Disney Plus Subscribers Quit in Droves Over Jimmy Kimmel Axe
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Nothing in the article mentions how many people actually unsubbed...
DROVES
Damn American units
It's the car culture I tell ya
Best steer clear of that
It's the cowboy culture I tell ya
Best ride clear of that
You are driving your point home there.
It's not that bad. But, really quick, how many droves in a fuckton?
Anything but metric
More than a handful, less then a metric fuckton.
THERE ARE DOZENS OF US
Are those biblical droves or Roman droves?
Are those doves that drive?
Only Disney has those numbers, and releasing them would tank the stock that's already dipping.
There is zero reason for them to admit what is happening.
Also of note, trump is pushing for it to go from quarterly to (I think) annual reports, so companies will be able to hide this stuff for longer, the whole time doing insider trading.
Because Newsweek is a rag. If they reported that the sky was blue, I'd go outside and check myself
It's because nobody but Disney has that data, and they stopped sharing sub numbers because it fucks with stock price too much.
Talkin out their ass seems to be Newsweek's brand identity these days.
thier stocks did drop 7%.
We'll never know exactly how many. I suppose there's a way for outsiders to estimate it, but that won't happen for weeks or months. Disney certainly won't tell the truth over this.
Oh, actually, I think the subscription numbers are reported to shareholders quarterly, so maybe we'll see something by the end of the year. It's not required, they could just not report it, or they might do some creative accounting to hide the actual numbers, so it's still not reliable, imo.
I guess we'll see the numbers in quarterly reports. If they release them, as the orange cunt babbled something about not needing those from companies recently.
There's a guy in the comments who posted a picture of an unsubscribe email.
So... at least one person.
Of course not. This article was written using vibes.
It's vibe reporting.
How do you propose a journalist reveal numbers only Disney has access to?
How many people unsubbed isnt the point. The point is that you clicked. They did the same bait articles when Disney fired Gina Carano, and "the right" were all saying they were cancelling disney plus. I look around at the comments, and they are all pretty much the exact same. Just the political leanings have switched. Its both hilarious and incredibly sad at the same time.
Wow someone had a hard-on for Gina
Muscle mommy? Yeah, a little bit... Kinda fat now though... lol I wonder what Ill get down votes for on this comment... lol.
I thought she was hot before I realized she was a nazi
Let me guess without opening: it is based twitter screenshots are quotes from users who are supposedly cancelled their subscription
But people are talking about it on Twitter, and what happens on Twitter is more real than reality itself!
If you're boycotting, here you go. Ahoy!
I think this chart might be a bit dated, I'm fairly certain Disney has taken full control of Hulu, not 67%
You only need 51% for "full control."
Their point is Disney owns 100% as of 2023
Got it, boycott half episodes
Nah. Gotta watch only odd episodes
At some point one can reduce consumption to 'Previously on the show...' and 'Watch next...' bits before and after an episode.
Nah, just watch them through YouTube shorts in a random order, that's how I watch movies now.
I wouldnt say Im even trying to boycott, but I could care less about literally everything under that umbrella except for Pixar, and I havent seen a new Pixar movie in probably 10 or more years.
What the fuck does Winnie the Pooh Workbook even mean?
You mean you couldn't care less.
I mean, I think it's possible for them to care less
Then they must care a decent amount.
while ($care < 0) {$care--}
maybe the integer will wrap around to max int and stop
Kids IPs make bank.
Winnie the Pooh is not a Disney creation. They had exclusive rights to it between 1953 and 2021.
Still do if it's the Disney design, which is the one everyone recognizes.
You could care less? You mean, you care, possibly a lot?
Studios should not own TV channels.
I went to look at the 538 Trump opinion polls to compare to his first term, then I remembered ABC bought and destroyed 538.
Nate Silver has been shitty for a long time though too. I used to get his newsletters and you could watch the digression.
He’s kind of an ass but someone I always found credible.
Though after the 2016 election when he got more annoying.
His numbers are maybe good, don't know since I haven't really kept up with him. His opinions are definitely shit.
I was surprised to see Fox, looked into it on Wikipedia, and now I'm even more confused between Fox Entertainment, Fox Corporation, 21st Century Fox, Fox News [Channel], …
i always look at these seriously and then realize i havent subbed to a single one ever
Lol me either. Their services are not nearly as good as the unauthorized streaming sites.
https://www.cartoonbrew.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/everythingdisneyowns_b.jpg
(As of 2019)
I'll miss Kermit, but I was already skipping most of that.
