, cobalt, and nickel, the situation’s different. The electrons interact through what’s called the exchange interaction, which basically makes it more stable for neighbouring spins to line up the same way. When enough of these spins align, they form regions called magnetic domains. Each domain is like a tiny magnet.
In an unmagnetized piece of metal, those domains point every which way, so the fields cancel. When you magnetise it, the domains start lining up, and their combined fields create one strong magnetic field that extends outside the metal.
Sorry, but "theres a lot of tiny magnets inside" is pretty much it. Every charged particle in motion creates a magnetic field. Moving electric charge = magnetic field. So if something contains moving electrons, and every atom does, then at the microscopic level, there’s always some magnetic field being created.
No one does.
I just watched the Magic School Bus (Rides Again) episode that explains magnets this past weekend.
Worth it, by the way. That series still has a way of making some things seems so simple.
Next thing you know, we have the first Juggalo president.
i think having a juggalo president would be a step up from what we have now.
I would trust an impoverished juggalo with the concept of family over the current situation.
I'd trust a rabid weasel who communicates with a speak & spell more than the current situation.
So you support Vance?
"Divert all subsidies from corn to Faygo."
"Yes sir, whoop whoop."
You fucking wish
I must admit they did mellow quite a lot. I'd feel safer at a gathering of juggalos than at a republican convention.
Ah, a homestuck fan perhaps?
I learned that magnets don't work when wet 🤷♂️🤦♂️
Maybe if you powdered the magnet first.
Mmmmm, powdered magnets...
"Fire, Water, Earth and Dirt
Fucking Magnets, how do they work"
"And I don't wanna talk to a scientist. Motherfuckers lying, and getting me pissed."
If only there was some way to check if they are lying.
wait til he finds out about torrent magnet links
We can’t be starting headlines like that without considering the emotional roller coaster involved.
Im glad I wasn't the only one to be let down by the third word in that headline.
Ignorant and racist.
I don't think I've ever seen a group of voters vote in someone so much like themselves.
You forgot the pedophile part. It's now pretty much confirmed.
Confirmed...Did I miss an update?
Parts of the Epstein files leaked.
He's spent too much time on 4chan
Magnets, how do they work??
Funny that people pick this specific statement out of a long and aimless rambling. This specific statement isnt even that wrong depending on its interpretation. Isnt it more important to note that he confidently rambles like a senile lunatic?
Magnets are a really useful thing, particularly in compasses, which allow you to find your way to Epstien Island.
I once said "Some people living in 2025 aren't very far advanced from people who lived in the Dark Ages" (or Middle Age, whatever). Then somebody replied "... but they are wearing nice suits!". That's about the difference. The layer of modern civilization is thin.
Wikipedia has some interesting parts about it as well:
Doesn't seem so far away now does it.
Veritasium has a nice video about how magnetism is caused by special relativity and electric force
The only problem is that any answer can be followed up with “But why does x do/cause that?”, and any answer to that can in turn be followed by the same question.
People accept, the classical explanation, that mass attracts mass so gravity “makes sense”, but when it comes to magnets the explanation isn’t so natural-feeling so most want, or at least feel that there is, more of an explanation.
And when the only further explanation left is that it works that way because it does, people feel like the phenomena has gone unanswered.
I'd say that reality exists because people have a desire to perceive the world around them. I.e. if people didn't care, never opened their eyes, reality wouldn't exist to them. Sometimes they would randomly get hit by a bus, but they would ignore that.
Reality only exists because people have a conscious mind that makes them perceive reality. As such, that necessitates that reality is guided by some principles, because even if reality had no principles, that in itself would be a principle. So, the exact way that electromagnetism works is only a detail, but that there are forces to begin with is solely dependent on your conscious choice to even look at the world around you.
Mag-what nows?
I want to know what causes MAGAs, so that we can treat, or at least prevent them.
If you're gonna post paywalls, at least quote the good parts. Y'all think we can afford to pay for news in this economy?!
RIP ASS DON
Most of Trump's sentences resemble the Monte Carlo generated texts of oldie times. Remember the ones where it seemed like someone having an aneurysm is talking? Those ones.
Could magnets be the dark(er?) gipper's jelly beans?
I tried dipping my electromagnet in water and Trump was right! It lost it's magnetism!
Well, maybe he just watched the Richard Feynman video shoot magnets?
It kinda just sounded like he was saying most people don’t know all the actual things magnets are used for.
Poorly worded, sure. That’s my takeaway
That's exactly what it is. Could've been stated a little more clearly but this is a completely coherent statement. The man does a dozen deplorable things a day, are we really that starved for headlines that this is what we're reporting on?
Almost convinced that his administration is paying for these articles so people will look at them and complaints about the Epstein files as equally valid.
"Coherent" is not the word i would use.
Is there a specific reason why, or just.. Trump bad?
Again, don't get me wrong, Trump bad, but we gotta have standards.