The only reason I've never canceled is because I've never subscribed.
But I wish I had something to cancel in protest of the egregious 1st amendment violations.
Track down the advertisers on your local ABC affiliate stations and cancel them!
I also don't subscribe, but have paid to watch the occasional Marvel movie. I'm happy to pass on whatever they've got lined up next if it gets them to take their role in fostering free speech more seriously.
Would signing up for the free trial and then instantly canceling it count?
yep. not gonna subsidize them caving to fascism.
"Freedom of speech for me, not for thee"
Oh no, people are ditching the overpriced streaming service?
Disney when they see people cancelling their subscriptions.
It used to be that you didn't fuck with the Mouse. Trump's admin has shown that they're actually a paper tiger and have no bite.
FAMILY guy has always parodied the mouse as an evil entity.
I guess Disney is done for noway they will survive this fallout.
I saw this suggestion on the site that shall not be named.
Find a Nexstar or Sinclair owned channel, note the advertisers in there, and start shaming them for paying money to advertise on those networks. Literally 50% of their revenue comes from ads so gutting that would make a difference
Here's Sinclair: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_stations_owned_or_operated_by_Sinclair_Broadcast_Group
Here's Nexstar: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assets_owned_by_Nexstar_Media_Group
Edit: *David Smith, son of the founder and currently CEO of Sinclair, has a hilarious entry-
Aaaaand not so funny-
Yeah, pressure at all levels.
You can also look at a local station's website and see advertising partners. Not the little fish that buy 1-2 ads a year for a local business, the ones that get their ads ran the most and in the best timeslots.
That's where pressure is best applied on affiliates
That’s sick. Much easier to do and much easier to scrape and compile.
"The site that shall not be named"
... Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down? (/j)
I assume Facebook. We all realised after that that social media was an evil business.
It was Reddit
Impossible. People name and complain about Reddit all the time. It's like everyone on Lemmy's bitch ex.
Possibly this post by Dan Satterfield? Web snapshots are easy, folks: hardly an excuse to omit sources.
Thanks for the reminder!
"come back and cancel anytime"
What the fuck is that wording?
Hulu, is everything OK at home?
It's very awkward. I think they mean you can stop the intent to cancel, so cancel the cancellation.
It was oddly easy. Click the cancel button and that was it. No "are you sure" BS. Not like SiriusXM, whom I'm also boycotting for being shit.
After careful consideration, I think their intent was to say....
You can come back anytime and if you do, you can always cancel at anytime.
.... More or Less. Basically saying you can join and cancel at your leisure.
That's a terrible way to say it, but ok.
Maybe I’m just cynical, but I feel like everyone cancelling is going to forget about this in a few months when the news cycle moves on and a new Star Wars show comes out or something.
Has a disorganized boycott like this ever worked? (honest question)
I agree and I thought more people would be frustrated enough to leave Reddit. But there are enough of us here now that there is an alternative to Reddit that is viable. Hopefully that becomes common knowledge and they realize leaving Reddit doesn’t mean not having a community, so they feel encouraged to switch.
I second this. From experience, I noticed more hyper local subs on Reddit are very active, but the more larger general subs seem to endlessly repost old content or share exaggerated titles/content. I do wish there were more of a local presence on Lemmy, not everyone wants to go to Reddit or Facebook Groups for that.
Lemmy does need to grow past everyone browsing on “all” (which I do) and then getting outraged for no reason that there’s a woman-only sub. Yes, we need specialist communities that aren’t for everyone too.
For what its worth, I am not browsing "all". I have two communities in bookmarks and I come and check what was posted in those.
I was pretty late to come to Lemmy though...
What are the two communities?
I only ask out of general interest as its such a specific number, if you're not comfortable sharing, don't feel obliged.
This one and /c/pixeldungeon
I have been playing that game for sooo long.
In fact, its author ditching Reddit for Lemmy is the main reason I am here.
Yeah I wish only for a few things that need a bigger base, sub for my city on Reddit was so helpful, and I miss Normal Nudes and Naked Progress, the NSFW stuff on Lemmy is more onlyfans girls & AI stuff, Reddit had such a massive reach they had everything, more people means more niche stuff.
Overall though? So much nicer here. And I am not sure you can have both, it's probably nicer because it's smaller.
Reddit is a wasteland where every informative post is now marked as DELETED by those of us who torched our donated content as we left. It's full of garbage posts now, and mods who don't care.
Do they still manage to attract ad revenue, sure, so does X after Musk turned it into a fascist turd bath. Is it as valuable as it used to be? Not by a longshot.
A big plus is that I can actually interact with people here in a usually lighthearted manner. You can still find that on Reddit, but it is extremely hard to do now unless you have some extremely niche interests.
Reddit had no monetary cost.
It's much easier to stick to a boycott when it requires a layer of active acceptance and payment to acquiesce.
Reddit is just... there. A query on basically any search engine is going to serve you up reddit links, and clicking one of them costs you nothing.* Since you don't have to commit to the decision there's far less resistance to backsliding.
*Yes, I know, there is a privacy and personal content/traffic cost. We both know that's not what I'm talking about.
For me, it’s not about boycott to affect. I just don’t want to give my money to what I do not believe. It’s a personal choice, I can’t control anything, I am just trying to live my life. This is a small thing I can control.
It’s like why delete my Reddit account to be here.
Ye I don't want my money to support fascism, simple as that.
I ended up being a bit of a hypocrite by not cancelling Hulu when Disney bought them. I gave money to Big Mouse. Not anymore.
The very personal and highly disorganized boycott of American goods and services by Canadians is definitely having an effect on several sectors including tourism, alcohol, and media.
Tourism alone has resulted in a loss of about 30 BILLION.
Because the regime and his sycophantic cunts are fucked and can suck our collective dick.
fam in vegas is looking to move because the writing is on the wall. foreigners coming to gamble in this shit? yeah let's go to munich 1940 for a happy time. :|
Target was affected by boycotts in a way that other retailers are definitely aware of.
Target definitely took a hit, but I think that actually proves the point of the question. The backlash was loud and visible, but do we know that shoppers haven’t already returned to normal now that it’s out of the current news cycle?
Target stock is down but it is hard to tell. There have been some mismanaged Target stores in my general area that have closed, but there are also many that seem to be run well and are always full of people. You can compare it to Walmart but I don't think it is a 1:1 comparison since most Walmart locations are also full blown grocery stores and they typically have more locations in suburb/exurb/rural areas that have fewer shopping options.
My local Target has a serious Kmart-at-the-bitter-end vibe going. Lots of empty shelves, stuff sloppily displayed, sullen and unhelpful workers etc. etc. Everything in the grocery section is way more expensive than it is at local grocery stores. I just don't get why anybody shops there. I only go there because I'm a school bus driver and a good chunk of the tips I get from parents are in the form of Target gift cards. But all I can find worth buying is cheap bicycle gear.
Yeah man, otherwise we wouldn't be participating in this conversation right?
Yes. Boycotts don't need to be organized to be effective. Some (def not all, and not usually Disney for that matter) to listen to fan and customer feedback.
Companies track their income trends extremely closely. Even a blip of 1% will be reported on in every shareholder meeting and need to be explained.
Depends on your expectations.
Will they say f'it and bring Kimmel back in the face of the government shutting them down?
No
Will they consider a 10% loss, even if ephemeral, in their next action? Sure. But they've already made this calculation, they already knew what was on the line and they weighed it against what the administration was going to do for/against them and it made financial sense.
I'm down to bash big corp as much as the next person, but this is a failure of the people in letting the government do whatever they want. If the people aren't going to stand against the government, why do we expect the corporations to?
Apparently they didn't. Top executives are both pissed at Bob Iger and scrambling to figure out how to right the ship.
If they cancel Disney the same way they cancel amazon, this is gonna be huge(ly disappointing)
Cancel but setup stremio + alldebrid at the same time.
No, these boycotts have never worked.
Who on the left is praising it? Is this deliberate bullshit by Newsweek, or just careless copyediting?
If I could download a car, you bet your ass I would!
I'd even make copies of that car for all my friends, just like I do now.
And I'd help you make copies!
Hello, it's me, your friend.
You get a car, you get a car...I have so many new friends.
I believe someone downloaded all the the part's files and 3D printed one.
Oh fuck yes I would.
Yes, yes I would.
I've already started my journey to replace all streaming services with jellyfin anyway so i will be cancelling mine too.
This jimmy kimmel business just sweetens the deal.
got an old raspberry pi set up as a jump box with a tailscale vpn so i can remotely power up my pc from anywhere and watch anything i have downloaded. Just need to get a dedicated server and storage, either nas or internal in a larger tower. But for now its working really well.
Don't forget, Hulu is owned by Disney too. Honestly, I'm done with video streaming at least for a while. I never have time anymore to watch anything so it's just a money suck and physical media is better anyway.