Because it has to be deciphered like a secret code to be understood.
We've gotten normalized to how he rambles and meanders around subjects but his speech is far from coherent, imo.
It does not have to be "deciphered". C'mon, now. It might seem kinda strange when it's written out, but this is a completely normal sentence to say. The only way I can see this being misconstrued in good faith is maybe if English wasn't someone's first language, but if literally anyone besides Trump said this it wouldn't even raise an eyebrow, let alone be headline worthy.
When stick hit head head hurt. Big stick hit hard head hurt more. Coherent.
Just commented, China's curtailing or completely blocking rare earth exports. Somebody told Trump how vital those minerals are to industry. Trump thinks American can spin our own rare earth mining (?) in 2-years, but acknowledges Xi is holding the cards so he's begging and threatening him over exports.
All Trump can really parse is, "Magnets vital, China screwing us." He's trying to spit out his understanding of the importance of magnets. Of course he's the smartest guy in the room, "Nobody knows what magnets are (how vital they are across industries)."
It's a dementia addled clusterfuck, but at least this time I can see where he's going and why. Also explains his otherwise nonsensical rant to the Navy on replacing aircraft and ordnance lifters with steam power. I was wrong on his reasoning, now I see it. But fuck me, no one should have to take weeks to decode his dementia.
The water and magnets comment was about electromagnets, too. He was completely wrong about the reliability of elevators on aircraft carriers, but he wasn't saying permanent magnets can't get wet.
OK, but you can still get electromagnets wet?
No you can't, they'll multiply. And if you feed them after midnight, they get voiced by Frank Welker instead of Howie Mandel.
He didn't really say nobody knows what a magnet is in a literal sense, I think it was just his weird way of talking. When criticing trump lets be a little careful since its important to get it right otherwise noone will believe our other critics.
they lie a thousand times a day and everyone believes them. We misquote one of them once and we're liars to never be trusted. Interesting how that works.
A fair point but thats the world we live in. When our opponents abandon truth we have to cherish it more so that we are trusted
That is the world you live in because people like you make it that way by thinking that the us is a land where trust is worth anything politically.
We also have to refuse to accept that there's an impossible rule for us (that they impose), and no rule for them.
Don't know why you're being downvoted for pointing out that the shit reality we live in is shit.
It really does sound like he genuinely doesn't know what magnets are. What is water got to do with magnets?
Guess there is a reason why they do those dementia tests so often...
I guess if they're electromagnets water could do some damage, but not to the magnet itself.
I'll have to introduce the US navy to concept of waterproofing
He absolutely said nobody knows how magnets work. Sit down.
Well yes, but he meant that he really likes underaged girls.
Dominance and degredation are always in the subtext with Mango Mussolini.
And by "likes," mean means "wants to rape and hurt."
Did you just time travel here from 2016?
You presume to understand the speakers intention. The speaker is an illiterate trust fund baby child rapist. He literally does not know how magnets work and he believes he is the smartest person on the planet, therefore he thinks no one knows how they work. There is no depth to the logic.
The Commander in Chief is spewing senile word salad daily now, I think there is value in highlighting as much of it as possible. He is stupid people's idea of a smart person, and the more exposed he is as an actual idiot, the more people are exposed to his brain leaking out his ear, the more might have a chance of waking the fuck up.
I like him cause he says what he thinks
So Satan is pretty famous for saying what he thinks, you a big fan of Satan?
Who isn’t? Satan is the good guy in the Bible.
Pretty sure he's the bad guy, I think if you're going for a broader interpretation then it's more accurate to say that God is also the bad guy.
Except he directly said just that.
Generally I agree that often he'll make some flub and a bigger deal is made of it. Like with the 'Miracle Mile' vs. 'Maginficent Mile' thing, he said the wrong thing but that's the least of the problems with that story and a fairly mundane and understandable mistake to make.
This time the statement is exactly as said, though real world consequences for it are similarly low.
You're right! He said that the magnets are new thing and he personally doesn't know how they work. It's so much better, it almost makes perfect sense, very smart president, bigly smart.
No, he very literally said "nobody knows what a magnet is"
The administration is exhausting us by giving us unimportant things to fight about, such as obvious hypocrisy. We get rabid and pour ourselves into making him look stupid and he doesn't care because it only cost him a few seconds of time, whereas his citizens spent millions of man-hours shouting at him. At the end of the day we're tired of fighting, and he's still writing executive orders to pillage our country. It's deliberate.
Every time you're tempted to say, "he's a hypocrite!" just scroll past it and save your energy for the fight that matters.
Dude, Trump quite literally described metal letters on the wall as "Entirely Bronze, carved, and entirely Brass" in the same fucking sentence.
No this is not just his weird way of talking, he's an addled old man that should have died 10 years ago.
I agree with your sentiment, but maybe we're way past people not believing that trump is a lunatic...