A VPN is cheaper and multi-purpose! :)
Maybe something's going over my head but my understanding is a VPN can get you around region locks but you still have to pay for the streaming service to access it.
Unless you're talking about using a VPN to pirate, which I've definitely done without a VPN, albeit a long time ago.
Much safer over a VPN. Not foolproof though; be sure to read up on whatever you’re doing for whatever reason you’re doing it.
Bbc iplayer has an insane amount of stuff, not just bbc original productions.
CBC Gem has a ton of awesome stuff, and is worth it for Schitt's Creek alone. Free with ads too (may not be the case outside Canada though)
There’s one service still putting out quality content but low overall volume, but mentioning their name on Lemmy is a risky bet. Anyway, piracy is free and can be set up for convenience too.
Edit: it's Apple TV+ that has the best selection of originals IMO. Their volume of content is lower than the big boys though, they don't license 3rd party content. And you can expect to see everyone using Apple devices in shows with a modern setting, way too obvious product placement.
Dropout?
Check the edit
I would like know please
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Mention the name, coward
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I would very much so like to know, please
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Drop me a PM with the name please
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Guys I'm depressed, and no I don't and to talk about it
I love the stuff on Apple+ especially the sci-fi stuff…. But I’m still going to sail the 🏴☠️
Mostly because of this
Yeah, corpos gonna corpo :/
It's somewhat sad because he's gay and hopefully knows very well he could be next on the chopping block after trans people if he speaks out against the dictator. Still kisses the ring.
Yeah, I really expected more from Tim. Very disappointing.
I cancelled my disney+ because of this.
I'm all for Disney getting the cancellations they deserve, but articles like this one are entirely sensationalist. No one can know the real numbers of cancellations unless Disney announces them, which will never happen.
Quarterly earnings...
https://thewaltdisneycompany.com/the-walt-disney-company-reports-third-quarter-and-nine-months-earnings-for-fiscal-2025/
But internally they monitor this metric on a day-to-day metric, people are absolutely losing their shit over the cancellation at Disney.
Oh shit, and the current fiscal quarter ends in like a week, so we should hear about the numbers near the first week of November.
Probably not. Disney has previously announced that they're gonna stop reporting subscriber numbers in 10Ks and annual reports.
It looks like they did announce that a month or two ago, but they also said that the new policy wouldn't apply to Disney+ & hulu until 2026. Espn+ numbers though won't be reported for Q4 this year.
Then again, it looks like the cancellations aren't immediate; they are still subscribers until the end of the billing period/month, so it may not affect the total subscriber count too much.
The fact the cancellation page has been seen crashing multiple times, and that so many people are actively posting screenshots of their cancellation does lend credibility to the fact that it's still happening on a large scale, though.
That's standard business practice for every subscription service. "Oh, hey, sorry. Your attempt to stop paying us money isn't working right now. Try again later."
Amazon had a process notoriously called “The Iliad” where it was a literal journey to unsubscribe from Prime.
Newsweek is shit. most of their articles are just left wing hopium with no substance whatsoever.
Kind of like the inventor of bitcoin they found?
Australian Faketoshi?
Be aware: Newsweek has a history of posting stories that placate and reassure the non-MAGA crowd. I don't 100% trust their intentions as an organization. Kamala Harris was definitely going to win according to Newsweek, the week before the election.
In addition to cancelling, which is the MOST important thing:
What about uninstalling their apps?
App providers can see the number of installations on the different platforms (Apple, Roku, Android, etc). That count falling will further raise their disquiet. Leaving an app installed or continuing to use the service before the cancellation is processed could send an unintentional message that maybe this is all just temporary and we'll come back in a couple of weeks after the news cycle plays out.
Already done. I like Star Wars, but oh the fuck well.
Yarr? 🏴☠️
No, she's a Star Trek character.
Plenty of wretched hives of scum and villainy to get your Star Wars fix.
I got Disney with a telecom package. Then they added a surcharge because Disney raised their price. I cancelled my plan and got the bare bones fiber+mobile plan, got a parrot, grew a beard, cut one of my legs, one of my hands, and got a peg leg and a hook. Best decision.
You should be able to stream it for free here: https://hydrahd.io/
Same. Lots of people like Star Wars. That means there are plenty of Torrents to choose from. I unsubbed a while back and it's really no problem.
I recommend setting up Sonarr and Plex or Jellyfin for fully automated copyright infringement. It's like having a free streaming service that has everything you want to watch as soon as it releases.
Me too, but they're all on my Plex server for all my homies to see.
This is the way
This is the way.
Yeah, and even if you did just get it by other means.
I'd quit too, but I never had it to begin with lol
I had an account from when it was free with my phone plan 4 years ago. Jumped through all the hoops to delete it.
You should quit anyway. Just a thought.
Good for you Americans. Don't reactivate even if Kimmel comes back!
Surely resubscribing if they reverse their decision is the strongest signal to go woke or go broke. That there's money in allowing criticism of president, that can go away again if they engage with government censorship in America (of all places) again.
Clickbait. Friggin article never mentions what"droves" means. I was hoping to find out 1 million people cancelled or something, but it just mentioned a few specific people.
Also, they didn't mention me. :(
How exactly do you propose a reporter determine the number of cancellations?
If said reporter can't present quantifiable data/evidence, then maybe they shouldn't write the article?
I guess, but inflammatory and sensationalist headlines have always existed.
Oh, so it's ok.
When did I say it's okay? I just said this is nothing new, it's not an anomaly. You should be outraged, but don't act like a for-profit company isn't going to chase profit incentives, and if they are incentivized to sensationalize, they're going to sensationalize. If they end up making more money from an outright lie after any litigation, they'll tell a lie.
Ok. Must have mistaken your motivation for the post.
Unlike a professor who would reject a student's unsubstantiated claims, a for-profit entity won't care about evidence unless its absence hurts profits. And you can say that about nearly any commercial news or journalistic organization. Establishing an equitable and high standard of education is the only true way to combat this, and that's not happening in our lifetime
Do you actually expect journalists to have any integrity these days?
Could start by at least listing Professorozone in the canceled subscriptions.
The same way they determine droves.
Yes, this put me over the edge. I now have zero streaming services for American shows.
Netflix is the only one I have left now, and that's only because I share the account with multiple people, so it's more like 1/4 of a subscription. If I cancelled they would end up with more subscribers.
Wish Netflix still mailed DVDs, be nice to have another way to fill in the gaps.
Need to look at what DVDs the library carries...
Look to the Starrs, my frirnd
I still have Apple TV and Crunchy Roll... Should Apple be cancelled for this?
Canceled that one back when they fired Jon Stewart because he wanted to report on China and Israel
I did
I think Marvel and star wars addicts might find it hard to cancel thier subscriptions, they are so obsessed with these franchised.
Disney is partially responsible for thier consequences, since they donate heavily to the GOP, we know they sustain the gop in FLORIDA, so it is likely they donate to gop national campaigns too.
I wrote to them and told them that ABC has been my news supplier for decades, but now I'll be switching to NBC. I'll also be cancelling my HULU sub.
As for their broadcast content, I told them that I will either pirate it, or watch it in TIVO, and skip the ads. That's what really hurts them.
All media companies do not serve entertainment as their core business. They are literally nothing more than advertising platforms. That's where 100% of their revenues comes from. The entertainment is just bait, to make us sit on our couch, and hopefully be too lazy too move our fat asses when the ads come on.
So threatening to consume their expensive bait without consuming their revenue-producing ads, really hurts.
I don't even watch Kimmel but the mouse is out
Yeah, I don't watch him often, and when I do, I'm not a fan. But I'll absolutely do whatever I can to express how much I dislike him being cancelled.
A bigger deal to them is the theme parks and cruises.
Not only are those big money makers, they're also easier for news crews to see and report on.
If I was a subscriber, I’d quit. But I’m a pirate instead. Fuck all of ‘em.
HBO Max or whatever it's called. Hulu and ESPN.
The only language they speak is money. So give them a taste of speaking with money.
What's the connection with HBO Max? I thought Disney wasn't connected there.
I don't think they are. By the simple fact DC comics is held with HBO and Marvel with Disney
Hbo is Warner brothers. Which is owned by.... the Comcast corporation ultimately? Iirc. Though I'm not 100% on that. And do not feel like looking it up.
Currently the ultimate parent co.pany is Warner Bros. Discovery, Inc. NBCUniversal is the one owned by Comcast, as I recall.
Ah okay. Mixed that up. Thanks for the correction!
Disney doesn't own HBO
Why do they bundle with HBO?
I'm assuming there's some benefit to Disney
I hope they lose everything, and their CEO's have to log in to the internet from a well used and disrespected latrine.
It could cost Bob Iger (Disney CEO) his job. Eisner is already gunning for him again.
Next step: "It is un-American not to have Disney+ in your household. Only members of Antifa or trans people don't have Disney+. It will be mandatory for every patriotic God loving US citizen to have Disney+ in their home and on at least three hours per week. Anyone found not to be watching the party approved level of Disney programming will be taxed $21.99 per month and the proceeds put into a new 'Mickey Patriot Fund'."
The irony of Andor being on D+ is not lost on me.
'Tyranny requires constant effort. It breaks, it leaks. Authority is brittle.'
Nemik teaching us to chip away at the pillars which hold up fascism.
We cancelled ours.
Do we have any numbers?
Nope, just thoughts and prayers.
I’ve seen some behind the scenes numbers for a different streaming service when “people are canceling in droves”. For every article I saw, I never once saw a significant number of cancellations.
So, I would take these articles with a grain of salt
I did
Cancelled
I love this for Disney!
I was never a subscriber, and barely care about any of their products, anyway. If I never see another Disney-produced show again, I'll be just fine.
Fuck 'em.
Hopium. Not enough to matter
All efforts great and small.
Agreed. Something is better than nothing, and if enough people get on board, it might just be enough to make a difference.
Extending that, it's going to take a lot of people doing a lot of different things, from all angles, to ultimately succeed in quashing fascism again.
Well, let's get crackin' then! 👊
Examples of simple, non-aggressive things that anyone can do:
I didn't see any numbers in TFA. Do you have any numbers? I think we just don't know.
More than one drove. Upper bound is infinite droves.
A drove has at least 4 people in it so we can establish an upper bound of 2.4 billion droves.
I think your upper bound is too many droves, the limit is total Disney Plus subscribers.
Here is some potentially useful data: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1095372/disney-plus-number-of-subscribers-us/
To me it looks like their numbers may be trending down already so a boycott could be extra effective. If they have lots of customers already considering leaving then giving them an excuse like participating in a boycott in defense of free speech could help accelerate that trend and make a bigger impact.
Well yes, it's not a very tight upper bound, but I was bringing it down from infinity. I'm glad the scientific process is working and we're refining this (in droves) over time.
Given that each person can hold as many accounts as they like, the number of accounts that've closed is anywhere from 8.01 to (2.4billion-.25)*4infinity (because I had only one account). I can see why they’re panicking
I think we can speculate with a high degree of confidence that it won't influence their profit growth projections.
Now that quarterly reports are a thing of the past
I wouldn't be so sure about that, the Disney brand has taken a major hit here. I think it is still impossible to say what it is going to cost them but it will cost them, they certainly aren't making more money out of this. It is not a situation that makes the line go up, people are absolutely pissed at Disney.
The Disney brand has taken a huge hit because they fired Kimmel, a guy who’s rating were tanking? Lol
Disney made a business decision, and Kimmel approves of them doing that quickly and strongly.
Yes, they have. Being seen to capitulate on free speech has pissed a lot of people off. His ratings are irrelevant, people who hate Kimmel are pissed because it's not about him specifically.
Your image with the Kimmel quote is a different situation. Businesses are free to make business decisions, that is exactly the problem here. They were not free, and as Trump has reiterated, there's now a new censorship regime enforced by the FCC which is going to continue interfering in these businesses to silence critics.
ABC chose to cancel his show. Trump didn’t.
The FCC said they might investigate because there are laws around what can be shown/said on free to air broadcast television, and blatant lying and spreading misinformation for political reasons is, shockingly, not allowed.
It’s funny that the left are now cranky at Disney and trying to “cancel” them, thinking it will piss off the right, while the right has been vocally anti-Disney for years lol.
You seem to either be uninformed or not commenting in good faith. The FCC explicitly coerced Disney, Trump in his own words says they are going after these companies for being critical of him. Using the power of the state in this way is categorically different than social movements trying to "cancel" people.
I wouldn't hold my breath
I suspect the amount of money they'd need to lose before they change course is actually quite small.
Cowards will be cowards I say, but us simpletons don't understand the high stakes and day to day pressures of a modern multinational corporate conglomerate. They have profit margins, investor boards, and mergers to consider. Heavens! What good is free speech if they don't make more money this quarter than they made last quarter? Please, good people of the Fediverse, won't somebody think of the shareholders?
I find this trend to disregard every action as "not enough to matter" to be tiring.
Unless such a reply contains specific actions to take in place of what is reported, then I basically consider them propaganda for the existing powers to encourage further inaction.
The specific action is to stop pretending such articles are anything more than progressive click bait.
God damn it, I JUST renewed my sub for a whole year............
See also: setup a public wifi share box to help your neighbors scale back on subscriptions
I can’t unsubscribe, but you bet I can avoid every one of Marvel’s Phase 6 movies next year in protest.
There's nothing like getting stroked by the invisible hand of the free market.
Never much liked Jimmy Kimmel but he earned some brownie points here haha. Not sure any of this counts for a lot, the "droves" number seems to a few twitter accounts that said they cancelled and one that said the website was slow when they tried to do it.
Good!
Hey, did you guys all get the invitation to see the inside of a people powered Disney world heating system?
I heard that it was just a big box with steam tubes running on the top. You just need to people to power it. They call it the Great Accessible Steam Chamber!
Can't wait to see you all there with me powering the world!
They want to listen to MAGAts. Now they get to listen to us.
The right, who have been anti-Disney for years because of them constantly forcing their ideologies and political preference into everything, watching the left, who are the biggest benefactors of Disney’s propaganda and ideologies, now attempt to destroy Disney:
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Trying to explain to everyone at SAG-AFTRA that Disney executives are the real leftists.
But this does beg the question... Is Iron Man a Tankie?
I tell ya, its fucking hilarious seeing the right and left switching sides on this. Back when Gina Carano got fired, the right were all "Cancel disney plus!!!" and the left were like "Freedom of speech, not freedom from consequences!!!!". And now its the left crying about free speech, and the right circlejerking "consequences".
Humanity is fucked.
Gina got fired for something she did outside of her job. Jimmy got fired for doing the job he was hired to do, because a government official threatened his employer.
The first amendment is to protect against government censorship, it has no intention to protect you from public outcry. It should have protected Jimmy, but it's irrelevant in the case of Gina.
Gina got fired because she was pointing out that she was getting rape and death threats over not putting pro nouns in her bio. All that all twitter did was delete them. Carr made remarks, but he had no power to do anything. Thats why there is no legal document or order. Because it would be illegal. So the drawing of a conclusion here would be an error. There was no "threat". It would be like me threating you to stop posting here. I have no power to force that to happen. I can say it as much as I want, but who be right to just point and laugh at me.
In any case, it doesnt matter. Its all the same shit with the same arguments, and same "well actually, this is different because....". Gina was right to draw attention to her online attacks, and disney was right to be want to be associated with the way that she went about it, as I think we can all agree it was dumb as fuck to use Jewish people in the analogy. In any analogy in fact.
In the case of Kimmel, hes just not funny. And I wouldnt be surprised if this just all turned out to be just a way to get out of the late night talkshow game by ABC, without breaking any contracts.
Yeah imma stop you right there.
If that thought even so much as crossed Carr's mind, why would he make any remarks at all? It costs nothing to keep his mouth shut, and it avoids any liability.
Committing crimes and getting away with it is a virtue to conservatives. Why won't they create a paper trail of their crimes, man I wonder. Anyway, release the Epstein files.
Never said she was fired for pro nouns, mate. Said she was fired because she was highlighting the abuse she was getting on twitter, in really dumb way. The fact she was posting a lot of nonsense, had nothing to do with it.
Yep.
Is Gina Carano single? Asking for a friend.
So good, finnaly disney will have to drop their activist productions and start making great content again.
Funny, you guys didn’t want to boycott ABC when they fired conservatives for things they said off screen, in fact people like Kimmel celebrated it.
What’s changed?
Kimmel said nothing remotely celebratory. He literally condemned the violence and mildly suggested the right was using his death to score political points. (AKA the truth which you can't deny.)
Barr said "conservative" things? You mean absolutely vile racist shit? Yeah I guess that tracks. There's one little fucking difference though, the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT didn't call for her firing. ABC can fire whoever they want, but you have to be fucking blind to not see the government putting their hand on the scale here. That's blatantly unconstitutional.
Where did I say Barr said “conservative things”? You literally just made something up and then had a go at me for it lol
Kimmel flat out lied and said that the shooter of Charlie Kirk was “one of their own” in regards to “MAGA”. He said this to push his liberal leftist political ideology, to paint the shooter as a “MAGA”. We know with 100% certainty, and had known for a long time before Kimmel said this, that he was a leftist. His own parents told us this. His friends and colleagues said this. His trans furry boyfriend’s text conversations confirmed this (as if the existence of a trans furry boyfriend didn’t already confirm it lol).
Kimmel blatantly lied, on public tv, to push his political ideologies.
Kimmel said MAGA was desperate to prove the shooter wasn't one of them. That is literally true, they immediately started spinning stories before facts were known. At the time it was still unclear what was going on, which is probably why Kimmel didn't say the shooter was MAGA and only that MAGA was currently trying to prove he wasn't.
Also, in the US you are allowed to lie for political reasons all you want. Even if we assume that Kimmel somehow knew the motivation of the shooter and then lied about it, that doesn't change the fact that he has a right to freedom of speech.
Would it make sense for a MAGA supporter to assassinate one of the biggest MAGA proponents?
Also you’re getting what he said wrong. He said they’re desperately trying to prove it’s anyone but one of their own, implying that it is one of their own. When he said this we KNEW the shooter was a leftist - we had his parents confirming it, his friends, his colleagues, his chats, his trans furry boyfriend……
Freedom of speech means the government can’t prosecute you for what you say. How do you guys still not understand this? ABC are not the government. ABC fired him for what he said.
And no, you can’t just say whatever lies you want on tv - the FCC has rules around what can be said on free to air tv.
What vile thing did Jimmy Kimmel say? Please quote him accurately. And if the vile thing is just him quoting what Trump said, we shouldn't hold that against Kimmel.
Kimmel lied and intentionally spread misinformation for political purposes, on live tv.
Nothing to do with anything trump said. What are you even talking about?
I asked for a quote of a vile thing he said. Please quote it.
Blatant, outright lies and misinformation for political reasons.
Note I never said that he said anything “vile”. Kimmel faced consequences for lying.
That is an objective fact, not a lie.
Nope, it’s a lie because it’s implying that he was “MAGA” which we knew for fact at the time of Kimmels monologue was incorrect.
Your reading comprehension is not good. He didn't claim the guy was MAGA. He claimed the MAGA people were bending over backwards to claim he wasn't. Did that happen or not?
The Kimmel quote in your image says Barr saw consequences for saying something "vile." Kimmel would have to have said something vile for this to be hypocrisy. Not something true but uncomfortable.
Some people also have a lot of trouble understanding that Kimmel is a comedian.
But hey, if we're pulling things off the air for intentionally spreading misinformation for political purposes on live TV, then lets shut down Fox News, Newsmax, and OAN too.
Kimmel hasn’t been a comedian for a long time.
The paradox of tolerance. You're quoting an racist remark - there's no need to tolerate intolerance as the social contract is broken.
Of course you go straight to that trash. Liberals all over have been celebrating the political assassination of Charlie Kirk, so I guess the social contract is broken and now all liberals shouldn’t be tolerated?
Hey fellow Lemmy friends, here's a great chance to try out the block user functionality
It's an impressive feat to get -5000 reputation in only 4 months. Again, you gotta try to be this toxic and terminally online. Even AI can't pump out that much hate that fast.
How do you check your coolness points?
The guys crying about censorship, the tolerant left, now back to championing censorship in a thread complaining about what they consider censorship 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
So, if I click the block button (which, trust me, I plan on doing regardless of your answer), you think that it somehow prevents others from seeing you be this dumb?
If someone walks away from you in person after you tell them the dumbest thing they've heard all day, does that somehow mean they're censoring you?
Not tuning into Jimmy Kimmel is not censorship of Jimmy Kimmel. Blocking someone is choosing not to read what they wrote. You're really striking out here.
What did Roseanne say? I know what she said, I want to know if you know.
It doesn’t matter what she said, at all. ABC decided they didn’t like it and chose to fire her…….just like they did with Kimmel. Kimmel and the left celebrated her firing, as you can see in the picture, and now they’re crying that Kimmel got fired for arguably an even worse thing - flat out lying to the public on tv for political reasons.
Just to be clear, you're calling stating a fact equally as bad as calling someone the baby of the Muslim Brotherhood and Planet of the Apes, and demanding an equal response to both.
You're either disingenuous to the extreme or an idiot. There's literally not a third option.
Kimmel didn’t state a fact. Kimmel lied to spread his usual liberal propaganda bullshit.
Liberals celebrated ABC firing someone for what they said, now they’re crying and trying to “cancel” them. Typical flip flop leftist idiots.
Also this comes days after attacking the right for employing “cancel culture” to get people celebrating murder fired 🤣. Leftists love cancel culture, then they say it doesn’t exist, then they hate it, and now they’re right back to loving it again. Amazing.
Just to be clear - I’m not equating what anyone said. I’m simply pointing out that ABC fired someone for what they said, and leftists are showing their arses in how hypocritical they are.
I stopped reading here. No. You can infer whatever you want from someone's words, but you can't call someone a liar for something you think they implied.
Thanks for proving which you were. Goodbye.
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Did you not read the quotes from Kimmel in the picture in my comment that you replied to?